This Painting TOOL is a GAME CHANGER! (is this LEGAL?)
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Maybe before the wall is demolished you could do a “thank you” mural or something that the workers there will be able to see and appreciate….before they destroy it lol
With targets to aim for and Tetris blocks to knock out of the literal wall!
@@Kintayisme nice one dude
Great idea!
@@chillSKATE101 something they can read too 😁
Random but notice your pfp is Liverpool, YNWA
Bro "cheating" to remake what you have already made once is no cheating at all, so use whatever makes it easier for you to make those awesome artworks. We support you.
Also it will be nice to see all the creators to gather near those walls and give a farewell before they are demolished. If you are in contact with them, I hope you give it a try.
They’re very useful for commission pieces. First - time is money. Any time you can save is money in your pocket. Second - the customer has signed off on a specific design, and any variance they can use to justify not paying the full price.
Yeah, agree
I don't see a problem with Projector or grid or any other tools or tricks, as long as it leaves paint on the wall it's good
Free Hand is still the only way for Bombing as well, as it's the essence of graffiti, free hand drawings for everyone to see, lots of the times illegal that'll get you in trouble, and any little trouble you can have (setting up a damn projector (that emits SOUND AND/OR LIGHT) or doodle grid (lots of unneccesary trouble)) is *another step in jail room*
Bombing graffiti is also only way for absolute mastery of graffiti (cans, markers and sprayers), when you're able to make up on the spot a pleasing (for some) design, because you're forced to use your time well
artist should be free to use all the tools they can find. who cares about the "cheating" factor? seeing their creations on the wall is still stunning though.
Imagine a world full of tracers .... kind of takes away from those who are actually artists
@@eyewokeupinhell Imagine accountants not using Excel or database based applications, they will still be able to do the job, their efficiency will just be influenced. Do know that Technology is there to make lives easier by the means of tools or gadgets. Remember what he said... He wish to reduce time on his projects, thus using tools isn't wrong... it just makes his life easier.... AND remember it is still authentic/original as it still his drawing or painting.
@@eyewokeupinhell But they still had to have made the art itself prior to tracing, so in my mind they're no less an artist than any digital artist is.
I've been working with projectors for years. Avoid moving them when switched on and let the bulb cool down after using before you pack it away else you can blow the bulb and replacements aren't cheap. The Optomas are nice and bright for the price. As previously mentioned, a short throw projector may be a better option.
Is there a maximum time to work at once with a projector? A friend told me it could overheat. What is your experience with this?
@@Speedrock1987 Yes, they are prone to overheating. If you ceiling mount one make sure you dust and clean it regularly to keep the air flow going. Keep the vents clean and you should be okay. They do get hot but are designed to.
Edit: I've had projectors running for 14+ hours straight at a party/club, just make sure your laptop doesn't overheat! :) Change your filters too (at least take them out and clean) when prompted to by the device or by the manufacturers recommendations. They will normally issue a warning to clean after 100 hours or so of use.
Great advice!
@@TequilaDave Don't they work with LED's already these days?
@@dominus6695 You can get LED projectors but they are not as bright as DLP or LCD. The LED bulbs do last up to 20,000 hours as opposed to 2000-5000 so could be a good buy for low light use.
2:00 no. Proportions are always important, but graffiti letters, bugs, monsters, and spaeceships are so easy to paint, because most people are not experts in this stuff and so they can`t decide if it is good or bad. but if you are an expert in graffiti letters, like in portrait painting, crooked lines hurt the same way like two left eyes in one face.
hahahah i had the exact same tutorial of the doodle grid in my upcoming video. damn, we need to work on our communication.
ok and now my opinion about projectors: they are annoying. hahahaha - brilliant video. really good.
I knew you will say this! 🤣
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I’ve been using a projector for years, time is money! Most simply put, it all depends on What you project. If you are projecting and tracing your own work, it is simply a fantastic tool 👍
@doke You need to get yourself a "short throw" projector. They are more expensive but the distance issue would virtually be eliminated. The other factor is the "nits" that the projector puts out. The more nits, the brighter and more powerful the projector can throw the image. As a baseline, you'll be after 5000+ nits for it to be fully visible in the daytime.
This will NOT be cheap at all but it is possible if there is a situation where you can see yourself needing to put something up in a time crunch.
Really love your videos and your work man. I appreciate you and look forward to your future projects!
Xiaomi has good 5000+ lumens ultra short throw projectors (~€1500)
@@strecher777 Nits are not lumens though.
@@martinusmagneson An easy estimated conversion for Nits to Lumens is pretty easy to remember: 1 Nit = 3.5 lumens.
Work smarter not harder. Use it when it benefits you. You're still creating the initial design. It's no different then drawing something on one thing and tracing it onto another. It's not cheating. Keep being awesome and thank you for the content.
Agreed. If a projector is "cheating" then what about stencils?
The projector seems to be the way to go! Of course, the weather plays a roll but, you've got backup options! Thanks for sharing.
The construction guys were hilarious.
To fix the lighting, you can just start early in the morning when its darker then by full light, you can finish the details
One thing that wasn't mentioned was parallax, which is where the image will warp if the projector is not aimed exactly at the middle of the canvas. Think if you were going to aim the projector at a 20m wall from the ground... the wall at the bottom might be 5m away, but the wall at the top is now 25m away, and the image gets bigger as it goes up the wall. Most projectors have built in ways to counter this effect, but you must take time to adjust the setting to make sure it is correct.
I’ve been working with doing my art with projectors for a few years now! I use a Epson LC 1080p one!
Ever sense my teacher went ‘ yeah back in the day the masters used to use them also to trace there huge paintings out ect’ and I was hitched on it. Cause I didn’t really know how to paint at the time.. And it has increased my painting a ton. I also started with shit projectors! If you really dump you’re money into em, you’ll get better results with you’re work!
I also get loads of requests/jobs so I don’t have a lot of time to sit and measure shit. Even though I should! Cause people want there shit lol. Loved this video man! Been watching you for a few years now! Wish we had legal walls here
The Epson which came with a black shoulder case, right? Velcro vert flip top and with logo printed in grey on bottom right corner?
I’ve been using this method for years and it can’t be cheating when you just blow up what you already created. Excited to see what you create with this in your arsenal.
Yes with art in general I think tracing your own work is always fine
@@darth_hylian I am no artist but tracing your own stuff is very much okay because you’ve already created it and you just want to copy it by hand.
Super awesome Doke! I have the mindset that it doesn't matter how you get to the end, as long as you are satisfied with the result. The projector could definitely help speed up the tedious parts of your work, so you can focus on the details.
I think it is pretty cool, and I agree that the final result is what matters. This would shine when doing portraits (I've seen you do some faces and it's hit or miss! lol). Would love to see more with the projector and what limits you can push it too!
Hey brah, my Names Jever and I'm a muralist from Usa. One of your old vids was my introduction to doodle grids. I now use them constantly and has totally changed my game. It's helped my business a ton. Saves time, Helps me give renderings better than just a pic of a sketch. Etc. game changer for sure.
This video saved me months of thinking, the scribbles method i see all the time with artist using but i never know what its called or how its being used, thanks doke.
I really like the fact you always trying new things and projecter are great! looking forward to see more !
Super dope 😯
It's a good tool for sure when is used right.
Like I can definitely see that it can be helpful for characters or for doing a clean project for a business/shop etc.
I love the music you use, and the editing! It so amazing, it reminds me of what my childhood was like, just being able to be free and do what I want. I love your videos so much. Please keep making amazing content, learning and sharing it with us! ❤❤❤❤
One thing you could improve. A projector projects light, it cannot project "dark", so when you project an image composed of black lines, what it is really doing is projecting the white background around it, and not putting any light into the areas of the lines, this means your lines will be the same brightness as your background. If you have a quite a light coloured background (like the light grey wall in the video), this would mean there's less contrast between the background and the strokes, to bump up the contrast you can paint the wall black instead of grey. Alternatively you could also change the image you are projecting to have a black background and strokes which are brightly coloured like bright red or green.
i think this is a great solution. ive used a projector before for murals and it always makes everything so much easier, and it also takes the guesswork out
Great video again Thanks!
I’ve had a few projectors and some work best on darker walls where there’s more light!
Brand spankin new viewer here - found you while doing research on nightquill adapters. You've got great stuff, I learned a few things that had nothing to do with the projector from this video and I've been painting about 17 years. Thanks for spreading the knowledge
Love the 2 nd portion with different paints already printed !
It’s super satisfying to watch you paint with the projector
This is exactly what I have thought of and used once, helps a lot.
Projector is great tool, especially for murals, I used it for several times :) First I was surprised you bought the first one, but after you bought Optoma, I can just recommend it to you. I have one with wide lens as well and it works great.
I do lots of visuals for events and clubs. The best ones I have found are laser projectors for doing lined art in daylight, but no matter what, it's going to be hard to get a sharp image. The only thing I could suggest is adjusting the image's contrast using the built-in settings or the app settings. Hope that helps
Ten Hundred - Peter Robinson uses projector's on his large project's. I see no problem with them as long as you and your client are happy with end results.
On a personal note Doke I would like to thank you again for the very cool print I recently received from you. The 3d print is amazing. The gold print is also a favorite but the two the additional tags you did are very special to me because they were done by your hand.
I'm looking forward to what the new year brings my friend.
what you could do is get a laser projector that shines the laser where the lines are. like one you use for a party, but instead of music... use it for painting if the laser light could shine where the lines are then it would be powerful enough in the daylight
I seen people use the projector, I think it’s more for the inside artwork. Happy Holiday Doke‼️✨
Cool video! I use a projector for some of my indoor jobs and have run into a couple of narrow spaces, my work around was to partition the wall making a few pieces of tape as reference and projecting each section separately until you get the whole drawing. If prepared ahead, you can even divide your artwork into separate files and adjust as you go. I’ll check the battery source, looks useful. Again, great video man 👍
I'm curious if there's a machine that can project lasers of your design 🤔 would be stronger than a normal projector for sure
Laser projector costs alot but is really bright.
This is what I call the winner of the number 1 mural artist of the past 10 years. Cause that’s what’s doing the work.
On light surfaces invert the image so the outline you are tracing is white or green, this will help it be more visible as you eyes will adjust to the small amount of white light reflected from the outline and not the large amount when its projecting white for all of the background.
Also there’s one more old method people still use Pouncing. I have done it a couple times for a mural company, but yeah projecting is a lot easier. I only like using a projector if it’s for a client piece that they want the mural done asap, but for my personal art I use a grid I just make dots. I have tried other things like putting pieces of tape in random spots of the wall as a grid method.
Hells yeah!! I've been struggling with this for a while, deff the most informative video on the topic. I do not see how the projector method is cheating.. I use mine all the time but mines not digital its a drawing projector from autograph so you have to draw what you project and have more limitations to the sizing of the images. If I were to do more murals on walls I would deff look into investing thank you again for your time and for the doodle grid process as well
I think a lot of large scale muralists use it. Also it’s good for odd perspective techniques and sort of using 3D CAD program and projecting it onto buildings and achieve results like Peeta.
I used to use projectors a lot in traditional graphic design, the only drawback to them is their lens distortion. If you want absolutely straight block letters it’s difficult to achieve without warping them in some way.
My opinion is even with a projector it is still artwork that you've taken time to make it really doesn't matter that it's tracing the work you had already created. You're effort is still in the art work you designed it then transferred to the wall it's still dope thank you for your content
In the pass, i had hired a team to paint on a wall in a club. They used Retro-Projection (the same tool they used in school to teach you maps on a wall) ^^
it did worked well
As long as the original art is yours however you reproduce/resize it is not cheating. Projectors are a fantastic tool. Great video. Thanks
You should paint the green tractor and the two workers in orange jackets on that wall,... It will blow their mind
Well they did say "paint my tractor" or something. Just paint their tractor, on the wall 😂
Can't believe when you revealed the other projector it is the one I'm actually watching this video on in my livingroom right now! It is a great projector indeed, it is all about the lumins and the short throw my friend :)
You can still use it in small spaces by bouncing the image off a mirror. And you can also to some degree reduce the parallax issue with it. Just remember to project a mirrored version of your original image, if the projector doesn't have mirroring as a menu option.
That was a great vid, I liked the 3 style comparisons but very disappointed that you’re losing those walls, thats my favourite place that you paint in your videos
U should try using an light color as an outline for projecting the sketch, might give a clearer image
You should also look into whats called a short throw projector...im not sure how powerful they are but they are made for narrow spaces
I'm not an artist but I used a projector a couple of times to draw art on our walls at home.
My daughter can choose every couple of years a new look for her room.
I just project the photo she wants a we paint it together and she is always happy with the result.
You could try something like having a grid or indicating mark in your sketches and moving the projector closer then do a corner at a time (or more segments) using the grid/marks to align so you can move the projector closer to the wall and need less space and also get more brightness
I've got a little projector that is a 1inch cube, not the sharpest of brightest thing out, but it works great and is easy to carry.
Short throw projector from optima are very handy outside. But will need power source. They sit very close to wall so brightness better but shadow is harder to deal with.
You can also try stacking projectors. In some exhibition they use multiple projectors and stack them vertically or horizontally and faze in the different screen to sit all in one location to enhance the brightness of the picture.
Idk if this had been mentioned yet but inverting the drawing so it’s a black background instead of white would increase contrast during the day and make it easier to see!
Loved your concept ❤️☺️❤️☺️
I think the projector is cool.even If I had to do the outline at night and come back the next day and finish it it's still pretty cool
Is it worth experimenting with different colours in the projected art to make the lines more visible? Yellow and black give the highest contrast. You could also try inverting the background and the line (black background with white or yellow lines) to see if that makes things easier. Finally, you have the artwork you want to create, perhaps having a version for projections with thicker lines would be make it clearer on brighter days.
It’s a very cool technique. Everyone can choose what they want, to recreate something of their own.
One trick for you, you could invert the colors, so that your sketch changes color, the draw lines will be white and the background black, you will see better in a bright day then, I think :)
Your work is awesome. 🎊🙏🏼
Also, you might want to prepare your sketch image to "pre-correct" perspective projection and put projector right side of wall normal axis, to avoid occluding light by your body and hands.
Maybe try using more contrasting colors from your background on the projector to the wall. That might help make it pop in the day time
You need to use a short throw projector . You place it on the floor about a foot away from the wall and it projects the image up at an angle .
I use a projector exclusively for my murals....I do mine a little different though, I mask off what's not going to be painted with blue painters tape, the I cut what ever tape is still in the area that is going to be painted...so I lay it, spray it, the peel it...works great for me
I love it. I plan on trying the doodle idea. Keep up the great work.
Hi Doke. I started following your work at the beggining of this year, and I love your stuff.
As you ask what we think, to be honest, I've seen that there is some sort of street meritocratic idea that this is not true/based enough. But in job terms, you win a lot of time and loose a lot of effort, specially when you deal with clients that want things get done fast and as close as possible to the sketches that you present to them in the first place. Its simply a tool, and as valid as the grid or the free hand method. The downside is in the cost of having such tools, but if you can afford them (and make your life easier btw), then I guess you can ignore all that street meritocracy and do your thing. Cheers from Argentina and keep it up!
I find overhead projectors give much cleaner lines and work better in light situations. You can find 3M ones that fold into a little case. You can also get a ryobi battery with power inverter for ease of use/transport.
Hi Doke. I've been using it but feel that direct painting is more fun, though less accurate. Great vid!
You can get short throw projectors that only need to be a meter or so from the wall to project a large image
Since you only have a small area with projector during day time you could zoom in the image so it matches proportions of the wall and do the panting in portions.
definitely worth using on more complex projects where sketching is slow even with the doodle grid
Projectors are a great tool! I used it all the time for my commissions. It is not cheating since we are projecting what we create. 🥰
Idea for a wider picture even in narrow spaces:
Place the projector facing away from your wall.
Then position a mirror in a tripod to reflect the picture back to the wall.
That way you can cut the distance by ½.
We used this method when we had a projector instad of a tv.
Works pretty good. Of cause you have to flip the image.
If you vectorize the sketch you could use something like the laserCube. Since the draw with laser light they are relatively immune to sunlight, bit they are quite expensive and i don't know about their field of view. Great video :)
It looks great Doke. I have 2 suggestions to alleviate the issues you seem to be having.
1. They offer short throw projectors. The benefit is that they don't need to be 7m away. 1 or 2 would probably be good.
2. Having another projector shining the same image from another angle would prevent you from casting your Shadow on the wall so much. A problem you would like likely encounter with this setup though is that the images would need to be skewed because they wouldn't be perpendicular to the wall.
If you ask me, the different types of methods have their place. If you want it quick and dirty with only slight preplanning, go freehand. If you want to make a moderately large piece like a graffiti on a 2 meter wall, go with a grid. If you want to do a mural on the side of a large building where crucial details could be several feet apart, go with a projector
I think projector will be a nice tool to make some shifts of whole thing. In cases like glitch effect
They also make a projector called a "short throw" projector that allows the projector to be closer to the wall.
You don't have to Prove your skills Doke! As an artist you get to use whatever tools you want to achieve perfection!
It's amazing!! And it's necessary when people are paying you good money to paint for them. Obviously business is different than personal pride.
DOKE I just seen this video of someone making art with a stick that was on fire I just think you could make something really Awesome with this technique.
Work SMARTER and EASIER.Great idea DokeTV.
I was using freehand graffiti techniques from many years but now making murals in a restaurant and doing commission work, Projectors gives crisp and fine results in lesser time and the satisfaction of the client as well
My dad was a commercial sign painter and used to paint billboards and sometimes he would use a projector on big projects. Or he would use a pattern and chalk bag .
You also have the short throw projector, that can be located near the wall.
Projectors are definitely the way to go. Whenever you can use one you should!!
just a tool to make incredible art! it wont work in every situation as you stated, but it will be great when you can use it!
keep up the great work Doke!
I do calligraphy with back lighting and use tracing paper for sketches all the time. Whatever works! You should check out the technique of the painter Johannes Vermeer.
It looks perfect with the projector!
This would be a great addition for some of your indoor murals you have done. However it wouldn't work too well on something like the corner cherry blossom one you did.
You should try it with a short throw projector they work in day light as well, but they are more expensive tho. LG has a portable one HU80KSW
Really Nice vidéo, as always man ! Thanks for that !
I was wondering if you had a tuto for painting whit a bomb, i just buy some cans but don't really know how to use it to get differents effects :)
I wonder if you created a negative image so that you are projecting a black box with white lines, that would probably help to improve the visibility of the sketch projection.
try a laser projector you can put it only a meter or less from the wall! little bit expansive but I think it would work better in tight spaces.
Hey Mr. Doke, there a near field projectors, that you can use in short distance to walls for big pictures, maybe check one of them. would like to see that results.
I use Projektors some years and it makes so much so much easier
They have short throw projectors that produce a very large image with the projector very close to the screen (wall) and laser powered projectors that are very bright. They can get extremely expensive though!
I've used a projector for commissions before, sometimes its straightforward you have enough room and the room isn't so bright, sometimes it is a nightmare the room is not big enough it is too bright. But should you use one if you are not painting for a job? My honest opinion is if you can do it free hand or with a grid then why not. But I don't think that people who can not achieve the same results with manual methods should use the projector as that is cheating rather than saving time.
It might be more expensive but there are short throw laser projectors which are great for brighter rooms. Still need the power source though but could work better.
Bro, love ur videos, plz keep going because you're "THE TH-camR" in this subject, graffiti. I'm pretty sure that ur gonna go on top of youtube, ur going to have millions and millions of subscribers in a couple years. For sure. Keep going my boy!!!
I'm wondering if projecting the template in a different color than black could work better, because the black will only be an absence of white light on an already white wall, conflictingly making not that high of a contrast. Maybe projecting something in blue with an orange background or something would be more visible during day
If you cut your stencils out by hand or use a digital image of your own on a projector, it is fair game.
The only grief I have with the process is that I foresee some people in the future never learning to draw and only tracing. I enjoy doing a piece over and over again. I get better every time and in my opinion, that should be the point. I think the projector idea would be ideal for a giant mural. Thanks for the inspiration.