Swedish Song - "Herr Mannelig" [English Subtitles]
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- "Herr Mannelig" - (English: aka The Courting of the Mountain Troll)
Herr Mannelig is a Swedish medieval ballad that tells the story of a female mountain troll who proposes to a young man. The troll tries to convince him to accept her as his wife. She offers him gifts, but the man refuses as she is not a Christian woman but a troll, who belongs to the devil. The failure to seduce him makes her desperate, because by winning him over she would get rid of her plight, possibly suggesting that she is under a curse. The picture is unrelated to the song, performed by Garmarna. - เพลง
Swede here.
I knew this song as a child, but only heard/sang it quite a bit faster. That way, even though it's in a minor key, it sounded way less tragic and more jokingly as the troll is listing all the ridiculous riches she wish to give the young lad for his hand in marriage. We children were even encouraged to make up our own verses about what we would promise to give him if we were the troll, each and everyone getting more exaggerated as we went.
It's funny how much the tempo can change a song!
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I wonder if one of you would promise him a position of a president
it's interesting to know. thank u
I would have wished this she-troll to become the most beautiful woman ever on Earth to be my wife. Of course staying that powerful and rich as before.
@@Bzgiorno_Bzgiovanna That would explain the american president we've had recently :)
Troll: "The worst thing he can say is no"
Herr Mannelig:
I did some research regarding the painting in the video and with the help of people in this comment section, I finally understood the context of the painting. The painting is called: "Here is a piece of a troll herb which nobody else but me can find" and the artist who painted this work is a gentleman by the name of John Bauer.
As the description of this video states, the painting has nothing to do with the song. In fact, the big old lady you see in the painting isn't even a troll. She's apparently a witch that got her hair stuck in the branches of a spruce tree. The boy in the painting then set her free and for his kindness, the witch gave him a magical herb that enables him to understand what the animals of the forest are saying, and that's the scene that's depicted in the painting.
The story this painting is based on is called: "The boy who was never afraid" and the story is about a young boy whose cow was abducted by a troll. Knowing that nothing would harm him thanks to his kind-hearted nature, the boy fearlessly went out to search for his cow.
The story does feature a troll as the main antagonist but the painting itself is about the boy's encounter with the witch.
In Stardew Valley you have to get roofied by a Wizard for that kinda Power!
Bauer was a Swedish artist who was very famous for paintings and illustrations of trolls and other creatures from Norse sagas. This particular creature we call Skogsrå, a kind of witch who rules over wild animals and likes to seduce men, and she's able to shapeshift. The painting is called Trollörten. (Trolls herb.)
Well, it's incredible for us swedes when people find out about our folk lore and culture. Bauer is one of the most famous artist in our country and basically everyone here is familiar with his paintings. Swedish folklore is incredibly convoluted and it's a very intresting study. And it actually has spread itself into some english words, for example the "Nattmara" is the prescientific explanation for sleep paralasys demons, and the english word "nightmare" is a direct translation of it.
@@gaffalstudios3617 I saw some words that were similar to some english words. Is there a relation between english and swedish?
@@rocambolli I mean old anglish (wich english comes from) and Swedish are both germanic languages so they have evolved from the same language and thus have many similar words.
But furthermore during the viking invasions the vikings brought their own language with them, and many english words where replaced by viking ones. Especially in local dialects, if you go to Scotland many of the words english people have trouble understanding make total sense for us nordic people; like the word "braw" which means "good" in scots, this word is basically just a reused version of the old norse word "braaf" or "brav" or "bra" in modern Swedish. Or "bairn" which means child or baby is just an english version of the word "barn".
From what I've read about this song, it was believed that although fairies were unaging and thus _might_ live forever, they had no immortal souls. But they could gain a soul by marrying a human.
That's what I was taught as a child. =)
The pain the troll is referring to at the end is the feeling of emptiness of not having a soul some trolls are described to have (and in some tales what drives them to collect their gold and treasures to try and fill that emptiness).
@@lottaleissner497 Interesting! I hadn't heard that part about why trolls collect gold.
Interesting, in England such creatures were usually considered spirits.
Guess that explains the deal with the little mermaid.
Bruh if she explained that to her he mightve said yes tho
Her: I’m going to ask him out! The worst thing he can say is no.
Mannelig: 4:18
"Ech, she's not my type so I rejected her. I'm sure she won't mind too hard."
Her: 5:12
I do feel sorry for her. Sounds like she didn't have any ulterior motives and supposedly female trolls made for surprisingly good wives.
@@RelativelyBest It also sounds like she is meant to be cursed and that would have been lifted if he had married her.
Should have tried the truth I guess.
@@jasperzanovich2504 Uncertain, but she uses the word "plåga" which specifically means "torment" or "agony" - it heavily implies active suffering in a way that the English "plight" doesn't. In other words, she's not just troubled but in actual pain.
With no other context to go by, I would presume this refers to heartache: She's just really lonely and in love with a man who won't have her. There still could be a curse involved, but if so I think that would probably have been clearer.
@@RelativelyBest also that "man" looks like a child and given the history of trolls supposedly kidnapping children
Well just put two and two together.
LOL! The lyrics are literally "Will you go out with me? The worst you can say is no."
"You are the worst mountain troll, the spawn of the Neck and the Devil!"
No hate like Christian love
@@AedanTheGrey Cry me a river
@@AedanTheGrey ✝️✝️✝️
@@AedanTheGreyThe Nordic Religion was worse, I mean, dying in battle just for the world to end and everyone die except for 2 randos, even their Gods, and die every day in a battle after death doesn't sound peaceful.
@@AedanTheGrey fuck yeah! Psalm 97:10
I love Swedish words translated into a language I understand. It's kinda funny how as a German speaker I don't understand Swedish but once I see a word and hear its meaning it kinda makes sense to me. Like the two languages split up too long ago to straight up understand each other but you can kinda see the way they took. Hope that makes sense
Absolutely, i’m italian so i only studied english, but since my father told me to look up for similarities between english and german,i can get some words in that language and then compare them to understand some other words in germanic languages, as in this song
yup, its the same between latin languages
@@realnova7429 as someone who has studied French and whose mother tongue is Spanish I can tell you, sometimes one can be easily intimidated by perceived differences but grammar and lexicon are actually very similar across languages derived from Latin. The phonetic aspect and specially the spoken language is where the real challenge is.
It’s very old Swedish, structure of sentences is different and many words are also very different compared to now.
As an english speaker its like that with almost every language from Western Europe since English borrows something from almost all of them.
2:47 - This line actually means "that rings/chimes from fifteen gold rings." The word "klinga" means "blade" as a noun but is also a verb meaning "to ring" as in the sound bells make. Whoever wrote the translation probably got them mixed up. The implication seems to be that the sword has rings attached to it, or possibly a gold chain.
Personen som översätte texten verkar vara svensk, och jag är också svensk. Enligt mig låter det som om att svärdet är gjort av 15 guldringar eftersom att det klingar låter fel enligt mig helt enkelt
@@nugget2366 Vad menar du, "låter fel"? Om svärdet av någon anledning var gjort av guldringar skulle texten vara: _"Med klinga_ utaf femton guldringar."
Även om språket är något ålderdomligt kan "som klingar" liksom inte betyda något annat än att svärdet ger ifrån sig ett klingande ljud.
@@RelativelyBest jag har ingen bra förklaring
@@nugget2366 Fair enough.
Som en son av två smeder säger jag dig, att klinga är att skapa ett svärd, att slå svärdet till sin form. Men i detta kontext verkar det som att svärdet är ett mästervapen värt mer än ett dussin förmögenheter, 15 guldringar.
My mom sang this to me when i was a kid. The nostalgia is overwhelming. RIP mom.
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my god i wish my mother was like yours
Got this random TH-cam recommendation, this is such a beautiful language and song. Love from India to the people who speak this.
same love from Bangladesh!
Does your folklore include trolls or yeti or traces of pre modern humans?
@@mattiasdahlstrom2024 yes but it is very different
@@mattiasdahlstrom2024 In the epic tale of 'Mahābhārata' there are discriptions of many races of superhumans, giants, evil beings.
There are also thousands of folk tales of supernatural beings and demigods in Indian subcontinent. 'Asura', 'Daitya', 'Rakshasa' are some of the classes of powerful beings.There are lots of symbolisms, beliefs, spiritual ideas, music related to 'Daiva'(god) and 'Asura'(anti-god).
@@Sdb903 recall a video discussing similarities between Norse and Indian mythology, they share in parts a common aryan ancestry ( about Starkad)
First time I've heard this song, it was a Russian translation and I found it very interesting from a historical standpoint. I googled it and found out that the whole poem is an allegory of Norse-Christian relations at the time which, in humble opinion, makes the song much more cooler to say the least. I mean, it's basically a centuries-old social commentary which brings up one of the perspectives on this matter, which allows us to understand the feelings of the people of this era somewhat, or at least this one particular writer.
This version though is just outright beautiful. I'm even considering learning Swedish now, after hearing that. This language is somehow sounds both familiar yet very distinctly alien. Fascinating stuff, I'd say
Seeing it from that perspective makes me sad really, shitty christians batting a hand of union away as usual at that time...
Your comment goes nicely with another one saying that it was believed that fairies/magical beings had no souls, but could obtain one by marrying a human. Both a pagan woman and a troll/fairy wouldn't have a soul (or couldn't achieve salvation) and thus might strive to marry a Christian man. It sounds pretty much like a medieval propaganda to me, but it surely makes a beautiful, haunting song
our poor cultures 😔
@@Upioornica yes, this belief indeed existed at that timeframe, at least regarding magical creatures. However, I would argue that author had some semblance of pity towards them and, by extention, to the Norse paganism as a whole. At least more than most of the christians at the time. They call troll's tongue false (indicating that she lied to good man, or at least tried to deceive), yet it seems like she genuinely wanted to get a soul, not out of something devious (because, to my, honestly, pretty limited, knowledge there is no apparent benefits for this) but simply because she thinks that it's better than her current soulless existence. Thinking about it, it's a pretty tragic story - being so desperate, troll would do and say whatever it takes to become a human, but it still wouldn't be enough. Author, indeed, sees Norse pagan beliefs as something fundamentally irredeemable, so they are 100% biased, but bear in mind that we are talking about times long before humanism, so it was as big of an extent of sympathy as they could get from christian (most probably, a monk) standpoint.
As a fellow christian, it's kinda based. As a fellow human being, it's kinda harsh as heck, outright cruel even. Still, it's a very interesting piece of medieval art
@@cocobunitacobuni8738 Yeah, I get that. I mean, Slavic paganism was basically erased from existence without much of a trace. Spread of Christianity wasn't as bloody of a process in Rus as it was in Scandinavia, yet we still know almost nothing about slavic gods, especially in comparison to Norse or Greek ones, and most of the modern-day "slavic pagan" culture proposers are just cringey posers who basically invented gods to fill the gaps. It's such a shame, that such a large chunk of the culture was lost, probably forever
I am obsessed with this song. I don't know a word of Swedish, yet I find myself compelled to learn the lyrics so I can sing along.
same!
Hej!(Hello!) Bergatroll is almost a direct translation to mountain troll but that "a" separates the two words berg(mountain) and troll(troll). I think the word is apart of our old Swedish.
Just so you know, modern swedish is very different from this archaic swedish and you probably won't understand a lick of this song until you're already fluent in the language
@hokenlord5626 i barely understand parts of it even as a native swede lol
@@Xamerax Läs lite mer, det hjälper jättemycket med att förstå ovanliga ord och eller ord som stavas lite annorlunda.
I should have slept hours ago but i'm listening to a Swedish folk ballad. I wish the algorithm would behave
That vibe.
And this is what happens when we trust algorithms. (Computer scientist here. Just saying! )
I think the woman is not troll in the mythical sense. She's just a pagan , non Christian , woman who is proposing a Christian man. And the man is rejecting her for not being Christian.
Quite possible, since we all know how Christians treated the indigenous culture of a place.
@@arnavranka4510 The Christianisation of Scandinavia was in most part a fairly peaceful, albeit long process that took many generations. During the end of the Viking age and early middle age, you thus see a very interesting mix of Norse and Christian beliefs, and traditions. It wasn’t uncommon for people to believe in both Christ and the Norse Pantheon for example
@@basedgodkyon Of course the oppressor won't know he is being oppressive, only the victim will. And those victims are no more.
When any religion tries to spread to a place with another religion, the process is never peaceful.
@@arnavranka4510 As I said, by large the adoption of Christianity was very gradual in its process and took many generations to adopt, but was for the most part a peaceful process. The Althing of Iceland even willingly adopted it in the year 1000.
There are of course of examples of Christianity being forced upon the population in some instances, I’m not denying that. But the notion that “the evil Christians” came and destroyed the local population is simply not true, as evidenced by the historical and archeological record.
@@basedgodkyon It may have been like that in Sweden. I don't know, since I am biased. My nation has had a violent history with Christianity (read the Goan Inquisition), and found a lot of parallels to what happened in the Western Hemisphere under the Iberian monarchies.
I love that the text is written in swedish and english, because as a german who also speaks english, this made me understand the swedish as well, because it is is so closely related to both languages
It also doesn’t hurt that English has some Old Norse
cool!
Yes! “Sadel uppå dem” sounds like English just in a strange accent to my ears as a Brit.
It makes sense that you can understand a little more because this is old swedish spelling and speech. Athough we still understand it flawlessly even though we don't speak like this.
@@GuyBradburyyit’s old Swedish aswell. That old spelling like a lot of words in this song that’s not really used today
Danish here.
This is such a beautiful tune. It song mesmerizing... You get enthralled in the lyrics and story being told... Love music like this... This and older music... It had SOUL back then...
That was my guess too... It is essential to believe in something, what is bad is to believe my beliefs are better than yours, or that you should believe in what I believe to be together... To love is to listen other's thoughts, sometimes you will make me change my thought, sometimes will be the other way around... As long as we remain, love will grow stronger...
@@deszSS1387 I totally agree with your statements. Except a minor adjust men. I don't think it's "not bad" to believe in something. - I think it's essential, to believe in something.
The lack of a higher power, leads you astray, like the woke or climatists.
I was born a Christian, but i could never reconcile with a "single" god. It felt tyranical. So i spent most of my life, looking for meaning, leading me down paths of abuse and addictions...
Finally i found, that it has nothing to do with the concept of "god" or "gods", and everything to do with values.
I've always been taught, as most have, that we are born good, and are essentially good beings in nature.
Then i heard an interview, where it was postulated, that we're actually born bad and that - being good - Is a learned behavior. And that actually made sense to me.
So i understood then and there, that if i wanted to be a good person, i had to adopt some values. - And that's been my main driving force since then. I have regained my respect for other religions now, and no longer see religious people as "less than" because of it...
I was on the "gravytrain" to wokeness at some point, but i started to think for myself, before it was too late...
So yea, you NEED to believe in something... Something higher than yourself...
Meh... I digress... I love to talk...
But yea, the values of old, in the Nordic nations, like mine... We need to rediscover them, and everything that culture have to offer us...
Recreate as much as we can, as authentically as we can... Only through that, i believe, can we be a strong people again...
Oh! My mistake, thank you, my friend for the heads up...
Vi Skandinavier är av samma gren från universums träd.
@@albin7772 We are indeed. The entire scandinavia is one big family... From Finland, to Greenland... The UK have to be a remote cousin... :P
First version of this song I ever heard was actually in English, but hearing it in the original language was enough to inspire me to want to learn it myself. I love this arrangement, too; the melody in every version I've heard has something heartfelt about it, but this one also heavy and foreboding, which adds another layer to the story being conveyed.
Do it swedish is one of the most beutiful langueges
@@theodorsundqvist7007 little shameless self-promotion, here, but I do have the first verse up in TH-cam shorts, if you're interested.
A more or less heavy layer of melancholy is a sort of 'trade-mark' of most of old Nordic folk-music. I cannot even fathom, and have never heard this song in any other language, or without this streak of melancholy - and as a Swede, I wouldn't want it in any other way! ;-)
@@MrZenGuitarist Interesting! I don't have any Swedish ancestry that I know of, but I am half Irish, and a lot of there songs have the kind of melancholy you're describing. So it would explain why I'm drawn to songs of that nature from all backgrounds.
@@brynnesantos9817 Yep, I'm sure. Scandinavia and at least large parts of the British isles have a rather intertwined history/-ies - going back to the so-called 'Viking-era' as you certainly know.
But also - I find it rather easy to find a lot of similarities between most 'folk-music', with more or less ancient roots.
I love hearing those languanges... they've got such a power in them
Same honestly
@@sonnenkreuz14 I love it equally when it's a deep voice too. A Viking if you will
I know this song from a very popular german game called "Gothic" where it is played by "In Extremo" in the game, but in a more "cheerful" and "rocky" way. I really liked the song back then and i occasionally listen to it. But this version sounds more "sad" which makes it even more mysterious.
Greetings to all Swedes from Germany!
The In Extremo version of this is fantastic, but I really appreciate this slower version as well.
OMG Unrelated but I'm from Argentina and nobody knows about the Gothic or even Risen here, it's my absolute favorite game and I follow Piranha Bytes since forever, glad they're more popular in their land. I didn't know they used popular music, that game is truly a masterpiece
@@vityakesley1747 wow im really suprised about that. In which language do you play the game? Spanish i would assume, but how good is the voice acting?
@@huskiiytI play in English with Spanish captions actually, I'm not sure if the Gothic has even a Spanish voice acting lol... I play it in English anyway, the voice acting is usually better. I really hope Piranha keeps making games in their unique style after their addition to THQ Nordic, they have a balance in Open-World RPG that I never find in other companies' games
yea very true. But unfortunatly i have to tell you that at the moment PB is actually really struggling to exist any longer. They are currently on the verge of going bankrupt. @@vityakesley1747
Art is by Swedish painter and illustrator John Bauer (1882-1918).
Died because his ship sunk
@@antonsamuelsson1317 Skill issue
nah jk
@@Baduntenseriously it was, i think he overloaded his boat almost twice the limit
@@antonsamuelsson1317 LMFAO
tbh he still was a good and iconic artist so i own't hate on him too much
@@antonsamuelsson1317 It wasn't John Bauer who loaded the boat. He was ferrying across the great lake Vättern with his wife and son. The company who owned the boat also used it to carry cargo across the lake. During a storm, the overloaded boat capsized and sank, killing all 24 passengers.
Since he was famous for his paintings of mythological creatures, it was at the time believed by some that the accident had been caused by some mythical creature of the lake.
Takk for denne vakre sangen, søta bror. Vennlig hilsen Norge.
God damn I love this. These mystical folk songs are always awesome, no matter from what culture.
Amazing how there are certain styles of music you’ve never heard before and yet everyone feels connected to it.
I wonder if it’s genetic
I find this intresting too, folk music has this character, you can find songs from diffrent parts of the world with the same melodies. I think it's because they are made to resonate with something very deep inside every human soul.
I realize how Scandinavian languages are underrated
Otrolig, underbar det finns så mycket kultur musik i Sverige som aldrig kommer fram.Bara språket (gammal svenskan) är så mild och vackert,
I'm a fan of literature, songs, poems, and stories of ancient lore. This is truly Wonderful!
am I wrong or that bluetooth symbol symbolizes a swedish king?
@@IdonothingwrongHarald Bluetooth of Denmark
@@KingOfAristonia thank you
@@Idonothingwrong you're welcome
Cool, this is medieval though
as a swede this song scared me so much as a child to the point i would almost cry. idk why
Im spaniard and it scares me now
Skogen den är stor, skogen den är svart, skogen är ful lav troll och skogen den är arg.
most brave Swedish man
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I was about to say that
A myth from the depths of time, set to music.
And while this interchange between troll and man is mysterious, it's also sad, too, as it seems the troll is lonely for companionship.
Beautifully and flawlessly performed. Subtitles in Swedish and Englush immensely appreciated. 💙💛
35+ year old unmarried woman trying to bag a man. A tale as old as time.
lmfao
Picture is of a painting by the 18-1900s painter John Bauer if someone is curious
It looks like Ymir Fritz from aot bruh
Thanks so much, Im redesigning and actually looking for some art like this
thanks, that helped a lot actually!
Those rolled R´s are so beautiful.
I rrrreally disagrrrree
Swedish folk music tends to focus on the consonants instead of the vowels. Most Swedes don't roll their R's that hard. I certainly don't.
@@hopsys
How darrrre you!
Therrrres nothing morrrre beautiful than rrrrroled RRRRR's!
Even though the picture may be unrelated, it fits so well with this ominous performance of this song by Garmarna. What a great inspiration from history's folklore!
I'm russian and honestly it's my first time listening how swedish sounds. And it is incredible!!! The voice, the language, the lyrics and the instrumental are so beautiful and unbelievable👏🤯🔥
The pronunciation of the song is semi-modern, but just keep in mind that this song is written in very old archaic Swedish. You are hearing how people spoke hundreds of years ago, which I find very cool.
@@TextiX887it'll surely works back for archaic old-Russian language. This songs still exist mostly as a church songs, but even for native russian speaker it sounds kinda weird.
@@33d672 It's not a psalm but it's definately not heretic, they even say that he cannot marry her because she's not christian.
I like that his name is Mannelig.
It's like the word for manly in Swedish
It's like she's flirting with him (calling him manly). at the same time, all she cares about is his humanness, his literal state of being a human man.
The troll was a cursed woman trying to get rid of her curse
@@abdulshahidalajev115What was the curse?
@@Integritys_Sum being ugly
@@Integritys_SumBeing a troll, immortality? Maybe both.
If I understand right the troll here is what the Christians used to call the pagan women ...so he just called her infidel and rejected her because she isn't Christian
Herr Mannelig is also known as 'Herr Mannerlig' (archaic version of Swedish manly), but also known as sir Magnus (Latin for 'the great'). We can probably guess why the troll lady was hot for him
It only means "sir". Not "manly". From "herre".
@@Fridtjuv the 'Mannerlig' is archaic form of manlig, manly. Herr is translated into sir.
Lols, from Afrikaans and German I took Herr to mean Mr (like Heer) and Mannelig to mean (man-ling/small human/child)
German here, I agree with @Aya Grantos Herr means "Sir" or "Mr", in german its "Herr" to so, on the "Mannerlig" I do agree that it best describes a Person with manly, attractive attributes in english you'd perhaps describe it as somewhat handsome ...
Hope I could help :)
@@Lagi42800 Oh my gosh! It's "mannelik" >> "mannelig", lolz I'm silly!
Nordic Germanic mythology is fascinating and the legend of Beowolf is one of them.
Overlooking the slight technicality that Beowulf is an English (Anglo-Saxon) story.
@@eliasashwood1460🤔And which culture and ethnic group do the Angles, Saxons and Jutes belong to again?
@@bayramaktas4135 The synthesis of us is much more important than where our component pieces came from. Also, the British are also comprised of the Celts and Romano-British, and thus no longer direct derivatives of the Angles, Saxons and Jutes. The Beowulf story is also written in Old English, not a strictly Nordic language.
Well, the Celts (language,culture) as an ethnic group have completely disappeared in England except for the outlying areas. The autor of The Legend of Beowolf is unknown, the story is about a Danish king whose court is terrorized by the monster Grendel, there is nothing Celtic about it.
@@bayramaktas4135 My point is that the people at the time of the writing of Beowulf were not the same people who arrived as the Angles, Saxons and Jutes. The Celts have not at all disappeared from England, their genetic material survives and is measurable in the natives. Hence, they have been subsumed, not "disappeared", at least no more than the A/S/Js have been. The story was set in approximately Scandinavia yes, but there is no reason to believe that it is a Scandinavian/Nordic Germanic invention.
This song is incredible. I can not stop listening to it. It’s so beautiful and is for some reason really motiving. I love how in Swedish their are rolling sounds. The vocals are amazing and it makes me want to learn Swedish.
She's singing this song in an older dialect of Swedish that isn't generally spoken any longer. In modern "rikssvenska" there are some rolling r's but not to this degree.
@@dgumbrecht What kind oif dialect?
@@ItsMel1n I dont know if I would call this a different dialect, this is a type of Sveamål - most likely Uppländska (spoken around Uppsala and Stockholm) with some antiquated word choices thrown in here and there in the lyrics from perhaps one or two hundred years ago. The lyrics are still 99,9% intelligible for a Swedish speaker.
Most western and norhern dialects have rolling R's, eastern and southern not so much.
As a German I feel something in this song calling to me. It has such an energy that causes me to feel enstrengthened
Ich bin überhaupt nicht Germanisch aber dieses lied gefällt mir.
Es ist wie ein ruf. Ruf auf die Vergangenheit, es ist irgendwie mystisch auch.
Maybe that is the "call" that you have viking/nordic ancestors
live it yourselve
@@iii___iii why not? music transcend language and culture. It connects us all.
Prolly call of god it is a christian song after all
Filipino hear and I just adore ancient Germanic and Nordic languages... So beautiful... Kay ganda
I knew this song first from German band In Extremo. Never knew it was a Swedish song. Sounds so great :)
First for me was Haggard years ago, 2007 I think. Just listening to the In Extremo version now though and it's definitely a banger.
Never heard of it
That's the band! In Extremo! I didn't realize this song was in Swedish
Und der Sänger nennt sich "Herr Mannelig". Ich lernte die im Spiel Gothic kennen. Wo sie manchmal auftreten, wenn man Glück hat. 2002 kannte ich noch kein Schwedisch und konnte es nicht erkennen. Die Aussprache ist auch grauenhaft, muss ich sagen. Noch schlechter als meine :)
日本から。
宗教的な背景を考えるなら、トロールとは魔女や悪魔と同じで、どれだけ魅力的な申し出（主に宝物。物欲）をされても、それに惑わされてはいけない、という教訓の歌なのだろうと思う。
けれど私は、物でしか愛を伝えられない悲しさを感じた。もし彼女が邪悪な存在でなく、異なる種族の男に恋してしまっただけの女なら、それが実ることもあってもいい。しかし、高価で希少な贈り物を積めば積むほど、相手はその対価として彼女を見るようになりそうだ。
断るべき危険な取引の歌にも、愚かな女の悲しい恋の歌にも聞こえる。
Yeah I see your point. Honestly, the troll’s deal doesn’t sound so bad. Maybe she smells, and that’s the real problem! 😶🌫️
Som svensk har jag alltid trott att berättelsen om bergatrollet är en allegori för en hednisk kvinna som förälskar sig i en kristen man. Men han nekar henne på grund av sin tro. Däremot kan man tolka berättelsen på flera vis och jag gillar din tolkning.
Wow! I have a tendency to really be drawn to songs in a minor key. Often times I find them more haunting, then sad. Several months ago, I decided to follow a dream which I have had for a long time, and that is, to learn Swedish, which is what I am currently involved in. Only for a few months though. This song just came up on my TH-cam feed! Lovely absolutely lovely.
First heard this song about 12 years ago. Glad to finally get a reasonable translation. :)
Sometimes, finding out the lyrics detracts from the song. In this case, it enhances it.
Why am I hearing this now? This is so beautiful, I want to listen to more! 🇦🇺
The language is so beautiful.Powerful, peaceful and royal in the same time.
language of kings and warriors then
I (from the US) attended a folkhögskola near Jönköping in the 70's. I don't know the song, but am very familiar with John Bauer, and this painting in particular. Love the Swedish and the pic. Manga tack!
1.25x does hit different
Wow thanks
Vilken vacker melodi! Ackompanjemanget ger låten verkligen sin rätta harmoni och känsla. Hatten av!
This just brought so many memories back...
Memories of watching my older brother play Gothic, as I sat behind him and watched.
Good times.
Oh, die Gothic-Fans sind überall...
Such a sweet language, love this song! Greetings from Spain🇪🇦
Odd. My mother did a painting exactly like this and I never knew where the inspiration came from. That’s so cool it randomly shows up now in TH-cam. She passed away too early, unexpectedly. Feels like mamma’s talking to me some 🥲❤
She does! Humanity floats through spacetime just like this, methinks.
I'm mexican and since I heard this years ago I was able to feel something quite strong pulling my heart, as if something that is asleep within would stirr hearing this.
I love that each word is so crisply enunciated. It makes me think maybe it wouldn't be so hard to learn Swedish
I thought the same exactly. I’m going to start looking for Herr Mannelig to help me along. :)
yeah actually Swedish is one of the most easy languages for english speakers to learn. You should also know that scandinavians have minor problems understandin eatchother so if you learn one scandi languege you will understand all 3. Also swedish and english have the same word structure and many words with mutual meaning. Tho Swedish is not as influenced by french as English is. As a native swede I could help you out if you need it :)
Love from Sweden! Kärlek från Sverige och lycka till med svenskan
This has been one of my favourite songs ever for many years now. Thanks for the beautiful translation!
This song is soo beautiful, I'm amazed no one talks about this song.
This song is so beautiful, I almost cry whenever I hear it. Your rendition is absolutely lovely, thank you for that!
I just came back from 5 days of Sweden and I absolutely fell in love with everything
I’m Swedish, but I’ve never heard this!! It’s beautiful 😍
Samma här :-)
@@janus81 den e bra
In every “stereotypical songs of each country” video on TH-cam, this is the song of Sweden
Fullt förståeligt med tanke på att det här inte är populärmusik direkt. En av mina mest spelade låtar på Spotify dock! Älskar musik inspirerad av folktro/nordisk mytologi. Det är ju faktiskt rätt trendigt nu för tiden, överallt förutom Sverige känns det som. Vilket är tråkigt. Här ses sånt fortfarande av många som nationalsocialism.
@@yggdrasil4986 shame where I set it seems we the people have truly begun the worldly socialism and they're trying to stab everything into corporate ideologies as long as we can hold our hands up in a sign to show that we are still simply put mere humans
Never heard of this song, not swedish, never been to Sweden, don't have any swedish relatives, but damn this song almost made me cry. The troll just wanted to end her immortality by marrying him but he rejected her HARD. I honestly pity her
Well on the other hand is interesting how her purpose to marry is not because she loves him but because she wants to grow old and die. This symbolism is interesting to say the very least plus the knight as a Christian wants immortality with his soul something that most creatures of folklore don't have. Interesting wording too that the troll says "will you marry me yes or no?" She almost isn't begging but making a business arrangement (ironically marriage was a business arrangement in most cases especially nobles)
Until now I had only heard the version by the German band InExtremo. I'm amazed how close InExtremo's interpretation is to the "original" and how good they pronounced the swedish lyrics.
I recommend the acoustic version for everyone who wants to hear Herr Mannelig from InExtremo :)
I listened for the first time with the German band Haggard . Great version too!
I was about to write that too :)
Both InExtremo and Haggard's version are beautiful. I never knew those were covers of a swedish folk song.
I heard In Extremo's version in the game Gothic. It was such a memorable moment!
@@survivor3833 We were in the same spot and did not meet each other? I have been there, too.
I’ve been listening to this song since I was 15 and I had no idea what the language was or what the lyrics were saying I just really liked the way it sounded.
I’m 25 now. And I like even more knowing the storyline
omg i love it. I was introduced to this song by a music teacher at school. and finally I found her again. it's a work of art.
Finding this song has turned out to be an amazing, magical and revealing discovery. I'll enjoy listening to this song while i continue to learn Swedish, just splendid work, thank you very much for the translation. 💓
From: 🇮🇨
Fint med lite svenska sånger som omväxling😎🤩🇸🇪
Tackar😎
The melody structure reminds medieval European ballads (at least how we believe they could sound), like a musical narration. The language is beautiful and the singer's voice too. Greetings from Armenia
Why is this so relaxing for my soul
I've heard this a thounsand times but never knew the translation. I am enchanted by both.
1st time hearing Herr Mannelig was through Haggard as a gothic type music.
This rendition I feel brings it back to its roots, and now with english subtitles I finally understand the whole thing instead after almost 10+ years. Very much appreciated.
This song is the closest song to my heart idk why...
Love to Sweden from a syrian guy that loves these kind of songs ❤️
That’s so awesome!
are you in Syria right now??? I hope you’re safe !!! I’m so sorry about what happened
@@julialovesgfriend
We (Syrians) went through a lot of difficulties.
And we're still smiling 💜
My province is in the south faraway from the earthquake...
Thanks for the question 💜
@@someonefromnowhere6473 im so glad you’re ok! I’m horrified by everything that’s happened, it’s just so painful and I feel so powerless to help - I pray many people will donate so that those that can still be helped will be taken care of, and my heart sincerely breaks for everything and every precious life that was lost :( I’m really very sorry this tragedy happened ❤️
and I send love from Sweden to Syria ❤such an incredibly rich history. I hope all is well with you and your loved ones.
I wrote a shorter version of this song, it goes like this:
Troll - Yo, wanna marry me? I'll give you some cool stuff.
Man - Eeeeeew! No.
[awkward silence]
Troll - Damn.
I love Scandinavian culture. Cherish it.
Absolutely great song!
Greetings from Finland
Це прекрасно, у мене немає слів. Вокал, інструментал, слова пісні, її сенс. Це чудово. Мурахи по шкірі. Ніби в одну пісню вклали все культурне надбання. Дуже атмосферно.
Lets look at this song a bit the troll she offers him wonderous riches and power in return a curse is lifted from herself but the one thing she can't promise is that she would be a loving and true wife. The term good christian woman while being quite backwards in thought and approach when compared to todays thinking was a term meant to signify a good loving and true woman who would support her husband.
(Edit addition) thus her appearance reflected her soul and personality.
Thank you for putting this so nicley! I'm a Swede and it crazy how people don't understand this, trolls are evil child eaters.
Tack!
I think that all the gifts are fake gifts. Steeds, but not those with saddle and bridle, and so on
I am swedish and I have never heard this before but its very beautiful 🇸🇪🇸🇪
Then you should check out the Swedish band singing here: Garmarna. They have more of those old songs from your country, like Gamen
I'm Ukrainian and this is one of the most beautiful songs I have ever heard in my life.
I hope you will have peace in your country soon, lots of love from Sweden
Thanks a lot for these kind words!
Slava Ukraini! Love from Norway.
Heroyam Slava! All Ukrainians really appreciate your support! We'll never forget it!
Our culture and language originally come from Ukraine and southern Russia by the Indoeuropeans.
I came here today because I am obsessing about a computer game built on these themes and with music like this, Bramble - The Mountain King.
Original got to know this song via the German folk metal band In Extremo. Despite not knowing Swedish I love singing along with this ballad. It's such a riveting melody and story.
This helps tremendously in reading comprehension.
I can hear how the spelling is pronounced finally.
Music helps.
It always helps.
It's not modern pronounciation, it's very old-fashioned
Tack sa mycket! A very beautiful song!
I STILL ABSOLUTELY LOVE this song after all these years! 🥰🤗💖
I'm Russian, and I've always liked this song since I heard its cover once. Such a captivating melody! A beautiful language!
SLAVA UKRAİNİ
@-pyaklasmaatlarm-p4072 Leute, was machen Sie hier?Kein Hass un Komentar
Thank you bro. I think Russian is a cool language as well and Russian folk music!
4:16 gives me chills
Just phenomenal. Greetings from Denmark
I grow up with this song, my grandmother sung it to me. I also had John Bauers paintings (pictures in frame) in my shildhood room. The pictures in this video.
I just like that for once, it's a woman proposing to a young man. Feels oddly fresh for such an old song.xD
This is such a beautiful song. Eversince I first heard it 15 years ago, I have come back to it time after time. Maybe Swedish is a language I would like to learn
I'm Swedish on my mother's side. I'm very proud of my Swedish heritage. Listening to the music my ancestors would've listened to is comforting and soothes my soul.
You're one of the few swedes who is proud of being swedish then 😂 today in sweden they're taught to be ashamed of it.
You're US American! Ok? Nothing else
@@madsteeez Sounds like he's half swedish to me.
@@madsteeez are you okay in the head? Lol
@@yasashii89 he’s definately not ashamed of it😂
…and a partridge in a pear tree 😂
More seriously, love love love. Thank you for sharing. I’m French and know so many French folk songs/sung legends. Your song speaks to my soul ❤
Мелодия поднимает какие -то глубинные воспоминания. На уровне ДНК. Очень эпично.
Thanks for the translation. Its awesome and the song is magic spell.
Ни слова почти не понял, но так красиво звучит... Можно слушать постоянно! Хотя эта композиция у меня давно в топ-листе. Но название постоянно вылетает из головы - выговорить могу, а запомнить не всегда удаётся.
So, a woman can love a beast
but a man can't love a troll.
🤭
how do you know hes a beast
You just had to make it about "women good men bad" couldn't you? Small mind.
@@Sajad-tg6zylol that observation holds true in all sorts of folklore and fairytales. Besides, the commentor was making a point in a giggly way, you got too triggered about the observation
Christians can even kill their own parents if they refuse to worship Jesus. Rejecting pagan women/troll is expected from Christian.
”Fairy tales”
Poor Mountain Troll... already her tongue is assumed false. Kinda heartbreaking, so sad, so sad. The song is as beautiful as it is sad and the song is very beautiful.
Right! Like, lying to obtain love is a... horrible thing to do... but I feel bad for her too. To feel you need to do that to be loved... ;_;
I suspect the song had a more romantic narrative,
but with the advent of christianity, a lot of unchristian ways had to be hidden away.
@@powernegnope. Watch what she says when she is rejected
Очень жаль ее :( Каждая женщина заслуживает, чтобы ее любили, даже если она тролль (да еще поющий таким нежным голосом) ;)
Trolls are evil, there is no pity for it. How can you think this is sad? It's a story empowering the young man not to be taken away by the old hag. But acually it's more a story of something even deeper, cause i Scandinavian folklore a troll is a evil fore of nature, like when we lived off the land in Winter in Swe' everything is trying to kill you, the cold, the hungry wolves, hungry men/wommen..
I’m singing along to this song and training my tongue for those rolled “r’s”. Plus it’s a beautiful melody.
Swede here! Ive never heard this before, and im so glad i found it just now! Its so powerful and showing the shrewdness of the insisting troll, tempting with such wonderful gifts over and over, and the cleverness and inner strength of the young man who refuses her proposal! Gives me goosebumps!
(Feels like a bit of a strange translation of "Af neckens och Djävulens stämma"? Seems more like the song migth be refering to Näcken, the mythological creatures that sits in streams with his fiddle and lures people to the water so he can drown them, and not the bodypart of the neck. Or is it just a strange way of refering to Näcken? Probably. The "spawn" part migth be correct though, makes me think of the word "härstamma", like "coming from the same roots as Näcken and the Devil", or it refers to her "stämma", her voice, which she too use to lure or trick people, just like Näcken and the Devil. Rant over, love the song!)
Given its apparent medieval origins, and what I know of medieval Scandinavian poetry, it’s really cool to look at those linguistic nuances. Medieval Scandinavian poetry was practically built on wordplay and allegory, so saying that she “comes from the same roots as” or”is the spawn of” devilish creatures while simultaneously saying that she uses a silver tongue to lure people to their doom is totally on brand
Most definitely refers to the Neck creature.
in my childhood i was deathly afraid of suddenly hearing a fiddle when nearby a body of water. I was like ''if I hear a single damn note of anything fiddle related I'm RUNNING''
@@anon_148This song is medieval social commentary about Cristians resisting the temptation to turn to other religions for practical reasons (e.g. riches).
First time i heard this song performed by In Extremo in Gothic, later i heard other versions of this song from some folk metal bands, and even heard version in my native belarusian language, but it first time where i listen this song in this i think most original version
О, я тоже её там впервые услышал) Я ещё и ночью на тот концерт пришёл, такой невероятный момент был!
Подскажите, пожалуйста, кто по-белорусски эту песню поет? Очень интересно
@@olgas8768 , Litvintroll - Пан Манеліг
I thought id never heard this song before but it feels like its always been with me.
I heard version of this song by In Extremo in the in-game "concert" in the first Gothic videogame. Never new it was Swedish. I'm glad I was suggested this)
Really cool song, love the art in the background too! Love from France!
Art is by John Bauer, my favorite painter/illustrator!
Ouais ouais ouais
Thinking that a Noble boy was so based is amazing