The Lyricists Adda | Swanand Kirkire, Amitabh Bhattacharya, Varun Grover, Anvita Dutt, Kausar Munir
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- On the first Film Companion Artists Adda, we get some of the country's most talented lyricists - Swanand Kirkire, Amitabh Bhattacharya, Varun Grover, Anvita Dutt, and Kausar Munir - to chat about their process, the challenges they face as a tribe and what the future of the Hindi film song looks like.
#VarunGrover #SwanandKirkire #AmitabhBhattacharya #AnvitaDutt #KausarMunir
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1:03 - Writing 816 songs
2:07 - Utilizing the time in lockdown for writing good lyrics
5:13 - Amitabh Bhattacharya on his process of writing a song
6:18 - Swanand Kirkire on his process of writing a song
7:45 - Kausar Munir on working with the people involved in a project and still to deliver the best
9:24 - Varun Grover on working with people who understand poetry
11:00 - Swanand Kirkire on playing the same 'antara' to two people
11:09 - Amitabh Bhattacharya on being technicians than artists or poets
12:40 - Varun Grover on giving multiple choices of songs to directors & composers
14:47 - Swanand Kirkire on simplifying the process of lyrics writing
16:23 - Kausar Munir on working with Pritam
17:17 - Amitabh Bhattacharya on end credits songs, on Agneepath and Agent Vinod
19:36 - On 'Tehzeeb' getting lesser in today's songs, changes in today's society & songs
22:27 - Swanand Kirkire on lyrics finding a new language
23:05 - Varun Grover on meeting a producer & director who asked to write lyrics in 30 minutes
26:17 - Anvita Dutt on item songs to be not called an item song
28:34 - Amitabh Bhattacharya on becoming a lyric writer reluctantly and about Chikni Chameli
30:54 - Anvita Dutt on being commissioned lyric writers
31:26 - Swanand Kirkire on writing 'Kaisi Paheli Zindagani'
32:02 - Varun Grover on music companies not giving credit to lyric writers on music platforms
34:22 - Swanand Kirkire on algorithm of lyric writers of songs on music apps
35:00 - Kausar Munir on lyric writer names missing on the song launch
35:29 - Swanand Kirkire on his name missing from Helicopter Eela's trailer end plate
36:57 - Amitabh Bhattacharya on not knowing lyric writers names
37:27 - Anupama Chopra on Indian songs and music
38:01 - Varun Grover on the hierarchy system in the Hindi Film Industry
40:30 - Kausar Munir on production houses forgetting to invite lyricists for music functions
41:52 - Swanand Kirkire on lyric writers not given the credit
42:56 - Kausar Munir on people think of her as a male lyricist duo
43:35 - Anvita Dutt on Naghma Nigaar and helping each other as writers
45:14 - Swanand Kirkire on Anvita's film Bulbbul not having songs
46:23 - Swanand Kirkire on new directors not being comfortable with lip-sync songs
48:09 - Varun Grover on independent songs & songs in films
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Lovely
Please bring other adda also... Costume designer adda, cinemetogrpaher addaa.. animators addaa.. we would like to hear their stories expirences and moreover learnings
👏👏👏 @ 39:00 Big Thanks & Hugs to Varun for mentioning the apathy of Editors too!
I'm sorry but even the article that you are promoting isn't doing any justice with the song writers.
mam plzz bring or make online conversations with 'bengali' actors/directors 🔥💓
love and respect 💝
Varun Grover will be in your Comedians adda, Lyric writers adda, Script writers adda and what not. What a guy!!
So freaking true
He's amazing
I wish Irshad Kamil was in the panel too.. Love his poetry
Me too. I love his work in rockstar.
And Piyush Mishra
Nadaan Parindey ♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
Ha yarr, but I'm sure film companion ne unhe reach out kiya hoga
Wo gulzar saab, jaaved saab, prasoon Joshi k saath aane chahiye
These people together created the world of Qala, the best music album to come out of bollywood in several years. Respect🙌🙌🙌
I want more lyricists' adda.
Im the one who always search who has written this song.
Yes. I can't imagine not knowing who is the person behind the beautiful words that have awed me or touched me.
I agree. Every time I listen to a good song with meaningful lyrics, I look up the name of the lyricist. Again, same with shitty lyrics😅
Me too. I wish they added Irshad Kamil , Gulzar saab, Javed saab.
Me too 😂
Exactly bro
This channel is a gold-mine for someone like me who is passionate about cinema and all its aspects, especially Hindi cinema. Thank you FC, and keep doing what you do!
You said what i was about to write!
Totally agree !!
Aye aye
So true
I see varun Grover, I click to play! 😊❣️
Same here
Same here
He is a bit rude saying "mere paas aur b kaam h"
@Akash Akks watch 09:40
@@tulasiramacharya1076 or just honest
There's one music director Amaal Malik, who always gives credit to even the person who was on piano or anything. Whether it's in his ain't post oR music, he always gives brief names of every person who's worked in that song. HATS OFF!!
Yes that's why we love amaal Mallik
Film companion is always full of surprises .Uploads a video at 9am Monday Morning .wow and that too with the people we least expect 'THE LYRICISTS'❤❤This is why i love film companion .
As a person who gets moved the most by the lyrics while listening to a song, I identify, follow and value these people a lot. Thank you so much Film Companion for bringing these gems together. It was a treat to watch.
After getting drowned in qala album, how could I miss this adda.
For me, words have to make sense. Then comes music, then singer, and then picturisation. Song writers/ lyricists deserve all the applause esp ones present n past who written sensible songs.
2 years ago in writers adda Varun mentioned that in eros channel they don't give credit to the lyricist in their TH-cam description, he gave example of Ranjhana. If you visit now still the lyricist Irshad Kamil's name is not mentioned. Sad
I hate Eros channel.
Do they still have that Salman Khan ad?
Bro you can’t fit everything in the title or description. Some people try to find the song by the name of the actor or director or music director & mostly singer. Lyricists hardly matter these days, most of the songs are bad & auto tune singers can make anything sound catchy so who cares about the lyrics ?
@@shadowsmessage I don't agree with that. Knowing a lyricist as an audience maybe it will be not so important but it's important to the lyricist itself. He should get his credit for his work. Just imagine your work in a job got no recognition and you are slogging daily, it's like that. And check out zee music TH-cam channel they give credit to everyone associated with one song. It's not that time consuming to give someone there due.
@@shadowsmessageit's your perception... Everyone related to a song must get their credits.
FC, I can't adequately express how glad I am that this chat happened. Lyricists are simply not credited/acknowledged enough in the industry. It's too damn unfair. And this lot rocks!! Wish Irshad Kamil and Prasoon Joshi were here too.
It is important for interviewers to be good listeners and good communicators and Anupama, you do that consistently well. I love all your interviews, sometimes even when you're interviewing people I haven't heard of! Keep it up!
There has to be another one with Javed Akhtar, Gulzar, Sameer, Irshad Kamil
Sameer , Mehboob, Sayeed quadri Sirs too
Irshadsaab should have been there one felt. And lot of respect for Kirkiresaab. He has such a simple yet profound way of looking at things. He’s very underrated as a creative. Nice perspective overall. Hope this extends to other technicians like editors, cinematographers, sound engineers, etc.
He is at the level of Gulzar and Javed akhtar
This is pure Gold. Could hear them speaking for hours because we get to see/listen to them so often.
Thank you so much FC
Wow! All my favorite lyricists are here! Was waiting for this for a very long time!
Amitabh B. ( Manmarziya/Lootera, Naav/Udaan, DevD)
Swanand K. (Dhak Dhu/ English Vinglish)
Varun G. (Masaan, Gangs of Wasseypur)
Anvita D. (Kinare/Queen)
Kausar M. (Secret Superstar)
Most of these are amit Trivedi compositions
@@riddhimatangri1309 Oh yes! Amit Trivedi is my favourite composer and Trivedi + Bhattacharya is an epic pair!
Irshad Kamil two album are enough for defeating all Rockstar and AASHIQUI 2
Music is such a rocket science for me, I have no clue how it happens its like magic. Lyrics is the most important part for me to like a song and the way it complements with the music just blows me away. I have created a playlist of my fav songs on youtube its called Nona Prince Music
I consciously look for lyricist's name in a song. Lyricists are probably the most important part of a song. Because most of the time it's only the lyrics that stay with you for a long time. They should be given their due recognition.
I wish to see the lyricist-Music director duos.
Like Gulzar-Vishal
Irshad-Pritam, Irshad-ARR
Shelly-Amit Trivedi
Swanand Kirkire-Amit Trivedi
Amitab-Pritam
I would love to see it.
This is great FC! Taking it up a notch
This is really worth a watch! ❤️🙌💯
I so wanted to see this since very long time. I have a huge respect for all the Lyricists❤️🎵
And yes, Aakashwani/Vividh Bharti still announces the name of the Lyricist everytime, and I really appreciate it! :)
More power to everyone in this conversation!😊🎵🙏
Phew..FC doing one up to FC's own content. Last week it was FF, now it's these gems. Thank you.
Anupama,
A song is mainly a creative effort of the music director, lyricist & the singer. It's almost like asking for the moon. But please try to do a chat show with two triumvirates
Javed saab-Shankar Mahadevan- Sonu nigam and
Gulzaar-Vishal Bhardwaj- Sukhwinder singh, together.
Anyone agrees?
Yes.. it should be...
Also, Irshad-AR Rahman-Mohit Chauhan
LOVED IT! We need more such discussions with composers/lyricists/technicians etc.
Thank you so much @Filmcompanion for bringing lyricist on your platform.
Request you to do in depth interviews with each one of them.
Also missed Irshad kamil here.
what an interview. As a audience it opened my eyes.
It's so refreshing to see you highlighting the hardwork, talent and unrequited love affair of these artisans in films. Hindhi films are always made a memoir by their music and these are the artists behind that art. Thank you for recognizing them.
Screenplay Writers & Lyricists are the Creators of the Film Story & Songs...the Soul of a Movie.
High Time that Due Credit is Given to these Creators.
It is so heartening to see that FC is giving these incredible artists their due.
It is things like this that makes FC such a brilliant and refreshing platform for everything related to movies.
More power to you! :)
Three geniuses are missing in this panel Manoj muntashir, Irshad Kamil and Kumar vishwas.
Dude kumar doesnot belong in this but yes Manoj and Irshad Kamil are missing.
@@shashishekhar---- dude for ur kind information he has written a song for a bollywood movie and he deserves to be in this panel because he is a poet with deep hindi knowledge
Instead of Mr vishwas, i wish to see Neelesh Mishra ji.
@@Arijitianforeverr it means you are unaware about Kumar writing skills
@@HUMSAFAR_SSC may be yes.
LOVE this so so much. Content like this is why I love Film Companion. And appreciated the discussion on the lack of Lyricist credits. That really needs to change and I think lovers of the music on TH-cam can make a difference by commenting everywhere its missing.
Guys you all are the hidden superstar. Everyone should know about your work and credit should be given to you all. Hats off
Amitabh and Irshad l love them both a lot ♥️♥️
Thank you to all who continue help make a film/song to what it is even when you are not mentioned and appreciated. Your talent is special and means so much to us. You help us escape from the realities of this world and allow us to exist in worlds inside our minds.. and even inspire us to create our own...
A one-on-one interview with Varun Grover, please
Kudos to FC for acknowledging people who've long been relegated to invisibility in Hindi cinema. Great work, Anupama and team! You're definitely leading the way for such pertinent discussions today.
Amitabh Bhattacharya is a force to reckon with. He is one of the best lyricist of recent times. My personal fvrt of all times in last decade.
Same
thank you....for realizing that one song has different hardworks. singers,composers,lyricist we need more voice and discussions
Music Industry Should Rise Independently Like Film Industry 👍
This has probably been one of my favorite film companion videos. Kudos to everyone on there. Want to say that even if the composers remember or not, we as an audience are always looking for the writers of the beautiful lyrics in songs we listen to :)
Cries in Irshad Kamil 🥺
What Swanand said about the radio - that's so important. A lot of this change can happen if we as listeners start caring about the names of lyricists and radio still has a large part to play in that. Private radio stations NEVER mention the composers and lyricists, seldom mention the singers. All India Radio has still managed to hold onto this ritual somehow.
Amitabh bhattacharya love you 🤗🤗 there should be irshad sir also 😑
We love love absolutely loved love hindi movie songs, so can't fathom movies without them! And thank you for putting up such an lyrical lyricists "adda"!!
Loving this format! Do one with music composers as well 😁
Such a brilliant show.
I think it's about time for the people who give voice to our characters come to forefront
Good to see the Change in Stance, now start Interviewing All Singers, Writers, Choreographers too. So that people can know them.
Arrey yar....sunday ko upload kro na...I would've watched this sipping tea in a cold room with rain outside.
The good thing is this will be right here waiting for you to watch next Sunday! ;)
@@FilmCompanionStudios Lol. :xD .Yes. But I've got an exam the following Monday. Never mind, I'll always make time for good stuff. This is zen therapy.
@@FilmCompanionStudios Wow! You do know what he meant right?
One of the best interactions.. just loved it.. thanks!
I always make sure to see the singer, composer and lyricist names of songs.
What immense fun it was to listen to all of them. At the start I did feel the conversation was a bit not in the flow but after Anvita, it all felt way more organic. It's sad that lyricist don't get their due and it is because many think it's just a small part. The argument put by Swanand that in OTT platform we aren't getting those songs anywhere it's so true. I so much want netflix to release Sacred Games' songs shout out to Rajeshwari Dasgupta for Dhuan Dhuan my favourite song.
Itne adbut artist ek hi adde pe... Awesome...
Loved every bit of this chat.. it reminded me.of.a.similar chat with composers some time ago.. music is incomplete without words and lyrics writers are way too important to be ignored.
Vivid bharati (radio channel) has always mentioned the lyricist's name. Coz of that even as a young girl I could identify the style of writing of the different lyricists.
The more "modern" radio jockeys don't always mention their name, which is frustrating as a listener.
So glad that video was brought out. ❤️🙏
Varun: 4:18, 9:26, 12:59, 21:15, 24:15, 38:19, 48:10
HOF: 19:55, 30:23, 32:03, 33:16
Honestly I'll be revisiting only for Varun, so I'm not disregarding rest but saving my time.
You're welcome :)
I was searching this🙏
Thanks
This entire session is so enriching. As an upcoming lyricist. Bohot accha laga.
These people are so underrated.
Beautiful chat. Thank you FC for bringing joy to us. I wish there was a more detailed & technical discussion on their work. Like a word-to-word or line-to-line review of some of their best crafted songs. For those who would be interested in such exercise, I recommend a book ‘JIYA JALE - THE STORIES OF SONGS’ ft. Gulzar by Nasreen Munni Kabir. Must read!!!
After watching every film's trailer, i always look out in the credits regarding who has written the lyrics and who is the music director!!!
I now want composers adda again. It's been a long while
What a session! This has undoubtedly been one of the more enriching conversations around the world of cinema and the importance of lyrics in that universe. Absolute delight to hear all of them talk so freely, and kudos to the chiseled questions. Loved it.
*Please* talk more about lyrics and words and continue this in some fashion.
Thank you for making this video.
We hope all artists that work so hard to give us amazing lyrics get the credits they deserve!!
This is such a good interview. Profound. And all of them are so well behaved. They listen to each other talking unlike actors who are always cutting each other all the time..
I"m in love with Varun Grover and his explanations. My favourite part was that where everyone was praising Amitabh Bhattacharya. It was my fav. line from the song Kajra Re too.
Aankhen bhi sawal karti hain, Personal se sawal karti hain... Sliding to that song right now.
It is written by Gulzar saahb
@@prashant5may Yes, now i knew.. I don't know why i thought they were praising amitabh for these lines..😊
@@NehaPandey-hn3bs they were praising amitabh for writing dance number..then topic went to how some dance numbers are not 'item songs', there came 'beedi jalayele'..😊
Thanks Anupama - more interviews with these super talented folks is warranted... love to hear from them!
*_Read Complete Comment to Understand The Issue:_*
Musicians (Composers, Vocalists, Lyricists, Music Producers etc.) are underrated specially in Hindi Film Industry aka Bollywood. Regional industries which, many times, produce better content driven films always credit musicians. Nowadays all musicians all facing different types of problems in the industry.
*There are some points (bitter & true) which need to be noted. Everything is public domain. You can easily cross-check:*
1) It's duty of viewers & audience to stop star culture & system. Everybody whoever have contributed to particular song or scene is STAR.
*2) They are multiple ways to credit musicians but non-creative people who basically control music always avoid to credit musicians.* ⤵️
• Show their names in song videos at the beginning & ending.
• Mention their names in song thumbnail & poster, press releases etc.
• All musicians including lyricists must get artist status in every audio music streaming platforms.
• *Release tracklists with credits* , Organise Music Launch events & invite all musicians & media.
• Tagging actors in song videos (easily searchable) is more than enough instead of naming all of them on TH-cam title to give space for musicians. They are already on thumbnail.
3) Most of the times music companies make excuses that they can't write name of all musicians due to character limit but they will write name of actors (& actresses) who are not even featured in particular song. Many times they only write name of actors only.
4) Viewers only know actors by their face & they are everywhere on e.g. Movie Thumbnail, Song Thumbnail, Social Media, Print & Electronic Media etc. Rest of all creative people must be mentioned wherever they have contributed.
5) Nowadays new age actors have attitude to discredit hidden stars of the craft. They don't even mention legendary musicians in their social media posts.
6) Digital & Print media need to realise their duty. They write music review in headline but write more about movie & actors without mentioning all musicians. Sometimes people who, don't have any knowledge of music & poetry, write music review on the basis of digital hits. It happens many times. *What can be more shameful when RJs of FM Radio Channels will mention only actors instead of musicians while playing audio for audience?*
7) All musicians must mention, appreciate & support each other for their music.
Good interview .
it’s really unfortunate that lyric writers are not been given due respect and credit for their hard work .
That's True = that without a Music, we don't know how to celebrate our Festival or How to express our Feelings too. So thank you so much Lyricists 👍🏻🙏🏻✌🏻
It is become a fashion to show the world that I have good taste, well we know how good these lyricists are and I love them but some comments are like oh I love only these guys and I am sure they look down upon other lyrists. Having good taste is good but showing off makes a person look so pathetic.
Chalo punjab me to credit milta h title me bhi or song me bhi
Jaani 🔥🔥🔥
This is for Film Companion. I believe that when you are showing the name and work of a particular artist so many times, you can mention their different work everytime. These are great artists having done copious great work. Just a suggestion from a fan of your channel and bollywood.
Thanks a lot for mentioning Anand Bakshi. He is my most favourite lyricist of all time.
Love from Nepal. I hardly miss any episode .😍😍Being film buff, I try to keep close tab on Indian cinemas too...
Really enjoy the FC adda series, eagerly waiting for more of these 😬🤗
We barely see writers gathering . Thanks film companion for doing so.😀
Tqsm anupama ji
Waiting to watch more artists at your adda(FC)
Paused the video to listen to kajrare. What a delightful song.😍
It is so striking that they are not talking about INDEPENDENT song/audio industry, which is too weak in Bollywood. But Hollywood is there without songs and since century!
A message for the lyricists,
It's true that lyricists are not mentioned many time along with their songs. I think one thing they can do is make some independent music and promote each other's work without a movie context. These lyricists are already very good friends so it would be easy for them to promote each other. And at this time of internet where anything can go viral, the songs of these beautiful writers will surely gain audience and without any movie references. They will be searched and shared more because it would be their own independent songs or albums. Once they gain their independent fan base or audience, the film makers will be more drawn towards showcasing their names. For example every time a bond movie theme is made it's publicised in the name of the song maker because they are popular names themselves!
I love varun... nice interview 😍
Good interview 👍 and I am happy to acknowledge fact that I do search for lyricist name which have beautiful lyrics😃
I have checked wynk app where I found song can found on Lyricist.
First interview I saw where Varun is not the most articulate person in the chat.
I think, "rang barse" from Silsila was missed being acknowledged being best lyrics that tells the story along with taking the story forward. Talking about item songs ( which are intended to bring pepiness) it is still go to song on Holi....
Anvita's khuda jaane's lyrics were best ❤️❤️❤️
Please do Editors Adda also they are criminally underrated in the film making process.
Next choreographers adda... We don't now the choreographers of major songs.. for eg: bumbro ka kon h?
I know the lyricists are best identified by their most popular songs but many of them have written brilliant lyrics for songs that did not go on to become big hits or even hit songs where the lyrics went unnoticed. I am thinking right now of Amitabh's adaptation of Bari Barsi for Band Baaja Baraat and Varun Grover's Bahut Khoob for Gangs 2.
Mai har wo gana jo dil se pasnd aajata hai wo googl epe jake sbse pehle dhundta hu
People from our generation are very much interested in getting to know the names of the lyricists along with others.I hope this culture of ignorance changes and lyricists are given their due credits respectfully.Also,then we will not have to google search the names.
whenever i listen a song i always search for lyricist name..but sadly i always have to google it ...they just don't mention it in description
All my favs came together for an interview 👏👌🤘👍
Please bring composers and singers to talk about powerplay in the music industry. We hear stories coming out like mushrooms but a concise discussion would be good.
Varun Grover fans😍😍
दोस्तों ये विडियो देखिये उम्मीद करता हूँ आपको पसंद आयेंगी
th-cam.com/video/io5ksO5vD2k/w-d-xo.html
Film Companion team, I love you for this. Seriously! ❤
CAN WE HAVE UNEDITED VERSIONS ...
Long overdue!! Next please talk to the writers who makes our films so good!!
Nice , we want more lyricist on this adda 💝💝