@@2stroketyson79 he wasn't saying that to insinuate you should try to hurt somebody with the elbow. He was just explaining how a proper hook should be thrown. You'll obviously get penalized for an elbow.
For someone just getting into boxing as a beginner, this gentlemen's tutorial is clear, concise and is driven by technique; a great way for the adult learner to progress. Thanks for the post..
Javier Rodriguez i weigh 215 and he looks heavier than me but dont know how tall he is. Im 6ft so assuming hes around my hight 230ish is a good guess. If hes 5ft8 he could only be around 200
ahahahaha. I've watched this video a hundred times. I also noticed how fast this was. Only after reading this comment did I notice the glitch (keep your eye on Freddie's head).
A complete boxing clinic on the importance of the left hook in a boxing match from the great trainer, Freddie Roach. Thanks for uploading this boxing tutorial, which will greatly help any aspiring boxer.
that man hitting the bag is a dangerous puncher....whoever catches any of that ...its game over...fast and hard ..proper genuine power right there...dangerous man.
wow, my trainer taught me the same way to throw that hook, how ur palms should be facing & twisting those hands on straight shots. Amazing fundamentals. .this video bro came out 30yrs ago when I first set foot in my local gym for getting in fights at my school.. mom&dad knew right where to drop me off.
I don't do that cause I've hit a heavy bag like that and my pinky hurt so instead I keep my fist vertical when hitting the heavy and fighting cause if your opponent goes under your hook you could hit his cranium and with your fist horizontal you could hurt your hand
I was a 6'0 welterweight at 15 years old and sparred with a guy of the same stature who hit like that - anyways, pretty sure I got brain damage..totally worth it though.
They both were lucky to have met each other. Pacquiao was already a complete fighter and world champion when he met Freddie, but Freddie taught Pacquiao how to really throw his lead hook. The one they later called "Manila Ice" because it knocked opponents out cold, and Pacquiao helped get Freddie in the hall of fame as a coach. I was lucky enough to meet both gentleman in General Santos City (GenSan). Legends.
I always get a little injured when trowing hooks. I'm not quite sure about my hand angle and what part of the knuckles should have contact with the objective.
+Diego Martin Hernández Sounds like my problem, I got the idea from a weightlifting video that thumb down rotates your shoulder too much, like straight bar bench presses always injure me - their advice was to do dumbbell bench presses with elbows tucked in this is a more natural position for your shoulder so I think for boxing hooks your shoulder will be stronger thumbs up.
+Diego Martin Hernández I used to throw my hooks with my palm facing the ground, now I throw my hooks with my palm facing my body and I don't have any more issues.
@marrerogecko I learned it both ways and I feel like my rotator cuff is safer with a palm in position. I watched a Freddie Roach highlight reel of his fights in the 80's and he seems to use both positions depending on his body position. If he's shifting his head off to the side and ducking while throwing it he seems to go palm down but if he's still up right it appears palm in. I've seen this happen to most fighters who support a palm down position. Just what I've observed anyway.
Usually if they said you are fighting a guy called Justin you might think you had a chance. This would be a lifetime error and potentially mean all future meals were via a straw.
@@ssamdog26 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_disease In this video, Roach's movement and speech are far less impaired than they are now. It's terrific, at least, that he is so passionate about boxing and training boxers; having goals to focus on no doubt helps him maintain a positive outlook on life despite his own limitations.
Yeah...if you aren't a boxer and your hands aren't conditioned, don't throw a hook with your palm facing the floor. Rotate your hand 90 degrees so your thumb is facing up. You land a glancing blow to someone's head head doing it Freddy's way, you're likely to break your index knuckle.
Great tip, you won't generate any more power with palms down, my coach told me too throw with what was more comfortable, I plams.uo offers more protection
@@dagnut Even good technique and wraps gave me tendonitis over the years that only 2 quartozone shots cleared up with rest.. sometimes your wrist simply is gonna decay coz striking something with that torque n force isnt natural. Proper technique however trumps all else.. i agree with the dude above re palms down after going thru that rehab Everyone i know has shit elbows n wrists
@boxingnut1986 Agreed. It's really preference, but tactically, throwing the hook over the top of your opponents jab/cross is much more accurate with the palm down letting you slip over the shoulder. If the target is covering with both hands, you can slip the hook behind his guard (near the ear) with the palm facing. Also palm inward against an orthodox fighting using the shell so you can adjust the punch (from half/half to hook) if he changes levels (ducks right when he hides his chin). So Both
Power starts with correct body position. Most pivot on the balls of the foot but to deliver bone breaking power, you have to pivot on the balls of both heels. Left foot forward and right foot back. Left foot is the brace and the right foot is the base. You used double compression for maximum tissue damage. It all boils down on how much weight you can hang on the person you are hitting.
Steve Hammel I don't understand the difference you're explaining between the ball of the foot and the ball of the heel. Can you elaborate I want to understand
Both hooks are good and powerfull it depends on the coach, some coaches teach you that hook that Freddy showed him and some teach you the thumb up hook
+Interfectio I use both types of hooks depending on distance and my intention. Thumb facing up hits harder and longer range but thumb parallel to the floor is faster and lands at a different angle.
Freddie would prob been an amazing fighter still if he hadn’t started developing Parkinson’s disease. God bless u Freddy, u really blessed many with championships because u are a champion my friend.
@@elstoniobanderas4091 He kinda suck as a fighter and should had quit when he still had his faculties cause he took alot of punches. He's a great Trainer but he should have known when to call it quits cause boxing is like a drug
@1234NAna12 I read that with the longer/wider hooks the palp should face you. With the close range/infighting hook the palm should face down. I makes sense, specially if you practice just the hand/elbow movement a bit with no body. The short range hook kinda snaps down, while the longer ranges make you snap towards your chest. It would make sense to keep the palm of the hand at the direction in which the snapping motion is in to avoid injury and add more power through better alignment. My 2c :)
Because bag work looks prettier. Once you box you realise most of the stuff they teach you doesn't work and only looks good, I've never once pivoted my foot when throwing a lead hook. I use my upper body because you are moving around too much to plant your feet and twist your foot. Most people are too fast and too far away for twisting your foot. If you try using this I guarantee you will hit nothing but air. Unless your hitting someone really slow and flat footed then maybe you have a chance.
Really guys? He is saying to pivot your foot because this ensures that the hips twist. Once you get the hang of it, you don't need to twist your foot anymore. In case you couldn't tell, this isn't is a video for expert boxers!
Dat Boi damn you must suck at boxing 😂 hooks are to be thrown deep in the pocket. If you’re throwing hooks and hitting air, you need to go back to pad drills and footwork sessions on how to close distance
@zagabel Both ways work. Don't really worry about the distinction. I've heard all kinds of explanations for each--vertical fist has more power, horizontal fist has better flexibility of range, vertical fist is less likely to hurt your wrist and hand, horizontal fist is easier to connect. The only explanation that really seems to make a difference to me is that, when punching in MMA gloves, throw the hook like Freddie teaches--the other kind have a tendency to connect w/ the fingers.
@airbbll08 jab is one of many leads. it's not the only lead. as you get more comfortable and learn the game better, you realize right hands leads, uppercut leads, left hook leads are just as effective. everything has a time and place. right hand lead, left uppercut overhand right is a beautiful, effective combo without a jab.
@lboogie1338 no, the reason MMA, which generally uses Muay Thai for standup striking, positions the thumb up (palm facing body) for hooks is for clinching....especially if you miss with a hook, your hand is already in position to clinch.
@MEJIAV1F3W I think that its all just depends on your personal preference and individual body type. Although many people say that throwing your hooks with the palm down is quicker/faster while throwing them with you palm facing towards yourself is usually more powerful due to the bicep being involved more. A lot of people also say that when you throw a hook with your palm facing yourself you leave your hand less prone to breakage or injury.
Not a single person seems to be able to tell my why twisting your wrist during a punch adds "power" or "sting". There's no science behind it that I can think of. Physically, twisting your wrist shouldn't add any power at all as the motion is in a different direction to that of the punch. All I can conclude is that people just think it's a cool/quirky thing to say, as if it's some sort of ancient boxing secret. Any takers?
It's not always appropriate, but it comes down to basic physics applied to your arm's complex biomechanics. Think of the formula Force = Mass x Acceleration. If you wait to twist your wrist at the last possible moment before impact, you are moving your wrist muscles into the punch DURING the punch's impact. You are effectively creating extra acceleration to add to the formula. It requires extremely precise timing and is something natural strikers do well without ever thinking much about it. This is true for hooks, uppercuts, and everything in between because their circular swinging motion must be reconciled with the angle you should apply force at for greatest effect. When mass is applied at a direct angle - perpendicular to the target, aka 90 degrees - it has its greatest total force. Applied at a lesser angle, the same mass and acceleration result in less total force. This is NOT true for jabs and crosses because there is no need to twist; you're already applying force as directly as you can. The one drawback to this technique is if you mistime the twist, or your opponent moves in an unexpected way, you run the risk of breaking your wrist since it isn't perfectly straight.
Colton Hammond thanks for the explanation but I'm afraid I still cant see it. I assume by "wrist muscles" you are referring to the muscles in the forearm, as there are no muscles specifically at the wrist. But twisting your wrist doesn't "move your muscles into the punch". I'm not really sure what you mean by that... I can certainly accept that the twisting action could cause the opponents skin to cut/tear more easily which is obviously advantageous. But as for adding more force... I just can't see it. Anyway thanks again, i'll let you know if I find out any more :)
To put it as simply as I can, bending the wrist at the last moment puts a little more acceleration into the motion as well as hits at a better angle. Not right for everyone.
Colton Hammond Ah I think I see where we are getting mixed up here. I am talking about TWISTING the wrist (as if you are unlocking a door with a key for example). You seem to talking about BENDING the wrist at the joint. Yes I can see how that would add a little bit of extra force if you can time it right, but sounds VERY risky as far as damaging your wrist is concerned.
The most important thing twisting your wrist does is it protects you. Throw a string of punches as hard as you can at absolutely nothing, and you're going to hurt your joints. Twisting your wrists prevents hyper extension and saves your elbow.
@@Dissenter A year later, I am much more mature and understand now. I had a superiority complex because I was an MMA fighter among boxers, but now I'm pleased to say i've embraced the sweet science as a part of my style. On behalf of my past self, I apologize.
@zagabel palm facing down is for power, palm facing you is less powerful but theres a higher chance u could injure ur thumb or wrist hooking with palm facing down
This is how I learn to throw a hook.. literally watching this video right here when I was a teenager I would practice drilling technique and id throw 250 punches every single night sometimes I would throw combinations or I would do different things but no matter what I had least would practice one technique an hour before I got to shower... The hooks I throw i throw with that same exact technique.. it's the most powerful punch you can throw in a short distance... I throw two different types of crosses a straight right and then a looping punch.. I felt and that were cut it going forward and then a counter uppercut backwards... That was my point practice your techniques in a fighting simulation like going forward and then counter
@zagabel The advantage of palm towards you is good for the street. You either hit clean or miss clean. But with the palm turned down you may occasionally strike only with the smallest knuckle - which breaks easily!
@scatcatsid when you said this it sounds quite possibly so i looked at some fights and seen most long range hooks thrown palm toward them selves. you sure thats right? i find the shorter hooks is easier to put more power and a slight downward angle when thrown palm down
I don't get why Freddie said palm down in that video. That's more of a martial arts style hook, not boxing and it doesn't have near the power. I've never seen any of his fighters hook like that. Even his guy hitting the bag reverted to throwing it with the thumb up. That's when he really started hitting it. Mad respect to FR. He's a hall of fame coach, but as soon as I transitioned from kickboxing to boxing, my boxing coach trained me to start throwing the hook with the thumb up and that made a remarkable difference in power. Everything else, I agree with completely. Not that he needed my approval or anything anyway. Lol
People keep saying that Freddie is teaching to box dirty, but I think it’s more about the philosophy of throwing a proper hook. What you should be thinking when working on your form.
That's one good way to throw a good left hook if your that big another good way is to cock your left foot on the right side of the opponent and follow through from your foot to your leg through your backbone then complete it with your left hook with your shoulder and arm. But that dude's a beast so he can kind of stand there solid and still throw a hard left hook
I feel I have more power in my left hook if I don't turn it over. Its just a habit from years ago , u agree with Freddie, the left hook is the best punch. Opposite for a lefty.
"If a good hook misses, the elbow lands" LMFFAOO
Lol but he don't want u to be dirty
yeah absolutely! but the guy is not doing what Freddy is explaining!
not saying to be a dirty fighter or nothing
even though thats exactly what im saying to be
Makes sense
@@2stroketyson79 he wasn't saying that to insinuate you should try to hurt somebody with the elbow. He was just explaining how a proper hook should be thrown. You'll obviously get penalized for an elbow.
That guy hits like a TRUCK.
that is mildly put
Sounds like you're a keyboard warrior.
Vaalferatus his left hook is so fuckin fast for his size
He is/was a pro boxer, wasn't the greatest but a tough guy. He was solid at one point.
yeh his name justin fortune ex heavy weight fighter works with pacquaio & freddie roach as trainer LA GYM!
For a man who struggles with parkinsons, Freddie Roach does amazing stuff. I have nothing but the uttermost respect for this man.
To somebody who does not know who Freddie is they would just assume he's a nerd not knowing anything about boxing.
nerds tend to know stuff
Math teacher...
hillary's prism Naaah...he's just a plastic paddy punch drunk former punch bag.
@@cquilty1 he's the best trainer in the world , what are you smart guy ??
@@cquilty1 lolololol
And that makes u wat m8
I'm going to floor-level everyone in my department tonight with this combo......thanks Papa Roach
Howd it go
@@graysonchavis the second guy knew what he was doing. So mission failed.
@@SB-eu6fr fk AHAHAHA
@@SB-eu6fr BRUUUH NOOO
For someone just getting into boxing as a beginner, this gentlemen's tutorial is clear, concise and is driven by technique; a great way for the adult learner to progress.
Thanks for the post..
monstrous speed and power from that bloke
Man, it cannot be overstated how quick, compact, and powerful his left hook is. That thing landing cleanly will take just about anybody out.
10/10 would not let that guy punch me
Same, the big guy with the yellow vest looks like he got some power too
You wouldn't do 1 left hook body shot for $10,000 USD?
I mean he was trained by coach freddie roach
Ye but don’t you wonder what it’d feel like.
I'm pretty sure he decides who and when he punches...scary guy
this guys power is insane
yeah, he's about 200 lbs so...
look heavier, like 230
Javier Rodriguez i weigh 215 and he looks heavier than me but dont know how tall he is. Im 6ft so assuming hes around my hight 230ish is a good guess. If hes 5ft8 he could only be around 200
dirtyjew1974 ok thanks for your life story loser
@@smallslimboy hahahhaah
was so not expecting a fast 1, 2 for a big guy like that and power.. very impressive
was there a glitch at 1:15?? he went so fast i thought he went god mode
ChasinFromBehin frs
ahahahaha. I've watched this video a hundred times. I also noticed how fast this was. Only after reading this comment did I notice the glitch (keep your eye on Freddie's head).
Lmfao that shit was to damn fast
Lmfao
It was an edit dumbasses
Freddie Roach = The Legendary trainer who's been training the living legend, Manny Pacquiao.
damn thought he was a chess player
THE CHEAT - MANNY PACQUIAO
@@Feverishkiller Fuck off why a cheat??
@@herrsphinx9491 he is saying that cos manny refused to take a drug test one fight when he was jacked
@@Soa217 yep
Dam that guys packing power.. these vids r priceless id give anything to train with Freddie specially as a southpaw pacman fan
I use to watch Freddie Roach on TV, a lot. Friday night fights? Freddie is one hellava trainer!
A complete boxing clinic on the importance of the left hook in a boxing match from the great trainer, Freddie Roach. Thanks for uploading this boxing tutorial, which will greatly help any aspiring boxer.
@@markdoughty8780 are you related to Ben doughty in London?
@@BillsBoxing I could be, but, not that I'm aware of...
Freddie, surely one of the best. Nice work Justin
Freddie roach phenomenal coach. God bless him continue his work
Damn clean combos with great power.
that man hitting the bag is a dangerous puncher....whoever catches any of that ...its game over...fast and hard ..proper genuine power right there...dangerous man.
1:16 there's an edit.. look at Freddie just before the left hook lands
Suge Knight thank you for pointing that out, good eye, that was unusual punch and quite scary if you ask me
Sal Khan agreed
@@sugeknight6032 How's prison?
Fuck I'm glad you spotted that... I was about to give up boxing altogether.
@@melapelas4092 lol
1:16 - 1:17 that left hook could move a tank lol
the business handler he's fought Lennox Lewis.
It's actually cut, I had to investigate to see if the guy could actually throw such a killer hook
Calm down guys it’s cut up
Justin Fortune... that was some compact explosive power ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
Holy cow, that dude's got some power!!!
that guy has some serious power
fast as fuck too that left hook
technique + body weight + muscle = dead as fuck.
I could hit as hard as that guy easy
that guy is justin fortune former heavyweight and present manny pacquiao conditioning coach.
fredie roach us also is a former boxer
@Chris Jones How quaint.
wow, my trainer taught me the same way to throw that hook, how ur palms should be facing & twisting those hands on straight shots. Amazing fundamentals. .this video bro came out 30yrs ago when I first set foot in my local gym for getting in fights at my school.. mom&dad knew right where to drop me off.
Pendulum-Swing-2021
You're babbling shittt/making nonsense up via a new TH-cam account.
Please...just stop.
I don't do that cause I've hit a heavy bag like that and my pinky hurt so instead I keep my fist vertical when hitting the heavy and fighting cause if your opponent goes under your hook you could hit his cranium and with your fist horizontal you could hurt your hand
I was a 6'0 welterweight at 15 years old and sparred with a guy of the same stature who hit like that - anyways, pretty sure I got brain damage..totally worth it though.
Nobody asked.
@Money Maywinner aye bro 185 or wtv at 6 foot is very good shape fatass lmao sorry he wasn’t built like Paulo costa?
The greatest ROACH alive
This man is a lethal weapon
That guy, he has a great punching power, and Freddie,,, he's a really Boxing expert👍👏🥊🇵🇭🇵🇭
That is probably the best right straight I’ve ever seen straight out straight back the second right straight he throws absolutely fantastic
Lesson from the legend 👌🏿
I love that guy on your profile
*Freddie Roach is a fucking Greek God*
PacMan got lucky he ran into Freddie Roach
And teddy atlas was an idiot for rejecting young pac hahaha
They both were lucky to have met each other. Pacquiao was already a complete fighter and world champion when he met Freddie, but Freddie taught Pacquiao how to really throw his lead hook. The one they later called "Manila Ice" because it knocked opponents out cold, and Pacquiao helped get Freddie in the hall of fame as a coach. I was lucky enough to meet both gentleman in General Santos City (GenSan). Legends.
I always get a little injured when trowing hooks. I'm not quite sure about my hand angle and what part of the knuckles should have contact with the objective.
Make sure you keep your hand stays straight with your wrist
+Diego Martin Hernández same dislocated my rotator cuff afew times throwing the left hook
+Ben T you are probably using most of your shoulder for the punch, the power comes from the legs, rotational power from the core and hips
+Diego Martin Hernández Sounds like my problem, I got the idea from a weightlifting video that thumb down rotates your shoulder too much, like straight bar bench presses always injure me - their advice was to do dumbbell bench presses with elbows tucked in this is a more natural position for your shoulder so I think for boxing hooks your shoulder will be stronger thumbs up.
+Diego Martin Hernández I used to throw my hooks with my palm facing the ground, now I throw my hooks with my palm facing my body and I don't have any more issues.
@marrerogecko
I learned it both ways and I feel like my rotator cuff is safer with a palm in position. I watched a Freddie Roach highlight reel of his fights in the 80's and he seems to use both positions depending on his body position. If he's shifting his head off to the side and ducking while throwing it he seems to go palm down but if he's still up right it appears palm in. I've seen this happen to most fighters who support a palm down position. Just what I've observed anyway.
Justin's left hook is amazing. Really really fast, and that bag goes 'bang'. Gj gj
Usually if they said you are fighting a guy called Justin you might think you had a chance. This would be a lifetime error and potentially mean all future meals were via a straw.
God damn that right has a nice sound to it.
You can really see how deeply harmed Freddie has been by Parkinson's disease in the past 8+ years. Sad and moving.
What's that?
@@ssamdog26 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_disease
In this video, Roach's movement and speech are far less impaired than they are now. It's terrific, at least, that he is so passionate about boxing and training boxers; having goals to focus on no doubt helps him maintain a positive outlook on life despite his own limitations.
Cannabis/cbd has helped Freddie Roach bigtime. You can see videos from 10 years ago where he can't talk as good as he can now
Jesus, that guy has a punch that could stun an elephant. Fast too
Lol this vid almost 10 years old with so many new comments
Great punches
1:14
Did the video skip or he's just that fast?
It definitely skipped
He Is JuSt WaY tOo FaSt.
Erehe Mias Definitely skipped. Don’t look at him look at Freddy holding the bag makes it obvious.
Justin got power in them punches
Is that Justin fortune?
@@TheBubblemouth Looks like him
"if the good hook misses, the elbow lands" HAHAHAHA
My son meet freddie at the wild card gym, he said he was a lovely guy, top man ,top trainer.
Yeah...if you aren't a boxer and your hands aren't conditioned, don't throw a hook with your palm facing the floor. Rotate your hand 90 degrees so your thumb is facing up.
You land a glancing blow to someone's head head doing it Freddy's way, you're likely to break your index knuckle.
Great tip, you won't generate any more power with palms down, my coach told me too throw with what was more comfortable, I plams.uo offers more protection
No, I can say that palm facing down is a lot better otherwise you will injure your wrist like me..
@@dagnut
Even good technique and wraps gave me tendonitis over the years that only 2 quartozone shots cleared up with rest.. sometimes your wrist simply is gonna decay coz striking something with that torque n force isnt natural.
Proper technique however trumps all else.. i agree with the dude above re palms down after going thru that rehab
Everyone i know has shit elbows n wrists
@@JackyTMusic I'm not sure why it makes a difference or what the debate is? You're wrists are fucked anyway?
Throwing a left hook with palms down can damage your thumb if your throwing it too long.
@boxingnut1986 Agreed. It's really preference, but tactically, throwing the hook over the top of your opponents jab/cross is much more accurate with the palm down letting you slip over the shoulder. If the target is covering with both hands, you can slip the hook behind his guard (near the ear) with the palm facing. Also palm inward against an orthodox fighting using the shell so you can adjust the punch (from half/half to hook) if he changes levels (ducks right when he hides his chin). So Both
Wish I had Freddy in my corner!
Freddie is one of the best trainers of all time
Power starts with correct body position. Most pivot on the balls of the foot but to deliver bone breaking power, you have to pivot on the balls of both heels. Left foot forward and right foot back. Left foot is the brace and the right foot is the base. You used double compression for maximum tissue damage. It all boils down on how much weight you can hang on the person you are hitting.
Steve Hammel I don't understand the difference you're explaining between the ball of the foot and the ball of the heel. Can you elaborate I want to understand
Dr. Siracha he’s crazy wrong don’t listen to him anyway
Dr. Siracha think he meant cock and balls
@@nickcaesar7650 Made me laugh my insides out.
been looking for these! thanks for uploading :)
They cut out a frame at 1:16 so it looks faster
Maybe, but they didn't bother at 2.00 - 2.05 and he still looks pretty capable.
I saw the lie also.
great video to learn from.... I love freddie roach he is awesome!!
I think he throws the hook with the thump up not like Freddie has shown it
Both hooks are good and powerfull it depends on the coach, some coaches teach you that hook that Freddy showed him and some teach you the thumb up hook
+Interfectio I use both types of hooks depending on distance and my intention. Thumb facing up hits harder and longer range but thumb parallel to the floor is faster and lands at a different angle.
+oexel yea me too, the hook with the thumb parallel to the floor Iam only using on short distance
+Interfectio you have it backwards
Alejandro Rodriguez
Yeah me too this is actually the only type of hook I thro\/\/
He has RIDICULOUS POWER!
Freddie would prob been an amazing fighter still if he hadn’t started developing Parkinson’s disease. God bless u Freddy, u really blessed many with championships because u are a champion my friend.
He said himslef he wouldnt have been. He said he had the brain and boxing IQ but his body would never do what he needed it to do.
@@elstoniobanderas4091 He kinda suck as a fighter and should had quit when he still had his faculties cause he took alot of punches. He's a great Trainer but he should have known when to call it quits cause boxing is like a drug
@@reycesarcarino4653 Agree.
@1234NAna12 I read that with the longer/wider hooks the palp should face you. With the close range/infighting hook the palm should face down. I makes sense, specially if you practice just the hand/elbow movement a bit with no body. The short range hook kinda snaps down, while the longer ranges make you snap towards your chest. It would make sense to keep the palm of the hand at the direction in which the snapping motion is in to avoid injury and add more power through better alignment. My 2c :)
Dude is a heavy hitter.
Freddy is a legend. That guy has Mike Tyson power, KO power.
Freddie Roach says to rotate the front foot, but I've seen many boxers like Wilder who don't do this, is there a difference in result?
Joeel more power when you rotate the foot but the hook can be telegraphed that way as you move a bit more
Because bag work looks prettier. Once you box you realise most of the stuff they teach you doesn't work and only looks good, I've never once pivoted my foot when throwing a lead hook. I use my upper body because you are moving around too much to plant your feet and twist your foot. Most people are too fast and too far away for twisting your foot. If you try using this I guarantee you will hit nothing but air. Unless your hitting someone really slow and flat footed then maybe you have a chance.
Really guys? He is saying to pivot your foot because this ensures that the hips twist. Once you get the hang of it, you don't need to twist your foot anymore. In case you couldn't tell, this isn't is a video for expert boxers!
agreed
Dat Boi damn you must suck at boxing 😂 hooks are to be thrown deep in the pocket. If you’re throwing hooks and hitting air, you need to go back to pad drills and footwork sessions on how to close distance
@zagabel Both ways work. Don't really worry about the distinction. I've heard all kinds of explanations for each--vertical fist has more power, horizontal fist has better flexibility of range, vertical fist is less likely to hurt your wrist and hand, horizontal fist is easier to connect. The only explanation that really seems to make a difference to me is that, when punching in MMA gloves, throw the hook like Freddie teaches--the other kind have a tendency to connect w/ the fingers.
1:19 dude was moving faster then the frame rate of the video
@airbbll08 jab is one of many leads. it's not the only lead. as you get more comfortable and learn the game better, you realize right hands leads, uppercut leads, left hook leads are just as effective. everything has a time and place. right hand lead, left uppercut overhand right is a beautiful, effective combo without a jab.
That guy is one of the best coaches of all time, Freddie Roach. He has parkinson's disease.
Hey are you still alive?
Just making sure you made 2020 safely with the rest of us lol
@@vitroa9512 they could have easily changed accounts or quit youtube. This is my 4th account
@@vitroa9512 yeah im here
@lboogie1338 no, the reason MMA, which generally uses Muay Thai for standup striking, positions the thumb up (palm facing body) for hooks is for clinching....especially if you miss with a hook, your hand is already in position to clinch.
better to be friends with Justin
Beautiful
If a good left hook missus an elbow lands
A good right hooks lands they get a dick in the ear.
Freddie's speech is improving keep it up coach
FoxU old video
jesus christ 1:17
haha i thought the same thing too at first! go back and watch again, it was cut / edited.
oh yeah you're right, looking at it a few times it's not as amazing lol
@MEJIAV1F3W I think that its all just depends on your personal preference and individual body type. Although many people say that throwing your hooks with the palm down is quicker/faster while throwing them with you palm facing towards yourself is usually more powerful due to the bicep being involved more. A lot of people also say that when you throw a hook with your palm facing yourself you leave your hand less prone to breakage or injury.
Not a single person seems to be able to tell my why twisting your wrist during a punch adds "power" or "sting". There's no science behind it that I can think of. Physically, twisting your wrist shouldn't add any power at all as the motion is in a different direction to that of the punch.
All I can conclude is that people just think it's a cool/quirky thing to say, as if it's some sort of ancient boxing secret.
Any takers?
It's not always appropriate, but it comes down to basic physics applied to your arm's complex biomechanics. Think of the formula Force = Mass x Acceleration.
If you wait to twist your wrist at the last possible moment before impact, you are moving your wrist muscles into the punch DURING the punch's impact. You are effectively creating extra acceleration to add to the formula. It requires extremely precise timing and is something natural strikers do well without ever thinking much about it.
This is true for hooks, uppercuts, and everything in between because their circular swinging motion must be reconciled with the angle you should apply force at for greatest effect. When mass is applied at a direct angle - perpendicular to the target, aka 90 degrees - it has its greatest total force. Applied at a lesser angle, the same mass and acceleration result in less total force.
This is NOT true for jabs and crosses because there is no need to twist; you're already applying force as directly as you can.
The one drawback to this technique is if you mistime the twist, or your opponent moves in an unexpected way, you run the risk of breaking your wrist since it isn't perfectly straight.
Colton Hammond thanks for the explanation but I'm afraid I still cant see it.
I assume by "wrist muscles" you are referring to the muscles in the forearm, as there are no muscles specifically at the wrist. But twisting your wrist doesn't "move your muscles into the punch". I'm not really sure what you mean by that...
I can certainly accept that the twisting action could cause the opponents skin to cut/tear more easily which is obviously advantageous. But as for adding more force... I just can't see it.
Anyway thanks again, i'll let you know if I find out any more :)
To put it as simply as I can, bending the wrist at the last moment puts a little more acceleration into the motion as well as hits at a better angle. Not right for everyone.
Colton Hammond Ah I think I see where we are getting mixed up here. I am talking about TWISTING the wrist (as if you are unlocking a door with a key for example). You seem to talking about BENDING the wrist at the joint.
Yes I can see how that would add a little bit of extra force if you can time it right, but sounds VERY risky as far as damaging your wrist is concerned.
The most important thing twisting your wrist does is it protects you. Throw a string of punches as hard as you can at absolutely nothing, and you're going to hurt your joints. Twisting your wrists prevents hyper extension and saves your elbow.
That punch looks way to dangerous XD so much power!
The guys who've never heard of MMA seem so amused by "If a good hook misses, the elbow lands."
Elbow strikes exist dudes.
We think it's funny cause elbows are not allowed in boxing dude.
@@Dissenter A year later, I am much more mature and understand now. I had a superiority complex because I was an MMA fighter among boxers, but now I'm pleased to say i've embraced the sweet science as a part of my style. On behalf of my past self, I apologize.
Nice video, thanks for the upload
Nice to take tips from an expert
"precision beats power and timing beats speed" McGregor
Tyler Joyner mcgregor is not a boxer and has crap punching power compared to boxers
Tyler Joyner didn’t do much against mayweather LOL
“Floyd beat McGregor’s ass” Floyd Sr.
Mcgregor is a loser.
Thats true but can mcgregor answer this: what beats khabib??
I come back to this video every year or so to check my speed and power against fortunes...I’ll be back next year lol
that guy hits like a girl...
prndandrd1 you can talk
bet you cant even hit a bag
U should have just kept quiet u make yourself look bad
that's what she said
@zagabel palm facing down is for power, palm facing you is less powerful but theres a higher chance u could injure ur thumb or wrist hooking with palm facing down
Turning the shoulder allows you to more easily extend your arm in a natural fashion, and overall generally allows one to strike more powerfully.
This is how I learn to throw a hook.. literally watching this video right here when I was a teenager I would practice drilling technique and id throw 250 punches every single night sometimes I would throw combinations or I would do different things but no matter what I had least would practice one technique an hour before I got to shower... The hooks I throw i throw with that same exact technique.. it's the most powerful punch you can throw in a short distance... I throw two different types of crosses a straight right and then a looping punch.. I felt and that were cut it going forward and then a counter uppercut backwards... That was my point practice your techniques in a fighting simulation like going forward and then counter
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You're the BEST trainer in Boxing!!
Floyd senior is
@@theredninja2817 how many world champions besides a few??!!!???
That dude has a pretty solid right cross and his hook knocked the letters off my keyboard.
Roach teaching how to fight dirty😂
@zagabel The advantage of palm towards you is good for the street. You either hit clean or miss clean. But with the palm turned down you may occasionally strike only with the smallest knuckle - which breaks easily!
Freddie is an expert man knows the game in and out
Elbow lands🤔 Freddy was a dirty fighter🥊
I dunno. Dont mind a good palm in hook myself if the occasion calls for it.
@brad Welsh I learned the palm down Technique 2ND... But the energy from the rotating of your hand makes the punch shaper And harder
@scatcatsid when you said this it sounds quite possibly so i looked at some fights and seen most long range hooks thrown palm toward them selves. you sure thats right? i find the shorter hooks is easier to put more power and a slight downward angle when thrown palm down
I don't get why Freddie said palm down in that video. That's more of a martial arts style hook, not boxing and it doesn't have near the power. I've never seen any of his fighters hook like that. Even his guy hitting the bag reverted to throwing it with the thumb up. That's when he really started hitting it. Mad respect to FR. He's a hall of fame coach, but as soon as I transitioned from kickboxing to boxing, my boxing coach trained me to start throwing the hook with the thumb up and that made a remarkable difference in power. Everything else, I agree with completely. Not that he needed my approval or anything anyway. Lol
love Freddie roach
People keep saying that Freddie is teaching to box dirty, but I think it’s more about the philosophy of throwing a proper hook. What you should be thinking when working on your form.
Why my knuckles hurt when I throw that shot am I doing something wrong why in martial arts they show the palms to open net when doing that technique ?
Wow very powerful punch!
That's one good way to throw a good left hook if your that big another good way is to cock your left foot on the right side of the opponent and follow through from your foot to your leg through your backbone then complete it with your left hook with your shoulder and arm. But that dude's a beast so he can kind of stand there solid and still throw a hard left hook
I feel I have more power in my left hook if I don't turn it over. Its just a habit from years ago , u agree with Freddie, the left hook is the best punch. Opposite for a lefty.
Short but gold.