my mom is an ISFP and she's incredibly intellectual and i learned the hard way that Fi is intelligence undervalued by society and should not be bashed as much as it is bashed in mbti community. like holy shit. seriously.
My brother is an infp and i'm an infj. What i have learned is that infps stand up for themselves ONLY when THEIR beliefs are questioned. They get labeled as pushovers when they don't stand up for themselves in situations where society says they should do so. Infps don't follow the "social rules". So in situations where they are suppose to act like a macho guy, they simply don't; this is where I believe infps get labeled as "weak". But i can assure you they are not weak in any way, just considerate of other people.
INFP: I feel the same way. However a better way to put it would be that I will not insert myself unless it is truly needed or one of my core values are in jeopardy. Basically we would rather have patience and observe, then take the wrong action to soon.
I think this is because they weigh everything out in their head. They go ''is this worth disturbing my inner peace to argue about?'' and if it isn't they won't bother.
I think INTPs of the worst feeling type... worse than INTJs like so many complain... but I totally get an INFP.... certainly. INTPs are for me certainly the most clueless type (that's maybe the reason it's called the Neo type)
Things that anger other people do not necessarily anger me. Things that anger me do not necessarily anger other people. This is my observation as an INFP.
Thank you for making this. I've always been irritated by the way people categories INFPs into being either depressive, pathetic, people who can't think logically or accomplish anything, or the opposite where we are this manic pixie dream girl stereotype.
The important thing to remember about MBTI is that it's easy to mistype given the state of mind you are in at that time. When I've had a good time, I score as assertive ESTP. When I've felt suicidally depressed, I score as turbulent INFP. My common score overall is ISFJ, but frankly i think I'm more like an ISFP. I think this is one of the reasons why psychiatrists/psychologists don't take it seriously. I met one guy who was easily INFP. Perfectly confident guy. He was not depressed, weak or submissive in anyway. He was really gentle with animals, very spiritual, and if anyone threatened him (he's 6ft 1'' and built like a tank) he'd just smile it off. What I found unusual about him is that he had his own code, and he stuck to that no matter what.
The Real Mr J. you're either not honest w your MBTI answers... or not honest here. Or you're psycho. somewhere you're a liar... most likely an extravert. No judgement. just thought you should know. ok moving on.
The Real Mr J. lol. doesn't matter, buddy. You lying to make a point. And it's okay. Just thought you should know. And unless the first thought was pm'd directly to ur online consciousness... I don't see how you could be so high on your feeble horse... moving on. Thanks for the stories though! Estf infp when suicidal thinks it is something dun dun dun...LIAR!! this is me being an audience. you clearly wanted one.
Victor Lockwood sure. because MY personality switches up depending on my feelings? you confusing me. LOL. Anywho, I can see that you as well probably resolved that emotional reactions to the space is your entire personality and not a reflection of your personality engaging with many variable things... consult a book. BAI!
The thing he mentions about infps and isfps being jaded is so spot on! As an infp every new group's first impression of me is being distant and reserved.
I am an INFP, and thank you for validating the fact that we're not all the huggy , touchy - feely type. I know I'm not, with me affection is very selective.
INFP here. This is the same crap the has frustrated me and this guy gets it. I cannot tell you how often people tell me I look distant, cold, or more recently, somber. Since I get this feedback so often I've known for a while that there's a disconnect between the way I look outwardly versus the way I am inwardly. I'm actually friendly but people think I look mean and standoffish. So all this crap about INFP being soft and mushy are clearly from people who don't actually know very many INFPs. They also love to say how lovey dovey we are but my fe mom always complain that I'm unaffectionate. It's just that I'm not outwardly affectionate with hugs and all that (I hate excessive hugs, kisses, etc). However, I love showing my affection by helping people. It's just a different style of showing affection. Nor am I a pushover and all that jazz. Anyway, I am a mushy person but only those closest to me know that. Thanks for this video!
I get that too.I,ve been told to smile more at times.i've been told i look sad or angry when i'm just thinking/relaxing. I was also wondering why i've never felt very open with hugs.Maybe it's not something comes naturally to me. You can hug me,i probably won't mind,but i tend not to do it myself.And it's not that i don't care.
Im INFP and Im feeling exactly the same...I never hug or kisses unless it's come from other first.and people always told me why I have "killer/serious face" when actually Im just thinking or lost in though.I love people but rather keep that feeling to myself or helping them with their difficulty instead of express it all out. I also setup a firm moral value.Thank you guys, very spot on.
kyaira benoit I am in the exactly situation everybody thinks I am mean bad without emotions always telling me to smile. I wanna change that, my mom tells me that's why I haven't had a boyfriend 😒
That's because INFP's want it to mean something and not just be what you do for social grace. Although, they will do that but it's not what they prefer.
GyroLamb+ TOTALLY! I (an INFP) actually have a bit of an aversion to "social hugging"...you know, out of some social expectation, or when it's considered "appropriate" socially, but I love to hug people I'm authentically feeling close to. And you're right, that I WILL hug "socially" (which doesn't kill me) just because it's easier and kinder than explaining that it feels a bit like a deception/lie....
Trust an ENTJ to know that Fi stands for conviction and integrity, not being a cutesy fuzz ball. Though I will be a cutesy fuzz ball when I feel like it.
I'm ISFP and I get annoyed by the perception that ISFPs are airheads. That's simply not true. The reality is that ISFPs intrinsically link thoughts with ACTIONS whereas INFPs intrinsically link thoughts with words. When explaining something, ISFPs would rather SHOW you what they mean, while INFPs have no problem explaining something verbally. This explains why ISFPs tend to be artists and INFPs tend to be authors. As an ISFP, I sometimes have trouble putting my thoughts into words, which is why I'm sometimes misunderstood. It's not that I lack knowledge, it's that I don't always know how to explain it verbally. Look up interviews with notable ISFPs such as Jessica Alba and Lana Del Rey and you'll see how ISFPs take pauses when speaking in order to access their introverted intuition. This makes ISFPs seem like airheads, but that's not the case at all.
I love that Jasper! (I'm an INFP). I love your comment and the distinction between the two INFP and ISFP. It's funny because I know an ISFP I had a crush on and it was because he would make videos and I felt like with my Fi, I could tell what he meant by it for himself in a deeper way. He was showing us what he meant through the videos. It was beautiful. I could always tell how intelligent he was and deep he was through his art. And in conversation, he never seemed incompetent in words but I wouldn't say he gravitated towards words particularly. Action was much preferred to describe what was going on in his heart and mind instead for sure.
I agree with that and I think I can add that ( at least for me) as an infp I am good with words but not verbally it’s really hard for me and many times I am misunderstood too I am actually good when I’m writing, ppl get to know me via texting not speaking. And I think both types are really good at art but infps are just so random like I wanna try everything and every minute I come up with a new concept and I wanna draw and sing and idk write a story about it at the same time because of my ne but isfps are so focused that I sometimes envy them 😁
INFP here. One of your last sentences is so utterly spot on. It's so true that I will be empathetic and attuned to a person's inner workings, if I care enough about them. Most other people don't get that sort of attention from me. I've had quite a rough upbringing which stifled my capacity for intimacy and compassion early on, which is why as a teenager I often typed INTJ. But that was merely a mask. My first relationship brought out all the qualities that I so long hid from people and today, I've developed many of my functions, even my inferior Te. I'm very observant and I'm a restless critical and lateral thinker, constantly pondering my own feelings and the motives of others, but that does not make me sappy in the least. I'm very quiet and understated about my feelings, however comfortable with showing vulnerability which in turn draws people to me, as it makes me come across as very inclusive and understanding. To most people I am an extremely intense, somewhat enigmatic and quixotic but always authentic individual and noone would accuse me of being maudlin or sappy.
Plus I love how he understands that its exhausting, I dont think an INFP could give everyone that attention without quickly turning into a dried up husk and going all hermit...
I am laughing as you speak because you make a few good points. For one, pushover I have never been, but people always took me for one. As an INFP, I give people the benefit of the doubt and a LOT of mercy because the hell I can rain down on them is swift, thorough, and extreme, and there is no benefit to anyone for me to hurt others without reasons that my value system confirmed. I've always known that my feelings could be dangerous, because I love hard and rage just as hard. My value system asks me to sacrifice some pride for the greater good, and my value system admires that I do so. I feel things extremely deeply, and if you want to see a tenacious adversary, threaten my ability to act on my ideals. For the most part though, I am a compassionate type personality, but I have fangs that come out to defend what should be defended. Who can truly call that weak? I call someone who WONT fight for what is right weak. I believe my emotions help me stay connected to humanity, because we are both heart and mind, while the society seems to value only the mind part. Compassion is not a weak trait. Compassion is a trait society has undermined as we continue to become more and more selfish. We think we don't need it, but we do. I agree that there is soooo much more that goes into a person than their myers-briggs, and that we can train ourselves to borrow traits to adapt to certain situations.
Your comment makes me want to cry, because you get it. I'm so glad you posted this. The truth in it is so beautiful and real. You are freaking amazing.
All I can say is that what you wrote completely resonates with me! Thanks for taking the time to wordsmith this aspect of INFPs! People who truly know me know all about my fangs!
Haha, they better recognize. They *really* don't want to push us too far. We don't mess with nobody; don't mess with us. We keep the peace, we help people, we give grace, we bend over backwards to make a way for others. We don't arm ourselves for the kinds of battles other fight, we are more healers on the battlefield, but even healers carry scalpels.
Thank you so much for this - being an INFP is so extremely frustrating if you're dealing with people who don't innately understand you. The feeling is - why on earth am I continuing to empathise with you when you couldn't/won't do the same for me.
A lot of emotion in this video... Its funny, once you actually get to know a Te-dom, you realize how emotional they become in certain triggering circustances, whereas if you only see them from the outside, they seem like solid brick walls...
I was literally thinking that and I bumped into your comment lol. Yeah they do have these sudden bursts of Fi which is extremely cute? Lol and also very valuable
Yes, as an Fi dom (that sounds bdsm) (my Ne just said that), but anyways yes, as an Fi dom, I love nothing more than when people whose emotions run deep come out and spill it. It is raw and real. I like it
I've noticed that I really cannot participate in gossip, even if the person being gossiped about is someone I can't really say I respect or care about. Having analyzed this I've came to the conclusion that for the most part, for me, it's not so much about caring for the person being gossiped about, but more about not being a gossiper; not being "that guy that talks crap behind people's backs". I have a preference for infp btw. I've sort of doubted my feeling preference because of things like this but I think Fi is evident here and this video has helped reveal that.
Probably the best overview of Fi I've ever heard, particularly with regard to INFPs. Thank you so much. As an INFP, I COMPLETELY share and understand your frustration with the stereotypes about INFPs and ISFPs usually articulated in videos and articles online. Fi dominant people are often misunderstood and misrepresented. There is so much strength that Fi dom persons have and develop within themselves even moreso than other types where the Feeling function is not primary and as such, taken for granted and underdeveloped. Furthermore, the intersection between type theory, astrology, culture etc accounts for such variety even among persons who share the same type. Hence, INFPs are not all the same. Thanks again.
ISFP is a hard ass Se dom. They don't want to hear anyone wax poetic or lament this or that. They tune you out if you try in my experience. I am INFJ and here's my experience if I even get thru 5% of my analysis and thought process on ANYTHING, particularly something of an "emotional" nature or a feeling about a decision or my "plan" to take action and how I arrived at that decision or opinion on the subject/problem/quandary--"Andrea, you wear me out. You make everything soooooo complicated! If I were you I'd just -- (insert easily arrived at action oriented decision) -- and then I'd be DONE with it and MOVE ON!" Or let's say this is a feely thing and MY FEELING (and therefor my starting point in finding my solution, is buried 30ft below the feelings of everyone else involved and the ramifications to those individuals. So the others must sifted thru and shaken out and properly considered and weighed before I can get to my own TRUE desire or feeling. She really loses it then. Now this ISFP IS my mother, so this is intimate level relationship dynamics. There is NO holding back out of respect for boundaries or social etiquette. "What are you even thinking??? WHO CARES what Dick and Jane feel??? It's YOUR decision. Why do you even worried about that?? Just do what YOU want to do." Conversation over. Se is instinct. An animal in the woods. Survival. Kill or be killed. Fi bypasses the feelies to arrive at instant self awareness and Se is ready at any moment to POUNCE. She can. And will. Quite an interesting function stack. Too bad her advice had never worked for me. Socially she is very refined. You'd never know how ready she is for battle if survival or personal values are at stake.
Thanks for the passionate resonance Andrea, we always welcome new perspectives on type and behaviors according, but remember, type isn't about behavior! -Danel
Thanks, Damon! Some people may think you got too angry here but this is pure passion. Awesome! I'm an INFP. It is ridiculous for anyone to think if you are 1 out of 16 MBTI types and then meet another of the same type that they will be the same. People grow up in different environments, have different experiences, ... have different DNA. Each human is unique. It baffles me how someone could think of something so illogical.
You are brilliant! Thank you for making this video. Thank you for emphasizing Fi is a VALUES function, not an EMOTIONAL response. I love that you differentiated Fi’s mod of feeling from Fe’s more touchy lovey mode of feeling because no one seem to realize that. As an INFP, you’ve made me feel seen and valued 💕
As an ENFP, I've often felt a need, growing up, to shove my feelings aside and to get in touch with a more rational and logical way of seeing the world. I've always been a strong, artistic, and emotional personality, and someone that is an absolute people person, getting along with nearly everyone. It actually wasn't until I came across Myers Briggs that I started to embrace that strong emotional side of me and found it to actually be quite a strength when dealing with people. Building up my Te these days, it's all starting to come full circle for me, in the importance of being in touch with emotions and with other people, especially when Te wants to get things done ;) Fi doms, or auxs, are not whimps. You speak the truth Chad! There is a burning strength and fire deep inside all of us feelers, and all it takes is for a passion of ours or cause, to bring that strength forward.
AMEN! My "sentiments" EXACTLY! The type of commentary you're describing reminds me of one of my own rants about my own father's personality. I was jokingly telling my son one day that my father must be the EXACT opposite type from me (I'm an INFP) and saying that he must be an ESTJ...I was new to MBTI and just figured this must be the exact opposite of an INFP. Then I looked it up and I honestly think that IS his type!. Dude, I'm right there with ya. I've learned to relax and find validation elsewhere, and you should too. There are probably more of us who appreciate Fi than you realize. The information you read on INFP is so spot on. I'm an INFP (female) and can be nothing less than fierce about my values and I'm internally stronger than anyone I know.... Including my "tough guy" father! :)
It's amazing to experience such an absolutely raw you. It's very honest. I love it. I've noticed that sometimes my most creatively raw self splurges out when I havnt slept and I'm demi-tired and I'm just a bag that was over-fluffed and it burst and splattered across the surface, in our personal creations.
Aw man, Damon, thank you so much for this. I feel so understood. I didn't even realize my own potential as an INFP watching this. I was always thought being deep was a nuisance and my insight into others was just my imagination. I am super into psychology and have been great about calling things out in my family members or people around me that I could see within them but they weren't able to see themselves. I always thought my guesses about what was going on was never really accurate and my family just saw me as "cutely defending them." But, in retrospect and with what you're saying here, I feel like it makes sense. I do empathetically experience what everyone is going through around me and can really pull out the truth of what's going on - whether it is a good thing about them or a negative thing. I usually avoid saying the negative thing, knowing that criticism would hurt myself if it was said to me. Wow, all I can say is thank you so much for standing up for us Fi dominant users. I feel so understood in a way I couldn't myself and literally, just now, I was getting depressed about how I don't understand what my strength is in this world as a Fi user. I was seeing every other user of a dom. cognitive function's strength, but not my own. I was feeling hopeless about a career direction and hopeless about what moral change I really can make in this world. I just clicked on your video and feel saved before I just got super bummed. So, thank you so much.
Fi and Te are two sides of the same coin. Fi is the indomitable fire that moves the machinery and orchestrations of Te. It's our underlying conscience that tries to grasp moral value at it's purest form separate from whatever values is within their local system or social construct. It is a seeker, a philosopher, an explorer of Truth (much like Ti). It uses Te to bring these discoveries to life. I always found it hypocritical when people admonish and deem weak the vulnerable sincerity and honesty of Fi in it's pursuit of true value but praise the strength of will that Te brings. Like where do you think that shit came from? Make no mistake, FPs and TJs can be very similar and will move heaven and earth if they have to if that means giving birth to a universal truth that soars high above us.
Thank you very much for making this video. The "putting myself in somebody's shoes" thing.. Oh my god. I never realized that when I put myself in somebody's shoes, I literally think of *MYSELF* being in their shoes, not how that person would've actually felt like. MBTI made me realize how people's way of thinking is very different.
Thank you so much for this! As an INFP, it frustrates me to think that Fi Doms get instantly passed off as these negative things. It's good to see someone using precise data taking a stand and validating the great things Fi Doms are capable of. You nailed it! Thank you for standing up for us and sharing your thoughts. ☺️
I'm an INFP and I really agree - our type is about depth, passions, ideals, meaning, inner values, compassion because we understand or try to understand the complexity of life..all the time!
Thank you for speaking out about it so passionately. As always quality, truth and striving for understanding. I've been feeling pissed off over TJ types constantly being called as emotionless. It's bullocks. If anything I have always felt that their feelings might be far more genuine and mean a lot more being able to also discern the situation from an objective, logical stand. Also, I got weirdly happy when you said you've been getting more in touch with your Fi. Yayyy, personal development and expansion. Wub Wub!!
I loved your video! it's pretty spot on. I'm INFP and my husband is ENTJ. So it's interesting seeing things from an ENTJ perspective. Continue using your ENTJ strengths for good :)
Thank you Chad. That was very positive and helpful. Most people from what I see don't bother to understand us like you do, it's more like they want INFPs either to shape up or shut up kind of thing. INFPs just like myself I find it easier to deal with ENTJs than ESTJs for a simple reason that intuitors explain their dream, their vision, they can sell you the idea that you will be motivated even before seeing it, while sensors are more like this is the real world, that's how it's done and I don't have time to explain it to you.
Yes, it's good you put out there that you have feelings too. They may not be your dominant decision making process but that does not mean you do not feel. I feel there is a massive misconception out there about feeling and thinking types. All humans have deep emotions unless they are psychopaths. With dominant feeling types feeling also manifests as a natural emotional intelligence. That to me is the only difference. Although with dominant feelers they also can not escape the emotions of those around them. When Fi is strong, putting yourself in other people's shoes comes naturally and a framework of their personality is also developed through repressed Ni. This is the "jaded" personality because the Infp is either feeling you out or blocking you. At least, thats my understanding. Isfps are probably similar with tertiary Ni. With Fe I think it's similar and the emotions come at you from every direction when you are in a room with people. Thanks for the video! :)
I love this! One thing I would say as an INFP is that I don't empathize with other people by referencing myself, not consciously anyways. I think of it as literally being them, and sometimes that means feeling something that I wouldn't normally feel, but maybe that is due to extroverted intuition being able to see all perspectives.
INFP here. I've never--to my knowledge--been labeled "weak", a "pushover", etc.--and those do not apply. A good label that gets at _some essence_ of why some may view INFPs as such is "nondirective". While I can be a passionate workaholic in the pursuit of a personally meaningful goal, in the absence of one, I can resemble a jellyfish. "He can sleep almost indefinitely, is probably the laziest person in England." -- Maureen Cleave on INFP John Lennon, 1966-- Heh ;)
Haha THIS VIDEO! I've never understood the sappy or hug everybody stereotype. I thought I was mistyped but I eventually learned the cognitive functions and it made sense. People see me more as an INFJ tho. I have asked someone was into MBTI which type she thought I was and she said INFJ. I think people who haven't spent the time to actually get to know us better think we're all softy, harmless and weird or that we're always talking about our feelings to EVERYONE. It's so interesting to see different enneagram types within each MBTI type. I am a INFP type 5 and when I meet other INFPs, I get all excited seeing our similarities and differences.
YES. Often what people perceive as being a "doormat," pushover, weak, pathetic comes down to one word: SELFLESSNESS. People forget that putting compromise and others' needs first is a huge part of being a strong leader. Those same people who call me a doormat forget that I was leading their group projects in college, even though I was the youngest and most shy person in the room. Today was a good day for a rant. ;)
This is the best explanation I've heard about INFP!! I'm not the touchy feelly type and my background was not too good. I operate more like an ESTJ in many areas of my life and yes I've been greatly misunderstood! Thank you so much!!
People always thought I was meek and easy going but OH are they wrong. I don't put up with shit if my value system is crossed. I alway liked to see the surprised look on their faces. When I was in elementary school I was scared of social interaction all the time, but when a friend of mine was being bullied behind her back I didn't hesitate to stand up from my seat and call the students on their crap. INFPs are like the quiet badasses of the world B)
We are the compassionate and sensitive warriors of the world, and we have the ability to lead through inspiration and love when we fully accept and realize who we are.
This is so insightful, and I thank you for it. I listened to this with my isfp daughter, and we laughed and laughed. My mother is an intp and she always says that I'm so analytical. She says that I don't share my feelings. I counter by saying that she doesn't share her Ti type interests easily either and I would like to know these things. I see us as two peas, just in different pods. :) Thanks for getting us. You're a gem.
I am so happy you made this video! I discovered MBTI about a year ago and found it fascinating, but I am at the point now where I am giving up on it because of all the INFP hate. I even read one article that INFPs do not use their Ne that much....completely discrediting them as intuitive. Such BS. There are just some types that are so favored while others just get stomped on. Thank you for trying to change stereotypes.
I love the beginning of the video. I know most infps will agree at least that finding their mbti type is the simplest/most accurate way of explaining who they are on the surface
I'm an INFP and recently had a falling out with a close INFJ friend of mine over social justice issues and now that I'm figuring out the difference between Fi and Fe our disconnect or lack of understanding of each other makes so much more sense. As an INFJ, her focus and values were based off of what she felt was objectively right or wrong or for the greater good and assumed that people felt a certain way because of the environment they came from rather than because of personal values or even that some people's personal values were straight up wrong or hurtful. Like she wouldn't associate with people if she found out they voted for Trump and would immediately say it was because they were racist, sexist, etc. but while I really don't like Trump and do agree that he was racist and sexist, I didn't feel offended or betrayed to find out people I knew had voted for him and tried to find reasons why they'd vote for him and had a hard time believing that every single Trump voter was just a bigot. Another friend of mine who's an Fi dom user and genuinely hated Trump actually got upset with one our friends for disowning another friend again because they had voted for Trump and went on about personal choice, and personal right to unpopular opinions, etc.
I'm a male INFP, and my Mother is INFJ. I love her and always will. But man we can clash. Not in a horrible way, just misunderstanding each others views. Politics for some strange reason we seem to not clash too much on. I learnt something today that has helped me get an understanding of what going on between us. It's the fact that a get say 10 perspective views of a give subject say, my Mother may get the same amount and pick out the best one or two. Where I as an INFP have trouble doing that as I have to view from all those positions and see that more than just 2 are valid, or worthy of consideration, as to not tread on toes or hurt feelings, or peoples sensibilities. Neither of us are wrong. I just feel she is taking less into consideration. I wouldn't even know where to being with her to broach this topic as I could see us going in circles. She's not as open as me, seems slightly more black and white. i just now that we will never quite meet in the middle unless she could stop to listen long enough and get to know me. I sure she knows me in a lot of ways, just doesn't fully understand me, and doesn't real care to know. which hurts a little as I write it. I will try again, she's done the test that's a start. Gave her a brief rundown of my type which nails me, for her to read when she likes. It's been over a month and she hasn't. I might just mention next time that it is important to me, it will take 5 to 10 mins max. If you do nothing else for me could you just do this.
I KNOW HOW YOU FREAKING FEEL. when people complain that infp's is such a bad type, like no it is not a bad type. It is an incredible type, there is something beautiful in it, just choose what one has.
Interestingly enough, my estj mother won't even believe that I'm a feeling dominated person (despite my explicitly saying so). Watching this video was entirely too self-validating it felt wrong. With my whole being, thank you.
Thanks for that :) As a INFP your spot on. I can also add that analyzing people and situations and getting through the day as a Fi type some of the more "Negative" things I have to say are a little valid but for VERY different reasons no one ever seems to get lol.This all stems from the fact that my energy gos into places you dont see. If my emotional needs arnt met if I dont have a support system, if I loose my self awareness and dont ask for what I need Im a disaster. Utterly completely useless drained getting by that any extra weight of expectation pressing down on me I cant cope with. And seeing me from the outside I see how that can be misconstrued in its nature. Or hard it is to motivate me, when I dont care I dont.. there is a LOT we dont care about, everyone talks about our passions but you whats even more powerful and frightening the larger list of crap we give zero fucks about. And that fill me with guilt for everyone I afflict, because Im misunderstood people dont know how to support me and without a little support my batteries get drained, and when that happens I go to a very dark place and see in excruciating detail how that hurts everyone stupid enough to get attached to me... I wish real life was like social media and I could firend or unfirend people on my terms. At my best you wouldn't believe how far just a little affection and consideration go's to charge my batteries, I will consistently move mountains and tell the sun where to set, close relationships are my passions as well I thrive on you if you manage to understand my very real if not met crippling needs. And at my worst I am this awful detached often indignant house cat type of animal that you project so much onto to me and expect something out of me I never was and I will wander through your life zero fucks. I think the real villains here is when they talk about us INFPs we are needy moody wrecks, with no affinity for societal idealizations in practice. And if you are going to sell the best of personality coaching special package life coach deal for $67.95 the only stuff you have to work with not deep and alienating to everyone else is up-selling some sugar coated fantasy where we are "sensitive" rather then brooding in emotional complexity, and our vivid imaginations (Never mind its more of a coping mechanism thats more of a controlled dissonance) To play up our good traits like how we thrive on inter-dependence and can draw limitless inhuman abilities and stamina from it, silence because we live in a culture that celebrates independence above all else. You got me ranting lol Im just going to stop here and leave it at I dont know havent talked seen or heard of a INFP that wasent in deep pain, or struggling to make some sort of piece with the world and we do this silently surrounded by people that care about us but never truly understand. We mature and thrive in the most crazy ways, like you said please give us a chance.
As someone who has a preference for using Fi. I am quite surprised that many sources portray it as making decision 'based on feelings'. I would, personally, explain it as follows; I think about what I find important in general. Based on that, I make a logical decision of what, following from those values/principles is the best thing to do. I do not focus on a goal (or my personal goal), so also not my own wanting or feeling. I think of what is important in generalities, this can actually mean that myself, or my whishes in a choice are less important than other people, processes, needs, etc. I really appreciate all your video's, thank you for sharing!
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THANK YOU. Seriously though at some point I was so sick of Myers briggs because some people use it to indulge their current ways of thinking about the world instead of expanding it, and to bastardize human complexity instead of actually getting a deeper understanding. Either it's people saying that INFP's are soft and dreamy all the time or it's INFP's who hate being held up to this standard disqualifying what can be seen as a suffocating stereotype by claiming that no, INFP's can be cold, unaffectionate, selfish people. MBTI is a tool. It is a way of getting to know people better. MBTI is not a person: a person is a complex mix of their past, their upbringing, their relationships, their beliefs, their race and class and age and the era they are born in and whatever else. As such, MBTI is a way fo understadning their behaviour and cognition. However, becasue the internet absolutely loves to fetishize things, MBTI encourages people to be lazy in how they regard people, so much so that if you realize your new friend is an INFP then you try to squeeze their behaviour into a box and treat them according to a 2 dimensional stereotype instead of as...well a complex human being. If you meet an INTJ you think oh well their probably cold, heartless encyclopedias so you relate with them on this basis rather than on the basis of how they actually are. MBTI can be an amazing way of growing and learning and expanding how we see the world and increasing the effectiveness of how we relate with people who are different from us, but it can be, and often is, grossly misused: it becomes an excuse to indulge in negative behaviours because hey that's typical of my type right? I'm a misunderstood INFP so i can feel persecuted and stifled when a well-meaning xNTJ gives me fair criticism right? Or I can disregard an INFP as overemotional when they make a non-logical ethical argument right? Or it can become a way to compartmentalize people and dehumanize them into a bunch of traits and stereotypes strung together. And then claim we know them so well because MBTI says so. -Ticked off INFP
As an Infp I can often see where people are coming from since I can put myself in their shoes. This makes it hard to get angry since I end up sympathizing with them which from the outside perspective may look like doormat behavior, as getting angry would be justified and appropriate in those situations. It's hard to sustain anger if you feel sympathy.
Dude thanks so much. I'm an INFP joining the Swedish army as a team leader in a few months. Never really quite understood how i could be INFP because I don't behave like people tell me I should. I finally feel understood again.
I'm glad you resonated with the content. Everyone is built differently, and that is more than okay, it is the ideal! You should join or multi chatrooms I feel like you would really like it! Thanks again for the feedback! -Daniel
MBTV Hi there.. I took the Mbti about 5 to 6 years ago and repeatedly got the INFJ result. Once I looked at the profile I immediately Identified with everything that I saw and felt a sense of relief because everything in my life started to make sense.. This was so huge for me and my self growth process being a truth-seeker! Recently I have started making TH-cam videos and what prompted me to make these videos had nothing to do with initially the mbti test, but I felt like since I was making videos it was a great platform to connect and also to express a lot of the things that I've experienced as being an infj in hopes of helping younger infjs due to our struggles especially with coping.. Recently a viewer of one of my videos was very adamant on their beliefs that I was an Infp.. Initially I was very irritated with their surety of the issue, especially knowing the type of person that I am, along with consistently getting the INFJ results, but most importantly as always with anything doing my research on Infjs and truly resonating with the profile description.. However my curiosity and being above all a truthseeker led me to start researching profile descriptions of Infp people and looking at different videos online.. Now I am myself a little confused because I also resonated with so much of the infp profile, the only difference for me that really stood out in my head was the fact that it seems that infjs are willing to blend in at all times above all just wanting to keep the peace and Harmony between people. I on the other hand do not like conflict and above all would like to keep the peace as well but not at the risk of just wanting to fit in or fit in just for the sake of wanting to get along just to get along, especially if core beliefs and values are compromised! I have seen and enjoyed many of your videos and you seem to be quite adept at what you do.. I would like to know how I would go about getting professionally tested and most of all and above all know the full truth with the hopes of continuously working on my self growth.. The only way to do that I believe is to have accurate information.. I will be uploading a video soon regarding this issue and then tracking this whole process.. Do you have any suggestions and or recommendations as to how I would go about having the professional testing done .. Thank you so much!!
As an INFP, part of the reason I only open up to select people has a lot to do with what you said about "living in empathy". When I connect with someone, I can't help but relate with them from their own shoes. Standing in a person's shoes exposes you to a flood of their life experiences, in the form of abstract feelings (juicy and delicious abstract feelings, just waiting to be explored and evaluated). Holding another person inside you is an intimate experience and can get unpleasant fast when you get to their less desireables. This includes people I have known forever. Connecting with anyone means being exposed not only to their present state, but all the conditions that lead to that state, and their potential futures based on their trajectory. It's a big freaking process. To clarify, for me it's crazy how complex this experience is. I may meet a person with an attractive shine in their eye, who seems a bit shy, but opens up to me. The moment I accept them into my space I am flooded with an intuitive download of their self. Perceiving them against what feels like their originating conditions; the flavor of shine in their eye clarifies from attractive to predatory. I start to smell that the shyness isn't genuine and the opening up has an undertone of being a game. Poof, I just introduced what a sociopath tastes like to my Si function forever...yuck. Worst part is, I realize immediately my intuition already warned me, but I just had to go tasting to make sure. There's no way to experience the true good of a person without the bad and connecting indiscriminately can end up a repugnant experience. I assume a well developed Fi (dunno, I'm new to this) understands that to see the true value of something, one must openly experience the whole of it. Chances are if I am not actively engaging a person, it's because I don't feel like ripping open my guts and having that person wear me like a sleeping bag. We can totally enjoy tea together though... you over there and me over here. I think it takes a tough person to live in the realms of feelings everyday, especially in the case of Si (again I'm assuming) where feelings are visceral. Thanks for your videos, you have helped me a lot in understanding this stuff!
God, that hit all my sensitive spots. All the worries of vulnerability of being open to others, and judging vs being judged back. Seeing all the goodness of humans and bad, inside others and yourself. When can we just be innocent again?
Just as an aside, I feel like most introverted functions are stubborn, not only Ni and Fi, but Ti and Si as well. There's something about their subjectivity that makes it closed off to change. Meanwhile, extraverted functions are all objective and much more open to outer stimuli. Feel free to argue, but it's as if "open-minded" is always referring to the extraverted funtions.
But perhaps it is that subjectivity of the introverted functions is the reason why we humens have them. With out thone functions we would just be robots and without the extraverted fuctions we would be animals.
Jhante Collins Open-minded is not necessarily willing to change for others, most introverts are open-minded in the sense that they try to understand and accept the difference. But they mostly won't change just because it makes others happy, there should be a much more logic reasons and methods that they can accept. If no compromise can be made, I think they'll prefer to go on separate ways.
I'm very open minded in the sense that I can see the other persons perspectives and value it as subjective truth, when it comes to changing my own perspective it's not that I'm closed off to change but it takes time and I won't fake agreement to be liked, so I may seem stubborn (Infp).
Having ideals and personal ethics and values and upholding them no matter what is definitely a strength. Remember it means no matter what. I'm a Fi user. And I've definitely had times where I was at odds with everybody else around me. Yet I just held out on my own and survived opposition and strife without giving in.
Thank you very much! You're saying what I've been feeling for a long damn time! I want to scream! I'm an ISFP but I'm also a 4 or so I'm told. So I'm a double effed up person! I'm so sick of this crap! P.S I think I have just had a weight lifted by you and it makes me "feel"(lol) like I love you! Ahhh...I can breathe again!
spot on. infp -a but i can put on a fight if i have to. and thats the difference. HAVE to. nor am i lost in my dreamworld, but i love to have one. you are so right. unfortunately...some other types love to go and comment mean stuff, especially where there is not much feeling involved, and you know what? i don't give a shit. i also learned not to be shy around people. not giving a shit doesn't mean i do not notice, it just means i decided that other peoples opinions don't affect me .... because how i react is up to me, what others give out is up to them.
Thanks for the compassion and understanding. I think it's because we don't actually care much for the physical world and established social norms. We are deeply value based and highly respect the opinions of those we care about, but can appear blazé towards those we don't ("well fuck you then", or "whatever I don't care what you think"). Where was I going.... So if we appear weak, lazy etc, it's just that we don't care enough to expend effort. But we're insanely devoted to helping those we care about
This was refreshing to hear. I am also tired of reading all that bullshit. I'm not automatically an angel towards everyone because I got "INFP" on a freaking test. I think one of the most interesting and fascinating people I've read about is Marlon Brando, he to me seems like an INFP. He was so misunderstood. Was labeled cold and narcissistic by some but that was how he could be PERCEIVED as when he fought for his "rights". Marlon could at moments be extremely charismatic, I think that many INFPs potentially has that charismatic inner flame in them. How many here has daydreamed about having some sort of speech where you stand up for what you believe in front of a crowd or group? All the types has potential to give a lot. It's really a cliché but in a way, we all complete each other.
Also regarding some of the comments, i know an ENTJ enneagram 2; not an integrated 8, a 2. It is totally possible, as with any ennagram-mbti combination.
VERY WELL SAID. Wow, that was different but such a great video. :) And despite being tired you still explained it all pretty well. A lot good points were made that gave me, and probably others, some clarity. Thank you!
ROFL almost choked on my instant noodles laughing at the example about punching a select group of people in the face - something that my ENTJ husband would be onboard with if it benefits the larger group as a whole. As an INFP my first thought was ‘dang that’s going to hurt a lot’ I don’t think I want to be punched in the face.
infp here,in high school,i was pretty bad,did drugs,got into fights,and use to hang out with gangsters,well untill i dropped out of high school i calmed down and took another road lol.
i am an Aquarian infp enneagram 4 but have come to learn through my inner healing & growth how i am a part of everyone and everything… with my strong introverted feeling and healing my suffering? My extroverted intuition has strengthened…
you are right. im an infj, jumping between infp, isfp and enfj. as i wrote somewhere else, its like throwing things into a box, beginning with things that are most valuable emotionally, ending with glitzy and kitsch stuff you cant get rid of and find somehow cute on top. close the box, shake it. thats who you are. there is no seperation between the stuff, formerly at the bottom of the box and the things nobody sees value in, formerly at the top. traits jumbled together, mixing. guess its a bit of a weird metaphor which maybe hard to understand for most people :D
I know an INFP quite well (worked together closely in a same room for months).They are like what things makes other feel through her own subjectivity. As an objectively oriented person (extravert and Fe valuing type) it looks perplexing. It is quite funny how much easier my interaction was between Fe types than hers because I gave the Ti clarity what makes them feel secured. Yes, it is wrong to put your own preference above others. Fe types: Likes clarity. I know one who couldn't handle large numbers until I started to give Ti explanations. Huge progress in very little time. I just gave her some of my own abstractions. From hysteria to calmness in no time. Fi would drive her mad at there. Te types: Are probably looking for some affirming ethical Fi guidance through local decisions. Me as Ti person sees the ethics as universal justice to which adhere to without personal sentiments and therefore do not see much use for Fi.
I think you should start understanding that we do not use functions one at a time as what you seem to be implying, and singling out functions as descriptions or adjectives for people behavior is very very off. You cannot use MBTI with observing behavior because it is a personal experience you can't be aware of without the other person perspective. I would suggest using MBTI material to further focus your own understanding separate from people, sounds like you are only creating more bias to types and stereotyping with functions then you are actually understanding people. You could always work with Damon as well, he is an MBTI master practitioner.
"Grow a pair and get over it" - LOL :D This is a great explanation of the difference between Fe and Fi. Only one I have heard that makes sense to me. Just out of curiosity, since you briefly referenced Enneagram, what is yours?
I can usually put myself in other people’s shoes, and if I can’t, I remind myself that there has to be a reason why X person is feeling this way. What they are feeling is real to them and I will not invalidate how they feel no matter what. It can be very damaging to a person to invalidate their experience or their feelings and when someone does invalidate them, they usually don’t know the whole story. Just theorizing, but in my personal experience, it seems like Fe is less accurate because when an Fe user sees that I am sad, they immediately want to “change” my sadness rather than allow me to process or vent. ~INFP
1. What would you recommend is the best way for me to determine my Enneagram tritype? And how did you figure out your tritype? 2. I'm confused about my MBTI type. I think I'm ENFJ, but if I go off the functions I relate to (not necessarily in this order) Ni and Fi and Ti and Se. But nobody has that combination, so I must be mis-identifying one of my functions. I'm positive I'm an "NF" type at least, but being only mildly extroverted and basically on the border between Judging and Perceiving is perhaps why it's hard for me to know my functions. Honestly, I could even see myself perhaps as an INFP as a young kid who, over time, changed into an ENFJ as she got older. Do you think that's possible? and/or likely?
+Uniquely Heather Holly (Singer-Songwriter) - Enneagram - It's pretty easy, look at all three centers (Head, Gut, Heart) And pick the type that best represents you in each center. Then lead it with your dominant. For Example: I am an 8, Then I relate to 3 more than 7, so I'm an 837. To verify, I cross reference the book Enneagram Tritypes. (Below) (www.scribd.com/doc/239698153/Tritype-Booklet-PDF) MBTI - No, types do not change. It's like saying, "I was once left handed, and now I'm right handed." That doesn't happen. However, I can LEARN to use my right hand, but the natural preference always remains. I'd recommend you get typed professionally (by someone you learn to trust, but don't know). And INFPs and ENFJs are TOTAL opposites in the sense of cognitive preferences. So, I would say this is very, very, unlikely.
+MBTV Oh I didn't realize it had to be one from each center; that makes it a little simpler. And I just read that PDF link; it's very informative! Thank you! I think I'm 469 The Seeker.
I've read that Hitler was an INFP. Remember Adolf Hitler? He wasn't a kissy huggy type. I think he was more like a paranoid sociopath type. I don't identify with paranoid sociopaths, but I'm an INFP. And I'm not a kissy huggy type either!
True Generations no offense or rudeness at all. I can be too blunt. I apologize if I was. May I email you instead? I would love to give helpful feedbacks as a concrete person (seem so far SLI).
I know this is random, but am i the only on who hates that term "in your feelings"? That saying is so disrespectful. You are a human being you are supposed to feel. It's part of what makes you human and who you are. They put it down as negative, and I just don't see why. Why would you ever want to hinder someone from being and expressing themselves? Anyway thank you for this amazing video! As an infp it made me very happy to have someone finally understand us. You are hilarious by the way! I hope your sleep was amazing.
There are so many negative stereotypes about the various mbti and enneagram types, and people in general. If individuals make judgements on false and inaccurate information, that's their loss. Why so angry about this particular topic?
I know an intp who was about to block me because he thought i ate ice cream that was not vegan. Fi dominant people or Fi users maybe in general are actually quite freaking brave and honest to humane feelings.
Well the reason I am emotionless because first, most of the time I didn't feel what people feel. Secondly, I did not know what to react and lastly I am sometimes lazy to show emotion/reaction. I appreciate all kind things that people do to me but I spotanously didn't show any emotion or reaction. I didn't do that intentionally.. its just.. thats how I am and its hard change. I know its rude and impolite but I can't help myself to change it XD. I let people do the same things to me because I know I deserve that. I am not cold person. I am just emotionless. I try to be friendly with people but its hard cause I'm very lazy.
In general, Fe is more apt to not color what they see in others emotional outlook with personal opinion(s) but it can happen! And some Fe users are worse about this than others and they are convinced they're right! Fi can defo misread anyone... Fi users and Fe users and thinkers hahhaha. Yup. I can do that (INFP here). I'm going on the theory that Fi is not that fabu at accurately reading others right off the bat. It takes me a while. I observe over time to see what I think now that I'm older and have caught myself being wrong even about things I've thought for long periods. I've reconsidered and had to reorient myself about others that I know irl. And Fe users can end up having to do the same thing. All it takes is misinterpreting. After all, it's inside someone else and what people reveal is not necessarily what's up inside of them. That's theirs and they can use it and present it as they please as well as how they don't even intend to and have no idea they're coming off some particular way. Ok so. That ^^^ was written by Fi. Right there. Fe users are more apt to misread Fi ime. And Fi is apt to misread at first and then if they stay open long enough they can true up what their perceptions are pulling in for info with their judgments of what is going on.
Extroversion ~= objective, but limited to context ~= 'consensus reality' ~= breadth ~= 'more good'. Introversion ~= subjective, but independent of context ~= 'universal absolutes' ~= depth ~= 'less bad'. Ti types wanting to understand Fi, should think first how they relate to their Fe, parallel it to Te (which they should mostly comprehend, even if they don't like it), then track back to see Fi/Te working, overall, in a similar fashion to Ti/Fe. Easier said than done, but it's how I made myself 'get' (but not like) Ti/Fe (INFP)
I don't see any MBTI related problems to be that big of a deal. Majority of people don't even know what MBTI is and usually don't care. So what if *some* people think INFPs are crybabies, most people aren't going to know.
Lol I feel like if I was in a workplace with an estj boss who was putting me down, and you were another superior (yeah I hate that word), you would walk up in front of him and start ranting at him with some influential speech about how they dont notice my gifts... and that I should be respected.
Feelings will never be truly understood by a Thinker simply because Feeling is opinionated and logic is proven. No argument about feelings can lead anywhere aside from "My opinion is this while your opinion is that". Feeling is what makes us human and what makes us different from one another but it is not the function to use as a decision making judging function due to the result often being less efficient and opinionated rather than analytical and thought out. The reason that feelers are capable of making good decisions using feeling as a judging function is simply because they were able to connect and to make another person feel good, the receiving person then in turn rewards the feeler which is seen as a successful decision. It does not work in fields of logic whereby you "Feel" that 2+2=4.
my mom is an ISFP and she's incredibly intellectual and i learned the hard way that Fi is intelligence undervalued by society and should not be bashed as much as it is bashed in mbti community. like holy shit. seriously.
My brother is an infp and i'm an infj. What i have learned is that infps stand up for themselves ONLY when THEIR beliefs are questioned. They get labeled as pushovers when they don't stand up for themselves in situations where society says they should do so. Infps don't follow the "social rules". So in situations where they are suppose to act like a macho guy, they simply don't; this is where I believe infps get labeled as "weak". But i can assure you they are not weak in any way, just considerate of other people.
what you said was so spot on. like you just made my day thank you!
INFP: I feel the same way. However a better way to put it would be that I will not insert myself unless it is truly needed or one of my core values are in jeopardy. Basically we would rather have patience and observe, then take the wrong action to soon.
I think this is because they weigh everything out in their head. They go ''is this worth disturbing my inner peace to argue about?'' and if it isn't they won't bother.
GyroLamb+ ....and there you go again....EXACTAMUNDO! Get outta my head! lol
I think INTPs of the worst feeling type... worse than INTJs like so many complain... but I totally get an INFP.... certainly. INTPs are for me certainly the most clueless type (that's maybe the reason it's called the Neo type)
Things that anger other people do not necessarily anger me. Things that anger me do not necessarily anger other people. This is my observation as an INFP.
Yeah same.
I'm an ENTJ and I understand you
Your observation is valid to the extreme, at least in my case. I could provide any amount of examples. I, too, and an INFP.
Exactly! 😁
Thank you for making this. I've always been irritated by the way people categories INFPs into being either depressive, pathetic, people who can't think logically or accomplish anything, or the opposite where we are this manic pixie dream girl stereotype.
The important thing to remember about MBTI is that it's easy to mistype given the state of mind you are in at that time.
When I've had a good time, I score as assertive ESTP. When I've felt suicidally depressed, I score as turbulent INFP.
My common score overall is ISFJ, but frankly i think I'm more like an ISFP.
I think this is one of the reasons why psychiatrists/psychologists don't take it seriously.
I met one guy who was easily INFP. Perfectly confident guy. He was not depressed, weak or submissive in anyway. He was really gentle with animals, very spiritual, and if anyone threatened him (he's 6ft 1'' and built like a tank) he'd just smile it off.
What I found unusual about him is that he had his own code, and he stuck to that no matter what.
The Real Mr J. you're either not honest w your MBTI answers...
or not honest here. Or you're psycho. somewhere you're a liar...
most likely an extravert. No judgement. just thought you should know.
ok moving on.
The Real Mr J. lol. doesn't matter, buddy.
You lying to make a point. And it's okay.
Just thought you should know. And unless the first thought was pm'd directly to ur online consciousness... I don't see how you could be so high on your feeble horse...
moving on. Thanks for the stories though! Estf infp when suicidal thinks it is something dun dun dun...LIAR!!
this is me being an audience. you clearly wanted one.
+Fischer You need help bro!
Victor Lockwood sure. because MY personality switches up depending on my feelings? you confusing me. LOL.
Anywho, I can see that you as well probably resolved that emotional reactions to the space is your entire personality and not a reflection of your personality engaging with many variable things...
consult a book. BAI!
The thing he mentions about infps and isfps being jaded is so spot on! As an infp every new group's first impression of me is being distant and reserved.
I am an INFP, and thank you for validating the fact that we're not all the huggy , touchy - feely type. I know I'm not, with me affection is very selective.
INFP here. This is the same crap the has frustrated me and this guy gets it. I cannot tell you how often people tell me I look distant, cold, or more recently, somber. Since I get this feedback so often I've known for a while that there's a disconnect between the way I look outwardly versus the way I am inwardly. I'm actually friendly but people think I look mean and standoffish. So all this crap about INFP being soft and mushy are clearly from people who don't actually know very many INFPs. They also love to say how lovey dovey we are but my fe mom always complain that I'm unaffectionate. It's just that I'm not outwardly affectionate with hugs and all that (I hate excessive hugs, kisses, etc). However, I love showing my affection by helping people. It's just a different style of showing affection. Nor am I a pushover and all that jazz. Anyway, I am a mushy person but only those closest to me know that. Thanks for this video!
I get that too.I,ve been told to smile more at times.i've been told i look sad or angry when i'm just thinking/relaxing.
I was also wondering why i've never felt very open with hugs.Maybe it's not something comes naturally to me.
You can hug me,i probably won't mind,but i tend not to do it myself.And it's not that i don't care.
Im INFP and Im feeling exactly the same...I never hug or kisses unless it's come from other first.and people always told me why I have "killer/serious face" when actually Im just thinking or lost in though.I love people but rather keep that feeling to myself or helping them with their difficulty instead of express it all out. I also setup a firm moral value.Thank you guys, very spot on.
kyaira benoit I am in the exactly situation everybody thinks I am mean bad without emotions always telling me to smile. I wanna change that, my mom tells me that's why I haven't had a boyfriend 😒
That's because INFP's want it to mean something and not just be what you do for social grace. Although, they will do that but it's not what they prefer.
GyroLamb+ TOTALLY! I (an INFP) actually have a bit of an aversion to "social hugging"...you know, out of some social expectation, or when it's considered "appropriate" socially, but I love to hug people I'm authentically feeling close to. And you're right, that I WILL hug "socially" (which doesn't kill me) just because it's easier and kinder than explaining that it feels a bit like a deception/lie....
Trust an ENTJ to know that Fi stands for conviction and integrity, not being a cutesy fuzz ball. Though I will be a cutesy fuzz ball when I feel like it.
Hi INTJ & INFP Coffee! I agree. INFP here.
I'm ISFP and I get annoyed by the perception that ISFPs are airheads. That's simply not true. The reality is that ISFPs intrinsically link thoughts with ACTIONS whereas INFPs intrinsically link thoughts with words. When explaining something, ISFPs would rather SHOW you what they mean, while INFPs have no problem explaining something verbally. This explains why ISFPs tend to be artists and INFPs tend to be authors. As an ISFP, I sometimes have trouble putting my thoughts into words, which is why I'm sometimes misunderstood. It's not that I lack knowledge, it's that I don't always know how to explain it verbally. Look up interviews with notable ISFPs such as Jessica Alba and Lana Del Rey and you'll see how ISFPs take pauses when speaking in order to access their introverted intuition. This makes ISFPs seem like airheads, but that's not the case at all.
Isfps are closest to infps and easiest to work along with.
I love that Jasper! (I'm an INFP). I love your comment and the distinction between the two INFP and ISFP. It's funny because I know an ISFP I had a crush on and it was because he would make videos and I felt like with my Fi, I could tell what he meant by it for himself in a deeper way. He was showing us what he meant through the videos. It was beautiful. I could always tell how intelligent he was and deep he was through his art. And in conversation, he never seemed incompetent in words but I wouldn't say he gravitated towards words particularly. Action was much preferred to describe what was going on in his heart and mind instead for sure.
I agree with that and I think I can add that ( at least for me) as an infp I am good with words but not verbally it’s really hard for me and many times I am misunderstood too I am actually good when I’m writing, ppl get to know me via texting not speaking. And I think both types are really good at art but infps are just so random like I wanna try everything and every minute I come up with a new concept and I wanna draw and sing and idk write a story about it at the same time because of my ne but isfps are so focused that I sometimes envy them 😁
Brilliant explanation. Thank you for sharing. I wish everyone understood this well what it's like to be an INFP.
INFP here. One of your last sentences is so utterly spot on. It's so true that I will be empathetic and attuned to a person's inner workings, if I care enough about them. Most other people don't get that sort of attention from me. I've had quite a rough upbringing which stifled my capacity for intimacy and compassion early on, which is why as a teenager I often typed INTJ. But that was merely a mask. My first relationship brought out all the qualities that I so long hid from people and today, I've developed many of my functions, even my inferior Te. I'm very observant and I'm a restless critical and lateral thinker, constantly pondering my own feelings and the motives of others, but that does not make me sappy in the least. I'm very quiet and understated about my feelings, however comfortable with showing vulnerability which in turn draws people to me, as it makes me come across as very inclusive and understanding. To most people I am an extremely intense, somewhat enigmatic and quixotic but always authentic individual and noone would accuse me of being maudlin or sappy.
Plus I love how he understands that its exhausting, I dont think an INFP could give everyone that attention without quickly turning into a dried up husk and going all hermit...
I am laughing as you speak because you make a few good points. For one, pushover I have never been, but people always took me for one. As an INFP, I give people the benefit of the doubt and a LOT of mercy because the hell I can rain down on them is swift, thorough, and extreme, and there is no benefit to anyone for me to hurt others without reasons that my value system confirmed. I've always known that my feelings could be dangerous, because I love hard and rage just as hard. My value system asks me to sacrifice some pride for the greater good, and my value system admires that I do so. I feel things extremely deeply, and if you want to see a tenacious adversary, threaten my ability to act on my ideals. For the most part though, I am a compassionate type personality, but I have fangs that come out to defend what should be defended. Who can truly call that weak? I call someone who WONT fight for what is right weak. I believe my emotions help me stay connected to humanity, because we are both heart and mind, while the society seems to value only the mind part. Compassion is not a weak trait. Compassion is a trait society has undermined as we continue to become more and more selfish. We think we don't need it, but we do. I agree that there is soooo much more that goes into a person than their myers-briggs, and that we can train ourselves to borrow traits to adapt to certain situations.
Your comment makes me want to cry, because you get it. I'm so glad you posted this. The truth in it is so beautiful and real. You are freaking amazing.
All I can say is that what you wrote completely resonates with me! Thanks for taking the time to wordsmith this aspect of INFPs! People who truly know me know all about my fangs!
Haha, they better recognize. They *really* don't want to push us too far. We don't mess with nobody; don't mess with us. We keep the peace, we help people, we give grace, we bend over backwards to make a way for others. We don't arm ourselves for the kinds of battles other fight, we are more healers on the battlefield, but even healers carry scalpels.
Scalpels. Yes.
SimeonIsMy Name+ Ditto Naya Ford's comment. Beautiful and sooooo true.
Thank you so much for this - being an INFP is so extremely frustrating if you're dealing with people who don't innately understand you. The feeling is - why on earth am I continuing to empathise with you when you couldn't/won't do the same for me.
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A lot of emotion in this video... Its funny, once you actually get to know a Te-dom, you realize how emotional they become in certain triggering circustances, whereas if you only see them from the outside, they seem like solid brick walls...
Val I'm having this trouble with "friends". My brothers understand me best.
Te dom can be fuzzballs if you get them privately.
I was literally thinking that and I bumped into your comment lol. Yeah they do have these sudden bursts of Fi which is extremely cute? Lol and also very valuable
Yes, as an Fi dom (that sounds bdsm) (my Ne just said that), but anyways yes, as an Fi dom, I love nothing more than when people whose emotions run deep come out and spill it. It is raw and real. I like it
I've noticed that I really cannot participate in gossip, even if the person being gossiped about is someone I can't really say I respect or care about. Having analyzed this I've came to the conclusion that for the most part, for me, it's not so much about caring for the person being gossiped about, but more about not being a gossiper; not being "that guy that talks crap behind people's backs". I have a preference for infp btw. I've sort of doubted my feeling preference because of things like this but I think Fi is evident here and this video has helped reveal that.
Probably the best overview of Fi I've ever heard, particularly with regard to INFPs. Thank you so much. As an INFP, I COMPLETELY share and understand your frustration with the stereotypes about INFPs and ISFPs usually articulated in videos and articles online. Fi dominant people are often misunderstood and misrepresented. There is so much strength that Fi dom persons have and develop within themselves even moreso than other types where the Feeling function is not primary and as such, taken for granted and underdeveloped. Furthermore, the intersection between type theory, astrology, culture etc accounts for such variety even among persons who share the same type. Hence, INFPs are not all the same. Thanks again.
ISFP is a hard ass Se dom. They don't want to hear anyone wax poetic or lament this or that. They tune you out if you try in my experience. I am INFJ and here's my experience if I even get thru 5% of my analysis and thought process on ANYTHING, particularly something of an "emotional" nature or a feeling about a decision or my "plan" to take action and how I arrived at that decision or opinion on the subject/problem/quandary--"Andrea, you wear me out. You make everything soooooo complicated! If I were you I'd just -- (insert easily arrived at action oriented decision) -- and then I'd be DONE with it and MOVE ON!" Or let's say this is a feely thing and MY FEELING (and therefor my starting point in finding my solution, is buried 30ft below the feelings of everyone else involved and the ramifications to those individuals. So the others must sifted thru and shaken out and properly considered and weighed before I can get to my own TRUE desire or feeling. She really loses it then. Now this ISFP IS my mother, so this is intimate level relationship dynamics. There is NO holding back out of respect for boundaries or social etiquette. "What are you even thinking??? WHO CARES what Dick and Jane feel??? It's YOUR decision. Why do you even worried about that?? Just do what YOU want to do." Conversation over. Se is instinct. An animal in the woods. Survival. Kill or be killed. Fi bypasses the feelies to arrive at instant self awareness and Se is ready at any moment to POUNCE. She can. And will. Quite an interesting function stack. Too bad her advice had never worked for me. Socially she is very refined. You'd never know how ready she is for battle if survival or personal values are at stake.
Thanks for the passionate resonance Andrea, we always welcome new perspectives on type and behaviors according, but remember, type isn't about behavior! -Danel
Thanks, Damon! Some people may think you got too angry here but this is pure passion. Awesome! I'm an INFP. It is ridiculous for anyone to think if you are 1 out of 16 MBTI types and then meet another of the same type that they will be the same. People grow up in different environments, have different experiences, ... have different DNA. Each human is unique. It baffles me how someone could think of something so illogical.
You are brilliant! Thank you for making this video. Thank you for emphasizing Fi is a VALUES function, not an EMOTIONAL response. I love that you differentiated Fi’s mod of feeling from Fe’s more touchy lovey mode of feeling because no one seem to realize that. As an INFP, you’ve made me feel seen and valued 💕
It is always so interesting as infp to get the perspectives from Te-doms. There is a kindred feeling from sharing Fi-Te.
As an ENFP, I've often felt a need, growing up, to shove my feelings aside and to get in touch with a more rational and logical way of seeing the world. I've always been a strong, artistic, and emotional personality, and someone that is an absolute people person, getting along with nearly everyone. It actually wasn't until I came across Myers Briggs that I started to embrace that strong emotional side of me and found it to actually be quite a strength when dealing with people. Building up my Te these days, it's all starting to come full circle for me, in the importance of being in touch with emotions and with other people, especially when Te wants to get things done ;)
Fi doms, or auxs, are not whimps. You speak the truth Chad! There is a burning strength and fire deep inside all of us feelers, and all it takes is for a passion of ours or cause, to bring that strength forward.
I love this. I really enjoy when someone's inferior functions come out, you really get to see their vulnerabilities! great video!
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AMEN! My "sentiments" EXACTLY! The type of commentary you're describing reminds me of one of my own rants about my own father's personality. I was jokingly telling my son one day that my father must be the EXACT opposite type from me (I'm an INFP) and saying that he must be an ESTJ...I was new to MBTI and just figured this must be the exact opposite of an INFP. Then I looked it up and I honestly think that IS his type!. Dude, I'm right there with ya. I've learned to relax and find validation elsewhere, and you should too. There are probably more of us who appreciate Fi than you realize. The information you read on INFP is so spot on. I'm an INFP (female) and can be nothing less than fierce about my values and I'm internally stronger than anyone I know.... Including my "tough guy" father! :)
It's amazing to experience such an absolutely raw you. It's very honest. I love it.
I've noticed that sometimes my most creatively raw self splurges out when I havnt slept and I'm demi-tired and I'm just a bag that was over-fluffed and it burst and splattered across the surface, in our personal creations.
Aw man, Damon, thank you so much for this. I feel so understood. I didn't even realize my own potential as an INFP watching this. I was always thought being deep was a nuisance and my insight into others was just my imagination. I am super into psychology and have been great about calling things out in my family members or people around me that I could see within them but they weren't able to see themselves. I always thought my guesses about what was going on was never really accurate and my family just saw me as "cutely defending them."
But, in retrospect and with what you're saying here, I feel like it makes sense. I do empathetically experience what everyone is going through around me and can really pull out the truth of what's going on - whether it is a good thing about them or a negative thing. I usually avoid saying the negative thing, knowing that criticism would hurt myself if it was said to me.
Wow, all I can say is thank you so much for standing up for us Fi dominant users. I feel so understood in a way I couldn't myself and literally, just now, I was getting depressed about how I don't understand what my strength is in this world as a Fi user. I was seeing every other user of a dom. cognitive function's strength, but not my own. I was feeling hopeless about a career direction and hopeless about what moral change I really can make in this world. I just clicked on your video and feel saved before I just got super bummed. So, thank you so much.
Fi and Te are two sides of the same coin.
Fi is the indomitable fire that moves the machinery and orchestrations of Te. It's our underlying conscience that tries to grasp moral value at it's purest form separate from whatever values is within their local system or social construct. It is a seeker, a philosopher, an explorer of Truth (much like Ti). It uses Te to bring these discoveries to life.
I always found it hypocritical when people admonish and deem weak the vulnerable sincerity and honesty of Fi in it's pursuit of true value but praise the strength of will that Te brings. Like where do you think that shit came from?
Make no mistake, FPs and TJs can be very similar and will move heaven and earth if they have to if that means giving birth to a universal truth that soars high above us.
You got it!
Thank you very much for making this video.
The "putting myself in somebody's shoes" thing.. Oh my god.
I never realized that when I put myself in somebody's shoes, I literally think of *MYSELF* being in their shoes, not how that person would've actually felt like.
MBTI made me realize how people's way of thinking is very different.
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Thank you so much for this! As an INFP, it frustrates me to think that Fi Doms get instantly passed off as these negative things. It's good to see someone using precise data taking a stand and validating the great things Fi Doms are capable of. You nailed it! Thank you for standing up for us and sharing your thoughts. ☺️
I'm an INFP and I really agree - our type is about depth, passions, ideals, meaning, inner values, compassion because we understand or try to understand the complexity of life..all the time!
Thank you for speaking out about it so passionately. As always quality, truth and striving for understanding.
I've been feeling pissed off over TJ types constantly being called as emotionless. It's bullocks. If anything I have always felt that their feelings might be far more genuine and mean a lot more being able to also discern the situation from an objective, logical stand.
Also, I got weirdly happy when you said you've been getting more in touch with your Fi. Yayyy, personal development and expansion. Wub Wub!!
lmaooo "my baby mama number 9 got pregnant" hahahha
I loved your video! it's pretty spot on. I'm INFP and my husband is ENTJ. So it's interesting seeing things from an ENTJ perspective. Continue using your ENTJ strengths for good :)
+Chad Crandall What are your thoughts on a Entj 3w2 and Infp 4w5 pairing?
Thank you Chad. That was very positive and helpful. Most people from what I see don't bother to understand us like you do, it's more like they want INFPs either to shape up or shut up kind of thing. INFPs just like myself I find it easier to deal with ENTJs than ESTJs for a simple reason that intuitors explain their dream, their vision, they can sell you the idea that you will be motivated even before seeing it, while sensors are more like this is the real world, that's how it's done and I don't have time to explain it to you.
Yes, it's good you put out there that you have feelings too. They may not be your dominant decision making process but that does not mean you do not feel. I feel there is a massive misconception out there about feeling and thinking types. All humans have deep emotions unless they are psychopaths. With dominant feeling types feeling also manifests as a natural emotional intelligence. That to me is the only difference. Although with dominant feelers they also can not escape the emotions of those around them. When Fi is strong, putting yourself in other people's shoes comes naturally and a framework of their personality is also developed through repressed Ni. This is the "jaded" personality because the Infp is either feeling you out or blocking you. At least, thats my understanding. Isfps are probably similar with tertiary Ni. With Fe I think it's similar and the emotions come at you from every direction when you are in a room with people. Thanks for the video! :)
I love this! One thing I would say as an INFP is that I don't empathize with other people by referencing myself, not consciously anyways. I think of it as literally being them, and sometimes that means feeling something that I wouldn't normally feel, but maybe that is due to extroverted intuition being able to see all perspectives.
INFP here. I've never--to my knowledge--been labeled "weak", a "pushover", etc.--and those do not apply. A good label that gets at _some essence_ of why some may view INFPs as such is "nondirective". While I can be a passionate workaholic in the pursuit of a personally meaningful goal, in the absence of one, I can resemble a jellyfish.
"He can sleep almost indefinitely, is probably the laziest person in England."
-- Maureen Cleave on INFP John Lennon, 1966--
Heh ;)
Not a push over indeed! Thanks for your comment.
INFP male here... triple thumbs up... keep going man
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The peace pipe smoking and hugs.... Sounds good though. Haha!
I admire your passion here. The raw realness.
Haha THIS VIDEO! I've never understood the sappy or hug everybody stereotype. I thought I was mistyped but I eventually learned the cognitive functions and it made sense.
People see me more as an INFJ tho. I have asked someone was into MBTI which type she thought I was and she said INFJ. I think people who haven't spent the time to actually get to know us better think we're all softy, harmless and weird or that we're always talking about our feelings to EVERYONE. It's so interesting to see different enneagram types within each MBTI type. I am a INFP type 5 and when I meet other INFPs, I get all excited seeing our similarities and differences.
YES. Often what people perceive as being a "doormat," pushover, weak, pathetic comes down to one word: SELFLESSNESS. People forget that putting compromise and others' needs first is a huge part of being a strong leader. Those same people who call me a doormat forget that I was leading their group projects in college, even though I was the youngest and most shy person in the room.
Today was a good day for a rant. ;)
I mistyped all my INFP friends. I had no clue they were Fi dominants. I actually expected one of them to be INTP.
Thank you for making this video man. I'll share it around.
It was also hilarious to see you get a little animated when talking about ESTJs!
This is the best explanation I've heard about INFP!! I'm not the touchy feelly type and my background was not too good. I operate more like an ESTJ in many areas of my life and yes I've been greatly misunderstood! Thank you so much!!
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People always thought I was meek and easy going but OH are they wrong. I don't put up with shit if my value system is crossed. I alway liked to see the surprised look on their faces. When I was in elementary school I was scared of social interaction all the time, but when a friend of mine was being bullied behind her back I didn't hesitate to stand up from my seat and call the students on their crap. INFPs are like the quiet badasses of the world B)
We are the compassionate and sensitive warriors of the world, and we have the ability to lead through inspiration and love when we fully accept and realize who we are.
This is so insightful, and I thank you for it. I listened to this with my isfp daughter, and we laughed and laughed. My mother is an intp and she always says that I'm so analytical. She says that I don't share my feelings. I counter by saying that she doesn't share her Ti type interests easily either and I would like to know these things. I see us as two peas, just in different pods. :) Thanks for getting us. You're a gem.
I am so happy you made this video! I discovered MBTI about a year ago and found it fascinating, but I am at the point now where I am giving up on it because of all the INFP hate. I even read one article that INFPs do not use their Ne that much....completely discrediting them as intuitive. Such BS. There are just some types that are so favored while others just get stomped on. Thank you for trying to change stereotypes.
I love the beginning of the video. I know most infps will agree at least that finding their mbti type is the simplest/most accurate way of explaining who they are on the surface
I'm an INFP and recently had a falling out with a close INFJ friend of mine over social justice issues and now that I'm figuring out the difference between Fi and Fe our disconnect or lack of understanding of each other makes so much more sense. As an INFJ, her focus and values were based off of what she felt was objectively right or wrong or for the greater good and assumed that people felt a certain way because of the environment they came from rather than because of personal values or even that some people's personal values were straight up wrong or hurtful.
Like she wouldn't associate with people if she found out they voted for Trump and would immediately say it was because they were racist, sexist, etc. but while I really don't like Trump and do agree that he was racist and sexist, I didn't feel offended or betrayed to find out people I knew had voted for him and tried to find reasons why they'd vote for him and had a hard time believing that every single Trump voter was just a bigot.
Another friend of mine who's an Fi dom user and genuinely hated Trump actually got upset with one our friends for disowning another friend again because they had voted for Trump and went on about personal choice, and personal right to unpopular opinions, etc.
I'm a male INFP, and my Mother is INFJ. I love her and always will. But man we can clash. Not in a horrible way, just misunderstanding each others views. Politics for some strange reason we seem to not clash too much on. I learnt something today that has helped me get an understanding of what going on between us. It's the fact that a get say 10 perspective views of a give subject say, my Mother may get the same amount and pick out the best one or two. Where I as an INFP have trouble doing that as I have to view from all those positions and see that more than just 2 are valid, or worthy of consideration, as to not tread on toes or hurt feelings, or peoples sensibilities. Neither of us are wrong. I just feel she is taking less into consideration. I wouldn't even know where to being with her to broach this topic as I could see us going in circles. She's not as open as me, seems slightly more black and white. i just now that we will never quite meet in the middle unless she could stop to listen long enough and get to know me. I sure she knows me in a lot of ways, just doesn't fully understand me, and doesn't real care to know. which hurts a little as I write it. I will try again, she's done the test that's a start. Gave her a brief rundown of my type which nails me, for her to read when she likes. It's been over a month and she hasn't. I might just mention next time that it is important to me, it will take 5 to 10 mins max. If you do nothing else for me could you just do this.
I love this video, thank you :) -INFP
Great video. I can't identify with the stereotypical Infp. I am very disciplined and am able to get stuff done and am not a pushover.
I KNOW HOW YOU FREAKING FEEL. when people complain that infp's is such a bad type, like no it is not a bad type. It is an incredible type, there is something beautiful in it, just choose what one has.
Interestingly enough, my estj mother won't even believe that I'm a feeling dominated person (despite my explicitly saying so). Watching this video was entirely too self-validating it felt wrong. With my whole being, thank you.
Glad you vibed Mariah, thanks.
Thanks for that :) As a INFP your spot on. I can also add that analyzing people and situations and getting through the day as a Fi type some of the more "Negative" things I have to say are a little valid but for VERY different reasons no one ever seems to get lol.This all stems from the fact that my energy gos into places you dont see. If my emotional needs arnt met if I dont have a support system, if I loose my self awareness and dont ask for what I need Im a disaster. Utterly completely useless drained getting by that any extra weight of expectation pressing down on me I cant cope with. And seeing me from the outside I see how that can be misconstrued in its nature. Or hard it is to motivate me, when I dont care I dont.. there is a LOT we dont care about, everyone talks about our passions but you whats even more powerful and frightening the larger list of crap we give zero fucks about. And that fill me with guilt for everyone I afflict, because Im misunderstood people dont know how to support me and without a little support my batteries get drained, and when that happens I go to a very dark place and see in excruciating detail how that hurts everyone stupid enough to get attached to me... I wish real life was like social media and I could firend or unfirend people on my terms. At my best you wouldn't believe how far just a little affection and consideration go's to charge my batteries, I will consistently move mountains and tell the sun where to set, close relationships are my passions as well I thrive on you if you manage to understand my very real if not met crippling needs. And at my worst I am this awful detached often indignant house cat type of animal that you project so much onto to me and expect something out of me I never was and I will wander through your life zero fucks. I think the real villains here is when they talk about us INFPs we are needy moody wrecks, with no affinity for societal idealizations in practice. And if you are going to sell the best of personality coaching special package life coach deal for $67.95 the only stuff you have to work with not deep and alienating to everyone else is up-selling some sugar coated fantasy where we are "sensitive" rather then brooding in emotional complexity, and our vivid imaginations (Never mind its more of a coping mechanism thats more of a controlled dissonance) To play up our good traits like how we thrive on inter-dependence and can draw limitless inhuman abilities and stamina from it, silence because we live in a culture that celebrates independence above all else. You got me ranting lol Im just going to stop here and leave it at I dont know havent talked seen or heard of a INFP that wasent in deep pain, or struggling to make some sort of piece with the world and we do this silently surrounded by people that care about us but never truly understand. We mature and thrive in the most crazy ways, like you said please give us a chance.
similarminds.com/jung/infp.html Also heres a refreshing thing I actually found today. No unicorns and fairys they keep it REAL :) lol
As someone who has a preference for using Fi. I am quite surprised that many sources portray it as making decision 'based on feelings'. I would, personally, explain it as follows;
I think about what I find important in general. Based on that, I make a logical decision of what, following from those values/principles is the best thing to do.
I do not focus on a goal (or my personal goal), so also not my own wanting or feeling. I think of what is important in generalities, this can actually mean that myself, or my whishes in a choice are less important than other people, processes, needs, etc.
I really appreciate all your video's, thank you for sharing!
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A refreshing rant, thank you!
THANK YOU. Seriously though at some point I was so sick of Myers briggs because some people use it to indulge their current ways of thinking about the world instead of expanding it, and to bastardize human complexity instead of actually getting a deeper understanding.
Either it's people saying that INFP's are soft and dreamy all the time or it's INFP's who hate being held up to this standard disqualifying what can be seen as a suffocating stereotype by claiming that no, INFP's can be cold, unaffectionate, selfish people.
MBTI is a tool. It is a way of getting to know people better. MBTI is not a person: a person is a complex mix of their past, their upbringing, their relationships, their beliefs, their race and class and age and the era they are born in and whatever else. As such, MBTI is a way fo understadning their behaviour and cognition.
However, becasue the internet absolutely loves to fetishize things, MBTI encourages people to be lazy in how they regard people, so much so that if you realize your new friend is an INFP then you try to squeeze their behaviour into a box and treat them according to a 2 dimensional stereotype instead of as...well a complex human being. If you meet an INTJ you think oh well their probably cold, heartless encyclopedias so you relate with them on this basis rather than on the basis of how they actually are.
MBTI can be an amazing way of growing and learning and expanding how we see the world and increasing the effectiveness of how we relate with people who are different from us, but it can be, and often is, grossly misused: it becomes an excuse to indulge in negative behaviours because hey that's typical of my type right? I'm a misunderstood INFP so i can feel persecuted and stifled when a well-meaning xNTJ gives me fair criticism right? Or I can disregard an INFP as overemotional when they make a non-logical ethical argument right?
Or it can become a way to compartmentalize people and dehumanize them into a bunch of traits and stereotypes strung together. And then claim we know them so well because MBTI says so.
-Ticked off INFP
As an Infp I can often see where people are coming from since I can put myself in their shoes. This makes it hard to get angry since I end up sympathizing with them which from the outside perspective may look like doormat behavior, as getting angry would be justified and appropriate in those situations. It's hard to sustain anger if you feel sympathy.
Fe picks up realtime emotions while FiNe picks up the actual reasons behind the emotions.
Dude thanks so much. I'm an INFP joining the Swedish army as a team leader in a few months. Never really quite understood how i could be INFP because I don't behave like people tell me I should. I finally feel understood again.
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MBTV Hi there.. I took the Mbti about 5 to 6 years ago and repeatedly got the INFJ result. Once I looked at the profile I immediately Identified with everything that I saw and felt a sense of relief because everything in my life started to make sense.. This was so huge for me and my self growth process being a truth-seeker! Recently I have started making TH-cam videos and what prompted me to make these videos had nothing to do with initially the mbti test, but I felt like since I was making videos it was a great platform to connect and also to express a lot of the things that I've experienced as being an infj in hopes of helping younger infjs due to our struggles especially with coping.. Recently a viewer of one of my videos was very adamant on their beliefs that I was an Infp.. Initially I was very irritated with their surety of the issue, especially knowing the type of person that I am, along with consistently getting the INFJ results, but most importantly as always with anything doing my research on Infjs and truly resonating with the profile description.. However my curiosity and being above all a truthseeker led me to start researching profile descriptions of Infp people and looking at different videos online.. Now I am myself a little confused because I also resonated with so much of the infp profile, the only difference for me that really stood out in my head was the fact that it seems that infjs are willing to blend in at all times above all just wanting to keep the peace and Harmony between people. I on the other hand do not like conflict and above all would like to keep the peace as well but not at the risk of just wanting to fit in or fit in just for the sake of wanting to get along just to get along, especially if core beliefs and values are compromised! I have seen and enjoyed many of your videos and you seem to be quite adept at what you do.. I would like to know how I would go about getting professionally tested and most of all and above all know the full truth with the hopes of continuously working on my self growth.. The only way to do that I believe is to have accurate information.. I will be uploading a video soon regarding this issue and then tracking this whole process.. Do you have any suggestions and or recommendations as to how I would go about having the professional testing done .. Thank you so much!!
As an INFP, part of the reason I only open up to select people has a lot to do with what you said about "living in empathy". When I connect with someone, I can't help but relate with them from their own shoes. Standing in a person's shoes exposes you to a flood of their life experiences, in the form of abstract feelings (juicy and delicious abstract feelings, just waiting to be explored and evaluated). Holding another person inside you is an intimate experience and can get unpleasant fast when you get to their less desireables. This includes people I have known forever. Connecting with anyone means being exposed not only to their present state, but all the conditions that lead to that state, and their potential futures based on their trajectory. It's a big freaking process.
To clarify, for me it's crazy how complex this experience is. I may meet a person with an attractive shine in their eye, who seems a bit shy, but opens up to me. The moment I accept them into my space I am flooded with an intuitive download of their self. Perceiving them against what feels like their originating conditions; the flavor of shine in their eye clarifies from attractive to predatory. I start to smell that the shyness isn't genuine and the opening up has an undertone of being a game. Poof, I just introduced what a sociopath tastes like to my Si function forever...yuck. Worst part is, I realize immediately my intuition already warned me, but I just had to go tasting to make sure.
There's no way to experience the true good of a person without the bad and connecting indiscriminately can end up a repugnant experience. I assume a well developed Fi (dunno, I'm new to this) understands that to see the true value of something, one must openly experience the whole of it. Chances are if I am not actively engaging a person, it's because I don't feel like ripping open my guts and having that person wear me like a sleeping bag. We can totally enjoy tea together though... you over there and me over here.
I think it takes a tough person to live in the realms of feelings everyday, especially in the case of Si (again I'm assuming) where feelings are visceral.
Thanks for your videos, you have helped me a lot in understanding this stuff!
I'm glad I added to your perspective. More content to come.
God, that hit all my sensitive spots. All the worries of vulnerability of being open to others, and judging vs being judged back. Seeing all the goodness of humans and bad, inside others and yourself. When can we just be innocent again?
Just as an aside, I feel like most introverted functions are stubborn, not only Ni and Fi, but Ti and Si as well. There's something about their subjectivity that makes it closed off to change. Meanwhile, extraverted functions are all objective and much more open to outer stimuli. Feel free to argue, but it's as if "open-minded" is always referring to the extraverted funtions.
But perhaps it is that subjectivity of the introverted functions is the reason why we humens have them. With out thone functions we would just be robots and without the extraverted fuctions we would be animals.
Jhante Collins Open-minded is not necessarily willing to change for others, most introverts are open-minded in the sense that they try to understand and accept the difference. But they mostly won't change just because it makes others happy, there should be a much more logic reasons and methods that they can accept. If no compromise can be made, I think they'll prefer to go on separate ways.
I'm very open minded in the sense that I can see the other persons perspectives and value it as subjective truth, when it comes to changing my own perspective it's not that I'm closed off to change but it takes time and I won't fake agreement to be liked, so I may seem stubborn (Infp).
Great video! A lot of things start to make sense now. Thank you.
Having ideals and personal ethics and values and upholding them no matter what is definitely a strength. Remember it means no matter what. I'm a Fi user. And I've definitely had times where I was at odds with everybody else around me. Yet I just held out on my own and survived opposition and strife without giving in.
You're awesome for making this. I really appreciate it.
Thank you. I appreciate your comment.
Thank you very much! You're saying what I've been feeling for a long damn time! I want to scream! I'm an ISFP but I'm also a 4 or so I'm told. So I'm a double effed up person! I'm so sick of this crap! P.S I think I have just had a weight lifted by you and it makes me "feel"(lol) like I love you! Ahhh...I can breathe again!
spot on. infp -a but i can put on a fight if i have to. and thats the difference. HAVE to. nor am i lost in my dreamworld, but i love to have one. you are so right. unfortunately...some other types love to go and comment mean stuff, especially where there is not much feeling involved, and you know what? i don't give a shit. i also learned not to be shy around people. not giving a shit doesn't mean i do not notice, it just means i decided that other peoples opinions don't affect me .... because how i react is up to me, what others give out is up to them.
Thanks for the compassion and understanding. I think it's because we don't actually care much for the physical world and established social norms. We are deeply value based and highly respect the opinions of those we care about, but can appear blazé towards those we don't ("well fuck you then", or "whatever I don't care what you think").
Where was I going....
So if we appear weak, lazy etc, it's just that we don't care enough to expend effort. But we're insanely devoted to helping those we care about
This was refreshing to hear. I am also tired of reading all that bullshit. I'm not automatically an angel towards everyone because I got "INFP" on a freaking test.
I think one of the most interesting and fascinating people I've read about is Marlon Brando, he to me seems like an INFP. He was so misunderstood. Was labeled cold and narcissistic by some but that was how he could be PERCEIVED as when he fought for his "rights". Marlon could at moments be extremely charismatic, I think that many INFPs potentially has that charismatic inner flame in them. How many here has daydreamed about having some sort of speech where you stand up for what you believe in front of a crowd or group?
All the types has potential to give a lot. It's really a cliché but in a way, we all complete each other.
ISFPs can scare you to shit though.
Lol why?
+Luna in wonderland because SE
+Sven whats your personality type? :)
+Luna in wonderland I identify with ESFP.
+Sven oh cool!!! But i want to know whats so scary about Se?
As Fi dom I don't actually know my emotions alot
I see you’ve revisited this video a couple times from the comments I’ve seen that were years apart
Telling it like it is. I like that. I like your energy.
Also regarding some of the comments, i know an ENTJ enneagram 2; not an integrated 8, a 2. It is totally possible, as with any ennagram-mbti combination.
Wow, you totally think the way I do! That’s so refreshing. I’m an INFP btw.
VERY WELL SAID. Wow, that was different but such a great video. :) And despite being tired you still explained it all pretty well. A lot good points were made that gave me, and probably others, some clarity. Thank you!
+Uniquely Heather Holly (Singer-Songwriter) - Thank you! Good job on your music too!
+MBTV Thank you! =D
ROFL almost choked on my instant noodles laughing at the example about punching a select group of people in the face - something that my ENTJ husband would be onboard with if it benefits the larger group as a whole. As an INFP my first thought was ‘dang that’s going to hurt a lot’ I don’t think I want to be punched in the face.
Absolutely brilliant. From an ENFP.
infp here,in high school,i was pretty bad,did drugs,got into fights,and use to hang out with gangsters,well untill i dropped out of high school i calmed down and took another road lol.
i am an Aquarian infp enneagram 4 but have come to learn through my inner healing & growth how i am a part of everyone and everything… with my strong introverted feeling and healing my suffering? My extroverted intuition has strengthened…
you are right. im an infj, jumping between infp, isfp and enfj. as i wrote somewhere else, its like throwing things into a box, beginning with things that are most valuable emotionally, ending with glitzy and kitsch stuff you cant get rid of and find somehow cute on top. close the box, shake it. thats who you are. there is no seperation between the stuff, formerly at the bottom of the box and the things nobody sees value in, formerly at the top. traits jumbled together, mixing. guess its a bit of a weird metaphor which maybe hard to understand for most people :D
I know an INFP quite well (worked together closely in a same room for months).They are like what things makes other feel through her own subjectivity. As an objectively oriented person (extravert and Fe valuing type) it looks perplexing. It is quite funny how much easier my interaction was between Fe types than hers because I gave the Ti clarity what makes them feel secured.
Yes, it is wrong to put your own preference above others.
Fe types: Likes clarity. I know one who couldn't handle large numbers until I started to give Ti explanations. Huge progress in very little time. I just gave her some of my own abstractions. From hysteria to calmness in no time. Fi would drive her mad at there.
Te types: Are probably looking for some affirming ethical Fi guidance through local decisions. Me as Ti person sees the ethics as universal justice to which adhere to without personal sentiments and therefore do not see much use for Fi.
I think you should start understanding that we do not use functions one at a time as what you seem to be implying, and singling out functions as descriptions or adjectives for people behavior is very very off. You cannot use MBTI with observing behavior because it is a personal experience you can't be aware of without the other person perspective. I would suggest using MBTI material to further focus your own understanding separate from people, sounds like you are only creating more bias to types and stereotyping with functions then you are actually understanding people. You could always work with Damon as well, he is an MBTI master practitioner.
Combine being an INFP with anxiety and depression. It just amplifies all our negative traits. I look so dead inside in all my photos.
I am Fi dom thanks for the video bruh. I used to be over sensitive but I have a thick skin and I am very logical.
"Grow a pair and get over it" - LOL :D
This is a great explanation of the difference between Fe and Fi. Only one I have heard that makes sense to me.
Just out of curiosity, since you briefly referenced Enneagram, what is yours?
+Chad Crandall
I agree with you that Fi-doms aren't *weak* or anything like that.
The Fi-doms I have seen are very cool people, in general.
I can usually put myself in other people’s shoes, and if I can’t, I remind myself that there has to be a reason why X person is feeling this way. What they are feeling is real to them and I will not invalidate how they feel no matter what. It can be very damaging to a person to invalidate their experience or their feelings and when someone does invalidate them, they usually don’t know the whole story.
Just theorizing, but in my personal experience, it seems like Fe is less accurate because when an Fe user sees that I am sad, they immediately want to “change” my sadness rather than allow me to process or vent. ~INFP
1. What would you recommend is the best way for me to determine my Enneagram tritype? And how did you figure out your tritype?
2. I'm confused about my MBTI type. I think I'm ENFJ, but if I go off the functions I relate to (not necessarily in this order) Ni and Fi and Ti and Se. But nobody has that combination, so I must be mis-identifying one of my functions. I'm positive I'm an "NF" type at least, but being only mildly extroverted and basically on the border between Judging and Perceiving is perhaps why it's hard for me to know my functions. Honestly, I could even see myself perhaps as an INFP as a young kid who, over time, changed into an ENFJ as she got older. Do you think that's possible? and/or likely?
+Uniquely Heather Holly (Singer-Songwriter) -
Enneagram - It's pretty easy, look at all three centers (Head, Gut, Heart) And pick the type that best represents you in each center. Then lead it with your dominant. For Example: I am an 8, Then I relate to 3 more than 7, so I'm an 837. To verify, I cross reference the book Enneagram Tritypes. (Below) (www.scribd.com/doc/239698153/Tritype-Booklet-PDF)
MBTI - No, types do not change. It's like saying, "I was once left handed, and now I'm right handed." That doesn't happen. However, I can LEARN to use my right hand, but the natural preference always remains. I'd recommend you get typed professionally (by someone you learn to trust, but don't know).
And INFPs and ENFJs are TOTAL opposites in the sense of cognitive preferences. So, I would say this is very, very, unlikely.
+MBTV Oh I didn't realize it had to be one from each center; that makes it a little simpler. And I just read that PDF link; it's very informative! Thank you! I think I'm 469 The Seeker.
Uniquely Heather Holly - Of course, my pleasure.
I've read that Hitler was an INFP. Remember Adolf Hitler? He wasn't a kissy huggy type. I think he was more like a paranoid sociopath type. I don't identify with paranoid sociopaths, but I'm an INFP. And I'm not a kissy huggy type either!
I love isfp's!!!!💕💕💕❤😍🌈💜❤🌞❤😀💕💕💕💕💕❤🌈💜💜💜😎👍☀🎉💕❤🌞🌈⛅🐇
What's ur type?
So funny!
An ESTJ with a developed intuition.
Have yet to meet one!!!
+Al Cloutier - What?
Thank you. You need a channel to teach or a site with organization so we can follow. Is it possible?
What do you mean?
True Generations no offense or rudeness at all. I can be too blunt. I apologize if I was. May I email you instead? I would love to give helpful feedbacks as a concrete person (seem so far SLI).
I know this is random, but am i the only on who hates that term "in your feelings"? That saying is so disrespectful. You are a human being you are supposed to feel. It's part of what makes you human and who you are. They put it down as negative, and I just don't see why. Why would you ever want to hinder someone from being and expressing themselves? Anyway thank you for this amazing video! As an infp it made me very happy to have someone finally understand us. You are hilarious by the way! I hope your sleep was amazing.
WOO ISFP represent!
There are so many negative stereotypes about the various mbti and enneagram types, and people in general. If individuals make judgements on false and inaccurate information, that's their loss. Why so angry about this particular topic?
Oh but they definitely can be sappy at times and do it waaaay better than anyone else!!!!
I know an intp who was about to block me because he thought i ate ice cream that was not vegan. Fi dominant people or Fi users maybe in general are actually quite freaking brave and honest to humane feelings.
Well the reason I am emotionless because first, most of the time I didn't feel what people feel. Secondly, I did not know what to react and lastly I am sometimes lazy to show emotion/reaction. I appreciate all kind things that people do to me but I spotanously didn't show any emotion or reaction. I didn't do that intentionally.. its just.. thats how I am and its hard change. I know its rude and impolite but I can't help myself to change it XD. I let people do the same things to me because I know I deserve that.
I am not cold person. I am just emotionless. I try to be friendly with people but its hard cause I'm very lazy.
In general, Fe is more apt to not color what they see in others emotional outlook with personal opinion(s) but it can happen! And some Fe users are worse about this than others and they are convinced they're right! Fi can defo misread anyone... Fi users and Fe users and thinkers hahhaha. Yup. I can do that (INFP here). I'm going on the theory that Fi is not that fabu at accurately reading others right off the bat. It takes me a while. I observe over time to see what I think now that I'm older and have caught myself being wrong even about things I've thought for long periods. I've reconsidered and had to reorient myself about others that I know irl. And Fe users can end up having to do the same thing. All it takes is misinterpreting. After all, it's inside someone else and what people reveal is not necessarily what's up inside of them. That's theirs and they can use it and present it as they please as well as how they don't even intend to and have no idea they're coming off some particular way.
Ok so. That ^^^ was written by Fi. Right there. Fe users are more apt to misread Fi ime. And Fi is apt to misread at first and then if they stay open long enough they can true up what their perceptions are pulling in for info with their judgments of what is going on.
Extroversion ~= objective, but limited to context ~= 'consensus reality' ~= breadth ~= 'more good'.
Introversion ~= subjective, but independent of context ~= 'universal absolutes' ~= depth ~= 'less bad'.
Ti types wanting to understand Fi, should think first how they relate to their Fe, parallel it to Te (which they should mostly comprehend, even if they don't like it), then track back to see Fi/Te working, overall, in a similar fashion to Ti/Fe. Easier said than done, but it's how I made myself 'get' (but not like) Ti/Fe (INFP)
I don't see any MBTI related problems to be that big of a deal. Majority of people don't even know what MBTI is and usually don't care. So what if *some* people think INFPs are crybabies, most people aren't going to know.
Lol I feel like if I was in a workplace with an estj boss who was putting me down, and you were another superior (yeah I hate that word), you would walk up in front of him and start ranting at him with some influential speech about how they dont notice my gifts... and that I should be respected.
Your very emphatic and commanding way of sharing ideas reminds me of me when my Fi has been stomped on for a long time, and I feel desperate.
Feelings will never be truly understood by a Thinker simply because Feeling is opinionated and logic is proven. No argument about feelings can lead anywhere aside from "My opinion is this while your opinion is that". Feeling is what makes us human and what makes us different from one another but it is not the function to use as a decision making judging function due to the result often being less efficient and opinionated rather than analytical and thought out. The reason that feelers are capable of making good decisions using feeling as a judging function is simply because they were able to connect and to make another person feel good, the receiving person then in turn rewards the feeler which is seen as a successful decision. It does not work in fields of logic whereby you "Feel" that 2+2=4.