This is a great video, it is really a bunch of variations (plus a re-enter and roll and a scramble with a paddle float) but really the key is we come in all different shapes and sizes, and not every technique works for every BODY. Well done. Thanks!
This was great. Just took my second rescue class and failed at doing a paddle float rescue, but the instructor had me doing the same method over and over. Good to see I have options to try differently when redoing the class.
I owned a sea kayaking company in Maine for several years and when instructing new paddlers my first suggestion was "Don't tip over!" Happily I was able to follow my own advice for many years and many thousands of miles of ocean paddling under all sorts of challenging conditions. While there's nothing inherently wrong with practicing self rescues the fact remains that "not tipping over" is job one! Self rescue in difficult conditions is a very "iffy" scenario for all but the most nimble and experienced paddlers. As veteran New Zealand sea kayaker John Dowd once yelled while watching a self rescue demonstration at a sea kayaking symposium we both delivered talks at in Maine, "I bloody well would like to see you try that in storm conditions!"
Good words of wisdom! Appreciate it! It points out - consider practicing in conditions once you have in the quiet conditions. And, make sure you have a measure of extra proficiency in lesser or no conditions. Another factor, the paddle float will give you additional strength when the paddler may lack strength or encounters more challenging conditions.
A vital point to ever accomplishing all this. It's a dumpster fire of fatigue and failure if you don't aim your kayak downwind first before trying to climb on. The waves and wind have to be coming from behind and split around the stern equally. Same with a roll. If the wind keeps knocking you back under, relax, setup on the other side, and roll up.
Fantastic video which show me differnt ways to train that. One question left: How is the loop coming to the opposit paddle blade (under the kayak)??? Can you explain me? Thx for this excellent moves!!! KR Henry
Hello Henry, Good question! Put the paddle through the loop on the other side, take the loop under the boat, then wrap the rope/webbing around the paddle on your side until you achieve the desired length of hanging loop on your side.
@@nealschroeter9702 Yes, so easy, if one knows, how to!! After such descriptions I always feel like a donkey!! 🤣🤣 So I will create a slack line that will fit for my boat and me, THANK YOU a lot! 👏👏
Certainly helpful for someone with some strength in lower and upper back, which I'm not. The half-roll looks interesting, since you don't start fully upside down and disoriented, wonder whether you need the paddle float for that?
That's why it's nice to have some options. With some practice, you'll likely find one way that works best for you, then keep it practiced for when some day you might need it. Without the paddle float, the re-entry & roll technique requires a good amount of proficiency in rolling to begin with
The cowboy re-entry from the stern is easy on the back. It starts at 5:05. Keep your weight low and use a good leg kick to propel yourself onto the rear deck. As you get better at the technique you can start closer to the cockpit, but starting way back on the stern where it has little volume makes it easy to get on deck.
@@timomomomo969thanks. I have compressed something in my mid-back trying to get on the kayak, it still hurts when I stand upright. Tried the cowboy technique but just can't get on the rear from the side. As soon as I managed to crawl on board from dead behind, I flipped, probably because there is no stability whatsoever there due to pointy stern. It's a 10 ft kayak with rear bulkhead.
@@maricallo6143 A bad back makes everything more difficult. If you can find a way to get on deck, then you can use your paddle with float as an outrigger. But as a fellow chronic back injury sufferer my recommendation would be to get your back as healthy as you can first. I would seek treatment and a PT. But for some simple relief, google "Dr. Cox exercises for the lower back". These helped me get from zero back to a place where I was healthy enough to start working more seriously thru PT on my back. If nothing else the exercises may give you some temporary relief, they often calm things down for my back. I herniated my L4 and L5 badly enough to have a doctor recommend surgery. I resisted and took the long road thru PT. Took about 4 years to get close to my old self, and the benefits to my core from paddling got me the rest of the way. Wishing you good health.
Hi Neal, what I'm wondering is; you could carry a short strap with a foot loop at one end where you could attach the strap to your paddle up next to the boat and use that to push yourself up and into the boat. My wife and I just bought kayaks and we are in our 70's so we need a really easy way to get back in. I will try this method and see if it works. Neale in Hampstead Md.
Right, they call it a "Stirrup" - You use about a 10-12 foot moderately heavy rope or webbing, put it over the paddle on the distant side of the kayak, wrap it under the kayak, then wrap it over your side a number of times till the loop hanging down is the right length for your foot to use it as a step. When you step on it, it should pull on both sides equally.
if you cut a 20cm length off your garden hose and thread the rope through that you might find it is much easier to stand on - the loop stays open and the hose doesnt feel like its cutting into your foot like the rope can. You can leave the hose on the rope and have a permanent loop on one end of a 2m length of rope also or have a hose loop on each end. Its easier on you and the cost is minimal.
Hi Damian, I used a 3/4" PVC 90 degree elbow and trimmed it down to about 5" or so. The electrical PVC is very rigid and the 90 has a nice contoured shape to it. I first looked at using rope but I think I might just use a long cam strap because they don't stretch, are cheap and then use a carabiner for the other end. That way, I can use it for a stand up strap or a recovery strap. Cam straps can be gotten as long as 16'. @@yt.damian
@yt.damian yes, or at least a length only long enough to hold an open loop for your foot open (unless thats what you meant!). One disadvantage, without something like that, is its very easy for the loop to go over your foot as you get in. Now a little tangle problem. Having said that, I have a friend who was quite heavy and this method was most successful for her. Even more successful than an assisted rescue. Another friend has the stirrup rope attached on the inside of her cockpit, behind the seat. She leaves it attached, and while in the water, pulls it out, loops over the paddle (once or twice), then under the kayak then over the paddle on the other side. She placed a short length of pvc to create an open step. Also made the loop smaller so her foot won't slide through it.
Good question! I do. However, I have broken a paddle in the past. Whatever the paddle, as cheaper paddles likely break even easier, I'm careful to keep my hand, very close to the kayak. In my experience, the hand force on the paddle is more than the foot.
I doubt you could break a carbon paddle in these recoveries, they are incredibly strong and resilient. If you were to put too much force onto a shaft during a float recovery... you would just sink the float. I have broken a carbon paddle before... this was due to doing 'wavewheels' over the crest of approaching waves... repeatedly, for years. This entails planting your paddle in the face of a breaking wave and throwing all of your weight and momentum into the shaft, cartwheeling your kayak into the air over the wave.... lot's and lot's of force!
Well presented video, however demonstrating on a lake with relatively calm water? Showing these methods in the sea with waves would be a far better demonstration and a great deal more difficult to accomplish. Thank you for posting though, it may help someone.
I've only used inflatable, as they take up less space with storage. I have attached bungies underneath the deck to hold a pump & a rolled up paddle float.
This is a great video, it is really a bunch of variations (plus a re-enter and roll and a scramble with a paddle float) but really the key is we come in all different shapes and sizes, and not every technique works for every BODY. Well done. Thanks!
Wow! Thank. You for the detailed lessons!
My pleasure!
Cowboy re-entry FTW. Nice video !
This was great. Just took my second rescue class and failed at doing a paddle float rescue, but the instructor had me doing the same method over and over. Good to see I have options to try differently when redoing the class.
Yeah, try different ways & see what works easiest.
Muchas Gracias Señor por el vídeo.
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You’re an excellent teacher and the vid is great with the slow motion reply thing. Most excellent!
I owned a sea kayaking company in Maine for several years and when instructing new paddlers my first suggestion was "Don't tip over!" Happily I was able to follow my own advice for many years and many thousands of miles of ocean paddling under all sorts of challenging conditions. While there's nothing inherently wrong with practicing self rescues the fact remains that "not tipping over" is job one! Self rescue in difficult conditions is a very "iffy" scenario for all but the most nimble and experienced paddlers. As veteran New Zealand sea kayaker John Dowd once yelled while watching a self rescue demonstration at a sea kayaking symposium we both delivered talks at in Maine, "I bloody well would like to see you try that in storm conditions!"
Good words of wisdom! Appreciate it!
It points out - consider practicing in conditions once you have in the quiet conditions. And, make sure you have a measure of extra proficiency in lesser or no conditions. Another factor, the paddle float will give you additional strength when the paddler may lack strength or encounters more challenging conditions.
Oh death, how alluring
many thanks for this helpful demonstration of self rescue!
great video, thank you. most important is not how many times you watched video - it's how many times you practiced...
Thanks for these tips and options, very helpful information!!
Great! This video needs more exposure.
A vital point to ever accomplishing all this. It's a dumpster fire of fatigue and failure if you don't aim your kayak downwind first before trying to climb on. The waves and wind have to be coming from behind and split around the stern equally. Same with a roll. If the wind keeps knocking you back under, relax, setup on the other side, and roll up.
Well done Neal!
Thanks for this! I’ll be trying them all on for size :)
Fantastic video which show me differnt ways to train that. One question left: How is the loop coming to the opposit paddle blade (under the kayak)??? Can you explain me? Thx for this excellent moves!!! KR Henry
Hello Henry,
Good question!
Put the paddle through the loop on the other side, take the loop under the boat, then wrap the rope/webbing around the paddle on your side until you achieve the desired length of hanging loop on your side.
@@nealschroeter9702 Yes, so easy, if one knows, how to!! After such descriptions I always feel like a donkey!! 🤣🤣 So I will create a slack line that will fit for my boat and me, THANK YOU a lot! 👏👏
Brilliant
Certainly helpful for someone with some strength in lower and upper back, which I'm not. The half-roll looks interesting, since you don't start fully upside down and disoriented, wonder whether you need the paddle float for that?
That's why it's nice to have some options. With some practice, you'll likely find one way that works best for you, then keep it practiced for when some day you might need it. Without the paddle float, the re-entry & roll technique requires a good amount of proficiency in rolling to begin with
The heel hook with paddle float requires very little upper body strength, though some people find flexibility a limiting factor
The cowboy re-entry from the stern is easy on the back. It starts at 5:05. Keep your weight low and use a good leg kick to propel yourself onto the rear deck. As you get better at the technique you can start closer to the cockpit, but starting way back on the stern where it has little volume makes it easy to get on deck.
@@timomomomo969thanks. I have compressed something in my mid-back trying to get on the kayak, it still hurts when I stand upright. Tried the cowboy technique but just can't get on the rear from the side. As soon as I managed to crawl on board from dead behind, I flipped, probably because there is no stability whatsoever there due to pointy stern. It's a 10 ft kayak with rear bulkhead.
@@maricallo6143 A bad back makes everything more difficult. If you can find a way to get on deck, then you can use your paddle with float as an outrigger.
But as a fellow chronic back injury sufferer my recommendation would be to get your back as healthy as you can first. I would seek treatment and a PT. But for some simple relief, google "Dr. Cox exercises for the lower back". These helped me get from zero back to a place where I was healthy enough to start working more seriously thru PT on my back. If nothing else the exercises may give you some temporary relief, they often calm things down for my back.
I herniated my L4 and L5 badly enough to have a doctor recommend surgery. I resisted and took the long road thru PT. Took about 4 years to get close to my old self, and the benefits to my core from paddling got me the rest of the way. Wishing you good health.
Hi Neal, what I'm wondering is; you could carry a short strap with a foot loop at one end where you could attach the strap to your paddle up next to the boat and use that to push yourself up and into the boat. My wife and I just bought kayaks and we are in our 70's so we need a really easy way to get back in. I will try this method and see if it works. Neale in Hampstead Md.
Right, they call it a "Stirrup" - You use about a 10-12 foot moderately heavy rope or webbing, put it over the paddle on the distant side of the kayak, wrap it under the kayak, then wrap it over your side a number of times till the loop hanging down is the right length for your foot to use it as a step. When you step on it, it should pull on both sides equally.
if you cut a 20cm length off your garden hose and thread the rope through that you might find it is much easier to stand on - the loop stays open and the hose doesnt feel like its cutting into your foot like the rope can. You can leave the hose on the rope and have a permanent loop on one end of a 2m length of rope also or have a hose loop on each end. Its easier on you and the cost is minimal.
Hi Damian, I used a 3/4" PVC 90 degree elbow and trimmed it down to about 5" or so. The electrical PVC is very rigid and the 90 has a nice contoured shape to it. I first looked at using rope but I think I might just use a long cam strap because they don't stretch, are cheap and then use a carabiner for the other end. That way, I can use it for a stand up strap or a recovery strap. Cam straps can be gotten as long as 16'. @@yt.damian
@yt.damian yes, or at least a length only long enough to hold an open loop for your foot open (unless thats what you meant!).
One disadvantage, without something like that, is its very easy for the loop to go over your foot as you get in. Now a little tangle problem.
Having said that, I have a friend who was quite heavy and this method was most successful for her. Even more successful than an assisted rescue.
Another friend has the stirrup rope attached on the inside of her cockpit, behind the seat. She leaves it attached, and while in the water, pulls it out, loops over the paddle (once or twice), then under the kayak then over the paddle on the other side. She placed a short length of pvc to create an open step. Also made the loop smaller so her foot won't slide through it.
Hi Neal, can you do the ‘legs on paddle’ methods with a Carbon paddle? Don’t want it to break 😅
Good question! I do. However, I have broken a paddle in the past. Whatever the paddle, as cheaper paddles likely break even easier, I'm careful to keep my hand, very close to the kayak. In my experience, the hand force on the paddle is more than the foot.
I doubt you could break a carbon paddle in these recoveries, they are incredibly strong and resilient. If you were to put too much force onto a shaft during a float recovery... you would just sink the float. I have broken a carbon paddle before... this was due to doing 'wavewheels' over the crest of approaching waves... repeatedly, for years. This entails planting your paddle in the face of a breaking wave and throwing all of your weight and momentum into the shaft, cartwheeling your kayak into the air over the wave.... lot's and lot's of force!
Все прекрасно рассказано и показано))))
easy to learn the roll...
Well presented video, however demonstrating on a lake with relatively calm water? Showing these methods in the sea with waves would be a far better demonstration and a great deal more difficult to accomplish. Thank you for posting though, it may help someone.
Do you prefer an inflatable paddle float or a foam paddle float?
I've only used inflatable, as they take up less space with storage. I have attached bungies underneath the deck to hold a pump & a rolled up paddle float.
@@nealschroeter9702 good idea 👍 thanks
Make your own outrigger lol