@@SeventhSolar you can tutor it to the top of your deck, if you put it on the top of your deck in anyway as long as it is the first card you draw this turn the effect happens.
@@taylon5200I would probably say impulse draw (exile from top of library, you may play it this turn) is closer to Quickdraw. Miracle cares only about the first card drawn, whereas impulse draw cares about you playing cards the turn you actually drew it. Of course, you lose access to them after (usually anyway), but it's still closer as an overall game effect.
@@edwardking9359 True, the tribe synergy is quite high in that deck. For fun I googled a wild pirate warrior list and the fist result had 2 copies of it in though.^^
The thing to remember about Pandaren Importer is that when rotation happened, it became a meta breaking deck since you could cheese shadow step into always being guaranteed (Since there were 23 rogue spells at rotation, running 20 without shadow step meant it was always guaranteed). Of course, this was more just a Brann enabling dumb stuff and shadow step still being a 5* no matter what happens, but Pandaren Importer was the key piece to make that stupid otk deck. Also, funny that Fogsail Freebooter came straight after as that was an interchangeable key piece in that.
I'm sure other people have already mentioned it, but Fogsail Freebooter was played in Pirate Warrior during united in Stormwind. And I'm sure Rarran just mentally blocked that.
TIME TO WASH AWAY THE FILTH TIME TO WASH AWAY THE FILTH TIME TO but for real i remember sivara being a staple in Nathria with frozen touch because you could activate her with just one or two of those and then she gave you three back to hand for insane lethal reach. As far as i remember she gave them back infused if you cast the original infused so you had like 18 damage from hand.
I haven't played hearthstone in so long but I really enjoy those videos with CGB. His analysis is really interesting and hilarious at times. Rarran explaining what makes a card good is really great for someone like me who hasn't played this game in a very long time. Overall always a treat to see one of those videos, please keep making more like this!
I like this idea of showing cards with an arena draft, the only problem is that it may show cards that didn't share a standard rotation, which makes them impossible to compare if you're only going to compare their performance on standard.
Yeah I super agree with this. Take the Costumed Singer vs Tar Creeper. While Tar Creeper was better in its time over the 1/1 singer CGB has no idea what the meta was like. It turns it from ranking 3 cards based on what is printed on them into rank these three cards based on how they did in different metas at vastly different points in Hearthstones history.
Guys, this isnt about accurate rankings of cards lmao, it's about the discussion of cards with someone outside of the hearthstone circle, it really doesnt matter which one is the "correct pick"
Eh, it’s not impossible to compare, unless what you’re comparing is how well they interacted *against* one another. It makes the comparison different, and perhaps more difficult in some respects, but impossible is a bit too hyperbolic I think.
Sivara outside of Naga mage sees play as a greedy resource tool. It's competitive with Flint imo, but neither have the upper hand in terms of viability ovarall
For the record I didn’t delete it, but I think David decided to cut it cuz I didn’t have an end point, we stopped when we felt like it was enough. Tbh I don’t remember, it’s been a while since we recorded this
I've loved your card gamer review series, and I think using this Arena setup might be the most fun way to do this (although this is mostly due to recognizing the cards as someone who's been doing most of my HS playing recently and in a lot of arena) Great video, hope to see more!
I will be honest Rarran, this might one of the coolest ways to do this. I really appreciate seeing even these "mid level" "efficient maybe" minions and what not. some of these cards didn't have like that big flair of a legendary or a 5+ mana spell but it's still fun to appreciate the unsung 28-30
Honestly, I love that your repertoire of guests has expanded so much beyond HS. I know Covert has been on before, but Its great to see you interacting with so many other card players, not being stuck in just HS. It speaks volumns about who you are as a person. Keep the great content coming!
pandaren importer was busted for a bit in standard, I believe in rogue? Specifically in 1st expansion post rotation. Because you could completely fill the rogue's deck with spells, since the available card pool was so small, you could reliably get things like shadow step off it in order to go infinite
As usual the real culprit was Brann Bronzebeard. The combo was Brann + Importer + Fogsail Freebooter. Importer always gives two shadowsteps and freebooter deals four damage when you had a weapon equipped and Brann was on the board.
1:41, so Malygos was also played in the Drageon Druid's, but yea all 3 saw play 28:03 Bronze Gatekeeper was a 1/5 until last year, so it saw no play 30:05 Pandaren Importer had an exploit where you infinite shadowstep it, so it got temporarily nerfed to 3 mana 2/4 until rotation 32:30 Frogsail Freebooter was the same idea but for Quest Pirate Warrior, don't remember if it was tier 1 like Dragon Priest, but the quest did get nerfed
The ceiling on Commander Sivara is higher than Flint Firearm. Getting 3 spells that you've already cast is better than draw 3 or even draw 3 spells, because you are getting back spells that are important enough that you've already played them, meaning you are getting 3 really good cards, on average. There are 2 problems with it's use case though: 1 if you draw it too late and cannot meet the requirement of playing 3 cards, or if your hand is already full, it's effectively a dead card for several turns; however, if you are drawing Sivara too late, chances are you've stabilized and its ok if it just sits for a little. 2, and actually more detrimental to the card's value is if you draw it too early. If drawn too early, the spells you are getting back are more likely to be ok early game spells, that you are less likely to want to get an extra copy of, in comparison to the your bigger spells which will either win you the game, or stabilize you. You almost never want Sivara in your opening hand, but sometimes you get an unlucky early draw. Flint Firearm is generally good. It's a great filler card, because it's good on it's own merit, but it's also early in the rotation right now, and I can't see it holding it's value after the next expansion is added, and more cards are in the format. It is more likely than not to be powerful if played late, and in some situations can win you matchups which you otherwise would lose, but this is more rare. Overall, the ceiling is higher on Sivara, which saw play in several mage decks, not just Naga Mage (also several variations of high level/legend variations of mage decks). And was usually very strong in control matchups, because it gives you three cards that you really want, and allows you to do thing which you otherwise would not be able to do in the mage class. It's marginal, but Sivara is the better card, even though Flint Firearm is generally good (however, it's not as generally good as, for example, Astalor).
Also it seemed like he didn't understand that the end of the turn happens right after you press "end turn". Since he said you get no value from it, if it just gets killed. Can't quite remember, but in Magic, end of the turn stuff worked a bit differently (?). However I might have misunderstood him and he did understand it (ESL moment).
@@YourSuizo well, in magic the opponent has a chance to respond to everything you do if they have like a counterspell or something. Or an instant-speed removal spell, they could remove your minion before it gets to your end of turn
Pandaren importer was such a great card for a long time, I even still remember when it had the combo with rogue to always discover shadowstep, thus being able to play a lot of cards per turn and getting insane value from cards that benefited from it
Savara was kept in a lot of mages during its time. Getting extra cold cases, solid alibis, cheap burn, etc was insane and heavily played overall just to get the cards back much less naga mage
Rarran is the master of the Arena, all he gets is 12 wins because of an ancient bushido code that if he gets anything less he commits sudoku. Can't wait to see him impact his wisdom
"This one card needed to be nerfed from 2/1 to 1/1 because its too strong and busted, so of course this other card that is just... fine as a taunt minion is more busted" Give it up to Rarran, Card evaluator extraordinaire everyone 😂
I understand that Rarran isn't a wild gamer, but Fogsail Freebooter saw play in the most oppressive deck in wild (questline pirate warrior) for the longest time, whereas Whelp Wrangler sees play only in Zarimi decks in standard. Cool vid btw, I really enjoy watching these CGB collabs here and on his channel.
time and again i find myself coming to this videos more to just hear rarran explain how a bunch of random cards fit into the game and its history. 10/10 would select from 3 again
I only watch this channel because of the MTG videos. I don't play hearthstone, but I like playing along in my head with all the mtg content creators. Wish he would post more.
I played Mech Paladin back in Boomsday and Gatekeeper was a solid card. I quit HS around the time Descent of Dragons released, so I don't know how good Elemental Allies was, but Gatekeeper had earned spots in multiple viable decks, so I would not say that MesaFalconGuy was incorrect choosing the Gatekeeper
I thought the same thing but was worried I was just being biased against elemental allies since I have so many horrible memories of randomly generating it in decks with no elementals.
I feel like you should have shortly explained how Chaos Creation works after he picked because there is no way he couldve known why that card pre-nerf was pretty busted and it wouldve been nice to see his take on that.
I don't think I've ever seen Sunfury Clergy. I can't believe how big of a power creep that is from Earthen Ring Farseer, which was actually a decent card in standard.
Triplewick Trickster is a really nice card for the upper curve of elemental mage. It really allows you to push disgusting amounts of damage when combined with tainted remnant and fireballs
God this show is amazing. As someone who dipped out of hearthstone after The great tournament it was really cool to guess alongside the mesa falcon guy
You need to show CGB your ogre/shrek rogue video where you played king pud, swung all your rush minions into their minions to pump your attack up to lethal and swung face. Loved that!
I'd argue that Bronze Gatekeeper is the better card. I joined during Descent of Dragons and I did see Elemental Allies occasionally. That said, one thing that Rarran forgot to mention is that while Bronze Gatekeeper did see a decent play in Mech decks of the time, it's also CURRENTLY in Standard cause it''s that good. Granted it got a buff when it entered the core set, but I remember getting my shit busted in by a Mech Rogue and recently when Mech Mage saw a resurgence (before rotation), I got flattened by it when Mecha Shark was good. I'll throw in Wild for extra credit, cause while it's not in general rotation because there are a lot of good mechs in wild. It does occasionally see play for the stats buff for the 2 mana 1/3 gain +1/+1 when you summon a Mech.
I personally prefer this type of videos with cards you didn't prepare beforehand. It forces you to also engage in those videos AND it gives us an opportunity to laugh at you @Rarran
CGB, we don't say Rarran forgot to remind you about minions not being spells because we think you can't remember, it's because it is something he very frequently neglects to mention whenever he works with MTG content creators, especially those that aren't familiar with HS.
28:29 Mech Hunter main back in rise of shadows. Rarran is right, Bronze Gatekeeper was a very meh option in the deck, mostly because it was a 1/5 at the time
To comment on life sentence, it was never ran in the main deck, but it was generally one of the best discover options for mage to remove dangerous deathrattles and big minions, only overshadowed by its sister card of the set in objection. To add onto bronze gatekeeper, it was 3 mana 1/5 originally, which made it a tough add for mech hunters at the time as 1 attack was not enough for a taunt to matter. I dont think CGB got the understanding that whelp wrangler saying "get a 1/2 whelp with taunt" is not adding it to board, but instead adding it to hand.
I actually get to legends 2 months straight with elemental mage in standard. I have like 59% winrate over 110 games. I think people dont play it just because people already get bored with the tempo deck and want to play more fun things. Edit: I just looked at my stats and I did have 64% win rate with that deck.
That Deckhand. I played a lot of Caverns Quest Rogue back in the day. But how was CGB going to know that the Deckhand is often a 1-mana 5/5 with haste that you can bounce into your hand repeatedly?
bro its like one of the million circumstances where deckhand was good. every second rogue deck played it because it could get buffed with coldblood/7-mana horse/oil from gvg/keleseth/southsea captain and many others. not even talking about him pulling out patches from your deck
30:07 who remebers importer I belive it was rouge that in the funny way dominated standard (I think it dominated I just remeber this as goofy combo that should have never existed)
17:00 I'm guessing you are talking about data from Standard in general, instead of checking class data, because there is no way someone say that Bloodsail Corsair was great in Mage, a class that rarely equip weapons and have no buffs whatsoever.
While Flint is probably played more because it's a Nuetral, Commander Sivara definitely saw play for the 2 years it was in standard, not only in Naga mage either.
I forgot to post this....
What a silly individual you were
Thats a shocker, Rarran
That halerios
That's what too much edging does to a man
I forgor
2:53 "It's like a quickdraw effect"
-Rarran when talking about the quickdraw keyword, 2024
Pretty sure mtg has a quick draw like effect. Miracle I think?
@@taylon5200 Yeah, that's the one. Triggers if you drew it this turn (has to be randomly drawn, can't tutor or return it).
@@SeventhSolar you can tutor it to the top of your deck, if you put it on the top of your deck in anyway as long as it is the first card you draw this turn the effect happens.
@@SeventhSolar You can play it for cheaper if it's specifically the _first_ card you draw in a turn
@@taylon5200I would probably say impulse draw (exile from top of library, you may play it this turn) is closer to Quickdraw. Miracle cares only about the first card drawn, whereas impulse draw cares about you playing cards the turn you actually drew it. Of course, you lose access to them after (usually anyway), but it's still closer as an overall game effect.
"I don't know a Tier 1 Deck that Fogsail Freebooter was in"
Bro forgot 5 years of Pirate Warrior
It was so traumatic expierience he repressed these memories
anything with a pirate tag would have been played in that, though.
Bro we were playing bloodsail raider in zooloock without any weapon
@@edwardking9359 True, the tribe synergy is quite high in that deck. For fun I googled a wild pirate warrior list and the fist result had 2 copies of it in though.^^
@@eroslampitella2629was it like just for funsies or patches reasons?
"Minions are not a spell" makes me proud
5 seconds later for the bit:
"Malygos, draw spells until your hand is full. Are minions spells?"
Rarran shitting on elemental mage is wild because it is STILL, even after the rotation, the HIGHEST winrate deck for mage currently at 54.13%.
isnt elemental mage one of those lower rank decks? Obviously still playable in legend as far as I know, but it might not be quite as good.
The thing to remember about Pandaren Importer is that when rotation happened, it became a meta breaking deck since you could cheese shadow step into always being guaranteed (Since there were 23 rogue spells at rotation, running 20 without shadow step meant it was always guaranteed). Of course, this was more just a Brann enabling dumb stuff and shadow step still being a 5* no matter what happens, but Pandaren Importer was the key piece to make that stupid otk deck.
Also, funny that Fogsail Freebooter came straight after as that was an interchangeable key piece in that.
14:20 "This one has a clear winner"
Voxy: "Feet..? You want the feet, Rarran?"
Uhh... context for that Voxy line?
I'm sure other people have already mentioned it, but Fogsail Freebooter was played in Pirate Warrior during united in Stormwind.
And I'm sure Rarran just mentally blocked that.
Yep, and I think that was the best deck in the format or close to it, largely because Patches was so amazing.
Sivara was played in every single mage deck outside of big spell mage the first year it was in game, Rarran, you are just wrong
Facts
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but for real i remember sivara being a staple in Nathria with frozen touch because you could activate her with just one or two of those and then she gave you three back to hand for insane lethal reach. As far as i remember she gave them back infused if you cast the original infused so you had like 18 damage from hand.
Exactly. Also, he said he couldn't think of a single tier 1 deck for freebooter, ignoring the scourge that was pirate warrior.
Yeah it got played a ton to my recollection
Even in wild this card is nuts because you can get multiple copies of ice block
17:25 dont forget that Deckhand is also a pirat for your boy patches
I haven't played hearthstone in so long but I really enjoy those videos with CGB.
His analysis is really interesting and hilarious at times. Rarran explaining what makes a card good is really great for someone like me who hasn't played this game in a very long time.
Overall always a treat to see one of those videos, please keep making more like this!
Rerren slipped and revealed his inner thoughts when he said "sunFURRY champion". We caught him boys. 25:21
We all know how he feels about Aya. And at 29:53 he talks about how “fine” he finds the pandaren importer.
I genuinely do hope that you continue this, as it's genuinely such a fun format!
I like this idea of showing cards with an arena draft, the only problem is that it may show cards that didn't share a standard rotation, which makes them impossible to compare if you're only going to compare their performance on standard.
Yeah I super agree with this. Take the Costumed Singer vs Tar Creeper. While Tar Creeper was better in its time over the 1/1 singer CGB has no idea what the meta was like. It turns it from ranking 3 cards based on what is printed on them into rank these three cards based on how they did in different metas at vastly different points in Hearthstones history.
Guys, this isnt about accurate rankings of cards lmao, it's about the discussion of cards with someone outside of the hearthstone circle, it really doesnt matter which one is the "correct pick"
Eh, it’s not impossible to compare, unless what you’re comparing is how well they interacted *against* one another. It makes the comparison different, and perhaps more difficult in some respects, but impossible is a bit too hyperbolic I think.
Early mesa falcon gets the worm
Sivara outside of Naga mage sees play as a greedy resource tool. It's competitive with Flint imo, but neither have the upper hand in terms of viability ovarall
flint is a lot stronger in Arena since it doesn't require setup.
Also generating Drilly the kid auto win you the game.
@@hinugundamB They were talking about Standard, and Sivara was much stronge than Flint, she saw play in nearly every single Mage deck lol
Gonna quote a comment that seems to have been deleted.
“The video just ends?”
For the record I didn’t delete it, but I think David decided to cut it cuz I didn’t have an end point, we stopped when we felt like it was enough. Tbh I don’t remember, it’s been a while since we recorded this
@@Rarran
Yeah, I know you didn’t delete it, since I saw you responded to it, and that wouldn’t make any sense.
@@Rarran Bad david! The end point is the end of the draft!
@@RarranCan we get the rest of this on your second channel? Maybe even just unedited, I want to see the discussion of the rest of the cards.
@@Rarran I'm not lying when I say I would watch an 8 hour vod of this kind of content
More of these please, fantastic content @Rarran!
I've loved your card gamer review series, and I think using this Arena setup might be the most fun way to do this (although this is mostly due to recognizing the cards as someone who's been doing most of my HS playing recently and in a lot of arena)
Great video, hope to see more!
I will be honest Rarran, this might one of the coolest ways to do this. I really appreciate seeing even these "mid level" "efficient maybe" minions and what not. some of these cards didn't have like that big flair of a legendary or a 5+ mana spell but it's still fun to appreciate the unsung 28-30
I love how in every video, he explicitly clarifies right away that as a Magic player, he knows minions in Hearthstone aren't spells 😂
and that he plays mesa falcon
Honestly, I love that your repertoire of guests has expanded so much beyond HS. I know Covert has been on before, but Its great to see you interacting with so many other card players, not being stuck in just HS. It speaks volumns about who you are as a person.
Keep the great content coming!
Great idea for the format. I want to hear his thoughts about mothership and twin tyrant though :( such an abrupt end. Will there be a part two?
pandaren importer was busted for a bit in standard, I believe in rogue? Specifically in 1st expansion post rotation. Because you could completely fill the rogue's deck with spells, since the available card pool was so small, you could reliably get things like shadow step off it in order to go infinite
Yep, it was a one card infinite combo that did nothing in isolation, but could be used to fuel other cards' abilities.
As usual the real culprit was Brann Bronzebeard. The combo was Brann + Importer + Fogsail Freebooter. Importer always gives two shadowsteps and freebooter deals four damage when you had a weapon equipped and Brann was on the board.
@@angelalawter2663 if knife juggler was in rotation it would also work. The importer is clearly the broken card here
1:41, so Malygos was also played in the Drageon Druid's, but yea all 3 saw play
28:03 Bronze Gatekeeper was a 1/5 until last year, so it saw no play
30:05 Pandaren Importer had an exploit where you infinite shadowstep it, so it got temporarily nerfed to 3 mana 2/4 until rotation
32:30 Frogsail Freebooter was the same idea but for Quest Pirate Warrior, don't remember if it was tier 1 like Dragon Priest, but the quest did get nerfed
The ceiling on Commander Sivara is higher than Flint Firearm. Getting 3 spells that you've already cast is better than draw 3 or even draw 3 spells, because you are getting back spells that are important enough that you've already played them, meaning you are getting 3 really good cards, on average. There are 2 problems with it's use case though: 1 if you draw it too late and cannot meet the requirement of playing 3 cards, or if your hand is already full, it's effectively a dead card for several turns; however, if you are drawing Sivara too late, chances are you've stabilized and its ok if it just sits for a little. 2, and actually more detrimental to the card's value is if you draw it too early. If drawn too early, the spells you are getting back are more likely to be ok early game spells, that you are less likely to want to get an extra copy of, in comparison to the your bigger spells which will either win you the game, or stabilize you. You almost never want Sivara in your opening hand, but sometimes you get an unlucky early draw.
Flint Firearm is generally good. It's a great filler card, because it's good on it's own merit, but it's also early in the rotation right now, and I can't see it holding it's value after the next expansion is added, and more cards are in the format. It is more likely than not to be powerful if played late, and in some situations can win you matchups which you otherwise would lose, but this is more rare.
Overall, the ceiling is higher on Sivara, which saw play in several mage decks, not just Naga Mage (also several variations of high level/legend variations of mage decks). And was usually very strong in control matchups, because it gives you three cards that you really want, and allows you to do thing which you otherwise would not be able to do in the mage class. It's marginal, but Sivara is the better card, even though Flint Firearm is generally good (however, it's not as generally good as, for example, Astalor).
Rarrán's schedule is non existent.
Rarran out here trying to help give a hint and gets accused of gaslighting smfh 😂 love these.
I think CGB thought Whelp Wrangler summons the Whelp. Which if true, would make it even stronger than it currently is, and he still didn't pick it.
Also it seemed like he didn't understand that the end of the turn happens right after you press "end turn". Since he said you get no value from it, if it just gets killed.
Can't quite remember, but in Magic, end of the turn stuff worked a bit differently (?). However I might have misunderstood him and he did understand it (ESL moment).
@@YourSuizo well, in magic the opponent has a chance to respond to everything you do if they have like a counterspell or something. Or an instant-speed removal spell, they could remove your minion before it gets to your end of turn
"David, put the card I'm forgetting on the screen" is Rarran's version of "Where's that piece of paper I had in my hand yesterday morning?"
"I KNOW people played Ogre-Gang outlaw" oh CGB...
This was an awesome format! I'd love to see more of this.
This deserves a part 2
Pandaren importer was such a great card for a long time, I even still remember when it had the combo with rogue to always discover shadowstep, thus being able to play a lot of cards per turn and getting insane value from cards that benefited from it
32:35
Fogsail was solid in Quest Pirate War, which was one of the strongest decks in its meta, even getting nerfed twice (the quest and the collosal)
Savara was kept in a lot of mages during its time. Getting extra cold cases, solid alibis, cheap burn, etc was insane and heavily played overall just to get the cards back much less naga mage
Rarran is the master of the Arena, all he gets is 12 wins because of an ancient bushido code that if he gets anything less he commits sudoku. Can't wait to see him impact his wisdom
You guys are just awesome together. Always look forward to these videos. Always a good time.
29:52 "She looks fine right? No? Okay..."
-Rarran talking about Pandaren Importer
"This one card needed to be nerfed from 2/1 to 1/1 because its too strong and busted, so of course this other card that is just... fine as a taunt minion is more busted" Give it up to Rarran, Card evaluator extraordinaire everyone 😂
Well he was looking at the 1/1 version, not the 2/1 version. And tar creeper was a staple of its time, not just fine as a taunt minion
Every non-aggro deck was playing 2x Tar Creeper back then
Every hunter and mage deck was playing singer as a 2/1 and 1/1, but not as much anymore. Can't remember when tar creeper stopped seeing play though.
I understand that Rarran isn't a wild gamer, but Fogsail Freebooter saw play in the most oppressive deck in wild (questline pirate warrior) for the longest time, whereas Whelp Wrangler sees play only in Zarimi decks in standard.
Cool vid btw, I really enjoy watching these CGB collabs here and on his channel.
Rarran: Ogre gang doesn't see play anymore
Me: RIDE LIKE THE WIND
Rarran when seeing Footman: "there is only one good choice here"
"We play 1 mana 2/1 with a downside in Magic"
I just love Ragavans downside, dies to doom blade
Tainted remnant is actually crazy. Playing it on 4 is crazy and you can split it for even more value
i love how he hypes up the elementals and the deck is super strong today
time and again i find myself coming to this videos more to just hear rarran explain how a bunch of random cards fit into the game and its history. 10/10 would select from 3 again
Vid ended too early the people want more rarran and CGB
ps massively enjoying the Rarran and bros extended card game universe, keep it up man
I only watch this channel because of the MTG videos. I don't play hearthstone, but I like playing along in my head with all the mtg content creators. Wish he would post more.
And the rets of the vídeo?
Rarran as 4 mana 2/5 with taunt and "Adjacent minions are immune while attacking."
also me as sunfuRRy clergy
Tainted Remnant was a two of in elemental mage which was tier 2/1 for multiple expansions
I played Mech Paladin back in Boomsday and Gatekeeper was a solid card. I quit HS around the time Descent of Dragons released, so I don't know how good Elemental Allies was, but Gatekeeper had earned spots in multiple viable decks, so I would not say that MesaFalconGuy was incorrect choosing the Gatekeeper
I thought the same thing but was worried I was just being biased against elemental allies since I have so many horrible memories of randomly generating it in decks with no elementals.
CGB screaming MY BOIIII for the Ogre is truly a top 5 moment of this channel
I feel like you should have shortly explained how Chaos Creation works after he picked because there is no way he couldve known why that card pre-nerf was pretty busted and it wouldve been nice to see his take on that.
cool way to change the format up, definitely get to see some cards you wouldn't before
I don't think I've ever seen Sunfury Clergy. I can't believe how big of a power creep that is from Earthen Ring Farseer, which was actually a decent card in standard.
Where’s the other 20?
Triplewick Trickster is a really nice card for the upper curve of elemental mage. It really allows you to push disgusting amounts of damage when combined with tainted remnant and fireballs
rarran is the type of guy who pick arena card based on how good they are in standard instead of arena
i suggested this idea for video a while ago and glad to see it happen!!
God this show is amazing. As someone who dipped out of hearthstone after The great tournament it was really cool to guess alongside the mesa falcon guy
I really like the videos you make together. Keep it going :) Thanks for the content
You need to show CGB your ogre/shrek rogue video where you played king pud, swung all your rush minions into their minions to pump your attack up to lethal and swung face. Loved that!
I'd argue that Bronze Gatekeeper is the better card. I joined during Descent of Dragons and I did see Elemental Allies occasionally. That said, one thing that Rarran forgot to mention is that while Bronze Gatekeeper did see a decent play in Mech decks of the time, it's also CURRENTLY in Standard cause it''s that good. Granted it got a buff when it entered the core set, but I remember getting my shit busted in by a Mech Rogue and recently when Mech Mage saw a resurgence (before rotation), I got flattened by it when Mecha Shark was good. I'll throw in Wild for extra credit, cause while it's not in general rotation because there are a lot of good mechs in wild. It does occasionally see play for the stats buff for the 2 mana 1/3 gain +1/+1 when you summon a Mech.
I personally prefer this type of videos with cards you didn't prepare beforehand. It forces you to also engage in those videos AND it gives us an opportunity to laugh at you @Rarran
I love that CGB just goes to the highest upside on every card possible
CGB, we don't say Rarran forgot to remind you about minions not being spells because we think you can't remember, it's because it is something he very frequently neglects to mention whenever he works with MTG content creators, especially those that aren't familiar with HS.
I love their dynamic
This is a really neat way of rating cards! I think it would be cool too if they were rated on the current arena run too!
I remembered seeing that :o Ogre-Gang Outlaw whooped ass was Awesome 14:09 Hilarious too :D
28:29 Mech Hunter main back in rise of shadows. Rarran is right, Bronze Gatekeeper was a very meh option in the deck, mostly because it was a 1/5 at the time
Ah I love this combo of CGB and Rarran.
Rarran CGB collabs are my favourite vids, please keep them coming on both channels!
Loved this video!
Wasn't the Padaren Importer nerft because of the rogue deck that kept bouncing it by having all the spells except shadow step in their deck.
22:37 when
Is there a part 2 ? This feels like it cut off suddenly and I was just left hanging
5:40
Sivara will live forever in my heart as the only thing that makes lightshow mage even remotely possible q_q
To comment on life sentence, it was never ran in the main deck, but it was generally one of the best discover options for mage to remove dangerous deathrattles and big minions, only overshadowed by its sister card of the set in objection.
To add onto bronze gatekeeper, it was 3 mana 1/5 originally, which made it a tough add for mech hunters at the time as 1 attack was not enough for a taunt to matter.
I dont think CGB got the understanding that whelp wrangler saying "get a 1/2 whelp with taunt" is not adding it to board, but instead adding it to hand.
I actually get to legends 2 months straight with elemental mage in standard. I have like 59% winrate over 110 games. I think people dont play it just because people already get bored with the tempo deck and want to play more fun things.
Edit: I just looked at my stats and I did have 64% win rate with that deck.
Yeah this was a wild take its a consistent tier 2 deck and by far the best budget deck
could you please share the code?
wait am i missing something here, why was southsea deckhand picked as a mage???
n the first 10 seconds of the video, pick the best card in standard
@@Rarran oh true, my bad.
Rarru and CBT back with another banger.
That Deckhand. I played a lot of Caverns Quest Rogue back in the day.
But how was CGB going to know that the Deckhand is often a 1-mana 5/5 with haste that you can bounce into your hand repeatedly?
bro its like one of the million circumstances where deckhand was good. every second rogue deck played it because it could get buffed with coldblood/7-mana horse/oil from gvg/keleseth/southsea captain and many others. not even talking about him pulling out patches from your deck
1:59 what a G
"Minions are not spell" 2 seconds later "Draw spells until your hand is full...does it draw minions?"
I think Rarran's subconscious made him forget about questline warrior when talking about fogsail freebooter so the memories couldn't hurt him anymore.
This is my favorite covert video yet real good
Bit late but as someone who just listens to these things, @covertgoblue reading out the cards name, mana, stats and effect is so nice.
Rarran sleep schedule is non-existent
Is there a CGB vid where Rarran does a MTGA bot draft?
30:07 who remebers importer I belive it was rouge that in the funny way dominated standard (I think it dominated I just remeber this as goofy combo that should have never existed)
Straight up, I've never seen elemental allies being played, idk wtf Rarran is talking about
17:00 I'm guessing you are talking about data from Standard in general, instead of checking class data, because there is no way someone say that Bloodsail Corsair was great in Mage, a class that rarely equip weapons and have no buffs whatsoever.
Triplewick trickster is in elemental burn mage. Got to diamond 5 last month with it.
Remember that time that sunfury clergy randomly received rush for absolutely no reason that even the devs were confused
While Flint is probably played more because it's a Nuetral, Commander Sivara definitely saw play for the 2 years it was in standard, not only in Naga mage either.
I love when blue is on the channel!
Rarran using the legendary reverse gaslighting technique
Watching Rarran saying two of the key cards in my 60+% winrate elemental mage deck are shit 👀
Fogsail Freebooter was in Quest Warrior, no? I cant remember if it was in the good version of ir or the nerfed version.
probably PTSD, supressed pirat warrior meta memorys...😅