How to Orchestrate like John Williams - E.T.
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- In this video, we'll be learning how to orchestrate like John Williams! From learning the basics of orchestration to creating intricate pieces, we'll be learning everything there is to know about orchestrating.
If you're a fan of John Williams' work, then this video is for you! In this lesson, we'll be learning the basics of orchestration and how to create intricate pieces of music. From playing along with the music to understanding the structure of an orchestral piece, this video is perfect for anyone interested in learning how to orchestrate.
By the end of this video, you'll have a better understanding of how Williams orchestrates his music, and you'll be able to appreciate his work more deeply!
If you're interested in learning more about orchestration, then this video is for you! We'll discuss John Williams' work in detail, uncovering the secrets behind his iconic scores. If you're a fan of John Williams' work, then this video is a must-watch!
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Much better than Ryan Leach, who has to keep cutting to himself, waving his arms, which breaks my concentration on the subject every time. From watching him, I learned that if you keep the viewer's attention on the music, without constant interruption of what you're viewing, it makes focus much easier.
Also use as much actual music [audio] as possible, and keep words as minimal as possible, but even just showing the notation on the screen is FAR better than showing yourself talking.
"Talking about music is like dancing about architecture". I also learned early on that just listening to music tells me far more than anyone can explain. Like a picture being worth a thousand words, the same applies to music.
Maximize the audio demonstrations and minimize the talking as much as humanly possible.
This lesson rocks I'll definitely buy it thank you.
Thank you. I am glad you liked it
Great way to teach about chord voicings in the orchestra, please make more ! ;)
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I LOVE your videos. They are so informative.
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Excellent Visuals and Explanation!
Please do more like this. (Please 🙏)
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So coooool!!!
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Fantastic video!
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Wow this is a nice way of teaching it. Well done
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Sounds good!
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I just discovered this channel and instantly subscribed. Thank you for providing this. Although I can't read/write notes I can take a lot out of this. Orchestration techniques are the topic I exactly need, especially when they are used in filmmusic.
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Great video. I think it's important for the composer/arranger to think in "layers", and that all layers in an orchestration have a musical meaning by themselves. Just my 2 cents. Cheers!
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Amazing! More like this, please. Will there be a part two for John Williams videos?
Thanks Benjamin. I will do more about Williams scores
Awesome video man, I hope you'll do more like that ! You got a new sub 😄
Thank you Paul. Really, your feedbacks are valuable
Wow, very cool! It would be so cool if we can learn this with MIDI Piano Roll instead of Notation! I think many of us can't read notation! I would love to see that in future Videos or Courses! Would instant buy one or more. Best regards from Austria Flo
Great suggestion! I will keep in my mind.
i highly recommend to learn how to read music if you wanna work with orchestration and composition, it's super beneficial and essential if you want to have your works played by a real orchestra :)
Beautiful, please make it for Morricone, too!
Thank you. I will do it.
@@thesecretsoforchestration thanks man!
日本ではJ-POPの解説動画が多くオーケストラの解説が少ないので助かります！
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Do you use the original recordings? The playing of the single lines sounds incredible, e.g. the swelling of motion of the horns sound.
noteperformer?
Yes, this sounds are from noteperformer 3. However, my other lectures have been made on cubase. I have used spitfire audio and orchestral tools libraries for midi mock-up
@@thesecretsoforchestration I never would have guessed this is not a recording wow
Yes, the noteperformer is very suitable plugin, however midi-mockup will be better than this.
I wish I got in conservatory this year cause I really love orchestration..
I wish too.
John Williams doesn’t waist his time orchestrating himself he just makes sketches. He mostly composes five lines or different stems. Then he gives it to equally brilliant orchestrators. 😊
Is agre with you about the time restriction. However John Williams is unique composer who make his sketches more clear and half-prepared before giving to orchestrator
Would you do a video over Joe Hisaishi's orchestrations?
I don't think he's orchestration more professional
Thanks. What kind of drums does John Williams use?
It depends on the film he scored the music. For example, in Geisha film, hə used a lot of Japanese percussion.
@@thesecretsoforchestration
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What kind of drums are used here in this music?
@@mmoo364 Let's follow the percussion lines on the score, the instruments are always replaced by others. For example, there are triangle and piatti in the first bar, while players change their instruments to other one. You should know that there are 2 players only, but they are used different percussions after a few bars.
Towards the end of the clip, the music playing in the background segues from the E.T. Flying Theme to something else...I don't recognize what it is but I would love to know? Any help?
Thank you for your question. There is a some fragments from my symphonic overture after original E.T. music.
@@thesecretsoforchestration Wow, if you wrote that music I am quite impressed, and wonder if you have any pieces to listen to in full here on YT. Are there any examples of your music we can listen to?
Hi,do You know who and what for create harmonic Major/ionian b6?
and why there is a conspiracy of silence?
No one teaches the functional harmony of harmonic Major
and the ionian b6 has a few rootless dominants on few degrees
modal music the same,silence about harm.Major...
Maybe you could do something,please?
Do You know any songs with harmonic Major modes?
Thank you for the question. The composition techniques will be explained in future course.
Can somebody explain the reason of using Cadd2 chord here?
The add2 is a color tone. It has no function associated.
You can experiment with added note chords by building a triad and adding a single non chordal tone to color the chord.
@@LeonardoOuteiro Thank you for clarification. Also, when the add chords are voiced between brass section, the color tones used less than other tones (1,3,5) of triad. Basically, Williams used the color tone "D" just on the horns, while low brass play the triad.
You'll find John Williams uses them a lot when he wants the music to sound "sentimental"
I agree with you. Since he was jazz player all his works contains a lot of jazz harmony.
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What if the canceled Imagi Studios movie Gatchaman was composed by John Williams? What would it sound like?
Hint: A world in chaos, an alien evil, a lone warrior is found; Earth's last hope, five shall rise...
This will need a director like Steven Spielberg
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TH-cam said Williams orchestrate his compositions? Has he enough time?
"Top 10 orchestration cliches to avoid" would have sufficed
John Williams actually doesn't do orchestration. He composes the themes but the orchestration is outsourced to specialized orchestrators.
Not true. Conrad Pope and other orchestrators he's worked with have stated multiple times that Williams or orchestrates 90% of the scores himself.
@@BaileyFamFCso why does JW says the contrary himself?
@@LearnCompositionOnline Show me where he says that?
One problem with the title. John Williams doesn't do the orchestrations.
I don't know where is this information. Actually, J.Williams works on his orchestration, however he colloborate with some orchestrators, Pope Conrad, Herbert Spencer, John Neufeld and etc.
why does everyone want to sound like John Williams tho.. i literally don't hear this kind of music in films anymore.. it's great but it's not common anymore.
Because, there is no better. That's all.
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When I first became aware of John Williams in the early 80's I was mostly annoyed by his composition as it felt like he was stealing from Holst and Richard Strauss almost entirely... I'm not sure my feelings have changed in 40 years
İ have the same practice. Actually, all kind of ideas have been written by classical composers. now we should just analyze them to write something. I stopped analyze film composers.
I'm sorry, but you guys need to stop with this. John Williams is probably the greatest film composer of his generation, probably the last half century(I mean, why is this video, and most videos about contemporary film scores, about JOHN WILLIAMS's scores and not others... maybe because he's the most popular, beloved, and interesting? I mean, even Hans Zimmer basically referred to John Williams as a God), and all some people want to say is that he steals from the likes of Holst, Strauss, Stravinsky, Dvorak, I've heard Hovhaness, and probably others, but this is patently absurd, he writes his own melodies, his own themes, and they are completely original, his harmonic language, that's chord choice and progressions, are very complex and interesting, as are his orchestrations.
So no, Star Wars does not sound like Holst, except for a very few measures, and frankly, John Williams did it better, varying the rhythm and bass line notes, nor does it sound like Stravinsky, save for a few measures. The Jaws theme does not sound like Dvorak's 9th symphony, the notes are completely different as is the ostinato, as for Hovhaness, I am not familiar with his music, but even if there are parts that are reminiscent, you can say that about every composer, I mean, as Hindemith said, "there are only 12 notes ... (and you need to you them wisely), (and at some point some bits of music will sound similar), but that doesn't mean a composer stole/copied the music.
With due respect, if you think John Williams just rips off classical composers, you can do the same, it's all out there, just take your pick and have at it, but I doubt you'll come up with anything half as good as John because he is a musical genius of the highest order. He may not be Mozart or Beethoven, Strauss, Stravinsky, Tchaikovsky, or Wagner, but he is the closest thing we have to any of them today.
@@thesecretsoforchestration I was actually going to say something like that before I read your comment and the one above. I personally think this work from E.T. is a great example because it is relatively simple, at least the "flying theme" or whatever you want to call it is, being written in C and harmony, underlying texture having a lot of repeated notes, but yes, I'm sure many examples, possibly better examples, abound by classical composers, go as far back as you want, even to Pre-Bach, Palestrina if you like, and you'll find examples from the simple to most complex.
John Williams is actually one of the most complex film composers, and I would suggest easier examples by the likes of James Horner, for one, to illustrate some points.
There's only one way to orchestrate like John Williams. And he is being John Williams. These loud TH-cam video titles sound funny and grotesque. Better tell how Fikret Amirov orchestrated. Or you won't be able to explain in ten minutes how "1001 Nights" was orchestrated?😢
Thanks Roumen, for your kind comment. İf İ explained by Fikret Amirov's score, then you will be say why you didn't explain Shostakovich, right? I shared John's works as students like his music. My job is teach. Actually, I am waiting more professional feedback, which can help me to improve my methods.
I'm sure you have an approach and some credits. But as you posted the title you are confusing young people can learn to orchestrate in ten minutes and many people here do. Then we see under the names of some profoundly incompetent people inscriptions: composer, arranger, orchestrator... I was interested, do you approve of this?
@@MrRbjunior83 actually, i didn't understand what do you want to hear.
He hires orchestrators. Maybe one should just write what they hear instead of what they think will impress someone else.
Hearing has the same meaning as thinking.
He writes all his own music. Nothing wrong with having an editor or soundboard around to make sure everything is as you intend it to be. Most composers or big name ones have these people and more working for them
@@AtomizedSound i agree with you. Hollywood composers collaborate or collaborated with orchestrators, such as Pope Conrad, Herbert Spencer, John Neufold and etc. I think this is because of the time restrictions, as they should finish the full score in 3 months including the recording sessions.
John Williams is one of the few who still does all his own orchestration.
Ok so I did a quick Google search which seems to confirm that all the music you hear in a score written "by John Williams" was in fact written by John Williams.
The process goes like this:
John Williams comes up with a musical idea. Then, he orchestrates everything, including dynamics, instrumentation, chord voicings, and any other musical detail. Everything is noted on a condensed score (6-8 lines), rather than the full orchestral scores that a conductor typically likes to use.
Then, the "orchestrator" gets Williams's sketch. All the details are already there; all the orchestrator has to do is copy them into an orchestral score where each instrument is on a different line.
It's basically the equivalent of me writing a book in sloppy handwriting, where paragraph breaks are marked with little symbols and common words are written in shorthand. Then, I give it to a typist to format everything neatly. All the artistry is mine; the typist just put it into the computer according to my design.
All Williams orchestrations are dull, and none of the best film melodies are by Williams. And good jazzmen use other composers.
I think he just well know the works by other composers and inspired from their main melodies. But it will be injustice to say "none of the best film melodies are by Williams.
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@@zzausel Yes!
zzausel, answer me this, why are most TH-cam videos about modern film music about the music of John Williams?
Star Wars is arguably the most iconic, most well-known film theme ever written. Or you can go with Jaws, or E.T., Superman, or Indiana Jones. I mean, once anyone hears any of those melodies, they know exactly what it is, exactly what movie it's from.
If you're of the younger generation, perhaps the Harry Potter/Hedwig's theme is more familiar.
Name me a melody, a musical theme, not a song with words, better known than those by John Williams.
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