New York: wonderful old Penn station around and before 1950 in color! [A.I. enhanced & colorized]
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- Great colorized film footage of New York's old Penn Station before it was demolished in 1963. Many New Yorkers and visitors from all over the World have scorned the dreadful decision of the Pennsylvania Railroad company together with New York's city council to demolished the beautiful building of old Penn station (opened in 1910). It was replaced by a montrous highrise building for Madison Square Garden and Penn Plaza.
The decision to demolish old Penn station meant that almost the entire new station was constructed under ground.
At the time the The New York Times wrote: "Until the first blow fell, no one was convinced that Penn Station really would be demolished, or that New York would permit this monumental act of vandalism against one of the largest and finest landmarks of its age of Roman elegance."
Fortunately it seems that there are now plans to more or less restore Penn station to its original glory by moving it across the street or other plans to open it up. As usual there is a lot of controversy about the various plans.
The original video has been motion-stabilized, slightly speed-corrected, enhanced and A.I. colorized.
This is raw footage, probably shot for a movie or documentary.
Source: archive.org
Music: Francis Wells with "New York City" and "New York Love"
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Looks so grand that it seems unreal. It was an architectural atrocity to demolish this world wonder. It could have stood for ages.
Destroying history
@@sallyanne8815 It needed to be smashed down and useful stuff be built in its place. Everything is history and we can't keep everything. We have to replace the old with the new.
@@PreservationEnthusiast one should divorce his wife when he finds that she has no use, then choses a new one.
@@MinhNguyen-ff6xf Wives don't have anything to with redeveloping Penn station. People are not buildings and vice versa.
@@PreservationEnthusiastHave you ever walked in the current Penn Station before ?? The current Penn station is doesn’t compare to the original functionally nor aesthetically.
Visiting MSG in the late seventies I was struck by the overall ugliness of the whole thing....low claustrophobic ceilings everywhere, lifeless architecture ... what a loss was Penn Station.
Thank you for the great footage!
It was an absolute crime to demolish the station building.
Every time i see Penn Station it breaks my heart to see how this magnificent masterpiece was destroyed. A piece of heart from New York was buried in the rubble that day.
What a magnificent piece of architecture, now lost to us forever.
It's destruction was nothing less than absolute vandalism.
Back in time, people dressed sophisticated. Imagine walking around and men wore suits on a regular and women wore dresses on a regular..must be a classy feeling.
Grand statement. The '60's marked a time when many buildings were taken down.
I like that everyone had shoes on not sneakers.
All were dressed nicely. No butts hanging out of extremely baggy pants. No litter to speak of either. No one is on their cell phones or munching from some mylar bag. No one is holding a water bottle. Wonderful.
Men also smoked cigars and pipes and not joints
Back then, people had more respect for themselves but less respect for buildings; today they have more respect for buildings but less respect for themselves.
You can wear the same clothes whenever you like. No one's stopping you.
@@crixxxxxxxxx 😄😂 I do
@@libertytreebud5406 You get dressed up like the women in the video to ride a subway/train?
I always been fascinated with the look of the old Penn Station 💕 Its so unfortunate they tore it down. It was such an iconic, historical place. The fascination for me started when I first saw the Alfred Eisenstaedt photos of the soldiers with their wives & girlfriends before being shipped off overseas during WWII.
It's a shame that what was built atop the remains of Penn Station was Madison Square Garden. Architecturally, it does nothing for Manhattan. The irony of it all, was the perception of railroad decline with competing modes of transportation. Today, Penn Station is the busiest terminal in all of the US. Accepting 600,000 passengers per weekday.
I still can't believe we tore this down and built a cramped and dingy labyrinth of tunnels instead. The passageways get incredibly crowded during rush hour, and there's hardly any place to wait for trains.
I know, we were there 2 months ago. It is truly a horrible station. We couldn't find our platform to go to NewArk airport and had to ask twice where to go. We had to go down two different elevators and lots of corridors. Hardly any sign postages either.
my father was born on the Westside of Manhattan, in 1970, when I was 10 years old we walked through the current Penn Station and he said in his very NY accent "Oh, I used to sell newspapers here when I was a kid" and I said to myself WHERE would a kid sell newspapers in this place .. I didn't know there was "another" Penn Station .. clearly THIS is where my dad sold newspapers .. and HOW did anyone ever think it was a good idea to tear this palace down simply because it was a little grimy .. one of the biggest tragedies in NYC History!
Sadly - your father would have never seen the glory of the old PENN - it was torn down in the 60’s reducing the current train concourse to a rat maze for the human commuters. But there is now a bit of the former glory or at least the feel of it - from the across the street with the restoration of the old post Office Depot building that opened last year…. You should look it up - it’s quite wonderful and hints at what this would have felt like.
My father would speak of this Penn Station the one that defined New York City. He was astonished when they knocked it down and build whatever they call that today. I see it now in Miami. They knock down great looking buildings in order to build ugly as hell high rises that have no character. It is a shame. I am glad that the Newark Penn Station remains as that was the Penn Station of my youth.
destroying such a monument is a crime against humanity
No one looking down at a cell phone almost rivals the beauty of the station.
Beautiful views of Penn Station! Thanks for uploading.
Wow, thank you. Old Penn looks a masterpiece. Now let's rebuild it just like it was!
impossible, we'll need trillions and centuries
@@Frenchy78ify it wouldn't take centuries wouldn't even take 40 years
@@casbrowne9055 nope, more than that, every building we built since 1900 has 0 research in art, acoustic and ergonomy for example. As long as durability and premium materials.
We have no expertise whatsoever building stuff like that. Im sure there is a tons of complicated engineering problems you have when building such giganstic structure with art constraints.
Its easy to build even skyscrapers bc the problem is very straightforward.
But when you need to ensure that you have the perfection and size this building had, with great attention to details, the price and time grows exponentially
@@Frenchy78ify It's not that hard. Here in Hungary we are rebuilding many more detailed buildings than that. Our parliament's outer stones were entirely replaced in 4 decades because the original material wasn't good enough. We started to rebuild the royal palace with the entirity of the castle district on the Buda Castle, you can look up how it will be. Smaller buildings are already done as part of the project. But more than that, look at Dresden in Germany, all the beautiful buildings had to be completely rebuilt out of nothing, and it could be done under the communists. Architecture with state level resources are cheap investments.
@@p.b.5107 everything we build today is made of cement and concrete and cheap easy to build with materials. All the buildings look like s****, there no attention whatsoever to accoustics and arts like I said previously.
And the art displayed is 100x bettter than what we have today. Also there are a lot of other buildings as demeasured as this one accross the US. These are supposed to have been built by several hundreds of people by looking at the registered population at the time. This all doesn't make sense and this is my opinion.
Lives on Long Island my whole life but I always remember my Mom almost getting a tear in her eye talking about Classic old Penn Station. She had grown up in Brooklyn and been in old Penn many times.
It looks so huge with the people moving through it! It's almost as if you're not even indoors.
Good work, as usual. What a tragedy it was destroyed.
Magnificent station.
On January 1st, 2021, the renovated James A. Farley Building was opened to become the new Penn (Pennsylvania) Station. Originally the facility served as one of New York’s main post offices. It was built in 1914 with an annex completed in 1935. It was designed by the architectural firm of McKim, Meade and White. This firm also designed the original Penn Station of 1910. The new waiting area and concourse is called the Moynihan Train Hall, named after the late Senator Patrick Moynihan, who spearheaded the effort for this latest Penn Station rendition. Fortunately, the other two architectural gems of the Pennsylvania Railroad’s main line, Philadelphia’s 30th Street Station and Washington D.C.’s Union Station are still intact. Again thanks for a great video!
Farley's now playing host to a *portion* of LIRR's services and all of Amtrak's. It's *_FAR_* from becoming "the new Penn Station".
Chicago also preserved its Union Station, which has recently been restored to its former Beaux Arte beauty. And while the grand and colonnaded waiting hall has been preserved, the concourse was regretfully torn down in the 60s to make way for non descript office towers. The new Moynihan Station was opened to relieve the crowding and congestion in Penn Station. It caters primarily to Amtrak passengers. Penn Station continues to be the horrendous sacrilege and offense to human dignity and decency across the street from Moynihan. It easily ranks as one of the most hideous and inefficient train stations in the world. To have replaced the former Station for the present rot is unforgivable. It gives NYC, along with much of its infrastructure, a third world reputation.
Amazing work rick, beautiful footage, such a shame it was demolished 😔
Alot more calm and clean. I am fascinated with looking back at old videos of how life useto be before I was born.
I noticed before the second shot of the soldiers - that there was a CLAPBOARD in frame with the name of the director STURGES on top -- I just checked on IMDB - and sure enough - there was a second unit film shoot in PENN STATION for the 1942 film THE PALM BEACH STORY - so that must be why there is such great footage of it. I’ll have to go back and rewatch this movie - haven’t seen it in decades.
Thanks for the info!
Good detective work on your part. I had noticed the clapboard but nothing clicked for me.
Jacqueline Kennedy was involved in trying to save Penn Station. There was a fund raising effort, publicity drive, enlisting of celebrity spokespeople, etc. All to no avail.
Interesting! Where did you read that (source)?
I heard it was actually Grand Station. I just read an article about it.
Jackie led the campaign to save Grand Central because of what happened to Penn.
Back then travelers literally carried their luggage--not a wheelie suitcase to be seen!
The architecture of Chicago's Union Station (also largely a creation of the Pennsylvania Railroad) was very similar to NY Penn Station, although on a somewhat smaller scale. The Great Hall of CUS survives to this day and is still in use by Amtrak and Metra Rail.
They destroyed a monumental gateway to NYC , and for what??-- a msg stadium that looks like a hatbox and a office building that looks like a upright pack of a cigarette box!!
The parasites would leave no stone unturned in replacing the old world architecture with the so-called modern buildings which are aimed at deliberately lowering our vibrations and consciousness. 🕳️🐇
Shame you don't have the equivalent of the National Trust like they do in the UK. If you had Penn Station would have been saved.
disgusting that they destroyed this
God, I feel like I’m time traveling. This feels simultaneously so long ago, yet also as if I’m watching current events somewhere in the world. I wish so badly the developer’s who owned Penn Station didn’t destroy this incredible structure.
fault is with the city/state of New York for failing to Landmark it. Pennsylvania railroad was going bankrupt by the late 50s early 60s because of the country's move away from trains to the automobile, the interstate highway system and airplane travel. The company did what it could do to stay afloat by selling the valuable air rights above the station for development of the new Madison Sq Garden
@@kmslegal7808 And it was all for naught anyway. The Pennsylvania didn't even survive to the see the miserable basement that bears it's prestigious forebear's name opened. So much potential for the city lost when those walls came down!
*I think it musn't be easy to restore old films in this way, but it is worthwhile, for sure. Thanks a lot to the people who made it!*
Heartbreaking such a good station that’s so unfair they destroyed this I am crying 😭 😢
Beautiful video! Some of this footage I haven't seen, especially the stuff that places you ground-level inside the building (makes you feel like one of the travelers waiting around for a train!) and also the external shot in the entranceway where people are waiting for vehicles.
Old Penn Station is beautiful than current
Wow, this is absolutely amazing! Thank you for this awesome video. You have brought this magnificent station back to life!
Wow..I’ve been to it many times..I live in ny…great footage..
Rebuild Penn Station. If the Russians could rebuild Tsarskoe Selo and everything else, so can we!
No. No buildings like that will ever be built today.
@@cashewnuttel9054 Maybe not today but maybe in the future. Post-Modernism would eventually go out of fashion.
They kind of did that by converting the old post office across the street.
Take a look at what is planned to be demolished.
so sad it's gone
3:26 as the film transitions almost immediately the 3 people together walk away and into frame comes a man approaching the woman with the hat on and I think he’s kicking game to her haha. Smiling, charming it appears he is smooth and eventually they walk off together as he subtly gently grabs her arm and the rest was history. Being silly but imagine that there is someone whose watching this & this is their Grandparents initial meeting?
After being demolished, famous statues on the outside were dumped in New Jersey. Some were found and taken as art.
An act of wanton barbarism to destroy such an incredible structure. Great footage from the 1940s. I note there were no fatties back then.
Simply wonderful! Thank you Rick
yep
Sad. They also demolished the Singer Bldg and many others.
my god no wonder new yorkers hate penn station it was something else.
It was a crime to demolish that building & to replace it with yet another modern, Boring heartless structure & to make a New Madison SQ Garden that would now NOT be on Madison Avenue.
There was at least a huge protest and local effort to save old Penn that made some noise but in the end THEY always get what THEY want.
@@rustykuntz94 The previous MSG was not on Madison Ave either. It was at Eighth Ave and 50th St. the Garden hasn't actually been on Madison Ave since 1925, four decades before current one was built.
That said, the train station is still more important and the arena needs to be elsewhere.
"The decision to demolish old Penn station meant that almost the entire new station was constructed under ground." Not really. The existing station was covered over and renovated. There is very little that could be called "new" about the underground station.
Excellent thank you.
It’s so disappointing they tore it down but that’s the American way even these days let’s tear everything nice down let’s ruin beautiful land and build cheap crap.
america is the definition of cheap crap.
Thanks very much for this it's very much appreciated.
Looks like footage from the war years with so many servicemen
@kmslegal7808: The Korean War was just starting in 1950
WW2@@robertbruce1887
When colorization began, I didn't like it very much. The colors were all too bold and bright; unnatural.
These, however, are works of art. I watch all your videos and I'm mesmerized. Thanks
Great!
The only actual contemporaneous color footage of inside the station that I've ever seen is "The Seven Year Itch" (very briefly, at the beginning of the movie)...I wonder if any other exists?
Probably one of New York City’s greatest losses ever to happen in terms of train stations.My Dad,Uncles and grandparents were all iron workers in NYC.When the decision to finally demolish Penn Station was ordered my uncle was working on disassembling the steel structure.When they were removing the round stone medallions he kept one before it was destroyed.I’ll never forget seeing it laying down as a lawn decoration in their backyard during BBQ’s.I believe when they finally sold the house after he died it was still there.I regret never requesting to have it.
What's your opinion on the Mudflood conspiracy theories that these old buildings were built 100s of years ago by other civilization? I personally don't believe it.
@@inexpertxennial6067 Considering how well documented the construction of Penn Station was, the condo piracy is utterly stupid and idiotic. And even mentioning it is utterly stupid. So don't.
*Old Penn Station: America's Greatest Architectural Loss 1910-1963*
Time and tide wait for no one ! we could learn from this architecture
Brilliant.
Glorious!!!
Wow! People really did enter New York by train like Gods.
All is needed is some political will and it could be rebuilt. We could use CNC machines to mill the stone work. A lot of it is repetitive. Also the blueprints still exist.
The blueprints for all these grand buildings are nowhere to be found. Anywhere in the world.
@@dogwklr what is the reason behind that?
thanks
Mid 1940s - during WWII
it wasn't just the building that was lost but the people as well. Well mannered, well dressed, we used to be a society.
Nothing's stopping you from dressing that way today.
@@crixxxxxxxxx I do my best to dress my best. Others however do not.
@@adame6425 You dress like the people in the video when you take public transport? You put on a suit to take the subway/train?
@@crixxxxxxxxx i don't use the subway but when I take a train or airplane I wear a suit, yes.
@@crixxxxxxxxx Because the BLMs wouldn't target you if you dressed like that.
They destroyed many ancient buildings in 1960s around the world. They blew up the King's castle in Koenigsberg/Kalinigrad in 1959-1968. They destroyed Babylon in 2004, Palmyra in 2015. It was done by the same organisation, but under different flags.
It’s a shame
Also around that same exact time the old Beijing city walls were destroyed to make way for a new roadway. Coincidence maybe.
Also the huge city wall in Beijing china was destroyed around the same time as this, coincidentally.
Wat waren ze netjes en keurig gekleed in die tijd als ze op reis gingen. Ik zie geen enkele kreukel. Dames ook allemaal netjes met hoedjes, mantels en hakjes. Mannen in pakken
Very rear walking slow than fast i remember that old films where shot at 18 pieces a sec. Playing of 24 a sec. Its nice too see that
Impossible construction for the time....
No Junks or Dealers to be seen!
Entrañables imágenes!Música estupenda!¿Qué grupo musical es?gracias
Nice, just wish you would have used period music
Looked like a film set
It probably was.
Genial Pedro de Chile 🇨🇱 siempre me sorprendes videos de otra humanidad más civilizada y elegante además construcciones que se notan que eran de otro Gran Imperio por qué están en todo el mundo…🦉🕍🏛🗿🕌
IN ENGLISH ???
nothing to say it's great hats 🤠
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I'm just asking. If it was not wrecked back in the 60s, could it be saved as a working train station handleing TODAYS train traffic? Faget the Nicks and the office space....Just use it as it was built for...Would it still be viable?
The underground part of the station is still pretty much the same so yes
The train station operations were below street level. Nothing about train operations was affected by the demolition of the aboveground structure except the grandeur, beauty, and elegance of the old station's lofty ceilings above the tracks, lower concourse, and main concourse. That and the glass blocks in the floors allowing sunlight to reach the lower concourse and the platforms.
Thanks for answering my question.
they coulve made it a department store or something, you just don't ruin such an architectural marvel like that for any reason
why not Grand Central is still viable
What movie were they making?
Deep Throat
@@dxtxzbunchanumbers I looked up Deep Throat but it gave me different results. Are you sure that's the right movie?
@@danielanderson6933 🤣🤣🤣
The Palm Beach Story, as mentioned in the comments.
It's Madison square gardens now?
@Nazar They are
what are they doing to are beautiful and great nation
Was not our life better before?
No, it really wasn't !
In some ways yes. The decline of general civility is alarming. Manners, dress, language, behaviour... no longer valued :( but most social medical and technical changes are huge so I'll stay here :)
@@lklpalka yes. At some stage during xix century a Reset occured. The ancient technology has been stolen/removed. The quality of everything today is pure rubbish. I remember back 30 years ago when I lived in the Netherlands for about a year working in the greenhouse visiting shops with used furniture. Het good was the name of them from my memory. Oh the quality of old Dutch furniture. Amazing. Where are all these things now. Flood of Chinese rubbish.
Greetings from Poland.
@@artur4613 Sadly, I agree. Część from pan Lewandowski in Delaware :)
@@lklpalkaHello Mr Lewandowski. 😁
I love seeing old New York, but have to be honest being an African-American looking at these images kinda tuff... we came a long way
It's beauty is universal.
so you open video with more than 70 year old footage and lookin if theres any black people? u guys in usa are obssesed i swear.
@@LoLeQ88never understood why people care about race so much. everyone’s got 2 arms and 2 legs idgaf what you look like we’re still all stuck on this rock together
@@TsukiRaiki Says someone who is not Black.
Yeah, you sure have changed things.
I'm curious about why and how they captured those same four soldiers rushing to a train from several different camera angles.
Also, I noticed the black sailor. It appeared that there were two women who were staring at him, to see a black man in uniform? A video can be deceiving so perhaps I am misinterpreting that.
I also enjoyed seeing the cut of the women's skirts below the knee, it wasn't until the 1960's that women began wearing skirts at or above the knee which was still a matter of some controversy. .
Also, why is it that it wasn't until the 1980's or so that someone had the bright idea of putting wheels on luggage? I guess they didn't have the hard and light plastics previously.
You're being ridiculous. Black men in uniform were a enough of a common sight in train stations throughout the nation during this time.
@@luissantiago8446 How old are you?
The soldiers are part of a second unit film shoot - for the PRESTON STURGES film “THE PALM BEACH STORY” - I would assume - these are merely extras giving motion to frame or doubles for the main actors - as the film would have been shot mostly on sound stages in Los Angeles. Plastic was very expensive back then - so you aren’t wrong.
@@emintey How old are you to make such an ignorant presumption? It wasn't an oddity that had to be gawked at to see a black man in uniform in 1940s Manhattan.
@@OneLoveRSR I'm not old enough to have lived through WW2 (neither am I ignorant nor did I make a presumption but a speculation) are you? You'd have to be well over 80 to have any clear memory of that time. Train stations are places that bring together people from all parts of the country, you do know that the military was segregated in the 1940's right? As well as many other aspects of society so it's not an odd question to ask..
Blacks were initially passed over for the draft, later in the war they could be drafted but at a lower rate than whites. "In November 1942, with the United States now a participant in the war, and not merely a neutral bystander, the draft ages expanded; men 18 to 37 were now eligible. Blacks were passed over for the draft because of racist assumptions about their abilities and the viability of a mixed-race military. But this changed in 1943, when a “quota” was imposed, meant to limit the numbers of blacks drafted to reflect their numbers in the overall population, roughly 10.6 percent of the whole. Initially, blacks were restricted to “labor units,” but this too ended as the war progressed, when they were finally used in combat."
www.history.com/this-day-in-history/united-states-imposes-the-draft
Train travel was also heavily segregated: "Crew adds that the car speaks particularly to the challenges that African-Americans faced as they tried to move around the country. Train travel was the primary way people covered long distances in the United States until at least the 1950s. Since the segregation laws were almost entirely implemented in the South, this created strange situations for travelers moving between the two parts of the country.
“If you were coming from New York, when you got to Washington, D.C. you would have to make that switch,” says Crew. “Or in the Midwest, if you were traveling through Cincinnati when you got to the border with Kentucky, you have to make that switch.” "
www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/segregated-railway-car-offers-visceral-reminder-jim-crow-era-180959383/
Great, colorized pics, film clips. But the music is awful! I was just there today, and corrupt city-connected developers have only double-down on ugly.
Instead of removing the 1960s office tower facing 7th Ave (where the original grand entrance was, graced by a row of Doric columns) they actually renovated the tower and expanded it, making it bigger and uglier! This puts the nail in the coffin, of EVER rebuilding even a facade of Penn Station.
And if that weren’t enough, the McKim, Mead and White designed Pennsylvania Hotel that faced directly opposite the station, which had been the largest hotel in the world when it opened, and more grand than the still standing, legendary Plaza Hotel is today just a big hole in the ground. Gone!
And what will take its place? Another office tower, of course. The hotel was actually protected under the city’s landmark status, but THE DEMS who are running New York into the ground today do not pay attention to any laws. For the right price, they will selectively apply the law…
I HATE comments about the music! Please remove that alinea or sadly your comment will be deleted. Music is a personal and private taste. I cannot cater for everybody's taste.
@@Rick88888888 You'll probably never realize the irony of your admonishment.
Bro this has nothing to do with dems vs republicans, everyone’s cheap nowadays, that’s just how capitalism is. Blame the system, not the people who figured out how to exploitnit
@@hexapodc.1973 Your dated vocabulary, still banging on about “capitalism” and “exploitation” gives away the game…
@@hexapodc.1973 You sound vaccinated.
3:57 Joseph Goebbels walks by
many people don't seem to understand that while it was a shame to tear it down, it wasn't a great place to go to towards the last 15 years of its life. It wasn't making money either. It is a shame that it couldn't hold on but I understand why they did it.
I don’t
From what I heard it was still better than the modern one today
I am not impressed by this place. The interior exposed steel shows alk the money went to the exterior. MSG is better at this location with the new Penn Station almost entirely underground. It's still amazing today
It's an interesting video, as always, but people DO have to make a living! There must have been something before the old station, and some people will probably have missed *that* as well. Nothing lasts forever, and my preferences or yours should not deprive owners of important liberties. Marco Polo House on Queenstown Road in London was my favourite ultra-modern building, but I accept that it belonged to its owners, not the other way round, and that they made the right decision to have it demolished before their freedom to deal with their own property was seized from them through the building's proposed forced preservation. Otherwise, what's next - officials deciding whether people are allowed to buy new clothes because the latest fashion doesn't appeal to everybody?
A station shouldn't be privately owned but be part of the railway, that preferably is owned by its passengers. Demolishing old Penn station was a huge mistake.
Shareholders are often far too powerful and frequently have total disregard for the position of their company's customers. All that drives them is their return on investment.
@@Rick88888888 Well, I'm one of those people who do have to make a living, which at my age comes from the shares in my pension fund. Disregard for customers is short-sighted and does *not* help return on investment in the long run.
There is a strong case to be made for stations and lines to have the same owner. How passengers can own a line or a station is unclear to me. When *I* want to travel, the exorbitant price of my ticket is off-putting enough, without me having to buy part of the railway undertaking first!
Perhaps you mean public ownership, in which case we had best disagree without me presenting futher arguments, as I don't want to abuse your site for general politics. As far as my role as a customer is concerned, my shabby prefabricated adequate local station from the 1960s (in public ownership) was replaced by an impressive modern one in 2012, the expense of which I resent, as it came from my taxes.
there s a big difference between making a living and making poor decisions because of greed.
in the case of the old penn could have been improved while maintaining the same beauty. the new penn station was poorly planned and it's a nightmare to use: ugly, unsafe and illogical (I live in NYC)
@@williamfarnaby So the new station should have been planned better!
I still don't want to abuse a wonderful site for general politics, so I won't argue the rest of my point any further.
Let me merely clarify my position, as a mere opinion, without giving political reasons for it: Some people in London wanted to built a monstrosity the height of a skyscraper ("The Tulip") on a piece of land in the City of London, with practically no use other than as an observation platform or to put people off circumcision (by its design, which doesn't resemble a tulip at all).
After a lengthy battle with bureaucrats and politicians, it won't be built. It would have been a terrible eyesore, but it isn't my land and it wouldn't have been built with my money, so in my purely personal opinion it is wrong that I (via my elected representatives) should have any say in the matter.
And it would seem worse, again in my purely personal opinion, that I (who have never set foot in the USA) should want to tell people there what they can or can not do with a building they paid for. Not only have I not conquered the world, I don't want to, either!
@@peterjansen7929 Buildings are one of the most impactful "works of arts" we have in human civilization. An ugly art piece can be thrown away, street art can be washed, decor can be taken down, but buildings will stay on that field for decades and is visible to all. Regulation and order is needed so that cities do not become eyesores which sadly a lot has become in the 21st century