As a female, I'm in NO WAY defending sexual predatory behavior and assault, but we should also remember that not EVERY woman crying sexual misconduct or rape is telling the truth.
KLM Hooked Moore A toxic environment at work is created for a woman when she has sex with anyone at work and if it doesn't work out and then that person moves on to the next victim. She will be embarrassed and that's toxic then she will either suffer or quit because she's hurt. Any man that truly cares about a woman would never do that to her at work. Only a sexual predator would be so cruel to women. That makes Tavis a sexual predator creating a toxic environment for the women he uses. Especially since Tavis is so concerned about women's issues and he's so emotional, Lol. Tavis really talks some smooth BS if you don't care about women at work. Tavis is just PUA simp predator.
Jeff Berlin....It's as though you're saying that every sexual encounter has a man as hunter/woman as prey dynamic. It takes two to tango and it's not always the man that initiates. If a sexual encounter doesn't lead to a long term relationship, how on earth does that automatically make the woman a victim? If she's somehow embarrassed afterwards, because of a decision SHE made, how does that automatically make the man a predator? Is it a mistake to have sex with a co-worker? A majority of the time, absolutely. However, it's a mistake that involves 2 adults who each have to live with whatever the consequences are for the decision he or she made.
KLM Hooked Moore Not yours, that comment was meant for Jeff Berlin. I mistakenly erased his name from the front of the comment. I'll fix that now. Sorry bout that. It's is a relevant comment, I promise. I happen to agree with everything you said.
Don't know this guy Smiley, but I have to say: An investigation about Sexual Harassment with no names and no allegations should be treated as LESS THAN gossip.
That's Tavis' spin, but common sense tells you that of course if you ask them to go with you they are, after all your the boss. They want to keep their job. I can't believe that Tavis is that naive.
And was your first 'date' with her a quickie in your office? If not, then this is something very different. "Dating" someone in an attempt to start a relationship is something very different from fucking your secretary.
my big problem here also is many of his accusers said they had consensual relationships with the man and only called harassment after things didn't work out. Having a bad date ,sex or relationship doesnt mean you got raped or sexually harassed. I
thats stupid. many married people have met their spouses in the workplace. I think abuse of power is one thing (asking sexual favours for promotion) but many of the women here agree the relations were consensual. the bar for sexual harassment has drop so low as a male i wouldn't even tell my female coworker she dress well for fear of being accused of harassment
If Tavis Smiley is not guilty of any wrongdoing go and fight for it. Even though he has a consensual relationship with someone in a work place its not counted. Maybe the PBS just want to fire him and get away of indemnity.
My message to Men: If you have to work in a place where there are a lot of women and women are in managerial positions, my advice is to avoid them at all costs. If you have to work directly with them, keep it professional and business related. Don't joke with them, don't go out to lunch with them, don't even sit near them if you don't have to. It is time for men to survive now. there is a assault on men right now in this country and men have to adopt better strategies to survive.
99.9% of men are not under threat. Those men who use their political, social and economic power to force sexual encounters with people are on watch. Don't be a MRA clown.
tom11zz884 I think we men can survive without going into a panic, thank you. It’s about time men got a wake-up call - I don’t like the lingering casual sexism that’s still out there. I wouldn’t want my sisters, nieces or female friends talked about or ogled in the way I’ve seen here and there - the fact that some men are now getting into well-deserved trouble for past behavior makes me think “Good”. Do some women make up accusations, and lie? Yes, of course they do. Does that mean we automatically ignore and discredit any such claim? No, of course not. Any and every such claim must be looked at in its own merits, and investigated - unfortunate for the accused, of either gender, but understandable and necessary for the majority of claims which turn out to be true. I spend a lot of time editing court copy about Men abusing women, and other men - it’s a rarity that women are sexual abusers or predators, although of course they can be and are, too. But this “Look out, Men!” narrative is silly, and this “Don’t trust women!” narrative that some people are trying to peddle is odious. Let the facts emerge, the investigations run, and an end to sexual abuse and misconduct come closer. That’s what any genuine man - or woman - wants.
An assault on men? How might that be in your mind tom11zz884? Women seeking to stand up for their rights is an "assault on men?" I think not. Standing up for ones rights is never an assault! No man exercising his rights is ever stigmatized as "assaulting" women. Let's be clear -- a man who rabs a women's genitals because he feels he is entitled to do so because of his economic status, Trump's admission -- is engaging in assault IMHO!
@seriously154 companies vary rarely investigate ,they react. same as universities. Its become easier to terminate someone just to save face than to find out the truth. Even in cases where its found out women have lied many times the guys dont get their jobs back or any compensation.
Jester Avrgjoe But from my I understanding his employees were approached by the authorities and were asked certain questions which could possibly put Tavis in a bad light.
+Jester Avrgjoe Do YOU know what you're talking about? Tavis wasnt an employee of a corporation, he owned his production company. PBS had no place "investigating" his personal life. How does who the guy CONSENSUALLY has sex with, have anything to do with the show he produces for PBS??
@coptic777 i completely agree. what happens if you take a female intern to a lunch meeting for work related issues and a year later she doesn't get a promotion. she can say you tried to seduce her. Most ppl will automatically assume just because you had lunch with her your a predator. As a male manager you dont have to worry about that with men.Lets no even consider business trips.
Someone has finally been accused who can articulate an alternate point of view. Tavis is someone who is confident in his history and reputation as a person and he is not going to be defined by anyone but himself.
He stands to lose everything right now. The thing with these types of allegations one can never escapes them even if later on you have been proven innocent.
M White, another blk man down. If you go back in retrospect every black man I repeat every black man has ever made a difference in trying to move forward have been KILLED or been scrutinized, not playing the race card. However, Tavis keep holding on & standing ground God is going to get the glory regardless. I see why HELL has enlarged & believe me when I say EVERYONE gets a TURN. Don them FOLK have you right where they want you. I hv no respect for you. What ever happened to AM I MY BRO’S KEEPER!! Bunch of sell outs!!✌️
It was bound to happen eventually. This Me too thing was good at first, but now it is simply women claiming something and a man's life and career is gone. That is not empowering. One day, men activists will form their own groups about either false allegations and sexual abuse from the hands of females. I really want to see Me too is going to react that.
Very well stated Tavis. He's knocking out the credibility of the accusations one punch at a time. I'm so happy that he is fighting this tooth and nail. Someone has to draw the line and he's doing an excellent job.
K Jackson Yeah well said Tavis. When any man has sex with a woman he works with and then it doesn't work out that woman is embarrassed and hurt when he moves on to the next victim. A man wouldn't do that to a woman he cared about not at work. That creates a toxic work environment for her and she will either suffer or quit. So if and emotional man like Tavis that says he respects women does women like that he's just a smooth talking predator. Yeah well said Tavis. So what's your excuses K Jackson are you a fellow predator or don't you think that women have feelings. How's that for drawing the line ??
Jeff Berlin, your statement makes it seem like men have control over women in those relationships instead of it being two adults who for whatever reason could not continue their relationship. I agree it could create a toxic work environment, but what if it's the woman that broke off the relationship? How do we know he is the one that ended the relationships? That is a huge logical leap that we have no proof of.
Marcus A The exact details or games that occurred in the affair doesn't change the toxic environment for the women. And I'm not going to get into all the ways that female's can be preyed on in work place like that. Like do the males draw straws on who gets first go at the fresh meat. I'm just shooting from the hip here I can keep going. So that's the kind of environment you want your mom, or sister's, daughters and granddaughters to work in ?? A work environment like Tavis has is open season on female's for a bunch of predatory pick up artists. And remember this is supposed to be work. And like you said everything changes if she breaks it off, see now we are playing the game, good idea that will work it will be on her now I got a broken heart wink, wink. Are you getting my drift here and I'm just shooting from the hip like I said. Toxic work environment for the women. And Marcus the best part is we got these women right where we want them because they need the job. Lol. Isn't life great and when we get tired of these girls we'll just hire new one's. Lol.
Wow your the biggest magina simp in the world dude! Didn't you hear Tavis say that MANY people in America meet their significant other at work? This is common sense since your at work more than your not (unless your unemployed). Let's not play dumb. He gave you examples of people finding their mates at work so now Obama, Bill Gates & Henry Kissinger are all predators? But since their relationships worked out than there not predators? You act as if every relationship ends well. Some people break up mutually, some are salty about it THAT'S LIFE!!!!! I personally would not date someone I work with but like Tavis said let's not conflate casual relationships with sexual assault that's where the line gets blurred.
This guy doesn't know how an investigation works. He thinks they should release all information that investigators have found regarding accusers so he can smear them. Huh? That's just plain stupid. Due process? Presumption of innocence? Does he think he's in a courtroom? There are MANY legitimate reasons why someone in a position of power in a company/business should not be involved in a sexual relationship with subordinates. If you don't understand or don't agree, too bad.
Bottom line... Don't have sex with your subordinates. If you want to sleep with a coworker, go for it. Hopefully everything turns out well. Boss/employee sex, NO!!!! Too risky now. Btw, Tavis Smiley deserves due process.
@coptic777 i think its crazy even consensual relationships now are being called harassment. The bar is falling lowing and lower every year. The irony in this is most women only date men on their level or higher
I believe him, and I believe he is a reasonable man. And now it should be plain for anyone to that it is not wise for everyone to cry wolf at once. Now, please do go away, dear. I trust you not
um, hello. Did you not hear there was an internal investigation by pbs? Also, Due Process isn't needed in matters where a formal criminal charge isn't being made. If Smiley wants to keep his job, HE'S quite capable of his right to due process to keep it should PBS want to get rid of him. Which most of the targets of these accusations DONT seek. (hmm I wonder why?)
Costa Rica Willy imagine that! But the problem is that liberals wanted to take out Trump by saying he was a sex abuser and instead they shot themselves in the foot. Remember liberals making fun of Secretary of Education Elizabeth Davos for changing the rules in school? Her entire new rule is due process. Yet Democrats demonstrated for days at high schools and harassed Mrs. Davos. All of a sudden, when the shit is hitting them, they want due process. Congratulations Willy. You just sided with Republicans on the due process issue.
Don Lemon: "How may consensual relationships have you had in the workplace": The attempt to get him to admit some type of guilt by providing Don Lemon with an idea of how many people Tavis has inappropriate relationships with, which other media platforms would have spun to their advantage by putting words in Tavis' mouth. Tavis: "That conflates a sensual relationship with sexual assault, and those two things don't connect.": The clarification that the question is completely irrelevant to the conversation at hand and is merely another tact to get me to admit to a guilt that simply isn't there...and.....I know what the fuck you're trying to do. Tavis handled this interview masterfully, and I hope if, which I genuinely feel he is, telling the truth, the false accusers are punished severely, which they probably won't ever be. PBS doesn't deserve him though even if he is cleared. I hope he never goes back there. For a corporation that prides itself on honest, non-bias, investigative journalism and educational programming, they sure handled this investigation like some cowardly, unethical, witch-hunting, shit heads. One Love, The Stormy Poet
Janell Hihi i agree- but his credibility is evident- hopefully he'll have a fair chance t defend hisself- what kinda court condemns w/o presenting a well rounded case?
The bottom line is that if you're going to have a relationship, even if you don't think you should be, you NEED to be careful where you have it at. Because sometimes stories get spun to make it look like you're doing something wrong and you don't even have any idea what's going on. Just got to be really careful because weeding out the good from the bad is like finding a needle in a haystack, usually.
Negative, I am not a DL fan but I think that DL conducted this interview very objectively. Tavis knows that as a president or CEO of a company that you cannot "mess" with subordinates. His argument about other people who have met their spouses at work is lame, because unlike him, whom he was just fucking his subordinates, the people he referenced, MARRIED them
I believe both Smiley and his accusers on the fact that he slept with his some of his employees. Is is sexual harassment? No. He shouldn't have his show suspended for this. In this incident, it's gone too far
This is just STUPID! So what about the thousands of marriages and families that came to be because of a work place relationship. You can't tell people who to date. Sorry but If all of Tavis relationships were consenctual then he's 100% right. This is getting Crazy
I have to admit that being the owner of the company or having a high position within a company while having sexual relationships with your subordinates is not wrong but inappropriate as it can present a conflict of interest. Notice my words, CAN present a conflict of interest. However, this does not equate to sexual misconduct. First of all, most of these women are grown women and they know what their integrity is worth even in the midst of coercion. My integrity is worth more than having a job so they all must know what they were doing before they did it. It's very ludicrous to start finding people guilty on the basis of just accusation. I think there is some conspiracy at work against Tavis as he did not deny any of his encounters. Again, having relationships in a company you own with subordinates do not equate to sexual misconduct and think that's where they got it wrong. I lean more towards Tavis story.
Tavis, how would you feel if your boss was sleeping with everyone and that had everything to do with your promotions and demotions. And please Never mention Public Shaming that's been your job for all of these years.
Alonso or should I call you Tavis? You talk a lot like him by just running your mouth in self defense. Again. Tavis could not answer Don Lemmon's question so he should be quiet. He wanted to use the platform to clear his name but what's that old saying.. "what's done in the dark?" You see Russell Simmons immediately just shut his mouth but Tavis being the narcisstic person he is, simply thinks he can fool everyone. Well Don Lemmon isn't hearing it and neither will millions of others believe Tavis. And this is Tavis first time hearing of these allegations. Really, Tavis? Wow.
Tavis Smiley was 100% correct here. Millions, maybe tens of millions of men and women have had legitimate, consensual relationships with other people who just happened to be their coworkers. Many people have met their spouses throughout the course of the professional career. This is not criminal behavior and is not sexual misconduct. This is an extremely slippery slope.
You have to be a under age boy to do stuff like that Tavis. We all know how women like school age boys. I could file harassment against ugly women all day.
The irony here is most women only date men on their level or above. So i always find it amazing when the same people complain well he had a superior position so im automatically a victim. Its one thing when a manager abuses power but when we are at a stage where a consensual relationship is automatically harassment simply because of title i think it shows how little responsibility women have for their actions.
I know he is a religious narcissist, however, we will have to see the results of court hearing on this sexual assault matter rather than speculation. And don't read that wrongly, I encourage victims to step forward to report anyone who messed with victims. If he is found guilty, then he will dine on spit soup as is common for protective custody inmates. If anyone falsely accuses someone, then the accuser should be sentenced to the maximum.
But this isn't a court matter unless 1.) criminal charges of sexual assault are filed or 2.) Smiley seeks to sue PBS to keep his job if PBS decides to fire him. And if PBS does fire him, ya better believe they believe they have good enough evidence to defend themselves in court.
Tavis and any man in power should know better. Relationships with subordinate women should be avoided 100% because it makes women feel like they need to have sex in order to have a career. Even if the relationship was consensual, it is totally unprofessional + puts the idea sex is in the air at work.
You make some good points, in that it's not a good idea for any man and/ or woman in power to get into those types of situations, but I'm not sure that "feeling a need to have sex" to advance ones career should be used as a bargaining chip, for those who actually have consensual sex for those reasons, but to your point, people do it all the time. I'd say just walk away, unless their "down for the deal". That type of deal usually comes back to bite one or the other people involved in one way or another. Also, now days all it takes is an allegation, no matter what the circumstances are. The ball starts rolling pretty easily.
Marx Wade Right exactly all is needed is an allegation. I hope men are careful and just stay faithful to wives at home. I know Tavis is single but he should find love elsewhere
He was sleeping with his employees and the ones he slept with got promoted and the ones he didn't did not. That's what it sounds like. He can't get mad at anyone but himself. Wtf are you sleeping with your employees? And then he refuse to name how many he slept with means he slept with a lot of people in my opinion.
Right or wrong Tavis, this is still poor judgement. Just for the mere fact that it has put you in a position where you have to explain or defend your actions. Now you are having to clean it up in order to protect your livelihood. Right or wrong, was it worth it?
Tavis handled himself well underfire.. He was honest and forthright in his statements and answers. I applaud Tacos for his courage to defend himself in the midst of ravenous wolves...
I am all for justice! Although many men are guilty of sexual abuse in the workplace, all are not. But, of this I am certain. There are many people who hold grudges against others and this new thing about "I was sexually harrassed" even if the complainer wasn't, will be the headline news of the future. I daresay, not all will be truthful. In some instances, it can be easily proven that the person blamed is guilty, but one cannot simply assume and tar and feather without the needed proof. Tavis Smiley is taking the correct steps to try and prove his innocence. The outcome is yet to be known.....
Rayne Ryan I do agree, as the sudden outbreak of sexual misconduct allegations is really abundant now. But sometimes when you're asked questions and you don't answer them, it's sometimes the things that you're NOT saying that can reveal the truth.
I think Smiley is a stand up guy! Total respect! I've said it once I'll say it again, who HATES the press? The man occupying OUR oval office!! Y'all newscasters need to wake up! Too many careers are being destroyed and Tavis is the only one standing up to this!!
Yes we need to do due process even w Trump who confessed to it. Yes it's difficult for the accusors. It's difficult for any victim of any crime, many many of whom fear literally for their lives and the lives of their loved ones, not just for speed bumps in their career, or having to change careers, etc.. The speed ferocity & overwhelming media support of this "movement" is indeed reminiscent of other issues the alt right & their supporters have used, turning valid concerns into distracting "shiny objects". We now have witch hunts with private groups taking THE LAW into their own hands instead of reporting the potential CRIMES to the POLICE for proper INVESTIGATION, prosecution and punishment by law enforcement and judicial professionals who it should be noted often go to extremes to support accusors, protect their identities and shield them from retaliation, physical & otherwise. Witch hunts indeed it has become when accusors & the charges themselves are kept secret, preventing accused from any defense. It has never been easy to be free, something all need to remember.
Mr. Smiley speaks very distinctly and articulately until four minutes and twenty seconds into the interview when he’s asked how many employees he had relations with, then he begins to stammer and stutter, Mr. Smiley, stay off of TV if you do not want to say how many of your under staff you slept with, that is going to kill your case, I’m just saying…
It sounds like they had someone in mind for Tavis job knowing he would not quit.Police Officer work together some Depts. don't allow to be at the same Station.
Why is Don acting like people in the workplace never develop intimate relationships? Weird. And why is he asking how many intimate relationships Tavis had? Inappropriate and very weird.
tavis has his OWN definition of sexual abuse. Of course he knows who he has messed with- & only want to answer to what he want to. Get real tavis- u have been caught w/your "pants down" & now u want some sympathy- Forget it!!!!!!!
I don't believe it because he the accusations don't sound like rape or harassment or groping! He is being persecuted for being a man who like to get laid, what's wrong with that, we all know people hook up in corporate settings, but he's being falsely accused and I'm pissed at PBS for not allowing the investigation to be competed! Al Franken was railroaded too. I'm a female who has been through REAL abuse (sorry if that offends anyone who felt raped after their ass got grabbed), where a police report was filed and jail time was actually served! This is suspect as hell!
I'd watch a show called " Rose and Tavis" they could share stories about the ladies of PBS and some political points with clips of the ladies of PBS... Just saying
Harlem Night when a guy owns a business life will go a lot easier if he leaves the help alone and keeps business all business. All you gotta do is up your game a little bit and find what you want after your done with business. Actually you said it get out more then you don't have to bang the help.
Adam and Eve started this crap when eve disobeyed God. Now we have a lot of Eve's running around chopping down apple trees everywhere and ruining lives to boot. Well, it sounds good anyway. ha ha ha.....
I'm still trying to understand if it's consensual how is it misconduct? He's single and the workers are adults who made their mind up to have sex with him. He just mentioned his office does have a policy against being in a relationship in the workplace.
+Jester Avrgjoe .. this is why women should not be in the workplace with men at all. this silly experiment started in the 70s, and just caused everyone's income to go down, and the destruction of the family unit
The moral to the story...if your a wealthy TV producer, you own the company, you shouldn't be having sex with subordinates. If you're going to do it then get married to the person. Ya can't use your company as a dating app.
The real problem is tavis is speaking out about the folk in this country not doing very well all colors especially the black folk and the elites wealthy do not like it they want tavis to go away! Thats what this is all about folks! I support tavis smiley!
I agree that not all claims are true. I think there needs to be more rules regarding superiors and their subordinates having relationships. Both need protection. It is getting to the point where we will not be able to be around others without a video camera.
Seems like some of the women he happened to sleep with worked for him, not sexual assault. I doubt there are are any criminal charges to come of this. If his actions were against pbs's policy, I guess they have the right to cancel his show though.
Tavis the problem with this is you think your to smart for your own good you made some great points people meet at the work place and fall in love all the time the fact is your dam 50 plus and still have not found your love sounds like you are using the work place for your personal playground player
kenisha white hey what's up, Kenisha? I'm John, and I agree with you. It's important to watch the company you keep, or in this case, the people you date. Sometimes how smart you are doesn't matter if you've done something that you should have known better about.
First of all, in my humble opinion the problem is with society allowing WOMEN to play the VICTIM card even when they are NOT. I have seen this ALL OF MY LIFE. JUST AS people play the RACE , SEXUAL ORIENTATION, RELIGION AND ETHNICITY CARDS when it can/ will benefit them or their cause. Isn’t it a crime NOT to REPORT A CRIME? If a crime have been committed against WOMEN or ANYONE; if they do not report it. 1. They should have to PROVE ALLEGATIONS especially YEARS later 2. NOT be allowed to SUE, EXTORT and/or Profit in ANY WAY years later, 3. Just destroy people’s career and reputations....... maybe the woman is jilted, fired, a racist, bipolar, rep or dem, etc......I know, I know .....people with a VICTIM MENTALITY AND THEIR ATTORNEYS will say SHE WAS SCARED. BULLSHIST. IF A CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED ..YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO REPORT IT FOR YOUR SAFETY AND OTHERS. BUT, NO ONE WILL SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE......A VICTIM MINDSET ....IS A WOMANS CARD!!!!!!! To pull out at ANY GIVEN TIME, FOR ANY REASON, MOTIVE. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!! Nothing new under the Sun. Wake up!!!!!
Lydia Thornton I agree, but unfortunately you have some people who feel they have no rights, use them when they CHOOSE to, or just don't care UNTIL the same shit happens to them.
John B aka Smooth Chocolate : I agree with you that’s why the WRITTEN law should always be the STANDARD or at least the go to after the dust settles . Although people will break the law, ignore etc... at least it’s TANGIBLE something we can refer to, look at, and compare and CHANGE if it is unfair.
Lydia Thornton Exactly. Give people proof that their rights are not just words up in the air. In fact, when you look at the word "freedom," the key word in it is "free." Free to express ourselves and free to use what we have.
And they rushed me to judgment because they forced me into a mental hospital because of ideas solutions that brings revenues to each and every state if there's a seat to move forward
As a female, I'm in NO WAY defending sexual predatory behavior and assault, but we should also remember that not EVERY woman crying sexual misconduct or rape is telling the truth.
KLM Hooked Moore A toxic environment at work is created for a woman when she has sex with anyone at work and if it doesn't work out and then that person moves on to the next victim. She will be embarrassed and that's toxic then she will either suffer or quit because she's hurt. Any man that truly cares about a woman would never do that to her at work. Only a sexual predator would be so cruel to women. That makes Tavis a sexual predator creating a toxic environment for the women he uses. Especially since Tavis is so concerned about women's issues and he's so emotional, Lol. Tavis really talks some smooth BS if you don't care about women at work. Tavis is just PUA simp predator.
Jeff Berlin....It's as though you're saying that every sexual encounter has a man as hunter/woman as prey dynamic. It takes two to tango and it's not always the man that initiates. If a sexual encounter doesn't lead to a long term relationship, how on earth does that automatically make the woman a victim? If she's somehow embarrassed afterwards, because of a decision SHE made, how does that automatically make the man a predator? Is it a mistake to have sex with a co-worker? A majority of the time, absolutely. However, it's a mistake that involves 2 adults who each have to live with whatever the consequences are for the decision he or she made.
Tim Oakley - The direction you took your comment in didn't really have anything to do with my original statement.
KLM Hooked Moore Not yours, that comment was meant for Jeff Berlin. I mistakenly erased his name from the front of the comment. I'll fix that now. Sorry bout that. It's is a relevant comment, I promise. I happen to agree with everything you said.
Tim Oakley - No problem👍
I can't stand Tavis' politics but I do not believe for one second the allegations against him.
Tavis makes a great argument and offers a very clear perspective.
Don't know this guy Smiley, but I have to say: An investigation about Sexual Harassment with no names and no allegations should be treated as LESS THAN gossip.
That's Tavis' spin, but common sense tells you that of course if you ask them to go with you they are, after all your the boss. They want to keep their job. I can't believe that Tavis is that naive.
@@mr72rosalind so a CONSENSUAL situation is his fault Bc the woman may feel obligated even though he never said “come home with me or you’re fired?”
I’m with Travis on this, I met my wife at work 6 years ago. I’m glad he’s fighting back.
And was your first 'date' with her a quickie in your office? If not, then this is something very different. "Dating" someone in an attempt to start a relationship is something very different from fucking your secretary.
This is the problem with this me too thing. Accusations with no evidences can derail a unwitting man's life.
Speak up if it happened to you. To hell with his career
my big problem here also is many of his accusers said they had consensual relationships with the man and only called harassment after things didn't work out. Having a bad date ,sex or relationship doesnt mean you got raped or sexually harassed. I
When ur the boss of a company u don't sleep around with ' the help '.
thats stupid. many married people have met their spouses in the workplace. I think abuse of power is one thing (asking sexual favours for promotion) but many of the women here agree the relations were consensual. the bar for sexual harassment has drop so low as a male i wouldn't even tell my female coworker she dress well for fear of being accused of harassment
another example of neoconservatives taking a position on civil rights after turning it to destroy it’s proponents
I believe him damn it's a shame how they doing sum of these men
Yes It Is!!!... And Mj Put Up With These Lies About Him ...It Destroyed Him!!!
Ummm black men were the only ones going to jail for this shit all the Yt ones are getting off.
If Tavis Smiley is not guilty of any wrongdoing go and fight for it. Even though he has a consensual relationship with someone in a work place its not counted. Maybe the PBS just want to fire him and get away of indemnity.
its easier to fire an innocent male that find out the truth.less colateral damage .we see it all the time
My message to Men:
If you have to work in a place where there are a lot of women and women are in managerial positions, my advice is to avoid them at all costs. If you have to work directly with them, keep it professional and business related. Don't joke with them, don't go out to lunch with them, don't even sit near them if you don't have to. It is time for men to survive now. there is a assault on men right now in this country and men have to adopt better strategies to survive.
99.9% of men are not under threat. Those men who use their political, social and economic power to force sexual encounters with people are on watch. Don't be a MRA clown.
tom11zz884 I think we men can survive without going into a panic, thank you. It’s about time men got a wake-up call - I don’t like the lingering casual sexism that’s still out there. I wouldn’t want my sisters, nieces or female friends talked about or ogled in the way I’ve seen here and there - the fact that some men are now getting into well-deserved trouble for past behavior makes me think “Good”. Do some women make up accusations, and lie? Yes, of course they do. Does that mean we automatically ignore and discredit any such claim? No, of course not. Any and every such claim must be looked at in its own merits, and investigated - unfortunate for the accused, of either gender, but understandable and necessary for the majority of claims which turn out to be true. I spend a lot of time editing court copy about Men abusing women, and other men - it’s a rarity that women are sexual abusers or predators, although of course they can be and are, too. But this “Look out, Men!” narrative is silly, and this “Don’t trust women!” narrative that some people are trying to peddle is odious. Let the facts emerge, the investigations run, and an end to sexual abuse and misconduct come closer. That’s what any genuine man - or woman - wants.
C B Oh yeah. Because we men are under such threat to the status quo.
An assault on men? How might that be in your mind tom11zz884? Women seeking to stand up for their rights is an "assault on men?" I think not. Standing up for ones rights is never an assault! No man exercising his rights is ever stigmatized as "assaulting" women. Let's be clear -- a man who rabs a women's genitals because he feels he is entitled to do so because of his economic status, Trump's admission -- is engaging in assault IMHO!
@seriously154 companies vary rarely investigate ,they react. same as universities. Its become easier to terminate someone just to save face than to find out the truth. Even in cases where its found out women have lied many times the guys dont get their jobs back or any compensation.
If he slept with employees that's not a crime but very counterproductive pbs should have handled it privately he earned that at least
Jester Avrgjoe agree
Jester Avrgjoe But from my I understanding his employees were approached by the authorities and were asked certain questions which could possibly put Tavis in a bad light.
+Jester Avrgjoe Do YOU know what you're talking about? Tavis wasnt an employee of a corporation, he owned his production company. PBS had no place "investigating" his personal life. How does who the guy CONSENSUALLY has sex with, have anything to do with the show he produces for PBS??
Agreed, Tavis is one of the best figures in the media I know of, he deserves that at least.
@coptic777 i completely agree. what happens if you take a female intern to a lunch meeting for work related issues and a year later she doesn't get a promotion. she can say you tried to seduce her. Most ppl will automatically assume just because you had lunch with her your a predator. As a male manager you dont have to worry about that with men.Lets no even consider business trips.
I heard a funny quote about office relationships "you do not shit where you eat".
It was not meant to be a funny quote, it is absolute old school common sense saying and it is true.
John Bosco Exactly .... especially when your at the head of the table !
Someone has finally been accused who can articulate an alternate point of view. Tavis is someone who is confident in his history and reputation as a person and he is not going to be defined by anyone but himself.
M White
Totally agree.
He stands to lose everything right now. The thing with these types of allegations one can never escapes them even if later on you have been proven innocent.
M White, another blk man down. If you go back in retrospect every black man I repeat every black man has ever made a difference in trying to move forward have been KILLED or been scrutinized, not playing the race card. However, Tavis keep holding on & standing ground God is going to get the glory regardless. I see why HELL has enlarged & believe me when I say EVERYONE gets a TURN. Don them FOLK have you right where they want you. I hv no respect for you. What ever happened to AM I MY BRO’S KEEPER!! Bunch of sell outs!!✌️
It was bound to happen eventually. This Me too thing was good at first, but now it is simply women claiming something and a man's life and career is gone. That is not empowering. One day, men activists will form their own groups about either false allegations and sexual abuse from the hands of females. I really want to see Me too is going to react that.
M White MAKE IT PLAIN
Democrats are going to regret they began down this road...
Peter Cox yo ass is crazy, ya I said is
Bodywise Solutions it has nothing to do with party unless it's someone running or in office
petercox9 good making it political is just an excuse
A or one now can't answer Don's question. He didn't ask for names.
Very well stated Tavis. He's knocking out the credibility of the accusations one punch at a time. I'm so happy that he is fighting this tooth and nail. Someone has to draw the line and he's doing an excellent job.
K Jackson Yeah well said Tavis. When any man has sex with a woman he works with and then it doesn't work out that woman is embarrassed and hurt when he moves on to the next victim. A man wouldn't do that to a woman he cared about not at work. That creates a toxic work environment for her and she will either suffer or quit. So if and emotional man like Tavis that says he respects women does women like that he's just a smooth talking predator. Yeah well said Tavis. So what's your excuses K Jackson are you a fellow predator or don't you think that women have feelings. How's that for drawing the line ??
Jeff Berlin, your statement makes it seem like men have control over women in those relationships instead of it being two adults who for whatever reason could not continue their relationship. I agree it could create a toxic work environment, but what if it's the woman that broke off the relationship? How do we know he is the one that ended the relationships? That is a huge logical leap that we have no proof of.
Marcus A The exact details or games that occurred in the affair doesn't change the toxic environment for the women. And I'm not going to get into all the ways that female's can be preyed on in work place like that. Like do the males draw straws on who gets first go at the fresh meat. I'm just shooting from the hip here I can keep going. So that's the kind of environment you want your mom, or sister's, daughters and granddaughters to work in ?? A work environment like Tavis has is open season on female's for a bunch of predatory pick up artists. And remember this is supposed to be work. And like you said everything changes if she breaks it off, see now we are playing the game, good idea that will work it will be on her now I got a broken heart wink, wink. Are you getting my drift here and I'm just shooting from the hip like I said. Toxic work environment for the women. And Marcus the best part is we got these women right where we want them because they need the job. Lol. Isn't life great and when we get tired of these girls we'll just hire new one's. Lol.
Wow your the biggest magina simp in the world dude!
Didn't you hear Tavis say that MANY people in America meet their significant other at work? This is common sense since your at work more than your not (unless your unemployed). Let's not play dumb.
He gave you examples of people finding their mates at work so now Obama, Bill Gates & Henry Kissinger are all predators? But since their relationships worked out than there not predators? You act as if every relationship ends well. Some people break up mutually, some are salty about it THAT'S LIFE!!!!! I personally would not date someone I work with but like Tavis said let's not conflate casual relationships with sexual assault that's where the line gets blurred.
FACTS!!!!!!
This guy doesn't know how an investigation works. He thinks they should release all information that investigators have found regarding accusers so he can smear them. Huh? That's just plain stupid. Due process? Presumption of innocence? Does he think he's in a courtroom? There are MANY legitimate reasons why someone in a position of power in a company/business should not be involved in a sexual relationship with subordinates. If you don't understand or don't agree, too bad.
Bottom line... Don't have sex with your subordinates. If you want to sleep with a coworker, go for it. Hopefully everything turns out well. Boss/employee sex, NO!!!! Too risky now. Btw, Tavis Smiley deserves due process.
@coptic777 i think its crazy even consensual relationships now are being called harassment. The bar is falling lowing and lower every year. The irony in this is most women only date men on their level or higher
I believe him, and I believe he is a reasonable man. And now it should be plain for anyone to that it is not wise for everyone to cry wolf at once. Now, please do go away, dear. I trust you not
We have to stop judging by media and give everyone due process
um, hello. Did you not hear there was an internal investigation by pbs? Also, Due Process isn't needed in matters where a formal criminal charge isn't being made. If Smiley wants to keep his job, HE'S quite capable of his right to due process to keep it should PBS want to get rid of him. Which most of the targets of these accusations DONT seek. (hmm I wonder why?)
Costa Rica Willy imagine that! But the problem is that liberals wanted to take out Trump by saying he was a sex abuser and instead they shot themselves in the foot. Remember liberals making fun of Secretary of Education Elizabeth Davos for changing the rules in school? Her entire new rule is due process. Yet Democrats demonstrated for days at high schools and harassed Mrs. Davos. All of a sudden, when the shit is hitting them, they want due process. Congratulations Willy. You just sided with Republicans on the due process issue.
Now if only Trump could understand due process and stop obstructing justice! Devos got that one right.
WatchMyVideoDude I don't know what state you're in, but schools already have due process.
monica parker thank the Trump Administration. Obama took away the due process.
I miss Tavis Smiley, they brought a great man down.
#ADOS and that's why.
Don Lemon: "How may consensual relationships have you had in the workplace": The attempt to get him to admit some type of guilt by providing Don Lemon with an idea of how many people Tavis has inappropriate relationships with, which other media platforms would have spun to their advantage by putting words in Tavis' mouth.
Tavis: "That conflates a sensual relationship with sexual assault, and those two things don't connect.": The clarification that the question is completely irrelevant to the conversation at hand and is merely another tact to get me to admit to a guilt that simply isn't there...and.....I know what the fuck you're trying to do.
Tavis handled this interview masterfully, and I hope if, which I genuinely feel he is, telling the truth, the false accusers are punished severely, which they probably won't ever be.
PBS doesn't deserve him though even if he is cleared. I hope he never goes back there. For a corporation that prides itself on honest, non-bias, investigative journalism and educational programming, they sure handled this investigation like some cowardly, unethical, witch-hunting, shit heads.
One Love,
The Stormy Poet
Travis don’t do anymore interviews- where are your lawyers?
Janell Hihi i agree- but his credibility is evident- hopefully he'll have a fair chance t defend hisself- what kinda court condemns w/o presenting a well rounded case?
Lando Kalerisian Unfortunately the court of public opinion. No due process. Look at Al Franken and Garrison Keillor.
He has a justified lawsuit coming.
Darius Brule I must raise the point that there FLIP/FLOPIN FOLKS out there that FLIP out when they smell Money 💰 🤑 ¥€$!
@Paul Dalnoky why do you say that?
@@charlesgreen632 True
The bottom line is that if you're going to have a relationship, even if you don't think you should be, you NEED to be careful where you have it at. Because sometimes stories get spun to make it look like you're doing something wrong and you don't even have any idea what's going on. Just got to be really careful because weeding out the good from the bad is like finding a needle in a haystack, usually.
Happy Birthday to Tavis.9-13-64.
Keep fighting Tavis to protect your reputation... A GREAT reputation I may add. Good luck bro.
Is it me or is Don rushing to judgements and making damning presumptions about Tavis just like PBS?
Negative, I am not a DL fan but I think that DL conducted this interview very objectively. Tavis knows that as a president or CEO of a company that you cannot "mess" with subordinates. His argument about other people who have met their spouses at work is lame, because unlike him, whom he was just fucking his subordinates, the people he referenced, MARRIED them
Julie Chen will not be saying a word about this on the Talk, I take it...
hahahahhaha
Sex and subordinate and higher-ups EQUALS BIG PROBLEMS....when someone works at a less powerful job they are not colleagues and consent is Not equal
I believe both Smiley and his accusers on the fact that he slept with his some of his employees. Is is sexual harassment? No. He shouldn't have his show suspended for this. In this incident, it's gone too far
tyrone james telling someone to cease the behavior is the first step in a case like this.
Aaron L I can agree on that.
tyrone james That the smartest comment I have seen anyone make on this situation involving Tavis.
Tavis sit and spin. Find dates outside of your own corporation.
bluetextbooks try spell check
This is just STUPID! So what about the thousands of marriages and families that came to be because of a work place relationship. You can't tell people who to date. Sorry but If all of Tavis relationships were consenctual then he's 100% right. This is getting Crazy
So a woman seduces him and he hits it, she expects to have a job forever. Years later she is fired for being lazy, so she gets pissed.
Greedy never get your meat and your bread from the same place
Daren Holloway I want that on a t-shirt 😂
Daren Holloway why not? or how come? Your statement makes no sense to me.
Because a butcher can't bake.
Oh my god so true. Award winning statement. Yes don't get your meat, and bread at the same place.
I have to admit that being the owner of the company or having a high position within a company while having sexual relationships with your subordinates is not wrong but inappropriate as it can present a conflict of interest. Notice my words, CAN present a conflict of interest. However, this does not equate to sexual misconduct. First of all, most of these women are grown women and they know what their integrity is worth even in the midst of coercion. My integrity is worth more than having a job so they all must know what they were doing before they did it. It's very ludicrous to start finding people guilty on the basis of just accusation. I think there is some conspiracy at work against Tavis as he did not deny any of his encounters. Again, having relationships in a company you own with subordinates do not equate to sexual misconduct and think that's where they got it wrong. I lean more towards Tavis story.
They did not shut your show down, YOU suspended it
Tavis, how would you feel if your boss was sleeping with everyone and that had everything to do with your promotions and demotions. And please Never mention Public Shaming that's been your job for all of these years.
Alonso or should I call you Tavis? You talk a lot like him by just running your mouth in self defense. Again. Tavis could not answer Don Lemmon's question so he should be quiet. He wanted to use the platform to clear his name but what's that old saying.. "what's done in the dark?" You see Russell Simmons immediately just shut his mouth but Tavis being the narcisstic person he is, simply thinks he can fool everyone. Well Don Lemmon isn't hearing it and neither will millions of others believe Tavis. And this is Tavis first time hearing of these allegations. Really, Tavis? Wow.
Tavis Smiley was 100% correct here. Millions, maybe tens of millions of men and women have had legitimate, consensual relationships with other people who just happened to be their coworkers. Many people have met their spouses throughout the course of the professional career. This is not criminal behavior and is not sexual misconduct. This is an extremely slippery slope.
He is reluctant to mention the number of subordinates that he had sexual relationships with. That is a huge red flag.
He's reluctant because it's an ongoing situation.
Thank you for your objectivity.
You have to be a under age boy to do stuff like that Tavis. We all know how women like school age boys. I could file harassment against ugly women all day.
Time will tell.
It is like the USA is slowly figuring out the concept of "due process"...
I'll tell you what does not matter.. You opinion.
I hope smiley sue the fuck Out of PBS.
The irony here is most women only date men on their level or above. So i always find it amazing when the same people complain well he had a superior position so im automatically a victim. Its one thing when a manager abuses power but when we are at a stage where a consensual relationship is automatically harassment simply because of title i think it shows how little responsibility women have for their actions.
I know he is a religious narcissist, however, we will have to see the results of court hearing on this sexual assault matter rather than speculation. And don't read that wrongly, I encourage victims to step forward to report anyone who messed with victims. If he is found guilty, then he will dine on spit soup as is common for protective custody inmates.
If anyone falsely accuses someone, then the accuser should be sentenced to the maximum.
But this isn't a court matter unless 1.) criminal charges of sexual assault are filed or 2.) Smiley seeks to sue PBS to keep his job if PBS decides to fire him. And if PBS does fire him, ya better believe they believe they have good enough evidence to defend themselves in court.
In this day and age men should never start a relationship with a coworker.
If she is a woman..yes.
alex seioo MGTOW!!
Tavis and any man in power should know better. Relationships with subordinate women should be avoided 100% because it makes women feel like they need to have sex in order to have a career. Even if the relationship was consensual, it is totally unprofessional + puts the idea sex is in the air at work.
Haya Glamazon hell no some women are willing to sleep around why would any man pay a price for sleeping around unless he's raped or groped
well said, I Totally agree. Do you think his guilty?
You make some good points, in that it's not a good idea for any man and/ or woman in power to get into those types of situations, but I'm not sure that "feeling a need to have sex" to advance ones career should be used as a bargaining chip, for those who actually have consensual sex for those reasons, but to your point, people do it all the time. I'd say just walk away, unless their "down for the deal". That type of deal usually comes back to bite one or the other people involved in one way or another. Also, now days all it takes is an allegation, no matter what the circumstances are. The ball starts rolling pretty easily.
Ade Ola I don't think he has raped or forced women into sex but I think he used terrible judgement.
Marx Wade Right exactly all is needed is an allegation. I hope men are careful and just stay faithful to wives at home. I know Tavis is single but he should find love elsewhere
Subordinates are not "colleagues"! They are "employees"!!!
Cindy Christian Hi Cindy. I'm John and I wanted to wish you a Happy new year and it's great to meet you. I agree with you too.
He admitted that he was a playa. Thats not against the law.
MMA HEARTBEAT Nor should it be firable. Big difference between consensual and sexual misconduct or abuse.
MMA HEARTBEAT no he admitted that he was a predator. Doing employees isn't playing.
Brother is gonna work it out!!!! P E
He was sleeping with his employees and the ones he slept with got promoted and the ones he didn't did not. That's what it sounds like. He can't get mad at anyone but himself. Wtf are you sleeping with your employees? And then he refuse to name how many he slept with means he slept with a lot of people in my opinion.
I’d doubt it
Ann'G Yup ... he was Fucking like a rabbit !
PBS went OFF in that statement damn!
Based on your recent news CNN, isn't allegations are enough?
dollybatam
No!
Were the accusers men?
YOU SHOULD NOT BE DATING, IN A RELATIONSHIP OR SLEEPING WITH YOUR CO-WORKERS OR SUBORDINATES. YOU DON'T MIX BUSINESS WITH PLEASURE.
Right or wrong Tavis, this is still poor judgement. Just for the mere fact that it has put you in a position where you have to explain or defend your actions. Now you are having to clean it up in order to protect your livelihood. Right or wrong, was it worth it?
Tavis handled himself well underfire.. He was honest and forthright in his statements and answers. I applaud Tacos for his courage to defend himself in the midst of ravenous wolves...
"sometimes, things jump off" 😂
Billy graham was never accused.... you get it? Just saying
I am all for justice! Although many men are guilty of sexual abuse in the workplace, all are not. But, of this I am certain. There are many people who hold grudges against others and this new thing about "I was sexually harrassed" even if the complainer wasn't, will be the headline news of the future. I daresay, not all will be truthful. In some instances, it can be easily proven that the person blamed is guilty, but one cannot simply assume and tar and feather without the needed proof. Tavis Smiley is taking the correct steps to try and prove his innocence. The outcome is yet to be known.....
Rayne Ryan I do agree, as the sudden outbreak of sexual misconduct allegations is really abundant now. But sometimes when you're asked questions and you don't answer them, it's sometimes the things that you're NOT saying that can reveal the truth.
I think Smiley is a stand up guy! Total respect! I've said it once I'll say it again, who HATES the press? The man occupying OUR oval office!! Y'all newscasters need to wake up! Too many careers are being destroyed and Tavis is the only one standing up to this!!
PBS going to lose a lot of money. They've already lost me as a viewer.
jfsfrnd That's where he worked.
Same here Alex. Screw pbs
jfsfrnd Oh I was a big fan. I won't deal with them now!!
He definitely should have been shown proof.
TAVIS IS FINISHED.....GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR NEXT CAREER...
Tavis Smiley is in denial.
Yes we need to do due process even w Trump who confessed to it. Yes it's difficult for the accusors. It's difficult for any victim of any crime, many many of whom fear literally for their lives and the lives of their loved ones, not just for speed bumps in their career, or having to change careers, etc.. The speed ferocity & overwhelming media support of this "movement" is indeed reminiscent of other issues the alt right & their supporters have used, turning valid concerns into distracting "shiny objects". We now have witch hunts with private groups taking THE LAW into their own hands instead of reporting the potential CRIMES to the POLICE for proper INVESTIGATION, prosecution and punishment by law enforcement and judicial professionals who it should be noted often go to extremes to support accusors, protect their identities and shield them from retaliation, physical & otherwise. Witch hunts indeed it has become when accusors & the charges themselves are kept secret, preventing accused from any defense. It has never been easy to be free, something all need to remember.
I believe Tavis his story is still the same.
CAN ANYONE SAY "DEFAMATION LAWSUIT" PLEASE SUE THEM TAVIS!!!!!!!!!
Damn. People stop having sex with co-workers.
they're not co-workers...
Mr. Smiley speaks very distinctly and articulately until four minutes and twenty seconds into the interview when he’s asked how many employees he had relations with, then he begins to stammer and stutter, Mr. Smiley, stay off of TV if you do not want to say how many of your under staff you slept with, that is going to kill your case, I’m just saying…
I don't believe him
It sounds like they had someone in mind for Tavis job knowing he would not quit.Police Officer work together some Depts. don't allow to be at the same Station.
Why is Don acting like people in the workplace never develop intimate relationships? Weird. And why is he asking how many intimate relationships Tavis had? Inappropriate and very weird.
Its hard for these kinds of people to understand the words inappropriate or appropriate. Crossing the line is is not good also...
Larry 306 THAT would be true if it was handled across the board. Crossing the line has worked for 45 before he was 45
tavis has his OWN definition of sexual abuse. Of course he knows who he has messed with- & only want to answer to what he want to. Get real tavis- u have been caught w/your "pants down" & now u want some sympathy- Forget it!!!!!!!
Luebla Blacknell idiots like u scare me. After watching this interview is this what I took away?
Larry 306
What was done that you consider crossing the line? Exactly, don't assume anything if you don't have any details.
Soon as he started talking about trump...
If he could say I had 3 relationships with employees is different than saying 15. Three we shrug our shoulders; ifteen it's our eyebrows.
You know this is against the subject but what happens when the president send you policies preferring to solutions and they never get answered
same thing with me I don't even know what the allegations are if any coming upon me all I know I was looking for leadership
I don't believe it because he the accusations don't sound like rape or harassment or groping! He is being persecuted for being a man who like to get laid, what's wrong with that, we all know people hook up in corporate settings, but he's being falsely accused and I'm pissed at PBS for not allowing the investigation to be competed! Al Franken was railroaded too. I'm a female who has been through REAL abuse (sorry if that offends anyone who felt raped after their ass got grabbed), where a police report was filed and jail time was actually served! This is suspect as hell!
If my memory serves me Mr. Smiley lost the case and was ordered to pay PBS 2.4 million
They needed to remove STRONG BLACK MEN (like Tavis) out and REPLACE them CLOWNS.
I'd watch a show called " Rose and Tavis" they could share stories about the ladies of PBS and some political points with clips of the ladies of PBS... Just saying
Tavis actually thinks it's ok to have sex with the employees as long as they consent wink, wink. You have to be kidding me.
yeah it's pretty normal actually.
Dude, you need to get out more
Harlem Night when a guy owns a business life will go a lot easier if he leaves the help alone and keeps business all business. All you gotta do is up your game a little bit and find what you want after your done with business. Actually you said it get out more then you don't have to bang the help.
craig rankine I do and I wouldn't dream of banging the help.
People shouldn't have sex with their employees but if they do its not a crime as long as it's consensual.
Adam and Eve started this crap when eve disobeyed God. Now we have a lot of Eve's running around chopping down apple trees everywhere and ruining lives to boot. Well, it sounds good anyway. ha ha ha.....
Vivian Pough that's a myth
Travis good for you, no man should take this lying down unless if you are a woman.
I'm still trying to understand if it's consensual how is it misconduct? He's single and the workers are adults who made their mind up to have sex with him. He just mentioned his office does have a policy against being in a relationship in the workplace.
+Jester Avrgjoe ..
this is why women should not be in the workplace with men at all. this silly experiment started in the 70s, and just caused everyone's income to go down, and the destruction of the family unit
The moral to the story...if your a wealthy TV producer, you own the company, you shouldn't be having sex with subordinates. If you're going to do it then get married to the person. Ya can't use your company as a dating app.
I am proud of Tavis for standing up to these accusations. Sex with subordinates? Consensual suggests coordinates.
He dated women in his company. The women felt that their job was on the line while dating him. He is guilty of poor judgement but not sexual predator.
Consensual is NOT improper behavior.
He doesn't understand how power works.
The real problem is tavis is speaking out about the folk in this country not doing very well all colors especially the black folk and the elites wealthy do not like it they want tavis to go away! Thats what this is all about folks! I support tavis smiley!
I agree that not all claims are true. I think there needs to be more rules regarding superiors and their subordinates having relationships. Both need protection. It is getting to the point where we will not be able to be around others without a video camera.
Seems like some of the women he happened to sleep with worked for him, not sexual assault. I doubt there are are any criminal charges to come of this. If his actions were against pbs's policy, I guess they have the right to cancel his show though.
Tavis the problem with this is you think your to smart for your own good you made some great points people meet at the work place and fall in love all the time the fact is your dam 50 plus and still have not found your love sounds like you are using the work place for your personal playground player
kenisha white hey what's up, Kenisha? I'm John, and I agree with you. It's important to watch the company you keep, or in this case, the people you date. Sometimes how smart you are doesn't matter if you've done something that you should have known better about.
First of all, in my humble opinion the problem is with society allowing WOMEN to play the VICTIM card even when they are NOT. I have seen this ALL OF MY LIFE. JUST AS people play the RACE , SEXUAL ORIENTATION, RELIGION AND ETHNICITY CARDS when it can/ will benefit them or their cause. Isn’t it a crime NOT to REPORT A CRIME? If a crime have been committed against WOMEN or ANYONE; if they do not report it. 1. They should have to PROVE ALLEGATIONS especially YEARS later 2. NOT be allowed to SUE, EXTORT and/or Profit in ANY WAY years later, 3. Just destroy people’s career and reputations....... maybe the woman is jilted, fired, a racist, bipolar, rep or dem, etc......I know, I know .....people with a VICTIM MENTALITY AND THEIR ATTORNEYS will say SHE WAS SCARED. BULLSHIST. IF A CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED ..YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO REPORT IT FOR YOUR SAFETY AND OTHERS. BUT, NO ONE WILL SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE......A VICTIM MINDSET ....IS A WOMANS CARD!!!!!!! To pull out at ANY GIVEN TIME, FOR ANY REASON, MOTIVE. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!! Nothing new under the Sun. Wake up!!!!!
Lydia Thornton I agree, but unfortunately you have some people who feel they have no rights, use them when they CHOOSE to, or just don't care UNTIL the same shit happens to them.
John B aka Smooth Chocolate : I agree with you that’s why the WRITTEN law should always be the STANDARD or at least the go to after the dust settles . Although people will break the law, ignore etc... at least it’s TANGIBLE something we can refer to, look at, and compare and CHANGE if it is unfair.
Lydia Thornton Exactly. Give people proof that their rights are not just words up in the air. In fact, when you look at the word "freedom," the key word in it is "free." Free to express ourselves and free to use what we have.
Complete agree with Tavis and hope he sues the fuck out of them.
And they rushed me to judgment because they forced me into a mental hospital because of ideas solutions that brings revenues to each and every state if there's a seat to move forward
This investigation was not done properly. He being pre-judged.
hmm i wonder how they staged this one...