The Led Zeppelin Riff EVERYONE Plays Wrong!
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in my defense, i've never played it, but i do play most riffs wrong, and by most i mean all.
Doesn't matter, as long as it sounds good. I've seen so many videos of people telling me the "right" way to play a song. Ehh, who cares, I like how I play them.
Yeah, me too!! We can form a club. !😄
That’s settles it. We are all now in a band. The Wrong Ones. First album….”Four Wrongs don’t make it Right”
@@larrimos Genuis! multiplatinum
@@larrimos We should get Weird Al to produce us. His knowledge of accordion riffs should be perfect to really mess us up!
Page has always been the master of up strokes. That's how he gets alot of his tone. Most of his riffs are flavored with up strokes.
He’s one of the hardest to really emulate his erratic style
The key to sounding like Page is to miss notes and stumble across the fretboard. Keith Richard’s is the same way, and I LOVE them both for it. The lack of precision gives it that signature raunch!
@@norseman61 Lack of precision. That's me. Well doesn't sound as cool.
@@rishz7857 Yeah, I know what you mean. For me, lack of precision sounds like someone who doesn't know what they're doing. But hey, I'm having fun!
"A lotta his stuff was Telecaster in the studio."
Yup. He had a buttercream Tele he got from Jeff Beck. He used it on the first album, parts of the second album and the solo on Stairway. Possibly at other times as well, but I haven't seen anything about that, so I don't know. Wouldn't surprise me, though. I think that's where the studio crispness comes from. Tele bridge pickups can be very aggressive sounding, but they have that crispness to them even under high overdrive.
Alex Lifeson did that too. I saw an interview with him once where he said that he did a lot of his writing on a favourite old Tele. Then in the studio, he'd double track, throwing Tele one side, Les Paul the other. He may have played his white 355 live like I saw him do on the Hemispheres tour, or his selection of custom built PRS's and Floyd Rose equipped Strats in the '80's, but in the studio, he apparently liked Teles plus Les Pauls for a lot of his work.
The Dragon Tele got messed up by a “friend” that decided to slather heavy brown paint all over the body. Page hated it, totally killed the tone of the guitar, took him decades to find someone to strip that off but now it’s been restored in all it’s Dragon Tele glory.
All you need is a Tele.. 👍
Hey Robert, Thanks!! Just bought your new Art of the Riff Course. Awesome!😍
Whole Lotta Love was the main reason I fell in love with the guitar.
Whole Lotta Love for Your Channel ! Thanks for What you Do Robert, Great Info in a Cool Vibe 😎🤙 🎸
Awesome! In the midst of figuring this one out. Very helpful! Thank you!
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Thanks man!! It does sound different and better this way you show. I always use one of my Teles for Zeppelin.
Playing it that way also subtly changes the rhythm; all down strokes gives a much more staccato effect, whereas using both up and down strokes gives a slightly looser feel.
Can you imagine doing a whole concert in choppy down strokes? My arm would fall off! 🤣🤣
Thank You! I was always sure that exactly such a nuances makes these music and sound great and unic. And to find them it`s like to find treasure or new unknown mainland. Also, Page shows Perry in rehearsal mystical chord in the end of Immigrant Song and it`s so cool too!
OMG…thank you Robert for pointing out the ending…I have always heard it that way and played it like that…but I thought I was crazy cuz nobody else seemed to hear it much less play it…you rock my man 👍
It's subtle but makes a big difference. You nailed it!
It grooves much better with the upstrokes version. Definitely has a dance-ier kinda vibe.
Thanks for that i've been butchering it with downstrokes for years.
And on that high major 3rd ending bit he left hand finger mutes the low E string, so his low E just chunks a bit. Most of the low E you hear there is the bass guitar.
🤔…..yeah, that’s a great catch pointing out that ending riff that practically nobody ever plays….sort of a hard-rock version of a Picardy Third. Very cool.
Excellent video.
Really great video. Thank you for highlighting this riff! 🎸🤙
That does sound alot better, it almost sounds like an over dubbed not right there with the open string, I wondered how they got that sound right there lol
A great riff that stands the test of time.
Another zep song everybody gets wrong is Good Times Bad Times. The D part following the E is achieved by starting on the open D and then hammering on the A and D at the 7th fret. The turn around following this also starts on the open D and hammers on to the F sharp. When i stumbled into this approach the feel of the riff suddenly shouted its authenticity.
Dude, Right on! Thanks man, sounds better for sure. Swings a little better for me.
it helps add a loose feeling if you do that with the picking hand, really helps it groove more. Adrian Smith does sort of the same with 2 minutes to midnight, which is taught as only downpicks, but I've seen him play the double stops with upstrokes in an interview. I've been doing it like that since and it helps add a groove to that as well.
I never realised this. Mind blown 😐
I can't wait to try this later tonight!
You actually don't have to move your hand if your playing open e and the e simultaneously on the a string. The lower note is directly below the e on the string that had the open e simular to stranglehold
Great video man. The little things all add up!
You are so helpful! Thanks!
Rob, I love that tele you have. What series is it? I have the vintera 50's mod with the same color. Great vids as always \m/.
Hey Nick it's the American Vintage ll 63 Tele
Love this! Great attention to detail.
That's a beautiful Tele, what model is it? I have a 50's Vintera and love it, but that's a gorgeous colour there! Thanks for another awesome episode!
As you get older (I mean really old) the first thing that goes is the high-speed down picking. So you have to fake it with alternate picking. Good to see this video.
I've never downpicked it, it just feels right with alternate picking, however I alternate pick it to the rhythm, so I always pick the B and D down up up down
the biggest mistake everyone makes is not bending the a string on the 5th fret! That gives it that spezial swagger... Ive seen slash butcher it. You are of course a Eddie fan so you got it.. Thanks
Thank you! This was great! Given that I was playing this riff wrong just yesterday, I now need to go and retrain the muscle memory...
Hey Rob, ever looked into angled switch plates for tele?
Oh man that tele looks (and sounds) amazing!
After all these years, I recently heard the major third move at the end- good call!
Hats off and THANK YOU, ROBERT! Now I know!👍⭐️👍
Gotta give this a try tomorrow when I'm not laying in bed watching your vid, but it makes far more sense to me in my head to hit those two D notes on an upstroke. Why on earth didn't I try that before??
Not sure about this one. Sure, in the concert footage he IS playing it that way at the end of a long show. But the album just doesn't sound like that to me. You don't hear that up stroke "chaka" sound on the gallop part on the album version.
man i would love if you did more advanced or impossible licks, i love your vids and want a challenge!!
Well, I guess I know what I'm playing when I get off work. But it does make me wonder if that's how he played it in the studio recording?
Okay-now I wanna play THIS riff on that thar Firebirdie
Love the surf green Tele...and the riff.
Gotta love how we’re always learning!
Ha, I have always played it like the way you are prescribing, but thought I was being lazy not doing it the "correct" way. :) You've made my day. I can carry on, but this time with confidence :)
Funny enough this is probably one of the only things I actually have always played right. I have always played it just this way. The other riffs on the other hand…. Man I need some serious practice. Just realized the other day how wrong I’ve been playing Ten Years Gone. Great video as usual!
Great sound on that Tele.
Great reminder thanks man
Communication breakdown has same kind of techniques I never realized before!
Good to know...thanks for sharing.
Thank you, Robert. You're awesome.
Thanks for the tip!
Nice video. Keep on rocking.
Thank you. Never noticed that before
Nailed the tone, dynamics, attack…at least to my ears. Well done!
Funny I have a 2011 Fender Tele MIM SeaFoam Green w/ White pickguard. Only difference I have dual humbuckers on mine. Nice Robert👍 Tele On. Hahaha
Great video. Just to give some credit to Ben Eller, he taught it this way, with the alternate picking, years ago.
Love ole uncle Ben but even in his video if you watch he plays the first part Down Down vs Down Up like Jimmy
@@RobertBakerGuitar I was going by memory so must have remembered incorrectly. Anyway, love your vids!
When’s the new Nuno video coming? One solo has set the guitar world on fire!!
Of course we’re playing Led Zeppelin wrong! There’s only one Page, Plant, Jones and Bonham.
Great tip, thx! 🎸
That Tele sounds monumental.
That's the way I naturally play it but with an initial slide in the fingering
I was just talking Zeppelin on a different type and , lesser channel of course when the great Rob Baker shows up and gets the led out right on time! That's the way we Roll... whole lotta Zeppelin goin' on over at Rob's channel! Rob's been learning, I been yearnin', Rob's gonna send us back to schoolin' 🤣✌️❤️🎸🎶🙏
I love how you corrected I knew that he was playing the D string
Thats the same concept whem doing the black dog riff, the 2nd part of the main riff everyone gets wrong. On that 2nd part riff your first note is on an up beat, not a down beat.
Four sticks has the same upstroke trick in the intro....big difference in sound comparatively
My Shell Pink Tele says "hey" to your Seafoam Green Tele...
oh man, you are right, down and up stroke. Cheers.
You nailed it. Because it's blues as rock. 🎸 🎶
Chuggin along on the main riff is the sauce
Im old. I learn by ear and feel. Thats the way i learned it when inwas like 15?
My hrother swore I was playing it wrong. His band played it wrong hahahaha.
Yeah, you're right!
Nothing beats a Tele bro. Especially the RK Signature. Best guitar I’ve ever played easily and I own American Strats and Tele’s
🔥bird give away ? Yay!
Nice! For whatever reason, this is a difficult riff for me.
Yep
I have been playing it mostly right! :)
I knew it was going to be Whole Lotta Love just from the title! 😂
I’ve always played it like that but only because I find all downstrokes hard work.
Would love to hear you jam with Chris Buck!!
Its interesting how some people can't hear that difference i have been playing by ear for 30+ yrs and nuances like that just stick out like dogs balls to
me the same seems to go with open notes vs fretted notes some people have a hard time picking that out too for some reason.I don't usually get to bent out of shape
with what the right hand is doing though unless its finger picking hitting the right notes is more important you need to do some things your own way to develop your own style.
thank you Mr Baker
He did actually change the way he played the riff, abandoning the fifth and playing the open E and the octave on the A string. This can be heard as early as 1971 and is heard in the Song Remains the Same as well. It doesn't sound as "heavy metal" that way, and maybe that's why he did it. He didn't like that label. But that riff was perfect to begin with, and that other way is less effective to these ears.
I cant fin a link for the Guitar.....
Talk about Communication people seem to play that in all sorts of ways too lol
I knew it! My ear ain't so bad after all
I've always played it with alternate picking cause it grooves more.... and it's easier for me.... and it's because I'm too lazy to do all that aggressive down picking.
The D in the main riff is bent slightly sharp.
Yes! The swing of the right hand is crucial! And the other critical thing is to push the A string a little sharp against the ringing open D, to get just a little dissonance on that note.
It's "chugging" not "crunching." Kinda how he played in The Yardbirds, I think. There was no Sabbath then. 🙂
I've always played it alternate picking, just like communication breakdown. I play smarter, not harder. 😁
Your room looks killer!🎸😎
thanks, so many are still covering this song..............
To my ear, on the studio recording, Pagey plays down/up on that very first part but then all down strokes on the second part. I don't think you can get that syncopated muted rhythm stutter with down/up picking. He always played down/up strokes live for the whole thing because it's less tiresome on the right hand and the song was often part of the encore after a three hour set. I would be shocked if he played all down/up on the studio recording performance.
of course, now I'm listening back and rethinking everything lol. is that a down/up gallup or an all down stutter?
The real question here is what guitar and amp did he use on that song? But seriously, play the solo with a wah peda in the toe down position…always.
I played like that from the start i learned that song (now I forgotten it ) but people should pay more attention to what sounds good, not so much on how the strumming is up or down, I'll get that by playing a song many times and listening to the record, but either way it can sound good I guess
I noticed what you noticed in the movie and I play it the way Page does. It feels better to me.
Hats Off to (Rob) Baker
That Joe Walsh bend is key
I guess I've been playing it right for 40 years...but thanks for your insight.
i always strummed it just because its more comfortable
Wonder how much Lemon Song YT would give
Or some Just Got Paid? Love lessons, thanks!