@BENgalFan1369 maybe. WRs are very difficult to get into the HOF you have to really stand out in your generation in a lot of cases. Chase is definitely a very good receiver and has a shot but Sewell already has more All-Pro selections.
The choice was perfect for both teams. The Lions didn't need a big-time receiver at that point and the Bengals needed a weapon for JB. Sewell, though, is more of a "cornerstone" player for a rebuilding team in my opinion. He set a tone of toughness for the Lions right away
Disagree, burrow needed Sewell more than chase and lions did need a wr1 as they picked up st.brown in that same draft and he's basically been their top wr since. I wouldn't take chase over st brown and definitely wouldn't take him over Sewell. Not even close imo
@@dereckdunckelDisagree, Pitts was also mocked in that 5th spot, but has failed to do much. He wasn’t put in the right place. Chase’s potential is better on the bengals than on the lions. Same as Sewell, bengals needed 5 new starters on that line. Even someone as good as Sewell could not single-handedly raise that line. Chase was the clear option by a long shot, not even close
@bd8037 couldn't disagree more, they clearly needed offensive line then and it was obvious, he's even had major injury since. St brown has been arguably just as good and he was available in the 4th. They clearly should have got Sewell then went after a wr. You build championship teams through the trenches then pick up playmaker after. If you find a franchise qb, then priority 1,2,and 3 is protecting him at all costs
@@jacksonklark6119 you forget an elite tackle is the difference when u face elite pass rushes, sewell shuts top edge rushers down and allows you to do anything
@@lilmonke2190not really its spot on. Bengals could have 10 different young recievers and Burrow wouldnt miss a beat. If he had a Lions like OL he'd have a superbowl by now. Stafford had Calvin Johnson but no oline and no running game Ive seen it for myself after Lions drafting WR for years. Once we got that oline shit changed real quick.
I agree but I now realize the other side of it with a few points. When you look at scarcity while there still aren't a lot of elite wr1s there are less tackles around the level of Sewell and those top guys than wrs around the level of Chase and those top guys. And when you look at longevity generally those top tackles have a longer shelf life than top receivers if we average it out, something I've noticed as I watch the league. That being said on the other side the immediate impact of Chase was more instrumental and the value that kind of guy brings is giving that true 1 weapon for a qb to rely on as well as opening up the other pieces of the offense for more opportunity because of his prescence which includes the run game. Offensive linemen and tackles more so than interior guys have a huge impact still in the run game and pass pro but naturally it is less off of their singular presence not quite having as much impact because the rest of the unit matters more in those reactive positions like secondaries and offensive line compared to receivers and pass rushers just simply because of weak link theory. Tackles and corners still add the idea of being able to slide coverage or protection away from them it's just big weaknesses in the unit kill things more than a bad number 3 receiver with a high drop rate for example would. Safe to say both teams are happy with who they got imo
I don't think the question is between Chase or Sewell, they play different positions. I think the better question is, who is better, Chase or the WR the Lions picked in the 4th round in 2021.
Sewell might have made a difference with all of Burrows injuries. What if he take less hits and sacks giving Burrow time to make avg receivers good. Also remember he still would have Tee Higgins. Protect your franchise player first. Keeping Burrow upright should have been the #1 priority. You take a HOF o-lineman they are definitely more rare than good/great receivers.
Im sure the Cincy isn’t regretting taking Chase because Chase is a top 10 WR in his position. But man Swelle would have been huge for them he definitely could have protected Burrow and keep him from having some injuries
I don't think the Bengals staff could've schemed Sewell as an extra tight end like the Lions staff has. Burrow isn't a jumbo style QB; he excels in five man protections. Putting Sewell into the backfield so he can motion into having sometimes three tackles on one side of the ball is a huge maximization of his abilities that simply doesn't mesh with other Bengals' players maximizations. Basically the tier list/power ranking would go: 1. Sewell on the Lions 2. Chase on the Bengals 3. Chase on the Lions 4. Sewell on the Bengals The teams made the correct choices imho
This question is ridiculous, they play different positions, they are both elite. They can't be compared. It just depends on what you needed at the time. Also, I guarantee no one besides you ever though Chase played like Mike Evans. Never did I think the reason Chase was so unstoppable was because of his height. Even on the play you compare him to Mike Evans, Ramsey clearly has an issue keeping up with Chase's speed. You said you believe in wide receivers over the trenches and that's fine. The Lions of old would definitely agree with that. Trenches is definitely my call, its not flashy. But it helps you out in every aspect of the game, running, passing, and special teams, and that's on both sides of the ball.
receivers are overrated, you cant even hit them anymore and are barely allowed to defend them, they have easy jobs so you can find a guy in 5-6 round that can do what a 1rst round receiver can do. smart teams like the steeler already treat WRs the same way most team treat running backs. tackles a good as sewll that stay healthy are more valuable than any WR.
Look I'm a lions fan so obviously I like Sewell. I think Chase is a fantastic player and I love the connection he and Burrow has, but Sewell is frankly part of the reason Goff has a career again. The meme of Burrow being laid out on the ground trying to throw to Chase vs throwing to anyone from behind Sewell is true
@@thecharmcityplayerbrandona8827 He has had 4 injuries. One in 2020, and 2 in the preseason that were non contact. The final injury was a contact injury off the right side against a former 1st rounder. Why are you so confident a better LT starting ‘21 alters his injury history?
@@MrApplesAndOranges12 maybe because he will actually protect him. And offensive line is just as important than getting weapons because it doesn’t matter how much talent you have on the offense. If your quarterback doesn’t have time he’s gonna get killed.
as a bengals fan, this is truth! the bengals wouldn't regret picking either player, but the trenches matter more than the weapons. the offensive line opens up both the pass game and the run game. also, burrow wouldn't injured as often if sewell was on his team.
I'll take Sewell. One of the reasons that Burrow can't stop calling 911 and off the field is because of his protection. I'm arguing with fellow Lions fans who think we should have kept Josh Reynolds (WR) whom you don't know about. All because our QB who is a statue rarely is out or hurt and has the time he needs.
@@brokentubing cant stop? He went to back to back AFCCs. (He does take way too many hits) Im not mad we got Chase, but if Burrow's career ends short, not taking Sewell will become a massive tragedy.
Imo Sewell is a modern day version of Willie Roaf. Best run blocker in the league (most likely correct me if I’m wrong) and although he isn’t the best pass blocker, he’s still reliable at it.
as a bengals fan, I would say chase is a better WR than Sewell is as an offensive lineman, but I would probably rather have sewell because o-line is more important than wide receivers imo. the game starts in the trenches. not to mention, I feel like getting elite offensive linemen like sewell is harder to come by than finding an elite wide receiver. either way, I feel like I would be happy with either player but considering the bengals have slowly improved their offensive line each season, I am more happier that chase is on my team.
It works more for the Lions as they are a run heavy play action team and they scheme a lot of runs behind him. I don't think Sewell would be regarded as highly as he is if he was on the Bengals.
I think Jamar bc chase along with joe burrow completely changed the bengals explosive play threat, In 2020 the bengals had a below average big play threat in 2021 they had the best mostly bc of chase
Truth is, if the Bengals could go back in time… they would take Ja’marr 100/100 times. It was and is still the correct move for them. The argument of who won who lost is moot, because everyone on either side would want the exact same thing to happen if we could go back to ‘21.
I would say the same, if Chase didn't play with Burrow in college. I think that the connection they had makes it worth it, only for the Bengals. Anyone else would take Sewell.
Everyone os insane in these comments, your ol is only as good as your weakest link, and we'd still have had weak links the last couple years and no elite elite weapons
The league has spoken whose more valuable Right Tackes P.Sewell 28/yr J.Taylor 20mill/yr L.Johnson 20mill/yr M.Onwenu 19mill/yr Wr's J.Jefferson 35mill/yr A.J. Brown 32mill/yr A.Ra St.Brown 30mill/yr Tyreek Hill 30mill/yr
That's because there's not as many elite OL out there to keep resetting the market so the top paid guys lag behind. WR's also are more noticable and make their team more money then an OL in ticket snd jersey sales
I think the question should be who is better between Chase and Amon Ra? After three seasons, their stats are pretty similar. Amon Ra was a steal in the 2021 draft. (I'm not a Lions fan.)
Sewell is an ELITE WR AND TACKLE. There’s really no competition
100% completion percentage
This is the correct answer to the question
Sewell is a generational talent and on pace to make the Hall of Fame and he's still only 23.
So is chase arguably?
@BENgalFan1369 maybe. WRs are very difficult to get into the HOF you have to really stand out in your generation in a lot of cases. Chase is definitely a very good receiver and has a shot but Sewell already has more All-Pro selections.
The choice was perfect for both teams. The Lions didn't need a big-time receiver at that point and the Bengals needed a weapon for JB. Sewell, though, is more of a "cornerstone" player for a rebuilding team in my opinion. He set a tone of toughness for the Lions right away
Disagree, burrow needed Sewell more than chase and lions did need a wr1 as they picked up st.brown in that same draft and he's basically been their top wr since. I wouldn't take chase over st brown and definitely wouldn't take him over Sewell. Not even close imo
@@dereckdunckelDisagree, Pitts was also mocked in that 5th spot, but has failed to do much. He wasn’t put in the right place. Chase’s potential is better on the bengals than on the lions. Same as Sewell, bengals needed 5 new starters on that line. Even someone as good as Sewell could not single-handedly raise that line. Chase was the clear option by a long shot, not even close
@bd8037 couldn't disagree more, they clearly needed offensive line then and it was obvious, he's even had major injury since. St brown has been arguably just as good and he was available in the 4th. They clearly should have got Sewell then went after a wr. You build championship teams through the trenches then pick up playmaker after. If you find a franchise qb, then priority 1,2,and 3 is protecting him at all costs
Spot on
Can't go wrong with either but i'd take Sewell
Nope. The idea of trading Sewell for Chase as a lions fan is laughable
Well.... Sewell helps both the passing AND run game and keeps the qb upright
Sometimes he even catches passes
Quick dumpoffs keep QBs upright
Good wrs make a bigger impact on the passing game. The fact that one player impacts both doesn't make them better if the overall impact is still less.
@@jacksonklark6119 you forget an elite tackle is the difference when u face elite pass rushes, sewell shuts top edge rushers down and allows you to do anything
I have news for you about high end wr1s impact on resource allocation buddy
I’ll take Sewel, born to be a OL leader. He makes everyone around him better and is a hall of fame talent already.
Burrow stays hurt Goff doesn't and Goff is a statue. Sewell.
That narrative is so dumb
@@lilmonke2190 Everything is dumb to an undeveloped brain 🧠
@@lilmonke2190not really its spot on.
Bengals could have 10 different young recievers and Burrow wouldnt miss a beat.
If he had a Lions like OL he'd have a superbowl by now.
Stafford had Calvin Johnson but no oline and no running game Ive seen it for myself after Lions drafting WR for years.
Once we got that oline shit changed real quick.
@@lilmonke2190elite wide receivers grow on trees in today’s day and age; elite offensive linemen don’t.
As a lions fan, i wouldnt trade for Sewell for Chase and Higgins!!!!! Sewell will go down as one of the best tackles to every play
If the Bengals took Sewell in 2021, I believe they would have not made the Super Bowl in 2021. Chase really was instrumental to that season.
I agree but I now realize the other side of it with a few points. When you look at scarcity while there still aren't a lot of elite wr1s there are less tackles around the level of Sewell and those top guys than wrs around the level of Chase and those top guys. And when you look at longevity generally those top tackles have a longer shelf life than top receivers if we average it out, something I've noticed as I watch the league. That being said on the other side the immediate impact of Chase was more instrumental and the value that kind of guy brings is giving that true 1 weapon for a qb to rely on as well as opening up the other pieces of the offense for more opportunity because of his prescence which includes the run game. Offensive linemen and tackles more so than interior guys have a huge impact still in the run game and pass pro but naturally it is less off of their singular presence not quite having as much impact because the rest of the unit matters more in those reactive positions like secondaries and offensive line compared to receivers and pass rushers just simply because of weak link theory. Tackles and corners still add the idea of being able to slide coverage or protection away from them it's just big weaknesses in the unit kill things more than a bad number 3 receiver with a high drop rate for example would.
Safe to say both teams are happy with who they got imo
I don't think the question is between Chase or Sewell, they play different positions. I think the better question is, who is better, Chase or the WR the Lions picked in the 4th round in 2021.
chase bro cmon and ima lions fan, X wrs are more impactful
that is also a question worth asking but I would say chase
Sewell might have made a difference with all of Burrows injuries. What if he take less hits and sacks giving Burrow time to make avg receivers good. Also remember he still would have Tee Higgins. Protect your franchise player first. Keeping Burrow upright should have been the #1 priority. You take a HOF o-lineman they are definitely more rare than good/great receivers.
Chase is definitely top 5
I would take Sewell because im a lions fan, and i believe its easier to get a elite WR than a elite OT
Im sure the Cincy isn’t regretting taking Chase because Chase is a top 10 WR in his position.
But man Swelle would have been huge for them he definitely could have protected Burrow and keep him from having some injuries
I don't think the Bengals staff could've schemed Sewell as an extra tight end like the Lions staff has. Burrow isn't a jumbo style QB; he excels in five man protections. Putting Sewell into the backfield so he can motion into having sometimes three tackles on one side of the ball is a huge maximization of his abilities that simply doesn't mesh with other Bengals' players maximizations.
Basically the tier list/power ranking would go:
1. Sewell on the Lions
2. Chase on the Bengals
3. Chase on the Lions
4. Sewell on the Bengals
The teams made the correct choices imho
This question is ridiculous, they play different positions, they are both elite. They can't be compared. It just depends on what you needed at the time. Also, I guarantee no one besides you ever though Chase played like Mike Evans. Never did I think the reason Chase was so unstoppable was because of his height. Even on the play you compare him to Mike Evans, Ramsey clearly has an issue keeping up with Chase's speed. You said you believe in wide receivers over the trenches and that's fine. The Lions of old would definitely agree with that. Trenches is definitely my call, its not flashy. But it helps you out in every aspect of the game, running, passing, and special teams, and that's on both sides of the ball.
Sewell next question!
Amarius mims
Either is a fine option. Not having both is what hurts their teams
Both great both on track to great careers
This is the dumbest debate ever
FRFR!🤣
Definitely Sewell. They already have Higgins and it’s easier to find an elite WR than an elite LT
receivers are overrated, you cant even hit them anymore and are barely allowed to defend them, they have easy jobs so you can find a guy in 5-6 round that can do what a 1rst round receiver can do. smart teams like the steeler already treat WRs the same way most team treat running backs. tackles a good as sewll that stay healthy are more valuable than any WR.
disagree on the trade point, i think if Burrow okayed it they would atleast consider a trade for Sewell considering Tee can be a true #1 option.
Look I'm a lions fan so obviously I like Sewell. I think Chase is a fantastic player and I love the connection he and Burrow has, but Sewell is frankly part of the reason Goff has a career again. The meme of Burrow being laid out on the ground trying to throw to Chase vs throwing to anyone from behind Sewell is true
And yet, it was certainly the correct pick.
Sewell 100%
i watched the lions try to get skill position first for decades and it didn’t work. trenches out did work so…
I’m taking Sewell because the most important thing for a quarterback to have is a strong offensive line before putting weapons around him.
Disagree, and the Bengals are proof lmao.
@@MrApplesAndOranges12 and Joe Burrow has yet to stay healthy for a full season.
@@thecharmcityplayerbrandona8827 He has had 4 injuries. One in 2020, and 2 in the preseason that were non contact. The final injury was a contact injury off the right side against a former 1st rounder. Why are you so confident a better LT starting ‘21 alters his injury history?
@@MrApplesAndOranges12 maybe because he will actually protect him. And offensive line is just as important than getting weapons because it doesn’t matter how much talent you have on the offense. If your quarterback doesn’t have time he’s gonna get killed.
as a bengals fan, this is truth! the bengals wouldn't regret picking either player, but the trenches matter more than the weapons. the offensive line opens up both the pass game and the run game. also, burrow wouldn't injured as often if sewell was on his team.
Jackson cant admit sewell is a better pick episode 22
These ppl crazy in the comments Jamar is betrer
Only because he is with Burrow, if the Bengals had any other QB, Sewell probably would be a better pick.
I'll take Sewell. One of the reasons that Burrow can't stop calling 911 and off the field is because of his protection. I'm arguing with fellow Lions fans who think we should have kept Josh Reynolds (WR) whom you don't know about. All because our QB who is a statue rarely is out or hurt and has the time he needs.
@@brokentubing cant stop? He went to back to back AFCCs. (He does take way too many hits) Im not mad we got Chase, but if Burrow's career ends short, not taking Sewell will become a massive tragedy.
Great WR are a dime a dozen.
Penei is a 23 year old walking gold jacket.
@@diamondrg3556 Burrow can beat the Chiefs is what's so bad about it
Sewell all day
Imo Sewell is a modern day version of Willie Roaf. Best run blocker in the league (most likely correct me if I’m wrong) and although he isn’t the best pass blocker, he’s still reliable at it.
as a bengals fan, I would say chase is a better WR than Sewell is as an offensive lineman, but I would probably rather have sewell because o-line is more important than wide receivers imo. the game starts in the trenches. not to mention, I feel like getting elite offensive linemen like sewell is harder to come by than finding an elite wide receiver. either way, I feel like I would be happy with either player but considering the bengals have slowly improved their offensive line each season, I am more happier that chase is on my team.
Sewell is the top of PFF and has more all pro selections in his position
It works more for the Lions as they are a run heavy play action team and they scheme a lot of runs behind him. I don't think Sewell would be regarded as highly as he is if he was on the Bengals.
I think Jamar bc chase along with joe burrow completely changed the bengals explosive play threat,
In 2020 the bengals had a below average big play threat in 2021 they had the best mostly bc of chase
Ja’Marr Chase
Truth is, if the Bengals could go back in time… they would take Ja’marr 100/100 times. It was and is still the correct move for them. The argument of who won who lost is moot, because everyone on either side would want the exact same thing to happen if we could go back to ‘21.
I think it’s hard to say Chase over Sewell, especially when you look at Burrows injuries.
I was pissed they took Chase over Sewell and Sewell was the right choice
Cascade effect of drafting Sewell made drafting Amon Ra a thing, and drafting Chase made Higgins probably leaving a thing.
Detroit won.
I would say the same, if Chase didn't play with Burrow in college. I think that the connection they had makes it worth it, only for the Bengals. Anyone else would take Sewell.
Until the lions make the Super Bowl Chase was the best pick cause both of them are getting Gold Jackets
Everyone os insane in these comments, your ol is only as good as your weakest link, and we'd still have had weak links the last couple years and no elite elite weapons
The league has spoken whose more valuable Right Tackes P.Sewell 28/yr J.Taylor 20mill/yr L.Johnson 20mill/yr M.Onwenu 19mill/yr
Wr's J.Jefferson 35mill/yr A.J. Brown 32mill/yr A.Ra St.Brown 30mill/yr Tyreek Hill 30mill/yr
That's because there's not as many elite OL out there to keep resetting the market so the top paid guys lag behind. WR's also are more noticable and make their team more money then an OL in ticket snd jersey sales
Bengals don’t make the superbowl without Chase, next question
Penei is the better pick so stop capping
Sewell 100%. Amon ra st brown is better than chase too
No st brown is more scheme depended Chase is a freak of nature and a big play threat
I think the question should be who is better between Chase and Amon Ra? After three seasons, their stats are pretty similar. Amon Ra was a steal in the 2021 draft. (I'm not a Lions fan.)
Hes not.
chase took his team to a Super Bowl yes ol is important but finding a generational talent in chase is better comments acting like this is a debate
Penei Sewell is a generational talent too mushbrain
I think Joe Burrow had more to do with the Bengals going to the Super Bowl than Chase.