Robbie Hagberg and Sue Hagberg I think you can get it tomorrow and I can go to the store and get it tomorrow and let you know when you get home around 5 00 to the store and I can go back to the store and get the rest and I can go to Walmart and get it tomorrow morning and I can't you want my phone number is that the one I can at least get i very much for the rest day
We can always rely on Matt Brown to take us somewhere we've never been before. Great piece by Matt and Geoff and full marks to the Heathrow Express, the Aston Martin of London's railways.
I took this both ways from and to Heathrow a decade ago. Actually was able to buy the ticket online before I left the US, which they recommended doing at the time. It is quite a long walk from the Heathrow terminal to the Express’s platform so I was very glad I had wheeled luggage. Nice smooth ride into London but not very scenic, as I recall. Saved a lot of money not taking a taxi, and time not sitting in traffic.
@@ygryaznov Depends where in London you're going, when I go to Heathrow I'm coming from Liverpool Street and for that there's very little or no time difference between only tube or tube then express not at all worth the huge cost difference.
@@lordsnivyofnottingham2948 It's odd though that trains built to be used in the UK aren't fitted with UK sockets. Seems lazy on the part of the manufacturer.
Got a 'watch it again' recommendation. I never realised they're basically the same trains as run between Leeds and Bradford Forster Square/Skipton/Ilkley
maybe i'm just cheap but i don't see any reason to take the heathrow express when the piccadilly line works equally well, just with quite a bit more stops of course.. the express is over 20 quid for something i could pay just over 3 quid for.. to me the savings of 15 mins vs 45 mins isn't worth 6 times the cost.. it's still around so i guess some people don't like the "scenic" route or just don't mind being gouged lol :-)
I think if you’re a businessman with a flight to catch using the company credit card, you’re less concerned about the pricing and just want to get there… :p
I used the Heathrow Express one way from Heathrow to Paddington in March for a Procol Harum gig. It was alright, a little bumpy though but they have screens on board showing latest news and stuff. My tip: buy a ticket 90 days in advance for the best deal, ticket terms are quite flexible too. Would use it again should the need arise.
+A. Tee true. you must be a train geek. Most people just want to get where they are going. But really, you want to see the inside of tunnels? that's a bit much.
I have a couple of questions. 1) Can we have a full cab ride video of the Express? 2) How exactly do the "hidden" platforms at T5 relate to the existing ones? The diagram seems to indicate that they are between the two, but the video seems to show them off to one side?
Is the Heathrow express will go from airport will extend to Windsor and Eaton anthoer branch to Gilford to cut down over crowded on South West trains it be quicker from central London?
I think they use the French E type plug in spain , tho they could have put in a german F type for the same reason why u can find variations on the BS 1363 in the uk = so not just any one can plug things in and use the power
He suggests the tunnel to the left just after entering the tunnel is the second bit of the t5 platforms but that other lit up bit is under some fields, nowhere near t5
Yes everyone knows. Also you are wrong Mister, the drive changes end at Bank! NOT Waterloo! The Waterloo and City Line has one stop, and one driver. The Heathrow Connect shuttle has 2 drivers and 2 stops. Do you even get it yet?
Rail.TrainMaster If it has one stop then it isn’t a line is it? It goes from Waterloo to Bank, with the driver changing ends at Bank, and at Waterloo the driver drives into the reversing siding, switches ends then drives into the outbound platform. Look at a tube map
But it only stops at one station on it's trip. Also If you are counting that as two stations than it would only be fair if you counted the Shuttle as 3 stops.
I guess the heathrow express isn't too happy about the arrival of the Elizabeth Line allowing decent travel times to Heathrow without being utterly ripped off!
Because the Adelante's were unreliable on the GWML, and they were relatively low in numbers. They were only designed to increase capacity, not to replace the HSTs anyway. The Class 800s and 802s are designed to replace the HSTs on the GWML, and they've been in service since October
What is the fare for this system?, here in Toronto we have to pay $19 dollars (if you have a Presto card) or $27.50 normal for our Airport Express train the Union-Pearson Express (UPX).
+SgtMays It's about £22 single. Not cheap, but it's aimed at those that would get a taxi into London. You can get the Tube for about £3 but it takes 4 times longer
+SgtMays The standard fare is what SB Trains, Planes and Drives said. However they quite often have discounts, you can actually get a ticket for £5.50 on bank holidays or £8.80 on weekends if you book in advance, both are cheaper than the Heathrow Connect service
heathrow express is soooo nice me and my took it and we were in first class for some reason but i remember not wanting to get off when we got the airport
byblis persephone Tourist from New York who paid the £37(!) to and back, can confirm. (I was jet-lagged and didn't want to ride the entire subway to the friggin Docklands, okay!?) Getting to Manhattan quickly from JFK is much cheaper over here: $15 each way using AirTrain and the LIRR (From Jamaica to Penn), and if you're willing to use the subway, it's half that. And if you're trying to get from Newark Intl to Manhattan, it's $12.50.
I think you will find that's for a book of tickets, but I agree with you that it's a rip off, for the time your on the train, I can go on 60mile round trip for a price of a oneway ticket and that's is on HS1 .....
By December 2019, using a pool of 12 Class 387's GWR fleet. Hence fleet standisation and saves money building a new depot at Langley for the 332's. Existing depot at Old Oak Common will be gone by 2020 for HS2.
Heathrow Express is a rip off! Only their trains run this route, and prices are over inflated and artificially high...nothing short of a monopoly...the tube is much cheaper
There´s also Heathrow Connect services. They are cheaper but less frequent and have a longer journey time. But there´s a reason why Heathrow Express is "expensive". It´s intended for those who otherwise would´ve taken a cab, people who just want an easy and quick service with higher comfort than the tube.
Go by train all the way to London where you're coming from or indeed where you're going to. Don't make it a 3 leg journey each way which includes the plane when you can do it in 1 or 2 legs anyway.
Sort of. When I was in London I took the tube from Heathrow to my hotel, but for the way back I was running super late I knew I could get a cab to Padington and take the Heathrow Express to catch my plane. It cost less than having to book another transatlantic flight.
Yeah but the tube is longer. TfL also runs a local service on the TfL Rail going to 1, 2, 3, & 4. Heathrow express though goes to 1, 2, 3, & 5. Also, taking a taxi can be less busy by going to the pod parking (Access to Term 5 only)
Most guards are trained to drive their trains if the driver becomes ill but this is for extreme incidents where urgent medical aid is needed - heart attacks however doesn't fall under that category
There's the Heathrow Express, which is expensive, but very fast, then there's Heathrow Connect (soon to join Crossrail) which is cheaper but slower, then there's the Piccadilly Line on the London Underground, which is much cheaper than the other two, but much slower
Bungle2010 No, the Heathrow Express most of the time is quicker, even if you have to wait an extra 15 mins, I imagine you could get anywhere in central London from Paddington within 30 mins as that’s the difference between waiting for and getting the HEX vs getting the Tube
Bungle2010 Central London isn’t huge. 30 mins from Paddington could probably get you to Essex or Buckinghamshire. And unless you were staying in Hounslow or Acton it would still be quicker to get the Express
Bungle2010 I’ve been there. It takes 24 minutes from Paddington to Liverpool Street. And I ask you, how long would it take to get to Liverpool Street via the Piccadilly line when leaving at 10:00 in the morning (from the platform) from Heathrow Terminal 5?
Rajat Kaulwin The fastest is definitely the Heathrow Express which takes around 20 minutes, but costs upwards of £20, whilst TfL rail is half the price but takes around 35 minutes, whilst the Underground can take around an hour but costs around £5
the weathers so changable in united kingdom if you had a week or a fort night holiday some where youd have all sorts of weather bring bucket & spade also umbrella
When even the English don't know the difference between a terminal and a station... To be clear: Terminals are end-points and stations are mid-points along a rail.
i would say to Heathrow airport with Crossrail probably will end the Heathrow Express train so to keep their customers happy Heathrow need to find a way to get passengers from London to Heathrow faster so i think Heathrow Airport needs to have maglev technology so that will probably be London to Heathrow in 6 minutes
Very cool that they considered futureproofing in the Heathrow station design.
it was originally going to be used for heathrow airtrack which didn't get built
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Robbie Hagberg and Sue Hagberg I think you can get it tomorrow and I can go to the store and get it tomorrow and let you know when you get home around 5 00 to the store and I can go back to the store and get the rest and I can go to Walmart and get it tomorrow morning and I can't you want my phone number is that the one I can at least get i very much for the rest day
We can always rely on Matt Brown to take us somewhere we've never been before. Great piece by Matt and Geoff and full marks to the Heathrow Express, the Aston Martin of London's railways.
I took this both ways from and to Heathrow a decade ago. Actually was able to buy the ticket online before I left the US, which they recommended doing at the time. It is quite a long walk from the Heathrow terminal to the Express’s platform so I was very glad I had wheeled luggage. Nice smooth ride into London but not very scenic, as I recall. Saved a lot of money not taking a taxi, and time not sitting in traffic.
@@Bungle2010 he would have wasted tons of time by taking the tube
@@ygryaznov Depends where in London you're going, when I go to Heathrow I'm coming from Liverpool Street and for that there's very little or no time difference between only tube or tube then express not at all worth the huge cost difference.
R.I.P CLASS 332 FISH BOWL HEATHROW EXPRESS TRAIN, WE LOVED YOU!!
The similar Class 333s operate in West Yorkshire.
R.I.P class 332 Heathrow Express 1998 - 2020
Fond memories of my late dad (a railway 'Lifer') giving me loads of cab rides as a kid. ( Southern).
Nothing worse than travelling to the airport and having no plans to fly.
3 years later, this comment is spot on😆
Yeah, having to pick up a fire breathing dragon, or the mother-in-law as she is more commonly know as!
Nice video. It's a shame you didn't explain why there were spare platforms terminal 5 (Heathrow western access me thinks)
+jonoharris333 Future expansion is where my money's at.
+jonoharris333 the cancelled Heathrow Airtrack I supposed
+jonoharris333 if the 3rd runway gets approved, the second platform will be needed for the extra amount of passangers coming to the airport
the hearthow express is the fastest trian line in UK
How do you get to Heathrow terminal 5? Is it seperate heathrow express trains to seperate terminals?
Towards the end of the vid, in there cab on the right hand side, there's a continental European style socket. Any idea why?
That is because the trains are built in Spain and Germany. Heathrow Express does not run any equipment made in the UK.
Probably to plug in European Style plugs.
@@lordsnivyofnottingham2948 It's odd though that trains built to be used in the UK aren't fitted with UK sockets. Seems lazy on the part of the manufacturer.
@@caitthenerd7470 oh really, i could never of guessed
@@donaloflynn considering it’s at an airport the train probably has both for tourists and returning tourists.
Got a 'watch it again' recommendation. I never realised they're basically the same trains as run between Leeds and Bradford Forster Square/Skipton/Ilkley
Yea, those are 333s, and this is a 332
I expected I might see someone else recognise the class 333s, I never expected them to recognise it from my home line. Small world, innit?
Looks awesome! Can't wait to visit London someday!
I commuted from Rye New York to Grand Central Terminal over a 30-year period and love stuff like this.
maybe i'm just cheap but i don't see any reason to take the heathrow express when the piccadilly line works equally well, just with quite a bit more stops of course.. the express is over 20 quid for something i could pay just over 3 quid for.. to me the savings of 15 mins vs 45 mins isn't worth 6 times the cost.. it's still around so i guess some people don't like the "scenic" route or just don't mind being gouged lol :-)
I think if you’re a businessman with a flight to catch using the company credit card, you’re less concerned about the pricing and just want to get there… :p
hotelmario510 if I’ll be a businessman so VIP I’ll have my personal plane in LCY :)
Yea the express is quite expensive tbh. TfL rail was good enough for me. Half the price and not that much slower
Nice work. I've been on that train and found it confusing. I've never seen a diagram of the track layout till yours and it is clearer now. Thanks.
Nice video. Very helpful visiting London in July. Subscribed
"One of the nicest trains ever!!!, so lovely in side,😊...
I would love to do this. If ever I get back to the Old Country, I will put this on my itinerary!
The Heathrow express is so useful if you want to go from central London to the airport
Another great film
I used the Heathrow Express one way from Heathrow to Paddington in March for a Procol Harum gig. It was alright, a little bumpy though but they have screens on board showing latest news and stuff. My tip: buy a ticket 90 days in advance for the best deal, ticket terms are quite flexible too. Would use it again should the need arise.
Please do such a one on the Gatwick Express!
Gatwick express is 21 years old so it will be a long time lol
Such a ripoff. So many cheaper trains.
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COULDN'T THEY UPLOAD THE FULL CAB RIDE. NOW I KNOW MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT RAIL NURDS BUT COULDN'T THEY CONSIDER THOSE WHO ARE.
+. “ccityplanner12” that would ruin it for you. Ride it yourself.
We can't with the lights in the tunnel.
+A. Tee true. you must be a train geek. Most people just want to get where they are going. But really, you want to see the inside of tunnels? that's a bit much.
It's not my cup of tea, but I'm sure some people do.
Could have been disallowed, since it's a major airport and could be detrimental to the security there.
I have a couple of questions.
1) Can we have a full cab ride video of the Express?
2) How exactly do the "hidden" platforms at T5 relate to the existing ones? The diagram seems to indicate that they are between the two, but the video seems to show them off to one side?
I liked that! Thank you!
Nice one Matt and Geoff
Anyone else see 47580 at 00:30?
Why are there European style plug sockets in the driver's cab?
Because the train is designed for not just Britain, but the government could transfer them to another European country for use.
Good question
They were built in Japan deal with it.
Weren't they?
They do fit on the continental network. Your trains are narrower than the normal continental ones.
That's going to be beautiful...
Proud to be a part of HEX :)
Hannah Taylor ooh I have that mouse in the pic
15 minutes is to Heathrow Central station for those that want to know. Terminal 5 itself is another 6 minutes after Heathrow Central
When you said cab ride I thought you were referring to the price.
Big fan of your videos! Great work! What was down the tunnel?
Is the Heathrow express will go from airport will extend to Windsor and Eaton anthoer branch to Gilford to cut down over crowded on South West trains it be quicker from central London?
Isn't it simply more convenient to take the piccadilly line direct to heathrow terminals?
It depends where youre going from. This takes 15 minutes from Paddington the Piccadilly line is extremely unreliable and slow.
And Cramped and way less comfier seating..
This is direct. Piccadilly calls at loads of stopps
the piccadilly line takes a lot longer
Bro rode on the fishbowl 💀💀
An amazing cab ride
Interesting heritage train on the left side at 0:28s
if you go to southall station you will see them getting moved from the shed to the lines
2:28 schucko socket. Wonder what that's used for.
Why is there a German socket in the cap?
+NeoDerGrose I just saw that and thought it was very strange to.
Maybe not so much German as European. The trains were built in Spain.
I think they use the French E type plug in spain , tho they could have put in a german F type for the same reason why u can find variations on the BS 1363 in the uk = so not just any one can plug things in and use the power
I correct myself I went to look it up and spain to uses the the german F type
Could as well be a UK shaver socket.
I love the European outlet in UK train :D
Great Video
Also the W&City line has two drivers (during rush hour) for two stations
+Luca Franzosini nope just one. The driver from Waterloo gets off, walks to the other end between trains then drives the next train back and so on.
Thats amazing
I think the Schuko (German/European) socket in the Driver's cab is particularly interesting.
Where were the trains made? Probably they couldn't be bothered to source and fit UK sockets!
AAAyyyGGG caf and Siemens built the trains in 1998.
Wonder what the WCR 47 was doing, something at the other end?
stunning trains wow!
He suggests the tunnel to the left just after entering the tunnel is the second bit of the t5 platforms but that other lit up bit is under some fields, nowhere near t5
2:02 The Waterloo and City Line?
The Waterloo and City line has one driver who changes end at Waterloo and Bank, the Heathrow 4 shuttle has two drivers, one in each cab.
Yes everyone knows. Also you are wrong Mister, the drive changes end at Bank! NOT Waterloo! The Waterloo and City Line has one stop, and one driver. The Heathrow Connect shuttle has 2 drivers and 2 stops. Do you even get it yet?
Rail.TrainMaster If it has one stop then it isn’t a line is it? It goes from Waterloo to Bank, with the driver changing ends at Bank, and at Waterloo the driver drives into the reversing siding, switches ends then drives into the outbound platform. Look at a tube map
Yes and? It's part of the tube network. If that isn't a line then explain the Colchester to Colchester Town Line on GEML.
If it stops at Waterloo, then it stops at Bank, count up how many stops that is. 2. Now count how many drivers there are. 1. 2≠1
Nice vids keep up the good work
Like the enthusiasm
How come there's a european plug in the cab? 2:33
The only one with two drivers for two stations in London? But what about he Waterloo and City Line?
That has one driver
+David Frankal It has only one driver.
Right
But it only stops at one station on it's trip. Also If you are counting that as two stations than it would only be fair if you counted the Shuttle as 3 stops.
Do they have one driver in the peak?
So what was up with the other branching off tunnel, I might have missed it getting explained?
off to the redundant platform, for when/if the 3rd runway ever gets approved and they suddenly need more capacity.
If there are only 2 stations, why do you need drivers at all? How hard would it be to automate a train moving from one stop to another and back?
have the class 332's now been withdrawn?
They have been now yes.
class 332/333 are spanish build trains used on heathrow express
It goes to 4 stations not 2. Paddington, Heathrow T1,2,3 Heathrow T4 & Heathrow T5
I guess the heathrow express isn't too happy about the arrival of the Elizabeth Line allowing decent travel times to Heathrow without being utterly ripped off!
WHY are they STILL running the old 125's on the mainline? The Adelante's were brilliant!
Because the Adelante's were unreliable on the GWML, and they were relatively low in numbers. They were only designed to increase capacity, not to replace the HSTs anyway. The Class 800s and 802s are designed to replace the HSTs on the GWML, and they've been in service since October
When are you going to cover their new trains?
2:30 “And that’s where we end our journey”
*once you get to the end of the platform*
What is the fare for this system?, here in Toronto we have to pay $19 dollars (if you have a Presto card) or $27.50 normal for our Airport Express train the Union-Pearson Express (UPX).
+SgtMays It's about £22 single. Not cheap, but it's aimed at those that would get a taxi into London. You can get the Tube for about £3 but it takes 4 times longer
+SB Trains, Planes and Drives The railway in England is never cheap :P
+SgtMays The standard fare is what SB Trains, Planes and Drives said. However they quite often have discounts, you can actually get a ticket for £5.50 on bank holidays or £8.80 on weekends if you book in advance, both are cheaper than the Heathrow Connect service
The rail network seem very accomodating to Geoff & co, I can't imagine other large corp's doing this, well done chap's....
I assume it's extremely cold on the train. It would explain the wool hat.
Didn't the Heathrow Express depart from King's Cross before?
Nope.
+KasHCubeD No but there was a plan in the late 90s early 00s to run a second service into St. Pancras
heathrow express is soooo nice me and my took it and we were in first class for some reason but i remember not wanting to get off when we got the airport
Unfinished L/C! Now, thats cool!
great way to get downtown
Doesn't the tunnels get lit up when it goes dark though??
***** '
Does this service get taken over by Crossrail in May?
The Heathrow Connect service does, the Heathrow Express doesn't
Thank You Team, Now Can Diver Eye Veiw of the tunnels up for us to see
Why does it cost as much as a flight to Berlin or Paris?
byblis persephone Tourist from New York who paid the £37(!) to and back, can confirm. (I was jet-lagged and didn't want to ride the entire subway to the friggin Docklands, okay!?)
Getting to Manhattan quickly from JFK is much cheaper over here: $15 each way using AirTrain and the LIRR (From Jamaica to Penn), and if you're willing to use the subway, it's half that. And if you're trying to get from Newark Intl to Manhattan, it's $12.50.
I think you will find that's for a book of tickets, but I agree with you that it's a rip off, for the time your on the train, I can go on 60mile round trip for a price of a oneway ticket and that's is on HS1 .....
They most likely went HEX to Paddington, Circle line to Monument, DLR from Bank
what about the Piccadilly line Heathrow service
“FISHBOWL!”
-Stepford County Railway
amazing
Very nice :D
Why does the cab have a european plug in it?
Nice video! It's a shame they're going to withdraw the class 332s!
By December 2019, using a pool of 12 Class 387's GWR fleet. Hence fleet standisation and saves money building a new depot at Langley for the 332's. Existing depot at Old Oak Common will be gone by 2020 for HS2.
heethrow expres trayn??
I never saw the 332 Heathrow express
Heathrow Express is a rip off! Only their trains run this route, and prices are over inflated and artificially high...nothing short of a monopoly...the tube is much cheaper
There´s also Heathrow Connect services. They are cheaper but less frequent and have a longer journey time. But there´s a reason why Heathrow Express is "expensive". It´s intended for those who otherwise would´ve taken a cab, people who just want an easy and quick service with higher comfort than the tube.
Go by train all the way to London where you're coming from or indeed where you're going to. Don't make it a 3 leg journey each way which includes the plane when you can do it in 1 or 2 legs anyway.
As kids travel for free, it's not at all expensive for families, having a lot of luggage - but so convenient.
Sort of. When I was in London I took the tube from Heathrow to my hotel, but for the way back I was running super late I knew I could get a cab to Padington and take the Heathrow Express to catch my plane. It cost less than having to book another transatlantic flight.
Yeah but the tube is longer. TfL also runs a local service on the TfL Rail going to 1, 2, 3, & 4. Heathrow express though goes to 1, 2, 3, & 5.
Also, taking a taxi can be less busy by going to the pod parking (Access to Term 5 only)
Most guards are trained to drive their trains if the driver becomes ill but this is for extreme incidents where urgent medical aid is needed - heart attacks however doesn't fall under that category
keith russell not to drive but to stop and contact the signalman in an emergency situation.
One train exclusively for Heathrow airport only?
There's the Heathrow Express, which is expensive, but very fast, then there's Heathrow Connect (soon to join Crossrail) which is cheaper but slower, then there's the Piccadilly Line on the London Underground, which is much cheaper than the other two, but much slower
Bungle2010 No, the Heathrow Express most of the time is quicker, even if you have to wait an extra 15 mins, I imagine you could get anywhere in central London from Paddington within 30 mins as that’s the difference between waiting for and getting the HEX vs getting the Tube
Bungle2010 Central London isn’t huge. 30 mins from Paddington could probably get you to Essex or Buckinghamshire. And unless you were staying in Hounslow or Acton it would still be quicker to get the Express
Bungle2010 I’ve been there. It takes 24 minutes from Paddington to Liverpool Street. And I ask you, how long would it take to get to Liverpool Street via the Piccadilly line when leaving at 10:00 in the morning (from the platform) from Heathrow Terminal 5?
Rajat Kaulwin The fastest is definitely the Heathrow Express which takes around 20 minutes, but costs upwards of £20, whilst TfL rail is half the price but takes around 35 minutes, whilst the Underground can take around an hour but costs around £5
How do people get cab views on caneras
the weathers so changable in united kingdom if you had a week or a fort night holiday some where youd have all sorts of weather bring bucket & spade also umbrella
Schuko outlet on a british train! :)
+AltoScroll They were actually built by CAF in Zaragoza, Spain. Though in cooperation with Siemens
they should call this ' secrets of the hearthow express
The only train thats on time out of paddington
2:10 I miss him(Class 332)
When even the English don't know the difference between a terminal and a station... To be clear: Terminals are end-points and stations are mid-points along a rail.
i would say to Heathrow airport with Crossrail probably will end the Heathrow Express train so to keep their customers happy Heathrow need to find a way to get passengers from London to Heathrow faster so i think Heathrow Airport needs to have maglev technology so that will probably be London to Heathrow in 6 minutes
Why I chose the express while being the onliest time in London...
it is a bigger version of the dlr
good fast service but a little expensive to travel 20 miles
Fishbowl!
Crossrail will soon take over
But Heathrow Express their uses class 387 electostar
Not yet they don’t, 332s are still in service but the 387s should enter service on HEX soon.
Its about time they upgraded it to driverless as they have done elsewhere.
+bushyconn Driverless only works when all trains are driverless
I'm sure they can do it. lol
0:31 There Is A Class 47
Its 19 years old now