The greatest operatic film that is not an opera, and Serafima Birman is the screen's best villainess. I know of nothing in cinema to match the intensity of the last two reels. Their pity and terror are overwhelming.
the color sequence and the dances were pure art, that was a great wonderful movie, you can see how much talent and effort were put into this piece of art and how expensive this movie must have been.. all love and greetings from brazil
Merci pour ce chef-d'œuvre du cinéma. Eisenstein était un génie qui a su franchir le passage du cinéma muet au cinéma parlant en combinant l'expressivité de l'un avec les possibilités qu'offrait le second d'inclure de la musique et des passages chantés. Après cela nombre de films historiques contemporains vont nous sembler bien ternes. Au fait merci à mosfilm de mettre tous ces bons films soviétiques à notre disposition en 4k et sans publicité pour gâcher le plaisir.
WOW high on drama naturally, but I would imagine it is very real in a natural fashion. I was thrilled by the special effects and the shadow lighting is over the top. Xlent in every way. I will definitely pass this film along. Proudly speaking, I remain at 80 y.o., Sentebey in USA
Фильм , который можно пересматривать много раз и каждый раз будешь находить что то новое! Какая многогранная картина... просто чудо! Каждый кадр - произведение искусства! Надо срочно почитать мемуары Эйзенштейна) Я преклоняюсь перед его гениальностью , мудростью и человеколюбием...
I truly love melodramatic acting. What if we act like this in real life like a in home at work in shop 😂 such an rivalry to Colombian telenovella. In these days backstabbing, foul play and diplomacy, nothibg really changed. Thank you Mosfilm for movies to watch and understand old world and see also future 🤗
5: min & ff not only express the Russian viewpoint in the 1930's but the Polish king perfectly expresses the modern viewpoint of NATO & POLAND today as well. |Visually stunning and quite prophetic!
Perfectly sums up European mentality about Russia which has existed since centuries. Be it the Teutonic Knights, Poles, Swedes, French or Nazi Germans. God has inflicted humiliation on all of those for their arrogance.
Poland and NATO would like nothing better than to have the Russian Federation as a peaceful neighbor and prosperous economic partner. But Russia still obsessed with spheres of influence, domination and conquest. That's the reason it must be contained. Until Russia becomes a modern civilized nation, until it embraces democracy, until it rejects toxic nationalism, lawlessness, bigotry, paranoia and fascism, it cannot be trusted. For the next 20-30 years, all NATO countries will have to waste money on military expenditures to deter and, if necessary, to defeat Russian aggression. It's an unwelcome distraction from the great European Experiment, but it is a historical necessity. It's a lose/lose situation: Europe lags behind the US and China, Russia remains a primitive pariah state that the world fears and despises.
If only you could trust the word of the “Elite”… neither west or east… nor east or west… power attracts the corruptible and so shall it always be! Those of us on the bottom pay in blood for the ambitions of powerful uncaring and corrupt people. It’s a human issue.
Eisenstein actually DREW the exact sketches of each scene before filming! Talking about a Grand Master! And he couldn't have found a more suitable composer for his films, Prokofiev! The latter, during the Soviet period, came to America but, after a while, he could not stand the lack of culture and went back to Russia-even under Stalin!
@unknown24242424 0 seconds ago I’m Australian but I’ve now watched both part 1 & 2 of this movie. A genuine piece of art and great insight into Russia - I follow Russia a lot and like to learn about its history. I highly recommend this movie - the olden day movies are great.
Why is Ivan IV Grozny, in English translation persistently called the Terrible? The exact, direct translation of the Russian word Grozny is "threatening".
Hey, how long AFTER Part 1 was this made? I thought it better than the first one. The writing was beautiful... at least I think, because the English translation was excellent. Part 2 seemed a maturity in storyline and entertaining value.
@@youtubedude09 Wow! I didn't know that at all! We really enjoyed the movie here in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. We speak only English, but STILL marveled at the writing, despite some being lost in translation.
@@youtubedude09 You are mistaken, Eisenstein died in 1948. The first episode of the film was released in 1945. The second episode was filmed almost simultaneously with the first, but was not released because it was actually banned. Both episodes of the film were released only after Stalin's death in 1958. Fragments of the planned but unfinished third series have been preserved.
Two things I just realized upon rewatching this film This scene at 57:49 confused me on my first watch as to why all of the guys behind the black robbed ones are tripping over and falling like a bunch of idiots but I think the guys wearing red and gold are not Oprichniki but like the Boyars and them tripping and falling on top of the unconscious guy represents their clumsiness and disunity. This guy in the white robes at 4:21 is also played by the same guy who played one of the bishops in Alexander Nevsky, Naum Rogozhin. I always assumed Cherkasov was the only one who was in multiple of Eisenstein’s films but I suppose I have been proven wrong. I wonder if he would have had a role in Part 3.
@@jestersareawesome4332 yes Cherkasov had the main role in part three and the entire film was completed but Stalin had it destroyed. I think 11 minutes of it survived somewhere.
It's a bit hard to understand the oprichniks' scene. Fedya is singing about oprichniks, who are supposed to be a kind of an army or police to kill the boyars (the stupid feodals all in gold). But as oprichniks are supposed to bring the good, they've brought the bad. They did evrth they wanted, as they were the closest to the Tsar. So they killed anyone they wanted and got all the gold from boyars to themselves. And the've become the second boyars, the same feodals after all. So the good turned into the evil it was supposed to beat. So people in black are oprichniks, the shadows of the Tsar. They're dancing, whilst people in red and white are falling, they are defeated. As l suppose it's a bit about the war between the white and the red, where the red were communists (the ordinary people, the aristocraths' slaves), and the white were the aristocraths (the monarchists). At the result, the red (the slaves), has won and they've created USSR, where there was no slaves and masters, there were only equal people. So here we can see that oprichniks weren't evil only for boyars (aristocraths, feodals, masters), but also evil for ordinary people. So you should understand this whilst watching, who's who. Amazing dance, amazing music, amazing scene between the black, the red and the white, amazing Fedya!! The Tsar's favourite.
@@woshinigegeduuuuudde I love what you just said. Given this film is relatively obscure (at least in the US, idk if it’s different in Russia) I don’t get to see many talking about this master piece of a film. So it was nice to hear your take on this film! 😊
It's a bit hard to understand the oprichniks' scene. Fedya is singing about oprichniks, who are supposed to be a kind of an army or police to kill the boyars (the stupid feodals all in gold). But as oprichniks are supposed to bring the good, they've brought the bad. They did evrth they wanted, as they were the closest to the Tsar. So they killed anyone they wanted and got all the gold from boyars to themselves. And the've become the second boyars, the same feodals after all. So the good turned into the evil it was supposed to beat. So people in black are oprichniks, the shadows of the Tsar. They're dancing, whilst people in red and white are falling, they are defeated. As l suppose it's a bit about the war between the white and the red, where the red were communists (the ordinary people, former aristocraths' slaves), and the white were the aristocraths (the monarchists). At the result, the red (former slaves krestyane), has won and they've created USSR, where there was no slaves and masters, there were only equal people. So here we can see that oprichniks weren't evil only for boyars (aristocraths, feodals, masters), but also evil for ordinary people. So you should understand this whilst watching, who's who. Amazing dance, amazing music, amazing scene between the black, the red and the white, amazing Fedya!! The Tsar's favourite.
I thought that was pretty good, how he solved the dilemma of his aunt killing his wife. Apparently Stalin did not like part 2, Eisenstein was summoned to the kremlin, the conversation has been historically recorded, i just read it. Stalin wanted a more taking control character, like Alexander Nevsky, but there where so many machinations going on, Ivan had to bend with the wind to see what was really going on, and he did have a cunning plan in the end that cleverly resolved the dramas problems.
Tzar Ivan IV got both bad rap and facelift in posterity. The painting “Ivan the Terrible kills his son” has become iconic. Russian artists made him the grumpy bearded guy with a Gandalf stave draped in upholstery fabric, and with the permanent look of someone who has just seen a ghost. He waged a lot of wars, crushed Tatars, and worked on the amazing idea of moving into the Buckingham palace in London centuries before it was even built. On the other side, he pioneered the concept of Great Purges and left the country in a state of a terrible disarray that in a couple of decades resulted in the Time of Troubles. Stalin liked Ivan the Terrible and even commissioned a biopic, shot by the genius Sergei Eisenstein. Ivan was the first champion of modernization in Russia, which Stalin appreciated much. He also shared Ivan’s idea of expedited rotation of elites by means of imprisonment and assassination. The surge of nationalistic feelings in Russia makes Tzar Ivan the object of renewed debate. Many loyalists, Stalinists and imperial nostalgists say that he was a good guy, maligned by the enemies of Russia.
Hope the director had completed the third part where he was to show the remorse that stuck Ivan of all his ill doings. Such a great movie. The 3rd part was meant to end with a confession scene in which Ivan kneels beneath last judgment fresco and offers his repentance for the evils of his reigns while a monk reads out an endless list of people he killed; Ivan bangs his forehead against flagstones, his eyes and ears filled with blood. Eisenstein said,” Stalin has killed more people and he still does not repent. Let him see this and he will repent”: Stalin liked the first part that got Stalin prize. Stalin reacted violently on second part’s screening and said it to be some nightmare. Film was banned and not shown until 1958, ten years after director’s death. Stalin called Eisenstein and said Ivan should have killed all boyar clans and god was hindrance to him in this respect and he should have been more ruthless. This way Russian times of troubles could have been avoided. - from Orlando Figes book The Story of Russia. 🙏🏽
If people like tsar Ivan and Stalin did not exist, Russia would not have become an empire.. if they didn't fight, not just the enemies from outside, but the enemies from inside Russia, Russia as we know, wouldn't exist today..
19 minutes in and so far this is WAY better than Part 1 that was just slow and annoying. At least here we get back stories and character development. I'm rooting for Ivan now
Young Erik pyrev had a true actor 's face and fab eurasian eyes...he had, (,in my opinion)something of younger johnny depp,but teenager russian actor was much more handsome and espressive than his american colleague,according to me
Unfortunately some beautiful scenes of very young and beautiful actor who played Ivan as child were cut....that boy was really espressive but I read (,Unfortunately)he died early and what a shame mister cherkasov cannot speak english....if those actors would had been american they would been known in each part of the world,and young Erik pyrev could be celeb too
@@annaritaranalli1791 Mr. Cherkasov was more than a celebrity. Sir Lawrence Olivier gave him an award in England, the NY Times has an obituary on the front page for him and in Saint Petersburg is a street named after him, in addition to all the fame he had in Russia. Actually, Hollywood offered him a role which he turned down to play the Ivan movies. And my guess would be that he did speak English.
there is a russian movie about the decembrist revolt named "union of salvation" but without proper english subtitles,could you upload it with a proper one, please?
Someone says nikolaj cerkasov took after his American colleague gary cooper....i think cerkasov was much more handsome and espressive than cooper(and i love American movies and most of his actors)....i think cooper's good look is very overrated
@@redtobertshateshandles Very different shit, as it implies that he was a terrible person. Same deal with idiotic " We will bury you" transation of Khruchev. He never said it)))
@@CoolGobyFish It is always understood as 'terrible to behold', meaning he fills you with terror. Which he did, literally. Ask the citizens of Novgorod.
@@fredneecher1746 Terrible doesn't mean "fills with terror". A proper translation would have been Ivan The Grim, Ivan the Formidable, or Ivan the Fearsome. As he was NOT a terrible person and was/is highly respected by regular people for cleaning out corruption.
"heavenly tamarind" how sour!!! hehehe... "tsarist kinship is sacred", the ironiacl lonely life of a tsar or any great leader who live for his nation...
Some people complain about the "musical number". The best way to understand the meaning of that scene is to have lived in a police state. All these guys who jump and and down and dance and laugh have their hands full of blood so their songs are not of pure joy or good will but more like the cries and celebrations of beasts of prey. We could even says they are celebrating their latest beheadings. so this is not innocent rejoicing but an unashamed display of brute force. Notice the absence of women. This is the XV century equivalent of a SS or KGB orgy or frat reunion, far from the public eye. If you understand that this Oprichnina of Ivan is the prototype of the modern Secret State Police you'll see the "musical scene" in its true meaning.
Not mentioning that Fyodor sings his "joyful" song about the "uninvited guests", who break the gates in two, take the golden goblets, and set the chambers on fire when leaving, in a rather menacing manner
Совершенно согласна. Радости там нет никакой. Похоже на сатанинскую пляску. Улыбка Басманова не добрая, а зловещая. Переходящая тут же в жестокое выражение лица.
@@MichaelKurse how so? We defended ourselves in the 16th Century, we are still defending ourselves. We have to fight just to be considered humans. We must fight just to be allowed to exist. You were always the invader, we were always the defender
Russia has always been an imperial power, who expanded. How do you think you ended up across 11 time zones? America came to your defense in WW2, but you hate us because we weren't going to let you take over Europe.
Very interesting. Glad I watched it. After watching the polish king's speech-how little has changed over the last 700 years.
Polaks still think they are the defenders of Europe against the "Russian hordes". Too bad Germans think about them in the same way.
Yes,Russians still have completely the same paranoias.
The greatest operatic film that is not an opera, and Serafima Birman is the screen's best villainess.
I know of nothing in cinema to match the intensity of the last two reels. Their pity and terror are overwhelming.
l'un des plus grands films de tous les temps
"i fear no knife no poison no betrayal, i fear for my great cause..." wow!!!
the color sequence and the dances were pure art, that was a great wonderful movie, you can see how much talent and effort were put into this piece of art and how expensive this movie must have been.. all love and greetings from brazil
Sergei Eisenstein - provided all male actors the exemption , so that they would not be called to the FRONT.
@@ЕеРр-и7с what do you mean? sorry i couldn't understand
@@subyss В каком городе вы живёте в Бразилии? Мне нравится ваш комментарий
Meaning of the comment:- NO ONE WANTED TO DIE .
Film were made , from 1943 to 1944 .
One of the best movies of all times and probably the best.
I think the second part is even better than the first part.. And the colors sequence almost like dreaming.. Wonderful!! Thanks so much. 🎥🎥
Far better. Not that the first one is bad or mediocre but the second belongs in the list of the top ten movies of all times.
I agree totally
Merci pour ce chef-d'œuvre du cinéma. Eisenstein était un génie qui a su franchir le passage du cinéma muet au cinéma parlant en combinant l'expressivité de l'un avec les possibilités qu'offrait le second d'inclure de la musique et des passages chantés. Après cela nombre de films historiques contemporains vont nous sembler bien ternes. Au fait merci à mosfilm de mettre tous ces bons films soviétiques à notre disposition en 4k et sans publicité pour gâcher le plaisir.
WOW high on drama naturally, but I would imagine it is very real in a natural fashion. I was thrilled by the special effects and the shadow lighting is over the top. Xlent in every way. I will definitely pass this film along. Proudly speaking, I remain at 80 y.o., Sentebey in USA
I'm ashamed to say I'm completely in the dark over this!
But I love this to no end!
I hope to learn more of this....
Фильм , который можно пересматривать много раз и каждый раз будешь находить что то новое! Какая многогранная картина... просто чудо! Каждый кадр - произведение искусства! Надо срочно почитать мемуары Эйзенштейна) Я преклоняюсь перед его гениальностью , мудростью и человеколюбием...
Absolute masterpiece. Thank you so much!!! Mosfilm - the encyclopedia of masterpieces.
Thank you for the legend, Mosfilm. The acting was convincing to the extent one feels the actors becoming the characters.
highly agree... scriptwriter and director are excellent...
That's very true - Eisenstein has even made a collection of post-shooting cuts of Cherkasov when he continued to speak like a czar
Do you know how gifted mister ezestain choose cerkasov and the others actors,?
@@gofar5185 script writer and Director are one and the same: Eisenstein
Fantastic and incredibly actual! A cinematographic masterpiece and a geopolitical master book!
It's Shakespeare...Kurosawa...all wrapped up in a fox fur with a black beaver trim. Wonderful movie!
I truly love melodramatic acting. What if we act like this in real life like a in home at work in shop 😂 such an rivalry to Colombian telenovella.
In these days backstabbing, foul play and diplomacy, nothibg really changed.
Thank you Mosfilm for movies to watch and understand old world and see also future 🤗
WONDERFUL MOVIE.... THE ROOT OF RUSSIAN CULTURE BY EISENSTEIN`S GENIUSES... GREETINGS FROM BRAZIL
Even if he eisenstein was a latvian with swedish roots
@@annaritaranalli1791 he just born in Riga, he was russian jew
@@annaritaranalli1791 it was Russian Empire
Brasileiro tá em todo lugar mesmo kkkk, eae
5: min & ff not only express the Russian viewpoint in the 1930's but the Polish king perfectly expresses the modern viewpoint of NATO & POLAND today as well. |Visually stunning and quite prophetic!
Perfectly sums up European mentality about Russia which has existed since centuries. Be it the Teutonic Knights, Poles, Swedes, French or Nazi Germans. God has inflicted humiliation on all of those for their arrogance.
Poland and NATO would like nothing better than to have the Russian Federation as a peaceful neighbor and prosperous economic partner. But Russia still obsessed with spheres of influence, domination and conquest. That's the reason it must be contained. Until Russia becomes a modern civilized nation, until it embraces democracy, until it rejects toxic nationalism, lawlessness, bigotry, paranoia and fascism, it cannot be trusted. For the next 20-30 years, all NATO countries will have to waste money on military expenditures to deter and, if necessary, to defeat Russian aggression. It's an unwelcome distraction from the great European Experiment, but it is a historical necessity. It's a lose/lose situation: Europe lags behind the US and China, Russia remains a primitive pariah state that the world fears and despises.
Big difference, Poland and NATO are now washed up have-beens overrun by legions of Muslims bent on eroding their societies.
@@stefan2292 The 1950s are begging you to come back, everything is forgiven. And say Hi to Ali and Leila.
If only you could trust the word of the “Elite”… neither west or east… nor east or west… power attracts the corruptible and so shall it always be! Those of us on the bottom pay in blood for the ambitions of powerful uncaring and corrupt people. It’s a human issue.
A timeless piece of art: BRAVO!!!
Eisenstein actually DREW the exact sketches of each scene before filming! Talking about a Grand Master! And he couldn't have found a more suitable composer for his films, Prokofiev! The latter, during the Soviet period, came to America but, after a while, he could not stand the lack of culture and went back to Russia-even under Stalin!
@@KaterinaStamatelos that's very interesting, thank you
Thank you so much for the reupload Mosfilm! Wasnt able to understand the film before without subtitles
Chorus's singing voices are so powerful and deep
Unglaublich!! Sehr sehr aussagekräftig.. Vergangenheit ist sehr gut dargestellt. Und was man heute sieht. Leid und elend und so weiter.
L'histoire se répète! Grand film!
Masterpiece after masterpiece, Mosfilm rules.
Even if more stylish than realistic...however ezestain was a master and he(or producer)choose perfect actors for movie
"enough clowning"... "poolish stooge"... excellent dialogues...
It really is a master piece!
It's Incredible how much this is similar to the current situation...
Yes, exactly.. history repeats itself, isn't.. it hasn't changed almost nothing, just different names..
You mean a cruel, paranoid, half-crazed despot in the Kremlin? I'm afraid so.
Loved part 1. Totally awesome. Though I did think his Aunt was a man. Lol . Her epithet " the ugly".
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I’m Australian but I’ve now watched both part 1 & 2 of this movie. A genuine piece of art and great insight into Russia - I follow Russia a lot and like to learn about its history. I highly recommend this movie - the olden day movies are great.
such a great movie , i'd been looking for it for years, thank you very much
Why is Ivan IV Grozny, in English translation persistently called the Terrible? The exact, direct translation of the Russian word Grozny is "threatening".
The West has always been afraid of strong Russian rulers. Ivan was the first. There were a lot of rumors and fake news about Ivan.
fearsome
It also means awe-inspiring
Mosfilm again did it.🙏🙏
A great film.
Best acting.❤
Lol from INDIA.🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
wonderful film every scene was art.
Brilliant and with decent subtitles
Pozdrav iz Hrvatske. Volio bih da znam više o caru Ivanu.
EXCELLENT IVAN THE TERRIBLE/RUSSIA FILM... script, directing, performers, filmmakers as a whole...
What a great film! 👍
Великий фильм Мастера!
Thank you for this masterpiece
Great movie, discovered it on hbo max glad it’s here🎉❤
Thank you for this wonderful movies 🎥 🙏😍🌹
So beautiful, balletic. Bravo!
Serafima birman was a charismatic and goood drama actress like helen mirren,vivien leigh and glenn close (for example)
One of my fav historical.movies even if there are some huge mistakes
Music's arrangement was (at least I guess)pretty revolutionary for the fortys
A masterpiece.
Hey, how long AFTER Part 1 was this made? I thought it better than the first one. The writing was beautiful... at least I think, because the English translation was excellent. Part 2 seemed a maturity in storyline and entertaining value.
14 years. The second part came out in 1958, according to google
@@youtubedude09 Wow! I didn't know that at all! We really enjoyed the movie here in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. We speak only English, but STILL marveled at the writing, despite some being lost in translation.
@@youtubedude09 You are mistaken, Eisenstein died in 1948. The first episode of the film was released in 1945. The second episode was filmed almost simultaneously with the first, but was not released because it was actually banned. Both episodes of the film were released only after Stalin's death in 1958. Fragments of the planned but unfinished third series have been preserved.
@@ОльгаГофман-о8у interesting. Thank you for correcting, Im always grateful to learn more about the amazing film
Two things I just realized upon rewatching this film
This scene at 57:49 confused me on my first watch as to why all of the guys behind the black robbed ones are tripping over and falling like a bunch of idiots but I think the guys wearing red and gold are not Oprichniki but like the Boyars and them tripping and falling on top of the unconscious guy represents their clumsiness and disunity.
This guy in the white robes at 4:21 is also played by the same guy who played one of the bishops in Alexander Nevsky, Naum Rogozhin.
I always assumed Cherkasov was the only one who was in multiple of Eisenstein’s films but I suppose I have been proven wrong. I wonder if he would have had a role in Part 3.
@@jestersareawesome4332 yes Cherkasov had the main role in part three and the entire film was completed but Stalin had it destroyed. I think 11 minutes of it survived somewhere.
@@isabelladelery5193 I didn’t mean Cherkasov, I meant the guy played by Rogozhin
It's a bit hard to understand the oprichniks' scene. Fedya is singing about oprichniks, who are supposed to be a kind of an army or police to kill the boyars (the stupid feodals all in gold). But as oprichniks are supposed to bring the good, they've brought the bad. They did evrth they wanted, as they were the closest to the Tsar. So they killed anyone they wanted and got all the gold from boyars to themselves. And the've become the second boyars, the same feodals after all. So the good turned into the evil it was supposed to beat.
So people in black are oprichniks, the shadows of the Tsar. They're dancing, whilst people in red and white are falling, they are defeated. As l suppose it's a bit about the war between the white and the red, where the red were communists (the ordinary people, the aristocraths' slaves), and the white were the aristocraths (the monarchists). At the result, the red (the slaves), has won and they've created USSR, where there was no slaves and masters, there were only equal people.
So here we can see that oprichniks weren't evil only for boyars (aristocraths, feodals, masters), but also evil for ordinary people. So you should understand this whilst watching, who's who.
Amazing dance, amazing music, amazing scene between the black, the red and the white, amazing Fedya!! The Tsar's favourite.
@@woshinigegeduuuuudde I love what you just said. Given this film is relatively obscure (at least in the US, idk if it’s different in Russia) I don’t get to see many talking about this master piece of a film. So it was nice to hear your take on this film! 😊
Your channel is fantastic, thanks for uploading all these amazing films, i am sick of hollywood kamehameha idiotic movies'
It's a bit hard to understand the oprichniks' scene. Fedya is singing about oprichniks, who are supposed to be a kind of an army or police to kill the boyars (the stupid feodals all in gold). But as oprichniks are supposed to bring the good, they've brought the bad. They did evrth they wanted, as they were the closest to the Tsar. So they killed anyone they wanted and got all the gold from boyars to themselves. And the've become the second boyars, the same feodals after all. So the good turned into the evil it was supposed to beat.
So people in black are oprichniks, the shadows of the Tsar. They're dancing, whilst people in red and white are falling, they are defeated. As l suppose it's a bit about the war between the white and the red, where the red were communists (the ordinary people, former aristocraths' slaves), and the white were the aristocraths (the monarchists). At the result, the red (former slaves krestyane), has won and they've created USSR, where there was no slaves and masters, there were only equal people.
So here we can see that oprichniks weren't evil only for boyars (aristocraths, feodals, masters), but also evil for ordinary people. So you should understand this whilst watching, who's who.
Amazing dance, amazing music, amazing scene between the black, the red and the white, amazing Fedya!! The Tsar's favourite.
Monumental.
Best wishes to Russia the Great from Patagonia, Chile.
Pentru amatorii de Istorie și de istoria Cinematografiei!
I thought that was pretty good, how he solved the dilemma of his aunt killing his wife. Apparently Stalin did not like part 2, Eisenstein was summoned to the kremlin, the conversation has been historically recorded, i just read it. Stalin wanted a more taking control character, like Alexander Nevsky, but there where so many machinations going on, Ivan had to bend with the wind to see what was really going on, and he did have a cunning plan in the end that cleverly resolved the dramas problems.
Do you remember where you read that conversation between Eisenstein and Stalin? I would love to read it
Tzar Ivan IV got both bad rap and facelift in posterity. The painting “Ivan the Terrible kills his son” has become iconic. Russian artists made him the grumpy bearded guy with a Gandalf stave draped in upholstery fabric, and with the permanent look of someone who has just seen a ghost.
He waged a lot of wars, crushed Tatars, and worked on the amazing idea of moving into the Buckingham palace in London centuries before it was even built. On the other side, he pioneered the concept of Great Purges and left the country in a state of a terrible disarray that in a couple of decades resulted in the Time of Troubles.
Stalin liked Ivan the Terrible and even commissioned a biopic, shot by the genius Sergei Eisenstein. Ivan was the first champion of modernization in Russia, which Stalin appreciated much. He also shared Ivan’s idea of expedited rotation of elites by means of imprisonment and assassination.
The surge of nationalistic feelings in Russia makes Tzar Ivan the object of renewed debate. Many loyalists, Stalinists and imperial nostalgists say that he was a good guy, maligned by the enemies of Russia.
Hope the director had completed the third part where he was to show the remorse that stuck Ivan of all his ill doings. Such a great movie. The 3rd part was meant to end with a confession scene in which Ivan kneels beneath last judgment fresco and offers his repentance for the evils of his reigns while a monk reads out an endless list of people he killed; Ivan bangs his forehead against flagstones, his eyes and ears filled with blood. Eisenstein said,” Stalin has killed more people and he still does not repent. Let him see this and he will repent”: Stalin liked the first part that got Stalin prize. Stalin reacted violently on second part’s screening and said it to be some nightmare. Film was banned and not shown until 1958, ten years after director’s death.
Stalin called Eisenstein and said Ivan should have killed all boyar clans and god was hindrance to him in this respect and he should have been more ruthless. This way Russian times of troubles could have been avoided.
- from Orlando Figes book The Story of Russia. 🙏🏽
If people like tsar Ivan and Stalin did not exist, Russia would not have become an empire.. if they didn't fight, not just the enemies from outside, but the enemies from inside Russia, Russia as we know, wouldn't exist today..
Если Орландо был приближенным Ивана Грозного и Сталина одновременно, возможно, все так и было, а иначе это лживая западная пропаганда.
Hey, thanks for the insight.
@@AmrinderSinghHundal yes Part 3 was completed the way Eisenstein wanted but destroyed by Stalin for obvious reasons.
This film is completely unhinged. About 20 years ahead of it's time surely ...
WOW!
Der beste Trick des Teufels besteht darin, Sie davon zu überzeugen, dass er nicht existiert. 🧐
19 minutes in and so far this is WAY better than Part 1 that was just slow and annoying. At least here we get back stories and character development. I'm rooting for Ivan now
Not to mention actual dialogue instead of close ups of mofos giving the "evil eye" and shuffling in and out of mouse holes
poor sacrificial lamb for OVERLY GREEDY AMBITIOUS mother and clans...
Большое спасибо! Мастерски!
Это была и есть Россия!
Слава России!
Слава России! меч над теми,кто извне посягает на величие России !
@@menastasiyat.3595 don't forget your Boy...., ruining Russia from inside.
Russians are murderers
@@frejafanRussians eat live children.
Thanks
Thanks mosfillm
спасибо
روعه. روعه. روعه. روعه. روعه. روعه
Ivan formidable for enemies
Suberb.Too good
Young Erik pyrev had a true actor 's face and fab eurasian eyes...he had, (,in my opinion)something of younger johnny depp,but teenager russian actor was much more handsome and espressive than his american colleague,according to me
Unfortunately some beautiful scenes of very young and beautiful actor who played Ivan as child were cut....that boy was really espressive but I read (,Unfortunately)he died early and what a shame mister cherkasov cannot speak english....if those actors would had been american they would been known in each part of the world,and young Erik pyrev could be celeb too
More importantly than being a celeb is the ability to really act Which all of them could, making American actors pale in comparison
Isabelladejay ,in part you are right(for example i 've never liked tyron power,jon wayne and clark gable)but there are also many good american actors
@@isabelladelery5193 Some would say overact.
@@annaritaranalli1791 Mr. Cherkasov was more than a celebrity. Sir Lawrence Olivier gave him an award in England, the NY Times has an obituary on the front page for him and in Saint Petersburg is a street named after him, in addition to all the fame he had in Russia. Actually, Hollywood offered him a role which he turned down to play the Ivan movies. And my guess would be that he did speak English.
Do you know if there are pics about kolja cerkasov and sir lawrence olivier togheter?
"preventing the moscow barbarian to join the family of enlightened europe countries..." hahahe...
Porque no traducen todas las películas en español se lo agradecerían los sud americanos gracias.
En esta canal se exhiben muchas obras de arte
there is a russian movie about the decembrist revolt named "union of salvation" but without proper english subtitles,could you upload it with a proper one, please?
Is there a version of this without the hardcoded subtitles?
tje eyes. Watch for the eyes. Shades of the silent films fron Hollywood.
😍😍😍😍😍😍 SLAVA ROSSIYA 🙏🙏🙏
меч над теми,кто извне посягает на величие России !
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Yesyes a masterpiece, and Sergio Leone in his western movies, on his cameraoperations taked a lot of influence...from Eisenstein..hehehe....
I didn't notice and i like leone's Westerns
Film School in 1:25:16!
Нас 500.000.000 говорящих по-испански, почему нет субтитров на испанском?
Because apart from Mandarin, English is spoken by more people than any other language.
Le sous titrage en anglais est caché la plupart du temps 🙄🤔
Remek djelo.
Someone says nikolaj cerkasov took after his American colleague gary cooper....i think cerkasov was much more handsome and espressive than cooper(and i love American movies and most of his actors)....i think cooper's good look is very overrated
Stop translating it as Ivan The Terrible))) It's Ivan The Grim. The improper translation implies that he was hated, instead of feared.
Same shit.
@@redtobertshateshandles Very different shit, as it implies that he was a terrible person. Same deal with idiotic " We will bury you" transation of Khruchev. He never said it)))
@@CoolGobyFish It is always understood as 'terrible to behold', meaning he fills you with terror. Which he did, literally. Ask the citizens of Novgorod.
It's an old translation from when Terrible meant something closer to Terrifying.
@@fredneecher1746 Terrible doesn't mean "fills with terror". A proper translation would have been Ivan The Grim, Ivan the Formidable, or Ivan the Fearsome. As he was NOT a terrible person and was/is highly respected by regular people for cleaning out corruption.
42:13 💀💀the looks on their faces 👼😂➡😳👀👹
Malyuta is like Ivan's Samwise Gamgee
He is devoted to Ivan, like Sam Frodo.
"heavenly tamarind" how sour!!! hehehe... "tsarist kinship is sacred", the ironiacl lonely life of a tsar or any great leader who live for his nation...
Some people complain about the "musical number". The best way to understand the meaning of that scene is to have lived in a police state. All these guys who jump and and down and dance and laugh have their hands full of blood so their songs are not of pure joy or good will but more like the cries and celebrations of beasts of prey. We could even says they are celebrating their latest beheadings. so this is not innocent rejoicing but an unashamed display of brute force. Notice the absence of women. This is the XV century equivalent of a SS or KGB orgy or frat reunion, far from the public eye. If you understand that this Oprichnina of Ivan is the prototype of the modern Secret State Police you'll see the "musical scene" in its true meaning.
Not mentioning that Fyodor sings his "joyful" song about the "uninvited guests", who break the gates in two, take the golden goblets, and set the chambers on fire when leaving, in a rather menacing manner
Совершенно согласна. Радости там нет никакой. Похоже на сатанинскую пляску. Улыбка Басманова не добрая, а зловещая. Переходящая тут же в жестокое выражение лица.
lam from India
one of my favdirector
Love Russian
From now on I will be like you call me
Fearsome look
Sound is not good
"evict russians to asian steppes" hahahah...
excessive cunning power-hungry men who shelter themselves in the houses/temples/words of religions...
16th or 21th Century, the savage Westerners never change
We think the same of you.😂😂😂
@@MichaelKurse how so? We defended ourselves in the 16th Century, we are still defending ourselves. We have to fight just to be considered humans. We must fight just to be allowed to exist. You were always the invader, we were always the defender
Russia has always been an imperial power, who expanded. How do you think you ended up across 11 time zones? America came to your defense in WW2, but you hate us because we weren't going to let you take over Europe.
@@НиколайРоманов-л6ю My Russian friend, you are just losing energy: BEASTS & GANGSTERS (West) could never speak the language of humans (Russians)
Likewise handsome and talented actor who plAys false tsar vladimir andreevich should be a very famous rock singer from denmArk
9:14 Anakin Skywalker as (Darth Vader) is a Ivan left Side kkk
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