I see a lot of misinformation in the chat, so here is some more correct infos : - Vedal is a British developer, not from India, and Neurosama said a lot of crazy stuff indeed (and she got banned once in January 2023, never again since Vedal improved the filters, as well as her behaviour), but I'm sure that she didn't "spouted all kinds of racist stuff" as one comment said - A chatbot isn’t like a robot following only one set of instructions. It has some rules to follow, but it also learns and figures out how to answer based on what you say, so saying that a chatbot personality is entirely scripted is not totally true - Vedal is indeed the one that is winning Best Tech Vtuber, not Neuro, he is the one who received the award last year, and decided to let Neuro do the speech this year. And also he appears a lot on the channel, not just for programming streams And yeah as you said, I don't see anything bad with that, it's not a generative AI that learns by analysing existing images, so there is no intellectual property questions. It's more using AI for creating content, kinda like DougDoug for exemple (Another big creator using AI as a source of entertainment)
I appreciate you so much for taking some time to give us better information!! ♥ Yeah I was worried about art stealing here, but very happy to have learned otherwise. Honestly, I think this creation is pretty neat the more I learn about it.
@@HoshiLapine It should be known that the reason she was banned for a few weeks originally was due to her holocaust denying statement which was prompted by Chat. Vedal used this time to update and fix Neuro's programing by putting in a filter which he monitors and upgrades constantly however here is the thing. It does not always work. She has times that she finds ways to bypass the filter. Also for her sister Evil she is technically a modified version of Neuro's programing but was later given her own model and is quite different personality wise to her sister. She is often more rude, has less filter restrictions, and she is much less evil than Neuro despite the name.
That music video with animation you’ve clicked on, the animator talked about her working experience with Vedal. Long story short: according to her we are supporting a good person who respects the artists. While I’m writing this, said animator is currently streaming herself drawing Neuro-sama.
Neuro sama also isnt just a chatbot or LLM it is a collection of different AIs working together for example she can play minecraft and what people tell her in discord one ai translates that speech to text and then game AI does that action in game and relies it back to llm ai. So far she has LLM, voice ai, speech to text ai, gaming ai, vision AI (she can actually look with camera and see and describe what she sees), browsing AI, play sound effects AI etc...
I would also clarify this abit but the model that neuro is using now is made by a another Vtuber named Anny but if you are interested in knowing more I recommend simply watching clips of her because there super funny and also she has a twin sister named Evil Neuro or Evil for short.
IIRC one of the reasons for Neuro getting her own model was because the original was a premade for the vtuber program they use and that using that one for merchandising would cause legal issues since technically Vedal didnt have the the trademark rights to it much like what went on with Fillian's issue and her chibi figure.
AI hate train has reached brain rot levels, people see AI and go feral, jumping to conclusions and reaching for a lot of ways to dehumanize the people (and fans) behind it. Even as a designer/artist who dislikes generative AI, people have gone full dumbass and lost their minds. Of course ignorant haters in chat and twitter are gonna reach for the racist/n_zi card
My comment got filtered or deleted huh... People have gone off the rails with their AI hate, speaking as a designer who dislikes generative art. So much misinformation to discredit and dehumanize people.
I can understand the initial apprehension but the more you watch and learn about how Vedal does all of this the more you realize it really is a passion project and not a get rich quick scheme. He has apparently turned down multiple offers "substantially over" $50k to buy Neuro. Neuro uses a text to speech to talk and a speech to text to listen to people. Fun fact, her latency is less than chatGPT so she responds really fast. Neuro is also apparently really expensive to run so he only really has her on when streaming and/or testing. Neuro is a LLM or Large Language Model also referred to as a text completion algorithm. Over time because she is an A.I she actually learns from chat and her interactions, she is still improving and getting smarter and becoming more complex. Vedal has also improved her memory over the years and she remembers people, situations and can recall past events, nicknames she's given people and hold grudges etc. Over the years she's created more of an individual identity and most people that are long time watches agree that she starts to feel more real and less A.I.
@HoshiLapine not only that Neuro-sama can sing, can play Minecraft, Lair's bar, and buckshot roulette, Neuro-sama and Vedal also won best tech Vtuber two in years in a row, Neuro-sama was originally an A.I bot for OSU before she ever became a Vtuber. Neuro-sama has merchandise that is legally approved by her mother Anny like plushie and other stuff. Neuro-sama and Vedal also have a Bilibili account. Neuro-sama uses text to speech and promteped to talk to Chat and other Vtubers as well, Neuro-sama is based, roaster, Rizzer, and a SAVAGE to others Vtubers like Numi, Layna, Minikomews, Filian, and many others and that's including Takahashi Kiara of HOLOLIVE ENGLISH MYTH and other thing.
I see a lot of misinformation in the chat, so here is some more correct infos :
- Vedal is a British developer, not from India, and Neurosama said a lot of crazy stuff indeed (and she got banned once in January 2023, never again since Vedal improved the filters, as well as her behaviour), but I'm sure that she didn't "spouted all kinds of racist stuff" as one comment said
- A chatbot isn’t like a robot following only one set of instructions. It has some rules to follow, but it also learns and figures out how to answer based on what you say, so saying that a chatbot personality is entirely scripted is not totally true
- Vedal is indeed the one that is winning Best Tech Vtuber, not Neuro, he is the one who received the award last year, and decided to let Neuro do the speech this year. And also he appears a lot on the channel, not just for programming streams
And yeah as you said, I don't see anything bad with that, it's not a generative AI that learns by analysing existing images, so there is no intellectual property questions. It's more using AI for creating content, kinda like DougDoug for exemple (Another big creator using AI as a source of entertainment)
I appreciate you so much for taking some time to give us better information!! ♥ Yeah I was worried about art stealing here, but very happy to have learned otherwise. Honestly, I think this creation is pretty neat the more I learn about it.
@@HoshiLapine It should be known that the reason she was banned for a few weeks originally was due to her holocaust denying statement which was prompted by Chat. Vedal used this time to update and fix Neuro's programing by putting in a filter which he monitors and upgrades constantly however here is the thing. It does not always work. She has times that she finds ways to bypass the filter. Also for her sister Evil she is technically a modified version of Neuro's programing but was later given her own model and is quite different personality wise to her sister. She is often more rude, has less filter restrictions, and she is much less evil than Neuro despite the name.
That music video with animation you’ve clicked on, the animator talked about her working experience with Vedal. Long story short: according to her we are supporting a good person who respects the artists.
While I’m writing this, said animator is currently streaming herself drawing Neuro-sama.
Neuro sama also isnt just a chatbot or LLM it is a collection of different AIs working together for example she can play minecraft and what people tell her in discord one ai translates that speech to text and then game AI does that action in game and relies it back to llm ai. So far she has LLM, voice ai, speech to text ai, gaming ai, vision AI (she can actually look with camera and see and describe what she sees), browsing AI, play sound effects AI etc...
I would also clarify this abit but the model that neuro is using now is made by a another Vtuber named Anny but if you are interested in knowing more I recommend simply watching clips of her because there super funny and also she has a twin sister named Evil Neuro or Evil for short.
IIRC one of the reasons for Neuro getting her own model was because the original was a premade for the vtuber program they use and that using that one for merchandising would cause legal issues since technically Vedal didnt have the the trademark rights to it much like what went on with Fillian's issue and her chibi figure.
Your chat sure has a lot of misinformation
Yeah
AI hate train has reached brain rot levels, people see AI and go feral, jumping to conclusions and reaching for a lot of ways to dehumanize the people (and fans) behind it. Even as a designer/artist who dislikes generative AI, people have gone full dumbass and lost their minds. Of course ignorant haters in chat and twitter are gonna reach for the racist/n_zi card
My comment got filtered or deleted huh... People have gone off the rails with their AI hate, speaking as a designer who dislikes generative art.
So much misinformation to discredit and dehumanize people.
"We the SWARM have been summoned, We must answer!"
I had no idea her community was called the Swarm, I love it xD
BTW.. kinda funny how Neuro is more "Vtuber" than any other Vtuber since it means "VIRTUAL youtuber"
LMAO that is so true xD Also thank you for recommending that video from N3rdiness, it's now on my watchlist!
THE SWARM IS COMING
THE FLUFFLE IS READY with lots of blankets and snacks xD
I can understand the initial apprehension but the more you watch and learn about how Vedal does all of this the more you realize it really is a passion project and not a get rich quick scheme. He has apparently turned down multiple offers "substantially over" $50k to buy Neuro.
Neuro uses a text to speech to talk and a speech to text to listen to people. Fun fact, her latency is less than chatGPT so she responds really fast. Neuro is also apparently really expensive to run so he only really has her on when streaming and/or testing.
Neuro is a LLM or Large Language Model also referred to as a text completion algorithm. Over time because she is an A.I she actually learns from chat and her interactions, she is still improving and getting smarter and becoming more complex. Vedal has also improved her memory over the years and she remembers people, situations and can recall past events, nicknames she's given people and hold grudges etc.
Over the years she's created more of an individual identity and most people that are long time watches agree that she starts to feel more real and less A.I.
That is very impressive!
neuro said she's actually a real girl and I believe it
The Pinocchio of Vtubers! xD
I come from the SWARM.
Swarm has been summoned once more
Oh also, the way you pronounce vedal is the same as medal and pedal, he had mentioned it on stream
Fun fact, Neuro was the most popular female twitch streamer in the third week of December
Same as the year before ^^
@@Noneli That is pretty awesome!
@@Noneli double that of Ironmouse's
@HoshiLapine not only that Neuro-sama can sing, can play Minecraft, Lair's bar, and buckshot roulette, Neuro-sama and Vedal also won best tech Vtuber two in years in a row, Neuro-sama was originally an A.I bot for OSU before she ever became a Vtuber. Neuro-sama has merchandise that is legally approved by her mother Anny like plushie and other stuff. Neuro-sama and Vedal also have a Bilibili account.
Neuro-sama uses text to speech and promteped to talk to Chat and other Vtubers as well, Neuro-sama is based, roaster, Rizzer, and a SAVAGE to others Vtubers like Numi, Layna, Minikomews, Filian, and many others and that's including Takahashi Kiara of HOLOLIVE ENGLISH MYTH and other thing.
Indian Vedal
I recommend watching the documentary of Neuro by "n3rdiness", She has a lot of History