It's better now. We used to kill the strange ones and if the soul stayed they would get baby bones. Now we give them demon hunting tasks to earn a real name. Demons don't eat bones.
From what I've read, which I'd like to get personal accounts of, laying down makes it harder. Our contemporary methods add complications and time; in turn offset by the presence of personnel. Methods used should be by choice - meaningful choice is a companion of useful information.
@@oldrabbit8290 that sounds really cool! im also wondering, if it truly does not take any new souls, is it a new being? is that how new souls are made?
@@oldrabbit8290 would anyone know though? the soul's history would be lost with the effigy/name, at least until the person dies and the soul can speak it's true name again.
@@MisterCynic18 it's mostly just wishful thinking, but even if the kid dies before he can do anything noteworthy, his family still has the effigy with the noble soul bounded inside - and their descendants will always have a chance to inherit it.. The family in question may be lowborn commoner, and then suddenly they have a king soul in their bloodline! It's huge! The effigy will become the single most important treasure of the entire clan, but it could also be their doom: rich people may try to marry them to have a chance of inheriting that soul, others may try to steal, or kill them to get the effigy. The most impressive soul will also be the bloodiest one, with so many people who have died just to get a hand on that ..
I just came here now by chance I spent a long time trying to discover on where of our world this religion took place, and then I noticed the channel name and realising that it was an creativity work good job, you fooled me and now I'm in love with this :v
imagine the tremendous power the people who hear the names of the souls would be. Like if the only people formed a cabal, they could, for example gain extra power by telling the village that the soul of a great hero has chosen to be born from their womb.
I think there would be too many issues with inconsistencies if they lied about which soul was born into a new child. Like the effigy that the hero's soul actually inhabits would still be "full" with a soul in it, instead of empty, and if people tried to put a new soul into it they wouldn't be able to/it would cause problems. Plus I imagine that effigies with souls are treated with special respect compared to empty effigies, so lying about which one is empty and which one is full would mean a effigy with a soul in it is treated as though it's empty, which would be disrespectful. And disrespecting an item of power and the soul within is the perfect way to get horribly cursed. Plus literally anyone who can hear the soul whispers who's not in on it could out their deception. I feel like that might happen on rare occasion with a particularly corrupt and deceptive group of soul-whisperers, but it's not consistent enough to be a source of institutional power in my opinion.
Maybe it's just normal for the people in this culture, but the effigy room seems unsettling. Maybe even more so than the skeletons. I mean, imagine being in that room in the dark, with those wooden statues just staring at you, and wholeheartedly believing there are souls in them just sitting there. To me it would feel like they are 'trapped' in the effigies, but I assume that's not how the people of this culture conceptualize it. Also, how do you think a child with a soul that isn't from the family is seen differently?
i think that the souls themselves have names, different from the ones given to their first incarnation, and that is the name they wisper when they go into the wooden statues, i think that would explaing why there are few people with simple names
I think the room could be a great comfort for a child: your family members who died aren’t gone. They’re right here! Watching over you and protecting you.
iirc, some West African vodun traditions keep around their ancestors as idols in much the same way. some Buddhist ones also keep a relative's ashes in their home for a set time after cremation
I love it as usual. The question begs, though, what happens if a bone in your super snazzy bone outfit breaks? Do you simply replace it? Do more bones mean more protection? Is there a taboo with mixing and matching bones from different people? Hmm 🤔
Can’t believe it, one of the first! Question: this sounds like it might fit in quite well with the Breath-World of yours, maybe in the canyons. Might it go there, or would this be an entirely new world?
@@WorldbuildingNotes well, these metaphysics don't need to be real, they can just be what people believe in. Leaving it uncertain can make it much more interesting!
Great stuff. But I wonder about those 'rogue souls'. Wouldn't they start staying in their new households after death if they have spare wooden-figures(kinda unsure about how to spell effegy). So they would start whispering their simple names and over the generations more and more "incidents" would pile up causing souls to be shuffeled eventually leaving only a few "original" souls with their elaborate names while everyone else would have a simple name even after incarnating for multiple times already? Or would there be a system in place to give such souls a new name after incarnating for the second time in a specific household to solve the dilemma?
i think that their simple name wouldn't be their true name, yeah? they give them simple names because they don't know the name of the soul. so when it dies, it would probably use its true name?
@Ziril I was thinking the same thing, and that a person with an unknown soul would be known only by a simple name in life, and after they died and the others learned their true name they would be remembered with that name, instead: possibly as “☌⌂꡴µ꜐ Snow, _first of his name”_
Maybe they could something similar to the Inca and have a living person ‘manage’ any of the dead persons property. Or maybe this culture has no concept of personal property and everything is owned communally.
Dylan Chouinard It’s already established that the tombs are communal so it’s quite possible. That would also lead to less infighting over resources surrounding the transfer from one life to the next
i love this concept, its super cool!! and that picture from near the end representing childbirth is perhaps the best thing ive seen all lockdown hahahahah
This is pretty metal, and glorious, Definitely using or adapting this idea because it's WAY too good to pass up. (more specifically wearing the bones of your past lives part)
I imagine a kinship system on the volcano is quite a wild one. Also I can imagine a tale exists of witch or a monster coming to steal the bones of the family, maybe as vengeance, maybe to steal their power or even soul.
I REALLY want to hear you talk more about this. also I feel there's a mechanism of inter clan unity for this system. a clan who has had their statues burned is likely in dire straits; one who has children past their named statues is one which might be on the upswing; thus weaker clan's members might be absorbed into the stronger one by being "Oh yes, that child must be X, of our lineage; giving the child a NAME name, & shielding the weaker clan members. could even see clans which have run out of effigies paying weaker clans to destroy their statues so their new child has access to bones and protection rather than having to deal with a nameless child
I have a few questions that might be interesting to think about when expanding this idea: 1. Can the souls inhabiting the effigies communicate with the living/say anything other than their name? Can only shamans or other spiritual leaders do this? If not, have families developed a kind of code to communicate (maybe like Morse code with saying the name fast or slow instead of dots and dashes)? 2. Do souls entering a new body retain their memories? If so, is anything lost (either from corpse to effigy, effigy to baby, or both)? Would their be toddlers with the mannerisms of someone centuries old? Or would it be only raw knowledge that’s transitioned? 3. What would happen if someone violated the no-stone-effigy rule? Would it simply not work? Or was there a figure in this people’s history that put their soul in a stone statue in a grab at immortality? 4. How does this culture view abortion? Presumably a fetus is just bodies not inhabited by a soul, but if Grandma’s effigy is seriously damaged, would a pregnancy be forced to continue even if it risks the mother, just to make sure that that ancestor doesn’t fly away? 5. How does this culture view gender? Does a soul stay strictly in male or female bodies? Or can they switch and swap? If the latter, and they retain their memories/personality, would there be a transition phase when, for example, your mans man of an uncle is reborn as your baby sister? Would said uncle be raised male? Would a culture with concrete evidence of the soul and reincarnation like this even have a concept of gender? 6. When a person with an unknown name dies, would there be an attempt to find where they came from? Like when such a person’s soul enters their effigy everyone in the village comes together to attempt to identify them by the name they whisper?
this is only what i think but: 1. if the souls are "awake" inside the wooden statues then someone probably tried something like this and maybe it worked, but the fact that the souls only say their names makes me think that they are in a state of stasis or something similar to sleeping.
SEBASTIAN LARA LILLO Ooooh, that’s a good point. Maybe there are certain Samhain-esque holidays when the dead wake up for a bit and catch up with their families. Or maybe they do something like in Shinto where they have to make some kind of loud noise to temporarily ‘wake up’ the spirit.
@@dylanchouinard6141 i would personally prefer the samhain-esque version since we have yet to know any of the holidays this culture has, altough if the shinto option was true do you think they would have rules about when is acceptable to wake up the spirit or can they just chat on a daily basis?
SEBASTIAN LARA LILLO I would assume so. They would probably only be consulted during a severe emergency that even the wisest among the living cannot solve. Though, to connect it back to Shintoism, would the ancestors be revered as deities, invoked not just for advise, but to effect the natural world?
3. in the video at 0:30 she says that a stone statue wouldn't work, so is very probable that the soul can only inhabit biological materials 4.i think that would depend on wherever or not it's possible for a soul to transfer from one statue to another
Well, that just means that if your mother was a good one, this is your chance to return the favor she did for you in raising you well. If she raised you poorly, you have an opportunity to show her how it should be done. Honestly I don't think it would be awkward at all - No less awkward than, say, raising a child that you/your wife didn't give birth to, which is something that many normal and reasonable people choose to do and enjoy doing. In both cases, it's certainly a different dynamic than what's typical, but it's just a quirk of the world you learn to accept, either immediately or in time.
@@MisterCynic18 That's a very good point, but there's one difference here. When my parents, for example, gave me the name John, after my uncle, grandfather, great grandfather, great great grandfather, and so on, all they were giving me was the name. And that was their choice. Here, it means something more. You're not just given the name, the name is *literally yours*. Your parents don't even get to choose it, unless you start off nameless. Not only that, you don't just get the name from it - You get the *history* of that name. You basically get to lay claim to all your past lives, as different incarnations of yourself. Two things I'm wondering now that I've thought about this more - One, I think it would be interesting if a culture not only had this tradition, but also, each person eventually remembered their past lives as they grew up. Two... Where did the first names come from, you think? What were they like? How many of them have survived? Do you think anyone has ever deliberately destroyed the effigy of a name? Can you have estranged souls inhabit effigies and learn a new name that way? There's so much going on here, this is a really cool idea.
I worry about how much pressure it would be to live up to your name, especially if you yourself are so much unlike your past incarnations. *cough*AvatarKora*cough* This also brings up an issue of bearing the guilt of past wrongdoers. One of the things about reincarnation is that nobody knows your past lives: you could have been anybody before since we all lose our memories. If everyone knows who’s soul you’ve got and yours was one that committed some great crime in the recent past, there’s no way the rest of the village is going to let you forget it. With that stigma you’d never get treated normally, and you’d probably internalize that you are a bad person without even having done anything. I guess this isn’t that different from IRL, where we stigmatize the whole families for one criminal, but it’d be stronger and more defined because you are _literally_ that person.
If the bones survive the house fire, but the soul is lost, what happens to the bones? Maybe it is kept, and the soul on the new body is drawn to it? Also, this setting is perfect for a story of a soul of royal/powerfull lineage losing itself, and slowly making its way back to the rightfull power
gd, i LOVE this concept. cant help but think tho - imagine how utterly devastating it would be in a culture like this, to have your home burn (like if theres a war and someone came thru and pillaged ur village while u were out hunting for a couple days?) all your ancestors and family just, WHOOSH, gone just like that
I feel like it would not be uncommon for most of their effigies to be unoccupied, with the souls currently inhabiting living people. a family who's ancestors are all still in effigies would probably already be in a pretty bad spot. come to think of it, the threat of losing ancestors might be an added reason to keep having kids. though on the other hand, having more kids than you have effigies would suck for the "extra" kids
The babies that are given simples names perhaps could be seen as soulless and suffer rejection from the community. The spiritual leaders or oracles that are capable of hearing the whispers could, in fact, use their "auditory power" to determine if a child is a bastard son or something if no spirit stopped whispering.
I like the idea that the people with these "unknown souls" are treated very well in their old age and when they die they don't get a effigy, but instead get a big party where they are honored, but through out the party the people also honor a lost soul from their family speaking their name often and loudly in hopes that the "unknown soul" that was with them with send the lost soul home if it sees them. Maybe they also have a little communal place in town where names of unknown souls are listed with notes "arrived as Napolean, was renamed meadow. Was mischievous as a child but grew to be reliable and brave" this was "unknown souls" can be watched to an extent so if they reappear in the village they may be recognized
ok I think that with each incarnation of the new soul, the name would slowly change into something unique, therefor makeing the new soul into an official member of the community. How long this takes depends on the soul.
Now I wonder how bone affecting Diseases are seen. And do they belive that people with schitzophrenia have two or more souls in their body? And if there are twins born, are they seen as one soul inhabiting two bodies? And is the size of the statue important? Could one hold more than one soul if it is big enough? There could be new cultures with communal soul vessels. And could there also be other kinds of spirits that may inhabit a body if there are no souls nearby? It would be interesting if souls and spirits would also affect the appearance/physiology. Do they believe that other animals have souls? They might place little statues of the animals they hunt in the forests, to ensure that their souls will be reborn as well. Or they might also have soul vessels for pets. And if they built on the ruins of the soulchambers of some ancient civilisation, they might get those ancient souls in their population (driven insane by the isolation?) And if there is only a limited number of souls there could be some sort of apocalyptic illness if there are more people born than there are souls. The Soulless may rise!
Clearly, these people would be seen as wise and storied persons, or perhaps even powerful individuals that will be a force to be reckoned with. You could have all *sorts* of crazy drama from that.
@Chandini Writes Man, I just realized... You could really be boned if you aren't born with enough bones. On an only vaguely more serious note, "boned" would have a very different connotation in this culture.
I think I'm going to take this and have a village use this in my d&d world were Nerul is the god of death and taking souls for himself to gain power and this would be a good way to protect souls and hide from death
What if the "babies whose names aren't known" are always given the same generic name (let's say John Doe). As they grow up they are told their name isn't their real name, and instead they must "make a name for themselves" through some grandiose feat. As such, the birth of a nameless baby is considered a prelude for greatness. The tribe has many stories about mighty warriors or great leaders that started their lives as simple John Does.
It would be interesting to see how death and old age is treated in this culture. Perhaps when people grow old, and there is a young couple, they commit suicide in order to get into a young body faster. And those who choose to remain living for as long as possible would be seen as martyrs as they live in a disabled state in order to preserve and spread knowledge.
The first half was pretty cool, but the concept of wearing the literal bones of your past lives for protection is absolutely amazing
Nipah nipah ni!!! Sorry, could not resist it.
You will be wearing a lot of skeletons then
2:28 even the excruciating pain of childbirth can’t bring you down when you’re rockin’ a super snazzy bone outfit. lol
Hell yeah XD
That must be the funniest illustration of "giving birth" known to humanity.
It looks like the Egyptian hieroglyph B2
I feel terrible for the stranger soul babies who grow up with no bones!
hdshavghdsa oh god i misunderstood this as like.... like the babies themselves have no bones in their bodies D:
@@junolee8826 oml
poor bastard children named snow
It's better now. We used to kill the strange ones and if the soul stayed they would get baby bones.
Now we give them demon hunting tasks to earn a real name. Demons don't eat bones.
I reckon it’d be freeing almost
I love how "I'm going to destroy your bones" is probably a more common threat in that world, but also a much more offensive one
That is an interesting depiction of birth
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That picture caught me off guard! Ewa is officially crazy... the right kind of crazy.
@@hiraunia Amazing Emoji!!!😊. So cute.
From what I've read, which I'd like to get personal accounts of, laying down makes it harder.
Our contemporary methods add complications and time; in turn offset by the presence of personnel.
Methods used should be by choice - meaningful choice is a companion of useful information.
That is the happiest mother I've ever seen giving birth XD
and baby too
@@brancaleone8895 The baby made me laugh yeah lol.
Are people mistrusting of a new born who didn’t take a known soul?
seems at the very least not having ancestor bones makes them pretty disadvantaged
yeah, but then there are a few chances that the wandering soul may come from a hero or king of old, and the kid may be destined for greatness.
@@oldrabbit8290 that sounds really cool! im also wondering, if it truly does not take any new souls, is it a new being? is that how new souls are made?
@@oldrabbit8290 would anyone know though? the soul's history would be lost with the effigy/name, at least until the person dies and the soul can speak it's true name again.
@@MisterCynic18 it's mostly just wishful thinking, but even if the kid dies before he can do anything noteworthy, his family still has the effigy with the noble soul bounded inside - and their descendants will always have a chance to inherit it..
The family in question may be lowborn commoner, and then suddenly they have a king soul in their bloodline! It's huge! The effigy will become the single most important treasure of the entire clan, but it could also be their doom: rich people may try to marry them to have a chance of inheriting that soul, others may try to steal, or kill them to get the effigy. The most impressive soul will also be the bloodiest one, with so many people who have died just to get a hand on that ..
I just came here now by chance
I spent a long time trying to discover on where of our world this religion took place, and then I noticed the channel name and realising that it was an creativity work
good job, you fooled me and now I'm in love with this :v
imagine the tremendous power the people who hear the names of the souls would be.
Like if the only people formed a cabal, they could, for example gain extra power by telling the village that the soul of a great hero has chosen to be born from their womb.
JD Fullerton Might be difficult if the soul actually did come along, though...
I think there would be too many issues with inconsistencies if they lied about which soul was born into a new child. Like the effigy that the hero's soul actually inhabits would still be "full" with a soul in it, instead of empty, and if people tried to put a new soul into it they wouldn't be able to/it would cause problems. Plus I imagine that effigies with souls are treated with special respect compared to empty effigies, so lying about which one is empty and which one is full would mean a effigy with a soul in it is treated as though it's empty, which would be disrespectful. And disrespecting an item of power and the soul within is the perfect way to get horribly cursed.
Plus literally anyone who can hear the soul whispers who's not in on it could out their deception. I feel like that might happen on rare occasion with a particularly corrupt and deceptive group of soul-whisperers, but it's not consistent enough to be a source of institutional power in my opinion.
2:28 I actually laughed out loud with the last drawing. it is excellent
Maybe it's just normal for the people in this culture, but the effigy room seems unsettling. Maybe even more so than the skeletons. I mean, imagine being in that room in the dark, with those wooden statues just staring at you, and wholeheartedly believing there are souls in them just sitting there. To me it would feel like they are 'trapped' in the effigies, but I assume that's not how the people of this culture conceptualize it. Also, how do you think a child with a soul that isn't from the family is seen differently?
i think that the souls themselves have names, different from the ones given to their first incarnation, and that is the name they wisper when they go into the wooden statues, i think that would explaing why there are few people with simple names
I think the room could be a great comfort for a child: your family members who died aren’t gone. They’re right here! Watching over you and protecting you.
Dylan Chouinard always watching ⌾⌢⌾
iirc, some West African vodun traditions keep around their ancestors as idols in much the same way. some Buddhist ones also keep a relative's ashes in their home for a set time after cremation
I guess they would be view as temporary living there instead of trapped in this culture.
This has got to be my favourite conculture on this channel!! Amazing!!
the silliness of that last image just killed me
Congrats Ewa on hitting a million views! 🎉🎉🎉
I love this. I’m working on my own soul ideas right now and this is some great inspiration!
This is a really interesting idea! In how the reincarnation works and the use of bones is really creative~
That is impressive and kinda creepy.
I'd like to know your opinion on floating islands, absolutely love your ideas
The next video will be about floating islands.
@@WorldbuildingNotes OMG just in time! I absolutely love your perspective and creativity
whooo floating islands hype
I love it as usual. The question begs, though, what happens if a bone in your super snazzy bone outfit breaks? Do you simply replace it? Do more bones mean more protection? Is there a taboo with mixing and matching bones from different people? Hmm 🤔
I’m assuming that after enough generations then you won’t really have to worry about breaking the bones cause you’d have enough to spare.
Can’t believe it, one of the first!
Question: this sounds like it might fit in quite well with the Breath-World of yours, maybe in the canyons. Might it go there, or would this be an entirely new world?
Probably an entirely new one.
@@WorldbuildingNotes will we see more of this world?
I don't know, but there would be too much metaphysics to build if I decided to expand on it.
@@WorldbuildingNotes well, these metaphysics don't need to be real, they can just be what people believe in. Leaving it uncertain can make it much more interesting!
i love how creative your ideas are
Interesting concept to think about is the prestige that comes with having the most bones/known past lives
Great stuff. But I wonder about those 'rogue souls'. Wouldn't they start staying in their new households after death if they have spare wooden-figures(kinda unsure about how to spell effegy). So they would start whispering their simple names and over the generations more and more "incidents" would pile up causing souls to be shuffeled eventually leaving only a few "original" souls with their elaborate names while everyone else would have a simple name even after incarnating for multiple times already? Or would there be a system in place to give such souls a new name after incarnating for the second time in a specific household to solve the dilemma?
i think that their simple name wouldn't be their true name, yeah? they give them simple names because they don't know the name of the soul. so when it dies, it would probably use its true name?
@@ziril3972 but is it its own, entirely new soul? one that wonders away/to it?
@Ziril I was thinking the same thing, and that a person with an unknown soul would be known only by a simple name in life, and after they died and the others learned their true name they would be remembered with that name, instead: possibly as “☌⌂꡴µ꜐ Snow, _first of his name”_
@@AnkhAnanku But do they have a "true" name? From how I understood it, the souls have the names people give them during their previous live.
No, souls do have true names. That's the names they speak.
This was absolutely awesome. Thank you for this.
I do love the way your mind works
so how would inheritance work?
the easy solution would be to store the stuff, untill the person is reborn, but then that would be inefficient.
Maybe they could something similar to the Inca and have a living person ‘manage’ any of the dead persons property. Or maybe this culture has no concept of personal property and everything is owned communally.
Dylan Chouinard It’s already established that the tombs are communal so it’s quite possible. That would also lead to less infighting over resources surrounding the transfer from one life to the next
The use of ancestor bones is already similar to inheritance. I don't see why other properties would'nt be transmited as well.
i love this concept, its super cool!! and that picture from near the end representing childbirth is perhaps the best thing ive seen all lockdown hahahahah
Woah another great vid with such a cool concept
(Also the mother giving birth made me laugh lol)
Oh man I love all your worldbuilding stuff so much.
Had to rewind and double-check at the beginning that I'd heard "bone clothing" correctly. I don't know why I was doubting it on this channel.
Lovely!
Now this is an interesting concept, thank you for the video.
This is pretty metal, and glorious, Definitely using or adapting this idea because it's WAY too good to pass up. (more specifically wearing the bones of your past lives part)
Happiest picture of a birth I've seen.
Hey I recognise the stone effigy picture you used! That's Mount Nemrut in Turkey! I went there when I was living there
This could be combined with the egg world's practice of putting adolescent girls into a deep sleep for them to bring a spirit down with them.
i am so in love with this! ♥
Wonder if those bones are heavy...
Stunning as always!
I imagine a kinship system on the volcano is quite a wild one.
Also I can imagine a tale exists of witch or a monster coming to steal the bones of the family, maybe as vengeance, maybe to steal their power or even soul.
This is such a cool concept. Great video!
WOAH! this phenomenal
Can you do a video on a Spirit Realm and the different spirits that reside in it?
I REALLY want to hear you talk more about this.
also I feel there's a mechanism of inter clan unity for this system.
a clan who has had their statues burned is likely in dire straits; one who has children past their named statues is one which might be on the upswing; thus weaker clan's members might be absorbed into the stronger one by being "Oh yes, that child must be X, of our lineage; giving the child a NAME name, & shielding the weaker clan members.
could even see clans which have run out of effigies paying weaker clans to destroy their statues so their new child has access to bones and protection rather than having to deal with a nameless child
GIVING BIRTH!!!!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂
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Lets return to the decaying corpse.
Is a powerful sentence.
Would the unknown babies with simple names be renamed when they become an adult do children with known souls have dreams of past lives?
I have a few questions that might be interesting to think about when expanding this idea:
1. Can the souls inhabiting the effigies communicate with the living/say anything other than their name? Can only shamans or other spiritual leaders do this? If not, have families developed a kind of code to communicate (maybe like Morse code with saying the name fast or slow instead of dots and dashes)?
2. Do souls entering a new body retain their memories? If so, is anything lost (either from corpse to effigy, effigy to baby, or both)? Would their be toddlers with the mannerisms of someone centuries old? Or would it be only raw knowledge that’s transitioned?
3. What would happen if someone violated the no-stone-effigy rule? Would it simply not work? Or was there a figure in this people’s history that put their soul in a stone statue in a grab at immortality?
4. How does this culture view abortion? Presumably a fetus is just bodies not inhabited by a soul, but if Grandma’s effigy is seriously damaged, would a pregnancy be forced to continue even if it risks the mother, just to make sure that that ancestor doesn’t fly away?
5. How does this culture view gender? Does a soul stay strictly in male or female bodies? Or can they switch and swap? If the latter, and they retain their memories/personality, would there be a transition phase when, for example, your mans man of an uncle is reborn as your baby sister? Would said uncle be raised male? Would a culture with concrete evidence of the soul and reincarnation like this even have a concept of gender?
6. When a person with an unknown name dies, would there be an attempt to find where they came from? Like when such a person’s soul enters their effigy everyone in the village comes together to attempt to identify them by the name they whisper?
this is only what i think but:
1. if the souls are "awake" inside the wooden statues then someone probably tried something like this and maybe it worked, but the fact that the souls only say their names makes me think that they are in a state of stasis or something similar to sleeping.
SEBASTIAN LARA LILLO Ooooh, that’s a good point. Maybe there are certain Samhain-esque holidays when the dead wake up for a bit and catch up with their families. Or maybe they do something like in Shinto where they have to make some kind of loud noise to temporarily ‘wake up’ the spirit.
@@dylanchouinard6141 i would personally prefer the samhain-esque version since we have yet to know any of the holidays this culture has, altough if the shinto option was true do you think they would have rules about when is acceptable to wake up the spirit or can they just chat on a daily basis?
SEBASTIAN LARA LILLO I would assume so. They would probably only be consulted during a severe emergency that even the wisest among the living cannot solve. Though, to connect it back to Shintoism, would the ancestors be revered as deities, invoked not just for advise, but to effect the natural world?
3. in the video at 0:30 she says that a stone statue wouldn't work, so is very probable that the soul can only inhabit biological materials
4.i think that would depend on wherever or not it's possible for a soul to transfer from one statue to another
This was awesome! :D
that would be sorta akward though.
Like what would the family dynamics be if you knew your daughter was also your mom.
Well, that just means that if your mother was a good one, this is your chance to return the favor she did for you in raising you well. If she raised you poorly, you have an opportunity to show her how it should be done.
Honestly I don't think it would be awkward at all - No less awkward than, say, raising a child that you/your wife didn't give birth to, which is something that many normal and reasonable people choose to do and enjoy doing. In both cases, it's certainly a different dynamic than what's typical, but it's just a quirk of the world you learn to accept, either immediately or in time.
wasn't this kinda the tradition already when it comes to naming kids after dead loved ones?
@@MisterCynic18 That's a very good point, but there's one difference here.
When my parents, for example, gave me the name John, after my uncle, grandfather, great grandfather, great great grandfather, and so on, all they were giving me was the name. And that was their choice.
Here, it means something more. You're not just given the name, the name is *literally yours*. Your parents don't even get to choose it, unless you start off nameless. Not only that, you don't just get the name from it - You get the *history* of that name. You basically get to lay claim to all your past lives, as different incarnations of yourself.
Two things I'm wondering now that I've thought about this more - One, I think it would be interesting if a culture not only had this tradition, but also, each person eventually remembered their past lives as they grew up.
Two... Where did the first names come from, you think? What were they like? How many of them have survived? Do you think anyone has ever deliberately destroyed the effigy of a name? Can you have estranged souls inhabit effigies and learn a new name that way?
There's so much going on here, this is a really cool idea.
I worry about how much pressure it would be to live up to your name, especially if you yourself are so much unlike your past incarnations. *cough*AvatarKora*cough*
This also brings up an issue of bearing the guilt of past wrongdoers. One of the things about reincarnation is that nobody knows your past lives: you could have been anybody before since we all lose our memories. If everyone knows who’s soul you’ve got and yours was one that committed some great crime in the recent past, there’s no way the rest of the village is going to let you forget it. With that stigma you’d never get treated normally, and you’d probably internalize that you are a bad person without even having done anything. I guess this isn’t that different from IRL, where we stigmatize the whole families for one criminal, but it’d be stronger and more defined because you are _literally_ that person.
@@AnkhAnanku Eh, Korra was an upgrade from Kuruk at least
If the bones survive the house fire, but the soul is lost, what happens to the bones? Maybe it is kept, and the soul on the new body is drawn to it?
Also, this setting is perfect for a story of a soul of royal/powerfull lineage losing itself, and slowly making its way back to the rightfull power
The tomb you showed looks kinda like a shield volcano
"But lets return to the decaying corpse!"
gd, i LOVE this concept. cant help but think tho - imagine how utterly devastating it would be in a culture like this, to have your home burn (like if theres a war and someone came thru and pillaged ur village while u were out hunting for a couple days?)
all your ancestors and family just, WHOOSH, gone just like that
I feel like it would not be uncommon for most of their effigies to be unoccupied, with the souls currently inhabiting living people. a family who's ancestors are all still in effigies would probably already be in a pretty bad spot.
come to think of it, the threat of losing ancestors might be an added reason to keep having kids. though on the other hand, having more kids than you have effigies would suck for the "extra" kids
The babies that are given simples names perhaps could be seen as soulless and suffer rejection from the community. The spiritual leaders or oracles that are capable of hearing the whispers could, in fact, use their "auditory power" to determine if a child is a bastard son or something if no spirit stopped whispering.
This is the creepiest and most interesting video you have made but the boon clothing thing is going to hunt me for a long time.
I like the idea that the people with these "unknown souls" are treated very well in their old age and when they die they don't get a effigy, but instead get a big party where they are honored, but through out the party the people also honor a lost soul from their family speaking their name often and loudly in hopes that the "unknown soul" that was with them with send the lost soul home if it sees them. Maybe they also have a little communal place in town where names of unknown souls are listed with notes "arrived as Napolean, was renamed meadow. Was mischievous as a child but grew to be reliable and brave" this was "unknown souls" can be watched to an extent so if they reappear in the village they may be recognized
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ok I think that with each incarnation of the new soul, the name would slowly change into something unique, therefor makeing the new soul into an official member of the community. How long this takes depends on the soul.
Didn't even have to say the fact those with unknow names are socially screwed. John Snow, ye bastard!
What do people who don’t have a known soul do for bones? Do they wear borrowed bones or do they have to go without protection?
Gotta build that new bone pile somehow.
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Now I wonder how bone affecting Diseases are seen.
And do they belive that people with schitzophrenia have two or more souls in their body?
And if there are twins born, are they seen as one soul inhabiting two bodies?
And is the size of the statue important? Could one hold more than one soul if it is big enough?
There could be new cultures with communal soul vessels.
And could there also be other kinds of spirits that may inhabit a body if there are no souls nearby? It would be interesting if souls and spirits would also affect the appearance/physiology.
Do they believe that other animals have souls? They might place little statues of the animals they hunt in the forests, to ensure that their souls will be reborn as well. Or they might also have soul vessels for pets.
And if they built on the ruins of the soulchambers of some ancient civilisation, they might get those ancient souls in their population (driven insane by the isolation?)
And if there is only a limited number of souls there could be some sort of apocalyptic illness if there are more people born than there are souls. The Soulless may rise!
Oh, and what about fossils?
Some people would end up with a _lot_ of bones from their past lives
Clearly, these people would be seen as wise and storied persons, or perhaps even powerful individuals that will be a force to be reckoned with. You could have all *sorts* of crazy drama from that.
@Chandini Writes Man, I just realized... You could really be boned if you aren't born with enough bones.
On an only vaguely more serious note, "boned" would have a very different connotation in this culture.
the truly affluent create bone homes
I think I'm going to take this and have a village use this in my d&d world were Nerul is the god of death and taking souls for himself to gain power and this would be a good way to protect souls and hide from death
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Ngl I goddamn loved this so shut up and take my sub.
So are babies born without a soul or do people have multiple souls?
Born without one! But a soul enters soon after birth.
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Curious, but how would this community grow? Only through new souls with no ancestry; are they then a finite resource? A caste system to manage them?
hello Im a writer and i was wondering if these are concepts free for any one to use or are they for ideas because the are so creative.
You can use them if you want; I'm not planning to do anything with these ideas myself.
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Do human souls reincarnate into animals?
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What if the "babies whose names aren't known" are always given the same generic name (let's say John Doe). As they grow up they are told their name isn't their real name, and instead they must "make a name for themselves" through some grandiose feat. As such, the birth of a nameless baby is considered a prelude for greatness. The tribe has many stories about mighty warriors or great leaders that started their lives as simple John Does.
It would be interesting to see how death and old age is treated in this culture.
Perhaps when people grow old, and there is a young couple, they commit suicide in order to get into a young body faster. And those who choose to remain living for as long as possible would be seen as martyrs as they live in a disabled state in order to preserve and spread knowledge.
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