I used a ventrax for snow removal in Canada. Amazing!!! It has a cab on it. No need for a guy on a shovel because it will fit on most commercial sidewalks
MY first was 420 onan Steiner in 1989, 2nd was a 430 Steiner in 1997, Kohler 24 repower to Kohler 30, sold to my son in 2016, replaced with Ventrac Kubota Diesel. I love them all and have done much personalization with attachments. You can't go wrong. Duals can be a problem in stressing the axles on uneven ground. I considered them, but spent time with the service department and was advised against them. No problem on dam banks vertically or on the hills of Northcentral Ohio. I've also spent time at the factory in Orrville. A quality operation. All attachments are shared. I also run a Kubota L4060 with grapple and other stuff. Great combo on significant acreage.
BEWARE... Swamps hardly ever freeze solid, too much organics cooking below. had a dozer get stuck in an area like that, took a couple days to get out and a $1300 wrecker bill.
Stan I’m a retired farmer from Canada 🇨🇦 I had three farms. We ran pretty much all John Deere equipment. I don’t want to start an argument what colour is best. Green paint the quality was decent but more importantly or dealer was amazing. We had two and four wheel drive tractors and trucks and even a ww2 Jeep. It’s been my experience even with some very large high horsepower machines with large ag tires once’s you once you burry that machine down to the belly you are stuck. Doesn’t matter the colour or if your in snow or mud. We ran a lot of echo hand held power products on out fruit farms too and the eco line really seemed to preformed welland hold up well with our employees and the our small engine shop ag and turf power service gave us awsome support
Easy, I just rented one and they go anywhere. I am buying one now after driving one for a few days using the rough cut attachment in a very rough terrain with lots of steep hills. On 8 tires it's a beast.
Putting a set of taller and wider tires with spacers putting them outside the fenders would do wonders in deep snow. Raised on a farm/ranch when needed we just jumped into the Case 2670 or versatile 935 nothing stood in your way. Going thru creeks, drifts that you would get lost in was a snap. Calving season I was blown away by what articulating tractors were capable of. That Ventrac just needs its belly up higher there is not enough flotation with the low profile tires. Better floatation with AG tread tires will make that ventrac a snow machine.
Stan.....dual wheels on the Ventrac are for slope mowing mainly. You actually get much better results in snow by taking the outside tires off & running it with only 4 tires!!!
william davidson it depends. If it has the ground clearance to sink the tires down, singles would be better. We can see it doesn't though. Duals work like a sno-cat, and float...but they're not aggressive enough (or have enough surface area like tracks) to bite well enough.
Ventrac is on the right track. What they need to do to make it something like what I'd buy is put much bigger wheels, like 16 inch. Put some 8 x 16" R1 or R2 tractor tires, and have a decent front loader and rear PTO to run a brushhog or tiller and you've got something. The Ferarri Cobram tractor is a better machine because of that. Ventrac makes the changes so that we can use our existing CAT 1 attachments and power them, plus a front loader we'll buy one. Until then it just a fancy lawn tractor.
I know with my RWD cars my snow tires are stepped down a width size for better snow/ice traction. I think that Ventrac would do better in the snow with the 4 tire setup than the 8 tire setup. I think the 8 tire/wheel setup is probably better suited for dirt, sand and/or mud. Of course your experience would know better than me and my spoiled paved road driving as*. Subscribed!
Hey Stan, you had a quote from your original Ventrac review saying you were putting the Ventrac in places where you couldn't 50 hp tractor and while i don't doubt that's true, we have a pair of 55 horse Mahindras (both 5500s) and my dad has put them in exactly some of the places that you are talking about, and we'veonly gotten it stuck once in those areas. we had a Woods BB 72 rated for 2 inches, and we have run over full grown pine trees that fell over. after that crapped out, we got a 720 and its rated for 3-4 inches and we do the same thing, and it does great. we put our mahindras through worse heck than you put your Ventrac through, my dad was once mowing through 8 foot tall grass next to a pond and got it stuck in 3 feet of mud. all we did was un-hook the mower, tow it away, hook the tractor up to a pick-up and started it up and towed it out, they are built to last i tell you.
Just a tip if your Gunna be in the snow u should take the dually wheeler because the more u cut through the snow to get to the terrain the better, with the dually it floats on the snow and has no traction.
Have you learned how to put the hydraulic speed to neutral and hold the SDLA lever with bungee cord to warn hydrologic fueled? Sounds like your hydro pumps were screening pissed cause they were still cold.....
Hey brother...really appreciate what your doing...most if not all these tools you have demonstrated on this channel has made my decision much easier when buying keep it up look forward to much more
The ventrac is a briliant machine. Machines suffer in Africa and our 4 Ventracs are starting to fall apart after 10 years and still start every morning and just work a 9 hour day without any stres.
Absolutely, it depends on the application however, I would want it to float on the snow just like Polaris has their tracks for there atv’s a plow with tracks would dominate on that machine in places with high snow volumes. I live in PA however, we use atv’s with regular tires for all our commercial sidewalks. It eliminates laborers that would otherwise use shovels.
There are... I'm sure these fit the Ventrac. They're work rated track (not leasure play track as on quad/utv/etc) info.soucy-track.com/heavyduty-track-systems-st-110
Who makes ventrac I heard at 1 time that it was part of torrel I plan on buying a machine zoom in as I locate a dealer close by I live here in Michigan
I'm thinking that there's a limit as to how many tires you can have pushing through the snow (in a one horse open sleigh). Too many tires and those tires are meeting lots of resistance to movement through the snow. And of course, turf tires aren't made for "off-roading" though deep snow. But if someone offered me that machine, I would accept it in less than a heartbeat. It would make lawn mowing and snow blowing FUN! Wouldn't rule out off-roading either.
Dang this looks like the studdliest thing I've seen since my Gravely walk-behind. I miss that SOB. When it was a pain, what a pain -- but you could do things nothing else could.
Saw you on the road the other night in inver grove heights, you had your new backdrag blade on. I think you should figure out some form of brake lights because it is kind of awkward driving behind when you can't see your brake lights or blinkers. Just a thought of mine, keep up the great videos! -Griffin
Hi dirt I’m a big fan I’m 14 years old and I wanan start my own lawcare business with a 31 in mower that I can tow with my Atv but my dad says that I need a 52 in mower and personally i don’t think that that’s smart because I can’t bring others equipment with me like a weed eater blower I had this designs for metal cart I was gonna make with mounts for weed wacker garbage can and blower I’m wondering what your opinion is on this
I liked to attachments and smaller footprint until I did the research and can get a John Deere 4 series for not much more and it will do a lot more and has more attachments. The used ventrac I saw had a $18,000 price tag with a push blade only and wasn't the diesel version.
Man, I love my Ventrac. Wish we were having the snow here in Boise ID. Just bought a snow blower for the Ventrac this last year and still haven't got to use the equipment yet. Glad to see that you were storing it outside. About to move, gives me hope in the new place for the Ventrac to be outside.
About to move into a rental and the HOAs. But going to cover the Ventrac with a canvas trap in the summer and winter months and just move it into the garage for the spring in fall(those are the time when it rains here).
And it works better if you just drive the tractor up on a block of wood or brick or something curb to and spin the wheel on or off that way the transmission doesn’t free spin while your putting the wheel on
Mr. Genedak, We are in nw arkansas and love your videos. I have a question, we are getting more into landscaping along with our mowing and weed control. How do you price your labor for building retaining walls?
Stan i got a 430 steiner with the same tires as ur ventrac. I got video to back that up. My 430 does better in deep snow like that without the duals on it. Experience my friend. Bless you too.
Steiner is better....My company mow's the reserviors in this area with it. 4 tires are better than eight in snow. Kinda like a car with skinny tires does better in snow
Ive seen a new ventrac being demo'd by the school here. The ventrac is a bit larger and the hydrauliic flip up deck ventrac has is way too heavy and its just longer than older simpler mower decks steiner makes. They are both great machines. Id take my steiner and trade for a ventrac sure. The steiner i got just wont quit and always gets it done for us so i have no need to shop for a ventrac. I cant say one is better than the other. Build quality is equal.
Hello Sir I would like to see you make a video about why so many mini skid steers are for sale at auctions and on E- Bay such as 4Vermeer, 1PlentyBoxers,3Ditchwitchs,2Toro Dingos
Have you ever tested a Z-Spray or a Permagreen Triumph? That would be really cool to see. They are pretty similar but the Z-Spray is a little more fancy.
Frank is old school kind people like Frank are hard to find his a hard working old school dude
His type is the best to employ
He's the best 👍
Luca Signorello
Very true
I was thinkin the same thing,reminds me of my Dad.
I used a ventrax for snow removal in Canada. Amazing!!! It has a cab on it. No need for a guy on a shovel because it will fit on most commercial sidewalks
I see Franky and think " this dude has seen it all" I'd trust him. Hell, I'd be happy to have my own Franky.
Everyone needs a Franky
MY first was 420 onan Steiner in 1989, 2nd was a 430 Steiner in 1997, Kohler 24 repower to Kohler 30, sold to my son in 2016, replaced with Ventrac Kubota Diesel. I love them all and have done much personalization with attachments. You can't go wrong. Duals can be a problem in stressing the axles on uneven ground. I considered them, but spent time with the service department and was advised against them. No problem on dam banks vertically or on the hills of Northcentral Ohio. I've also spent time at the factory in Orrville. A quality operation. All attachments are shared. I also run a Kubota L4060 with grapple and other stuff. Great combo on significant acreage.
I am a diesel mechanic and I have the milwaukee 1/2in 1400ft lbs impact and i absolutely love it...worth every penny spent
Good stuff 👍
BEWARE... Swamps hardly ever freeze solid, too much organics cooking below. had a dozer get stuck in an area like that, took a couple days to get out and a $1300 wrecker bill.
Thanks for sharing!
Stan I’m a retired farmer from Canada 🇨🇦 I had three farms. We ran pretty much all John Deere equipment. I don’t want to start an argument what colour is best. Green paint the quality was decent but more importantly or dealer was amazing. We had two and four wheel drive tractors and trucks and even a ww2 Jeep. It’s been my experience even with some very large high horsepower machines with large ag tires once’s you once you burry that machine down to the belly you are stuck. Doesn’t matter the colour or if your in snow or mud. We ran a lot of echo hand held power products on out fruit farms too and the eco line really seemed to preformed welland hold up well with our employees and the our small engine shop ag and turf power service gave us awsome support
Interesting. Thanks for sharing your experience! Will keep that in mind
I use air impacts on the farm to take things apart. I would love to get my hands on a good battery powered impact to use.
Fires it up when it 8 out revs it up all the way as soon as it’s started
Easy, I just rented one and they go anywhere. I am buying one now after driving one for a few days using the rough cut attachment in a very rough terrain with lots of steep hills. On 8 tires it's a beast.
Putting a set of taller and wider tires with spacers putting them outside the fenders would do wonders in deep snow. Raised on a farm/ranch when needed we just jumped into the Case 2670 or versatile 935 nothing stood in your way. Going thru creeks, drifts that you would get lost in was a snap. Calving season I was blown away by what articulating tractors were capable of. That Ventrac just needs its belly up higher there is not enough flotation with the low profile tires. Better floatation with AG tread tires will make that ventrac a snow machine.
Stan.....dual wheels on the Ventrac are for slope mowing mainly. You actually get much better results in snow by taking the outside tires off & running it with only 4 tires!!!
Might do better with 4 if he doesn't sink in. Duals might keep him from getting buried if the snow is really 3 ft deep.
william davidson it depends. If it has the ground clearance to sink the tires down, singles would be better. We can see it doesn't though. Duals work like a sno-cat, and float...but they're not aggressive enough (or have enough surface area like tracks) to bite well enough.
Thanks for explaining it more than I did
Thanks for sharing!
Yesssss
I live very close by where Ventrac is made. They seem like a pretty good piece of equipment.
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Paul George GO WORK THERE!!!
Same i live in wooster I took a tour of their factory
@@Tangolikebat6 hey the factory in Worcester mass or you saying some where else
no matter what the machine, if you bottom out on the frame, you're done.
Sounds like a crazy amazing tractor. Makes me want one.
Kinda is!
that same wrench saved me just the other day. 100 miles from home destroyed 3 tires on my trailer and that impact tore them rims off like nothing
Ventrac is on the right track. What they need to do to make it something like what I'd buy is put much bigger wheels, like 16 inch. Put some 8 x 16" R1 or R2 tractor tires, and have a decent front loader and rear PTO to run a brushhog or tiller and you've got something. The Ferarri Cobram tractor is a better machine because of that. Ventrac makes the changes so that we can use our existing CAT 1 attachments and power them, plus a front loader we'll buy one. Until then it just a fancy lawn tractor.
Frank should use snow chains. I wanted them in oak park,Illinois, because our car got stuck in the snow after leaving and entering the garage.
Brother Stan, help me out: you still liking the Ventrac? Should I buy the 4520 diesel? I need your opinion.
I know with my RWD cars my snow tires are stepped down a width size for better snow/ice traction. I think that Ventrac would do better in the snow with the 4 tire setup than the 8 tire setup. I think the 8 tire/wheel setup is probably better suited for dirt, sand and/or mud. Of course your experience would know better than me and my spoiled paved road driving as*. Subscribed!
I'm a Deere guy but would love try out one of those Ventracs.
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Hey Stan, you had a quote from your original Ventrac review saying you were putting the Ventrac in places where you couldn't 50 hp tractor and while i don't doubt that's true, we have a pair of 55 horse Mahindras (both 5500s) and my dad has put them in exactly some of the places that you are talking about, and we'veonly gotten it stuck once in those areas. we had a Woods BB 72 rated for 2 inches, and we have run over full grown pine trees that fell over. after that crapped out, we got a 720 and its rated for 3-4 inches and we do the same thing, and it does great. we put our mahindras through worse heck than you put your Ventrac through, my dad was once mowing through 8 foot tall grass next to a pond and got it stuck in 3 feet of mud. all we did was un-hook the mower, tow it away, hook the tractor up to a pick-up and started it up and towed it out, they are built to last i tell you.
Awesome stuff! Thanks for sharing!!
It did better then I thought. That dual setup is cool.
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Just a tip if your Gunna be in the snow u should take the dually wheeler because the more u cut through the snow to get to the terrain the better, with the dually it floats on the snow and has no traction.
Love my Ventrac 4500z (Kubota 32hp has) for native mowing and snow removal...!!
Gas .....NOT has....
Have you learned how to put the hydraulic speed to neutral and hold the SDLA lever with bungee cord to warn hydrologic fueled? Sounds like your hydro pumps were screening pissed cause they were still cold.....
Hey brother...really appreciate what your doing...most if not all these tools you have demonstrated on this channel has made my decision much easier when buying keep it up look forward to much more
Awesome, that's the goal! Thanks for watching Mike 👍
Ventrac is built by Farmers here in Ohio they are the same family that started stiener tractor these are some great tractors
Hey Stan , do you think these are worth the investent? And how much with all the attachments ?
The ventrac is a briliant machine. Machines suffer in Africa and our 4 Ventracs are starting to fall apart after 10 years and still start every morning and just work a 9 hour day without any stres.
I know this is an older video and unlikely to be seen but they offer a few engines. Which one are you testing?
Stan I agree with you that Franky is nuts
Pretty much 😅
They should make tracks for this unit
Upcavage Enterprises Landscaping omg yas
Absolutely, it depends on the application however, I would want it to float on the snow just like Polaris has their tracks for there atv’s a plow with tracks would dominate on that machine in places with high snow volumes. I live in PA however, we use atv’s with regular tires for all our commercial sidewalks. It eliminates laborers that would otherwise use shovels.
There are... I'm sure these fit the Ventrac. They're work rated track (not leasure play track as on quad/utv/etc)
info.soucy-track.com/heavyduty-track-systems-st-110
Thanks for the input!
......... The machine is an articulate steer.......... Explane how that would work
It will start
Yes it will start
Leave the hub on and chance stripping the threads???
What engine you guys running in the ventrac towing the loader and such with it? The diesel?
How much exactly would it cost to start a demolition company
Stanley, I can't believe how much you complain about the cold. Love your vids though
Can't stand it! But thanks 👍
17:43 You’re welcome
Samuel Desalvo your gaycome
My home State Michigan next time you go out in this neighborhood hit me up.
Who makes ventrac I heard at 1 time that it was part of torrel I plan on buying a machine zoom in as I locate a dealer close by I live here in Michigan
I'm thinking that there's a limit as to how many tires you can have pushing through the snow (in a one horse open sleigh). Too many tires and those tires are meeting lots of resistance to movement through the snow. And of course, turf tires aren't made for "off-roading" though deep snow. But if someone offered me that machine, I would accept it in less than a heartbeat. It would make lawn mowing and snow blowing FUN! Wouldn't rule out off-roading either.
Agreed. Thanks for sharing!
Dang this looks like the studdliest thing I've seen since my Gravely walk-behind. I miss that SOB. When it was a pain, what a pain -- but you could do things nothing else could.
if it's frozen he will make it Mybe!!!!
So why did you get rid of the Ventrac?
Saw you on the road the other night in inver grove heights, you had your new backdrag blade on. I think you should figure out some form of brake lights because it is kind of awkward driving behind when you can't see your brake lights or blinkers. Just a thought of mine, keep up the great videos!
-Griffin
Thanks for the info!
Hi dirt I’m a big fan
I’m 14 years old and I wanan start my own lawcare business with a 31 in mower that I can tow with my Atv but my dad says that I need a 52 in mower and personally i don’t think that that’s smart because I can’t bring others equipment with me like a weed eater blower I had this designs for metal cart I was gonna make with mounts for weed wacker garbage can and blower I’m wondering what your opinion is on this
Mighty Moe Excavating likes the ventrac! At least you will have a trail to walk the 🦊 fox. Thanks for the entertainment
Heck yeah 👍
Now? Do we want a new 4500 built before the buyout or AFTER ?.
TENWIDE,
.I like it all b.but the "road" speed. I know a way to get more, 25 /35 would save a Lot of Selma
This mini keyboard just don't work for me. I'jj be back eventually.
Where did the red painted piece of steel come from ? The paint seems to match the ventrac?
Those ventrac are badass great review stan!
Thank you 😀👍
I liked to attachments and smaller footprint until I did the research and can get a John Deere 4 series for not much more and it will do a lot more and has more attachments. The used ventrac I saw had a $18,000 price tag with a push blade only and wasn't the diesel version.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing that
I should do a video on my ventrac and everything that’s been wrong with it and how many weeks it has been down.
I believe I would have in the shop and ready to go.
that was a cool CAT loader with volvo logos lol
Jacobsen1450 yeah lol
VOLVO wheeled loader,,,not cat
kenny harris it’s called a joke
Eric Motyka lol,lmao,,gathered that
kenny harris ohh okay didn’t know
Would snow chains make a difference?
Anything but turf tires would
DAMMM 2 BEAUTIFUL FORD F 250s
Of course he will!!
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Frankly says relax right after going to Hollywood 😜😂
Lol!
Man, I love my Ventrac. Wish we were having the snow here in Boise ID. Just bought a snow blower for the Ventrac this last year and still haven't got to use the equipment yet. Glad to see that you were storing it outside. About to move, gives me hope in the new place for the Ventrac to be outside.
About to move into a rental and the HOAs. But going to cover the Ventrac with a canvas trap in the summer and winter months and just move it into the garage for the spring in fall(those are the time when it rains here).
You'd definitely use it here!
Those impacts are solid
can you pull a combine out of the ground?
Did Franky air down the tires before he went out there?
Hi
Don't think so Tim! Put some flowers and makup on it, maybe it will float ! !
And it works better if you just drive the tractor up on a block of wood or brick or something curb to and spin the wheel on or off that way the transmission doesn’t free spin while your putting the wheel on
Thanks for your input!
Hell yeah hes going to make it
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He will make it if he plays it right. Used them in mucky water in cricks in cat tails
Do you still have the Ventrac 4500y?
We think he will make it... as my mother always says, "Never bet against Franky!"
i need to find a reason to own one of these. Live in N.Michigan, ill find a reason :)
Im jealous ........throw Missouri down some of that snow , we got a under 2 inches last night :(
Wel now i can't wait to hear your thoughts on the Ebling plow.....these look like they would be great for commercial work.
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I was pushing poo outta my chicken coop with a 4 wheeler n plow for yrs till i got one of these, Omg what a great machine its been, powerful n solid
They are great machines. compact and powerful with excellent traction.
I want a ventrac!
Yes he will make it
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Yes he can make it through it
Ventrac is the best and nothing but quality that's for sure👊👊👍👍👍🤙🤙🤙🤙
Mr. Genedak,
We are in nw arkansas and love your videos. I have a question, we are getting more into landscaping along with our mowing and weed control. How do you price your labor for building retaining walls?
My father used to say, "Four wheel drive doesn't mean you won't get stuck, it means you'll get stuck worse."
Have you used the ventrac for one of your snow removal jobs?
Stan i got a 430 steiner with the same tires as ur ventrac. I got video to back that up. My 430 does better in deep snow like that without the duals on it. Experience my friend. Bless you too.
So you think a smaller heavier footprint in deep snow works better? Surly you jest!
Joe Blow its strange but in snow these ventracs do much better without the duals in snow.
Steiner is better....My company mow's the reserviors in this area with it. 4 tires are better than eight in snow. Kinda like a car with skinny tires does better in snow
Ive seen a new ventrac being demo'd by the school here. The ventrac is a bit larger and the hydrauliic flip up deck ventrac has is way too heavy and its just longer than older simpler mower decks steiner makes. They are both great machines. Id take my steiner and trade for a ventrac sure. The steiner i got just wont quit and always gets it done for us so i have no need to shop for a ventrac. I cant say one is better than the other. Build quality is equal.
steiner is replaced with vantracwith both companys working together on vantrac from kubota with the kubota gas powered and diesel
I like the Ventrac!
Absolutely
Hello Sir I would like to see you make a video about why so many mini skid steers are for sale at auctions and on E- Bay such as 4Vermeer, 1PlentyBoxers,3Ditchwitchs,2Toro Dingos
The only thing I don't like about the vent track bush hog deck is the bolt Shear off way too easy if you hit something with a blade
Yes it can it is the best unit u can buy
Yes is my guess
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Hey y’all remember to like his videos too
yes he will make it
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Yes
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Stanley is it gas or diesel.
Say you went to michigan to get a rear drag plow? Muskegon by chance? I bet!?
Have you ever tested a Z-Spray or a Permagreen Triumph? That would be really cool to see. They are pretty similar but the Z-Spray is a little more fancy.
I seen a kubota utv pull a jd 410 up a 25° grade it might have been steeper
I'll use air in the shop. But in the field yea I'll take portable battery
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Wow, 20-30 thou. machine and equipment , and it does amazing things, who know!!
I think he’s gonna make it through
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never beat vantrac with the reliable kubota gas and diesel powered engine units
You ain't stuck till you stop movin!
Remove the duels And turn it back And forth as you go And you would go no problem.
An also don't forget MT'S in Bobcat's thanks, an I understand that one a person gets bigger business they need bigger machines .