At the risk of sounding repetitive Charlie, another really useful video delivered in your very practical and clear style. Thank you. Rail tank cars, or rail cars as the non rail industry call them are really quite fascinating particularly the transition period from steam to diesel. That popular old Airfix kit which is still retailed by Dapol, of the 35T tank, was quite a landmark design. At the time these vehicles significantly increased the capacity whilst retaining the automatic vacuum brake. Further increase to the 45T vehicle using the very similar chassis but with the chunkier barrel also vacuum brakes. There are published photos of trains of these working out of Stanlow, Ellesmere Port, Heysham and South Wales, but the vehicle owners went through a period of brake conversion whilst the 45T vehicles were quite young, and air brakes became pretty standard apart from smaller and slightly older fleets such as some ofthe Esso vehicles.
Not really Charlie.In this hobby we are all blessed with our own skills and knowledge, even those we didn't know we had.!!! For example your lovely little camera sounds and actions on your opener. I love the little focusing thing on your sign. It is just a matter of sharing, which I have always been glad to @@ChadwickModelRailway . In your case though I imagine you must have huge piles of inbound messaging via social media and youtube.
Hey Charlie! I’ve always been terrified at the thought of weathering but you’ve really helped me to feel more confident to have a go. Thank you!! Look forward to the air brush video. I’ve done spraying on furniture as part of my job, but yours is a different art again!
Hi Edward, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. I’ve finished the “introduction to airbrushing video” which goes live at noon on Friday. I do hope that it helps. Regards Charlie
Nice one Charlie. One technique I have used in the past when doing batches or singles, is to have the item roll down a piece of old track past the airbrush when doing underframe muck - ensures wheels get an even coat rather than bits missed behind the w irons. Keep em coming bud.
@@ChadwickModelRailway I mean, for the price I paid ($40 for 3 wagons including shipping) it’s pretty easy to justify especially when most charge $20 for shipping from the UK. Good practice for painting locos and re-numbering them in future as very few come in Scotrail colors!
'The price just keeps going up' Model railroading in a nutshell.... But oh how do we love this amazing hobby.... Thanks for this educational video Charlie, i'm a bit scared to try, but i have some old cheap lima tankers that i may retrieve from the loft for this
Excellent demo thaks. Inspiring. Around 30years ago. Shell began removing their emblem from their sea-going tankers and other oil companies started to follow. I believe it was in reaction to various accidents and disasters, giving the companies a bad reputation. So the famous scallop of Shell disappeared forever. Im guessing this is a major reason for the disappearance of company logos on rail and road tankers as well. Also they charter pout many ships and vehicles to other companies. so the average person wold not have a clue who the acyual user of the the vehicles was. Makes for a rather dull array of railway wagons that's for sure. :-(
"What could possibly go wrong?" I have learned: Never, EVER, ask that question! You are bound to find out! Great video, Charlie! I like your weathering job!
Hi Charlie, that was a great how to video, and I must say you have done an amazing job of the weathering on those tank wagon, and I am with you you don't want them all looking the same some would have more muck on than others. Regards George..
Ahh, a true artiste 👨🎨 Rembrandt could not have done better. I’m quite impressed with the layout. I’ve not been watching your episodes in any order, just looking for what interests me most given my daily moods. I’ve enjoyed everything of yours I’ve watched, Thanks and keep on chugging on!
Regarding vehicles conveying fuel products Charlie, there were basically Type A and Type B. The former were regarded as more dangerous and had red solebars, whilst class B vehicles tended to convey gas oil and bitumen which were less hazardous. Importantly from a railway point of view, tank wagons which convey dangerous goods are regarded as discharged when the product has been drained, rather than empty. This means the vehicles will probably still contain the fumes from the previous product they conveyed, so are still regarded as dangerous goods. Very interesting topic Thanks again Charlie
Mostly petrol, avgas and highly flammable stuff Charlie. Diesel which is known as gas oil on the railway is class B so used to go in the black tanks, back then. More livery variation these days though, but generally silver and grey were class A and black were class B as a simple rule.
Dear Charlie , a nice video , clearly explained. Re barrier wagons and brake vehicles. Prior to 3 Star wagons , oil tanks were either unbaked or through piped. The 1959 vacuum braked tanks ( like the Airfix B )were vacuum braked , and some were later air braked , hence the 3 Stars. According to the BR Signalling Appendix, only Type A Petrol wagons required barrier wagons, type B Heavy Oils did not require a barrier. Despite this, there are photos showing Type B tanks with barrier wagons. Your presumption that empty Type A tanks were more dangerous, due to remnant fumes is correct, so it may be the the Type A tanks hauled by the xGWR 72xx had been purged and and had maintenance done to them prior to despatch. Many Brake Vans actually were not braked themselves but piped, and the guard had an internal; tap to operate if required. Lastly, the bogie tanks had 2 filling apertures as the filling stations were already laid out for the previous 4w tanks. This is apparent in photos, and can be demonstrated by placing two 4w tanks on an adjacent line to a bogie 100t tank , and you will see how the filling points line up. Nice work, enjoyed your video, thank you. Philip
Excellent video Charlie yes buying new rolling stock can be a real minefield if your aiming for a certain period on your layout it's well worth doing some home work before buying like you i have ended up with lots of unsuitable stock so it's good to know I'm not the only one lol I thought you done a grand job with the weathering i got a long line of wagons to do but keep putting off .. Thanks for sharing ... Cheers Pete
Superb results Charlie and each has there own individuality which of course you want. I really must investigate this airbrush lark at some point. Perhaps your next video will give me some pointers. Paul
Enjoyed the video Charlie and as already stated everything looks better with at least a thin layer of dirt. Look forward to your airbrushing video as I need a bit of a refresher. My needles need replacing and so Ive currently been doing all my weathering with powders and washes. Cheers Paul
Evening Charlie 😊 Hope your enjoying this lovely sunshine ☀️ Another great show me how video 👍🏻 I couldn’t agree more put your own mark on things as getting someone else to do things takes the fun out of modelling 😊 Looking forward to your new episode Cheers Stevie
Excellent job! :) In reality, these Duracell tanker's can be disassembled and repainted red or black.. How i known, there is special stickers to renumber models. After repainting these tanker's can be used as retal. In real world, only big companies can afford their own tankers but smaller companies rent, and sometimes on railways is phenomen like order trains with multiple different type of vagons. Big locomotive or two, drives big order set to sorting point. In sorting point locos leaves one set and grabs prepared set and drive away, but small locomotive pull, push or directly sorting new incoming set. Second way - big mixed order was driven near smaller companies and ordered tanker's from small companies etc was leaved on drive way and momentary picked up by smaller loco.. About sorting center's - here in Latvia, we got an big sorting center with gravity feed.. big order set of tankers etc was stopped on upper side of slow hill, tankers by groups then be disconnected by operator, switching points turned to desired direction and brakes released.. tanker's go down the hill by gravity and after that, switching points change direction again and other type of tankers etc go down to different rails.. Great view to watch. :) How i known, this is very old technologie with fuel economy because in newer sorting center's all job is done by few small locomotives.. That's for some ideas.. never seen something like this in any model railroad..
Very good. May I suggest some Flory Models grime wash. You can airbrush it and as it is clay based you can rub it off with a damp paper towel if you mess up or put too much down in parts. Secondly AK streaking grime enamel washes. I use them on armor and they create very nice subtle streaks down the side. They do various colors.
hi Charlie another great video mate I have weather some of my tanks wagons by hand brush but I will have a go with my airbrush On some of my 100 ton tanks they are in all black livery has they were in the 1980s thanks for the idea clive
Very helpful, I am about to start some experimenting of my own on some old Triang 16 ton wagons in order to practice my own techniques. great video, thanks!
Hi Steve, I think that it’s a case of horses for courses. Removing acrylic paint from your model, once it has dried can be a problem. With enamels it’s much easier. I disagree that acrylics are easier to clean from airbrushes. With the right product, enamels come off easily. The problem is, as you mentioned, the harsh chemicals used.
Something beginners might consider. Spray your vehicle with a coat of enamel varnish then weather in either acrylic or oils. If it all goes wrong you can remove the "dirt" back to the varnish layer and try again
Great video Charlie.. I'm all for tutorials on weathering as it's too often a part of modelling people shy away from. Though I'm not a fan of airbrush weathering it is a good way of starting if you have a huge bundle of wagons or coaches. I do find airbrushed weathering lacks something compared to weathering by hand.. Though at the stage you have those wagons now I'd be looking into some additional touches like some form of streaking on other weathered parts or some areas of rust.. and of course if you fluff it up you can always undo it (to a degree) which in return creates another weathered effect.. so many techniques I use were discovered by bodging it up and trying to wipe it off lol. Keep them rolling. Tim
Hi Tim. I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. You are of course right. I now need get more colour onto it but the use of weathering powders etc I’ll save for another day. Regards Charlie
Nice one Charlie I work for BRail at the Philips petroleum depots at bromsgrove as a wheel tapper as some of small tankers you could hardly see the numbers so heavly stained
Great video Charlie, I think your weathering attempt was well done. I think everything looks better with a little bit of weathering, even if it is only just that.. a little bit. Cheers
SUPERB weathering job and tutorial! I enjoyed it enough to subscribe for sure and looking forward to seeing your other videos on your channel. Thank you sir!
nice lesson on the rack of tank cars. and when to add a buffer car. i am with you on that, would they not be MORE flammable empty? you did a nice job on weathering. just have to remember to change the numbers first.
I prefer your product to the other guy. The grimy first coat made the result look great. Quick question: dilution of the paint--any guidelines? Nicely done. Keep them coming. Thanks.
Very good Charlie. What did you make your 'turntable' out of and what does your spray booth look like? I will not have a lot of room in my garage, (it will be all layout), and I don't think the wife will let me use the kitchen! Cheers. Pete
Hi I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. The turntable is available at most big shows from traders such as Squires. I think you see more of the spray booth in the next video. Regards Charlie
Hi Charlie did you know you said here is that 100 ton mineral wagon not 100 ton tanker wagon 20:55 You have been amazing to watch when I first found your channel I was so impressed and hope my N gauge 1980 to 1990 layout so cheers Bye From luke
If you want weathering tips look to us armour builders , just search tank weathering ..apply to your wagons. I just popped by to see what you train folk do. Dot filters and oil filters is probably what you are after o and maybe some weather powders / pastels chalks
Sorry fella I was up very late last night watching your vids.. That whole paragraph up there is a bit rushed as I was tired. What I was trying to say was that scale modellers and train folk really are not much diffrent from each other, we try to recreate reality in scale and most of that entails heavy machinery exposed to the elements. Only diffrence I can see between us is your models move and can be played with but ours are static and there is no touchy touchy. I seen in the video you had four Duracell carriages you are not using Is it because they look like toys? I think they would be perfect candidates. To be totally repainted and weathered, if there not expensive I will buy one and do a video on it in the future, and weather the buggers in good and proper, Welsh know how to get dirty.
Thanks for that Charlie. Couldn't agree more. I've got a box of items, which I thought I wanted but now don't need, which cost me nearly £500. Need to get on E-bay. Cheers Jim
Great content. I will be adding it to my RxR Clubs Digital Library for those members interested in weathering. However I do have a comment and a question. First the comment. You said you purchased number decals for your car numbers. Here in the U.S. we use ICC profiled Computer Printers to print out our own at much less expense. There are also a number of back office supply companies (FedEx, Staples, Office Depot) as well as online retailers (like Sticker Mate, Vista-print, and Paper Product Direct) who will print out decals from a memory device. As our club has hundreds of rolling stock we find it easier to print out our own along with a QR marker for car registry data base tracking. A way to not only print out numbers but also design and print signage through out the layout. Now my question. I am NOT an experienced weather enthusiast. I see "mucking up" a model as damaging an investment. Not enhancing it. So as you air brush has two functions can it spray the paint and then be used to blow air only to expedite the drying process? Will continue to watch. And see you DOWN THE LINE.
That’s very interesting regarding printing your own decals, something that I will look into. Yes the double action airbrush can be used to dry but I much prefer to allow paint to dry in its own time. I totally understand your point regarding “messing up” decent rolling stock. I just like my trains to have a “real” appearance, as do many folks. I don’t view my purchases as investments, just items that I enjoy. Regards Charlie
Just 1 point weatered models look realistic on a layout pristine ones look out of place and also weathered models (well done ones that is) fetch a better price when sold so in reality if u sold a collection that was all weathered it would probably get a higher price than non weathered tmc for example on ebay u can see examples of price differences As for the decal services i dont think we have similar in uk id definately be interested to know. But u can purchase decal paper here for use in inkjet printers
Stockton Junction Yes, decal paper is available for ink jet printers. That's what NVR/WAS RxR Club uses. My point was the printet must be ICC Profiled. Ink Jet printers not ICC, like my at home Canon, tend to smear the ink and cause an unusable decal. I take that back. Damaged decals can be sliced acd diced for aged exterior wall billboards.
Nice video Charlie, I have quite a few Dapol tank wagons but also about 20 years ago brought 10 Bachmann unpainted fuel tankers from mainly trains at Watchet when I lived in Somerset. What varnish did you seal the finish with matt or satin.
Great advice Charlie.... I’m in need of a rake of old triang Hornby milk containers , I see you weren’t keen on the cheaper wagons any views on what I’m after , or by better one and convert them ? Hope you didn’t mind me asking ...regards Fred
Hi Fred, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video. I think that I would simply buy the tankers, one by one on eBay. That way you will over time, get the tankers you want and spread the cost. Regards Charlie
Hi Charlie, Great weathering, Lord and Butler are my local shop (Well, 20 miles away!). Could you answer the following question. Are the wheels affected by the spraying, do they need cleaning afterwards, or would it be best to remove them before weathering, which is not so easy to do on a loco. Was wondering because I was going to try weathering a loco, I've done some wagons with dry brushing techniques but shyed away from spraying because of the concern over the wheels. Cheers, Rich.
Hi Rich, I would never remove the wheels on wagons. On a Diesel loco I wold remove the body shell and weather them separately. Yes the wheels will need cleaning to maintain their conductivity. I just use white spirit. Regards Charlie
Another great video Charlie and you made a good job of your tanker's. In your next video on airbrushes, may I ask that you give some recommendations to types of airbrushes and compressor's to buy for us folk who have yet to purchase such item's? Many thanks Charlie, always look forward to the videos.
Thanks for sharing Charlie, I have some old plank wagons so I think I might try a bit of weathering on these. What on earth can go wrong (famous last words). Regards, Geoff.
Well I followed your advice, both your instructions within the video and the reply to my comment, I went for it and here it is. th-cam.com/video/mzvpMJX77fE/w-d-xo.html Regards, Geoff. By the way, you get a bit of a mention.
I like those those Hornby Duracell wagons. I know they are not real but they sure are cool. If ever you want to sell them please let me know as I'm trying to build a rake of them. I currently have X5. They look kinda cool behind a small engine like smokey Joe🙂
Charlie, I just finished up a Ratio Models Twin Diesel Tank in OO scale for my U.S. model railroad engine service facility. I was wondering, what is the significance of the two star markings/decals on tank car? This kit has them as well, but being a U.S. base railroad I wasn't sure if they would be prototypical. Great video BTW...
Hi Loumickie, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video. I believe that the stars refer to the octane of the fuel. The best was five star and the worst one star. I do hope that helps. Regards Charlie
Really good video and thanks for taking the effort to edit it so well. Makes viewing so much more enjoyable Have subscribed, will be back for more and the back catalogue as weathering is a way off for me yet. One question: what are the couplings you are using? Are the the Keen ones. That kind of thing is my current focus before I start reducing the rather new off the line look of my rakes!
Hi Ben, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video. My mk2 coaches are fitted with Keen but they aren’t that reliable. My freight stock are mainly kadee, and they are really good. Good track work is important factor as if it’s poorly laid then uncoupling is often the result. Mixing couplings is also a problem such as new and old drop links. Regards Charlie
hi charlie your reason why your paint get blotchy is your air pressure is to LOW your not atomizing the paint you regulate the pait with your finger as ive been painting for many years with a air brushes doing murals on cars plus i find using acrylic paint better to use on trains coaches and such like plus its so cheap you can mix any colour you like and store them in old pop bottles or jars like mixing gey titanium white and lamp black just a touch i mix a litre at a time plus the thinners is water plus there's no chance of a reaction from different colour paints when doing small models i usually spray at 15 psi for close up work like putting on dirt on the wheels or on the ladders for close up work and if you want to mist the tank use around 20 psi or higher using your finger to regulate the amount of paint you put out practice on a piece of paper first to get your desired finish plus you can buy acrylic layers in gloss matt or silk plus they are dirt cheap as well give it a go you will save pounds on paint i assure you that just acrylic artists paint in tube or jars its your choice and they will last for years as you thin them out as you know to the consistency of condensed milk .
Hello Charlie. A long shot, given how old the video is, but do you still have that rake of Duracell tankers? If you don't want them and wish to sell them, I'll take them off your hands.
@@ChadwickModelRailway Thank you. I have sent an email to the address provided on your TH-cam channel. Remember to check your spam/junk folder if it doesn't come up in your inbox.
Hy Charlie, you do a grat and a real job on the hobby. And why don't you rebuilt the Duracel-wagons as Mobilevones? Just dismantling them in their pices - primer them and repaint them as MOBILE wagons? All you have to do is the find the right decal on the internet and the right colour, haven't you? There are several minimum diffrencrsvbetween the tankers due to several suppliers the came from - so mixing them in a longer tanker train gives ann even more realistic appearance of a train on the layout. And after reassembling the exDuracel wagons you do the weathering again and you get an even longer train of MOBILE wagons, don't you? It is a pitty to "waste" the Duracels as a kind of everstanding "shelf ware". Hope it is an idea for a new video to produce - "reanimating your over buyed stock by airbrush & decals". Sorry for my bad English - but I hope you figure out the badic idea I have got.
100 Ton Tanks : .... The photo you posted at 3:28 of a 100 ton tank only has two top hatches, and your model has three ...... That's why there are no fuel stains in the centre on the real example ? . .... Most did have three hatches. .. The photo you chose out of thousands on the web didn't !!
As always Charlie, you have created a superb resource for modellers old and new.
What a heart warming comment Fircombe Hall.
Stay safe. Regards Charlie
At the risk of sounding repetitive Charlie, another really useful video delivered in your very practical and clear style. Thank you.
Rail tank cars, or rail cars as the non rail industry call them are really quite fascinating particularly the transition period from steam to diesel. That popular old Airfix kit which is still retailed by Dapol, of the 35T tank, was quite a landmark design. At the time these vehicles significantly increased the capacity whilst retaining the automatic vacuum brake. Further increase to the 45T vehicle using the very similar chassis but with the chunkier barrel also vacuum brakes. There are published photos of trains of these working out of Stanlow, Ellesmere Port, Heysham and South Wales, but the vehicle owners went through a period of brake conversion whilst the 45T vehicles were quite young, and air brakes became pretty standard apart from smaller and slightly older fleets such as some ofthe Esso vehicles.
Great info Phil, I need to do more research 🧐
Not really Charlie.In this hobby we are all blessed with our own skills and knowledge, even those we didn't know we had.!!! For example your lovely little camera sounds and actions on your opener. I love the little focusing thing on your sign. It is just a matter of sharing, which I have always been glad to @@ChadwickModelRailway . In your case though I imagine you must have huge piles of inbound messaging via social media and youtube.
You’re too kind Phil.
Hey Charlie! I’ve always been terrified at the thought of weathering but you’ve really helped me to feel more confident to have a go. Thank you!! Look forward to the air brush video. I’ve done spraying on furniture as part of my job, but yours is a different art again!
Hi Edward,
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. I’ve finished the “introduction to airbrushing video” which goes live at noon on Friday.
I do hope that it helps.
Regards Charlie
Nice one Charlie. One technique I have used in the past when doing batches or singles, is to have the item roll down a piece of old track past the airbrush when doing underframe muck - ensures wheels get an even coat rather than bits missed behind the w irons. Keep em coming bud.
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Yes that’s a good idea to roll the wagons to do the wheels. Regards Charlie
I just bought the Hornby 3 TTA wagon set. Looks like they’ll be getting re-liveried and TOPS markings added. Doh!
Good luck CO.
@@ChadwickModelRailway I mean, for the price I paid ($40 for 3 wagons including shipping) it’s pretty easy to justify especially when most charge $20 for shipping from the UK. Good practice for painting locos and re-numbering them in future as very few come in Scotrail colors!
I learnt something today Charlie. Thanks for that! I never knew there was a need for barrier wagons, but it kinda makes sense.
Jim
I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards Charlie.
'The price just keeps going up' Model railroading in a nutshell.... But oh how do we love this amazing hobby.... Thanks for this educational video Charlie, i'm a bit scared to try, but i have some old cheap lima tankers that i may retrieve from the loft for this
A good idea Stefan. Take baby steps at first until you get the hang of it, regards Charlie
Excellent demo thaks. Inspiring. Around 30years ago. Shell began removing their emblem from their sea-going tankers and other oil companies started to follow. I believe it was in reaction to various accidents and disasters, giving the companies a bad reputation. So the famous scallop of Shell disappeared forever. Im guessing this is a major reason for the disappearance of company logos on rail and road tankers as well. Also they charter pout many ships and vehicles to other companies. so the average person wold not have a clue who the acyual user of the the vehicles was. Makes for a rather dull array of railway wagons that's for sure. :-(
Great info Terry and much appreciated.
Regards Charlie
Great Weathering & Excellent Video 🙂
Thank you very much Gordon.
You are very talented. Really makes me want to get back into model railways. Love watching your videos
Welcome back to the club Mr D.
"What could possibly go wrong?" I have learned: Never, EVER, ask that question! You are bound to find out! Great video, Charlie! I like your weathering job!
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Flyboy. Regards Charlie
Great paint job Charlie not a lot of difference in the purchased one and your own airbrushing great video very informative best regards Mark
Thanks Mark, much appreciated.
Regards Charlie
Thanks & good point about what not to buy, I also have a “mish mash” rake by not thinking things through. Cool weathering job.
Glad that you enjoyed it David.
Hi Charlie, that was a great how to video, and I must say you have done an amazing job of the weathering on those tank wagon, and I am with you you don't want them all looking the same some would have more muck on than others. Regards George..
Hi George, l’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.
Regards Charlie
Ahh, a true artiste 👨🎨 Rembrandt could not have done better. I’m quite impressed with the layout. I’ve not been watching your episodes in any order, just looking for what interests me most given my daily moods. I’ve enjoyed everything of yours I’ve watched, Thanks and keep on chugging on!
Thanks Jim, you’re too kind mate.
Regarding vehicles conveying fuel products Charlie, there were basically Type A and Type B. The former were regarded as more dangerous and had red solebars, whilst class B vehicles tended to convey gas oil and bitumen which were less hazardous. Importantly from a railway point of view, tank wagons which convey dangerous goods are regarded as discharged when the product has been drained, rather than empty. This means the vehicles will probably still contain the fumes from the previous product they conveyed, so are still regarded as dangerous goods.
Very interesting topic
Thanks again Charlie
Two very interesting comments Phil. So which commodities fell into Class A? Was it both refined diesel and petrol?
Mostly petrol, avgas and highly flammable stuff Charlie.
Diesel which is known as gas oil on the railway is class B so used to go in the black tanks, back then. More livery variation these days though, but generally silver and grey were class A and black were class B as a simple rule.
Thanks Phil.
Dear Charlie , a nice video , clearly explained. Re barrier wagons and brake vehicles. Prior to 3 Star wagons , oil tanks were either unbaked or through piped. The 1959 vacuum braked tanks ( like the Airfix B )were vacuum braked , and some were later air braked , hence the 3 Stars. According to the BR Signalling Appendix, only Type A Petrol wagons required barrier wagons, type B Heavy Oils did not require a barrier. Despite this, there are photos showing Type B tanks with barrier wagons.
Your presumption that empty Type A tanks were more dangerous, due to remnant fumes is correct, so it may be the the Type A tanks hauled by the xGWR 72xx had been purged and and had maintenance done to them prior to despatch. Many Brake Vans actually were not braked themselves but piped, and the guard had an internal; tap to operate if required.
Lastly, the bogie tanks had 2 filling apertures as the filling stations were already laid out for the previous 4w tanks. This is apparent in photos, and can be demonstrated by placing two 4w tanks on an adjacent line to a bogie 100t tank , and you will see how the filling points line up. Nice work, enjoyed your video, thank you. Philip
Blimey Philip you know your stuff. What a mine of information you are.
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video. Regards Charlie
hello & thank you for the sub... welcome aboard... i agree 100% about buffer cars (your barrier cars) empty or full they should be used... vinny
Hi Vinny,
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video.
Regards Charlie
how did i miss this one,Bravo Charlie ,really good job with that ,thanks for the presentation
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it John.
Excellent video Charlie yes buying new rolling stock can be a real minefield if your aiming for a certain period on your layout it's well worth doing some home work before buying like you i have ended up with lots of unsuitable stock so it's good to know I'm not the only one lol I thought you done a grand job with the weathering i got a long line of wagons to do but keep putting off .. Thanks for sharing ... Cheers Pete
Hi Peter,
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video.
Regards Charlie
Superb results Charlie and each has there own individuality which of course you want. I really must investigate this airbrush lark at some point. Perhaps your next video will give me some pointers. Paul
Hi Paul,
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.
Stay tuned for Friday 1200!
Regards Charlie
Enjoyed the video Charlie and as already stated everything looks better with at least a thin layer of dirt. Look forward to your airbrushing video as I need a bit of a refresher. My needles need replacing and so Ive currently been doing all my weathering with powders and washes.
Cheers Paul
Hi Paul, get that new needle on order, in fact get a spare too. I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards Charlie
Evening Charlie 😊 Hope your enjoying this lovely sunshine ☀️ Another great show me how video 👍🏻 I couldn’t agree more put your own mark on things as getting someone else to do things takes the fun out of modelling 😊 Looking forward to your new episode Cheers Stevie
Hi Stevie, I’m so pleased that I’m holding your interest. Leave your trains alone and get on with that tan. Regards Charlie
Great job Charlie , love your sense of humour.
We must keep smiling 😀
Excellent job! :)
In reality, these Duracell tanker's can be disassembled and repainted red or black.. How i known, there is special stickers to renumber models. After repainting these tanker's can be used as retal. In real world, only big companies can afford their own tankers but smaller companies rent, and sometimes on railways is phenomen like order trains with multiple different type of vagons. Big locomotive or two, drives big order set to sorting point. In sorting point locos leaves one set and grabs prepared set and drive away, but small locomotive pull, push or directly sorting new incoming set. Second way - big mixed order was driven near smaller companies and ordered tanker's from small companies etc was leaved on drive way and momentary picked up by smaller loco..
About sorting center's - here in Latvia, we got an big sorting center with gravity feed.. big order set of tankers etc was stopped on upper side of slow hill, tankers by groups then be disconnected by operator, switching points turned to desired direction and brakes released.. tanker's go down the hill by gravity and after that, switching points change direction again and other type of tankers etc go down to different rails.. Great view to watch. :) How i known, this is very old technologie with fuel economy because in newer sorting center's all job is done by few small locomotives..
That's for some ideas.. never seen something like this in any model railroad..
Thanks for the info from Latvia.
You have made some interesting points. Good luck with your layout.
Regards Charlie
Very interesting Charlie. They look very professional. Geoff. W.
I’m so pleased that you like them Geoff.
Another great how to and one to learn from. Thank you. Jerry
Just trying to keep you happy Jerry.
Regards Charlie
Very good. May I suggest some Flory Models grime wash. You can airbrush it and as it is clay based you can rub it off with a damp paper towel if you mess up or put too much down in parts. Secondly AK streaking grime enamel washes. I use them on armor and they create very nice subtle streaks down the side. They do various colors.
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it RW.
I must look into the AK range. I’ve head good things about their products. Regards Charlie
hi Charlie another great video mate I have weather some of my tanks wagons by hand brush but I will have a go with my airbrush On some of my 100 ton tanks they are in all black livery has they were in the 1980s thanks for the idea clive
You’re very welcome Clive.
Revell acrylic (Black Tar) is the perfect shade for fuel spills charlie
Thanks for the tip mate.
Very helpful, I am about to start some experimenting of my own on some old Triang 16 ton wagons in order to practice my own techniques. great video, thanks!
I’m so pleased that you found it useful.
Very useful pointers and results. Will have a go in the near future.
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards Charlie
Can I suggest using only acrylic for your air brush. Lot less harsh chemicals and a lot easier to clean.
Hi Steve,
I think that it’s a case of horses for courses.
Removing acrylic paint from your model, once it has dried can be a problem. With enamels it’s much easier. I disagree that acrylics are easier to clean from airbrushes. With the right product, enamels come off easily. The problem is, as you mentioned, the harsh chemicals used.
Something beginners might consider.
Spray your vehicle with a coat of enamel varnish then weather in either acrylic or oils. If it all goes wrong you can remove the "dirt" back to the varnish layer and try again
That’s a very interesting option Bob, many thanks.
Great video Charlie.. I'm all for tutorials on weathering as it's too often a part of modelling people shy away from. Though I'm not a fan of airbrush weathering it is a good way of starting if you have a huge bundle of wagons or coaches. I do find airbrushed weathering lacks something compared to weathering by hand.. Though at the stage you have those wagons now I'd be looking into some additional touches like some form of streaking on other weathered parts or some areas of rust.. and of course if you fluff it up you can always undo it (to a degree) which in return creates another weathered effect.. so many techniques I use were discovered by bodging it up and trying to wipe it off lol.
Keep them rolling.
Tim
Hi Tim. I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. You are of course right. I now need get more colour onto it but the use of weathering powders etc I’ll save for another day. Regards Charlie
Great job on the weathering Charlie! 👍👍
Here to please Tase.
Nice one Charlie I work for BRail at the Philips petroleum depots at bromsgrove as a wheel tapper as some of small tankers you could hardly see the numbers so heavly stained
Thanks John, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.
Another fantastic video and best one I seen about weathering
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed Paul.
Great tutorial Charlie, 👌🏻 Thanks for posting 👏🙂
Glad you liked it SC.
Great video Charlie, I think your weathering attempt was well done. I think everything looks better with a little bit of weathering, even if it is only just that.. a little bit. Cheers
Hi Michael, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.
Beautiful and educational video Charlie !! Thanks. I'm looking forward to the airbrush video! Regards Onno.
Hi Onno, airbrushes next week, stay tuned.
I will Charlie! Do you have a video working with weathering powders? Onno.
It’s on the list Onno.
Nice job Charlie. I have learned a lot from that video. Cheers
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Alan.
[thank, you for you're great helpful video]👍
Thanks Gerland, regards Charlie
Excellent video Charlie, fantastic results................John.
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it John.
Nice job on the weathering ..
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.
Great work Charlie.. really helpful .
Thanks Dave, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.
Another great video I'll be trying this soon myself👍
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Dan.
Another good informative video.
Thanks
x The Bigfella x
Thanks, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.
Thasks again Charlie 👍
You are most welcome mate.
Regards Charlie
SUPERB weathering job and tutorial! I enjoyed it enough to subscribe for sure and looking forward to seeing your other videos on your channel. Thank you sir!
Hi Mark,
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.
Regards Charlie
Hey Charlie! One question; can this same method apply to smaller areas lile the water tanks of a steamer, or a water tower?
Yes, very much so Will.
nice lesson on the rack of tank cars. and when to add a buffer car. i am with you on that, would they not be MORE flammable empty? you did a nice job on weathering. just have to remember to change the numbers first.
Hi Sparky, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards Charlie
I prefer your product to the other guy. The grimy first coat made the result look great. Quick question: dilution of the paint--any guidelines? Nicely done. Keep them coming. Thanks.
Hi Austin, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. I hope to cover mixing paint etc next week. Regards Charlie
Very good Charlie. What did you make your 'turntable' out of and what does your spray booth look like? I will not have a lot of room in my garage, (it will be all layout), and I don't think the wife will let me use the kitchen! Cheers. Pete
Hi I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.
The turntable is available at most big shows from traders such as Squires.
I think you see more of the spray booth in the next video.
Regards Charlie
Very professional channel, excellent videos good job 👍
Hi Jim, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards Charlie
Hi Charlie, excellent TH-cam clip, be nice to see one on weathering a Diesel locomotive and/or steam engine. Thumbs up by me 👍
Hi Jamie, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. I will do a diesel video at a later date. Regards Charlie
Hi Charlie did you know you said here is that 100 ton mineral wagon not 100 ton tanker wagon
20:55
You have been amazing to watch when I first found your channel I was so impressed and hope my N gauge 1980 to 1990 layout so cheers
Bye
From luke
What a heart warming comment Luke.
Stay safe. Regards Charlie
If you want weathering tips look to us armour builders , just search tank weathering ..apply to your wagons. I just popped by to see what you train folk do. Dot filters and oil filters is probably what you are after o and maybe some weather powders / pastels chalks
Great tips Vaseili.
Sorry fella I was up very late last night watching your vids.. That whole paragraph up there is a bit rushed as I was tired. What I was trying to say was that scale modellers and train folk really are not much diffrent from each other, we try to recreate reality in scale and most of that entails heavy machinery exposed to the elements. Only diffrence I can see between us is your models move and can be played with but ours are static and there is no touchy touchy.
I seen in the video you had four Duracell carriages you are not using Is it because they look like toys? I think they would be perfect candidates. To be totally repainted and weathered, if there not expensive I will buy one and do a video on it in the future, and weather the buggers in good and proper, Welsh know how to get dirty.
Great demonstration ....just another 40 to do? 🌈😷🇬🇧
No pressure Lee.
Nice one, Charlie.
Here to serve Nigel.
Just found your Videos good work mate
Hi Richard, it’s great to have you onboard. Your comments are always welcome. Regards Charlie
Hi Charlie, great video - wonderful weathering job. You said that you had made a video of what not to buy - which one is it.
Hi Jim,
Have a watch of, New Chadwick Part 3.
I chat in broad terms about our buying habits.
Regards Charlie
Thanks for that Charlie. Couldn't agree more. I've got a box of items, which I thought I wanted but now don't need, which cost me nearly £500. Need to get on E-bay.
Cheers
Jim
I might even bid!
Your model looks better then the one the other person did there's looks pretty clean at some places while yours has dirt all over
You’re too kind.
Great content. I will be adding it to my RxR Clubs Digital Library for those members interested in weathering.
However I do have a comment and a question. First the comment. You said you purchased number decals for your car numbers. Here in the U.S. we use ICC profiled Computer Printers to print out our own at much less expense. There are also a number of back office supply companies (FedEx, Staples, Office Depot) as well as online retailers (like Sticker Mate, Vista-print, and Paper Product Direct) who will print out decals from a memory device. As our club has hundreds of rolling stock we find it easier to print out our own along with a QR marker for car registry data base tracking. A way to not only print out numbers but also design and print signage through out the layout.
Now my question. I am NOT an experienced weather enthusiast. I see "mucking up" a model as damaging an investment. Not enhancing it. So as you air brush has two functions can it spray the paint and then be used to blow air only to expedite the drying process?
Will continue to watch. And see you DOWN THE LINE.
That’s very interesting regarding printing your own decals, something that I will look into.
Yes the double action airbrush can be used to dry but I much prefer to allow paint to dry in its own time.
I totally understand your point regarding “messing up” decent rolling stock. I just like my trains to have a “real” appearance, as do many folks.
I don’t view my purchases as investments, just items that I enjoy. Regards Charlie
Just 1 point weatered models look realistic on a layout pristine ones look out of place and also weathered models (well done ones that is) fetch a better price when sold so in reality if u sold a collection that was all weathered it would probably get a higher price than non weathered tmc for example on ebay u can see examples of price differences
As for the decal services i dont think we have similar in uk id definately be interested to know.
But u can purchase decal paper here for use in inkjet printers
Stockton Junction Yes, decal paper is available for ink jet printers. That's what NVR/WAS RxR Club uses. My point was the printet must be ICC Profiled. Ink Jet printers not ICC, like my at home Canon, tend to smear the ink and cause an unusable decal. I take that back. Damaged decals can be sliced acd diced for aged exterior wall billboards.
Nice video Charlie, I have quite a few Dapol tank wagons but also about 20 years ago brought 10 Bachmann unpainted fuel tankers from mainly trains at Watchet when I lived in Somerset. What varnish did you seal the finish with matt or satin.
Hi Wayne, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video. I haven’t varnished them yet but when I do, I will mention it.
Regards Charlie
This was very helpful and inspirational, i think im gonna start using airbrushes for this now.. ( also at 0:52 what video is that?)
I think it was video number 34. Regards, Charlie.
Great advice Charlie.... I’m in need of a rake of old triang Hornby milk containers , I see you weren’t keen on the cheaper wagons any views on what I’m after , or by better one and convert them ? Hope you didn’t mind me asking ...regards Fred
Hi Fred,
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video.
I think that I would simply buy the tankers, one by one on eBay.
That way you will over time, get the tankers you want and spread the cost.
Regards Charlie
Hi Charlie,
Great weathering, Lord and Butler are my local shop (Well, 20 miles away!). Could you answer the following question. Are the wheels affected by the spraying, do they need cleaning afterwards, or would it be best to remove them before weathering, which is not so easy to do on a loco.
Was wondering because I was going to try weathering a loco, I've done some wagons with dry brushing techniques but shyed away from spraying because of the concern over the wheels.
Cheers, Rich.
Hi Rich, I would never remove the wheels on wagons. On a Diesel loco I wold remove the body shell and weather them separately.
Yes the wheels will need cleaning to maintain their conductivity. I just use white spirit. Regards Charlie
Thanks, that helps alot. Interested to see your airbruch vids,
Cheers, Rich.
Another great video Charlie and you made a good job of your tanker's.
In your next video on airbrushes, may I ask that you give some recommendations to types of airbrushes and compressor's to buy for us folk who have yet to purchase such item's?
Many thanks Charlie, always look forward to the videos.
Hi Shawn, yes I’ll certainly show you my choices. Regards Charlie
Thanks for sharing Charlie, I have some old plank wagons so I think I might try a bit of weathering on these. What on earth can go wrong (famous last words). Regards, Geoff.
Hi Geoff,
Go for it, practice makes perfect and we all need more practice.
Regards Charlie
Well I followed your advice, both your instructions within the video and the reply to my comment, I went for it and here it is. th-cam.com/video/mzvpMJX77fE/w-d-xo.html Regards, Geoff. By the way, you get a bit of a mention.
I like those those Hornby Duracell wagons. I know they are not real but they sure are cool. If ever you want to sell them please let me know as I'm trying to build a rake of them. I currently have X5. They look kinda cool behind a small engine like smokey Joe🙂
Hi Dave,
They are rather cute.
For the four, what’s your offer?
Regards Charlie
Hi as I'm new to weathering and using a airbrush what colours would you suggest for the track ,I have saved the video by the way .
Sleeper grime before you ballast then as you see fit.
Charlie, I just finished up a Ratio Models Twin Diesel Tank in OO scale for my U.S. model railroad engine service facility. I was wondering, what is the significance of the two star markings/decals on tank car? This kit has them as well, but being a U.S. base railroad I wasn't sure if they would be prototypical. Great video BTW...
Hi Loumickie,
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video.
I believe that the stars refer to the octane of the fuel. The best was five star and the worst one star.
I do hope that helps.
Regards Charlie
Fantastic, thanks for the explanation.
Really good video and thanks for taking the effort to edit it so well. Makes viewing so much more enjoyable Have subscribed, will be back for more and the back catalogue as weathering is a way off for me yet. One question: what are the couplings you are using? Are the the Keen ones. That kind of thing is my current focus before I start reducing the rather new off the line look of my rakes!
Hi Ben, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video.
My mk2 coaches are fitted with Keen but they aren’t that reliable. My freight stock are mainly kadee, and they are really good.
Good track work is important factor as if it’s poorly laid then uncoupling is often the result. Mixing couplings is also a problem such as new and old drop links.
Regards Charlie
Many thanks for the information.
A brush and an employee called gravity 😸
Perhaps but an airbrush clearly has interesting properties Rob.
hi charlie your reason why your paint get blotchy is your air pressure is to LOW your not atomizing the paint you regulate the pait with your finger as ive been painting for many years with a air brushes doing murals on cars plus i find using acrylic paint better to use on trains coaches and such like plus its so cheap you can mix any colour you like and store them in old pop bottles or jars like mixing gey titanium white and lamp black just a touch i mix a litre at a time plus the thinners is water plus there's no chance of a reaction from different colour paints when doing small models i usually spray at 15 psi for close up work like putting on dirt on the wheels or on the ladders for close up work and if you want to mist the tank use around 20 psi or higher using your finger to regulate the amount of paint you put out practice on a piece of paper first to get your desired finish plus you can buy acrylic layers in gloss matt or silk plus they are dirt cheap as well give it a go you will save pounds on paint i assure you that just acrylic artists paint in tube or jars its your choice and they will last for years as you thin them out as you know to the consistency of condensed milk .
Thanks John, some useful tips.
Will you be discussing couplings at some point?
No plans at present Mark but there are a great many videos that cover couplings.
Hello Charlie. A long shot, given how old the video is, but do you still have that rake of Duracell tankers? If you don't want them and wish to sell them, I'll take them off your hands.
I do. Can you email me please.
@@ChadwickModelRailway Thank you. I have sent an email to the address provided on your TH-cam channel. Remember to check your spam/junk folder if it doesn't come up in your inbox.
nice job Sir
Thanks Anthony
I wood love to get them tanker frim you are thay for sale the battery ones
Hi Adam, yes they are.
What’s your best offer?
Regards Charlie
Chadwick Model Railway i woodint know iv never seen them
Your weathering is more convincing I think
I'm pleased that you like it.
Sadly I don't own an airbrush so I have to do as best I can by hand
That sounds like something for a Christmas or birthday present.
9 views in 2 mins holy moly like if you agree
Edit: up to 50 views in 20 mins!!
Such a loyal following, I’m truly humbled.
Regards Charlie
Hy Charlie, you do a grat and a real job on the hobby. And why don't you rebuilt the Duracel-wagons as Mobilevones? Just dismantling them in their pices - primer them and repaint them as MOBILE wagons? All you have to do is the find the right decal on the internet and the right colour, haven't you? There are several minimum diffrencrsvbetween the tankers due to several suppliers the came from - so mixing them in a longer tanker train gives ann even more realistic appearance of a train on the layout. And after reassembling the exDuracel wagons you do the weathering again and you get an even longer train of MOBILE wagons, don't you? It is a pitty to "waste" the Duracels as a kind of everstanding "shelf ware".
Hope it is an idea for a new video to produce - "reanimating your over buyed stock by airbrush & decals". Sorry for my bad English - but I hope you figure out the badic idea I have got.
Some interesting advice Gorg. Many thanks.
No problem as I do build my 0-9 stock on scrap wagon's boogies I am used to rebuild them.
Lately i always seem to go over the top and end up ruining my locos, im on my 3rd class 70 farish shell, lmao
That’s the problem with airbrushes, there isn’t a button to suck the paint back into the cup!
100 Ton Tanks : .... The photo you posted at 3:28 of a 100 ton tank only has two top hatches, and your model has three ...... That's why there are no fuel stains in the centre on the real example ? . .... Most did have three hatches. .. The photo you chose out of thousands on the web didn't !!
I’m on the case Daniel, thanks for pointing it out. Regards Charlie
Your is better
Thanks mate.