Phenomenal video, have a few questions though: 1) Is IAD still Genetic's most damaging skill in 4.0? Is it worth investing in a +10 Elder's Hammer [2] as a Genetic? 2) Is there no way to trigger Minorous Insight effect on Creator/Genetic? Is it even necessary? 3) What is the survivability of INT based Creator/Genetic like in 4.0? Don't you get one-shotted by Mana Trap (damage based on target INT)? 4) What is the HP pool/HP multiplier of Creator/Genetic like? Assuming exact same stats, where do they rank among the non-swordsman classes max HP wise? 5) What is more deadly in PvP? Genetic or Shadow Chaser? What is more deadly in WoE? Thanks!
1a. FE would be our most damaging skill as it has runes that increases its damage. FE is basically IAD with splash. (note that this will change in the future) 1b. Elder's Hammer is our END GAME Weapon even at episode 5. Not sure how will it go with episode 6 2. I wouldn't even bother unless you just want it. I think there's a weapon (noble cross) that will let you trigger it, but you will forego the bonus of Elder's hammer. Not worth it IMO for IAD/FE. Maybe just maybe for Hell Plant build. 3. It does hurt us in episode 4 until the patch that will allow racial modifier to affect mana trap. Check my recent PvP testing. See for yourself our survivability facebook.com/simpleonin/videos/2375772269321683/ 4. I think we can hit the average mark, and that is because of our new skill. 5. Genetic ( Biased ) I suggest joining the Alchemist channel on this server. We have a lot of helpful players that will answer your other questions. They can also give you different perspective than mine. discord.gg/NEccsCX
Great content. I have been watching you for a while and your vids arethe reason why I want to be a creator so I left my sniper and end equips behind to follow a new path. Thanks Onin hope to face you soon in PVP.
Next video or stream. This video is already 11 minutes long and a lot of message I get is suggesting to keep it short which kinda make sense so we can focus on the topic.
@simpleonin great vids as always sir.just wanna ask regarding the build.dont know if its already asked but still just wanna ask again.why prioritized maxing the int first.rather than str?i knew that iad damage is based on p atk and m atk?but upon watching your vid u were maxing int stats first then dex to around 270+hit..then that is the time that you are putting stats on your str and vit. And is this build still recommended in episode 5?i mean due to nerfed/rebalancing that happens on creo/gene iad and fe skills.hope you can give me a feedback.thanks!!
OTT : seems the formula not same as PCragnarok online, IAD not on catagory "range dmg" beside they originaly a range skill and neutral dmg" using a ignore will be no used cz their dmg skill is from how many VIT enemy have.. also so big VIT enemy have ,actualy have a BIG dmg.. this skill problably a nightmare for tanks or MVP who have big VIT on their stat(you also can check RMS)
simpleonin Oh ok.. I was wondering if the d.wing will boost IAD damage, oh well, I guess not.. so does that mean, the ignore m.def runes in our aesir are useless? Thanks onin!
Sir I'm confused, according to ur vid IAD is considered melee?? because it does not exceed 3.0m right?? but according list.wiki in google the cast range is 6.0m.. I'm now confused if melee atk/dmg. still useful for IAD
Hi Onin my yoda master. XD Which is better? Frost mask or monocle +10? Magestic goat +10 or orc hero +10? Magestic +10 is 20% ignore def. Magestic can be sloted?
For Monocle and Frostmask, it depends on how much M.Atk you currently have. Frost mask may still be better than Monocle. For MG vs OH, if you really lack ignore defense then MG would be better, but if you have decent ignore defense and for general use, I'd go +10 OHH
I have a question so If arcane doesnt help us and mgc def ig doesnt why do we have runes for it? Cuz I got a arcane 3 ancient Cape and people said it's useless for us: (
On the runes I can see that you are getting runes for Axe Mastery, can we avoid those and get other runes since we are using a Mace? Or our mace benefit from it as well? Thank you.
How about fire expansion in genetic? We don’t need alloy armor anymore and M.atk for that skill? I see in Chinese server everyone use that skill not iAd anymore
I believe fire expansion is still based on IAD. Take note that I haven't played CN, but I am excited to go in blind with the up coming patch. I'll share my discoveries
I recommend both of them in my video. We need their Magic Attack AND the Sharp Blade Enchant that you can get from those accessories. It allows you to get M.Atk and at the same time, increasing your P.Atk because of the Sharp Blade Enchants.
M.DMG increase doesnt affect IAD? Thats sad, two of my eq have 4th enchant M.DMG increase. One has 2% and the other is 8% should i sell those? How about acid demo sir?
EOD vs OG Assuming max tier at epi 5 and +15 1% M. Atk Difference between the two with OG winning the M.Atk battle as it has 1% more M.Atk %. However, I will choose EOD for everything else. It gives you VCT, ignore mdef, more int for Int switch runes and cart cannon ( and mana trap lol) EOD - 10 INT, 15% M.Atk, VCT-5%, 121 M.Atk from tier, 5% ignore mdef OG - 4 Int, 16% M.Atk, 6 Dex, 4 Int If you are starting and can't +10 EOD then get OG.
I miss that one slide haha. If you have both Guts and Golden March, deposit Guts for the 1% bonus and use Golden March. Windperch Drake is also good for one hit farming. If you have the gift tail from Christmas, that's also awesome for PvP and demi human monster
From one of my videos, I mentioned that Munak* is better for enemies with > 400 defense and archer* for anything lower than 400. Try to get at least 80% total ignore def to see the damage spike.
Thara for PvP. For PVE, Munak* for enemies with more than 400 defense, Archer Skel* for enemies with less than 400 defense. Try to get 60-80% ignore defense.
I haven't tested yet. Their description is a bit different. One increases the atk and the other increases the dmg. I do know for sure that melee dmg is calculated towards the end thus giving you more damage.
You can pretty much use any skill build, but LIF synergizes with IAD build. I haven't tried Vanilmirth so I couldn't really give a good one. Maybe you can use him as a utility to remove ailments
@@habypurwaanugrah8647 ahhh. Assuming you are a Genetic already, In order of priority for Lif: Greenery Light Wall Light of Regenration Touch of Heal Brain Surgery Vanilmirth Lava Torrent Bio Explosion Change Instruction
We really don't farm using IAD. Our farming skills are Hell Plant - Cart Cannon - Sphere Parasitism. You can also try normal attacks if you are starting.
You are leading the advancement of this class in the game. Your channel is a gold mine of knowledge and value.
youre one of the main reason i was inspired to multi job my WS to creator..
There's so much information on this video. Looking forward to see more videos from you bro. Well done!
This video so useful! I been waiting for this one for a while ty
You sir are a legend for us creators! Hoping to hear more from you and your build guides!
Never watched a video this detailed. Great video sir
I'm no Genetic but i got a lot by watching this. props to you sir.
Phenomenal video, have a few questions though:
1) Is IAD still Genetic's most damaging skill in 4.0? Is it worth investing in a +10 Elder's Hammer [2] as a Genetic?
2) Is there no way to trigger Minorous Insight effect on Creator/Genetic? Is it even necessary?
3) What is the survivability of INT based Creator/Genetic like in 4.0? Don't you get one-shotted by Mana Trap (damage based on target INT)?
4) What is the HP pool/HP multiplier of Creator/Genetic like? Assuming exact same stats, where do they rank among the non-swordsman classes max HP wise?
5) What is more deadly in PvP? Genetic or Shadow Chaser? What is more deadly in WoE?
Thanks!
1a. FE would be our most damaging skill as it has runes that increases its damage. FE is basically IAD with splash.
(note that this will change in the future)
1b. Elder's Hammer is our END GAME Weapon even at episode 5. Not sure how will it go with episode 6
2. I wouldn't even bother unless you just want it. I think there's a weapon (noble cross) that will let you trigger it, but
you will forego the bonus of Elder's hammer. Not worth it IMO for IAD/FE. Maybe just maybe for Hell Plant build.
3. It does hurt us in episode 4 until the patch that will allow racial modifier to affect mana trap.
Check my recent PvP testing. See for yourself our survivability
facebook.com/simpleonin/videos/2375772269321683/
4. I think we can hit the average mark, and that is because of our new skill.
5. Genetic ( Biased )
I suggest joining the Alchemist channel on this server. We have a lot of helpful players that will answer your other questions. They can also give you different perspective than mine.
discord.gg/NEccsCX
Im new to playing creator and your vids are very helpful lots of straight forward information. Thanks alot sir keep it up.
Wait for the next one :)
simpleonin gotchu fam..
Great content. I have been watching you for a while and your vids arethe reason why I want to be a creator so I left my sniper and end equips behind to follow a new path. Thanks Onin hope to face you soon in PVP.
Looking forward to seeing you on the battlefield!
Great video, helped me a lot. At the start something happened with the music.
Copyright :( I appreciate the kind words thank you
Ive never clicked a video this fast
Thanks! Waiting for those Angel vs Devil wing comparison :>
Next video or stream. This video is already 11 minutes long and a lot of message I get is suggesting to keep it short which kinda make sense so we can focus on the topic.
very much appreciated your guides! hoping for more to come. God bless and more power to you idol!
Thank odin , you guide this very well 😊 now as a creator i know how need to do
Thank you for making me the almighty god Odin :P Enjoy being a creator !
@@simpleonin Thank you ! well then i can't wait for 3rd job too .. Genetic is coming 😊
@simpleonin great vids as always sir.just wanna ask regarding the build.dont know if its already asked but still just wanna ask again.why prioritized maxing the int first.rather than str?i knew that iad damage is based on p atk and m atk?but upon watching your vid u were maxing int stats first then dex to around 270+hit..then that is the time that you are putting stats on your str and vit. And is this build still recommended in episode 5?i mean due to nerfed/rebalancing that happens on creo/gene iad and fe skills.hope you can give me a feedback.thanks!!
very helpful guide thanks idol onin number one ka tlga sa mga creo more power idol keep it up 😊
Very useful thank you very much onin ...
thanks a lot for this.. KUDOS sayo bro.. unlike sheyee who post clickbait build on his channel..
OTT : seems the formula not same as PCragnarok online, IAD not on catagory "range dmg" beside they originaly a range skill and neutral dmg" using a ignore will be no used cz their dmg skill is from how many VIT enemy have.. also so big VIT enemy have ,actualy have a BIG dmg.. this skill problably a nightmare for tanks or MVP who have big VIT on their stat(you also can check RMS)
It's entirely different from RO PC. Also, MVPs in ROM doesn't have VIT :(
Sir Im a new player ..do you have updated video for IAD build? That is also best for farming? Creator is my main character. thank you in advance.
Thank you.. really helps me a lot. :-)
Hi onin, just a quick question. Does IAD benefit from increased M.Dmg (as in the devil wing’s 5% M.Dmg increase)?
Unfortunately, no. I tested M. Pen and Ignore M . Def as its damage is being reduced by those stats, but it doesn't help in damage.
simpleonin Oh ok.. I was wondering if the d.wing will boost IAD damage, oh well, I guess not.. so does that mean, the ignore m.def runes in our aesir are useless? Thanks onin!
nice vids creator guides as always @simpleonin senpai hahah
btw what is the name of song you used as background its sounds good ..........
Nothing Stopping Me Now
Amazing guide keep it up 👍🏻
how i wish my f2p char reach this kind of dmg 😭😭😭😭 thumbs up sir keep uploading helpful videos like this
Mantul. Emang op bgt ini creator job hahaha...
®obinHudas here thanks for giving me tips and infos for creos
Sir I'm confused, according to ur vid IAD is considered melee?? because it does not exceed 3.0m right?? but according list.wiki in google the cast range is 6.0m.. I'm now confused if melee atk/dmg. still useful for IAD
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Does M.Atk inc% like Agav card also helps with IAD? Thanks. Very informative guide.
Yes.
thanks a lot mate
DAMN, I LOVE THIS 😍😘🥰
Is the Complete gear guide video out already?
Hi Onin my yoda master. XD
Which is better? Frost mask or monocle +10? Magestic goat +10 or orc hero +10?
Magestic +10 is 20% ignore def. Magestic can be sloted?
For Monocle and Frostmask, it depends on how much M.Atk you currently have. Frost mask may still be better than Monocle.
For MG vs OH, if you really lack ignore defense then MG would be better, but if you have decent ignore defense and for general use, I'd go +10 OHH
what song did you used for this video? was nice after the few times listening to it, but now it says “this video got no sound”
so rich , well .. free player leave this chat. GG WP
I have a question so If arcane doesnt help us and mgc def ig doesnt why do we have runes for it? Cuz I got a arcane 3 ancient Cape and people said it's useless for us: (
For demonic fire and a joke from the devs lol
another proof that zeny is the true power in this game
On the runes I can see that you are getting runes for Axe Mastery, can we avoid those and get other runes since we are using a Mace? Or our mace benefit from it as well? Thank you.
I remove Axe mastery if I can. There are some runes that you need to activate in order to get to the other area.
How about fire expansion in genetic? We don’t need alloy armor anymore and M.atk for that skill? I see in Chinese server everyone use that skill not iAd anymore
I believe fire expansion is still based on IAD. Take note that I haven't played CN, but I am excited to go in blind with the up coming patch. I'll share my discoveries
Hi what about using the enchant Magic 4 (lower CT variable), will it help so you can put those extra points elsewhere where you normally put on dex?
We can't reach 0 cast time without 60 Dex + Lif + Alloy Armor. We also pump Dex for the hit rate
@@simpleonin Thanks. so the hit rate for hell plants then? Since IAD already ignores flee
Hi sir does magic damage inc affected IAD?
Would you recommend EOD or Orleans' glove and why?
I recommend both of them in my video. We need their Magic Attack AND the Sharp Blade Enchant that you can get from those accessories. It allows you to get M.Atk and at the same time, increasing your P.Atk because of the Sharp Blade Enchants.
M.DMG increase doesnt affect IAD? Thats sad, two of my eq have 4th enchant M.DMG increase. One has 2% and the other is 8% should i sell those? How about acid demo sir?
Yes, it doesn't affect IAD. Let's test the Acid Demo on the next stream
How hard was it to get 20% morale for alloy armor and elder hammer?
It's pure luck
Questions if IAD both uses atk and matk. Does it also need both phy pen and mag pen to enhance its dmg output? TIA
Only physical pen AFAIK
I see. Thanks for the info.
Is there an advantage to EoD over orleans gloves?? Or is orleans still preferable
EOD vs OG
Assuming max tier at epi 5 and +15
1% M. Atk Difference between the two with OG winning the M.Atk battle as it has 1% more M.Atk %.
However, I will choose EOD for everything else.
It gives you VCT, ignore mdef, more int for Int switch runes and cart cannon ( and mana trap lol)
EOD - 10 INT, 15% M.Atk, VCT-5%, 121 M.Atk from tier, 5% ignore mdef
OG - 4 Int, 16% M.Atk, 6 Dex, 4 Int
If you are starting and can't +10 EOD then get OG.
Thanks so much for the detailed answer
Good Job xD
What about recommendations for tail slot? :)
I miss that one slide haha. If you have both Guts and Golden March, deposit Guts for the 1% bonus and use Golden March. Windperch Drake is also good for one hit farming. If you have the gift tail from Christmas, that's also awesome for PvP and demi human monster
how about hellplant.. is that counted as melee attack or range attack? since hellplant is summoning skill so i have no idea
Same as IAD. Check my FAQ video
Does IAD effected by Ignore M.def?
It reduces our damage, but it doesn't increase its damage.
Nice video bro
waitt... IAD is not affected by mgk enchant rune, but the magk dmg of EOD works?
IAD damage calculation is ((atk + matk) x IAD multiplier) + enemy's vit so matk of EOD should work
Isnt it the same w/ mgk enchant rune? Since both of them adds mgk.
Hi can i ask if munak star is better for AID or archel skel star??TIA...
From one of my videos, I mentioned that Munak* is better for enemies with > 400 defense and archer* for anything lower than 400. Try to get at least 80% total ignore def to see the damage spike.
@@simpleonin thank you sir onin..
correct me if i am wrong. isn't IAD never misses? why do we need to increase HIT then?
Hell Plant is our zoning skill. In order to zone high flee characters and reveal them, your HP should be able to hit them first.
@@simpleonin i thought HP doesn't miss too, i never put dex on my 1 build, but it never misses.
@@supercarbs30 HP has around 500-550++ flee from my testing. It doesn't miss in PvE as we haven't encountered a monster with a very high flee
what different glass cannon and all round build #ask
The class cannon build is very good at dishing out numbers but is really squishy.
Hi. is Magic Damage and Magic attack different that's why it will not work?
M.Dmg = Damage Type
M.Atk = is one for the factor to calculate your Physical or Magic Damage
@@simpleonin ty
for bos hunt or mvp , what better build ?
It depends on your gears. If you check my latest stream for MvP wars, I am using the all around build.
Sir, munak star or archer skel star card for armor and why? Thanks in advance.
Thara for PvP. For PVE, Munak* for enemies with more than 400 defense, Archer Skel* for enemies with less than 400 defense. Try to get 60-80% ignore defense.
Thank you sir onin. One more thing sir, for my accessory, i will only go for EOD if its +10 right? But if its not, i should go for OG?
Short answer is Yes
Can you do mvp? I could not any of creator do mvp not in endless tower
He did a mvp battle in his live stream go check it out
black wing or twin katana ? that same or nah
I haven't tested yet. Their description is a bit different. One increases the atk and the other increases the dmg. I do know for sure that melee dmg is calculated towards the end thus giving you more damage.
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What if 7 skill poin put in acid demon? Still good?
I leave it to you. The last 7 would be a good way to fine tune your build. If you have magic attack, Acid Demo can deal 80k + dmg per tick
Sir 1 more question. Skill acid terror can improve dmg for IAD? Like sphere mine improve dmg sphere parasit
Wow thats alot of zeny
is Acid Demonstration, not IAD, affected by magic damage increase? I would like to know because I use hell plants + Acid Demo when boss hunting thanks
I would think so as it is Fire Magic Damage. Let's try on the next stream.
What skill build for homun lif and vanimilth dude?
You can pretty much use any skill build, but LIF synergizes with IAD build. I haven't tried Vanilmirth so I couldn't really give a good one. Maybe you can use him as a utility to remove ailments
@@simpleonin i mean what skill important for lif, touch heal or shield ?
Brain surgery too?
@@habypurwaanugrah8647 ahhh.
Assuming you are a Genetic already,
In order of priority for Lif:
Greenery Light Wall
Light of Regenration
Touch of Heal
Brain Surgery
Vanilmirth
Lava Torrent
Bio Explosion
Change Instruction
@@simpleonin nah that answer who i need it , thanks pal
M.ignore deff no effect?
No. IAD is physical.
@@simpleonin ACC eod for what? Acid?
is change cart necessary ?
No. It's a personal preference.
@@simpleonin wow thanks for the reply
If low on zeny, can you farm using IAD? or just SP with multiplication card?
We really don't farm using IAD. Our farming skills are Hell Plant - Cart Cannon - Sphere Parasitism. You can also try normal attacks if you are starting.