Backhoe & Compact Tractor Excavating //Prepping a Building Pad - My Brother's Barn Build Part 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ต.ค. 2024
- We had to finish the building pad for my brother's 36'X56' Pole and the rain and weather kept us away from it for several weeks. We were finally able to get some recycled concrete hauled in and leveled up the building pad and then got all of the muddy topsoil spread back around the outside. We were done just in the knick of time for the Amish building crew to get started.
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That guy is a master plumber that fixed the broken tile. That's the equivalent to building a ship in a bottle.
Haha! He mentioned the fact that he thought he had performed quite the little miracle. That is all tough to do, especially when laying on your belly with you head in a dark hole! I'm sure he appreciates you noticing and I thank you as always for watching!
Neil, you may be the only guy I have seen that seems to prefer grading with a backhoe when there is a perfectly good skid steer on the job! lol Those Amish are something! There was about 5 of them working on mine, not counting a driver that never got out of the van. The 30 something by 40 something building was up in 3 days. They spoke a type of dialect to communicate which they did very little of. Each one knew exactly what their task was. No wasted steps! Now I want to build another one...
Yeah, I usually gravitate to that backhoe cause it is just what I know. Skid loader is OK but I have trouble "feeling" it like I can in the backhoe for whatever reason. The Amish building this were exactly the same. Very able bodied driver sat in the van almost the entire time but got out and helped when they asked him to. They made short work of it too! I love the building process just hate paying for it!
Oh no, not a cliffhanger... I can't wait for the next episode.
Ha! I should have used some suspenseful music or something to hype it up more :)
Jarret the Man.... yes, color me jealous!
Ha! You must have been close!
@@digdrivediy second by just a few seconds!
Neil and dirt work is amazing!
Your videos are the BEST!
Thanks so much!
@@digdrivediy yes indeed! Much deserved!
And I am STILL finding more videos that I am.enjoyibg your skills!
Hey Neil, I just want to say you do an excellent job with your videos. I love watching them. Keep up the good work.
I really appreciate you saying that Steve. Thanks for watching!
Good Job Neil! I did four years as a combat engineer running heavy equipment. My favorite piece of equipment was the backhoe. You're a good operator! Keep up the good work and excellent content!
Very cool!
Like thye video on your Brother Pad .
Thanks Leo!
Hi Neil. Recently subscribed and loving your videos. Greetings from Scotland.
Hey Kyle! That's awesome! I'd love to visit Scotland some day. Thanks so much for saying hi and checking out the videos!
Good looking barn start.
yes sir. It's looking good. Thanks Charles.
I haven’t forgot about your video, we went up to the mackinaw bridge to watch the antique tractor crossing and we’ve been busy. If you ever get a chance to go watch that up there, what a experience. 1500 tractors, and it’s a 4-5 hour parade crossing the bridge. It was actually bigger than I was expecting, and I know one of the organizers personally through my work (he works about 50 yards from me is all). He’s been telling me for a few years now that I have to experience it, and he was right!
So I will get a video real quick for you tomorrow after work of the new truck finally. 🤣
I can’t get over wanting to do my box blade up just like the one you use on bill. It works so much nicer than any 3 point attached one. The garage you guys are building is something I hope to go through myself one of these years coming up hopefully pretty soon. I’m wanting to take a cdl corse here in the next month or so, and I wanna graduate from my current job of 17 years, and move onto trucking.
That Mackinaw trip sounds awesome. We were in Michigan over the Labor Day weekend and I know the bridge was closed Monday. I would like to experience that some day for sure but the wife and daughters probably not as much interest... :(
That grader box really is a versatile and useful tool. My brother is gonna love this barn once it's done for sure.
I can't imagine having to get my CDL again now but it has always been worth having it. I always say you're never out of work if you have a CDL!
Looking forward to that video Rob. Thanks for checking in!
@@digdrivediy I got that video finally today after I got home. You can find it on my page if you want, it’s addressed to you, or I can send it in a email if you prefer too. 💪🏽 looking forward to tomorrow’s video already. Wanna see this barn done.
I saw you on Tractor Time with Tim I decided to give your channel a watch glad I did really enjoying your videos
I'm very glad you did as well Shane! Thanks for the kind words and appreciate you watching!
Always interesting to see how different builders do things.
For sure BG. Glad to have you watching!
Fun to watch, thanks!
Appreciate you watching and commenting!
That tile repair looked fun.
Yeah. Real sorry I missed out on that one (not).
Hi Neil haha .
from the Netherlands thanks for the video
👋 Hi Hollandduck! :)
I look forward to your videos more than I do any tv show lol thanks for letting us tag along
Wow, that's quite a compliment Christopher. Thanks so much for tuning in and there very kind words. Hope you continue to enjoy.
new subcriber here just enjoying the old videos, love it
Can't wait!
Appreciate it Rick!
You’re a fine backhoe operator Neil 👍🏽. Nice job.
Hey thanks Tim. I've had a few decades to practice :)
Nice work! You make grading that out look easy.
Hey thanks a lot WC!
Neil, you can add polishing concrete to your resume'! The pad came out nice. But, I thought you might want to know.... 220 grit is about right for paint grade... but, if your gonna stain it you might want to go to 400. It keeps the stain from splotching!
Mennonite crews built my shop, the addition to my shop and my equipment barn. The first 24'X24' shop build used solid 6X6's in 1996. The crew was on-site for 17 hours. (It would have been 1.5 less but, they had to come back and install the garage door after it arrived.) The 24'X24' shop add-on also used solid 6X6's in 2014. That crew worked for the nephew of the previous builder and was on-site for 14 hours with one concrete finisher who had to stick around a couple of hours to do the final troweling. Both of these jobs included 1" rigid foam insulation, windows, doors and concrete.
In the equipment barn, we talked about the options of using solid 6X6 posts, fully laminated posts or solid posts below ground level with laminated 2X6's above. In the end, we went with solid 6X6's because the front of the barn is open and the builder (more so than me) thought it would look better. It was built at 36'X18' with a 4' open front overhang. It doesn't have 1" rigid foam insulation, windows, doors or concrete. They were onsite 13 hours in 2020.
In each case the experience of watching a organized crew of highly skilled workers was pure pleasure. Each had his particular job at each stage of the build. There were very few instructions or requests for help. They worked so well together that when help was needed, someone was there waiting do so. Their attitude and cheerful banter was refreshing. Professionalism was apparent in even the youngest 'helpers'. They walked away each time with a spotless jobsite and a totally satisfied customer.
That crew built 75 pole buildings last year. Some as large as factories.... some even smaller than mine.
When my first shop was built, I had shopped around for contractors. A carpenter buddy of mine had his partner quote building it. They came in almost 50% higher with a two month wait... just to start. The Mennonite crew gave me a 2 week completion guarantee... which only the delayed delivery of the roll-up door missed.
After it was built, my carpenter buddy came by to inspect. He told me that they wouldn't have used trusses because they were too expensive and you don't really need them in a pole building. He also told me that the 6X6 posts were overkill.... the standard was to use 4X4's. He then explained to me that because I was going to cover the inside walls, putting the insulation on the outside was a mistake. It would be better to put it between the horizontal stringers. And lastly, the roll-up door entrance is an inch below the floor inside. When the crew found out that I would be rolling small wheeled equipment like my air compressor, push mower and Shopsmith through it, they tapered the entrance instead or putting in a lip. He informed me that I was asking for trouble because without the lip snow would blow in. His conclusion was that the shop was overbuilt and the crew had missed a few important points.
I just let him talk. When he finished I thanked him and started to usher him out when he said, "You should have let us build it for you. We would have done it right and saved you a lot of money."
I told him, "Perhaps but your bid came in 50% higher, four times the delay and thought it would take a week to build. They built it in 17 hours... and I got trusses and 6X6's. I'll put my trust in a good bottom seal to keep the snow from blowing under the door."
His response, "They don't have to pay all of the taxes that we do. And, they buy their lumber by the truckload. It isn't a fair comparison."
I just told him, "Good points... I'll live with my mistakes."
Just one last note, the laminated 6X6's are stronger than solid 6X6's. They are laminated in a factory with adhesive cured under applied pressure.
Thanks for the time lapse, I can watch skilled competence at work all day!
I think it sounds like you made the right choice. Anytime I hear the word "overkill" with a building project I consider that to be a bonus rather than a detriment.
It is certainly enjoyable to watch a skilled crew work their magic. These guys are no exception. They were having fun and gettin' it done in no time flat. I have helped build some pole barns and such and I find it much more enjoyable to watch. I paid to have mine built by guys that knew what they were doing as well and it is just a rewarding feeling to know that I didn't have to fumble my way through something that someone else is already an expert on. When you build 75+ barns a year you've got to know a thing or two!
Much like me, my brother had the building built and the concrete poured by contractors. The same thing I said above about watching a building go up applies to concrete as well. I learned a long time ago I am not cut out to pour concrete. You only get one chance to get it right and I am the type of guy that likes the security of an eraser on a pencil or a second take for a video shoot! Once the outside and the floor is done then he will finish everything on the interior, just as I did as well. No time crunch and no real weather concerns once buttoned up inside.
So, that's why the 220 grit is as fine as I go. You'll see in the next video that we let the concrete guys do the 400 grit pass, and they did a terrific job at that!
I'm glad to hear your take on the laminated posts also. That's what is in my building although I don't have the plastic wrap at the bottom. Wish I did.
Thanks for keeping up on the project and sharing insight from yours. See ya next time around!
@@digdrivediy I don’t need the eraser on the pencil… I have one as big a a shoe sole right there in the desk!
I am posting a video this week where we spent a whole morning just putting up 4 posts…. Then fixing my stupid mistake!
Pole building is not in my resume’ !!!
Being a retired builder, I always find any type of building in the State's interesting.
I bet so Nev. It would be interesting to see how things like this are done in other lands.
Omg i love your channel and the content you share! What you do is far for what i usually like. But your videos are great!
I can’t wait to see how you got them moved... I’m sure it’s creative
I thought it was clever :) Thanks Andrew!
love the way you keep the build site so neat ,you are a wiz with that backhoe
Always feels good to make things look "smooth"! Thanks Ron!
Best Sunday morning viewing available anywhere...sorry PBS, NBC, etc al...
Wow, I appreciate that Alan. Thanks for tuning in sir!
I'm a week behind, but I guess that means I'm closer to the next one. Great job prepping everything, waiting to envision the final product in the next video or the next one after that. Keep the great videos coming Neil.
Appreciate it Don!
The barn looks really big i bet you could fit lots of stuff in it Neil.
I wish I could put my stuff in it! My brother will have it full in no time I'm afraid! Thanks for watching Ryan!
Looking good Neil. Should be able to get it nice and weathertight before the cold weather hits!
Yes sir. I think that won't be a problem. He's shooting to have it insulated by winter fall. We'll see.
Looking good Neil, look forward to part 3...
Thanks John. I really appreciate it.
Kudos on the tile repair! Looks like a nice size building. Can’t wait to see how you get the trusses moved.
It's a great size. He'll have it filled up in no time I'm sure! :)
Great video. I ised to deleiver pole barns. Its pretty neat to watch a crew of two or three guys put one up. Is that an amish crew doing the work, cant beat them boys for carpentry skills. Thanks for sharing Neil.
Yep, you guessed it. Amish guys around here dominate the construction place and rightfully so. They do it quick and good. Thanks Kory. Great to see your name pop up sir.
@@digdrivediy i watch all your videos but most my questions are answered in the comments or by you in your videos. Tbh i cant wait for the wood cutting videos for winter
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good job ... oldtony
I continue to enjoy the videos. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Jim. I really appreciate hearing that from you.
I got an Amish crew from Berne to build my 30x48x12 with a porch, only took them 5 days with 5guys and it snowed the first 2 days.
These Amish boys are pretty darn fast as well. They've only got 5 days in this one and it is done. They are from down around Berne also.
I hope your brother appreciates the amount of talent he gets when you help him! Looks like it’s going to be a nice building plus going to give him more privacy at the pond…. How do you pronounce that again? The body of water in your backyard?😂. Take care my friend
Ha! You know how brothers are... He offers me a beer when we're done and that is our understood "thank you".
He's gonna have a really nice building and it will play well with that pawned. Pa'nd. Pahnnd. Pohnd. I can't remember how to say it. (I actually thought of you when I was saying it on camera believe it or not) Thanks so much for watching Mike! :)
As I recall, those trusses were moved right before band practice 🥁🎸
You remembered correctly by golly! Made me late... Which is nothing new.
i need you for my brother !! 😂
Ha! Brothers are good for making sure I don't get too bored looking for something to do! Thanks Berry!
As I watched this video, I kept thinking "You use what equipment you have to get the job done" and "There is never enough "material" for what you are doing". Were the builders Amish? They do good work and are sought after here (WNY). Another good series by you and again thanks for taking the time and effort to video!
Yes, we do certainly try to get by with what we've got. They are Amish builders and they've done a great job. Glad to have you watching along Richard.
Great video also a great family just a thought with your access to farmers maybe look into finding a gas powered transfer pump that my need some TLC as a back up for your outside sump pump just a thought
I've had to use a gas trash pump before. Not a bad idea to have one on the ready I suppose.
What you are doing in this video is where a bulldozer would come in very handy, not even a big one but just any bulldozer, especially one with a 6-way blade
It should be interesting seeing how you move the trusses.
I thought it was pretty clever. Fortunately it went really well too.
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No I'm afraid I haven't. Might have to check it out.
That tile repair was a real feat. Do they wash the recycled crushed concrete to remove oils and other pollutants.
That's a great question but to my knowledge they don't wash it. It goes through a powerful magnet conveyor system to remove metal so maybe they do spray it, but I doubt it. Fortunately I don't think there are too many pollutants in it but of course I'm not entirely sure of that either.
Enjoyed this video and looking forward to the next. Would you have used a power rake attachment for helping spread “material” if available or is back dragging with your experience just as easy?
I'd love to try one of those power rake attachments but I don't feel I really would have needed it for the stone pad. I think it would be really helpful for the dirt around the outside though just to help get it fluffed up and easier to work with. I'm looking forward to an opportunity to try one some day. Thanks for watching John.
@@digdrivediy well if you get one, please show us all👍.
Buddy!
Whatcha using your laser level setup?
Maybe something a little smaller for my setup.
Those Amish know how to work!!!!!
Thank you !
I have a Topcon RL-H4C. I think that model is discontinued but they still have something similar. It's in the $500 range for the laser head. I also use a lenker rod instead of the normal fiberglass telescoping stick. I think they are much more useful. I had a cheaper laser for about 5 years before the Topcon. It was junk compared to this one. I love the Topcon for what I do.
Those Amish boys get 'er done for sure!
Great video. But i was wondering... So you built up the site with dirt. a lot of dirt. What is the reason? Obviously to make it level you had to build up the far side. But how high above grade do you need to build up the site for a pole barn? Is there a general rule of thumb?
We raised it up to a safe elevation against potential flash flooding in the field. We know that with heavy rain this area was prone to be under a few inches of water from heavy rain events so we took it up to an elevation we know will likely remain dry. I would suggest that on any build that you get it up to an elevation you know is traditionally dry. Great question.
I had a 60x60 FBI building put up 3 days from start to finish with 4 guys what took so long
Haha! Our part was slow but the guys building it only took 4 days as well. They only worked about half days too. Out of here by 2pm every day!
Can we truss that you came up with a good plan to move the trusses? 😉
Ha! It worked pretty good I must say!
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Saw the build team and this immediately came to mind! th-cam.com/video/lOfZLb33uCg/w-d-xo.html
Hahaha! That song runs through my head on occasion and now it will be an ear worm all week thanks to clicking on that link! We have the "Electric Amish" from Bob and Tom too. Good stuff. :)
What you are doing in this video is where a bulldozer would come in very handy, not even a big one but just any bulldozer, especially one with a 6-way blade
Yes it sure would be handy. I had a dozer for a while and used it about 2-3 times a year. Backhoe still got it done I guess. Thanks for watching!