It's not that they don't ever fail. It's that there are less possibilities for operational error or procedural failure. Let's count the semi-auto operational error possibilities. 1). Magazine release button accidentally pressed - dropped mag. 2). Out of battery. 3) FTF. 4). FTE. 5) Stove. pipe. How many could you have on a revolver?
I’ve been shooting revolvers for over 40 years and have had only one fail on me. It was a model 60 I sent to smith and Wesson, it came back looking like a brand new gun. That was in the early 80’s , what ever they did to it it’s still working just fine today. On the other had I lost count on the semi auto’s that have failed me. I’ll take my chances with a revolver any day.
I have the same gun and had the same problem with mine however that was back in 1971. Sent it back and they fixed it and never had a problem with it after that. Still carry it today!
I find it interesting that you replace a part on a used 60 plus year old gun and you keep talking about the reliability of a revolver. Anything mechanical is subject to failure especially when you alter it. That doesn't make revolvers less reliable than a semi auto. Your title should read "I failed it" not "It failed me". I like the content on your video's either way.
Appreciate it, brother! 👍🏻 After I oiled the internals and put it back together, it started working correctly. After a ton of working the action and dry firing, it seems to be working perfect. 🤷🏻♂️ I haven’t taken it to the range and test fired it yet, tho. We shall see, I guess. I’m definitely going to have it looked and well tested before I trust it.
I just got my hands on a mod60 that was my father's some 36 years ago. It's been stored and occasionally fired but never cleaned neither lubricated. I soaked it with WD 40 before taking the trigger apart for cleaning. I bet this is your problem. Dirt or dry grease in that watch mechanism. Your mod36 looks a lot dirtier than my mod60 when I opened it. Other than that, you're closest Smith and Wesson dealer will help.
Revolvers rarely malfunction, but when they do you’re out of the fight (I always carried a back up when we carried revolvers). When a semi auto has a failure you can usually fix it on the spot w/a tap, rack & bang.
I had almost the same issue with my s&w 642 (brand new) within the first 50 rounds. The cylinder would turn rotate but the internal hammer would reset. I took it apart and cleaned all the heavy oils the manufacture used on the parts. Used a mil spec oil and it worked. So far over 1000 rounds and no issues.
Seems like the reboung spring is not strong enough to full reset the hammer. The power of the trigger rebound spring and hammer spring need to be balanced and work well in a sweet spot. Also it seems to me to see a problem of the double Action sear return. Maybe his Little spring
A high quality revolver like yours will rarely have an issue if maintained and you only use correct ammo, but when something does go wrong it can generally not be quickly corrected in your moment of need.
This was very interesting and informative. I don't own any firearms myself, but am very interested and find them fascinating. I hope you get this sorted out in short order. It's a nice little gun. Just goes to show that revolvers are not indestructible like we're led to believe. They are unlikely to fail, but CAN fail.
I’ve owned a Glock 26 for almost 10 years… A little Hillbilly history - few years ago I actually traded a Glock 26 Gen4 for a 1976 S&W model 36 Chief’s Special. True story! Must admit, I do have a little regret because it was an original OD brown frame G26. Those are kinda hard to find nowadays… 🤷🏻
@@HillbillyNitroUSA How you responded to my comment so quickly is impressive. I am curios, did you get your chief special to function properly? i bought one 4 years ago and carry it every day and have had no problems. But as shown in your video, anything can malfunction.
You really don't know what the previous owner did to it. For all you know they may have flipped the cylinder closed multiple times and damaged the bolt (cylinder stop).
Well dat wuz definitely a nice vid, Hill Billy, an I do own 2 of deez gats 1 MOD 36 an a MOD 60,,,, both in square but J frame, an have NOT ran into any probs Thk God,,,,, but U got ta rmmbr deez thgs were built decades ago one ov mine was built inda mid 60's an da othr mid 70's so whu knoz how many pple have owned dem, an whu knoz how many ROUNDS had bin fired thru dem, NEwaze sorry bout my TEXAS (txts) an I hope U find out what went rong I'm sure it's jus sum parts dat got worn out an wasted "REPLACEMENT JOB", post it up nxtime, L8Rs H.B.
You only grease parts that have heavy contact and/or high temperature use. Oil is for contact and pivot points. If there is grease or dirt, failing is normal. Revolvers do fail...but user failed this revolver! If you don't take care or learn about your tools, you deserve that they fail on you...
@@HillbillyNitroUSA I'm saying that everything mechanical is designed with tolerances in mind. Every tolerance has a different lubricant that works. Grease inside a revolver may get it to fail as the force of the internal springs may be overcome by added effort and also parts may stick. Grease also retains more dirt, residue and stuff. So yes, unproper lubricant will get some systems to fail or wear faster... For example you will oil your AR15, but with your AK, you will oil the trigger and grease the slide. A M1 Garand is the same as an AK. Some videos explains this very well. I am an engineer in Switzerland, I have designed systems like parts for mechanical altimeters.
You'll be glad to know I found another possible major malfunction that can happen! :p So this weekend, I bought a model 10, police trade in that needed some love but clean. Second cylinder fired, the ejector rod unscrewed itself: the revolver was totally stuck! I had to use a rubber mallet to open the cylinder!
It's not that they don't ever fail. It's that there are less possibilities for operational error or procedural failure. Let's count the semi-auto operational error possibilities. 1). Magazine release button accidentally pressed - dropped mag. 2). Out of battery. 3) FTF. 4). FTE. 5) Stove. pipe. How many could you have on a revolver?
Every firearm requires upkeep and maintenance and yes even a revolver requires attention to be reliable.
I’ve been shooting revolvers for over 40 years and have had only one fail on me. It was a model 60 I sent to smith and Wesson, it came back looking like a brand new gun. That was in the early 80’s , what ever they did to it it’s still working just fine today. On the other had I lost count on the semi auto’s that have failed me. I’ll take my chances with a revolver any day.
I have the same gun and had the same problem with mine however that was back in 1971. Sent it back and they fixed it and never had a problem with it after that. Still carry it today!
What did they say was wrong
What did u replace on it that mught have been the problem
I find it interesting that you replace a part on a used 60 plus year old gun and you keep talking about the reliability of a revolver. Anything mechanical is subject to failure especially when you alter it. That doesn't make revolvers less reliable than a semi auto. Your title should read "I failed it" not "It failed me". I like the content on your video's either way.
Hello sir may ask did you solve the problem? what is the reason?
Need to send it back to S&W for a rebuild, my
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Thanks brother! I’m going to look into that. 👍🏻👊🏻
@@HillbillyNitroUSA did you send it in?
I won't blame the tool. It's most times human error or lack of inspecting when cleaning
Revolvers fail, but less often.
I hope you got it fixed.
Bummer, hope for the best in getting it fixed.
Appreciate it, brother! 👍🏻 After I oiled the internals and put it back together, it started working correctly. After a ton of working the action and dry firing, it seems to be working perfect. 🤷🏻♂️ I haven’t taken it to the range and test fired it yet, tho. We shall see, I guess. I’m definitely going to have it looked and well tested before I trust it.
My guess @ 3:00 is a failed rebound spring.
I just got my hands on a mod60 that was my father's some 36 years ago. It's been stored and occasionally fired but never cleaned neither lubricated. I soaked it with WD 40 before taking the trigger apart for cleaning. I bet this is your problem. Dirt or dry grease in that watch mechanism. Your mod36 looks a lot dirtier than my mod60 when I opened it. Other than that, you're closest Smith and Wesson dealer will help.
Thanks for the tip bro 😎 👍🏼
That’s a great piece you have and you take care of her.
@@HillbillyNitroUSA keep us informed. I hope you sort it out.
@@HillbillyNitroUSA every Smith and Wesson revolver is a piece of art.
I was told never to use WD-40 oil on guns moving parts
Revolvers rarely malfunction, but when they do you’re out of the fight (I always carried a back up when we carried revolvers). When a semi auto has a failure you can usually fix it on the spot w/a tap, rack & bang.
So what ever did you find that caused the malfunction in the model 36?
I had almost the same issue with my s&w 642 (brand new) within the first 50 rounds. The cylinder would turn rotate but the internal hammer would reset.
I took it apart and cleaned all the heavy oils the manufacture used on the parts. Used a mil spec oil and it worked. So far over 1000 rounds and no issues.
When I packed a mandated service revolver I also carried the off duty / backup just in case.
Nice! Thanks for sharing. What model did you carry?
@@HillbillyNitroUSA Used a shrouded Detective Special or a S&W 36 square bitt.
Seems like the reboung spring is not strong enough to full reset the hammer.
The power of the trigger rebound spring and hammer spring need to be balanced and work well in a sweet spot.
Also it seems to me to see a problem of the double Action sear return. Maybe his Little spring
A high quality revolver like yours will rarely have an issue if maintained and you only use correct ammo, but when something does go wrong it can generally not be quickly corrected in your moment of need.
looks like the trigger is not fully reset. There must be crud under the rear of the back of the trigger. That bottom is not resting on the stop.
This was very interesting and informative. I don't own any firearms myself, but am very interested and find them fascinating. I hope you get this sorted out in short order. It's a nice little gun. Just goes to show that revolvers are not indestructible like we're led to believe. They are unlikely to fail, but CAN fail.
I'd send it to S&W
How many thousands of rounds before this timing issue?
Bought used, but I don’t think it had thousands 😖. It’s fixed now.
Any update? There's a guy on You Tube 'Uncle Jim' seems to know alot about Smiths, he may be able to help you out.
Good thing you know about guns, looks. Like a spring problem on the cylinder stop
Enjoyed the video. If you get a local Smith to fix it; please try to record it. If not, an update video would be much appreciated. Thanks
Thanks brother! Yea, I was definitely planning on doing that. Appreciate the support! 👍🏻
I see this video was 3yrs. ago what was the problem I thought it was a spring issue
Very informative and well said many thanks
I had a S&W model 10 do a similar thing many years ago. Broken spring was the cause in my case.
You should find someone with a Glock 26 and offer them the 50year old model 36. It worked for the last guy.
I’ve owned a Glock 26 for almost 10 years…
A little Hillbilly history - few years ago I actually traded a Glock 26 Gen4 for a 1976 S&W model 36 Chief’s Special. True story! Must admit, I do have a little regret because it was an original OD brown frame G26. Those are kinda hard to find nowadays… 🤷🏻
@@HillbillyNitroUSA How you responded to my comment so quickly is impressive. I am curios, did you get your chief special to function properly? i bought one 4 years ago and carry it every day and have had no problems. But as shown in your video, anything can malfunction.
You really don't know what the previous owner did to it. For all you know they may have flipped the cylinder closed multiple times and damaged the bolt (cylinder stop).
Out of the meny m36s made once in awhile one is going to mess up not bad in my book good luck it can be fixed
I am a revolver guy, but revolvers are man made tools/instruments & nothing man made is infallible.
The drop saftey lever isnt there either
I am an expert but they need maintenance. This is you not knowing your gun. Its a super easy fix... spring placement.
The Smith & Wesson Model 36 is a great gun. Sounds like yours needs to be worked on. Crazy isn't it?
All machines are subject to failure, that's y you do preventative maintenance.
I’m sure some light stoning would fix that right away if it’s sticking right there. Probably a Burr is all it is
Possibly who ever owned it before you fired +P’s out of it.
Sping broke
Like Roll Royce. They do not fail you did not take care of the problem before you`re claim!
The guy new something was wrong with it, make hin pay part of money to fix it
Well dat wuz definitely a nice vid, Hill Billy, an I do own 2 of deez gats 1 MOD 36 an a MOD 60,,,, both in square but J frame, an have NOT ran into any probs Thk God,,,,, but U got ta rmmbr deez thgs were built decades ago one ov mine was built inda mid 60's an da othr mid 70's so whu knoz how many pple have owned dem, an whu knoz how many ROUNDS had bin fired thru dem, NEwaze sorry bout my TEXAS (txts) an I hope U find out what went rong I'm sure it's jus sum parts dat got worn out an wasted "REPLACEMENT JOB", post it up nxtime, L8Rs H.B.
That sucks i wish i knew what was wrong but i dont just call smith & wesson and send it in better to find out at the range than later.
Thanks brother, Luke! 👊🏻 It’s definitely going to be looked at by a competent gun smith and well tested before I trust it.
You only grease parts that have heavy contact and/or high temperature use. Oil is for contact and pivot points. If there is grease or dirt, failing is normal. Revolvers do fail...but user failed this revolver! If you don't take care or learn about your tools, you deserve that they fail on you...
So, you’re saying a little oil/grease makes S&W revolvers fail…?
@@HillbillyNitroUSA I'm saying that everything mechanical is designed with tolerances in mind. Every tolerance has a different lubricant that works. Grease inside a revolver may get it to fail as the force of the internal springs may be overcome by added effort and also parts may stick. Grease also retains more dirt, residue and stuff. So yes, unproper lubricant will get some systems to fail or wear faster... For example you will oil your AR15, but with your AK, you will oil the trigger and grease the slide. A M1 Garand is the same as an AK. Some videos explains this very well. I am an engineer in Switzerland, I have designed systems like parts for mechanical altimeters.
You'll be glad to know I found another possible major malfunction that can happen! :p So this weekend, I bought a model 10, police trade in that needed some love but clean. Second cylinder fired, the ejector rod unscrewed itself: the revolver was totally stuck! I had to use a rubber mallet to open the cylinder!
Not good. Glad you fixed it. Wonder if the striker rod was loose.
look at the grip frame! It`s lie!
much