How do I find x? Exponential equation with two different bases. Reddit precalculus r/Homworkhelp

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  • @bprpmathbasics
    @bprpmathbasics  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Can a rectangle have perimeter=1 and area=1?
    th-cam.com/video/-lTw4tRPRV4/w-d-xo.html

    • @rajatgiri9476
      @rajatgiri9476 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No,There are two solutions each involving either length or breadth be negative which is impossible

  • @daenerystargaryen
    @daenerystargaryen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3646

    I don't know why I'm watching this at 5AM since I'm a physicist doing PhD in neurophysics and computational neuroscience, but I thoroughly enjoyed this. 10/10. Younger generations are so lucky that they have someone like you explaining maths. Hopefully they'll know how to appreciate it and not waste their brains away on TikTok...

    • @scienceislove2014
      @scienceislove2014 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      Woah..sounds interesting.. can you elaborate like what things you study and tools you use?

    • @johnmarcusengreso8273
      @johnmarcusengreso8273 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

      Ill take it as a compliment mr neurophysics man
      Im a 10th grader that likes math

    • @J0EB0B555
      @J0EB0B555 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      I'm a physics major as well but haven't taken a math course in a while. He's really helpful for keeping all the concepts fresh in my brain.

    • @IskzenMisishuw
      @IskzenMisishuw 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yes brother true

    • @antonioruelas8902
      @antonioruelas8902 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Physics undergrad here, this man (and Organic Chemistry tutor) saved me during calc 2

  • @reesetit
    @reesetit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3105

    I'm just impressed how you write with two different colors in one hand.

    • @dddaaa6965
      @dddaaa6965 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Imagine now how sex

    • @loser1233
      @loser1233 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

      it's like using chopsticks

    • @yafmaverick
      @yafmaverick 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      You must be special

    • @viCuber
      @viCuber 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Lmao exactly the same I commented about two weeks ago

    • @kajalde3071
      @kajalde3071 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I'm impressed that you do that with two hands

  • @akifhossain5122
    @akifhossain5122 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +575

    I have a Zoology exam tomorrow. It's 3am. 10/10

    • @ominious7082
      @ominious7082 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Yo how did it go? 😂

    • @utkarshjain861
      @utkarshjain861 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      So, how did it went?

    • @tobedecided8886
      @tobedecided8886 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's been 4 months. So, how did it go ?

    • @u0_ou-k
      @u0_ou-k 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      ​@@tobedecided8886bro never been seen again after the exam 💀

    • @AbhigyaPal.9933
      @AbhigyaPal.9933 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​@@u0_ou-khe died after that

  • @Stickman_Productions
    @Stickman_Productions 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +254

    3:23 i got jumpscared by that 😭😭

    • @masterkj0912
      @masterkj0912 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Same I saw your comment just before it happened as well😅

  • @MC-qm5jn
    @MC-qm5jn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +653

    i took precalc 4 years ago and was arbitrarily recommended this video yet I still feel compelled to do the homework this man has given

    • @xxxBradTxxx
      @xxxBradTxxx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I took it 15 years ago and I still watch these videos because it feels like a waste of effort to learn all of that an forget it. 🤷‍♂️

  • @Dr.Insomniac.007
    @Dr.Insomniac.007 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    So I'm a 3rd year medical student watching this video and I dearly enjoyed it. Its like going down the memory lane. Really smooth teaching. Kudos to you..❤

    • @kaideng2571
      @kaideng2571 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hope the clerkship is treating you well.

    • @Dr.Insomniac.007
      @Dr.Insomniac.007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kaideng2571 yup, thanks. Have a good day.🫂

  • @keroro407
    @keroro407 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2009

    "How to find X?"
    Bro, it's time to move on. Your X doesn't care about you anymore.

    • @bprpmathbasics
      @bprpmathbasics  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1230

      y?

    • @TheOnlineTurtle
      @TheOnlineTurtle 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +145

      @@bprpmathbasics😂 thats good

    • @r0N1n_SD
      @r0N1n_SD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      Lol. Bro got owned by Math😂

    • @stalincomrade1867
      @stalincomrade1867 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +114

      Don't you z how pointless it is?

    • @Taokyle
      @Taokyle 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      lol

  • @Gamert80
    @Gamert80 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2286

    I'm in 10th grade, so whenever he says "let's use this rule" I'm just like "uh huh"
    Edit: it's crazy how different some curriculums are in other countries.

    • @Musterkartoffel
      @Musterkartoffel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +180

      We learned the logarithm in 10th grade😅 (Germany)

    • @AutoFun_
      @AutoFun_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Why are u here?

    • @Gamert80
      @Gamert80 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +291

      I enjoy watching advanced math, even if I don't understand it fully.

    • @Gamert80
      @Gamert80 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

      @@Musterkartoffel I'm only half way through the year so I may learn it soon.

    • @aaryan8104
      @aaryan8104 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      SAME FROM INDIA BTW

  • @jordananderson2728
    @jordananderson2728 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +524

    To expand it, you use change of base to get log(96)/log(2/3). When dividing a logarithm, of course, you subtract the log of the denominator from the log of the numerator, which gives log(96)/(log2-log3). We can take the prime factors of 96: 3 and 2⁵, to get log(3•2⁵)/(log2-log3). With multiplication of logarithms, you add the logs of the multiplicands, so (log3 + log(2⁵))/(log2-log3). Finally, with exponentiation, you multiply the logarithm of the base by the exponent, which gives (log3 + 5log2)/(log2-log3).

    • @jordananderson2728
      @jordananderson2728 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      I should have used ln rather than log, but I'm so used to using log for change of base that I just did that by default. It works the same either way (:

    • @GreggRomaine
      @GreggRomaine 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Nicely done, thanks for doing my homework!

    • @paratoxicalcapybara3939
      @paratoxicalcapybara3939 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you can just use laws off exponents bcuz that seems easier. then you log it at the end for answer
      turn 2^(x-5) into 2^x*2^-5 and turn 3^(x+1) into 3^x*3. an example of this is (3^2)*(3^2)=3^4
      expand into 1/32(2^x)=3(3^x)
      do some division to isolate x as much as possible. 3/(1/32) = 96 or (1/32) = 1/96. End up with 2^x=96(3^x) or 1/96(2^x)=3^x
      x root everything. 2=xroot(96)*3 or xroot(1/96)*2=3
      more division to isolate x. 2/3=xroot(96) or 3/2=xroot(1/96)
      put everything to the x power. (2/3)^x=96 or (3/2)^x=1/96
      now log bcuz inverse of exponential to finnaly actually isolate x. log(base(2/3)) of 96 = x or log(base(3/2)) of 1/96 = x
      x= ~-11.25

    • @Kasakuja
      @Kasakuja 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      well, how do you get from
      log(96)
      ----
      log(2/3)
      to
      ln(96)
      ---
      ln(2/3)
      ?

    • @TheWatch1
      @TheWatch1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Log(96)/Log(e) is ln 96. Divide by log e in Nr and Dr

  • @ThisCreature
    @ThisCreature 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +169

    Since when did i watch math for entertainment tf

    • @Blrta
      @Blrta 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol fr 😂

    • @collinjoseph615
      @collinjoseph615 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same lol

    • @wrya141
      @wrya141 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol

    • @realGBx64
      @realGBx64 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For me, since 3brown1blue.

    • @muhammetaydogmus4404
      @muhammetaydogmus4404 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Math is fun. Schools aren't

  • @brown_bread_
    @brown_bread_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I gave up on maths nearly 7 years ago in school. In my post graduation i watch this and feel my antipathy towards the subject reduce a little. Thanks

  • @WilliamCacilhas
    @WilliamCacilhas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    7:18 this entirely depends on the calculator. I have one that has an ln key, a log key, & a key for log of any base. It’s a Casio fx-991 ES PLUS C for anyone wondering. It’s not programmable so it most likely will be allowed during test.

  • @oreivankovic7318
    @oreivankovic7318 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

    bro fumbels my brain and proceedes to say:"but, here is a prettier way to do it"

    • @CST1992
      @CST1992 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      C'mon dude, if you know the rules of log this is a pretty simple problem.

    • @frostcrackle2374
      @frostcrackle2374 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So maybe they don't know logarithm rules yet. C'mon dude if you can calculate a Hohmann Transfer, this is a pretty simple problem. ​@@CST1992

    • @celoreads
      @celoreads 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@CST1992 if we know the rules of log we wouldnt be here for an explanation now would we? lmfao

    • @CST1992
      @CST1992 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@celoreads you don't know what log is but you are on a calculus video? Go back to high school... "lmfao"

    • @abcdqwerty3562
      @abcdqwerty3562 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@CST1992Do you not realise that the title of the video literally says precalculus?

  • @shrekyboi4776
    @shrekyboi4776 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +211

    I solved it slightly different. I recognized that 3^(x+1) can be rewritten as [(1.5)(2)]^(x+1), which can be expanded as 1.5^(x+1) 2^(x+1). This is very helpful as it gives us an exponential of base 2 on both sides of the equation, which allows us to cancel out the x on the left side through exponent division rule. The full solution is below:
    2^(x-5) = 3^(x+1)
    2^(x-5) = [(1.5)(2)]^(x+1)
    2^(x-5) = 1.5^(x+1) 2^(x+1)
    2^(x-5)/2^(x+1) = 1.5^(x+1)
    2^(-6) = 1.5^(x+1)
    Now we only have a single x variable to deal with, so we could simply apply log to both sides and isolate for x
    log[2^(-6)] = log[1.5^(x+1)]
    (log[2^(-6)]/log[1.5]) - 1 = x
    -11.257 = x

    • @user-lb3ex6yh9u
      @user-lb3ex6yh9u 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Well done

    • @praneel1059
      @praneel1059 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      when i saw the thumbnail i guessed that since 2^(x-5) = 3^(x+5)
      we can do something like 2^(x-5) . 1/ 3^(x+5)
      then 2^(x-5) x (3^(x+5)) ^(-1)
      and go on i guess . Btw im in ninth grade so i have no clue about what ln is

    • @hridayjr6580
      @hridayjr6580 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nice is the antilog required or this is it.

    • @scorpio9711
      @scorpio9711 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ln is called natural log, where the base is 'e' which is called eular constant. BTW which country do you belong to

    • @kashi2928
      @kashi2928 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I got that too, thanks for making me feel like I wasn't alone 😂

  • @lucsas9277
    @lucsas9277 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +142

    the second option is always what comes to my mind first, i find it way easier and more intuitive, but ive forced myself doing the natural base method too cuz you have to know them both imo

    • @riccardodellorto4267
      @riccardodellorto4267 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I do the complete opposite: whenever I see an x as an exponent, I use ln, because the calculator can eventually solve any monstrosity I type in as long as there are numbers 😂
      Bringing down the x is my number one priority 🫡

  • @sachinjain5367
    @sachinjain5367 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    I Just Saw the Thumbnail And Thought " Ehhhh That looks Ez Lets Just Do It " Only to waste 30 mins And Find Out It Have Logarithm Which I Havent Studied😂

    • @AlkaJha-jn6jk
      @AlkaJha-jn6jk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In which grade do you study now?

    • @sachinjain5367
      @sachinjain5367 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AlkaJha-jn6jk 11th

    • @soumyadeepdas8753
      @soumyadeepdas8753 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I study in 7th grade and I know logarithm

    • @AlkaJha-jn6jk
      @AlkaJha-jn6jk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@soumyadeepdas8753 means you are in icse no?

    • @daniellerosalie2155
      @daniellerosalie2155 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@soumyadeepdas8753If you are taking pre-calculus in 7th grade, you are years ahead of the norm.

  • @CuriousCyclist
    @CuriousCyclist 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Much appreciated. ❤

  • @sidhaarthnair8368
    @sidhaarthnair8368 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I wasn't taught log at school at all. I had to look it up online. Even though we hadn't had proper knowledge about log we still have to use in calculus

    • @Roro-ej7ke
      @Roro-ej7ke 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol same💀

  • @zuhakhalid4900
    @zuhakhalid4900 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    That was a really good explanation! Thank you for explaining so clearly! 👏

  • @yakuni4420
    @yakuni4420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    TH-cam’s algorithm is getting scarier, I’m a highschooler and was literally on a problem just like this just two days ago thank you!

  • @Sayan_0-0_
    @Sayan_0-0_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It’s 4:20 am right now and I have no idea why I’m watching this at this time. I told mom to call me at 8 and wake me up. I guess now I have a solid reason to tell her why i was awake.

  • @fauzanamar
    @fauzanamar วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I used to be able to do this perfectly without any struggle, now i can only remember math up until the 9th grade

  • @bprpmathbasics
    @bprpmathbasics  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

    Try this next: 2^x=5^(x+2)
    Answer here: th-cam.com/video/WL-npSEyVTo/w-d-xo.html

    • @imabiggoofy
      @imabiggoofy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      bro really out here assigning hw 💀
      (I'm in 8th grade, i dont know shit)

    • @FloraLemonYT
      @FloraLemonYT 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I actually learned this last unit.
      2^x=5^(x+2)
      xln2=xln5+2ln5
      xln2-xln5=2ln5
      factor out x
      x(ln2-ln5)=2ln5
      x=2ln5/(ln2-ln5)
      I’m not sure if there’s a better way to simplify it

    • @IamFlaem1
      @IamFlaem1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      x=log2/5(25)

    • @Neet_mbbs.0907
      @Neet_mbbs.0907 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@FloraLemonYTThat's correct! 👍

    • @vandernight1220
      @vandernight1220 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean:
      (X-5)log2 = (x+1)log3 … -> x = (5log2 - log3)/(log2 - log3) is just way less complicated than the methods shown, at least this is the standard method in uk

  • @mrtoast244
    @mrtoast244 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m thinking of going for my masters in robotics in like two years, this might come in handy

  • @Dracogame
    @Dracogame 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used to go through this stuff so easily but nowdays I forgot completely how to do it. Makes me want to study this stuff again on spare time.

  • @lukaskamin755
    @lukaskamin755 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    you can do backwords in 6:00 ONLY IF a and b are both positive (theoretically a can be 0 , but it's a disputable question)

    • @amanda-we9fv
      @amanda-we9fv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      что?

    • @lukaskamin755
      @lukaskamin755 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@amanda-we9fv now it's correct. I mean you can't do backwards if a and b are both negative ,roots of a and b won't be defined then, while root of ab will be defined

    • @arcturusgd
      @arcturusgd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In this case it is.
      If it is positive that means a,b ∈ N

  • @livia4838
    @livia4838 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I saw this passed by my fyp and it struck me 2 ideas on hoa to solve it, i knew the first few steps for both methods but got stuck! Thanks

  • @ridoing9969
    @ridoing9969 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    The professor when ever I start copying the notes. 3:34

    • @stolenmonkey7477
      @stolenmonkey7477 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That made me laugh a bit lol

    • @My-yy8gz
      @My-yy8gz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😄

  • @thedogwbigheaded
    @thedogwbigheaded 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I graduated from highschool this year. And I'm really glad rn because i understand what exactly he said. This is crazy for me dude

  • @nicholasscott3287
    @nicholasscott3287 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    Immediate reaction is "x is not positive integer, because 2 and 3 are prime, so the prime factorisation of 2^i will never equal that of 3^j, where i and j are any positive integer".

    • @tobybartels8426
      @tobybartels8426 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      This also works for negative integers, even for non-zero rational numbers. So the only possible rational solution would be if both exponents are zero (at the same time, which is not possible in this case).

    • @deltalima6703
      @deltalima6703 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You never know if x is a quaternion or is mod |p| or whatever in these dumb questions.

    • @General12th
      @General12th 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@deltalima6703This is an algebra channel, not a calculus or analysis channel, so don't overthink it.

    • @jackposiedonforever7774
      @jackposiedonforever7774 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Correct

  • @jameshy69
    @jameshy69 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    australian here, i used my calculator. ive only seen the thumbnail and came straight here. the answer i got was (-ln(96))/ln(3/2) or approximately-11.257
    edit: finished the video now and checked those two values of x. both were equal to my above answer. very nice 👍

    • @salmanahmed5481
      @salmanahmed5481 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I just do log on both side and got the same answer x = -11.25

  • @Shiva-xp4wv
    @Shiva-xp4wv 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    Bro i am a Engineering major why did i click on this video

    • @actionj761
      @actionj761 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same thing im like do i really have nothing better to do than to glance at my freshman year history 😂😂

    • @yessubharv1400
      @yessubharv1400 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Might be 2 reason..
      1. To confirm ur solution thought process
      2. Ur too dumb to be an Engineer.

    • @npx_riff_lift-g
      @npx_riff_lift-g 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      CS major procrastinating on studying for my algorithms midterm✋🏼😔

  • @E_velynn
    @E_velynn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i somehow went through algebra I and II, precalc, calc I and II, yet never saw any of this and now i feel like i was robbed. this looks so interesting and i am now lamenting never having had a math teacher that makes math interesting. thanks, random math guy on the internet!

    • @Roro-ej7ke
      @Roro-ej7ke 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same story🤷‍♀️

  • @imran_sholeh
    @imran_sholeh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I have a question sir. Why we need to use ln instead of log, or we can use which?

    • @sonvisharma5264
      @sonvisharma5264 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi...we can use log in 1st method instead of ln ...i used log and the ans is same, u just need to know values of log2 and log3

    • @imran_sholeh
      @imran_sholeh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sonvisharma5264 i see.... Thank you

  • @prelude8975
    @prelude8975 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm an international relations major and somehow watched this whole video and nodded everytime he looked at me as if im getting everything he says

  • @vogel-mc5ed
    @vogel-mc5ed 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's really simple to solve the question. Just follow these steps:
    1) change it to logarithm form
    2) oh shit whats next?
    3) cry
    4) think about the purpose of maths later on in life
    5) copy that one smart guy answers
    And voila, you solved the question

  • @ankitbhadra4105
    @ankitbhadra4105 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    to think that I knew all those formulas you used and wrote on right side but still I didn't knew how putting them together will get me the answer. Thanks a lot. Any advice on how I can solve this thing of not knowing when to put and which things together to solve questions like this ?

  • @sahhanaaa
    @sahhanaaa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    guys we can solve it in another way too.
    what i did was this:
    i took log on both lhs and rhs. so the exponent comes down and the equation becomes like such
    (x-5)log 2=(x+1) log 3
    now we know log 2= 0.3010 and log 3=0.477 so we just use those values in the equation
    (x-5)*0.3010=(x+1)*0.477
    0.3010x-1.505=0.477x+0.477
    this becomes
    -0.176x=1.982
    x=1.982/-0.176
    x=-11.26

    • @CursiveThoughts
      @CursiveThoughts 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was not log tho. It's was ln.

    • @sahhanaaa
      @sahhanaaa 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CursiveThoughts works w log too

    • @Gaysandthechaos
      @Gaysandthechaos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@CursiveThoughtsyeah you'd have to multiply it with 2.303 to convert ln to log
      That'd be easier ig

    • @CursiveThoughts
      @CursiveThoughts 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Gaysandthechaos yes

    • @nothingbutpain863
      @nothingbutpain863 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@CursiveThoughts, in this scenario, either 'ln' or 'log' is acceptable. This is because the bases of logarithms would get cancelled in the process as long as the bases are the same.

  • @im_b_ran
    @im_b_ran 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a communications student in university who hasn't learned maths in over 4 years, this video has enlightened me

  • @notrishy
    @notrishy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Very first approach of solving exponential equations is using logarithms.

  • @advaith2977
    @advaith2977 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just wanted to ask whether we can take ln3/ln2 = ln 1 = 0 and then solve for x with 2 cases giving x=5 and x=-1 (or ln2/ln3=-ln1=-0=0)

  • @garrettbates2639
    @garrettbates2639 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Equivalent answer with slightly less distribution:
    2^(x - 5) = 3^(x + 1)
    (x - 5) ln 2 = (x + 1) ln 3
    x - 5 = (x + 1) log2(3)
    x - 5 = x log2(3) + log2(3)
    x - x log2(3) = 5 + log2(3)
    x = (5 + log2(3)) / (1 - log2(3))

    • @TheEulerID
      @TheEulerID 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The same way I did it, but nobody ever seems to approve of logs in bases other than e or 10 for the "official" answers, even though the end result can look simpler. Maybe it dates back to the days of log books which almost always limited themselves to natural and base 10 logs.

  • @ayushkushwaha550
    @ayushkushwaha550 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    0:45 the quicker method after this step would be to divide x-5 by x+1, which would be equal to ln3/ln2. Now use componendo dividendo on both sides :)

  • @DA-gs4gu
    @DA-gs4gu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I would consider simplify it with log to the base 10 which yields the same answer as the answer you obtained.
    We could write it as,
    X-5log(2)=X+1log(3)
    Which on further simplification can provide,
    x= -6.58/0.58= -11.3
    And the answer you obtained at the end,
    log (base)2/3 (96)= -11.26 (approx)
    I feel its less hectic

  • @heyyythereitsjulie
    @heyyythereitsjulie 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In the first example, could you have used log instead of ln? When to use log vs ln?

    • @nothingbutpain863
      @nothingbutpain863 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In this scenario, there is not difference. The only situation requiring 'ln' is when the base of an index is 'e'.

    • @nothingbutpain863
      @nothingbutpain863 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, ln(x) is equivalent to log(e, x).

  • @bprpmathbasics
    @bprpmathbasics  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    This problem deceived me so hard, am I stupid? Factoring & quadratic formula, Reddit r/Homeworkhelp
    th-cam.com/video/jCIfoKaHBX4/w-d-xo.html

    • @NateDaGreaty
      @NateDaGreaty 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have a question, is 0.99 repeating = 1? Im not sure since 1/3=0.333 repeating, that means 3/3 = 0.99 repeating which is also 1.

    • @kyloren3587
      @kyloren3587 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@NateDaGreatyYou should double check just to make sure, but I think ya, people do count it as 1 instead

    • @NateDaGreaty
      @NateDaGreaty 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kyloren3587 but 0.99 repeating isnt = to 1, im not asking what people say, im curious if it is right, which idk as my previous reason was stated, only 1 is = it 1

    • @kyloren3587
      @kyloren3587 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NateDaGreaty yes but 0.9 repeating is so close to one as a number that it might as well be it. Unless there is some kind of real world application that requires us to be infinitely accurate, which as of now isn't even known to exist as a thing

    • @NateDaGreaty
      @NateDaGreaty 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kyloren3587 Its so close but it isnt... Im not asking in real world im asking in math, 0.99 repeating is not equal to one, however 1/3 is 0.33, so forth to get 0.9999 (3/3) which also = 1, that why i confused, is 3/3 0.99 repeating or 1

  • @christopher8504
    @christopher8504 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another way to do it like the first method that isn't exactly any faster but came to me is:
    once we have (x - 5) ln(2) = (x + 1) ln(3), (eq. 1) we can build
    h(x)=(x - 5)/(x + 1) = ln(3)/ln(2), (eq. 2) which will have the same solution despite the domain changing a bit, since the solution isn't near -1.
    and separate that into two equations:
    f(x₁)=(x₁ - 5) = ln(3)
    g(x₂)=(x₂ + 1) = ln(2)
    so solution x (to h) will be formed by solutions x₁/x₂ to f,g respectively.
    Which, is a linear system.
    now we can produce a matrix:
    [[1, -5, ln(3)],
    [1, 1, ln(2)]]
    which we partially row reduce to
    [[6, 0, 5ln(2) + ln(3)],
    [0, 6, ln(2) - ln(3)]]
    recombining, since solution to h is solution to f over solution to g, the 6's cancel and we have:
    x = (5ln(2) + ln(3))/(ln(2) - ln(3))
    which is also the solution for eq.1
    I know written out this seems long, but it went a lot faster in my head. A lot of the steps here would be incorrect if I didn't explain them carefully. Also it would probably take longer to row reduce than just doing the algebra but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    let me know if I did anything illegal math manipulations

    • @argonwheatbelly637
      @argonwheatbelly637 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like it. 😊 It reminds me of when I use Synthetic Division to blitz through some polynomial division by hand.

  • @siddheshvispute17
    @siddheshvispute17 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Actually the equation becomes easy, when you use log in exponential problems.
    Thanks ❤🇮🇳

    • @slulzspot7583
      @slulzspot7583 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      मुझे भी equation देख के वही लगा।

  • @typothetical
    @typothetical 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When do you know when to use ln and when do you know when to use log?

  • @bprpmathbasics
    @bprpmathbasics  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    Here's a video with 10 examples of solving exponential equations, from basic to hard!: th-cam.com/video/K8CQbSD9wis/w-d-xo.html

    • @thepiglin100
      @thepiglin100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanksss

  • @matix2gorski984
    @matix2gorski984 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    (⅔)^x=96
    xln(⅔)=ln96
    xln(2*⅓)=ln(3*32)
    x(ln2-ln3)=ln3+5ln2
    x=(ln3+5ln2)/(ln2-ln3)

  • @joshuakohlmeyer7123
    @joshuakohlmeyer7123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The way he flips between pens is 🔥

  • @Matthew-px4vu
    @Matthew-px4vu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I solved it in a similar way somewhat. Started with taking the natural log but instead grouped terms like:
    (x-5)/(x+1)=ln3/ln2
    (x+1-6)/(x+1) = ln3/ln2
    1-6/(x+1)=ln3/ln2
    (x+1)=-6/(ln3/ln2-1)
    x=-6/(ln3/ln2-1)-1
    x~=-11.257

  • @CMT_Crabbles
    @CMT_Crabbles 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After taking Calculus, it’s more scary seeing actual numbers!
    I swear all middle school maths just falls out of your head

  • @markosverdhi
    @markosverdhi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    My friends in my old algebra class had a funny way of remembering the ln(x^2)=2lnx theorem. We called it the yeet theorem because you take the exponent and yeet that shit to the front

  • @yujj8
    @yujj8 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was thinking of replacing the 3 with 2^log(2,3)
    -> 2^(x-5) = 2^[log(2,3)×(x+1)]
    -> x - 5 = log(2,3) × (x+1)
    -> solve for x
    Is it valid?

  • @MCFC-OK-
    @MCFC-OK- 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    oh my fricking god how many whiteboard pen boxes do you have😂

  • @haku7335
    @haku7335 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watching a guy do math without any mistakes is so entertaining bro.

  • @masnun_07
    @masnun_07 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm studying medicine. Idk why im here. 😂 but i enjoyed your content.

  • @AndersRisager
    @AndersRisager 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At which grade would this be taught in your country?

  • @Patrik6920
    @Patrik6920 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    side note: ln(3) + 5ln(2) = ln(3 * 2⁵) = ln(96)

  • @canfriendly34
    @canfriendly34 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I usually find X after W before Y🤭

    • @deltalima6703
      @deltalima6703 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Probably behind a space somewhere on a sign or a rocket or whatever.

  • @alexlu8178
    @alexlu8178 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    second method is very good that an algebra 2 students could solve it

  • @madhurmurkiya9067
    @madhurmurkiya9067 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Dont know why its irritating to see multiplying/dividing both sides and cancelling the terms instead of taking that term to the opposite side and cancelling terms🤡

    • @OsamaBeenBallin_911
      @OsamaBeenBallin_911 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Gore log hai bhai
      Ham Desi log ko solve krte dekhenge behosh pad jaenge
      😂😂

  • @Vasilis_Sky
    @Vasilis_Sky 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video, you explain everything so smoothly!!

  • @atharvasingh9579
    @atharvasingh9579 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    how about taking log on both sides the use the values of log2 and log3 that is 0.3 and 0.47

    • @ookjannesplanting1296
      @ookjannesplanting1296 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Challenge here is to find an answer algebraically/exactly, so without a calculator

  • @liamw.7937
    @liamw.7937 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    >plot both functions
    >see where they intersect
    >eyeball the approximate solution to one decimal place
    >call it a day and get a beer

  • @rutamupadhye1828
    @rutamupadhye1828 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We can also take log and rearrange the terms and then do divedendo.

  • @jamessorrel
    @jamessorrel 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for this review. I'm not even in school, but it was fun to watch

  • @impastar5066
    @impastar5066 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you explained it so well and i could feel your excitement in solving for x

  • @theallmightycabbage
    @theallmightycabbage 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am still mesmerised by how smoothly he switches pens

  • @dairoku2017
    @dairoku2017 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been thinking
    (x-5)log2=(x+1)log3
    (x-5)=(x+1)(log3/log2)
    (x-5)=(x+1)(1.585)
    (x-5)=1.585x+1.585
    Gonna shortcut over here
    -0.585x=6.585
    X= -11.257
    Is this correct?

    • @Kotaallen-qg7zr
      @Kotaallen-qg7zr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, I also solved it like this Easiest way to solve this problem by log base 10 not natural log

  • @TheLobsterCopter5000
    @TheLobsterCopter5000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm not sure which form of the result I prefer. The first form uses ln rather than a logarithm with an awkward base, but the second one looks neater.

  • @daniellerosalie2155
    @daniellerosalie2155 หลายเดือนก่อน

    X= ln3+5ln2/(ln2-ln3)
    This is the way I did it. I like how you put the "*" for multiplying but were in the realization of not wanting to be redundant so erased it. Merry Christmas.

  • @kidnamedsolid3547
    @kidnamedsolid3547 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Am I the only one who absolutely loves logs. It’s not that I find them really easy or anything, they’re just so awesome.

  • @EC4U2C_Studioz
    @EC4U2C_Studioz หลายเดือนก่อน

    I prefer the method where you just use the appropriate log base from the start which leaves whatever is in the exponent.

  • @KrytenKoro
    @KrytenKoro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    also worth pointing out that the log basic equations can be applied to the first answer to get the second answer

  • @thomasjacobsen8277
    @thomasjacobsen8277 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a student going into my sophomore year next year I am quite happy that I understood all of this!

  • @artrisk1304
    @artrisk1304 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I don't understand. If we just take log with base 10 to begin with. Won't we reach the same result?

  • @Christopher-vw5ju
    @Christopher-vw5ju 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Could you please make a video on how to find values with decimal exponents
    Example) (15) ^1.4

  • @JustMe-pd8zm
    @JustMe-pd8zm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Even cooler is the fact that if you simplify the first answer they would be the same(I don't know if I'm right to be honest but iirc then that's cool)
    For example the numerator (ln 3 + 5 ln 2) can be rewritten as:
    ln 3 + ln 2⁵ or ln 3 +ln 32
    Which is equal to ln (3•32) or ln 96
    And the denominator can be rewritten as ln (2/3). Which means the equation can be written as [ ln 96/ln (2/3)] which is just equal to the second answer log base 2/3 of 96!

  • @ain_li_shem_mekory
    @ain_li_shem_mekory 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is very brilliant!

  • @shinoasada4590
    @shinoasada4590 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @ 2:35 what did you do, why cancel xln3 and 5ln2, what is the reason for it?

    • @shinoasada4590
      @shinoasada4590 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why did you not multiply the 32 on 2^x and 3^x

  • @MidoriMae
    @MidoriMae 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I once decided i wasnt gonna go to uni after doing engineering math with intergration and differentiation. I did finish my diploma but pursued the arts afterwards. Looking at this video makes me want to reconsider the sciences which has always been my true interest. My understanding was always rock solid but the math always killed me since im bad at memorising and no teacher was good enough at explaing to a functional degree. If only i saw your videos back then.. things might be different now.

  • @belaitedwaif2212
    @belaitedwaif2212 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can solve this a lot quicker by just splitting up the exponents into 2^x, 2^-5, 3^x, and 3. Then isolating x is a matter of factoring it out of 3^x/2^x. Then you get log(1/(3*2^5)) with a logBASE of 3/2. The answer is -11.26

  • @anomalytm05
    @anomalytm05 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait, log10's also okay to use for this, right?

  • @nguyenhuuhiep1505
    @nguyenhuuhiep1505 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks you so much
    I have been struggle for the exact same question for a long time and now a week before my test I randomly see this video ❤

  • @mogenasuncion
    @mogenasuncion 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    does this still work with doing logs of both sides instead of ln?

  • @JohnBerry-q1h
    @JohnBerry-q1h 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    _no! no! no! no!_ NO…
    Instead, back at 1:22 , divide both sides by ln3 .
    This will create the term (ln2/ln3) on the left side of the '=' sign.
    Note that (ln2/ln3) = 0.630930 . We then will have...
    0.630930( x - 5 ) = ( x + 1 )
    0.630930x - 3.154650 = x + 1
    ...subtracting 0.630930x from both sides yields...
    -3.154650 = x - 0.630930x + 1
    ...subtracting 1 from both sides yields...
    -3.154650 - 1 = x - 0.630930x
    -4.154650 = 0.36907x
    ...swapping sides yields...
    0.369070x = -4.154650
    ...solving for x yields...
    x = ( -4.154650/0.369070 )
    *x = -11.257079*

  • @mr_pc-sco197
    @mr_pc-sco197 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watching this as a gcse student in the uk knowing this won’t come up in my exams but this was thoroughly interesting

  • @akchharasinghchauhan4525
    @akchharasinghchauhan4525 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a doubt!
    At the step (x-5)ln2=(x+1)ln3
    Can't we Directly substitute the value of log 2 and log 3 in the eqn?

  • @JohnDoe-zn6fd
    @JohnDoe-zn6fd หลายเดือนก่อน

    why use natural log in one way, and just log 2/3 in the other?

  • @doctorno1626
    @doctorno1626 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let y=Cosx +(-1)^0.5 Sinx
    Can you integrate (ex)^y w.r.t x? (e=2.71)

  • @adamajinugroho830
    @adamajinugroho830 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can i use log instead?

  • @TheEulerID
    @TheEulerID 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have (5+log2(3))/(1-log2(3)) which I think produces the same value. There seems to be an allergy to using logs in bases other than e or 10 in official answers.

  • @epikbaconb9780
    @epikbaconb9780 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is probably gonna be useful in the future so thanks

  • @souptikdam8424
    @souptikdam8424 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only way to watch these videos without pulling my hair out is watching st 2x speed

  • @Godstark999
    @Godstark999 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey , mb i didn't understand so much but What's the difference between *log* and *ln* ??

  • @Honeybadger1293
    @Honeybadger1293 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why not use log base 2 or 3?