The upper is definite more comfortable and breathable than the 4. However, the new heel implantation on the 5 is a nightmare. For every run, I need to re-lace and pull hard on the lace to get a proper lock down. The 4 has a more noticeable rocker geometry and offers better foot protection from the trail. The 5 feel flat and lower down to the ground because Hoka has swapped out for a thinner insole. I do not favour the minor update on its outsole. It feels as if the speedgoat has lost some of its bite.
Thanks for the review. I would love to love the SG5 but the ankle collar is so high that when the terrain becomes steep, off-camber or very technical, it eats my malleolus. The discomfort is so important that I cannot use them for the long mountainous runs I was foreseeing. But if these fit your feet I am convinced they are fantastic to run.
I have the same problem with my SG5. I have to tight the lances quite tight to prevent it bump into my malleolus. But because the lances are tight, the top of foot gets eaten up by the lances. I only use them for my 20km trail runs. For longer runs, I would wear my trusty SG4 as the ankle collar is lower and the upper is better at preventing water/rocks getting into the shoe.
Shoe has almost no padding in the tongue. Also, the sole is very frail and designed to break and fray. A truly wonderful design with planned obsolescence.
Did any of you suffer heel slippage. I got mine today but the heel slips unless I heel lock that I don’t particularly like as it seems to add more pressure on the top of my foot.
As a classic Salomon firm ride for technical terrain i've never been a fan of Mushy Hokas. Too soft for my liking and that plain EVA midsole packs up way too quickly....
I've ran over 800km in both the EVO Mafate 1 as well as the EVO Speedgoat. The S/Lab Ultra 1 I had to throw away after 550km (and lots of hills) because it was just a a hard brick and my knees started to hurt ... And the Hokas might be soft but they are also springy...
I twisted my ankle badly with speedgoat 4. It's lacking in stability in super technical terrain like on uneven rocky surfaces. I wonder about the speedgoat 5. Is the stability better?
Also, "not twisting your ankle" is far more dependent on the environment and mainly your proprioceptive skills than the shoe. If you blame a shoe for twisting your ankle, you'll never find a shoe that does the job for you
IF HOKA could offer a GORE-TEX version of htis shoe....and "winter tire tread".....as there are runners who run during the winter months ...or through the wet...as well..
So disappointed with this shoe. It gives zero grip on surfaces that are even slightly wet or sandy. If you running on technical trails like me, please avoid the speedgoat 5.
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The upper is definite more comfortable and breathable than the 4. However, the new heel implantation on the 5 is a nightmare. For every run, I need to re-lace and pull hard on the lace to get a proper lock down. The 4 has a more noticeable rocker geometry and offers better foot protection from the trail. The 5 feel flat and lower down to the ground because Hoka has swapped out for a thinner insole. I do not favour the minor update on its outsole. It feels as if the speedgoat has lost some of its bite.
Did you say 70 marathons in 70 days?! Wow, I’ll take a pair of those. Awesome effort
Thanks for the review. I would love to love the SG5 but the ankle collar is so high that when the terrain becomes steep, off-camber or very technical, it eats my malleolus. The discomfort is so important that I cannot use them for the long mountainous runs I was foreseeing. But if these fit your feet I am convinced they are fantastic to run.
Same issue. On heavily off cancer stuff, it is painful. For everything else I love it.
Similar ankle issues at first but now after about 30 miles in the shoe I don’t notice it anymore
I have the same problem with my SG5. I have to tight the lances quite tight to prevent it bump into my malleolus. But because the lances are tight, the top of foot gets eaten up by the lances. I only use them for my 20km trail runs. For longer runs, I would wear my trusty SG4 as the ankle collar is lower and the upper is better at preventing water/rocks getting into the shoe.
Darn good shoe and works as well as a Swiss Army Knife. A Fine shoe that has been improved.
A speedgoat 5 vs tecton x video would be great!
Thanks for this review, very useful!
Would this be a good shoe if your typical running route is 50-50 road and trail?
How does the Speedgoat compare to the Challenger?
Shoe has almost no padding in the tongue. Also, the sole is very frail and designed to break and fray. A truly wonderful design with planned obsolescence.
How would you compaare these to the Salomon Ultra Gluide
Did any of you suffer heel slippage. I got mine today but the heel slips unless I heel lock that I don’t particularly like as it seems to add more pressure on the top of my foot.
Any thoughts on this compared to Saucony Xodus Ultra?
Waiting for the wide 2E variant to arrive here 🇵🇭
How did the wide version perform for you?
@@bilaltahir9978 no available wide variant here. Been requesting for it since.
@@LifeInTheLongRun yeah they’re lacking in wide, funny enough here in America this is one of two hiking shoes carried in EE.
would this be a good option for a 50km race gents?
How does this compare to the asics trabuco or trabuco max ?
Is this shoe ok for a mild overpronator ?
This or the tecton x for running on buffed out trails?
From those that have this any input on how well the SG5 drains water. I would be using on on Spartan OCR races and there will be water to go though.
You'll be fine. They drain well. 👍
As a classic Salomon firm ride for technical terrain i've never been a fan of Mushy Hokas. Too soft for my liking and that plain EVA midsole packs up way too quickly....
I've ran over 800km in both the EVO Mafate 1 as well as the EVO Speedgoat. The S/Lab Ultra 1 I had to throw away after 550km (and lots of hills) because it was just a a hard brick and my knees started to hurt ...
And the Hokas might be soft but they are also springy...
@@bikeinmotion To be fair the S/Lab Ultra 1 was the worst Salomon shoe ever made IMHO.
I twisted my ankle badly with speedgoat 4. It's lacking in stability in super technical terrain like on uneven rocky surfaces.
I wonder about the speedgoat 5. Is the stability better?
Answer is no. You better on buying torrent or zinal
Thank you for your advice. I appreciate it very much.
Also, "not twisting your ankle" is far more dependent on the environment and mainly your proprioceptive skills than the shoe. If you blame a shoe for twisting your ankle, you'll never find a shoe that does the job for you
IF HOKA could offer a GORE-TEX version of htis shoe....and "winter tire tread".....as there are runners who run during the winter months ...or through the wet...as well..
Th SG4 Goretex was a little disappointing. Heavier, upper felt very inflexible.
Yes a very good shoe, but for me to be a avoided if running routes have contoured landscape and your running on a slant.
Hello non native speaker here why say “kinda of” “sort of” so much. With what meaning? I am learning sorry for that.
So disappointed with this shoe. It gives zero grip on surfaces that are even slightly wet or sandy. If you running on technical trails like me, please avoid the speedgoat 5.
Jeez really ? And I thought it was meant to be one of the best traction shoes out there