I, for one, would LOVE to see UT scheduled to play @UH considering how much they have not wanted to do that over the last several years. I'm guessing the reception they'd get would be less than warm, lol.
Boise can't join the Big 12 their stadium doesn't meet Big 12 requirements hell I would rather have Tulsa than Boise Tulsa plays in the same cream puff conference that Cincinnati plays in Cincinnati is overrated they're going to go right back to big bottom feeders they had a couple of good seasons but they're running over
@@jdwilmoth5968 Boise State is expanding their stadium to 50,000 by 2028 though…… Also Boise State very much wants to/ needs to get out of the MWC, because the MWC is renagging on their contract and trying to reduce their allocations by nearly 50%. When Boise State chose to stay with the MWC instead of going to the Big East (that would have inevitably landed them in the AAC) the MWC agreed to give them a special contract that gave the program $5 million more than any other MWC school. The MWC is now trying to equalize all contracts as of 2019, which violates their agreement and was the entire reason they stayed in the conference in the first place. Unfortunately while this program obviously should be in the PAC12 they will never meet the PAC12 post doctoral/research and international ranking requirements so they need to get into the B12
Boise State has clearly been a ready P5 program for decades. They literally haven’t had a losing season since 1996 (2nd best in the country) and since 2000 they hold the 2nd best record of all teams. In 21 years they have 15 conference titles, and even years they haven’t been necessarily good they are still competitive. This past year they went 7-5 but beat 2 Top 20 teams and nearly beat a Top 10 team in the B12 runner up. Also if the B12 adds them soon the B12 could get significant revenue from their ridiculous OOC schedules with upcoming games against Oregon, USC, UCLA, Washington, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Louisville, NC State, UNC, FSU (they also have OOC games against Oklahoma State, UCF, Cincinnati, Baylor, BYU and UH). This is a team that’s not afraid to travel or schedule really anyone Nobody in the B12 really has these marquee matchups. Granted BSU really needs to fix a lot of holes in their team and coaching staff.
@@jdwilmoth5968 Did you forget that Cincinnati won 5 conference titles in the Big East? A conference that included West Virginia, Virginia Tech, Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers, USF, Louisville, Temple and UConn. Their past season actually tied their best season ever when in 2009 they went 12-0 and finished #3 in the country. Granted they didn’t deserve this rank over TCU or Boise State (like it’s not even close; TCU had 3 Top 20 wins by 107-45 w/ the #1 defense in the country and Boise State slaughtered the #7 PAC champ by 18, had back to back undefeated seasons and #1 offense in the country). But the BCS gave Cincinnati more credence because of the perceived value of that team even though it wasn’t statistically accurate. More convincingly was the common opponents with BSU: Cincinnati vs Miami: 37-24; Boise State vs Miami 48-0 Cincinnati vs Fresno State 28-20; Boise State vs Fresno State: 52-24.
What baffles me, is the comment "we can't go to Orlando and lose again, take whatever money you want." Is this in defense of the power that the Big 12 conference gains in adding these teams or is it an insult to lose to UCF? One could argue it's more impactful to go to lose in Vandy, Mississippi State or any one of the bottom of the barrel SEC teams than a UCF team that's been on the national stage and relevant within the past 5 years
@@KNIGHT-T1ME yeah, when he said that they don't want to be hanging around with these "low lifes" doesn't actually mean that the new teams are low lifes, but is referring to the absurd god-complexes of Texas and OU, mainly Texas.
What a great move of Cincy, Houston, and UCF as well as BYU, which will totally offset loss of UT and Oklahoma, the very best available (much better than Syracuse, BC). Could turn Big 12 into the recruiting powers of B1G and SEC now that they'll have access to the Florida market, Ohio, Mountain region, and Southeast Texas/LA. Also will bury the other 5 conferences in metro populations and truly national followings. BYU's national following could be comparable to USC's. UCF's 70K students and massive alumni base is insane. Poor UT and OklaU will get humbled by arrogant SEC powerhouses the way Penn State was back when it joined the Big 10; irony is Texas having to face A&M again regularly. Pac12 blew it by not adding BYU, B1G by not grabbing UH or Cincy or UCF.
Man you're delusional if you think those four cream puffs will offset the loss of Oklahoma and Texas that's what they are it's cream puffs except BYU they're probably the only one of the four that actually played power 5 teams Cincinnati's had a couple of winning seasons big deal they will go right back to being garbage just like UCF they're not going to continue to have good seasons they're powder puffs and so is Houston the Big 12 shouldn't even be a power five conference after Oklahoma and Texas leaves
@@jdwilmoth5968 because Texas is just incredible lol. Texas is gonna be at the bottom with Vanderbilt in the SEC. Texas couldn’t win in the Big 12 they have one of the greatest recruiting grounds in their front yard. Watch Cincinnati takeover Oklahomas annual spot atop the Big 12.
@@davidschaefer3201 I agree about the short horns but of course every year they keep saying they're back they get out recruited in their own state by Oklahoma and I don't know about Cincinnati taking Oklahoma's spot I think Oklahoma State might be the one to take over the Big 12 as much as I hate Oklahoma State I used to actually root for Oklahoma State unless they were playing my Sooners now I root for whoever they are playing against even if it's Texas believe it or not since Mike gundy come down with a wokenesd and bowed down to chubba Hubbard gundy needs to wipe the chubba Hubbard off of his chin Cincinnati played in a cream puffs conference that's the only reason they had as many wins as they did how they barely beat Tulsa I would actually like to see Tulsa during the Big 12 but they can't because their stadium doesn't meet requirements I don't think Cincinnati is going to be relevant just because they've been winning the last few seasons don't mean it's going to continue just like UCF But from what I'm hearing the short horns are having second thoughts about going to the Southeast conference they may decide to stick around in the Big 12 since Oklahoma's leaving they might have a chance to actually win a conference championship And yeah you're right that longhorns are incredible incredible about whining when things don't go their way I hate the longhorns
I kind of hope so so that the new chapter of the league will start as soon as possible, but I also want that level of competition for the new teams to play against to get them ready for when they get to 12 teams.
I don't see how the current Grant of Rights structure can hold OU and Tejas with the addition of new schools. I think when the dust settles, you will see the Big XII and OU - UTerus come to an agreement to part ways due to the addition of schools before the grant of rights is up for the departing programs.
UCF humiliated a vaunted Baylor team almost a decade ago in BCS Fiesta Bowl, so near parity already. It was the UT's of the Power 5 conferences battling to block BYU, Cincy, UH, and UCF from challenging them with the recruiting power and revenue a Power 5 membership brings.
I don't think they can since the other four teams will be joining the Big 12 and 2023 I don't think Texas and Oklahoma will have to pay a buy out now but I could be wrong
@@jdwilmoth5968 That’s what I think. The current deal is being altered. I don’t see how legally they can bind OU and Texas to a deal that’s not what they agreed to. We will see but I think this will be the catalyst that gets OU and Texas out early.
@@paul44foster I don't think they can hold OU to the original deal because the revenue was supposed to be split up between 10 teams not 14 that will take money out of OU and Texas is pockets I think this upcoming season will be the last season the Sooners are in the Big 12 I don't care lessons I don't care if they go or not and from what I'm hearing they are having a second thoughts about joining the Southeast conference they don't want to be another Vanderbilt if they were smart they would stay in the Big 12 they might actually have a chance to beat the king of the conference with Oklahoma leaving but I doubt it
@@jdwilmoth5968 - Since the date that OUnUT tried to kill the BIG12 they don't have a vote in conference matters and are locked in to the exit clauses they previously agreed to. No matter whatever changes were made to the conference after their announcement to leave, OUnUT will abide by what they agreed to. Hopefully costing each $80+million as the door hits them in their entitled blow-blood asses on their way ouut. I'd love to see both OUnUT have to play all 4 newcomers on the road in 2023. Fecal matter on the cake for the treasonous attempted murderers to suck up.
Maybe he just said that to push Bohannan, because I don’t know how or why you would replace a guy who not only won 10 games in the regular season, but a conference title and bowl game, and the Sugar Bowl of all bowl games, not the Texas Bowl. If you can explain that to me, as long as it’s not a Charlie Brewer Utah situation, good luck.
@@ht82smash42 who cares how many yards he had passing this is not the NFL this is real football QBs are suppose to be able to run and throw that is what real QBs can do not just throw
I, for one, would LOVE to see UT scheduled to play @UH considering how much they have not wanted to do that over the last several years. I'm guessing the reception they'd get would be less than warm, lol.
As much as I hate UT, UT would murder Houston college
Definitely. It's been 20 years since texas last played us. They've been avoiding it like the plague haha
If Houston fans can get up like that for the other big 12 Texas teams like ttu or Baylor then I think the new conference could be special
There are still marks on the Royal memorial turf where Andre Ware touched the Horns!!
I'd love to see OUnUT both have to play all 4 newcomers on the road in 2023. How can I become conference commissioner and make this happen?
Bosie? I can see Nebraska returning too. Remember how rude the Big10 treated them for wanting to play in covid.
If the Big 12 will even have them now if they try to crawl back.
Boise can't join the Big 12 their stadium doesn't meet Big 12 requirements hell I would rather have Tulsa than Boise Tulsa plays in the same cream puff conference that Cincinnati plays in Cincinnati is overrated they're going to go right back to big bottom feeders they had a couple of good seasons but they're running over
@@jdwilmoth5968 Boise State is expanding their stadium to 50,000 by 2028 though……
Also Boise State very much wants to/ needs to get out of the MWC, because the MWC is renagging on their contract and trying to reduce their allocations by nearly 50%. When Boise State chose to stay with the MWC instead of going to the Big East (that would have inevitably landed them in the AAC) the MWC agreed to give them a special contract that gave the program $5 million more than any other MWC school. The MWC is now trying to equalize all contracts as of 2019, which violates their agreement and was the entire reason they stayed in the conference in the first place.
Unfortunately while this program obviously should be in the PAC12 they will never meet the PAC12 post doctoral/research and international ranking requirements so they need to get into the B12
Boise State has clearly been a ready P5 program for decades. They literally haven’t had a losing season since 1996 (2nd best in the country) and since 2000 they hold the 2nd best record of all teams. In 21 years they have 15 conference titles, and even years they haven’t been necessarily good they are still competitive. This past year they went 7-5 but beat 2 Top 20 teams and nearly beat a Top 10 team in the B12 runner up.
Also if the B12 adds them soon the B12 could get significant revenue from their ridiculous OOC schedules with upcoming games against Oregon, USC, UCLA, Washington, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Louisville, NC State, UNC, FSU (they also have OOC games against Oklahoma State, UCF, Cincinnati, Baylor, BYU and UH). This is a team that’s not afraid to travel or schedule really anyone
Nobody in the B12 really has these marquee matchups. Granted BSU really needs to fix a lot of holes in their team and coaching staff.
@@jdwilmoth5968 Did you forget that Cincinnati won 5 conference titles in the Big East?
A conference that included West Virginia, Virginia Tech, Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers, USF, Louisville, Temple and UConn.
Their past season actually tied their best season ever when in 2009 they went 12-0 and finished #3 in the country.
Granted they didn’t deserve this rank over TCU or Boise State (like it’s not even close; TCU had 3 Top 20 wins by 107-45 w/ the #1 defense in the country and Boise State slaughtered the #7 PAC champ by 18, had back to back undefeated seasons and #1 offense in the country). But the BCS gave Cincinnati more credence because of the perceived value of that team even though it wasn’t statistically accurate.
More convincingly was the common opponents with BSU:
Cincinnati vs Miami: 37-24; Boise State vs Miami 48-0
Cincinnati vs Fresno State 28-20; Boise State vs Fresno State: 52-24.
With all those teams joining snd ou leaving maby baylor can win the big twelve legitimtly
Legitimately like they just did! U live under a rock or what?
What baffles me, is the comment "we can't go to Orlando and lose again, take whatever money you want." Is this in defense of the power that the Big 12 conference gains in adding these teams or is it an insult to lose to UCF? One could argue it's more impactful to go to lose in Vandy, Mississippi State or any one of the bottom of the barrel SEC teams than a UCF team that's been on the national stage and relevant within the past 5 years
It's definitely worse to lose to Kansas
I believe he is referring to the pride of Texas fans. If they lost to any of the new teams Texas fans would implode. I don't take it as an insult.
@@KNIGHT-T1ME yeah, when he said that they don't want to be hanging around with these "low lifes" doesn't actually mean that the new teams are low lifes, but is referring to the absurd god-complexes of Texas and OU, mainly Texas.
I've always appreciated Texas for being the first team to play at the Bounce House. I hope UCF gets to play at UT.
@@2017NationalChamps What a fun time that was...minus the fact we were all sitting in a lightning rod haha
What a great move of Cincy, Houston, and UCF as well as BYU, which will totally offset loss of UT and Oklahoma, the very best available (much better than Syracuse, BC). Could turn Big 12 into the recruiting powers of B1G and SEC now that they'll have access to the Florida market, Ohio, Mountain region, and Southeast Texas/LA. Also will bury the other 5 conferences in metro populations and truly national followings. BYU's national following could be comparable to USC's. UCF's 70K students and massive alumni base is insane. Poor UT and OklaU will get humbled by arrogant SEC powerhouses the way Penn State was back when it joined the Big 10; irony is Texas having to face A&M again regularly. Pac12 blew it by not adding BYU, B1G by not grabbing UH or Cincy or UCF.
Man you're delusional if you think those four cream puffs will offset the loss of Oklahoma and Texas that's what they are it's cream puffs except BYU they're probably the only one of the four that actually played power 5 teams Cincinnati's had a couple of winning seasons big deal they will go right back to being garbage just like UCF they're not going to continue to have good seasons they're powder puffs and so is Houston the Big 12 shouldn't even be a power five conference after Oklahoma and Texas leaves
@@jdwilmoth5968 because Texas is just incredible lol. Texas is gonna be at the bottom with Vanderbilt in the SEC. Texas couldn’t win in the Big 12 they have one of the greatest recruiting grounds in their front yard. Watch Cincinnati takeover Oklahomas annual spot atop the Big 12.
@@davidschaefer3201 I agree about the short horns but of course every year they keep saying they're back they get out recruited in their own state by Oklahoma and I don't know about Cincinnati taking Oklahoma's spot I think Oklahoma State might be the one to take over the Big 12 as much as I hate Oklahoma State I used to actually root for Oklahoma State unless they were playing my Sooners now I root for whoever they are playing against even if it's Texas believe it or not since Mike gundy come down with a wokenesd and bowed down to chubba Hubbard gundy needs to wipe the chubba Hubbard off of his chin Cincinnati played in a cream puffs conference that's the only reason they had as many wins as they did how they barely beat Tulsa I would actually like to see Tulsa during the Big 12 but they can't because their stadium doesn't meet requirements I don't think Cincinnati is going to be relevant just because they've been winning the last few seasons don't mean it's going to continue just like UCF
But from what I'm hearing the short horns are having second thoughts about going to the Southeast conference they may decide to stick around in the Big 12 since Oklahoma's leaving they might have a chance to actually win a conference championship
And yeah you're right that longhorns are incredible incredible about whining when things don't go their way I hate the longhorns
Quantity wise it’s a bit off to describe BYUs following to USC
@@jdwilmoth5968 well one of those "cream puffs" have more draft picks than the entire current Big 12, let alone UT and OU.
UH a low life!?!? I can’t wait for UH to play UT once again. I’ll be there at every game
As well as kill them in basketball badly.
Yea for 1 year maybe lol
If USF got an invite that would be a huge market for Big 12
😂😂😂 Take whatever money it takes we can’t go to Orlando and lose again…. Dead
I kind of hope so so that the new chapter of the league will start as soon as possible, but I also want that level of competition for the new teams to play against to get them ready for when they get to 12 teams.
After UT's last decade of losing, it's no longer embarrassing.
Low life's huh
Which core value encouraged A&M to chose a football team stadium entrance song laced with profanities including racial slurs?
UCF looks pretty stacked this year and will only get stronger that is if UCF can keep Gus once he has a winning year.
Does the Big 12 know something about Ok and UT leaving early?
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UT And OU will leave in 2024 because of the UT/ Bama one and one
They will be in the southeast conference for the 2023 season
I don't see how the current Grant of Rights structure can hold OU and Tejas with the addition of new schools. I think when the dust settles, you will see the Big XII and OU - UTerus come to an agreement to part ways due to the addition of schools before the grant of rights is up for the departing programs.
UCF humiliated a vaunted Baylor team almost a decade ago in BCS Fiesta Bowl, so near parity already. It was the UT's of the Power 5 conferences battling to block BYU, Cincy, UH, and UCF from challenging them with the recruiting power and revenue a Power 5 membership brings.
I don't think they can since the other four teams will be joining the Big 12 and 2023 I don't think Texas and Oklahoma will have to pay a buy out now but I could be wrong
@@jdwilmoth5968 That’s what I think. The current deal is being altered. I don’t see how legally they can bind OU and Texas to a deal that’s not what they agreed to. We will see but I think this will be the catalyst that gets OU and Texas out early.
@@paul44foster I don't think they can hold OU to the original deal because the revenue was supposed to be split up between 10 teams not 14 that will take money out of OU and Texas is pockets I think this upcoming season will be the last season the Sooners are in the Big 12 I don't care lessons I don't care if they go or not and from what I'm hearing they are having a second thoughts about joining the Southeast conference they don't want to be another Vanderbilt if they were smart they would stay in the Big 12 they might actually have a chance to beat the king of the conference with Oklahoma leaving but I doubt it
@@jdwilmoth5968 - Since the date that OUnUT tried to kill the BIG12 they don't have a vote in conference matters and are locked in to the exit clauses they previously agreed to. No matter whatever changes were made to the conference after their announcement to leave, OUnUT will abide by what they agreed to. Hopefully costing each $80+million as the door hits them in their entitled blow-blood asses on their way ouut. I'd love to see both OUnUT have to play all 4 newcomers on the road in 2023. Fecal matter on the cake for the treasonous attempted murderers to suck up.
What about BYU?
Do the four new teams get to attend meetings but not vote?
Like a Puerto Rican Congressman
I don’t know. I wonder if it’s just for this year and then they will be able to next year as members, or if they have to wait until Texlahoma leave.
bonehead move by Dave Aranda Bohanon is the better QB by far Baylor will not have a good year
Maybe he just said that to push Bohannan, because I don’t know how or why you would replace a guy who not only won 10 games in the regular season, but a conference title and bowl game, and the Sugar Bowl of all bowl games, not the Texas Bowl. If you can explain that to me, as long as it’s not a Charlie Brewer Utah situation, good luck.
I guess he saw a QB who didn't play well in the Sugar Bowl. He only had like 48 yards passing
@@ht82smash42 who cares how many yards he had passing this is not the NFL this is real football QBs are suppose to be able to run and throw that is what real QBs can do not just throw