Just checking back in to update my previous comment. I rode the entire GAP/C&O trail from Pittsburgh to DC in October. I did the whole thing on my hardtail MTB and was pretty happy to have it. For one thing, the Pawpaw tunnel was closed for repairs so I had to detour over the mountain. It wasn't pleasant pushing the bike up the mountain but the ride down was so much better thanks to suspension and bigger tires. I also saw a ton of people riding the trails on a lot of different bikes. Some mountain, some road, some grave, and some hybrid. What I found was that the best bike for the trail is more than likely a gravel bike or hardtail mountain bike. The big key is the tires. I saw so many people on road bikes with skinny 25C or 30C tires that had flats or trouble with the muddy sections. If anyone is looking to ride either or both of these trails I would suggest wider, fast-rolling tires. My next trip will be the Erie Canal trail, which has similar trail surfaces to the GAP/C&O and I will be taking my gravel bike with 700x40C tires. Cheers and thanks again for sharing your adventure. I hope that you find the time to ride more and for goodness sake, cut your mileage a bit. 60-mile days are crazy for a new rider! 🙂
As a former mountain bike racer and mechanic with 30 years wrenching in all sorts of shops and moonlighting in a shop in Ohiopyle on weekends for 15 seasons, sometimes I’ve seen padded shorts along with padded seats cause more discomfort than using a chamois short with a regular seat or padded seat with no chamois. In a nutshell, you should be fine with one or the other. I also guided trips from Pittsburgh to DC with guests who used both padded shorts and padded seats. Doing the whole 350 miles plus or minus a few if they chose to ride in the van, everyone of these guests had major chaffing going on. Many people don’t have proper saddle height, which can be a source of extreme discomfort and immediately blame the seat. When you’re not accustomed to riding these 100 plus mile days, an improperly fitted bike will destroy your good time. It always amazes me how many guests would drop 2k on a trip, eat expensive meals every night, yet would skimp on a proper bike fitting??? Anyways, one needs to find out what works best for them and my suggestions are merely that, just suggestions and what I’ve noticed working in the industry. Good luck to all who embark on this journey. God bless.
Regarding the wet and cold, I wear wool clothing because it will keep you warm even when wet and it doesn’t smell bad like synthetic clothing does when it gets wet or sweaty. I have a (merino, smart-wool) light weight t-shirt, a light weight long sleeved shirt, and for cold weather riding (eg. In the 50’s or 40’s) a mid-weight long sleeved pull over. I generally avoid riding in the rain but when it does rain I have a nylon rain jacket I throw over the wool clothing. Works great for me. Hope that helps. Thanks for this vid
I think you meant to say, “Don’t ride this trail on the kind of tires that came with my rented mountain bike.” I rode the conjoined GAP and C&O Canal trails from Pittsburgh to DC on a mountain bike with 2” x 26” Schwalbe Mondial touring tires at 60 psi and under. My companion rode 700c touring tires on a hybrid bike. Both bikes did well. Readers, please note that the C&O Canal is infamous for being unpleasant or impossible when the mud gets deep. Some muddy patches can take days to dry out.
Yes sir! We did Georgetown (Washington) to Harper's Ferry, WV on road bikes with 700c tires...when the weather was good and the surface was dry just about all the way.
The best quote here: “Right now, we’re really excited…but like any adventure, we’re super excited at the beginning, . And then, once you get into it….uh…uh, this is the thing”. EXACTLY the way I felt two weeks into the Appalachian Trail….where I transformed from a “thru hiker” into a dedicated Section Hiker! This was a great “real life, the way it was not the way we all want it to be” video! You guys made me laugh more than once through “this ride”…thank you!
@@toejamr1 I congratulate you…truly, I do. I’m a male, mid-60s, retired Navy Officer and a retired federal wildlife officer. Two great careers, where my success depended upon living and working in challenging conditions--usually outdoors! And I have some great stories to tell, and adventures that I am personally proud of. But, I found the AT--at least during the peak months--to be a 2200 mile long human bacteria-filled Petri dish-Frat party. I get it, I really do, as I was young once….and had more than my fair share of fun. But after a day of backpacking, all that I wanted to do was quickly set up camp, clean up a little, eat, floss, brush my teeth and SACK OUT. I have no shame in having converted to a Section Hiker….and that, during the “shoulder seasons” only. Again, amigo, Bravo-Zulu, we’ll done and congratulations to you and your comrades, on a successful Thru hike!
Just did the whole C&O on a Trek Marlin 7, in very good time (day 1 55 miles, day 2 65 miles, remaining mails on day 3). I'm incredibly comfortable with my mtb. This, as many others have pointed out, is more like A) doing such a long trip on a rental, and B) the rider is likely not used to general geometry on mtbs (which goes back to A)
First of all I did enjoy your video and it will be helpful to people looking for advice on what not to do. I think your first mistake was lack of proper planning. The C/O is beautiful but demanding ride at times. I would not recommend a rented bike unless I was very familiar with the bike I was renting. Tire size and fork clearance are two things to consider, there will be mud. Time of year when riding makes a big difference, we choose August. People will say it's too hot in August but for the most part you are riding in a tree canopy that keeps the sun at bay and if you do get caught in the rain it can actually be refreshing. Shorter mileage days! Lots to see and enjoy. Research the history of the canal, if your just pounding out miles then your going to miss a big part of what makes this a great ride. One last thing, ditch the big padded saddle, they will hurt you in places you don't want to be hurting. Thanks for your vid.
I ride 30 miles on the Ohio Erie Canal towpath trail every Sunday morning with my dad. We eat at ernies after. We are working our way towards the whole thing down in a day. (About 100 miles) starting in Cleveland, not sure exactly where the end is.
I really enjoyed this video ! I recently picked up a Hybrid . I haven't t owned a bike in over 15 years . Thank you for sharing the good , the bad ,and ugly of this trip . It was amazing !😀
Here is a suggestion I call the great equalizer. I am faster than my wife, so I bought her an eBike (with a 50mile range in pedal assist) and I use my regular MTB. That has allowed us to ride together and still get a workout. If you have an MTB, you can inflate the tires to the max, or replace the tires with less aggressive tires and it won't be much different than riding a hybrid (unless you are running very small chainrings which will limit your top speeds).
I am planning on a similar ride along the C&O canal next month from DC to Harpers Ferry. It looks like it is going to be a nice ride. Thanks for sharing. Your ride looked awesome!
The water pumps are about 10 miles apart. Not all of them work, but most do. The towns are 19c, not colonial although there are some 18c houses here and there. The whole trail is in Maryland--it never crosses into West Va.
I did the whole thing on a Specialized Roll bike. No suspension. My tires are a bit fat , they are 650B×2.3 (27.5") I didn't have any rain and not too much mud. I dis put fenders on just in case. There were several people that said they liked my setup though. I saw all types. Any bike will work for this trip.
Thank you for an honest assessment of your ride of this trail and not sugar-coating it. I like the fact you guys like beer, I am just a little jealous that you stay so thin drinking beer, I wish I could. Salute!
Thank you for sharing the trip. I, too, have found the Dollar General useful when traveling in rural area. Outstanding, that you included the shots of the Key Bridge and the Whitehurst Freeway off-ramp. Kudos to you for the good editing!
We did Georgetown to Harpers Ferry and back in one day on road bikes....no problem. The weather was great and everything packed down so the road bikes did fine. Great ride. Fun video. Thanks for posting.
@@elmiguel6725 As I recall, it was right at 100 miles. If you ride a lot, and have bike that's in good condition, it's not hard to build up to a 100 mile ride.
I’m assuming that your fasteners holding the rack together came loose. When I did it I checked all the bolts a couple of times. Also I cleaned and lubed chain about 3 times daily.
It's not the bike. If you have a hardtail with a wide enough range in the gears it is the tires. Just put the right tires on that Mt Bike and you will roll fine. A full suspension would be kind of heavy also. If you ride a bike often enough the thinner saddles are better. Your butt muscles like all your other muscles need to be in shape for the task. The big gel saddle will get in the way.
A decent HT weighs about 30 lbs vs a 'hybrid' at an average of 25 to 30 lbs. (based on FX 3 to Verve 2) Hybrid is a term applied to variety of bikes. A hybrid could be a heavy cruiser type bike or almost a flat bar type road-gravel bike. You want at least a 32mm wide tire for multi-day ride, preferably a 40 to 45mm tire. You have to make clear what you mean. But a 2" wide tire XC mtb would be FINE. 30 lbs with probably a 100mm or 120 mm fork. Was this your fist foray of multi-day riding? 😂
Good film guys. And good call with the gel saddles, iv'e been telling anyone who will listen that for years. Standard bike saddles are a pain in the ass, literally. The C&O/Gap trails are on my bucket list for sure, but as i live in England its kinda tricky to plan right now with the Covid situation. So i'm making do the the canal network here in the U.K
Hi, I am having trouble understanding why the bike was the issue. What is wrong with riding mountain bike? I’m not trying to be problematic. I’ve been watching lots of videos and would love to do this ride. I have a Cannondale mountain bike. Why wouldn’t I ride that on the trail? What is it? I’m not understanding? Thanks for your help.
Glad you guys had fun, I'm leaving on the 5th of September to ride from Pittsburgh to DC and back on the GAP and C&O. Weather permitting, I have a feeling with all this rain parts of the C&O could be flooded, especially the section along the river.
I just finished weekend warrior completing the C&O on my mountain bike doing out and back day trips and I was thankful to have it instead of my hybrid bike. There are a lot of roots and rocks on the trail. I saw a lot of hybrid riders changing flats but no mountain bikers changing flats. I think it’s all up to personal preference. Also, not sure where you rode on a paved trail on the C&O but it’s all dirt or cinder track. Ride your ride, everyone is different.
something I have been contemplating on since last summer. I didn't know air b&b was an option other than at the starting point at Cumberland. I have done small chunks on multiple trips using both touring [hybrid on 44c] and MTB. both will work considering northern part of the trail can get very muddy in many sections after a rain. but definitely bike fender will be helpful to keep things cleaner.
Thank you you guys are great!!!! I am going oct 9 from Cumberland - then train to Pittsburgh to ride back to cumberland what year and month was this? I have a hybrid trek and put 33 tires on at recommendation of trip leader
So here is my funny C&O Canal story. Walking my old Black Labrador (Molly - as in my avatar) near the Clara Barton section, she was off in front sniffing around like always. When from around a bend ahead I heard a huge commotion. Next thing I know Molly comes flying past with something in her mouth followed by one angry fisherman. The little sod had snatched a decent sized fish right off the blokes line as he was reeling it in. The fisherman got so flustered he ended up falling in the canal, and lost his shoes in the subsequent chase for his catch. I think that episode cost me $50 and a very big sorry.
The C&O canal never enters West Virginia. We've camped at serval of campground along the trail. It's nice to our taxes dollars going to something for people to get out and enjoy.
Love this video! Great adventurous spirit and good information, but mostly it's refreshing to get a cycle tour report from people who aren't grizzled globe trotting veterans. A group of us is riding C&O/GAP later this year. This video will help us be prepared, and we're looking forward to the trip even more because we're year 'round all weather distance cyclists so we can now comfortably focus on other aspects of the tour. Like getting good B&Bs and planning side trips like to Falling Water. Will bring our gravel bikes, which are the modern equivalent of hybrids. Many thanks!
SOMETHING I WOULD LOVE TO DO IN DEATH VALLEY IS GO ON ONE OF THE WINDING-ROUGH ROADS THAT GET 4WD ATTENTION AND DIG I NICE 2.5 WIDE BY 8 INCHES DEEP HOLE RIGHT OFF THE ROAD SOMEWHERE AND PLANT I FIRE HYDRANT IN THE MIDDLE SO THAT IT LOOKS TO BE PLACED WITH INTENT. MY WIFE IS SOUTH AFRICAN BRITISH SO IT'S DOUBTFUL SHE WOULD LIKE ANYTHING THERE OTHER THAN TEA KETTLE JUNCTION.
Great video. But I tend to stick with the mountain bike for the effort. If I am not beat at the end of the day I feel as though I have cheated myself. But I can see why many people would prefer a hybrid.
Hate to say it but you just seemed pretty miserable for the entire trip. Perhaps because you don't ride bikes often enough that you are used to the miles. I will be doing the GAP and C&O Canal trip (Pittsburg to DC) later this year. I am a bit confused by the main point of your video, which was don't use a mountain bike. You didn't really say what the benefit of a hybrid was over the MTB. If it is just the tires then that is easily remedied as you can get fast-rolling tires for a mountain bike. I have them on my hardtail as I ride a lot of mixed surfaces. I guess if you are renting bikes then you might opt for a gravel/hybrid bike. So was it just the heavy lugs of the MTB that you felt were the issue? Thanks for the video.
Exactly - the efficiency was terrible. We were the only MTBs that we saw of hundreds of riders, and it was obvious why. We are fit people, and we’ve done half ironman races, so are quite experienced at biking.
@@BottomLineUpFront thanks. I will be using my hardtail but as I said, it has been outfitted with faster rolling tires so it should serve me well on those smooth segments. Cheers
LOL - agree. Light planning and light training will not deliver a good experience and gel seats won't solve much. Gravel Bike, train and plan and the GAP/C&O is an excellent adventure. 4th run for me an a crew this year (2 C&O and 2nd GAP/C&O) and mix up Camping stops, Lockhouse rentals, etc. and most importantly learned and improved each trek. Old Viking sayin - There's No Bad Weather, Only Bad Clothing.
Great video! I live in Cumberland and prefer riding my mountain bike over my hybrid when riding the C&0. When the trail gets very muddy the slicker tires of a hybrid can lose their grip on the shoulders of the water-filled mudholes and cause a wreck. If you can time your ride during the dry season then I can see why you would recommend hybrid tires. In my experience if you only have a mountain bike then fill your tires to the max air pressure and they will roll smoother and faster on the dry, packed trail while still giving you grip during unexpected muddy conditions..
Do NOT use the water from the pumps on the way--even back when this video was posted, the water was heavily treated with iodine, now they don't even do that. If you do, please use a water filter. Also, the C&O Tow Path NEVER crosses over to West Virginia (or any other state)--the entirety of it is in Maryland.
Yes, I will disagree about the tires. I rode over 70 miles on the C&O, on Silk sew up tubular tires, 1994. No flats heeheeeeee. I've ridden some sections since, but that's my claim to fame. It's not the tires it's the rider, ride what you ride.
That’s 11:37 of my life I’ll never get back. You obviously went into this with your eyes closed and have blamed everything other than yourselves for the poor experience. BTW, your “biking experience” with half Ironman competitions is virtually un transferable to real cycling applications. I await your smug response anxiously.
I feel like they were very inspiring . I appreciate that they were very beginner friendly. It made me realize I don’t have to be a super professional in order to atttempt
Just checking back in to update my previous comment. I rode the entire GAP/C&O trail from Pittsburgh to DC in October. I did the whole thing on my hardtail MTB and was pretty happy to have it. For one thing, the Pawpaw tunnel was closed for repairs so I had to detour over the mountain. It wasn't pleasant pushing the bike up the mountain but the ride down was so much better thanks to suspension and bigger tires. I also saw a ton of people riding the trails on a lot of different bikes. Some mountain, some road, some grave, and some hybrid. What I found was that the best bike for the trail is more than likely a gravel bike or hardtail mountain bike. The big key is the tires. I saw so many people on road bikes with skinny 25C or 30C tires that had flats or trouble with the muddy sections. If anyone is looking to ride either or both of these trails I would suggest wider, fast-rolling tires. My next trip will be the Erie Canal trail, which has similar trail surfaces to the GAP/C&O and I will be taking my gravel bike with 700x40C tires. Cheers and thanks again for sharing your adventure. I hope that you find the time to ride more and for goodness sake, cut your mileage a bit. 60-mile days are crazy for a new rider! 🙂
I agree with your comments.
As a former mountain bike racer and mechanic with 30 years wrenching in all sorts of shops and moonlighting in a shop in Ohiopyle on weekends for 15 seasons, sometimes I’ve seen padded shorts along with padded seats cause more discomfort than using a chamois short with a regular seat or padded seat with no chamois. In a nutshell, you should be fine with one or the other. I also guided trips from Pittsburgh to DC with guests who used both padded shorts and padded seats. Doing the whole 350 miles plus or minus a few if they chose to ride in the van, everyone of these guests had major chaffing going on. Many people don’t have proper saddle height, which can be a source of extreme discomfort and immediately blame the seat. When you’re not accustomed to riding these 100 plus mile days, an improperly fitted bike will destroy your good time. It always amazes me how many guests would drop 2k on a trip, eat expensive meals every night, yet would skimp on a proper bike fitting??? Anyways, one needs to find out what works best for them and my suggestions are merely that, just suggestions and what I’ve noticed working in the industry. Good luck to all who embark on this journey. God bless.
Regarding the wet and cold, I wear wool clothing because it will keep you warm even when wet and it doesn’t smell bad like synthetic clothing does when it gets wet or sweaty. I have a (merino, smart-wool) light weight t-shirt, a light weight long sleeved shirt, and for cold weather riding (eg. In the 50’s or 40’s) a mid-weight long sleeved pull over. I generally avoid riding in the rain but when it does rain I have a nylon rain jacket I throw over the wool clothing. Works great for me. Hope that helps. Thanks for this vid
Why not a gravel bike
I think you meant to say, “Don’t ride this trail on the kind of tires that came with my rented mountain bike.” I rode the conjoined GAP and C&O Canal trails from Pittsburgh to DC on a mountain bike with 2” x 26” Schwalbe Mondial touring tires at 60 psi and under. My companion rode 700c touring tires on a hybrid bike. Both bikes did well. Readers, please note that the C&O Canal is infamous for being unpleasant or impossible when the mud gets deep. Some muddy patches can take days to dry out.
Yes sir! We did Georgetown (Washington) to Harper's Ferry, WV on road bikes with 700c tires...when the weather was good and the surface was dry just about all the way.
That looks like an awesome trip, even with the rain, mud, cold and broken luggage rack. Thanks for sharing.
The best quote here: “Right now, we’re really excited…but like any adventure, we’re super excited at the beginning, . And then, once you get into it….uh…uh, this is the thing”. EXACTLY the way I felt two weeks into the Appalachian Trail….where I transformed from a “thru hiker” into a dedicated Section Hiker! This was a great “real life, the way it was not the way we all want it to be” video! You guys made me laugh more than once through “this ride”…thank you!
I watched this happen to 75% of people I started the AT with. Luckily, I had a group that clung together and it dragged us the whole way.
@@toejamr1 I congratulate you…truly, I do. I’m a male, mid-60s, retired Navy Officer and a retired federal wildlife officer. Two great careers, where my success depended upon living and working in challenging conditions--usually outdoors! And I have some great stories to tell, and adventures that I am personally proud of. But, I found the AT--at least during the peak months--to be a 2200 mile long human bacteria-filled Petri dish-Frat party. I get it, I really do, as I was young once….and had more than my fair share of fun. But after a day of backpacking, all that I wanted to do was quickly set up camp, clean up a little, eat, floss, brush my teeth and SACK OUT. I have no shame in having converted to a Section Hiker….and that, during the “shoulder seasons” only. Again, amigo, Bravo-Zulu, we’ll done and congratulations to you and your comrades, on a successful Thru hike!
Did Washigton to Pittsburg couple years back. Loved the rocks around DC, All the little tow houses.
Just did the whole C&O on a Trek Marlin 7, in very good time (day 1 55 miles, day 2 65 miles, remaining mails on day 3). I'm incredibly comfortable with my mtb. This, as many others have pointed out, is more like A) doing such a long trip on a rental, and B) the rider is likely not used to general geometry on mtbs (which goes back to A)
First of all I did enjoy your video and it will be helpful to people looking for advice on what not to do. I think your first mistake was lack of proper planning. The C/O is beautiful but demanding ride at times. I would not recommend a rented bike unless I was very familiar with the bike I was renting. Tire size and fork clearance are two things to consider, there will be mud. Time of year when riding makes a big difference, we choose August. People will say it's too hot in August but for the most part you are riding in a tree canopy that keeps the sun at bay and if you do get caught in the rain it can actually be refreshing. Shorter mileage days! Lots to see and enjoy. Research the history of the canal, if your just pounding out miles then your going to miss a big part of what makes this a great ride. One last thing, ditch the big padded saddle, they will hurt you in places you don't want to be hurting. Thanks for your vid.
I ride 30 miles on the Ohio Erie Canal towpath trail every Sunday morning with my dad. We eat at ernies after. We are working our way towards the whole thing down in a day. (About 100 miles) starting in Cleveland, not sure exactly where the end is.
I really enjoyed this video ! I recently picked up a Hybrid . I haven't t owned a bike in over 15 years . Thank you for sharing the good , the bad ,and ugly of this trip . It was amazing !😀
I recently moved to Georgetown and you two inspired me to do this exact trip at the end of this month. I’m so excited!
You are going to crush it!! 💪
Guys the whole C&O canal is in Maryland. The canal itself is not West Virginia. Sorry the weather was wet. Glad you have a good time.
Yep, we were confused by a sign that said “welcome to West Virginia” - not sure why it was there??
Hey guys, my kids and I are watching your work tonight. Love it! Thanks.
What's your opinion of that adventure today 2024
Are you guys still using the Panasonic S1H
Here is a suggestion I call the great equalizer. I am faster than my wife, so I bought her an eBike (with a 50mile range in pedal assist) and I use my regular MTB. That has allowed us to ride together and still get a workout. If you have an MTB, you can inflate the tires to the max, or replace the tires with less aggressive tires and it won't be much different than riding a hybrid (unless you are running very small chainrings which will limit your top speeds).
What camera gear do you take with you?
I am planning on a similar ride along the C&O canal next month from DC to Harpers Ferry. It looks like it is going to be a nice ride. Thanks for sharing. Your ride looked awesome!
Did you go mid Cicada invasion? I can hear them in the background. I couldn't imagine doing that and getting hit by a cicada every 2 seconds.
Can you tell me what padded seat you purchased. Either a link or brand, Thanks.
What an awesome trip! Those Airbnb looked adorable! Thanks for all these helpful tips Maggie & Jimmy!!
The water pumps are about 10 miles apart. Not all of them work, but most do. The towns are 19c, not colonial although there are some 18c houses here and there. The whole trail is in Maryland--it never crosses into West Va.
Shepherdstown, Harpers ferry are in WV
I did the whole thing on a Specialized Roll bike. No suspension. My tires are a bit fat , they are 650B×2.3 (27.5") I didn't have any rain and not too much mud. I dis put fenders on just in case. There were several people that said they liked my setup though. I saw all types. Any bike will work for this trip.
Thank you for an honest assessment of your ride of this trail and not sugar-coating it. I like the fact you guys like beer, I am just a little jealous that you stay so thin drinking beer, I wish I could. Salute!
Thank you for sharing the trip. I, too, have found the Dollar General useful when traveling in rural area. Outstanding, that you included the shots of the Key Bridge and the Whitehurst Freeway off-ramp. Kudos to you for the good editing!
We did Georgetown to Harpers Ferry and back in one day on road bikes....no problem. The weather was
great and everything packed down so the road bikes did fine. Great ride. Fun video. Thanks for posting.
WOW ! How many miles was that??? Sounds like a lot for one day, I guess you're very experienced. Nice job.
@@elmiguel6725 As I recall, it was right at 100 miles. If you ride a lot, and have bike that's in good condition, it's not hard to build up to a 100 mile ride.
@@USNAVDC thank you.
@@elmiguel6725 El Miguiel...just wondering what part of the world your from?
@@USNAVDC New Jersey, born and raised in Jersey City, now Northern NJ, near Ramapo College.
I’m assuming that your fasteners holding the rack together came loose. When I did it I checked all the bolts a couple of times. Also I cleaned and lubed chain about 3 times daily.
It's not the bike. If you have a hardtail with a wide enough range in the gears it is the tires. Just put the right tires on that Mt Bike and you will roll fine. A full suspension would be kind of heavy also. If you ride a bike often enough the thinner saddles are better. Your butt muscles like all your other muscles need to be in shape for the task. The big gel saddle will get in the way.
In my book it's always good when the field repair (on the rack) gets you to the destination.
Why Hybrid? Gravel or Cycle Cross surely?
A decent HT weighs about 30 lbs vs a 'hybrid' at an average of 25 to 30 lbs. (based on FX 3 to Verve 2) Hybrid is a term applied to variety of bikes. A hybrid could be a heavy cruiser type bike or almost a flat bar type road-gravel bike. You want at least a 32mm wide tire for multi-day ride, preferably a 40 to 45mm tire. You have to make clear what you mean. But a 2" wide tire XC mtb would be FINE. 30 lbs with probably a 100mm or 120 mm fork. Was this your fist foray of multi-day riding? 😂
Awesome video and tips. Thanks for sharing!
What car rental company did you use?
Some of the camp sites at the campgrounds turn off the pumps during fall/winter.
Thanks for the video - we're headed out in the opposite direction over the holiday weekend....expecting some rains...but we have hybrid bikes!
what kind of car did you rent for the one way trip to cumberland? was it a uhaul style van, or can you get a rental car with a bike rack?
Good film guys.
And good call with the gel saddles, iv'e been telling anyone who will listen that for years. Standard bike saddles are a pain in the ass, literally.
The C&O/Gap trails are on my bucket list for sure, but as i live in England its kinda tricky to plan right now with the Covid situation.
So i'm making do the the canal network here in the U.K
Hi, I am having trouble understanding why the bike was the issue. What is wrong with riding mountain bike? I’m not trying to be problematic. I’ve been watching lots of videos and would love to do this ride. I have a Cannondale mountain bike. Why wouldn’t I ride that on the trail? What is it? I’m not understanding? Thanks for your help.
We hope to do the Erie Canal someday. Just subscribed and look forward to watching more of your videos.
What rental car company had a 1 way trip available from DC to Cumberland? I can't seem to find any, so any tips would be welcome!
Glad you guys had fun, I'm leaving on the 5th of September to ride from Pittsburgh to DC and back on the GAP and C&O. Weather permitting, I have a feeling with all this rain parts of the C&O could be flooded, especially the section along the river.
Oh yikes, that’s super ambitious! I hope some of the muddy sections can dry up for you!!
I'm heading there next week to ride C&O Canal Trail with my gravel bike, should be good. 👍
You’ll have a better time than us, haha!!
@@BottomLineUpFront Ha-ha 😊 It's hot here in Florida, hopefully cooler there.
I just finished weekend warrior completing the C&O on my mountain bike doing out and back day trips and I was thankful to have it instead of my hybrid bike. There are a lot of roots and rocks on the trail. I saw a lot of hybrid riders changing flats but no mountain bikers changing flats. I think it’s all up to personal preference. Also, not sure where you rode on a paved trail on the C&O but it’s all dirt or cinder track. Ride your ride, everyone is different.
Dope 😎😎
She is very cute!
And a great biking companion...
Yay for move travel videos! Missed these!!
Rode C&O for 2 days. Started in Cumberland and jumped off in Leesburg. Got bored because the views were mostly the same for mile after mile.
What? Wild in West Virginia? :-) Say it ain't so! That big, plush seat means a lot of your
effort when you pedal is pushing that seat up and down.
Before I viewed it, I was going to say make sure you have fenders unless you enjoy mud.
You never crossed into West Virginia. The C&O is in Maryland. It does not cross the Potomac.
This trek is on my list of things to do. I have a gravel bike that should work well. The two of you work well together!
What car rental service did you use to get to Cumberland?
What car did you rent? How did you transport your bikes?
Don't recall the car, but it was just a sedan -- we had to pull the front tires off of the bikes to fit them into the trunk with the back seats down.
something I have been contemplating on since last summer. I didn't know air b&b was an option other than at the starting point at Cumberland. I have done small chunks on multiple trips using both touring [hybrid on 44c] and MTB. both will work considering northern part of the trail can get very muddy in many sections after a rain. but definitely bike fender will be helpful to keep things cleaner.
Now that some time has passed, we’ll admit it was a fun trip despite the weather. As long as you have the right bike. 😎
Where did you guys rent and drop the bikes in DC?
Great video!!!
The shop we used actually closed down, but I know there are more!
Thank you you guys are great!!!! I am going oct 9 from Cumberland - then train to Pittsburgh to ride back to cumberland what year and month was this? I have a hybrid trek and put 33 tires on at recommendation of trip leader
We did this over Memorial Day weekend this year, we NEVER imagined it could be so cold, haha!
I was literally looking for a new video from you guys yesterday!
Nice Honest video , because even though as a whole its an enjoyable experience , every minute is not bliss .😊
Haha, you said it 😊
One of best videos of this trip. Thanks for sharing.
I really appreciate your filmmaking skills. Production values are on point!
Thank you!! 😁😁😁
Did ya all get interrogated by the bicycle patrol like me and my dogs did?..or did they just sneak up on you and then honk the BOZZO horn?
Water is treated with iodine at most of the handpumps. Bring your choice of water powders.
This is the video to watch prior to a thru trip on the C&O.
Awesome video, The good thing about Dollar General close you’re only out $8
So here is my funny C&O Canal story. Walking my old Black Labrador (Molly - as in my avatar) near the Clara Barton section, she was off in front sniffing around like always. When from around a bend ahead I heard a huge commotion. Next thing I know Molly comes flying past with something in her mouth followed by one angry fisherman. The little sod had snatched a decent sized fish right off the blokes line as he was reeling it in. The fisherman got so flustered he ended up falling in the canal, and lost his shoes in the subsequent chase for his catch. I think that episode cost me $50 and a very big sorry.
Hahah! What a story, both for you and the fisherman 🙃
Best to keep your dog on a leash.
The C&O canal never enters West Virginia.
We've camped at serval of campground along the trail. It's nice to our taxes dollars going to something for people to get out and enjoy.
You are correct
Great trail and yes, Hybrid is always best on these trails.
Love this video! Great adventurous spirit and good information, but mostly it's refreshing to get a cycle tour report from people who aren't grizzled globe trotting veterans. A group of us is riding C&O/GAP later this year. This video will help us be prepared, and we're looking forward to the trip even more because we're year 'round all weather distance cyclists so we can now comfortably focus on other aspects of the tour. Like getting good B&Bs and planning side trips like to Falling Water. Will bring our gravel bikes, which are the modern equivalent of hybrids. Many thanks!
You guys are effing AWESOME!!!! I SO WANNA DO THIS.....
I would be using the mountain bike I have. Hybrids are expensive and well, don’t have the $$ for that. So yeah ……
It’s all about the tires - no knobbies…
I ride the C&O once in a while. I use a mountain bike with 29" x 2.25 semi knobby tires @ 65psi. I don't see the problem.
Welcome back, looks like a great trip even with the rain. :)
The most fun we never want to have again! 😆😆
@@BottomLineUpFront haha, looked like it
You two are hilarious. Thanks for the info.
You rented these bikes, and you want to give advice on what type of bike to ride on the CnO ??? Ha !
Correct.
Wouah, thanks for your share 🤩 love your vidéos
SOMETHING I WOULD LOVE TO DO IN DEATH VALLEY IS GO ON ONE OF THE WINDING-ROUGH ROADS THAT GET 4WD ATTENTION AND DIG I NICE 2.5 WIDE BY 8 INCHES DEEP HOLE RIGHT OFF THE ROAD SOMEWHERE AND PLANT I FIRE HYDRANT IN THE MIDDLE SO THAT IT LOOKS TO BE PLACED WITH INTENT. MY WIFE IS SOUTH AFRICAN BRITISH SO IT'S DOUBTFUL SHE WOULD LIKE ANYTHING THERE OTHER THAN TEA KETTLE JUNCTION.
There is nothing quite like jumping off a cliff to see how high it is 😂
Agreed!
Learned a lot. Thanks
She is waaaaayyy too hot for him. And he seems kinda whiny.
You must live a sad life.
Great video. But I tend to stick with the mountain bike for the effort. If I am not beat at the end of the day I feel as though I have cheated myself. But I can see why many people would prefer a hybrid.
We’re pretty good bikers, trained up for half ironmen, but this was harder haha!
Dude, those glasses are rough lol...but srsly, really nice video!
I thought they were quite stylish 😎😂
Couldn't get past 38 seconds due to the rapid talking!
Sorry, it requires rapid thinking 😛
I prefer getting the info quickly.
You can set the talk speed to Southern in the settings. 0.5 for Arkansas, all else is probably 0.75.
the quality of the video is great, but the autofocus of the camera is shit
You're telling us; we're looking at getting a new camera in the near future. Panasonic isn't cutting it anymore.
Hate to say it but you just seemed pretty miserable for the entire trip. Perhaps because you don't ride bikes often enough that you are used to the miles. I will be doing the GAP and C&O Canal trip (Pittsburg to DC) later this year. I am a bit confused by the main point of your video, which was don't use a mountain bike. You didn't really say what the benefit of a hybrid was over the MTB. If it is just the tires then that is easily remedied as you can get fast-rolling tires for a mountain bike. I have them on my hardtail as I ride a lot of mixed surfaces. I guess if you are renting bikes then you might opt for a gravel/hybrid bike. So was it just the heavy lugs of the MTB that you felt were the issue? Thanks for the video.
Exactly - the efficiency was terrible. We were the only MTBs that we saw of hundreds of riders, and it was obvious why. We are fit people, and we’ve done half ironman races, so are quite experienced at biking.
@@BottomLineUpFront thanks. I will be using my hardtail but as I said, it has been outfitted with faster rolling tires so it should serve me well on those smooth segments. Cheers
LOL - agree. Light planning and light training will not deliver a good experience and gel seats won't solve much. Gravel Bike, train and plan and the GAP/C&O is an excellent adventure. 4th run for me an a crew this year (2 C&O and 2nd GAP/C&O) and mix up Camping stops, Lockhouse rentals, etc. and most importantly learned and improved each trek. Old Viking sayin - There's No Bad Weather, Only Bad Clothing.
Great video! I live in Cumberland and prefer riding my mountain bike over my hybrid when riding the C&0. When the trail gets very muddy the slicker tires of a hybrid can lose their grip on the shoulders of the water-filled mudholes and cause a wreck. If you can time your ride during the dry season then I can see why you would recommend hybrid tires. In my experience if you only have a mountain bike then fill your tires to the max air pressure and they will roll smoother and faster on the dry, packed trail while still giving you grip during unexpected muddy conditions..
Do NOT use the water from the pumps on the way--even back when this video was posted, the water was heavily treated with iodine, now they don't even do that. If you do, please use a water filter.
Also, the C&O Tow Path NEVER crosses over to West Virginia (or any other state)--the entirety of it is in Maryland.
Kindly check email send by Lubna.
Yes, I will disagree about the tires. I rode over 70 miles on the C&O, on Silk sew up tubular tires, 1994. No flats heeheeeeee. I've ridden some sections since, but that's my claim to fame. It's not the tires it's the rider, ride what you ride.
The C&O Canal Towpath is an epic, historic journey. An 11.5-minute, rushed video does not do it justice.
Will make a 7 hour video on it.
No one forced you to watch this video.
Where did you rent a car for $42????
Think it was Hertz? Not completely sure, but yea, we were blown away by the price as well, thought it was a glitch.
Daaaayum! Hope you packed some cheese for that whine.
They Do Not have water every 2-3 miles....
So Beautiful 👌❤️❤️
New Friends
Full Sapport Dear Friends 🤝🤝😍🥰
Or just buy fast tires for your mountain bike...
Yes that works too
You wanted to say you did it.
Not actually do it.
We wanted it to not pour near freezing rain.
@@BottomLineUpFront I rode from Upland, CA. to New Mexico.
I cried. Lol
That’s 11:37 of my life I’ll never get back. You obviously went into this with your eyes closed and have blamed everything other than yourselves for the poor experience. BTW, your “biking experience” with half Ironman competitions is virtually un transferable to real cycling applications. I await your smug response anxiously.
[insert smug response here]
Sometimes you don't WANT to plan. You take it as it comes.
I feel like they were very inspiring . I appreciate that they were very beginner friendly. It made me realize I don’t have to be a super professional in order to atttempt
What a downer Dan. So glad I did not ride the trail with you.
Why would a cyclists not do a lot of cycling in DC???? Wait, a cyclist would totally ride around DC with all those bike paths!!!
padded seats? hahahah
Butt hurt
Did you even enjoy it!? Complain complain complain!
Dude the real feel was 38 degrees.
Cold sucks! Just did an XC and we had 34F mornings in the deserts. Thank God for Jetboils and coffee!
It seems like this trip sucked
Weather can make a world of difference. Was a freak cold spell with rain on what is normally a beautiful time of year. 🤷🏻♂️