Windshield vs No Windshield Motorcycle

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  • @IdealBike
    @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

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    • @ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA
      @ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Informative video ! I ride both with a d without shields. Depends on the look and feel I’m wanting that day.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA Thanks a lot for supporting and comment!

    • @paulcober742
      @paulcober742 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi, could you give me an answer on the question above?
      Hi, im 5"10 (180cm), and drive a honda Shadow 2004 ace with normal seat. I have Short torso with long legs. Will a 41cm / 16 inch windshield fit? Or am i having a lot of buffeting then?

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @paulcober742 with that you should have better upper wind protection but you'll increase the buffeting on the middle part of your body.

    • @paulcober742
      @paulcober742 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Should I buy a larger one? 49cm (19 inch)? Isnt that too large?

  • @arturohernandez373
    @arturohernandez373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    That’s why I decided to get a windshield in both my boulevards. The highway winds make me get tired faster. Specially the neck area. I prefer the protection of the windshield.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Like I said in the discription, it is a matter of personal choise and of course the type of the bike you have. What I consider important is the visibility factor (in the city traffic). Greetings !

  • @AaronL1014
    @AaronL1014 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    somehow you sound like an astronaunt reporting back to huston, great vod!

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😁 Thanks for your nice comment 😁

  • @rolandet
    @rolandet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    NO NEED TO SHOUT IN THE WIND. WE CAN HEAR YOU JUST FINE ;)

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You are right, need to manage better the noise level 👍

    • @A.Sanyaasi
      @A.Sanyaasi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment! 😁

    • @thebrowns5337
      @thebrowns5337 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      PARDON?!

  • @Grahamvfr
    @Grahamvfr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It's funny in the 70s when bikes had no screens/fairings etc, we never even thought about windblast, although speeds were lower of course.
    However I find a naked bike is much more quieter and less buffeting up to 60mph 100kmh,as you say.
    But Yea at high speeds a good screen is essential.

  • @Johnrider1234
    @Johnrider1234 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I am 56. Windshield. Absolutely. Pushing wind sucks.

  • @Sitheonly
    @Sitheonly 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    24 years old currently Honda nighthawk 750. Never had a windshield so I’m used to doing 80mph+ on interstate without windshield. I find it amusing when people saying motorcycles are “unridable” without windshield at high speeds. I also owned Harley street 750 and Kawasaki eliminator 125. No windshields on any of these bikes and still pushing. I’m afraid once I get one I won’t be able to go back lmaao

    • @cirion66
      @cirion66 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I put a windshield on my rebel 500, went for a ride and immediately took it off after getting back for a variety of reasons:
      1. Rebel 500 is a small light bike, hence it does not have that much of an inertia force - "engine braking" increased so much, that releasing the throttle made my front suspension compress quite a lot just because of the windshield.
      2. The control and maneuverability changed a lot (to the worse)
      3. My "gut-feel" for how fast was I going disappeared - many times have I entered a corner way faster, than I would normally have and it made me realize, that I rely quite a lot on air resistance to estimate my speed
      4. Made me feel like I could not breathe. - Even though I opened all the vents on my helmet, I still felt stuffy and way too hot (in just a shirt and a leather jacket at 19C/66F) - it was making me nauseous.
      I have ridden at ~100mph and felt just fine - on the other hand if it's way too windy, then it can be a problem even at ~60mph - On those days it's simply better not to get on a bike
      I will rather look like a bug version of Jackson Pollock, have a closer feel for a ride and breathe more fresh air, than to feel like being in a vacuum in with all those other problems I have listed out. If I wanted to feel numbed down on my ride, I'd get in a car.

    • @Sitheonly
      @Sitheonly 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cirion66 that makes a lot of sense and thank you for the Insight. Helps me not rush to go buy a windshield

    • @knuckles-3386
      @knuckles-3386 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cirion66i just hope you never get hit by a big rock or piece of metal thrown up from the road

    • @stillshot2
      @stillshot2 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@knuckles-3386that's what a helmet and gear is for

  • @orionobolon4380
    @orionobolon4380 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thanks i just ordered a windshield. Your review jist reinforced my own thoughts about wind

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad to hear that! Greetings!

  • @MVando640
    @MVando640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I had a Puig touring windshield, but I’m 6’3” and the wind was hitting me right in the face. Took it off. Easier riding without it. Not tall enough for me. A short windshield is worse than none.

  • @perrymason8471
    @perrymason8471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I rode a naked bike at highway speeds and got up to 120mph and felt unsteady going faster. I put a windscreen(windshield) on and felt steady at 130mph. It's a world of difference.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed, that can really make a difference, even with few centimeters. Greetings !

  • @slavwillisalmera9692
    @slavwillisalmera9692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great video basically if your not riding mostly in a town or city then get a windshield if your bike is greater than a 125 cc and or ovegoes 80km's then get a windshield to avoid head and upper body strain , you might be okay if your on a sportbike in a low prone position 👍

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello! Ideed that was the idea to find out exacly what it's the wind aerodinamics for this particular motorcycle and for an average height of the rider (1,80m). I am.just a beginner rider, no proffessional one 👍😁.
      In the city it's just perfect without any Windshield 👍

  • @jaamaan123
    @jaamaan123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bike look pretty cool without windshield

  • @uttamgala7186
    @uttamgala7186 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Lol, I enjoyed this video. Screaming "THE PRESSURE IS TOO MUCH ON THE HELMET"

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      At that time I haven't discovered the ear - plugs

    • @mubashirafridi8085
      @mubashirafridi8085 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Actually felt like a plane is about to crash hahah

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @mubashirafridi8085 Haha, it was a bit of theatre over there.

  • @МартинДимитров-с3г
    @МартинДимитров-с3г 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have no windshield, hitting 120km is total horror.

  • @sippydumdum
    @sippydumdum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Good video, how ever I took my screen off and find it much better. Firstly the noise is much lower and yes, I wear ear plugs. My theory about the wind is that without the screen, the wind hits you from the lower chest to the helment, but with the screen, the same amount of wind hits you on the top of the shoulders to the helment and thus pushing you harder. I've tried raising the standard screen up about 90mm but was even worse than the standard setting. Having said all that, I'm from Australia and the speed limit is around 100 to 110 klm per hr. Cheers

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing ! Greetings !👍

    • @sippydumdum
      @sippydumdum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @J Jimenez thank you, very kind.

    • @Gizoogle1
      @Gizoogle1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Im finding the same thing. I am so confused bought a Puig screen after a double bubble put in higher posistions seem to be worse for wind noise. Going to try going back to lowest posistion and oem screen. What a waste of money on all these screens..

  • @stuarthoward6587
    @stuarthoward6587 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I ride a ducati monster with no screen whatsoever. You get used to it! Plus I find that wearing a leather jacket rather than textile also makes a big difference. The textile jacket creates more drag so not the best for higher speeds.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there! Thanks for sharing, Greetings!

  • @Roomer645
    @Roomer645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Great comparison ! a lot of effort was put into this, good english and overal a very usefull review for those who wonder about using a different windshield or driving with no windshield at all.
    Thank you !

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Sergio, your positive feedback gives me motivation to work harder and to offer usefull content. Greetings!

  • @alkaholic4848
    @alkaholic4848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I actually like the pressure on your chest and helmet. Without it you have to constantly tense the muscles at the back of your neck and upper back to hold your head up, which after a long ride gives you neck/back ache.
    Without the windscreen the air pressure pushes you back and holds your body upright, relieving the pressure off your neck and back muscles.
    (Up to about 120kmh. Varies bike to bike, but on mine at least it starts to get too much over that.)

    • @Attrazzione
      @Attrazzione 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mate I got a Yamaha mt today first time driving in 6 years had to drive it 120 Km home 😭❤️😬 it was fun but the wind frightened me. I drove supersport and chopper bevor and I couldn’t remember the wind so hard. With the naked bike I felt the wind so hard 100 km/h + I shit my pants but only on the autobahn. ( highway). On country roads it was fine

    • @Attrazzione
      @Attrazzione 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you think a windshield will help ?

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can imagine

  • @robbiegriffiths7197
    @robbiegriffiths7197 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great report on wind pressure, but nothing about noise. I find the original windscreen takes all the pressure off the helmet (no sore neck), but the buffeting causes a lot of noise, which to me is more important. Ear plugs an absolute necessity (and a pain).

  • @jamesnickel4748
    @jamesnickel4748 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for that comparison! I have a brand new NC750s (naked version) and want to put some touring accessories on it for travelling between London and Cyprus with my son....the Puig touring screen was an accessory I was looking at. Now, I know I will get one. Thanks for the evaluation and all the best! Romania looks absolutely cool to motorcycle around....I must go there too! 😊

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi James, thank you for the comment! Indeed seems to be the best option. Also Givi touring windshield it's great also but it's not compatible with the handguards. Regarding Romania, indeed it's a great country to travel with the motorcycle, this year I prepare a surprise for you all regarding the new travel videos so stay tuned! Greetings! 👍🏍

  • @KO-pk7df
    @KO-pk7df 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I rode my bikes for 40 years all over the USA, in rain, cold, heat and all the crap that is in the air until my first bike with a windshield FJR1300, I don't know how or why I did that for so long, guess I just thought it part of riding but know everything I ride has a windshield and handguards!

  • @danilobaca7901
    @danilobaca7901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is what im looking for, thanks to info, some times i drive on highways and i ask my friend bikers if they feel like me, they said is normal, but for me it's super uncomfortable specifically when pass a freightliner so after look this video I'll going for my windshield, btw I have boulevard m50

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to help, thank you for the comment !

  • @lucymuffin30
    @lucymuffin30 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Spot on video. I've got the same bike and same screen and have to agree it's a wonderful screen for highway use....

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi there! Indeed, the windshield from Puig does a good job. For more wind protection we have to use the car 😁

  • @TristanMorrow
    @TristanMorrow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I prefer a windshield generally 🌬️💨🛡️🏍️🙉
    NC750X: the Honda stock and touring lexan have a *cutout* but many aftermarket screens do not. This "hueco" is a ram air scoop that works with the black plastic behind it to make a high pressure zone to force air up and over the rider's helmet -- aerodynamics magic but it really reduces buffeting and wind noise. Next time you ride, feel the air there with your hand 💨🛡️👐🏾
    Keep it rubber-side down ✌🏾

  • @jsirkerp
    @jsirkerp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Useful video. I love the look of naked bikes, but the thought of riding them on the highway is not a nice one.

  • @winterpurple4587
    @winterpurple4587 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Rather than using a windshield, I recommend just using an aerodynamic helmet. Race helmets are plentiful in the market. They're track tested and create the least amount of drag and wind resistance. They're also ultra light. As for pressure on the body you deal with that by crouching. So the faster you go the more you crouch. Again it's a track tested method where they go at speeds of 300Km/h to 360Km/h !!
    Windshields are a double whammy. Blocks air to the rider at slow speeds, creates enormous drag which saps the fuel out of the bike at high speed. Not to mention having to pay for an extra accessory! You're already carrying and wearing a helmet anyway, just use a more aerodynamic one.

  • @fogrunr5075
    @fogrunr5075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Tomorrow I'll be experimenting with putting different edgings on my windshield to break up the turbulence.

  • @KevinNguyen-zn4vv
    @KevinNguyen-zn4vv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I made a 600 mile round trip on a scooter (Aprilia Scarabeo 500 ie), averaging ~80mph without the OEM windscreen and wearing a 1/2 face helmet. The ride was really enjoyable through the pass (58) until I hit i-5 or 99 -- I ducked and drafted behind a car the entire ~120 mile stretch.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great!

    • @knuckles-3386
      @knuckles-3386 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very dangerous obviously you’ve never been hit by something thrown up from the road

    • @KevinNguyen-zn4vv
      @KevinNguyen-zn4vv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@knuckles-3386 Never doing that again. HAHA.

  • @diegoribeiro2002
    @diegoribeiro2002 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The video might be a little old, but it was very funny! Riding my Rebel 500 without a windshield over 100km/h is definitely horrible. We have a lot of wind here in Portugal normally, in the highway then... lol

  • @grahammawdsley4864
    @grahammawdsley4864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hello my friend
    I love the test and review video 👍
    Thank you so much for carrying it out
    I hope people will try it now for themselves to see the difference having no screen makes around the city and on the highway.
    Once again you have put together an amazing video you will for sure get past 1k subscribers good luck with all your future videos we will be watching

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for supporting! And of course thank you for giving me the idea of this video ! Greetings!

    • @grahammawdsley4864
      @grahammawdsley4864 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's good to see how many views your video has had in only a few days 👍.
      I've watched all of your motorcycle videos you definitely have given me some ideas of places and roads to visit and ride do you live in the south of Romania?
      I've not visited the south as yet it's on my list tho 👍

  • @Croth4r
    @Croth4r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks, good test, shows the real value of windshields

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi there, thanks for the comment! After so many km done with this Puig windshield there is no doubt for me...it's one of the best. Check out also the last video with the fuel consumption. Greetings! 👍🔝🏍

  • @Marco-cl9pb
    @Marco-cl9pb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Without the windshield and no handguards it would look nice for a naked lol
    I always ride on naked bikes it only gets uncomfortable above about 150kmh

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hehe, it's a customizabile bike, didn't seen so far one transformed in a naked, it would be a nice project. 👍🏍

    • @jordan9339
      @jordan9339 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IdealBike Maybe the shape of the headlight deflects more wind than headlights of the naked bikes, and it makes it worse. My windshield deflects so much air into my helmet, that I get fierce buffeting even at 120. If I lift my body 5cm up, buffeting stops. I have to try without it like you. But my bike will look even more incomplete.
      Salutări from Bulgaria.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jordan9339 Thank you for the comment, I love Bulgaria especially Balcik, Cape Kaliakra, Crapets Beach and Sofia! Greetings from Romania!

  • @maxduke3505
    @maxduke3505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For science! Thank you.

  • @VitalyMack
    @VitalyMack 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I ride quite a bit at over 120 km per hour with no screen. Its great because i get yo scrape a ton of bug from my visor...free protien!

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hehe ☺️ Thanks for the imput!

  • @mrfechu6281
    @mrfechu6281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I did the same test and I had no problem riding without the screen even at high speed, I got more pressure on my chest -not a big deal- but I felt less turbulence in my helmet. I´m 1.87 m.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing !

  • @briank3754
    @briank3754 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Windshields have never worked for me. Give me a naked bike even for longer trips.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for sharing !

  • @EXA054
    @EXA054 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great study! Thanks for sharing!

  • @yasseralsaidi1168
    @yasseralsaidi1168 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The windshield should go up and down on its own depending on speed

  • @RamiAgonistes
    @RamiAgonistes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very great experiment! good job man

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! 👍

  • @dennisstimson5830
    @dennisstimson5830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks,great review and info. Excellent observations. Live to ride,Ride to live.

  • @stanleyblazeraznik6047
    @stanleyblazeraznik6047 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Luv da accent and English language usage. Nice.

  • @みきさと-t3j
    @みきさと-t3j 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you from japan.This movie is very interesting.my bike is africa twin,and I feel too hot in summer time.In winter and when I ride my bike on highway,very comfortable. Im sorry that lmnot good at speaking English so well.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there and thank you for the comment!

    • @heinekensese_
      @heinekensese_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Otsukaresama deshita

    • @みきさと-t3j
      @みきさと-t3j 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dear Hineken sese
      Thank you.You know splendid japanese word.

    • @heinekensese_
      @heinekensese_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      みきさと yoroshiku onegai 🤗

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@heinekensese_ thanks for your comment!

  • @Ghryst
    @Ghryst ปีที่แล้ว +2

    its like he thinks he just invented the 'naked' motorbike

  • @whocanmakeyourwholeweek7272
    @whocanmakeyourwholeweek7272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    26000km on a 2018 vstrom 1000 without windsreen. removed it when i left dealers. hated it. obstructed vision and made too much turbulance around helmet. i find no screen is comfortable up to 160kmh no worries.

  • @glynmumby104
    @glynmumby104 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi, I'm more interested in the noise level with and without the screen. I ride a naked Honda street style bike. Yes, there is wind pressure on your chest, but the noise inside my helmet is just a faint rushing sound. When I ride my NC750X (DCT) with the original screen and a new taller Givi screen I have just fitted the wind noise in my helmet is roaring and intolerable. I find the noise level very stressful and it ruins the ride experience. To note, I wear Howard Leight foam pink / yellow ear plugs, whatever bike I ride. Can anyone comment on noise levels with and without screens. I definitely feel that all screens introduce noise. Also, I might be tempted to remove the black plastic deflector that shields the instrument cluster, to see if that makes any difference ?

  • @alexkaraya
    @alexkaraya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Haha, Awesome test, with a great sense of humor. Great work.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, appreciate it! 😉

  • @johnwalshire2884
    @johnwalshire2884 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the midwest a full windshield adds weeks to both ends of the riding season

    • @johnwalshire2884
      @johnwalshire2884 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My daughter and I went on a 1,000-mile ride last month on a pair of 150cc scooters. Since she didn't have a windscreen on hers, I took mine off the Vespa so we would have the same experience. It was 95 degrees plus in Kansas and Nebraska. I got the reminders on the advantage of not having that hot air blasting in my face all day. And wearing an open face helmet, I sampled the varied bug life of the region. It was fun. We will do it again this fall, but the windscreen will be on.

  • @jadonx
    @jadonx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if windscreens were designed with more of a V shape looking down, more air would be veered to the sides and less to the top. So less noise and helmet pressure.

  • @v.7756
    @v.7756 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vezi ca ai depășit poliția :). Îmi place motorul! Have fun!

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mersi frumos, apreciez! 👌

  • @Ian-ny6ux
    @Ian-ny6ux 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good informative video brother. Good delivery of observation & experience too.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks appreciate it 🙏

  • @ericwilliams2317
    @ericwilliams2317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Many years ago, when I first started biking, I asked a guy in a bike shop a stupid question, which was 'whats it like on a bike if you take the windshield off'?
    "Windy" came the answer!

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In the city traffic there is no point for the windshield

  • @stevendavies8496
    @stevendavies8496 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video ,,you got another subscriber look forward to your next vid

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a lot for supporting! Next video this week comming soon. Greetings!

  • @sherrifft770
    @sherrifft770 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want to ride through Romania on a motorcycle someday! It's a nice country

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's for sure, you can check out my Playlist with Best Motorcycle Roads in Romania

  • @josephlarmor550
    @josephlarmor550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Riding at speed between moving lanes of traffic is suicidal, as you do at 4:00. Car drivers changing lanes simply cannot see you. For van drivers it’s a nightmare. Be patient, ride defensively and arrive alive.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Charles! You are totally right. Indeed in some countries, line passing it's agreed by the law, but only when the cars are stationary. Still, when the cars are moving, there is too much variables going on... Totally agree. Greetings!

    • @alkaholic4848
      @alkaholic4848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah speed is the problem. I can't tell whether the video is sped up at 4:00 or not. If not then yes very bad idea.
      We call it "filtering" in the UK, it is legal but only in "slow moving traffic".
      I set myself personal rules for filtering :
      - no more than 30mph top speed
      - no more than 15mph fastER than the slowest car. (Eg if both or one lane is not moving then I wouldn't be doing anywhere near 30mph, because the most important thing when filtering is your speed relative to the rest of the traffic.)
      I don't spend my whole time looking at the speedo, it's only rough guidelines but it helps keep myself in check.
      (I cba to do the calculations to kph sorry.)
      Being able to filter through backed up / crawling traffic makes a huuuuge difference to your journey, especially in the rush hour. It's better for everybody else and the environment because you keep moving rather than holding everyone else up. But blasting through the middle of flowing traffic at high speeds is not necessary and is dangerous.

  • @motodrang4287
    @motodrang4287 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you’re doing 65+ all day = wind protection. If that’s your usual, get a touring bike with fairings.

  • @gumpertapollo97
    @gumpertapollo97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm a naked bike driver, drive 160kmh with a real naked for 1 hour and give a review 😂. your bike has some kind of wind protection even without the shield 😉.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Indeed, but after 100 Km/h the buffeting becomes quite high 😉

    • @gumpertapollo97
      @gumpertapollo97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@IdealBike yep i hate it to drive 120+ even for just 15min.

  • @Arvy111
    @Arvy111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video. Thank you

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you 👍

  • @VinceVideo53
    @VinceVideo53 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for your video. I'll just keep my stock one on since I almost always ride at 100 k or above.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats right Vance, no need to change it. Except the highways and speeds over 100 Km/h. Thanks for the comment, greetings !

  • @FranticGuitar88
    @FranticGuitar88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Try additional screw-on deflector like Givi S180. You can set it up so it will improve buffeting and you can easily change the height on the go. You can even find identical knock-off on chinese websites for around 150€ less than original Givi.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the tip!

  • @antgee9215
    @antgee9215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Took mine off and its miles better, might just get a very low screen to tidy up the looks

  • @NalinKhurb
    @NalinKhurb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great investigation

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Appreciate it ! Thanks!

  • @Sean-yk2cf
    @Sean-yk2cf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    have you noticed that your voice raised a lot while you had higher pressure on your helmet. lol

  • @breandanwheeler5267
    @breandanwheeler5267 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review! Any issues with the handguards hitting the windshield?

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      None, they fit perfect !

  • @rider6.0
    @rider6.0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No windshield for the win!

  • @bryanhatch6688
    @bryanhatch6688 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All fun and games till the truck in front of you kicks up a rock

  • @amir12184
    @amir12184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If 100 km/h wind is too much for you, don't go the naked way.

  • @alexandercoll4863
    @alexandercoll4863 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I HATE windshields, I rather take the clean airflow. Windshields make it feel like some one is using my helmet as a drum. I’d need to get a crazy tall windscreen but honestly after a while you cannot feel the wind. My first time doing 100kmph felt like I was in a hurricane then I got used to it and don’t even feel wind now .

  • @ReneMongeau1
    @ReneMongeau1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Some helmets have a deflector! That is good if you don’t have some rain.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the tip!

  • @emotran
    @emotran 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “You can’t ride at 130 with out windshield..” mind wile the Ducati street fighter bro, changing to second at 130kph..

  • @kiwitownmowing6798
    @kiwitownmowing6798 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every windshield I've put on has caused more problems than they solve

  • @mauti8550
    @mauti8550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video!

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Greetings! 👍🏍

  • @moastreet
    @moastreet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welcome to "naked experience" 😅

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hehe, you can say that indeed

  • @aGentleUser
    @aGentleUser 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lol i ride 750s which has nearly no windshield and i do not feel a need of a shield below 120, rain does not create any pressure. I am just curious if the windshield has some influence on windy days...

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi there, for me it was a pressure starting from 110, this was comparing both OEM with Puig. With Puig it was OK even at 185. My height its 1,80m. Greetings.

    • @aGentleUser
      @aGentleUser 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@IdealBike good point is i am just 170 :D
      It depends also a lot on clothes. My autumn outfit which is wider and has more neck protection is definitively causing more resistance. My lacking windshield usually does not bother me. All my touring does not include transit on highway currently, But for visiting more distant areas, like romania ;), going over autobahn maybe a shield would make it more comfortable.
      I have to confess I ve never riden a bike with a windshield so far. Riding a street triple was already strange because the lamp is not mounted on the forks :D

    • @wolfgangdeuschle8123
      @wolfgangdeuschle8123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@aGentleUser I think it's because also of a more upright seating position at the NC750XD. I'm also only 170cm 'short' but I added 25mm bar risers to my NanCy. For me it's a very convenient / perfect riding / cruising.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aGentleUser I appreciate your comment! This test also oppened my eyes a little bit. Just to tell you a short story from my experience as a begginer rider: before the first exit on a Highway I was more then happy with OEM windshield and my old openface helmet. After I entered on the Highway it was a complete shock 😁 - the wind comming from all directions and made the trip on the Highway very exhausting. After the touring windshield and a full face helmet it was a relief. Considering that I travel a lot outside the city these are a must.
      But for someone riding in the city lets face it...you can make it 👍🏍

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wolfgangdeuschle8123 please let us know if by installing you bar risers you had to remove that center part from the habdlebar with Honda writen on it...this was one of the reasons I didn't installed a riser - I wanted to keep that Honda logo in the middle 😁 Looking forward for your answer, Greetings!

  • @Kotius_
    @Kotius_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    English speaking Romanian youtuber, nice

  • @donderstorm1845
    @donderstorm1845 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    no protection from wind and bugs i understand, but rocks? there are no rocks flying from the ground.

    • @fuglbird
      @fuglbird 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Try driving in Norway!

  • @rocketboyjv5474
    @rocketboyjv5474 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    why are all the windscreens in europe so fuckin massive

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed, that's how they've tested them to be wind efficient

  • @judge831
    @judge831 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think all motorcycles look better without windshields. I've head almost all windshields cause buffeting to some degree, and for people over 5' 10", your helmet is still completely exposed. I'm 6' tall, so a windshield will probably not work for me unfortunately.

  • @normanstassen6424
    @normanstassen6424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for your video. I recently bought an Nc 750x dct (2017). I would like to change my windshield because we live out in the country side with great distances between towns. Thus lots of high way riding. Could you please share with me the details of your windshield. I would like to see if I can get it in South Africa.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's Puig Touring Smoke, you can easily find it on-line

  • @rochewijnaar5374
    @rochewijnaar5374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hi did anyone ever tell you your front tire is on backwards ? will make a big difference on wet roads

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I doubt about it, how do you noticed that? Greetings! PS: rechecked they are 100% ok, just remembered I've asked at that time the dealer it was also my first impression that they are backwards. But they were not 100% guarantee.

    • @rochewijnaar5374
      @rochewijnaar5374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IdealBike hmmm thats weird , most of the time , if you stand in front of the bike , the grip cut-outs of the tire should be pointing downwards, there are some TH-cam clips about water wading

  • @MujoNovak
    @MujoNovak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:00 on their presentation they "forget" to show buffeting in your back neck!

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes they did 😂

  • @monokheros5373
    @monokheros5373 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    best answer... Helmet no windshield vs Windshield no Helmet
    Road King 105mph/169kph Helmet no Windshield
    sports bikes... watch motoGP
    rain no rain does not matter IF you have a helmet if you dont care what your face looks like the rest of you life that is a personal decision

  • @deifi8390
    @deifi8390 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You don't like wind?
    Well, take the bus :-)

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😁 A faster Bus it's needed to keep up the speeds ! Wind it's ok, but what about the rocks and flies? 🐝🦋🐲🐞

  • @giuseppefoto
    @giuseppefoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where is the test with the Puig windscreen?
    You only show riding with no one.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello Giuseppe! This it's actually more a no windscreen test, I've compared it with the Puig windscreen feedback. This actually makes a big difference on speeds above 100 Km/h. Greetings!

    • @giuseppefoto
      @giuseppefoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IdealBike I have ordered a Givi 4114st for my Versys 650 (2016) because I am tall, 1'86m. I am waiting for try it. I hope I will enjoy the difference.

  • @vukasinmilutinovic6433
    @vukasinmilutinovic6433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, i want to buy this windshield form my NC and i wanted to know how tall are you and where the buffering hits you?
    Thank you

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello, I am 1,80m and the buffeting it's deflected over the shoulders and middle of the helmet. The chest it's mostly protected. Hope that helps, greetings!

  • @c0uchsl0uch
    @c0uchsl0uch ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone know if this puig will fit the Z400 ❓

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is somehow universal from my research, it fits on many bikes.

  • @LeoinFrance
    @LeoinFrance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't get it, doesn't the windshield make the pressure higher on your helmet since it reflects the wind directly to your helmet?

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The windshield deflects the wind almost completely over the helmet, just the higher part of the helmet it's affected. I am 1,80m tall, so a person under 1,80 m will not feel much wind on the helmet. Hope that helps. Greetings!

  • @Checkpat
    @Checkpat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So... ride with a windshield is better than without one 😶
    Just kidding 🙂 Nice video, hope you will reach 1 000 suscribers 👍

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hehe, in the city without it's better 😁. Thank you for supporting! 🔝🏍🤗

  • @danielmak33
    @danielmak33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simple aerodynamics

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi there, thanks for comment, hope it was a usefull video for you. Greetings !

  • @ssrian7276
    @ssrian7276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Which bike you are using?

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honda NC750X DCT 2019

    • @ssrian7276
      @ssrian7276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@IdealBike
      Is it available in India?

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't have this information, perhaps someone from the community could answer to this question, greetings!

    • @ssrian7276
      @ssrian7276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IdealBike
      What's the top speed?

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      199 km /h

  • @RyoBLN
    @RyoBLN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about wind noise ? ;)

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Until 100 Km/h its pretty decent.

  • @demiangarcia-monroy2564
    @demiangarcia-monroy2564 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video however you got it all wrong with the windshield and drag. Windshields reduce drag and improve performance and fuel economy.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello, thanks for the comment. After 62,000 with the Touring Windshield I can say that it brings more bufferting and has no impact on fuel consumption.

  • @_STEEL_FEELINGS_
    @_STEEL_FEELINGS_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Нужно было еще больше раз повторить один и тот же текст.

  • @editupa
    @editupa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For me, Puig Touring+ 9 cm deflector extension it is enough for comfort

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's for sure!

  • @patrickdecambra2219
    @patrickdecambra2219 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I put a larger than stock windshield on my bike it helped a lot. But it has a large displacement I don't notice any difference.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing, greetings !

  • @ovnprojects2640
    @ovnprojects2640 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, how was the wind noize with between the three windscreens?

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Puig and Givi are quite OK, I honestly prefer the Puig, it's the perfect considering that it fits with Barkbusters handguards. Givi doesn't fit with Barkbusters. Greetings!

  • @RobertSmith-bh5cv
    @RobertSmith-bh5cv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've had concussions in the past and have some lingering issues. So I can't ride with most windshields - the buffeting bothers me too much. However, I'm very interested in this bike. Is the buffeting and noise significantly lower without the windshield? I'm almost always travelling at less than 100km/h.

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, under 90 Km/h - max 100 Km/h the wind noise it's significantly reduced.

  • @Balunliinfi
    @Balunliinfi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    but the Fatigue in long time

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, Totally. As I said in the video, I can see this option only for the city, where the speeds are much under 80 Km /h.

    • @Balunliinfi
      @Balunliinfi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IdealBike yup you said it on point nice video

  • @EngSheng
    @EngSheng 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Windshield are require to comfortable riding

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's true! Thanks for the comment! 👍

  • @expertu
    @expertu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have to ask, do you wear some kind of neck cover in this test ? ... I mean, in Craiova its -1 ... -3 degrees ... I'm getting chills just watching you ... 🙂

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Mihai, I am using thermo t-shirt undeneath and a very good jacket with higher collar: Wellensteyn model Leuchtfeuer
      www.dealbunny.de/b741b984/deal-images/xHZ-qoMpSQ-I-mZ5ry0V5w/wellensteyn-leuchtfeuer-jacke.jpg
      Thanks for asking! 😁

  • @Thrissur2022
    @Thrissur2022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi bro....will windshield decreases mileage of bike?????..am experiencing it..

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello! After 24,000 Km I can say that it doesn't. Use it with confidence. In my test it was slightly downhill, with the OEM shield only 0,1% less fuel consumption. Greetings!

    • @Thrissur2022
      @Thrissur2022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IdealBike thanks

    • @IdealBike
      @IdealBike  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem, all the best! 👍