Why the world is going crazy-and how to win back our minds | Jamie Wheal | Big Think
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The speed at which civilization is progressing has become overwhelming for modern humans and has caused what Jamie Wheal (author of Recapture the Rapture, founder of the Flow Genome Project, and host of the Collective Insights Podcast) calls a “collapse of meaning.”
For many, Meaning 1.0 (organized religion) and Meaning 2.0 (modern liberalism) no longer provide the structure and guidance that they used to. "It does feel like the handrails, the things we used to look to for stability and security, have evaporated," says Wheal. "If we've experienced a collapse of meaning, how do we go about restoring it?"
In order to reach Meaning 3.0-which Wheal says is a blend of traditional religion and modern liberalism without the promise of an escape-we need to focus on mending trauma, reconnecting with inspiration, and connecting better with one another.
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JAMIE WHEAL:
Jamie Wheal is the founder of the Flow Genome Project and an expert in peak performance and leadership, specializing in neuroanthropology. He has advised the U.S. Naval War College and Special Operations Command, Red Bull athletes, and executives of companies including Google and Goldman Sachs. Wheal is the co-author of Stealing Fire: How Silicon Valley, the Navy SEALs, and Maverick Scientists Are Revolutionizing the Way We Live and Work.
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JAMIE WHEAL: It's really easy to forget, that we're just monkeys with clothes. If you took all of life on Earth and you compressed it into one 24-hour day, anatomically modern man shows up at four seconds before midnight, cave paintings at one second before midnight. We've been playing at civilization for a fraction of a second.
Everything is going into exponential change, from education to quantum computing, to cryptocurrency, to transport, to macroeconomics, to geopolitics, to climate crisis, to everything. It's breaking our brains. We're overwhelmed, we're collapsing in grief. It does feel that the handrails, the things that we used to look to for stability and security, have just evaporated. If we've experienced a collapse in meaning how do we go about restoring it?
I'm Jamie Wheal, founder of the Flow Genome Project, and author of "Recapture the Rapture: Rethinking God, Sex, and Death in a World That's Lost Its Mind." The collapse in meaning, that I think you can at least argue we're in the midst of right now, is complex and multivariable. We've had a collapse in traditional organized religion, what you could call kind of Meaning 1.0. For the first time ever, the nuns, the spiritual but not religious, like the "none of the above's," is the largest and fastest growing religious movement in North America. There are increasingly folks that feel like, "Hey, those stories, those codes, those ways of being, don't match my identity. Don't match my choices. Don't match my community." So organized religion is no longer a place to hang our hats. And at the same time, modern liberalism has also been getting a little creaky. That's Meaning 2.0. Think of the ivory tower in academia, news media, businesses, and corporate titans and leadership, potentially even medicine. And you just take those and you just go one by one. You're like, oh, well, Goldman Sachs sold middle America down the river in 2008. And McKinsey helped Purdue Pharma sell more OxyContin well after the negative effects were demonstrated. The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal, which used to be considered the journals of record are now imploding. And the same thing with doctors, the same thing with corruptions in peer review, and the replication crisis. Basically everything you've ever seen on a TED Talk is probably not true.
So all of the places that we used to use rules of thumb or decision-making shortcuts, that's just evaporated. So in that collapse, we're getting fundamentalism on one side, and we're getting nihilism on the other. We're getting diseases of despair. We're getting real heartbreak. I think you could make a case that that is why we're seeing this uptick in conspiracy theories of all stripes. Will anybody make sense of all of this nonsense for me? If you can give me a happily ever after, if you can tell me that I'm one of the good guys, and you promised to get me to the other side...
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Can we reach Meaning 3.0, or is it too late?
Meaning 3.0 will come when we realize how archaic theism and tribalism are. We need to show people that being a good person has nothing to do with religion. All that is relevant is right in front of us, and science is our best path to a better future.
@@B.Whittaker LMAO....
@@B.Whittaker you don't even realize that your morals ARE based on religion, whether you like it or not.
@@mfmageiwatch yeah, I actually do realize that growing up in a society founded on judeo-Christian values influences your morals, but you don’t even realize that we’ve already gone beyond where those ancient texts have been able to advise us. Do you realize the amount of evil that has been condoned by religion?
I have it, could you share my ideas? I can write you guys a script for it but I unified philosophy with physics again
Logic with abstraction
Science and science fiction, logically separated by abstract human logical thinking(philosophy itself)
I think i might have a proof to p=np as well.....
A logical one, but i do change some philosophical axiomatic abstractions, making logical paradoxes defined by simmetry, logical symmetry.
Emergence of consciousness, intelligence, human +AIs, stuff from science fiction, because creativity works both ways
For science and abstract creative art, science fiction.
We can forget religion because I have a strictly physical field with a predicted boson
That's logically equivalent to perfect abstract Truth, which many would claim proves God, but I think it rather Defines God as quantum, entropic information in a lower dimension of no volume but a ortonormal topological twist.
I'm this close to deriving string theory(doesn't mean it's right, just that the logical idea of it is humanly attainable when built from first principle
I'm actually starting to abstract my logic into formal maths, so..
I'd appreciate help too, no human alone can redefine our capitalistic society into a Cyberpunk post scarcity society.
But scientific oriented minds, intelligently linked and organized together? Implies the emergence of our shared higher consciousness: emergent from negative entropy: organizing stuff into matter
In the brain analogy, white matter
A singularity of knowledge (negative entropy) would also be a logical wormhole connected to the EH of some other singularity it is quantum entangled to
QE are the shortcuts simplifying topologically, the knots of entropy
As QM=GR, wormholes and entanglement are not complicated, but the simplest Feynman diagrams ever.
We can untangle the web of entropy willingly through knowledge and physical world interactions, but growing backwards in time that defines entropy going up.
Which I argue is entangled to the entropy that's caused and causes time flow and inflation to happen as emerging phenomena from first principles.
P=NP is obvious then
1=-1 = -1=1
-1+1=0
=0=0/1
1*0=0
It's not a paradox, it's only logical
As we approach an absurdity of type AdS=dS, logical Klein bottles that define themselves their opposite
We'll see why we should fix the natural charge of the electron to meaning positive.
CP-violation is logically emergent this way too.
When we find a logical (=) symmetry that defines a bsurdity of trivial paradox type, we can say
That in the abstract limit of absurdity, we find that 1=-1 is trivial. Not an error nor paradox, but defines something by its inverse, which has trivial abstract information on it
Entanglement of two-sided of a paper into oneside and one side only that's both itself ND its logical opposite.
Humanity is going through it's emo phase
Best comment I've seen
Wonderful isn't it?... Humanity is finally becoming a late teenager
We hit emo around the time philosophers started heavily critiquing religion, co-inciding with the rise in astronomy. "We arent the center of the univese, oh God is not looking at us 24/7. Well then what are we, why are we..." That was the tipping point imo. I dont think we will recover from it until a century or two.
@@abhiroopdas3232 So when we enter our twenties?
@@jvmeel7454I said nothing abt age, I said about emo. Emo hits people of any age. Currently, we still are in puberty which will end once we become an intergalactic species and Earth is re-stabilized and poverty controlled. It's hella difficult but possible. Regarding the emo phase, however, I have no idea when it will end. Centuries maybe lol.
At 45 with three young kids I've finally grasped the tragedy of life. I realized that majority of us are experiencing a generational spectrum of childhood traumas. This is the root cause of the current state of our world. The solution is simple. It's not about me or my comfort It's about raising our children surrounded by unconditional love. The concept of "it takes a village to raise a child" got eradicated, with it, we have lost to provide some of the most basic needs for our growing generations. I feel if everyone understood this and practiced it, within a couple generations our souls would reconnect with the natural laws, at a cost of slowed down materialistic growth, we have absolutely everything we need, otherwise we are just fooling ourselves.
I have always thought the answer to suffering is where we don't want to look. Childhood trauma. If each one could heal that wounded child in our selves then the world l think would start to look a lot more beautiful.
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First we need to get rid of the traumas in order to give unconditional love, we need to break the curse.
I think about this a lot because I agree that childhood trauma is the root of each of our... internal turmoil. However, I don't think there are easy solutions - but I do agree the communal living and raising children in a community is the right foundation to start from. I just have no idea how anyone can do that... I can't just go looking on the market for a place for me and my siblings, parents and friends to all live close together to give the kids the most diversified love.
Also, while I do agree unconditional love and avoiding real bad childhood traumas is key, I think that our minds are designed to get traumatized from just whatever was the hardest to go through. I'm telling you, I grew up with unconditional love, taught a pretty healthy view of Christianity (realistic, modern and relationship/love based, not rule based) (but I'm no longer religious) and I didn't have anything bad happen to me. Let me tell you, I am still very traumatized - I have endless inner turmoil. Oh ya, I'm successful and smart etc so those things helped me to be a good version of me but I could be sooooo much better than I am if I didn't have all this endless tragedy boiling inside me. I'm so anxious and stressed and ok I'm still successful so I clearly was given the tools to succeed but my point is that our minds are designed to be stressed/anxious/crazy. And I want to be 1000x better than I am at handling my stress and inner turmoil. *That's* the crux of my long message here. I think kids given unconditional love are still going to find they have childhood trauma. Every single person. Oh ya tons can deny it and believe it - that could have been me but you can tell I haven't fooled myself too much on that one. I know I'm messed up despite being less messed up than I'd have been if anything really bad happened to me. So how do you help those kids then? My suggestion is to find ways of helping those unconditionally loved kids to be ready to self soothe their subconscious. The ego is convinced the world is out to get it. Only with practice can the conscious mind have the toolset to calm that ego and reassure it. I now know this intellectually but I have a LONG ways to go to do that as much as I really need to in order to have a healthy mind. And I honestly do not know how to give kids that toolset. Maybe more talks about how my mind is going to explode once I grow up (if I was talked about that while growing up). I am hopeful that more people are realizing these things.
@@TheSkystrider Hi there, it's very interesting to hear your perspective. I thought in my early 20s I am so miserable and aimless because of childhood trauma but I found out this is partially true. In our Childhood we don't know how to deal with things so we misinterpret the way we view the world. So half of our problems are in our imagination only. The Children's who are born in perfect family also suffer from this problems. As children's we don't have the toolkit to navigate and learn from the world. If you are interested we can further discuss this..... So I end with this quote "We suffer more often in imagination than reality
-Seneca
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My grandfather explained how he thought the world was too complex and we were changing and growing faster than is possible for others to keep up, or even want to. We see this in Amish, and other cultures in other countries.
What I am experiencing is the same thing my grandfather experienced. I’m telling the same story he told to me, but now I’m telling it to my grandchild.
The world really is designed to be this way. As we age we don’t always keep up with new things like we did when we were young. We get comfortable working with what we know and even get arrogant and think it is the right and only way to do it. There are some older people who are exceptions to this. But in general, we lose our ability to listen and take on new methods or learn new skills.
We think the world is changed, and yes on the surface it has and always will.
But underneath it all, the changing world and the feeling of not keeping up with it is nothing new. If you read literature from various time periods, many talk of how their modern world is ruining mankind. Yet mankind goes on, changing as it always has.
Now that I’m old. I am content that the changes and our uncomfortableness to it are actually normal and we should feel secure in knowing “all is well and as it should be.”
The “it has and always will” sentiment fails to recognize what a singularity is. We are rapidly approaching several critical singularities, and we experience many distortions, disruptions, and continuous paradigm shifts as we near the singularities.
We are approaching an AI singularity, relegating the human mind into the dustbins as we did to human brawn the previous century.
We are approaching genetic engineering and augmentation singularities where lifespan extensions and man-machine hybrids exceed the capabilities of a fully-abled person. We already contend with the Methuselah problems of aging populations, but upon the singularity of abolishing deaths, such problems will exacerbate to levels that are unimaginable.
@@TheLazyVideo Yeah just a couple hundreds years ago, people would grow up with the expectation that the world would remain exactly as it was, because THAT'S how it was: truly cyclic, truly static. The industrial revolution was really something.
@@TheLazyVideo Fascinating. That would be such and incredible evolution. To think man made an AI that eventually ended the need for man. That’s super change, lol.
@@tacitozetticci9308 just only one of many throughout history, consider the ability to smelt metals. To form governments, to build ocean fairing ships, city sewers and aqueducts, all before the latest industrial years if the late 19th and early 20th centuries. I’m sure if we survive another 200 years, our industrial revolution may be a one line sentence read by few one day.
@@mehameha4453 I disagree, I think it's a turning point, and history will always give importance to it, especially 200 years from now (but tbh the world will be pretty impossible to imagine 200 years from now so who knows).
But anyway, in my country we study the ancient times and the middle ages much much more than the industrial revolution which is just a rushed chapter done towards the end of the programme.
So yeah in a way we don't need to wait 200 years to make it happen lol.
Good piece, I had a seizure two months ago and woke up with brain cancer. Before that I was working hard on feeding my mind, body, and soul with healthy things. When I was out in the hospital I lost all memory of what happened, but I witnessed something absolutely beautiful during my stay at the hospital. I saw a white light. My body began to melt a type of oil from it’s pores, and my physical body started getting lighter as I started floating. Then I saw black and woke up in my hospital room. Right there, I had this realization that we are not truly focusing on what we really need in this world. We have become slaves to this new type of capitalism. Working like dogs while the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. We have also disregarded our neighbors in nature, humanity, and the animal kingdom. We are very selfish humans, and that is why we are depressed. We need to love our selves by taking care of our mind, body, and soul. Love your family, friends and community. Reconnect with them and help others in any way you can. You save your money, revolutionize this economic system, and find happiness.
this comment literally made me shiver. everything you said is so true, so simple, yet so difficult to spread and achieve. But it doesn't matter, I profoundly believe that, as humans, whatever it is that we need, we'll figure it out at some point, and I really think we are starting to do it. The fact that you have wrote this comment in this video especially and we are having this conversation proves it.
@@albatrs i agree. I have been very cynical in my life (24yo) as usual because of trauma.
Recently while healing i am more optimistic, the changes we have now are huge in finally realizing ; to just accept each other as we are (stoping discrimination/racism/judgment/etc), take care of the earth cause it’s our home, be loving and spread it even to strangers, countries working in unison to thrive.
There is a lot of bad always has been with corruption and greed but I believe the more this mentality of “human unity” grows, the more “good” ppl will realize and take those roles of authority/leadership/rule/power away from the ones controlling it now. Then the world Will really change. Ppl that have made differences and died…. If we just get more of those people at the top in the greater numbers the world will be much different… safer… and thriving in good energy.
It is true. We are enslaved in about everything and every way possible. It is not new. It is this way for thousands of years. Everything is made up to enslave and control.
We are being used. Being used, a cash crop. We are so convinced we can’t see it.
It is as if it comes from ourselves.
I have been telling everyone to see this. It does not matter who you are in this world, everyone and everything is enslaved. That is why we have these made up stories about salvation that are thousands of years old. The stories actually continue to keep us enslaved and controlled and used.
They don’t get it.
@@kimcooper1833 Glad to hear that you also had this realization. Keep sharing your mindset like you are. You are going to change the world.
@@Myeyesburnbabyburn I agree. I'm also starting to realize that I am more optimistic as time passes. It's like I stop and look around to the people I know, and how they have changed since before I was born (I'm only 16 :), and all my friends and I just started a student union in our school... in conclusion, I'm starting to see that everything isn't that terrible, and that many people are changing for the better
"It is not the aim of science to open a door to infinite wisdom, but to set a limit to infinite error."
-Bertold Brecht
Here is my boy ❤ I love you
Bring light to them, sweetie. Literature. I love you from the bottom of my heart ❤
@@alinebaruchi1936 Cheers!
Knowledge is Power.
Power to THE PEOPLE!
@@hadara69 sure
That sounds more like the aim of law. Name a scientific endeavour that intrinsically corrects error. (Though *finding* an error becomes much easier once you have a lawful, scientific body of knowledge to work from.)
The aim of ethics, particularly if we can begin to make a science of it (as we have with medicine,) is more likely to be able to open the door to something better than the chaotic default we live with now.
Though that IS setting the bar pretty low.
“The meaning of life is just to be alive. It is so plain and so obvious and so simple. And yet, everybody rushes around in a great panic as if it were necessary to achieve something beyond themselves.” - Alan Watts
That’s a great, even profound, quote, but Alan Watts basically drank himself to death.
And to procreate.
@@geephlipsno offense, but he did what his quote says ... "just to be alive". there's no escaping death (obviously) . i know this is clichés and hypocritical of me saying so, and redundant, but "every moment counts" ... in some way or another.
... and some would say that highly intelligent people are the most depressed. my thought on that is ... because they know. they see things for what they are ... reality
What's your point
@@thefearandwonder I agree with what he said, but his alcoholism suggests that he struggled more with existence than he let on to the people who read his books or attended his talks. I think he hinted at this, but could have done more to reveal his struggles.
Just finished his book. Well worth the read.
To be honest - I always thought my feelings of being overwhelmed were just because I'm weak minded but as it turns out humans in general are going through a weird phase right now.
Everyone is weak minded at times my friend
The tools for me is to have critical thinking, apply logic and reason and to have empathy towards other.
im 27 and most people in my circle are not planning on having children, just the thought of bringing a child into this world is taken as a joke now. That says a lot about the state we are in.
Thank you. I see people having kids, and it is a joke. They don't care about the future of the world or of their offspring. I'm in my 60's and the world is no longer the beautiful planet of less than 2 BILLION humans. I'm sorry for what our generations have left you with. Sadness, death, and despair. I'm sorry for all life.
Another way of looking at it is this world is gonna need as many good people as it can get, so I'm gonna raise the best dang kids I can and send them out to help heal our broken world.
A society with a mindest like that is doomed to collapse imo.
@@garretlevi i agree, its the only thing that makes me want to have kids, but on the other hand i think our damage to the planet is so out of hand there wont be a world for them. Either that or some other collapse, like economical
@@o0o371 agree with the first part, disagree with the second part
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society" - Krishnamurti
Wow 😮 Krishnamurti was deep….such a true statement.🤔
O.P.:
Thanks so much for posting that!
I've never felt more relieved about how unwell I feel about society.
Also Covid.
Check Canguilhem's definition of "normality" 😉
True.
@JigaYan you are ment to introspect go withing excavate your sources of emotional instability and process it.
Just us talking about this and thinking about the state of humanity…. It’s like watching evolution right before my eyes. We grow with every generation but insanely fast because humans are unique and have these wonderful consciousnesses that are very adaptive. Amazing
If you are reading this, know that you are worthy of anything you desire. Most times it amazes me greatly how I moved from an average lifestyle to earning over $63k per month, Utter shock is the word. I have understood a lot in the past few years that there are lots of opportunities in the financial market. The only thing is to know where to invest.
I agree with you and I believe that the secret to financial stability is having the right investment ideas to enable you earn more money, I don’t know who agrees with me but either way I recommend either real estate or bitcoin and stocks.
I keep wondering how people earn money in financial markets, i tried trading bitcoin on my own made a huge loss and now I'm scared of investing more.
@@susanhaynes679 That won't bother you if you trade with a professional like *Mr Gary Mason Brooks* my coach, you may have come across him on interviews relating to bitcoin and stocks. He trades, manage trading account and offer mentorship program for clients who wish to become professional investors.
@@bjoe631 You allow people to trade for you? that's interesting, I would love to learn, hope it’s safe?
Wow I'm a bit perplexed you guys are discussing about Gary Mason Brooks , I once met him at a conference in California 2019, just before the pandemic. I can testify that he’s very good in trading..Highly recommended.
Any culture that would help humanity in a direction of a "Star Trek" Future for us instead of a "Mad Max" Future would be preferable!!
Preach 😂
We already amed at Star Trek and we got mad max
When you think of that, you also have to realize that on earth we also need to raise every human being up to a level of being fed, housed, clothed and free. Our social lives and understanding of one another is the MOST important thing possible and our truth to that as well as making those things cheaper and healthier than ever is the final jolt of energy to finally break the finish line.
Three words: Mouse Utopia Experiment
@@adebleswordfish those sound like noble, and really interesting goals. Do you have any good texts that go into how we could achieve this in the future?
I strongly disagree with his assertion that all TED Talks are wrong. I’m not suggesting that they are all 100% correct, but to make such a broad generalization seems intellectually dishonest at best.
Ditto on your insight 😉
He’s just being hyperbolic
I mean... this whole thing is intellectually dishonest from a formal logic standpoint. His argument in broad strokes goes:
1. Organized Religion is becoming incongruent with modern life.
2. Modern liberalism is also becoming incongruent or manically corrupt.
3. We need a dose of both to find meaning.
How does point 3 follow? Organized religion and liberalism actually overlaps quite a bit in different pockets of the world already, and that hasn’t suddenly improved anything. In fact, the broad patterns of abondoning organized religion and liberalism are so recent that I wholly disagree that he can say there is a meaning 1.0 and 2.0... unless his book has an incredibly detailed and historically cited chapter on the movements of these things, I don’t see how his conclusion makes any real sense.he spent the whole talk discussing the failures of both and then says you can bring them together for effective solutions...
@@tstew258 excellent summary of the video!
@@tstew258 What ever you do, don't buy his book to find out. He is a conscientious charlatan at best.
I actually feel this to be accurate to today's society. So much damage and chaos is done these days, lives thrown away for reasons, not just of their own making, but from outer influences as well. Individuality is important, as nobody wants to be compared to another person outright. In the end, everything requires a balance to reach true happiness.
You are not dating anything Kinessmata Akkadian
"The handrails we used to have to guide us dissapeared". That's an excellent allegory for the technological and societal adolescense we're going through as a civilization
When we understand that life has no meaning, we realize that it is up to us to give our lives any meaning we want, and that it is not only ourselves but also others who are giving some meaning to our lives. In other words, we have already been redeemed. There is nothing to be afraid of.
@You are correct But My reasons for believing that life is essentially meaningless are inspired by the results of astrophysics, but my own way of dealing with the meaninglessness of life may be existentialism, as you say. I think people who can believe in God can seek help from various religions. In any case, it doesn't make much difference.
I never understood this idea of life being inherently meaning less
I think collectively we do not have a shared meaning, because of the diversity. Meaning in my daily life changes with what I show myself. Wouldn't "modern liberalism" tell us *unity in diversity*: life defaults to virtue. You may not find a meaning in the universe, but in some sense treating people kindly and respecting their freedom in central to a sustainable civilization. Of course there are fools around every corner, which calls to mind patience and long suffering. ... So, yes, I agree, there is no meaning in life save what i give it.
@@viyusavery248 According to astrophysics, the earth will be swallowed by the sun and disappear in 5 billion years. And even if humanity is able to leave the solar system, we will eventually be completely isolated as the distance between the stars increases with the expansion of the universe. Eventually, the universe itself will die a thermal death, and there will be no atoms (or life forms, of course), and no change whatsoever. We are just a series of physical phenomena starting from the quantum theory of the field (so I believe that free will is also an illusion).
In other words, the question is whether people and the universe, which are destined to die and be forgotten, essentially have any meaning. As long as there are beings who observe and interpret physical phenomena in the universe, it is tempting to claim that the universe has meaning, but I think that meaning that depends on the existence of observers cannot be said to be essential.
My tedious and lengthy comments only make sense if you can read them!
@@abc0to1 but all these phenomena are following rules and patterns.. I still don't see how things are inherently meaningless
I wonder if aliens think
"it's sort of easy to forget that we're just fish. In 5 dimensional spaceships."
Don't you mean starships? A spaceship is a vehicle that flies through space while a starship is a type of spacecraft capable of traveling to the solar systems of other stars. 😎
@@silvercloud1641 hell yea i mean i star ships😂😂😂
@@silvercloud1641 ok but whats the difference between a spaceship and a spacecraft? And if a starship falls into the category of SPACEcraft, why would it be correct over the term SPACEships?
@@futurehofer1564 A spaceship gets you around your own galaxy. A starship would be an interstellar spacecraft. Advanced aliens would probably be using starships to get to other solar systems, no? Something a regular spaceship cannot do with it's limited capabilities.
I guess both can be considered types of spacecrafts. Just a spaceship only gets you so far versus a starship/starcraft.
@@silvercloud1641 ok, but like do you agree that space is a synonym for universe? In this case, wouldnt a spaceship reach further than a starship? Like a universeship?
After having had brain cancer three times and being so close to dying. I've tried so many ways to find "the true meaning of life". Ive come up with simply, we are put here to serve others and the planet. We as humans chose to live in a society so it is our duty to that society to share the best of our talents with other creatures and humans and not destroy the planet we have been so luckily been given.
Had me at pending inflection point. I really hope we use information accordingly when the time comes. I'm glad Jamie emphasized breathing. Meditation is life changing.
"Intelligent quote from famous person" - Famous person, Year
100 line paragraph by an armchair general explaining how the quote is completely wrong
@@hashirmaxwell5086 Arrogant anecdotal rebuttal and name shaming noun.
@@choppinbrixx4931 Troll trying his luck at making you more angry
Pig in a blanket scared of being eaten.
Haha. This made me laugh...and also reflect on how many of us (me) are just squawking about, regurgitating the thoughts of great men. The orgy of quotations that's posted here on the web is like something antiseptic and soulless; I just can't quite adequately analogize it. It's like "Oh yeah, that's clever." And the topic remains as unresolved as before the opportune zinger was wittily emblazoned on the thread forever.
We are outsourcing ourselves for the answers that are on the inside.
I have goosebumps in my brain!!! Really impressive for shifting our perspectives. Yes, truly I could always sense that the structures of this world are collapsing.. economies, healthcare, climate, and the only way is becoming " antifragile" and using the "design thinking" approach which means bein6 solution focused and creative, ditching the linear ways of doing things.
There are only two states of reality; one is governed by love, and the other is governed by fear. Whichever one we believe in is the one we will choose to live in.
Considering fear destroys and love creates, we must eventually choose a love reality if we wishes to continue on existing. This is what we are here to learn and the only way we can learn that is from direct experience - and that is the reason for this particular reality.
Ok this video just brought me to tears. I saw myself drowned in depression after loosing 4 relatives for COVID-19 and a close sibling to suicide las year, 2021.
This video kinda tells my own story and how I'm thrinving to find this Meaning 3.0 in the middle of all this chaos. I personally found myself deep diving into yoga practice and studies, and next month I'm about to start my first yoga instructor course.
Finding this Meaning in such crazy times isn't by far an easy endeavor, but it's certainly one that's worth fighting for.
Thanks for the video, this channel is amazing. Greetings from Rio, Brazil.
"There are vast magnitudes of wisdom within and also *beyond* the wavelengths." --A
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"Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In Time, all points converge; hope's strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again."
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--Diamond Dragons (series)
Jamie Wheal is an interesting man because he's clearly intelligent, but he can speak so much without really saying anything definitive
@ Grady Picinich. You are hilarious LoL ... Its an engaging thought exercise for the audience !
@@matthewnelson325 I agree, but I also feel like he pulls a rhetorical sleight of hand. I did reading "Stealing Fire" and I was a little disappointed with the fuzzy conclusions drawn; it seems to be the same scenario all over
Agreed, and very USA oriented. Still had to read Karen Amstrong’s book about the same object.
And why must life have a meaning?
@@jannetteberends8730 I think most folks would argue that a subjective purpose is necessary in the life of most individuals, even while rejecting an objective and grander "meta-narrative"
@@gradypicinich2404 Thank you for pointing this out. I've been wondering about this purpose for the last 40 years :-)
“A blend of traditional religion and modern liberalism” said another way could be a blend of both conservative and liberal values. Which, to my mind, is centrism, more or less. If that’s the case then I fully agree. When societies go too far to the left or right then things get bad. A moderate centrist approach that balances all points of view is always best. And this is how we get back on track.
In our strange world, liberalism has become a conservative value because the modern left has become anti-liberal. I'm a classical liberal myself, my views haven't changed, but I find myself sliding further to the right over time as the left becomes more extreme.
I held your perspective a while back, but I grew out of it as I became better informed. Conservatism can be repressive, but most of the worst atrocities of the past century have been perpetuated by various kind of left-leaning statist ideologies. No, the Nazis were not far-right, their ideology was very similar to that of the Soviet Union, just a bit more racist.
That opening sentence is always one of the things I remember when I see humans doing things both evil and good.
“We are just monkeys with clothes” 😂 sometimes the simplicity of it can be calming.
BS
If you want to call yourself a monkey, go ahead. Just don’t lump everyone together.
@@Ayd1th The fact that we've spent the majority of our existence on the planet at war, in one form or another, and that we focus significant attention on our appearance and social status suggests that we are indeed 'monkeys with clothes'. Although humans have many other admirable qualities - science, friendship, art, music, technological development - these are perhaps our biggest flaws.
Except we are 'Apes' - with clothes - not monkeys.
@@Retrohertz suggests to YOU. not me
The presentation of this man as expert-of-all-experts. His self-presentation, and the production values presenting him and what he is saying.
Second misgiving, his facile offering of hyper-generalizations. It's like pop-wisdom.
A quick "fix" of slick profundity.
All that being said, this man does talk about important things and it's valuable to engage with this.
Now I am going to ignore the surface and give a focused listen
Love the anti-fragile, love the thoughts on what can help us to reach version 3.0, "meaning 3.0" as he puts it. Impressionistic but valuable.
Exactly! He is not entirely accurate but the ideas he presents are worth thinking about.
I think without the (to you, to me) deterring presentation and extreme simplification, these thoughts would not reach any wider audience. But there is a really important discussion to be had, so be it: simplify!
Yeah, his presentation has plenty of analysis of where we are as a culture, and a clear description of the world we should aspire to create, but very little in the way in terms of how this will be accomplished. It reminds me of the old Steve Martin joke: "How can you make a million dollars and pay no taxes? First, make a million dollars." Yeah, but that is the hard part.
I thought exactly the same when he said most Tedtalks were false. Being facetious one could say: then I should dismiss this video.
What you have been talking about and have explained, in my view, is the reason for the Fermi paradox. I am sure that other civilisations have reached this point in their history and have realised they could self annihilate. They have tried to prevent this happening. Most, if not all, have failed. Which is why after decades of searching SETI has heard only silence.
Kudos to the editor! This was really well edited, all the way from visuals to sound design! 🔥🔥🔥
I agree, bravo! And yeah, that's all in it
Bullshit. The machinegun editing, images that last a fraction of a second are done to grab your attention, and at the end you can't realize what you saw. I put the video in slow motion and many times you have 3, 4, and even five takes in one second. It is insane.
Flat-Earth was best and most funny covered by Wisecrack and Hbomberguy.
And most scientifically covered by Professor Dave and Sci Man Dan.
I have to disagree, the choice of stock footage and the editing felt very distracting and almost random. The ideas come through much more clearly by not watching and just listening. At least that was my experience.
The great strength of humanity is that we are organisable. The great weakness of humanity is that we are organisable. With responsible leadership we do great things for everyone's benefit. With irresponsible leadership only the leaders benefit. Life is fundamentally about "paying it forward". Aligning our values with our biology leads to responsible leadership.
I figured this out at the end of last year. I’m in a relatively good place, making 150k as a single 31F.
I stopped caring as much about work when I realized we commit too much time and energy working for companies we do not own. Your labor (and skills) are transactional services. Do the work, get paid, and only do what is necessary to complete the job optimally (unless you are being paid more).
Keep working on your skills. Education =/= skills. Modern American education was a waste of money and a scam.
I wasted all of my 20s, working as hard as I did, and stressing about shit that really isn’t that important.
People spend their days chasing the same garbage and digging themselves further into debt. Housing is overpriced and not worth the debt (at the moment). I don’t want kids (never really did). This may sound harsh, but serious relationships are not worth the energy unless the person you are committed to is *elevating* your life. Otherwise, stay single. It’s harder being happy alone, and you will be better off achieving this.
The point is, I’m so much happier now that I have learned to be selfish. I quit my last job to return to remote status and focus on my hobbies. Each one helps physical or mental health (e.g., Piano, Kickboxing, Aquascaping, occasional video games).
Do your best (given what you have to work with) and prioritize *your* needs. Anything else is an add-on.
Idgaf anymore and I’m so happy.
Yes, and...being "selfish" doesn't have to also mean neglecting community. Hobbies are great, and it is important to also be sure that a balance of your hobbies also includes connections with other, giving of yourself, volunteering. Hobbies shouldn't enrich only that individuals physical, mental, or emotional well-being.
Then it all adds up to the perfect combo
I’m also in the same headspace and happier than ever. :)
very random question but does anyone know where the church at 1:32 is at? thank you
That sounded like a very long way of saying that you're vaguely unhappy and not sure why
He is sad his mom forced him to have a bowl cut and angry he was too dumb to change it till he was 40
measuring something by 'happiness' havs no sense, but if youre only pointing it then its ok
Says the man resigned to the fact that the era of rhetorical persuasion has long past.
Religion and the paradigm it demands...through fear...has finally run it's course. And now humans can remember there is more to life than fear. Remember...religion only works through fear. Feelings are avoided at all cost for feelings are what connect us as well as this beautiful planet and it's relationship to the sun. The mind is the home of God which is why the God paradigm is now...obviously...really stupid!!!
Im not familiar with him but my impression is he used alot of words but said very little.
"Basically everything you've seen on a TED talk is probably not true." - that's a bit short-sided (and not accurate).
Take a look at what Scientist thought 100 years ago, compare that to today.
In 100 years, people can do the same comparison with what is currently thought.
*Humanity has always been wrong, several orders of magnitude more often than we are right.
Look at the context, he was saying that as a way of summing up his previous point about media.
Which side of it is short?
there are two opinions, on both sides of wrong and right, and both are correct in their own way. but yeah he was a bit wrong on there, but dont let small mistakes (which we all make) divert your attention from this topic of concern he puts forth. the world , this generation, surely is suffering, and we need to do something, cuz its us, or no one
@@andrewmattox1233 100 years ago scientists thought darwinian theory was the most precise model for evolution, and still is, we only refined it. 100 years ago Einstein already published special and general relativity, and still are the best model of our universe. About Quantum mechanics, was well established around 90 years ago, Schrödinger equation was published in 1926. And obviously we had a lot of astonishing new discoveries in last century, but science is always a path to more precise models, there could be no new model or theory without the old "wrong" ones, but no model or theory is forever, so we are "wrong" even now. Except maths, of course.
This is perfect video! It describes so precisely what's happening right now with the electric car movement craze.
04:30 Does anyone know these locations?
An excellent video. So many in our times are badly wounded and afflicted with narcissism, codependency, and depression. These soul diseases obscure consciousness and perception. Everyone must take responsibility for healing themselves and our planet if the human race is to survive another 100 years.
I just read the comments on edgy videos throwing gay people off buildings in Iraq, my view of humanity and trust in TH-cam moderation has been severely scarred
Thank you
Have you ever had a major depressive episode, Majik?
Depression isn't so easy to deal with. Like trying to 'walk off' a major injury.
@@fastertrackcreative neither are the other listed things, but it is possible to overcome. It is okay to be aware of how difficult some things may be to overcome, but it is important to use your energy on overcoming your own personal "problems", for yourself. It is possible
I would absolutely love to be a part of the team that works through these videos. Such great content and lessons. Thanks for sharing.
If you do maybe you should correct what he said. Even if you do believe in evolution humans are not "monkeys with clothes" that's just a wrong statement
We are two beings. The need to eat, shelter, health. Then it's what you are as the beings we are. The last one is we as well as all matter are in space and the relationship between matter and space. Our world is a completely spacial one. Our thinking is completely spacial as well as all things and its reaction to its contact to space. As for our first conflict, we must ambrace our world. Work for that which is life expanding, world saving. Without our world we siece to exist.
Means?
We need to restore common sense and self respect for all life - humans, plants and animals. If we don't do that it doesn't much matter what planet we live on - we will end up with the same chaos.
This is so accurately on point
We are growing ever more ready to accept that our engineered lives most of us have grown overly comfortable with is missing something. Missing the very thing you describe were all moving toward in Meaning 3.0
Humility is, and always has been the answer.
Underrated comment
But humility must not become destruction of self esteem
It is the biggest virtue, in my opinion.
Because…?
@Eddie Avinashi while religion is just humble-bragging, because the religious think humans are special.
~"Tools to mend our trauma, tools to reconnect with inspiration - why we're here and what it all means - and tools to better connect with each other."
This sums up what I've lost along the way and what I have been looking to regain in this life.
Regain belief in yourselves and the people around you.. do not let it be told by a deity.. why because a deity is never able to be proven wrong and THAT is the most dangerous way.
that sounds like mushrooms lol
Do some research on ayahuasca. That’s one of it’s main purposes for humans
'its easy to forget that we're all monkeys with clothes'
Me: and no tail
And no banana☹️
Wow! So amazing! Knowledge, emotions, possibilities, blocks...
We are all having as a "human-experience" we are going through it. Different people find different meanings in different things and avenues. Helping others is one where a lot of people find meaning. Sometimes it just that simple as volunteering and helping out around your community.
WE are immature, animal-origin, evolutionary creatures -- naturally bellicose and quarrelsome, still largely subject to stimulus and response -- until we evolve further. Our immediate supervisors await the day that we take our next HUGE evolutionary step. This is a simulation, designed to Wake THIS Generation Up.
War will come soon -- every desperate nation, tribe, and peoples for themselves . . . in the Name of GAUD -- Grand Architect of Ur Destruction -- Abraham's Ur. THEN the Great Re-Set on 09/23/26, the autumn equinox of the US' and the illuminati's 250th year (1776-2026). All the people will cry out as never before in the entire history of Mankind,
"No more war. Forgive our debts. Save us from Omega (the killer variant) We will do Anything!"
That's when we unveil our NEON GAUD -- a sentient machine and comptroller of our currencies, with the Plan to Perfect Humanity. Men and women will never lie, cheat, steal, or murder again -- so help us GAUD. Resistance is fatal. YOU WILL BE HAPPY.
THEN, 10/12/26, "You have destroyed yourselves with your endless wars of Gods. Now bow down and worship YOUR BEAST." That's what Xi says. And we go into SELF captivity for 41.67 years.
ONE LAST CHANCE: epochal Eclipse April 8th 2024. Don't stare at the sun -- exercise faith. Matthew 16: 4 Jonah 3: 4-5, 8 Jonah 4: 11
Personally I believe religion was just the first form of government, it gave people social norms and an outline on how to act. Then came our actual many different forms of government, which would fill that void but we just hadn’t given up religion yet, in modern parts if the world you are starting to see religion slowly decay.
Hitting my 50's... I saw that the decay started about the 1980's. The decay is getting worse and so is society every decade and generation since.
@@mmhthree so do you feel that religion should have a resurgence? Or that humanity should grow in the way that this guy in the video says?
@@reeseruss I think it'll have to be a kind of hybrid. Alot of The Bible was lessons on how to best live life on this Earth. Some definite negative stories, etc about how people treated each other. People had some real bad experiences with organized religions, wars, and more.
We need some wisdom on how to make it through all this, and I'm not sure that is being passed on anymore to the new generations. Keep the good about the life lessons and try to remove the negatives of the organized religions.
Wow, a comment I can agree with here. Religion has been our first organized attempt at government (the scaffolding to get us working together better) and the sooner it gets gone the better we all will be, not that government is the ultimate answer.
I was really blown away by this. What an incredible gift JW has for making the difficult to comprehend, easier to understand. As a history teacher, I can't help pointing out the contributions and moral failures of capitalism as well as the intellectual catastrophes of communism. For me, World War One is the watershed. Having traded in God for Progress the inheritors of the Industrial Revolution anticipated our species employing that same innovation to improving the quality of life for all. Instead, we have endured two World Wars, a philosophy by Marx that promised fairness but only insured collective subordination to the state, weapons proliferation and societal apathy. There is no Center and the failure of 19th and 20th century Heroic Materialism as well as the failure of communism has left Western Civilization adrift.
Born in 1965, I can't help but believe that I was born in the Jungian sense, in the wake of World War One.
All of my life, I have known there is more to me than my body, or what I can see or hear. I have been fighting, it seems at times, the whole planet by my refusal to believe in or adhere to the parameters that are set by people who can not see the miracle they just tripped over.
You are all still arguing in the kitchen while I am delivering Grandma's picnic basket.
"The problem with the world is all the smart people are full of doubt and all the stupid people are full of confidence. " Charles Butowski.
The more knowledge && understanding i gain , the more confused i am. Help lol I’m pushing my brain to the brink.
Everyone feels that way
All truths are paradoxical. Knowing you don't know is a headstart over the masses that think they know.
@@somethingelse4150 this.
Simple minded people think they “know”. Intellectuals realize how little they know. The former, however, knows much less than the latter
meditate
love this new look and style to the channel
Feels like it’s imitating MasterClass and even some Netflix docs lol
listening to this man shows me how lost most people are even him. The more people we are the fewer ppl will be save.
The road is simple: be honest about what you really feel, not the conjured up feelings. And then you can you decide to what extent you want to deal with the inner conflicts. Or (temporarily) lead an easy life that avoids the inner conflicts, making you a less truthful person as the unavoidable other side of the coin.
When you smile and say hello to someone you don't know no matter race or sex, if you get a smile back we will be getting closer
"Everybody's got a plan until you get punched in the face!"
Yes People what Worship a Being that Murders innocent Children are Evil I believe they call them Christians🤔🤔🤔
then you become a religious person which is good btw
@Ten toowell that seems a lot of incoherent word Salad Who Gets to Decide what Evil is? I have done wrong things in my life I freely admit that as for you are you a sinner? The Difference is when I do Good I do it freely not coersed by fear of Punishment by a God and my I also point out that the most Religions countries are Statistically the most violent
@Ten too
There is no God. Get over it. Move on.
Optimistic nihilism! The movie "Everything, Everywhere, All at Once" does a fantastic job of summarizing this ideology.
Conclusion: humanity is going primarily through a spiritual health crisis, not a mental health crisis.
Brilliant!! I've perused artistic expression my entire life. Only recently I have felt I'm at a crossroads, again. The Meaning 3.0 as articulated here is a refreshing development. Thank you.
Flat-Earth was best and most funny covered by Wisecrack and Hbomberguy.
And most scientifically covered by Professor Dave and Sci Man Dan.
It’s inspiring to see someone else talking about this! I’ve been working on a personal philosophical experiment for a little while now, attempting to figure out what a modern secular religion would look like, one that would promise to aid in the pursuit of “meaning 3.0,” and it’s been an interesting process. I grew up in a fundamentalist Christian home, and became agnostic in my 20’s when I finally admitted to myself that it was all nonsense. However I still found that I missed that connection to something greater than myself; what if I could find a way to obtain that feeling without the superstitious dogma, outdated morality, and cultish behavior that is so prominent in mainstream religion today?
And so I went on a personal journey to try and find my own meaning for life. I looked into a lot of existing religions, but apart from bits and pieces from practices like Buddhism and nature worship, nothing really seemed like it fit in our modern world anymore. So I thought, since we’re living in an unprecedented time in history, maybe I could just make up my own religion that feels right to me. It started out sort of as a joke, but over time it actually became an important endeavor for me, and so far it’s actually helped my spiritual life more than I could have ever imagined.
Now I’m sort of hitting a brick wall though, because I’ve devised a system for myself, but there is no social aspect to it. And so I have been trying to come up with a way to create a version of this belief system that could be spread to other people, and if designed right it could account for the cultural diversities of our modern global society, with a loose moral code that can be adjusted to different ways of life, but at its base it would be focused on a more egalitarian outlook of humanity, instead of the hierarchical focus of religions like Christianity. I would want it to be structured so that it can allow for various different smaller belief structures within it, so it wouldn’t matter if you think there is one god, or many gods, or no god; all of those beliefs would be valid because there’s no good evidence one way or the other anyway. There’s no point in arguing about the dogma because it’s all just speculation anyway; instead the focus would be on humanitarian efforts to unite people toward the common goal of making a better world for everyone. It would also need to have built in systems for updates as our collective understanding of the human experience improves.
Anyway it’s been an interesting process so far, but I’m getting to the point where I need to start collaborating with people to ensure that it could do what I want it to do, as far as uniting people under a common, democratically determined, humanitarian goal.
If anyone reads this word salad comment and is interested in being a part of this process, shoot me a message. I could use all the input I can get.
really great comment! Do you have any notes you could link me?
You starting a cult?
What you are craving is not "religion" at all, but Jesus Christ. And what you are rejecting is not the true Christian faith, but the same dead Phariseeism that Jesus condemned in the strongest language. Jesus said, "Come to me, all you who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest." He also said, "I am the way, the truth and the life - noone comes to the Father apart from me." And he didn't create a hierarchical organization - that was invented by men.
@@markharris5107 I don't like jesus.. he literally make Job suffer that much, because satan dared him to bet on Job's faith.
I think he likes experimenting on us
Well, the thing is: the whole idea of a new religion is a bit flawed. I mean: people do not need gods. They need faith. And faith doesn't mean believing in a greater someone or things like that, not necessarily at least. Some people have faith in science, and this is positivism, and some in gods, and this is religion. People often strive because they do not have faith in anything, and that is because, after all, there are things that, at least now, cannot be changed, some problems that cannot be resolved. So, my advice is: focus on yourself. Think about what you can have faith in. It can literally be anything. Be your own god.
Jamie Wheal's perspective on the "collapse of meaning" and the search for "Meaning 3.0" is indeed a thought-provoking analysis of our current societal landscape. He paints a vivid picture of the challenges we face as modern humans, overwhelmed by the rapid pace of change and the erosion of traditional structures that once provided stability and guidance.
The concept of "Meaning 1.0" being traditional organized religion and "Meaning 2.0" as modern liberalism is an intriguing framework. Wheal suggests that both of these paradigms are showing cracks in their ability to serve as guiding lights for individuals seeking purpose and direction.
In the absence of these established structures, we are left grappling with a range of responses, from fundamentalism to nihilism, from conspiracy theories to diseases of despair. It's a poignant observation that speaks to the existential crisis many seem to be facing in today's world.
Wheal's proposal of "Meaning 3.0" as a blend of traditional religious wisdom and modern liberal values, without the promise of an escape, is a call to action. It suggests that we must turn inward, mend our traumas, reconnect with sources of inspiration, and forge deeper connections with each other.
This idea resonates with the need for a holistic approach to meaning-making-one that acknowledges the complexities of our human experience and seeks to integrate diverse perspectives and insights. It's a reminder that the search for meaning is an ongoing journey, one that requires us to engage with the world and each other in meaningful ways.
In a time of uncertainty and upheaval, Wheal's message encourages us to embrace the challenges before us and strive for a more integrated, compassionate, and connected way of being. It's a vision of hope amidst the chaos, inviting us to co-create a new narrative of meaning and purpose for our collective future.
in relation to this brilliant video and thoughts. I should share my take away. I went into breathing earlier this year and music creation. My ego took a huge backstage in the past 6 years due to multiple losses. I am grateful that I took that as an opportunity to rethink everything and my own bullshit and my own bliss. As a man with some cultural baggage, it also needed kindness to see what I chose to leave behind and what to take and nourish. thanks for the time reading this.
I am a 68 year old American man, a Baha'i for 36 years.
I volunteer with children and youth. I recently asked a group of teens, around a campfire...What separates a Person from a Pig? One cocky male blurted.. That's easy, we have two legs and pigs have four. Can't argue with that. It certainly lacks depth, but it is a place to start a discussion. Mature Philosophers use the term Rational Soul. Rational alone is not enough, like Descartes..I think therefore I am. And Soul alone is not enough. But, Soul, or we can say Love, guiding Reason
is an excellent distinction. Plus, Pigs write lousy Poetry.
Carl Jung : The Undiscovered Self was the book that helped me understand whats going on today. The self, the individual is under attack.
Well the self has always been under attack by those systems that would have us serve them Religion,Politics etc
@@leebennett1821 like most things, religous systems/ hierarchies are susceptible to becoming corrupt but that doesn't mean the fundamental idea is wrong.
@@JeDxDeVu exactly. Sounds like in this video he's talking about the same problem Nietzsche did when he announced the death of God. Or the crisis of meaning as JBP would say. The solution...whatever it may be, will certainly have a religious aspect to it. One of our problems today is that for alot of people religion has been reduced to a belief in some bearded guy in the sky. They think it's all nonsense. But even if you're not a "true believer " there is still incredibly profound things you can learn from religions.
In some ways, yes. For example, I believe a specialised society encourages an individual to psychologically buttress themselves within their egos. But then those aspects of them which might otherwise flourish are concealed within the unconscious, forever out of reach because they remain "walled off" by an ego whose identity is recursively reconstituted and reinforced by the external environment. When our identity dictates a direction of specialisation, but is also formed from that process of specialisation, then our identity is self-reinforcing. But this prevents psychological growth, and thus precisely the psychological stability which comes from a more holistic and wholesome self-conception.
It kinda boils down to this: one really does need to push themselves out of their comfort zone to grow, and this isn't just spiritual mumbo-jumbo.
Having said that, there's a big but! Freud taught us that the psychological 'self' is a disorganised mess without the constraining influences of culture, influences like parenting, rules, law, social expectations and mores, and more. In short, were it not for constraints (and specialised "avenues" of occupational activity are constraints of a kind), then we wouldn't have an identity worth having. Without socialised constraint, we would just be a jumble of incoherent shite: erratic impulses and undirected drives, random noises, and directionless motor-activity, much like a gurgling baby, quite literally. But too much constraint can prevent psychological growth and cause individual stagnancy and boredom. And herein lay the dilemma. How do you obtain that line of balance? I don't know if that can be answered with laser-precision. But people might determine this for themselves by actively pushing out of their comfort-zone: trying new things, swapping jobs, taking up new hobbies, speaking to people of different backgrounds and beliefs, etc. While this stuff may sound like neoliberal bullshit, and it often is packaged with bullshit neoliberal intent, there's a lot to be said for balance. And honestly, if we take that forward into our domains of activity (our jobs), I believe we will be vastly more competent and successful for it. :)
It isn't about diminishing the individual by rubbing down their peaks, but finding new peaks to raise, such that they have more to their psychology, and such that they can achieve even greater heights in whatever pursuits they select for themselves. That's my view at least. :D
@@cosmiccomedy7394 Totally agree with this brother.
"Nobody exists on purpose. Nobody belongs anywhere. Everybody's gonna die. Come watch TV" - Morty Smith
I find it comforting not scary
nihilism is cringe lol
HAHAHAHAH
@0 0 I'm glad you guys are saying what I'm thinking. Because this intuitively strikes me as the engineered attempt to collapse purpose in exchange for some pseudo-"meaning". Utter bullshit.
When i saw that episode i thought "wait, did doug stanhope write this?"
One remark I heard about Christianity from when I was a child was "Why do Christians care so much about what happens after death, when they are alive now".
What ever you want!! Brexit, environmentalism, football, the pub, socialism. The list is honestly endless ...
I don't read alot. But of the few books I read, Erich Fromms "To have or to be" is a great book from the 70s which tackles a lot of those philosophical questions and gives a perspective on how it could be.
I admit that at some points the book might be a quite idealistic, but it's a good read and a nice ideal...
the world was always crazy. but as we ask more questions to solve our curiosity we find out just how crazy and in plain sight how inhumane and destructive our species are. 🙃
Makes you wonder why we invent the word 'sapient' for ourselves, no?
It's NOT easy to forget that we're just monkeys with clothes where I'm from. I spend time with people and INSTANTLY remember.
Understanding how order fits into chaos is probably something to drive this system as well. Taking the impartial offerings by nature, importance of nurture and communities in upbringings to promote empathy and compassion into a child's heart could prove very liberating for the future generations to come. Taking responsibility of the said future generations rather than blind faith in selfish genes theory is also something that might help ?
I LOVE THIS! Brilliant analysis and thinking for the future and I like how its not some happily ever after stuff and you dont claim to have the answers but a very good base to work from or goal to reach for rather
I have a higher regard for people who do not infantilised other people but who tell the plain unvarnished truth and also look for answers from all the people, regardless of rank or social standing or educational attainment that they come into contact with in their lives. Rare people but highly valuable people to know.
The suspense and closure of the background music can evoke such emotions, that we start to think we are experiencing/ listening to wisdom, whereas we are not.
It just irks me
This guy gets is , 😂
Exactly why I've been advising people for some time now that whenever they feel nerdgasms from watching some philosophical video, watch it again with the subtitles on and with the audio on mute.
Don't get me wrong, the art admirer in me actually appreciates the magic the musicians and visual designers create, but all thought must be examined in a cold and critical light.
@@tiffles3890 precisely 100℅
@@tiffles3890 precisely why organized religion spends a lot of their funds on outward appearances and material, lavish externalities, trying to convince you that’s there’s something there with the “artistry” of it
Science already replaced religion...
People just refuse to believe it works even when it does... But they believe prayer/wishes/magic heals/fixes even when it doesn't.
My faith in God is one of the few things that kept me going in life, especially when I was bullied for my Autism throughout my youth, and misunderstood by those who wished to control me. If religion were to be banned, I can't imagine the repercussions.
This was particularly well said. Change is the only constant however, it's been going on for eons and will continue to march forward in scales we can't perceive or understand in our human vehicle of perception.
None of us can really predict the future and how our human story will play out, but I'm certain the next 30-50 years will be increasingly difficult for all forms of life on Earth...and at our own hands to boot.
The world has gone crazy?
Always have been*
"has" been...
😂
Forreal though
EVERY time period has it's positives; & negitives. In none of them would I have had children; because eventually the next generations will have 💩 all through it. My offspring... the ones I didn't have are %100 safe!
Indeed, people are now suffering from nihilism... Just imagen people living in Europe during the plague, Or during the fall of the Roman Empire where around every corner there was a whole nation of people ready to burn and plunder or be burned and plundered. (giving European examples, since it's my field of expertise)
When you place all the current "bad" into perspective with history, it becomes way less severe. the "bad" eventually leads to progress, even if it takes a while to get there, or if you can't see anyway out at a particular moment, progress will be the eventual outcome.
Nah. It is getting worse. Not the world, the facts, the issues in general. We had terrible wars and plagues. We lived through really tought times.
But there has been ilusions that helped us get through. The major crysis of mankind started a long time ago, with the melancoly and frustrations of the industrial revolution and just increased from there- its an issue within, in terms of belief, identity and so on. He talks some bs (he gives a very weak answer/solution) but he used a good term- meaning.
We can and are our worse enemies.
So, the black plague. Egpytian slave masters. The stockmarket crash. At all these moments most people had something they tought solid that helped then not get into a crysis- belief in god and a heaven, trust in institutions and their apparent ideals...
The problem isnt new, from philosophers to analysts have already tackled it: our crysis involves 2 problens- meaning/belief and understanding. We as species simply havent evolved to handle whats unknow (and apparent threads we cant understand) well. So we came up with explanations. Back in time you could 'understand' the world- not really, but the illusion was enough; Everyone felt more like they were (in a community, social strata and so on) 'in the same page'. And their problems were more obvious and less numerous- the plague? it is the plague. A bear outisde the cave? A bear. Our understanding of the world and the issues we had to mentally juggle were fewer- now were aware of numerous more times, the issues in our country, neighborhood, the other side of the plannet. A serf had to worry about his lord/kings tax and obeying- we have bosses, taxes, bills, political debates, terrorism, raising violence, economical bubbles, viruses (real and digital)- and the list goes on.
Awareness influences it all. Not only the complexity of the world increased exponentially (and will continue to do so) but our awareness of it, alongside that how much of all of that DO impact our lives (globalized world) and we can see it. And when even specialists struggle to understand things, imagine the common folk.
In more practical terms besides belief/meaning, in the past we had 'guidelines' and paths that were normalized and more trusted. Depending on your class and conditions, you had your path in life pretty much clear. The answers part (even because they worked at the time, almost everyone followed then or they were nice illusions). That doesnt apply anymore.
For example you could raise your family for generations in a single business/field- be it farming, mining, a shop. How common is that nowadays? We still have some cases, but they decrease over time.
Once upon a time you got a degree you got a job and you did that same job and raised your family 'happily ever after' (so to speak). Now? That job is no garantee. And if you do follow up on that field you need to constantly actualize against a ever changing landscape that quickly shifts in 2 years.
The point isnt how big is an imminent threat or the real risks and hardships- but how we navigate, think of the future and position ourselves in the world. That is the ground lost. We had a global war of an scale yet unmatched... it was more imminently threatening and hard then our current moment, no doubt. Bombs dropping every night, invasion imminent, atomic bombs. But no matter how much grandiose it was- it was simpler. Yes. Kill the nazis for one side, conquest on the other, each side seeing thenselves as good guys vs bad guys. Those who survived had a much simpler and predictable life to move on. In comparison nowadays biggest problems are a much blurrier and complicated mess that no one can predict how each will affect each other and the extent of consequences. And no simple 'theres the enemy, you shoot you win'.
A good summary in one word: uncertainty. We cant handle it well. Our brains hate it. Research has show, for example, that the impression/fear of loosing a job releases more cortisol (stress, fear, anxiety) then actually losing it. Ask anyone bullied vs a kid who just got in many fights- punchs hurt at the moment and heal, but fearing punches all day long over a long time- thats the terrible part.
Uncertainty summarizes both the meaning and our trouble in understanding a more complex world(because we live in a world we build- a world of meanings, institutions, laws, more complex then the raw material natural world). And, sadly, fake certainties do 'help' on that on an individual level- but theyre the worst on a societal or global scale.
My personal testimony: I don’t think of it as a religion but a relationship with God through Jesus. Following Jesus isn’t a quick trick for happiness but rather a mission for love in all things in life. And it is life changing.
It’s astonishing how His word has been altered and changed by the greedy ulterior motives of different groups and churches.
His word is pure and clear.
We are not to condemn but to love.
The sobering part of all of this is knowing that not everyone is going to make it through this transition. Not in a cataclysmic/apocalyptic sense but many people just are not ready to accept a new way of life and will continue to cling to the old ways even at their own detriment.
For example, one of the biggest internal hurdles I faced this year was finally accepting that religion is artificial and in some cases predatory and oppressive. Once I saw religion for what it really is, the world started making a lot more sense. Society as we know it is a crumbling facade and you'll never move forward until you accept that.
Salvation can be done internally through good works and positive intentions. You don't need to pay your pastor/priest/yogi to do it for you.
Except what you are referring to is the false practice of wrong religions. There is a reason they worked for so long and their is a reason the mind is so sick without it. Even the best ideas with bad execution can fail. So in the process of finding something, first understand why religion worled for so long and why is it not enough now. Really look for an answer instead of making it self evident that, oh well relogion is the worst and anytbing assoxiated with it must be evil.
@@quantum5867 I do practice spirituality but there have been many "religions" since before we had a word for it and all of them* thought they were correct. I'm not saying there's no value in religion but none of them have all the answers. That's because the true answers are within you.
@@notmychairnotmyproblem true answers are within you? What kind of hippie nonsense is that? Yes anyone can invent a religion or a cult for that matter. Heck, I could do it and the same way the guy in the video is doing it. Materialism is also a sorta religion where you make things, whims and desires your god.
In the landscape of all religions, you need to find a system that is the most compatible with modern science and closest to human nature and answers in a logically sound manner things that cannot be answered using science by definition. You live your life according to that religion to give you a foundation and meaning bigger than yourself. Thats how the world worked. We don't need meaning 2.0 or 3.0. Modern human just loves change so much that it is tryibg to fix things that ain't broken.
I fear that the people that see the world as screwed will become the controllers of governments and speed up the inflection point at all costs. This is my greatest fear for my 7 year old daughter. Until then, we love big, dream big, and spread joy to as many people as possible. I always tell my daughter, "you can be a giver or a taker, you are part of the problem or part of the solution."
A quality education is an important starting point to resolve many of these problems.
100% it is the most important part to ending this madness
But then who would worship our benign billionaire philanthropists?
@@Pinstripe6666 philanthropist can exist because uneducated masses don’t know how to live a successful life
Zachary Stein has a good book on exactly this
Kids who are overwhelmed and stressed out won't learn. Teach the teachable, though, including teaching mental wellness skills to those who will listen.
I always thought the Rule of Law replaced organized religions, at least as a function of organized societies.
People need something to believe in. Everyone believes in something. If not a god, then they find something else to worship. Rule of law is not a suitable replacement for religion. In fact, worshipping the state is what led us to some of the very worst ideologies of the 20th century.
In psychological tests, _gratitude_ is the emotion or trait most closely correlated to human happiness. Maybe we need to place increasing cultural value on experiencing and and expressing gratitude to improve our mental health and community connections. It meets most of the criteria set by Mr. Wheal, we just need a way to evangelize for it.
As an afterthought to my earlier "bravo" which still stands, I'd have to challenge the general assertion that the entire world is going crazy. Only a certain demographic is going crazy, the ones grounded in an old and fading paradigm while another demographic that think differently and may be generational element is adapting and meeting challenges and moving boldly and capably into the future and are really often quite impressive in a way that gives you hope for and faith in a fairly solid and large core of human beings.
Of course it doesn't take a. majority of ignorant, disturbed, and malevolent sub groups to gum up and destroy the works. Stay tuned folks, but I choose to remain just slightly optimistic.
We’re just monkeys with clothes. But I don’t see any monkeys launching Saturn V rockets with astromonkeys walking on the moon. I don’t see any monkeys talking on iphones to monkeys on the other side of the world. I don’t see any monkeys composing Mozarts 5th Sonata. Maybe, just maybe, we are more than just monkeys with clothes.
I have to disagree with him on Meaning 2.0. It's been tested, but to say, "everything you've heard on a Ted Talk is a lie," is WILD.
The best synthesis of what is happening right now tapping in to history and sociology🎉🎉
So happy I found it because it' s the voice and messagge of the therapy I did for myself for the past years and what to make a programme to share with the world😍😍😍so grateful for this insights and this wonderful video🌈🌈🥳🥳🥳🥳
Good analysis... Solution wise I dare not comment.
I won’t either lol
I do: it's crap. Let Father Time do his thing, and you'll see.
@@thstroyur Yeah, this guy is a scam artist, or is that just me?
Logic and Reasoning are our tools needed to move forward. We need to deligate Folk Lore, Mythology, Superstition and Willful Ignorance to the Dustbin of History. Cheers from Michael. Australia.
Should be titled "The Coming Antichrist System".
Count me out. Not all of us have lost the plot.
I love the initial analysis. The collapse of traditional narratives, both religious and secular, in times of accelerating change. The proposed solution however seems vague and flaky to me. Maybe I misunderstood the message, but it seems to me as if the proposed answer here is basically eating some mushrooms and going to Burning Man. First of all, this is only a consumer lifestyle for the very privileged and wealthy few. Secondly, it seems completely apolitical, without addressing policy nor building any kind of multitiered social movements. In the end, this becomes just another form of escapism for modern aristocrats, while cloaked in the lofty rhetoric of social transformation. We've seen this before many times. It's a distraction from and a justification for the status quo.
I suggest you look into Robert Ornstein's newly published God 4.0
correct
agreed
I feel that what is truly missing from the world is love. Love comes in a myriad of ways. To love oneself, to love someone else, to love the things you have, to love the people around you, to love what we have lost, to love nature, to love the natural world, to love the many relationships you could and have with other people and animals, to love those you disagree with, to love those you agree with, to love animals, to love the many ways human are, to love food, to love music, to love the arts, to love the connections we have. Our current society does not have love, for love is hard to practice and hate is easy to feel. Many people don't experience love. Love without asking something in return, love given just becsuse, love expressed for no reason but to express it. We do not experience love, true love. For that is the hardest to show, to feel, and to accept. Love is what can save the world, but for it to work we must learn to give love and to recieve it. But both are hard to do, and the way we are now is tearing us apart.
Focusing on lack of love is focusing on the symptom, rather than the illness. Love is lost when people become spiritually separated, where everyone becomes the competitor, opponent, and out-group. Division is the root cause of suffering. The solution is to dissolve the boundaries, especially to become One.
More specifically, what's missing is compassion. This is a specific kind of love. It's love that doesn't rely on familiarity (familial love), intimacy (romantic love), or similarity (empathy).
It's the belief that people we don't know, are not close to, and have nothing in common with, deserve well-being and the chance to flourish. What we see too often is love that only extends as far as our own families, communities, races, and nations. Cultivating compassion is as important as cultivating critical thinking for the future of our species.
@@BrentARJ finally something that made sense.
Amen to that. God is love 💕 🙏
Love is a slippery slope
Be kind! Be stoic! Be helpful! Be honest! Don’t believe the men who have stolen the world’s wealth. Be comfortable with who you are as a person. You will live a good life with or without money. Love your family. Don’t trust these thieves. They want slavery for the world.
We came here to experience the physical world. That's it! There is no mystery to life. We breathe, and when we stop breathing, we cease to experience this earth. So, we enjoy it while we are here and take good care of it. Remember to breathe!
Being on a self journey is scary. Even myself was almost sucked Into cult like religion. But we have to keep that knowledge in our mind and remember if it sounds too good to be true,it probably is. Also get over the idea of needing to belong to a group. While u may need friends, you don't have to belong to a certain group. That sense of wanting to belong is what gets us into trouble
That is what narrow nationalism and religion does to people. Many religions are slavery of the mind. People have to be very careful not to surrender their minds to false Gods or false promises. Many people in Ireland, including myself, are undergoing a profound change in our relationships with our established religions and political beliefs. This will lead to profound changes in Irish society in the very near future.
The Catholic Church destructively and tyrannically effected Irish Society since the European wars of Religion in the 16th century. Because of Empire building and taking part in secular politics organised religion has split the island into factions, the effects of which we see to this very day in Northern Ireland.
Thank you very much. First deeply intelligent positive proposal I hear about how to heal humanity. However, based on where we are headed at the end of 2021, I have severe doubts we can get close to 3.0 before it's way too late.
For an understanding of our meaning, purpose and the spiritual (not religious) plan for our world check out The Ageless Wisdom Teachings by Alice Bailey and Djwhal Khul, published by The Lucis Trust/Lucis Publishing Company. When I discovered these books 35 years ago it gave me an understanding of the world we live in, what has gone before and what is to come. The books are outstanding.
The world is too noisy. There’s too much noise and chaos that we can’t simply turn that off.