The reason I did a recap of MCCS development is to show things didn’t really take off until 2020 and deserves more content. I forgot to mention that 343 Industries explored making Spartan Points purchasable to create revenue for MCC but scrapped the idea because of backlash from Halo fan. Also, shoutout to my source for speaking with me! They told me they werent always informed of wider business plans for 343 and Microsoft since they were a contractor and not full time so there could be nuance that they’re missing. So keep that in mind.
The worst part is that MCC isn’t nearly complete. There’s still numerous bugs and promised features left on the table…not to mention the idea of mod support on Xbox or server rentals. Just because we shot down buying Spartan Points because Infinite’s store sucks doesn’t mean there aren’t other methods to fairly monetize MCC that enough people could get behind.
@@admiralmallard7500paid for mods that reach a certain quality of mod and a support a creator feature etc. completely new multiplayer maps paid for with brand new content etc. some paid dlc they made entire games dlc whats the difference with that? Mmc can be monetized in other ways
@@admiralmallard7500 Server renting would be one way for sure. Doesn't guarantee a consistent revenue stream at the rate of small consumable transactions do, but that is something to consider.
If this report is true, then this further confirms that I have more beef with Microsoft than I do with 343 when it comes to how Halo is being handled, especially nowadays that 343 has new leadership.
After Pierre Hintze took Bonnie Ross’ position it really did seem like things were going to get better. Hell, it did for a bit. Feels like Microsoft is actively trying to kneecap its biggest gaming IP.
Nah, 343 is just as much to blame as Microsoft. Microsoft can demand certain things be in a game, but 343 has the ability to implement those requirements how they want.
I’m pretty sure that Microsoft doesn’t care about halo at all, they sadly only care about call of duty, but I think that would change it halo was on all platforms…. It would finally have a chance
@@tylerm5862 yeah they’ve really supported the halo franchise so much! Why would you stop the support of MCC, just makes no sense unless you don’t care about the IP or the long run of the franchise, also he said it became playable in 2018 lmao that’s not 10 years of support
@@Soulshock3 Actually it makes a lot of sense. Those games are already over 10 years old, some of them over 20. They are all fully available and more! Yet here we are complaining about them stopping support on games that have been over delivered to us? I mean..... I guess we just don't think about it like that.
@@tylerm5862 Overdelivered? What could you possibly mean? Every one of those games is unbelievably broken. They only JUST made Halo 2's multiplayer even REMOTELY PLAYABLE as of the previous patch. It was unplayable. None of the Campaigns have cross-play support. There are still numerous visual bugs and glitches in the Campaigns, including entire parts of Halo 3's cutscenes that don't even exist. They only recently fixed Halo 4's lighting bug on Shutdown. I could go on and on. There's also an ENORMOUS hacker problem that has DESTROYED the matchmaking multiplayer experience for ALL GAMES. Overdelivered? No, absolutely not. Underdelivered, and still underbaked. Master Chief Collection is in an arguably WORSE state than LAUNCH. Just admit you don't care about it instead of pretending you do.
Hopefully they do come back to it. Since development on Infinite is winding down, maybe some MCC updates could fill the gaps in the time before the next Halo release.
@D4RKASSASSING4MER201 No. Before the game EVER comes to PS. What MCC needs is Mod playlists to be released on Xbox!! PC has about 60% more content than Xbox players.. on a "Xbox exclusive" game.
they really should add content to halo 2. it got left out. thankful for the shot registration update though. But some weapon skins at least would be a nice addition. #halo2
Everybody kicked off about the option to purchase exchange points, I was so pissed when they cancelled it because I knew that was the beginning of the end of MCC content support
@@thunderslug1066Well, regardless. That doesn't excuse the fact that Microsoft was trying to add MTX's into MCC in attempt to cash cow the franchise even further in a disrespectful manner. Nevermind the amount of crap we been through in MCC, the messy bugs, broken multiplayer, and the list goes on and on. At the very least, they should've let us community manage MCC and add any MCC community made mods possible to play on the Xbox instead of that MTX's nonsense. No matter where you slice it, Microsoft is literally being anti-consumer to the true die hard halo fans that have been with franchise for as long as I can remember.
Yes. Yes it would be the worst thing. This is a full priced game they sold us a decade ago that still doesn't work. Fuck off. No Monetization system in MCC.
If they can fix it. Either way, I don't think it will become open source until Microsoft abandons the xbox one games entirely. They could still release this game on other platforms. Wouldn't do that if it was open platform
@@admiralmallard7500 Agreed. It’s obviously more complicated than it sounds, but in the spirit of keeping the game and content alive I’d be all for it.
Unreal Tournament (1999) is a perfect example of a game long-since abandoned help up by a strong community that cares about the game. Very few players on it these days, but tons of tons of servers are still up, and the few who play are very active
It doesn't help that the state of MCC is not great, even after all the work that was put in by developer teams focusing on different aspects of the MCC. Campaign co-op is still just as broken as it was when it released. It is plagued with connectivity issues, de-sync, input delay, a complete lack of PC to Console cross-play, and if that wasn't enough: flat out crashing some PCs that attempt to play it.
It was as suspected after all. Hopefully, people stop blaming the developers for all of the problems with Halo's development. Thanks as usual, Rebs! You are a shining star in our sea of pessimism.
Stop blaming the developers? The collection was UNPLAYABLE for nearly FIVE YEARS. It is absolutely the developers fault for the state the entire franchise is in. 343 easily ranks in the bottom of all game current game developers.
@@Kandranos And those people are all gone. None of them are left. Who are you blaming? Somebody ruins a house, you blame the tenants who move in afterwards and start fixing it?
Microsoft couldn't care less about Halo. They milked the franchise for as long as they could until it simply dried up like a raisin. Microsoft never liked Bungie because they couldn't control the free spirit and creativity of Bungie (a company who loved human connection and imagination). When Bungie couldnt take anymore of their shit in 2010 and decided to leave, Microsoft created 343 to be their little compliant worker bee, their tool to continue to Milk the franchise with. 343 became their Egor to Dracula. If we want to resurrect Halo we need Microsoft to give up the rights to Halo all together and start from the ground up again with small scale teams that are passionate about and understand the original Bungie games.
I would still love too see a Custom gamed browser for mods on Pc at somepoint there are loads of amazing multiplayer mods out there thag people of pored so much passion and effort into but will never have the same exposure thag single player mods have because you can't use the customs browser woth anti cheat off so the only way you can play multiplayer modded content is if you go out of your way too find and organise game nights which can be a massive struggle, doesn't seem like it would be a massive undertaking to simply have a separate customs browser you can access with anti chest turned off......
I got this when on sale i thought ita just a compilation of 6 halo games. They were actively developing it? What does that mean? They should have added in subtitles for the earlier halo games.
If Microsoft wants MCC to generate revenue in order to continue development for it then I think that releasing it on PlayStation 5 and the next gen Switch is a good way for that to happen. Also I do wonder how long until we get the next main Halo game, I’m personally thinking the end of 2027, and if it’s going to be a while, MCC getting the spotlight again alongside Infinite’s ongoing sustainment would be a good way to pass the time.
That's what a lot of people are speculating as to why the last few updates for Infinite have been real lack luster and why shop prices are so high. (There's also the fact that they're probably still understaffed. By the fact they're still hiring for an "Audio Director" and "Lead Game Designer".) They're getting ready to move on to the next Halo game. And too be fair, it is about time. The Halo game has an average life span of about 3 years and then next one releases. It'll be 3 years of Infinite by November of this year. We are due for the next Halo game.
343 should implore MS that MCC should continue to receive development. When 343 asked us (the community) about Spartan Points costing money no context was given that if not, then MCC would shut down. Furthermore, when 343 asked the community the timing was really BAD. Halo Infinite was going through its terrible phase with monetization so of course the community thought when 343 said 'money' with MCC they meant a similar bad experience. I really doubt anyone is against some form of MCC monetization AS LONG AS non of the original content is paywalled. 343 stopped work on MCC for a few years and then came back to really make it better ... they can comeback to MCC and continue the fun one day again I hope ... but not getting my hopes up for it more than wishful thinking.
Microsoft is one of the world's 3 biggest companies - raking in TRILLIONS in profit year over year Ur saying that they can't cut out 100 milly to keep Halo alive? For f@#! Sake! 5:18
I knew that this had to be a Microsoft decision throughout this entire time of them trying so hard to forcing 343i to implementing Micro-transactions into MCC which thankfully didn't happen, we've been through so many buggy messes since launch. It's very disrespectful that Microsoft still continues to diminishing the legacy, and the identity of the halo franchise for the sake of forcefully appealing to a broader audience that has never played a single halo title and also them having unrealistic expectations of a halo game to make their revenue off those people. It's the management and the consumers who buy into their garbage that's killing this franchise as a whole even further. The same can be said for many other games in the modern gaming era we're dealing with right now. Microsoft can still maintain this franchise without having micro-transactions at all, but, they simply chose not to because they are greedy and they're after the people who will buy their garbage. It's very sad that many IP's are going through almost the same thing that the halo franchise is going through right now. I really don't like seeing the current state of the halo franchise, and I want this franchise to thrive, not to decline downwards.
Nunca creí sentirme tan aliviado de que pararan el desarrollo de un Halo, pero si esto significa que no salga de Xbox y siga siendo exclusivo pues bueno.
This isn't really news here. It's pretty clear when 343 asked if users would ok with them adding micro transactions and the community said no so we don't get any additional updates. They can't spend money where they won't make money
I don’t care, I got my moneys worth. i was able to reply all the Halo campaigns and beat them on legendary in the mcc. Campaigns pretty much feel 1 to 1 as I remember it from back to the CE days. idc about multiplayer, I didnt buy it for that, and im sure others agree they mostly bought it for the campaigns too.
We need to rise up as a community and hate on Microsoft I feel so bad for 343 they got all this hate but it's all Microsofts fault 343 can't do what we want them to do. 😅
None of that will matter because you regards are still going to give them money regardless of what they do. Plus, I highly doubt Microsoft execs even care what a bunch of random people they’ll never interact with in real life think.
So you're saying it's the fans are partially to blame as well. Because I remember they wanted to implement a system where you buy spartan points, but everyone including myself was against that. Honestly, it would've been dumb to do because it's so easy getting spartan points from challenges and ranking up.
Microsoft clearly forgot the primary reason we all brought Xboxes in the first place, for their Flagship game series, Halo. Now they want to stain their own legacy with mud and kick all five (plus Halo 4) to the curb. If Microsoft want a game that can compete with the viral hype Helldivers is bringing Sony, this ain't the way to do it.
I wish they would remove an invisibility boundary and remove death barrier outside of forge world because I saw outside land is huge massive land. We should be able to building. Also halo 3 forge need to adding more objection item like sand trap, lockdown should use a lot of block and remove death barrier too.
MCC ended in a great spot, but damn one or two big updates to add further crossplay, 4 player co-op to CE and 2, convenient mod support for custom games, and an increase to player count would've made it eternal and self-sustaining.
Spartan points should have been monetized. None of the new customization holds any weight anyway besides game time. Maybe they'll reconsider down the road. Server renting could be another potential stream that'd just be positive overall.
Yupp all bc halo infinite is so dead. So bc MCC team saved MCC they must be able to save infinite too right lol no jokes on us they are continuing with micro transactions. We need more guns, vehicles, btb and squad battle maps. Maybe even bigger lobbies than 24 players
343: We are considering adding optional way to earn in-game cosmetics by paying for them to fund future support of MCC Players: Absolutely no 343: We are ending Halo MCC support Players: *shocked Pikachu face* Honestly, it was obvious that future support would end moment that community decided against microtransactions.
Yeah rightfully so, I don't blame the halo community being against MTX's. MCC for years was plagued full of issues including the multiplayer at launch which didn't work at all and it would take upwards of 40 minutes to find a match regardless of time you were playing the game. In 2015/16 The game literally sat dormant for a few years with hardly any bug fixing updates during that time, then the PC port got announced in 2019 then got released which only had reach in the collection on MCC, but to my disappointment I then learned that all of the other halo games weren't playable yet on the PC port of MCC which took 343i another full year to port all of the other halo games in the collection to PC which presented a considerable amount of bugs. The list goes on and on, and you saying among the lines of we should deal with MTX's no matter what kind of dismissiveness over a game that was neglected for the past decade, just adds insult to injury. The original halo games deserve better than this. We need to implement modding support for Xbox and 343i needs to let us community manage MCC if 343i aren't able to officially support it anymore. What's the point of letting these games rot? Makes no sense to me.
@@gran_turismo_fan Lol. But 343 didn't want to introduce MTXs when MCC was broken. The wanted to introduce them in 2022 (if I remember correctly), when all games were perfectly playable (outside of framerate issues in H2A campaign on Series X/S) and they also brought additional content and features. So you whole schtik is literally pointless. 343 was pretty clear - they need source of revenue if playerbase wanted new content and features. Playerbase rejected it. So at least don't act surprised when 343 pulled the plug. There is nothing wrong with playerbase rejecting MTXs in game. But they knew consequences. Or they really thought that 343 will continue to put resources into that collection without any ROI?
@@Godot25Well regardless, they didn't need to monetize MCC anyway. These games were never centered around MTX's anyway nor should it be encouraged or be brought into MCC. That's why the halo community is against MTX's in the first place. A lot of what I said about MCC's buggy messes was true back when MCC came out in 2014 on the Xbox one and even then, there were also some buggy messes too when they were porting the halo games into the PC port of MCC, that's an irrefutable fact that you cannot deny nor is it false. If you don't believe me, do your research online and you tell me on how really broken it was back then. It seems to me you never played halo MCC from the very start when there were a lot of issues that took 343i years to fix. So no, 343i or Microsoft as a company doesn't deserve our hard earned cash for making continuous failures that they never learn from because they are getting fed all this money that negates the whole purpose of learning from failure when their game doesn't succeed. That's one of the crippling flaws of 343i's management and leadership.
@@Godot25 That still doesn't make it right or an excuse for 343i to all the sudden put in MTX's into MCC and pretend everything is better now. The damage has already been done by Microsoft and 343i's previous management responsible for the numerous failures that kills the halo franchise's potential and the execution of it all. 343i never learned from any of their failures because they're fed money that easily undermines the value of learning a valuable lesson to not make the same mistake ever again. MTX to MCC to us fans just screams pure greed, nevermind the fact that all of us that played this game once it first came out in 2014 when it was totally broken and there was no apology for that disastrous mess which 343i's leadership/management ignored until they absolutely had to fix the last minute. So no, both 343i and Microsoft as a company (exluding the devs) doesn't deserve our hard earned money for the amount of crap and lies we as fans been through with 343i. They're clearly doing this deliberately on purpose to get away with bare minimum effort to making their profits. It's very sad to look at this franchise like a hollow shell of what halo was once was before 343i took over.
@@gran_turismo_fan Nobody put MTXs into Halo MCC. 343 just said "we need to find a revenue stream if you want future support." Players said no. 343 stopped support. And people are still bitching about 343 abandoning MCC. Why? Okay. They didn't want MTXs there. That's fine. But then don't bitch about lack of support. Because then we are approaching territory of insanity. Not to mention that only MTXs suggested to community was ability to buy Spartan Points with real money. Nothing more, nothing less. You are acting like 343 was trying to charge players for fixing MCC. Which is not true. They got collection into great shape and started adding new content. And they wanted MTXs for that new content.
Nope, not a chance. 343i knew that infinite was in trouble throughout this whole time including the development of the game when it was about to be shipped, the roadmap updates, all of that. That game is not what die hard halo fans asked for in the first place, and they knew it. Microsoft and the previous management at 343i responsible for infinite's messy development cycle, are the ones to blame for all of this inclusive modern gaming nonsense just to appeal to a broader audience just to make more money and further ruin the identity and legacy of this franchise.
No, the classic halo games never had any Micro-transactions, H3 and Reach made you earn cosmetics through challenges like it should be in MCC. We don't need this modern gaming nonsense in MCC. We've been through enough in MCC, we have been through so many buggy messes since MCC launched and waited this long for 343i to fix the bugs as well as the modded game browser for MCC that we still didn't get.
The reason I did a recap of MCCS development is to show things didn’t really take off until 2020 and deserves more content. I forgot to mention that 343 Industries explored making Spartan Points purchasable to create revenue for MCC but scrapped the idea because of backlash from Halo fan. Also, shoutout to my source for speaking with me! They told me they werent always informed of wider business plans for 343 and Microsoft since they were a contractor and not full time so there could be nuance that they’re missing. So keep that in mind.
Vote Martin O'Donnell for American Congress!
@@keilafleischbein59Cringe
The worst part is that MCC isn’t nearly complete. There’s still numerous bugs and promised features left on the table…not to mention the idea of mod support on Xbox or server rentals. Just because we shot down buying Spartan Points because Infinite’s store sucks doesn’t mean there aren’t other methods to fairly monetize MCC that enough people could get behind.
Like what?
Like in the comment server rentals....@@admiralmallard7500
@@admiralmallard7500paid for mods that reach a certain quality of mod and a support a creator feature etc. completely new multiplayer maps paid for with brand new content etc. some paid dlc they made entire games dlc whats the difference with that? Mmc can be monetized in other ways
You shot down buying Spartan Points which means, to MS, you shot down everything else.
@@admiralmallard7500 Server renting would be one way for sure. Doesn't guarantee a consistent revenue stream at the rate of small consumable transactions do, but that is something to consider.
If this report is true, then this further confirms that I have more beef with Microsoft than I do with 343 when it comes to how Halo is being handled, especially nowadays that 343 has new leadership.
343 is literally Microsoft.
Created by Microsoft.
Owned by Microsoft.
Led by Microsoft.
Controlled by Microsoft.
Stop pretending otherwise
After Pierre Hintze took Bonnie Ross’ position it really did seem like things were going to get better. Hell, it did for a bit. Feels like Microsoft is actively trying to kneecap its biggest gaming IP.
Microsoft was started by and is owned by Bill Gates
...i think that about says it all@@Freaky1347
Nah, 343 is just as much to blame as Microsoft. Microsoft can demand certain things be in a game, but 343 has the ability to implement those requirements how they want.
@@tech-bore8839 true
Most disappointing part is the revert back to zero transparency.
Ye
It genuinely is pissing me off ngl
They never had transparency, it was all a guise
@@ReachTea They definitely did, man. That's not even up for debate.
@deepism nope. They definitely did NOT!! It was all an illusion. I know from experience since 2014!!!
I’m pretty sure that Microsoft doesn’t care about halo at all, they sadly only care about call of duty, but I think that would change it halo was on all platforms…. It would finally have a chance
Seeing tha they rejected so many game pitches so yeah sounds about right
Imagine saying this after watching them support MCC for nearly 10 years lmao
@@tylerm5862 yeah they’ve really supported the halo franchise so much! Why would you stop the support of MCC, just makes no sense unless you don’t care about the IP or the long run of the franchise, also he said it became playable in 2018 lmao that’s not 10 years of support
@@Soulshock3 Actually it makes a lot of sense. Those games are already over 10 years old, some of them over 20. They are all fully available and more! Yet here we are complaining about them stopping support on games that have been over delivered to us? I mean..... I guess we just don't think about it like that.
@@tylerm5862 Overdelivered? What could you possibly mean? Every one of those games is unbelievably broken.
They only JUST made Halo 2's multiplayer even REMOTELY PLAYABLE as of the previous patch. It was unplayable. None of the Campaigns have cross-play support. There are still numerous visual bugs and glitches in the Campaigns, including entire parts of Halo 3's cutscenes that don't even exist. They only recently fixed Halo 4's lighting bug on Shutdown. I could go on and on.
There's also an ENORMOUS hacker problem that has DESTROYED the matchmaking multiplayer experience for ALL GAMES.
Overdelivered? No, absolutely not. Underdelivered, and still underbaked. Master Chief Collection is in an arguably WORSE state than LAUNCH.
Just admit you don't care about it instead of pretending you do.
Hopefully they do come back to it. Since development on Infinite is winding down, maybe some MCC updates could fill the gaps in the time before the next Halo release.
@D4RKASSASSING4MER201 No. Before the game EVER comes to PS. What MCC needs is Mod playlists to be released on Xbox!! PC has about 60% more content than Xbox players.. on a "Xbox exclusive" game.
they really should add content to halo 2. it got left out. thankful for the shot registration update though. But some weapon skins at least would be a nice addition. #halo2
The real halo 2 is almost back
Halo 2 Anniversary, maybe. The old games don't need any new content. They just need to be on par with their original games, which they aren't.
Honestly it wouldn't be the worst thing to add a paid option for the store if it means continued support. As long as it's non invasive.
Everybody kicked off about the option to purchase exchange points, I was so pissed when they cancelled it because I knew that was the beginning of the end of MCC content support
@@thunderslug1066Well, regardless. That doesn't excuse the fact that Microsoft was trying to add MTX's into MCC in attempt to cash cow the franchise even further in a disrespectful manner. Nevermind the amount of crap we been through in MCC, the messy bugs, broken multiplayer, and the list goes on and on. At the very least, they should've let us community manage MCC and add any MCC community made mods possible to play on the Xbox instead of that MTX's nonsense. No matter where you slice it, Microsoft is literally being anti-consumer to the true die hard halo fans that have been with franchise for as long as I can remember.
Yes. Yes it would be the worst thing. This is a full priced game they sold us a decade ago that still doesn't work. Fuck off. No Monetization system in MCC.
M$ needs to just open source the game and call it a day. The community can take the mantle of responsibility from here.
And what happens when they break the game?
@@admiralmallard7500 same thing that happens with any open source software, the community fixes it.
If they can fix it.
Either way, I don't think it will become open source until Microsoft abandons the xbox one games entirely. They could still release this game on other platforms. Wouldn't do that if it was open platform
@@admiralmallard7500 Agreed. It’s obviously more complicated than it sounds, but in the spirit of keeping the game and content alive I’d be all for it.
Unreal Tournament (1999) is a perfect example of a game long-since abandoned help up by a strong community that cares about the game. Very few players on it these days, but tons of tons of servers are still up, and the few who play are very active
It doesn't help that the state of MCC is not great, even after all the work that was put in by developer teams focusing on different aspects of the MCC.
Campaign co-op is still just as broken as it was when it released. It is plagued with connectivity issues, de-sync, input delay, a complete lack of PC to Console cross-play, and if that wasn't enough: flat out crashing some PCs that attempt to play it.
It was as suspected after all. Hopefully, people stop blaming the developers for all of the problems with Halo's development. Thanks as usual, Rebs! You are a shining star in our sea of pessimism.
Stop blaming the developers? The collection was UNPLAYABLE for nearly FIVE YEARS. It is absolutely the developers fault for the state the entire franchise is in. 343 easily ranks in the bottom of all game current game developers.
@@Kandranos And those people are all gone. None of them are left. Who are you blaming?
Somebody ruins a house, you blame the tenants who move in afterwards and start fixing it?
Wow thanks for the huge compliment! I really appreciate it
Microsoft couldn't care less about Halo.
They milked the franchise for as long as they could until it simply dried up like a raisin. Microsoft never liked Bungie because they couldn't control the free spirit and creativity of Bungie (a company who loved human connection and imagination).
When Bungie couldnt take anymore of their shit in 2010 and decided to leave, Microsoft created 343 to be their little compliant worker bee, their tool to continue to Milk the franchise with. 343 became their Egor to Dracula.
If we want to resurrect Halo we need Microsoft to give up the rights to Halo all together and start from the ground up again with small scale teams that are passionate about and understand the original Bungie games.
Hailey Eira said this in July.
Old news.
Also some of this info is incorrect.
Video starts at 3:35
I would still love too see a Custom gamed browser for mods on Pc at somepoint there are loads of amazing multiplayer mods out there thag people of pored so much passion and effort into but will never have the same exposure thag single player mods have because you can't use the customs browser woth anti cheat off so the only way you can play multiplayer modded content is if you go out of your way too find and organise game nights which can be a massive struggle, doesn't seem like it would be a massive undertaking to simply have a separate customs browser you can access with anti chest turned off......
They’ve basically abandoned Gears of War as well.
Gears 6 bro it's coming
It will be interesting to see when they abandon Infinite as well
tfw they refused to fix online coop
Halo 5 has microtransactions? Where's the updates? Thinking microtransactions guarantee new content is something that Fortnite zoomers believe lmao
Without fixing Halo 3's hit detection...STILL! Fuck 343i.
I got this when on sale i thought ita just a compilation of 6 halo games. They were actively developing it? What does that mean? They should have added in subtitles for the earlier halo games.
If Microsoft wants MCC to generate revenue in order to continue development for it then I think that releasing it on PlayStation 5 and the next gen Switch is a good way for that to happen.
Also I do wonder how long until we get the next main Halo game, I’m personally thinking the end of 2027, and if it’s going to be a while, MCC getting the spotlight again alongside Infinite’s ongoing sustainment would be a good way to pass the time.
That's what a lot of people are speculating as to why the last few updates for Infinite have been real lack luster and why shop prices are so high.
(There's also the fact that they're probably still understaffed. By the fact they're still hiring for an "Audio Director" and "Lead Game Designer".)
They're getting ready to move on to the next Halo game.
And too be fair, it is about time.
The Halo game has an average life span of about 3 years and then next one releases.
It'll be 3 years of Infinite by November of this year. We are due for the next Halo game.
I'm honestly sad MCC ended just when it reached a new height.
343 should implore MS that MCC should continue to receive development. When 343 asked us (the community) about Spartan Points costing money no context was given that if not, then MCC would shut down. Furthermore, when 343 asked the community the timing was really BAD. Halo Infinite was going through its terrible phase with monetization so of course the community thought when 343 said 'money' with MCC they meant a similar bad experience.
I really doubt anyone is against some form of MCC monetization AS LONG AS non of the original content is paywalled. 343 stopped work on MCC for a few years and then came back to really make it better ... they can comeback to MCC and continue the fun one day again I hope ... but not getting my hopes up for it more than wishful thinking.
Microsoft is one of the world's 3 biggest companies - raking in TRILLIONS in profit year over year
Ur saying that they can't cut out 100 milly to keep Halo alive? For f@#! Sake! 5:18
I knew that this had to be a Microsoft decision throughout this entire time of them trying so hard to forcing 343i to implementing Micro-transactions into MCC which thankfully didn't happen, we've been through so many buggy messes since launch. It's very disrespectful that Microsoft still continues to diminishing the legacy, and the identity of the halo franchise for the sake of forcefully appealing to a broader audience that has never played a single halo title and also them having unrealistic expectations of a halo game to make their revenue off those people. It's the management and the consumers who buy into their garbage that's killing this franchise as a whole even further. The same can be said for many other games in the modern gaming era we're dealing with right now.
Microsoft can still maintain this franchise without having micro-transactions at all, but, they simply chose not to because they are greedy and they're after the people who will buy their garbage. It's very sad that many IP's are going through almost the same thing that the halo franchise is going through right now. I really don't like seeing the current state of the halo franchise, and I want this franchise to thrive, not to decline downwards.
Nunca creí sentirme tan aliviado de que pararan el desarrollo de un Halo, pero si esto significa que no salga de Xbox y siga siendo exclusivo pues bueno.
This isn't really news here. It's pretty clear when 343 asked if users would ok with them adding micro transactions and the community said no so we don't get any additional updates. They can't spend money where they won't make money
Очень жаль, если они не продолжат заниматься разработкой игр чем halo. Жду с нетерпением
I don’t care, I got my moneys worth. i was able to reply all the Halo campaigns and beat them on legendary in the mcc. Campaigns pretty much feel 1 to 1 as I remember it from back to the CE days. idc about multiplayer, I didnt buy it for that, and im sure others agree they mostly bought it for the campaigns too.
Once they shifted to only releasing assets for mods it seemed like the project was dead. This did nothing for console or even really GamePass.
We need to rise up as a community and hate on Microsoft I feel so bad for 343 they got all this hate but it's all Microsofts fault 343 can't do what we want them to do. 😅
None of that will matter because you regards are still going to give them money regardless of what they do. Plus, I highly doubt Microsoft execs even care what a bunch of random people they’ll never interact with in real life think.
So you're saying it's the fans are partially to blame as well. Because I remember they wanted to implement a system where you buy spartan points, but everyone including myself was against that. Honestly, it would've been dumb to do because it's so easy getting spartan points from challenges and ranking up.
Microsoft clearly forgot the primary reason we all brought Xboxes in the first place, for their Flagship game series, Halo. Now they want to stain their own legacy with mud and kick all five (plus Halo 4) to the curb. If Microsoft want a game that can compete with the viral hype Helldivers is bringing Sony, this ain't the way to do it.
Xbox and Microsoft should update Halo MCC forever fr.
I wish they would remove an invisibility boundary and remove death barrier outside of forge world because I saw outside land is huge massive land. We should be able to building. Also halo 3 forge need to adding more objection item like sand trap, lockdown should use a lot of block and remove death barrier too.
I'm wondering if there will be halo 3 anniversary running on the slipspace engine
The fight is far from finished.
lol you sad ****
have they fixed the laggy series x halo 2 anniversary ??? bad frames.
Yeah well rates are coming down for not sure how in the F Microsoft thinks a few updates will kill tye company. Cmon at least infinite the same way
How can it end with no Halo 2 classic ranked playlist?
Tbf theres not enough people for ranked anymore
Thanks for the info!
MCC ended in a great spot, but damn one or two big updates to add further crossplay, 4 player co-op to CE and 2, convenient mod support for custom games, and an increase to player count would've made it eternal and self-sustaining.
Oh boy!
want this a while ago
other than ps5 port.
Spartan points should have been monetized. None of the new customization holds any weight anyway besides game time. Maybe they'll reconsider down the road. Server renting could be another potential stream that'd just be positive overall.
For everyone complaining about existing issues, I say welcome to the Halo Wars 2 club!
Yupp all bc halo infinite is so dead. So bc MCC team saved MCC they must be able to save infinite too right lol no jokes on us they are continuing with micro transactions. We need more guns, vehicles, btb and squad battle maps. Maybe even bigger lobbies than 24 players
the fans killed Halo by refusing MTX LOL
A HALO TRILOGY REMASTER IS NEXT IN UE5! Screenshot this. I was an Infinite internal beta leaker.
343: We are considering adding optional way to earn in-game cosmetics by paying for them to fund future support of MCC
Players: Absolutely no
343: We are ending Halo MCC support
Players: *shocked Pikachu face*
Honestly, it was obvious that future support would end moment that community decided against microtransactions.
Yeah rightfully so, I don't blame the halo community being against MTX's. MCC for years was plagued full of issues including the multiplayer at launch which didn't work at all and it would take upwards of 40 minutes to find a match regardless of time you were playing the game. In 2015/16 The game literally sat dormant for a few years with hardly any bug fixing updates during that time, then the PC port got announced in 2019 then got released which only had reach in the collection on MCC, but to my disappointment I then learned that all of the other halo games weren't playable yet on the PC port of MCC which took 343i another full year to port all of the other halo games in the collection to PC which presented a considerable amount of bugs. The list goes on and on, and you saying among the lines of we should deal with MTX's no matter what kind of dismissiveness over a game that was neglected for the past decade, just adds insult to injury.
The original halo games deserve better than this. We need to implement modding support for Xbox and 343i needs to let us community manage MCC if 343i aren't able to officially support it anymore. What's the point of letting these games rot? Makes no sense to me.
@@gran_turismo_fan Lol. But 343 didn't want to introduce MTXs when MCC was broken. The wanted to introduce them in 2022 (if I remember correctly), when all games were perfectly playable (outside of framerate issues in H2A campaign on Series X/S) and they also brought additional content and features. So you whole schtik is literally pointless.
343 was pretty clear - they need source of revenue if playerbase wanted new content and features. Playerbase rejected it. So at least don't act surprised when 343 pulled the plug. There is nothing wrong with playerbase rejecting MTXs in game. But they knew consequences. Or they really thought that 343 will continue to put resources into that collection without any ROI?
@@Godot25Well regardless, they didn't need to monetize MCC anyway. These games were never centered around MTX's anyway nor should it be encouraged or be brought into MCC. That's why the halo community is against MTX's in the first place.
A lot of what I said about MCC's buggy messes was true back when MCC came out in 2014 on the Xbox one and even then, there were also some buggy messes too when they were porting the halo games into the PC port of MCC, that's an irrefutable fact that you cannot deny nor is it false. If you don't believe me, do your research online and you tell me on how really broken it was back then. It seems to me you never played halo MCC from the very start when there were a lot of issues that took 343i years to fix.
So no, 343i or Microsoft as a company doesn't deserve our hard earned cash for making continuous failures that they never learn from because they are getting fed all this money that negates the whole purpose of learning from failure when their game doesn't succeed. That's one of the crippling flaws of 343i's management and leadership.
@@Godot25 That still doesn't make it right or an excuse for 343i to all the sudden put in MTX's into MCC and pretend everything is better now. The damage has already been done by Microsoft and 343i's previous management responsible for the numerous failures that kills the halo franchise's potential and the execution of it all. 343i never learned from any of their failures because they're fed money that easily undermines the value of learning a valuable lesson to not make the same mistake ever again.
MTX to MCC to us fans just screams pure greed, nevermind the fact that all of us that played this game once it first came out in 2014 when it was totally broken and there was no apology for that disastrous mess which 343i's leadership/management ignored until they absolutely had to fix the last minute. So no, both 343i and Microsoft as a company (exluding the devs) doesn't deserve our hard earned money for the amount of crap and lies we as fans been through with 343i. They're clearly doing this deliberately on purpose to get away with bare minimum effort to making their profits. It's very sad to look at this franchise like a hollow shell of what halo was once was before 343i took over.
@@gran_turismo_fan Nobody put MTXs into Halo MCC. 343 just said "we need to find a revenue stream if you want future support." Players said no. 343 stopped support. And people are still bitching about 343 abandoning MCC.
Why? Okay. They didn't want MTXs there. That's fine. But then don't bitch about lack of support. Because then we are approaching territory of insanity.
Not to mention that only MTXs suggested to community was ability to buy Spartan Points with real money. Nothing more, nothing less.
You are acting like 343 was trying to charge players for fixing MCC. Which is not true. They got collection into great shape and started adding new content. And they wanted MTXs for that new content.
PS5 W / XBOX L
MCC been dead for a while now
Maybe Infinite will Start to get better... ☠️😔
Nope, not a chance. 343i knew that infinite was in trouble throughout this whole time including the development of the game when it was about to be shipped, the roadmap updates, all of that. That game is not what die hard halo fans asked for in the first place, and they knew it. Microsoft and the previous management at 343i responsible for infinite's messy development cycle, are the ones to blame for all of this inclusive modern gaming nonsense just to appeal to a broader audience just to make more money and further ruin the identity and legacy of this franchise.
JUST ADD MICROTRANSACTIONS.
No, the classic halo games never had any Micro-transactions, H3 and Reach made you earn cosmetics through challenges like it should be in MCC.
We don't need this modern gaming nonsense in MCC. We've been through enough in MCC, we have been through so many buggy messes since MCC launched and waited this long for 343i to fix the bugs as well as the modded game browser for MCC that we still didn't get.