Who would've guessed that a massive time save would come from someone simply asking "what exactly IS these 'items' we're supposed to not collect anyway?"
You know, one day there will be some psycho who tries to rupee slide all the way to the throne room of Zelda’s castle, and the only thing stopping a “fastest speed run” from being months long is probably the console overheating.
Fun fact: when someone tried to explain why the Any% run is so long, and explained how the two guards are as strong as the yellow barrier that goes up around Hyrule Castle, it did make me think "Could we rupee slide past the guards in front of the gate to get to Hyrule Castle earlier?" I hadn't actually considered the idea of Low%'ing directly *into* the final throne room, but...barring height requirements (Given the rupee slide requires Link to be touching ground as I understand.), that...might actually be viable to skip more things.
@@N12015 Yeah, initial testing on my end showed that you couldn't bring things across the fade out passages too, although for Low%, my next thought is using the Heart Container on the left screen (On the GCN map - the guy who asks you to donate a bunch of rupees) to Heart Container Slide through from there all the way through the gate.
@@bdhd2142 Ah, you mean for Map Glitch to prevent loading zones from triggering? It's possible, with the Master Sword and transforming into Wolf Link, I *think*, to trip Map Glitch in Hyrule Castle Town, but I've yet to pull it off myself. If I can do it in my most recent fun playthrough, I might try using the Heart Container to bypass the walls, and then try running into the Loading Zone of Hyrule Castle - though I don't know if it won't stop me anyways, because Map Glitch would still be on.
I know i’m late, but “rediscover” is right! As a kid when this game came out I remember goofing around and going through those ranch gates as wolf link. I thought it was common knowledge until now, which is really cool!!
Good ass video. This completely blows most informative speedrunning content out of the water and I can tell you had a great time making it. Praying for this to have 900x more views
The thrill I felt seeing this in my recommended-- Can't believe it's six months old and I haven't seen it. Regardless! Super exciting development, and to echo another commentor, who would've though the biggest timeskip would have come from actually defining "items", lol. Excellent commentary, keep up the good work :)
cool video! by pure chance i ran onto this video after checking the low% leaderboard and left wondering why was there a massive gap between the wr in lowest percent's vid and the current one
Did anybody thought about doing a low% lotad just to see how low the time can theoretically go? Without the city in the sky skip to keep it human possible
Getting the bomb bag the old way gives us a permanent bomb bag, whereas the new route from Iza gives us a temporary one that isn't counted in the total. So, it's the same number of items - bomb bag on one, UZR portal on the other.
In order to do that, we'd need to have a rupee or some item on that map. Unfortunately, there's nothing of the sort, so we can't even start a slide there.
@@anorakkisAs I understand, does this include considering the Piece of Heart in Hyrule Castle Town (The praying guy in the Lanayru)? You can pay for the piece of heart, and then...just not advance the dialogue once it gets idled?
@@ZT1ST It might be possible to get a pickup slide with that, but pickup slides can't go through loading zones - we'd need to start a pickup slide in North Castle Town in order to get through the barrier.
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Who would've guessed that a massive time save would come from someone simply asking "what exactly IS these 'items' we're supposed to not collect anyway?"
Not to mention "What if we grabbed the rupee at a different angle by spending more time setting up for it?"
You know, one day there will be some psycho who tries to rupee slide all the way to the throne room of Zelda’s castle, and the only thing stopping a “fastest speed run” from being months long is probably the console overheating.
Fun fact: when someone tried to explain why the Any% run is so long, and explained how the two guards are as strong as the yellow barrier that goes up around Hyrule Castle, it did make me think "Could we rupee slide past the guards in front of the gate to get to Hyrule Castle earlier?"
I hadn't actually considered the idea of Low%'ing directly *into* the final throne room, but...barring height requirements (Given the rupee slide requires Link to be touching ground as I understand.), that...might actually be viable to skip more things.
The answer is sadly no, because there's no rupee in that place.
@@N12015 Yeah, initial testing on my end showed that you couldn't bring things across the fade out passages too, although for Low%, my next thought is using the Heart Container on the left screen (On the GCN map - the guy who asks you to donate a bunch of rupees) to Heart Container Slide through from there all the way through the gate.
@@ZT1STthey could try doing storage in twighlight princess like they do storage in wind waker
@@bdhd2142 Ah, you mean for Map Glitch to prevent loading zones from triggering? It's possible, with the Master Sword and transforming into Wolf Link, I *think*, to trip Map Glitch in Hyrule Castle Town, but I've yet to pull it off myself. If I can do it in my most recent fun playthrough, I might try using the Heart Container to bypass the walls, and then try running into the Loading Zone of Hyrule Castle - though I don't know if it won't stop me anyways, because Map Glitch would still be on.
I know i’m late, but “rediscover” is right! As a kid when this game came out I remember goofing around and going through those ranch gates as wolf link. I thought it was common knowledge until now, which is really cool!!
Good ass video. This completely blows most informative speedrunning content out of the water and I can tell you had a great time making it. Praying for this to have 900x more views
@7:28; Now I'm imagining trying to pull the Low% Run, and then checking it for the randomness...and see it give you the 30 minutes slower version.
I still miss some of the cool tricks in the older runs
Thanks for the video dude, I knew about this speedrun from a few years ago and it's mindblowing to see it lose so many hours!
Wait, you have less than 500 subs?! This feels like the quality of a creator with a couple thousand, at *least*
The thrill I felt seeing this in my recommended-- Can't believe it's six months old and I haven't seen it. Regardless! Super exciting development, and to echo another commentor, who would've though the biggest timeskip would have come from actually defining "items", lol. Excellent commentary, keep up the good work :)
Is there a Low% TAS?
Because i would love to see that.
Great video! Definitely deserves more views
cool video! by pure chance i ran onto this video after checking the low% leaderboard and left wondering why was there a massive gap between the wr in lowest percent's vid and the current one
this video was awesome, I think hard to diggest from someone that has no knowledge of TP speedrunning, but I liked it a lot.
good job Ano! Super interesting
Thanks for the video!
Very enjoyable watch!
Did anybody thought about doing a low% lotad just to see how low the time can theoretically go? Without the city in the sky skip to keep it human possible
Insane that the time would fall that much! I thought it would never fall under 24hrs
Great video!
This kinda feels like a lowest percent video 🤔
great video!
I beat the game in 18:00 before, years ago, never thought it'd be close to a wr 🤣
the absolutely state of humanity
yeah, but isn't getting the bomb bag the same way as before 1 item less? Wouldn't it get the WR for that?
Getting the bomb bag the old way gives us a permanent bomb bag, whereas the new route from Iza gives us a temporary one that isn't counted in the total. So, it's the same number of items - bomb bag on one, UZR portal on the other.
midna flags are items :}
Not with the current definition stated by the mods of the tp discord as well as all the low% runners
@link1183 check the ruleset again - Midna flags are listed as collectibles; they do count.
@@anorakkis oh wait really? Completely forgot about that
lol
Good vid
how long would it take to rupee slide through the hyrule castle guard barrier
In order to do that, we'd need to have a rupee or some item on that map. Unfortunately, there's nothing of the sort, so we can't even start a slide there.
@@anorakkisAs I understand, does this include considering the Piece of Heart in Hyrule Castle Town (The praying guy in the Lanayru)? You can pay for the piece of heart, and then...just not advance the dialogue once it gets idled?
@@ZT1ST It might be possible to get a pickup slide with that, but pickup slides can't go through loading zones - we'd need to start a pickup slide in North Castle Town in order to get through the barrier.
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