Stenberg, Headland, and Kennedy's use of the term "toxic fans" is their attempt to frame and limit discussion. People have a right to spend their money any way they want to, and if a Lucasfilm product is perceived to be subpar, Disney's customers aren't going to pay for it.
No one complained when Solo kinda failed. But Solo made money. The blame was put where it was. Better movies others wanted to see. It happens. And yea I like Solo better now than even then. Proof to some folks just like Star Wars and the story line. So much could have been done.
My parents will never take our kids to see Disney, ever, after this mess with these horrible people! We will never take them to see Disney again unless they fire all these wack jobs and bring on talented non-woke people directors and actresses! They don’t even know how to act!
We now live in an age where young activists in the entertainment industry will attack long time fans of great franchises for not liking what they made and never take responsibility for the fact that they failed.
Why didn't that majority watch the show?! Who held them back?! Why didn't they show up?! Anyway, I guess its easier to blame the non-existent as they cannot fight back...
Everything coming out of KK, Amandla, Leslye, etc, seems to come down to, "Look, we want to change this franchise into something completely different that reflects our worldview, and how DARE you not be on board with that." That's it. Truly. It's a temper tantrum that people aren't okay with them changing the nature of Star Wars to something that reflects a completely different outlook than the series had before them.
Exactly! What really irks me is that even after everyone makes it clear they’re not on board, they all pretend like no actually everyone was on board, our show was sabotaged by some imaginary “toxic” group of people. And the people who weren’t completely aware of what was going on buy into it, and the prevailing narrative becomes, the show was a success. And because everyone thinks it was actually a success, someone else will try the same thing again, and the whole process will repeat itself.
I hate to break it to her but as a woman (a real one) who loves SciFi, Star Trek, Firefly etc and have never been an avid Star Wars fan, I went into the series with no preconceived ideas or expectations. The Acolyte was badly written, even more badly acted, it was trite and banal and seemed to take pleasure in the destruction of precious lore. It was poorly shot and dark, there was no character development or motivation for their actions. It was a compilation of loosely connected scenes that did nothing to add to the Star Wars story, only detract from it. It literally shoved the "alphabet" agenda down our throats without any relevance. The mantra was "Men bad, straight people bad, white people bad, Star Wars fans bad". It was cancelled because it was rubbish and even the much vaunted people, in the "community" didn't watch it.
All my family could understand original Star Wars. Including me Grandfather. Now I got to be gay to enjoy the movie. Because women are not important? Lea is not important? Move gone. I cried when Carrie died. I will p*ss on all the graves of new star games.
Because she's just spouting the same brainless nonsense that all woke females do. If you're a strong independent woman, you don't need no man and therefore men are the enemy. Adding women into the mix would attack her demographic. I feel sorry for anyone attached to the LTBTQ community that feels people like this are using them for their own political ends. The show was shit and full of toxic ideology (ironically the woke are some of the most toxic members of modern society). That's why it got cancelled. The sexuality or gender or ethnicity of the actors has ZERO to do with it in the minds of any normal human being.
Toxic males are to blame, and the toxic fan base is to blame, and the large silent fan base that is just afraid to speak up -- they're to blame, too. Just don't blame the writers, the producers, the directors or the actors who created the product that no one wanted to watch.
I just can't help but to remember the both of them laughing openly and proudly on that interview calling nerds gay, them having such audacity to tell us to deal with it, don't insult the fanbase. So now they got to deal with the backlash of ruining an IP just to fit an agenda. I don't care if your gay or who u choose to have sex with, what does that have to do with making a good story or making u relate to the characters!?! It was lazy writing with poor direction, simple and done
I don't understand how they thought thay was a good idea. I knew nobody would watch that when they were being so aggressive with the marketing. Clearly it drove away most fans
As a gay man, I this crap...well, crappy. What's worse is these types try to rope other LGBTQ people into this by claiming "We're speaking out for LGBTQ people!" 1. I'm a grown adult. I can and WILL state MY opinion on things, not you woke freaks or anyone else. 2. YOUR opinion is NOT MY opinion! Crash and burn, Disney.
Woke agenda ruined Disney. Them doubling down on it killed them. Star wars fan base is mostly gen x. We ain't interested in this crap. Even my Gen z kid doesn't want this crap. We wanted a fantasy to remove us from all the crap. We never wanted for them to try to push their mess on us in the guise of hiding it behind something we loved. Nobody asked for han solo to be pegged by a robot. We don't care about a world of gay witches where our jedis are the bad guys. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
I rewatched Fantasia last night, and it drove home just how far Disney has fallen. Its creativity and vision are enough to make the point, but what I was really reminded of is how Disney embraced the very best of our culture. The current Disney productions loathe our culture, and are trying to erase it as thoroughly and completely as they can.
I don't care what Stenberg has to say. She's a terrible actor and she hasn't got a clue what she's talking about. Blah, blah; blah she spouts the same crap. The show failed because of terrible writing, poor acting and poor direction. Disney cancelled the show because the vast majority of fans hated it and stopped watching after the first couple of episodes. There weren't enough of the minority who actually watched it! Stenberg and Headland are hateful narcissists who will never admit the Acolyte was garbage, period. 😡
On top of all, it's the cost $180 million. That's more than likely the other reason why they are so upset, what they got paid from that amount for something so bad, no wonder they are fighting for season 2.
The arrogance here is quite incredible. If a company were to create any other product that the public didn’t buy, it would be the company’s fault for not understanding their customers.
What they dont get is that they weren't canceled socially. They were canceled financially. It was a merit based conclusion. They are stuck on social cancelation.
There are some who are framing her as an “underpaid actress”. I got severely Downvoted on Reddit for questioning the logic in that assumption, and the proof of that statement? 180 million and she’s the main star, with TWO characters. She’s chummy and admits to being mentored by the director Leslye Headland. So how on Earth can anyone just claim that she’s underpaid.
If there was a silent majority of fans, they would have watched the show. Imagine being so arrogant that you believe you could do no wrong. Absolute clowns
I love these channels that stand up for us, the real fans. And because of these channel are forcing change. It’ll take about 2 years to be fixed since the next couple series have already been filmed. But after that we’re gonna go back to normal hopefully in the Star Wars world.
She’s a joke. As someone who is part of that population (it’s not a community) I hate that she uses that as a way to garner sympathy and uses it as a victim card. She doesn’t know what real struggle is. She embarrasses all that came before her who paved the way for us to be accepted
Here's a challenge have The Acolyte cast and crew remake this show exactly as they had been planning, but no Star Wars IP. They get full creative control and can make something fresh, with no Star Wars universe. See if you can bring your fans back.
It doesn't matter how many of them sign any petition. The same people who sign that petition are the same people who constantly scream on twitter...and both we and disney already know that those people screaming on twitter never watched the show to begin with...and aren't going to watch the shows...so they don't matter. You can have a billion people telling you they want a product, but when you make the product...none of them buy it...now you just lost a ton of money on making that product for non-existent customers. This petition is the epitome of the saying "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me". They think disney is going to throw that money in the fire a second time...when they showed disney they have no intention of buying the product already lol.
This just makes no sense, the viewership was way down compared to every other Star Wars show put out by disney. It wasn't popular, get over it and move on
They can't because they would have to admit they suck at their jobs. We all know they aren't going to take responsibility, they're strong independent women and should be praised for that. They're not just learning you have to provide something of value to be praised in society.
The people blaming it on race conveniently forget that Andor had a straight, white guy as the lead AND it had good reviews…and people didn’t watch that either!
However. I would argue that the vast majority of fans believe Andor is several runs higher in quality and a far better show than acolyte. And… Who brought up race again?
@@ScottWillover that’s my point, it’s universally regarded as a better show and it stars a straight, white guy…if we’re all “ists or phobes” then why aren’t we all watching Andor?! The truth is a lot of people are done with Star Wars either way
"It was deeply disturbing to see such a successful show not moving forward"... sweetie, if it was a "successful show," it would be moving forward - that's the very definition of a successful show. The fact that it didn't move forward means it wasn't a successful show. I think the most deeply disturbing thing here is this woman's level of delusion. Fans like what they like, and they are allowed to. The levels of delusion and narcissism, to think she has the right to tell fans what the have to like, are stratospheric.
Calling the fans (if there were any) immature for their failed series is so mature on her part. Star Wars fans don’t care about ideology, we want memorable characters and gripping storylines in a galaxy far far away
Please don't let her gaslight anyone.....The reason Acolyte and this Star Wars era is so disliked is specifically because they want to move away from "George Lucas's vision" and hold the woke agenda talk for a second and think... she talks about the "silent majority of Star Wars fans" .... Are you suggesting that the majority of "Star Wars fans" aren't there because of "George Lucas's vision" because that is just asinine...Again this is nothing against anyone being woke, its about basic logic.....
WOOOWWWWWW!!!!!! Everything else is expected but the fact that she’s gone out of her way to BLAME THE SMALL ‘SILENT FANS’ she has just goes to show how out of depth she is with reality!! 💁🏾♀️🤡🤣 How the heck do you go and hate on the tiny group of people that actually do like ur show! That’s the crazy part for me. 😲🤯
I’m rather surprised Stenberg still has the time to go after Star Wars fans this way, instead of focusing on finding a new job / dealing with the lawsuit she wants to press against Disney.
This is not about women. Women are better than this. Women are exciting. This is not about homosexuality. There are great and entertaining homosexual actors. This is not about diversity as Hollywood has always been divers. Tell me about the prince of bell air, tell me about californication, tell me about ALF. 😂😂
Because if they didn't have toxic males to blame they would have to actually admit the show was bad, and they can't do that, so they have to go back to the well for the old canned phrases.
Even Yord’s actor didn’t receive much backlash; all he did was speak on mora ambiguity and said that “Anakin blew up the Death Star”, but that’s it. Charlie Bennet didn’t go mouthing off all season (like his cast mate) and as such, none of the later backlash comes his way. Despite him being both Black and homosexual, why aren’t the “toxic fans” coming for any of the other cast members for their identities??? Because it’s not a factor.
Amanda Stemblerg throwing a tantrum is just exquisite. She talks about those Star Wars fans that didn’t talk to defend the show, apparently they also didn’t watch the show. Because its cancelation was a business decision.
obviously she doesnt understand business and betting. They attacked existing customers overestimating the interest of their target audience and their ability to write something other than self-insert mary sue fan fiction, and in the end it was a commercial failure. There is no silent majority, there is no one to judge them watching in their own home, no one to stop from watching, but no one wanted to, it was hot garbage and hostile to the existing fanbase and existing customers. Demanding privilege, gaslighting on the agenda and the open misandry and hatred for the original creation. Leslie doesnt have enough talent to write her own hit space saga, instead having to destroy star wars from pure spite and jealousy. RIP Acolyte, and bye bye Leslie, I will be avoiding all of yours and Stenberg's projects. I will not feed demons who hate me for existing and cannot tell a story, just regurgitate propaganda messaging.
Soneone needs to explain to Ms Stenberg that since they're begging the fans to save " The Acolyte", insulting and abusing them is not the way to go. If she's trying to appeal to "the silent majority", she needn't bother, they couldn't be bothered to watch it either.
Love it or hate it, "toxic fans" are the ones who will dish out the most money to support the franchise. Might as well cater to them. Pissing them off isn't the right move.
I think she takes everything personally. The same way she did in the beginning mentioning racist comments, when all people did was express they were displeased with the show overall and her lame characters.
Loud voices? Or the fans that don’t like what you like. Just because you made it doesn’t mean anyone has to watch it. I guess Hollywood forgot that fans pay the bills.
From the clips of "The Acolyte" that I saw, the show appeared: * grim * tragic * uninteresting * unfocused Even if critics had recommended it, it still wouldn't have been for me. Even a well-written gloomy tragedy should have uplifting moments, and there weren't really any mentioned.
There's a huge difference between, saying "I don't like the story because it's boring, the actors can't act, and it's a bizarre twist on Star Wars that isn't written well enough to make me want to watch," and saying "I don't' like the story because the main characters are gay." I only hear the former statement, and not the latter.
Anybody would have to be stupid and hate money to hire this girl for any other project. Like Ziegler, she just can't keep her mouth shut and that is always a show/movie killer.
Is it just me or does it feel like whenever Iger, Kennedy, Stenberg, or literally anyone at Disney that lashes out at people say the same thing every time? They always start with the same thing "As CEO it is my responsibility...[blah blah blah]" "As one who is part of the LBGTQ community...[blah blah blah]". It's like they're so burnt out of creativity that they can't even make statements without barfing out the same thing over and over.
Sounds like a weak excuse for poor acting, poor script writing and poor direction. When has it been okay to blame the punters for not getting what they want. Delusional with capital D
Star wars has no sexuality maybe a kiss on the cheek or on the lips one time in 3 movies !!!! Star wars has no pronouns or lgbtq BS !!!! And they don't like it and they think there's some conspiracy out there to get them this is a joke !!!! They just can't get over that all this stuff is bad and the last decent Star wars TV show was the child !!! And let's not forget you show me one Star wars fan that asked for any of this stuff ????? You won't find one 😮
Do these people actually understand that this will haunt their lives and their careers going forward into the future and some of them will probably not be hired again to do movies or TV shows or anything else and I don’t see how they’re going to try to defend their actions when Their past will definitely come up to be judged and some of them won’t be able to get work again because this will be the career destroying that they participated in even if they’re young and stupid they know better and this will probably be on the Internet forever even if they delete it it’s still going to be on the Internet. And this is a number of reasons not to be an idiot and do stupid things that can literally destroy your career even if you don’t have one😅
A "diverse" cast and leftist ideology does not automatically make a great product; it's quite the opposite. They tried to appeal to the small minority of rainbow rejects who don't even like Star Wars and still wonder why it failed. Really hope there is a hostile takeover at Disney so they can get back to their roots of making great stories.
We had to move on from George Lucas because his vision of Star Wars isn’t relevant anymore? Lucas’s version of Star Wars remains more popular than anything. Disney has put out or produced in the years since they took over the brand. What in the world is this person talking about?
I’m really tired of people playing the “minority” card (which apparently includes LGB, but I wouldn’t consider us a minority these days) as an excuse for bad acting, poor business decisions, etc. Bad acting is bad acting regardless of who you are, and fans are going to call it out without regard for the actor’s personal life… bc at the end of the day that shit doesn’t matter.
Ive come to the conclusion that them saying we hate diversity is just them saying that bad writing is diversity. We should be okay with bad writing because not every writing is good and we should contribute to the equitable society by giving people we hate our money to. Cause this show is just bad.
Let's face it. The acolyte didn't suffer representation. It suffered bad writing and even though I didn't see it, just reading the summary of each episode is more than enough to let me know that this is one terrible show with bad writing. Also, dissing the original creator of Star Wars is more than enough to set fans off. George Lucas made this show with his vision and it was his vision that everyone loved. Now they're claiming that George Lucas' vision is not only no longer relevant but also their vision now. Die-sney longer cares about how their show turns out as long as they can make a quick buck while putting in as much representation as possible. I miss the days when Disney didn't care about representation and made actually good movies like Big Hero 6. Now all I see is a corporation that has no vision or respect for anyone that isn't part of the "majority" that they like to entertain so much.
When you try to retcon the entire lore just to push your agenda, no one’s going to watch or like it let alone pay for it. You can have your beliefs and opinions but keep them out of a FANTASY that many people have enjoyed long before this nonsense existed
😂😂 Amandla thinks the purpose of creating TV shows and movies should be advancing whatever personal politics the creators and actors like. No, Amandla, the purpose of you and the writers and everyone substantially involved is to CREATE AN INTERESTING STORY.
If there really was a large silent majority of fans it would show in the viewing figures, the truth is that they're not making a show that has mass appeal, and by most accounts, they're making it badly
"Fake review from fake fans" for a fake star wars. This isn't Star Wars. "she represents a modern woman not like George Lucas time" Well this takes place in a galaxy from a long time ago.Thats the problem, your characters don't fit in Star Wars
They crack me up calling people "Fake fans". So if I don't like YOUR show I'm a fake fan of the ENTIRE genre? I'm just not a fan of your crap. Nothing FAKE about that.
Fans, like fans of every media, will always create some backlash due to changes to the formula, but when it is done terribly coupled with toxic defensiveness from the content creators, the backlash is justified. There is a reason this is the most poorly rated show and it isn’t prejudice white males. I will give them this though. The biggest haters of Star Wars are its fans. I grew up with the prequels and if Darth Jar Jar was Lucas’ intention, I will never forgive him for not going with it and never forgive the “fans” that pressured him with their backlash.
There are 1,000,000 better actresses that could have done an amazing job! This so called actress has no talent! My dog would have done a better job than 90% of the cast.
Acting isnt hard At all Its scarcity that keeps the worst of us enamored of their banal diversions and gives power to the worst amongst us Romans treated them how they should be treated, like gutter dwellers and weirdos
Stenberg, Headland, and Kennedy's use of the term "toxic fans" is their attempt to frame and limit discussion. People have a right to spend their money any way they want to, and if a Lucasfilm product is perceived to be subpar, Disney's customers aren't going to pay for it.
Preach
Hey now, your proper application of free market theory is extremely bigoted
*arm flapping intensifies*
Of course. It’s sad
No one complained when Solo kinda failed. But Solo made money. The blame was put where it was. Better movies others wanted to see. It happens. And yea I like Solo better now than even then. Proof to some folks just like Star Wars and the story line. So much could have been done.
Someone tell her that the fans that were teenagers back in 77 are still alive and spending money.
My parents will never take our kids to see Disney, ever, after this mess with these horrible people! We will never take them to see Disney again unless they fire all these wack jobs and bring on talented non-woke people directors and actresses! They don’t even know how to act!
They are all insane, the level of Narcissism is on a whole new level
Someone who is not even a fan calling out people for being a fake fan is crazy.
I doubt this lady was even a fan before she acted in the Acolyte...Oops, sorry, it is not a lady.
We now live in an age where young activists in the entertainment industry will attack long time fans of great franchises for not liking what they made and never take responsibility for the fact that they failed.
A silent majority? She is delusional.
i know when was 18% a majority.
she is very delusional and doesnt have a clue and self absorbed.
@@robertharrison1058 woke math
Why didn't that majority watch the show?! Who held them back?! Why didn't they show up?! Anyway, I guess its easier to blame the non-existent as they cannot fight back...
I like the way she likes mentioning these non-existent entities. The fake reviewers and the secret fanbase. It's ridiculous
"It's the most childish behavior shown by toxic fans ..." says the woman who put out a diss track. 🙄🤦♀️
Exactly what I thought I'm sure she also said it wouldn't change anyone's lives so who cares then she goes and does that lmao
Everything coming out of KK, Amandla, Leslye, etc, seems to come down to, "Look, we want to change this franchise into something completely different that reflects our worldview, and how DARE you not be on board with that." That's it. Truly. It's a temper tantrum that people aren't okay with them changing the nature of Star Wars to something that reflects a completely different outlook than the series had before them.
Exactly! What really irks me is that even after everyone makes it clear they’re not on board, they all pretend like no actually everyone was on board, our show was sabotaged by some imaginary “toxic” group of people. And the people who weren’t completely aware of what was going on buy into it, and the prevailing narrative becomes, the show was a success. And because everyone thinks it was actually a success, someone else will try the same thing again, and the whole process will repeat itself.
They told me that this show was not made for me as a traditional fan. Then they call me a bigot for not watching it. I'm confused.
It’s not a show for anyone
Right?
I hate to break it to her but as a woman (a real one) who loves SciFi, Star Trek, Firefly etc and have never been an avid Star Wars fan, I went into the series with no preconceived ideas or expectations. The Acolyte was badly written, even more badly acted, it was trite and banal and seemed to take pleasure in the destruction of precious lore. It was poorly shot and dark, there was no character development or motivation for their actions. It was a compilation of loosely connected scenes that did nothing to add to the Star Wars story, only detract from it. It literally shoved the "alphabet" agenda down our throats without any relevance. The mantra was "Men bad, straight people bad, white people bad, Star Wars fans bad". It was cancelled because it was rubbish and even the much vaunted people, in the "community" didn't watch it.
Our family is a Star Wars family. We keep Disney plus just for Star Wars. We didn’t even bother watching one episode of this woke crap.
It’s not even that woke, it’s just bad
All my family could understand original Star Wars. Including me Grandfather. Now I got to be gay to enjoy the movie. Because women are not important? Lea is not important? Move gone. I cried when Carrie died. I will p*ss on all the graves of new star games.
Is it just George Lucas' classic Star Wars (including the prequels), or it also includes Disney Star Wars (excluding The Acolyte) as well?
Yes, just pay for the subscription and don't watch their film, that will show them
I quit disney+ because of star wars.
Bad carpenters blame their tools , bad Hollywood projects blame the fans/consumers
Amandla is so silly it hurts. What nonsense.
Starting when xhe calls xerself an actress.
Silly isn't the word.... It starts with the letter "C" and ends with an "UNT" in Capitol letters.....
“Toxic males”… Why is she acting like there isn’t women who dislike this show too 😂
Apparently women are saints that can do no wrong
Doesn’t work with their narrative
Because it would make her argument void and her head would explode in confusion😂
Comes to a male space and asks why they don't like her vision which is the furthest thing from their world view.
Because she's just spouting the same brainless nonsense that all woke females do. If you're a strong independent woman, you don't need no man and therefore men are the enemy. Adding women into the mix would attack her demographic. I feel sorry for anyone attached to the LTBTQ community that feels people like this are using them for their own political ends. The show was shit and full of toxic ideology (ironically the woke are some of the most toxic members of modern society). That's why it got cancelled. The sexuality or gender or ethnicity of the actors has ZERO to do with it in the minds of any normal human being.
Toxic males are to blame, and the toxic fan base is to blame, and the large silent fan base that is just afraid to speak up -- they're to blame, too. Just don't blame the writers, the producers, the directors or the actors who created the product that no one wanted to watch.
I just can't help but to remember the both of them laughing openly and proudly on that interview calling nerds gay, them having such audacity to tell us to deal with it, don't insult the fanbase. So now they got to deal with the backlash of ruining an IP just to fit an agenda. I don't care if your gay or who u choose to have sex with, what does that have to do with making a good story or making u relate to the characters!?! It was lazy writing with poor direction, simple and done
I don't understand how they thought thay was a good idea. I knew nobody would watch that when they were being so aggressive with the marketing. Clearly it drove away most fans
As a gay man, I this crap...well, crappy. What's worse is these types try to rope other LGBTQ people into this by claiming "We're speaking out for LGBTQ people!"
1. I'm a grown adult. I can and WILL state MY opinion on things, not you woke freaks or anyone else.
2. YOUR opinion is NOT MY opinion!
Crash and burn, Disney.
Cackling, even.
Disney killed star wars 😢
GEORGE KILLED STAR WARS WHEN HE SOLD IT TO DISNEY.
@@tpmdenjiGeorge right now to Disney whilst clasping millions of dollars in his hand: "you.. didn't kill..star wars, I DID"
@@tpmdenji he shouldn't have sold it
Woke agenda ruined Disney. Them doubling down on it killed them.
Star wars fan base is mostly gen x. We ain't interested in this crap. Even my Gen z kid doesn't want this crap. We wanted a fantasy to remove us from all the crap. We never wanted for them to try to push their mess on us in the guise of hiding it behind something we loved. Nobody asked for han solo to be pegged by a robot. We don't care about a world of gay witches where our jedis are the bad guys. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
And Amazon is killing the lord of the rings.
That silent majority that didn't watch it? If they did, the view statistics would show that.
The lol part is they think we actually care about their feelings and opinions.
If Disney wants to keep losing $$$ ain’t no one stopping them.
Just free entertainment as schadenfreude for us. 🍿
Let Disney go broke
I rewatched Fantasia last night, and it drove home just how far Disney has fallen. Its creativity and vision are enough to make the point, but what I was really reminded of is how Disney embraced the very best of our culture. The current Disney productions loathe our culture, and are trying to erase it as thoroughly and completely as they can.
What fans are they attacking, they have none and pushed away the very last of star wars fans 😂😂😂
That meme of that one dude talking to a wall
Did you hear the part where she Leslie mentioned the "secret fanbase"
I don't care what Stenberg has to say. She's a terrible actor and she hasn't got a clue what she's talking about. Blah, blah; blah she spouts the same crap. The show failed because of terrible writing, poor acting and poor direction. Disney cancelled the show because the vast majority of fans hated it and stopped watching after the first couple of episodes. There weren't enough of the minority who actually watched it! Stenberg and Headland are hateful narcissists who will never admit the Acolyte was garbage, period. 😡
On top of all, it's the cost $180 million. That's more than likely the other reason why they are so upset, what they got paid from that amount for something so bad, no wonder they are fighting for season 2.
The arrogance here is quite incredible. If a company were to create any other product that the public didn’t buy, it would be the company’s fault for not understanding their customers.
What they dont get is that they weren't canceled socially. They were canceled financially. It was a merit based conclusion.
They are stuck on social cancelation.
It's pretty ironic how she set up her own show for failure.
She's not good at her real job, but she can blame others for her bad acting
What do they want? Their candy back? No, they won’t get their candy back. Canceling this bullshit was like taking candy from a baby 😂😂😂
Amandla is your typical REGGIN 😅
Yup that’s right, read that work backwards and that describes her to a T😅
Don't give Disney another CENT of your money
She Is just pissed cuz she lost millions of dollars in her firing
There are some who are framing her as an “underpaid actress”. I got severely Downvoted on Reddit for questioning the logic in that assumption, and the proof of that statement? 180 million and she’s the main star, with TWO characters. She’s chummy and admits to being mentored by the director Leslye Headland. So how on Earth can anyone just claim that she’s underpaid.
Your first problem was you were on Reddit
and fear not she is still an oppressed multimillionaire
@@anthonya2169 EXACTLY. Reddit is the safe haven for killjoys and pissy blankets. They'll tear down anyone who disagrees with the most liked comment.
5:42 She’s not wanted. People don’t want her. We are not a problem. Go away.
If there was a silent majority of fans, they would have watched the show. Imagine being so arrogant that you believe you could do no wrong. Absolute clowns
They're yelling in an empty room.
A self made echo chamber. These people have talked to themselves so long that they actually think the echo is sentient.
Stenberg keeps raising the delusional bar higher and higher
The biggest delusion is that the actual fans of the Acolyte, the screeching SJW's, are ever "silent".
I love these channels that stand up for us, the real fans. And because of these channel are forcing change. It’ll take about 2 years to be fixed since the next couple series have already been filmed. But after that we’re gonna go back to normal hopefully in the Star Wars world.
She’s a joke. As someone who is part of that population (it’s not a community) I hate that she uses that as a way to garner sympathy and uses it as a victim card. She doesn’t know what real struggle is. She embarrasses all that came before her who paved the way for us to be accepted
Here's a challenge have The Acolyte cast and crew remake this show exactly as they had been planning, but no Star Wars IP. They get full creative control and can make something fresh, with no Star Wars universe. See if you can bring your fans back.
Let it die
Yeah, screaming like a giant baby, insulting your fans, and insulting your paycheck cutters is a great way to get your job back....
It doesn't matter how many of them sign any petition. The same people who sign that petition are the same people who constantly scream on twitter...and both we and disney already know that those people screaming on twitter never watched the show to begin with...and aren't going to watch the shows...so they don't matter. You can have a billion people telling you they want a product, but when you make the product...none of them buy it...now you just lost a ton of money on making that product for non-existent customers. This petition is the epitome of the saying "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me". They think disney is going to throw that money in the fire a second time...when they showed disney they have no intention of buying the product already lol.
I don't think I'll ever watch another Star Wars show and movie again... George Lucas shouldn't have given his company away like that to these people
Neither should marvel or fox.
@@ChristopherPortorreal-ol2mj I completely agree with you as well, but Ryan Reynolds did nail Deadpool and Wolverine
@@JustaUser82nd some companies are better off out of Disneys hands
This just makes no sense, the viewership was way down compared to every other Star Wars show put out by disney. It wasn't popular, get over it and move on
All most like there running a business and Disney gave them 180 million dollars chance to start there new fan base, and they failed.
They can't because they would have to admit they suck at their jobs. We all know they aren't going to take responsibility, they're strong independent women and should be praised for that. They're not just learning you have to provide something of value to be praised in society.
We should make a diss track on how our goal is to make her feel uncomfortable 😂
Why is EVERYTHING today about race!?!?!!?? The show simply sucked! FULL STOP!!!
The people blaming it on race conveniently forget that Andor had a straight, white guy as the lead AND it had good reviews…and people didn’t watch that either!
However. I would argue that the vast majority of fans believe Andor is several runs higher in quality and a far better show than acolyte.
And… Who brought up race again?
@@ScottWillover that’s my point, it’s universally regarded as a better show and it stars a straight, white guy…if we’re all “ists or phobes” then why aren’t we all watching Andor?! The truth is a lot of people are done with Star Wars either way
Because thats all these people have for identity. They're morally bankrupt and have no character beyond their skin color and being a victim.
Nice of her to admit "The Acolyte" was always meant as a sick SJW political project and never as a show meant to entertain one and all.
"It was deeply disturbing to see such a successful show not moving forward"... sweetie, if it was a "successful show," it would be moving forward - that's the very definition of a successful show. The fact that it didn't move forward means it wasn't a successful show.
I think the most deeply disturbing thing here is this woman's level of delusion. Fans like what they like, and they are allowed to. The levels of delusion and narcissism, to think she has the right to tell fans what the have to like, are stratospheric.
The silent majority didn't even watch it 🤣
Calling the fans (if there were any) immature for their failed series is so mature on her part. Star Wars fans don’t care about ideology, we want memorable characters and gripping storylines in a galaxy far far away
Please don't let her gaslight anyone.....The reason Acolyte and this Star Wars era is so disliked is specifically because they want to move away from "George Lucas's vision" and hold the woke agenda talk for a second and think... she talks about the "silent majority of Star Wars fans" .... Are you suggesting that the majority of "Star Wars fans" aren't there because of "George Lucas's vision" because that is just asinine...Again this is nothing against anyone being woke, its about basic logic.....
WOOOWWWWWW!!!!!! Everything else is expected but the fact that she’s gone out of her way to BLAME THE SMALL ‘SILENT FANS’ she has just goes to show how out of depth she is with reality!! 💁🏾♀️🤡🤣
How the heck do you go and hate on the tiny group of people that actually do like ur show! That’s the crazy part for me. 😲🤯
She's destroying her own career. I doubt any studios will hire her after this
bob eiger couldnt run a fkin bath
I’m rather surprised Stenberg still has the time to go after Star Wars fans this way, instead of focusing on finding a new job / dealing with the lawsuit she wants to press against Disney.
"How dare you dislike what I produce! Don't you understand I am a protected class of person?"
"Nobody cares that you're a protected class of person, Amandla, it's just that your show sucks, and your acting is awful 👎👎👎"
This is not about women. Women are better than this. Women are exciting. This is not about homosexuality. There are great and entertaining homosexual actors. This is not about diversity as Hollywood has always been divers. Tell me about the prince of bell air, tell me about californication, tell me about ALF. 😂😂
well put! amandla was born with a silver spoon in her mouth and just wants to be a victim
Talk about John Wick 2. The actress who played Ares did a great job.
Because if they didn't have toxic males to blame they would have to actually admit the show was bad, and they can't do that, so they have to go back to the well for the old canned phrases.
I hope asian market starts to reject this Hollywood diversity crap and woke woke crap.
Even Yord’s actor didn’t receive much backlash; all he did was speak on mora ambiguity and said that “Anakin blew up the Death Star”, but that’s it. Charlie Bennet didn’t go mouthing off all season (like his cast mate) and as such, none of the later backlash comes his way. Despite him being both Black and homosexual, why aren’t the “toxic fans” coming for any of the other cast members for their identities??? Because it’s not a factor.
Stenberg was hired simply for her political views and it's backfired spectacularly. That diss track should ruin her career.
She and her attitude are the ones who are toxic
Amanda Stemblerg throwing a tantrum is just exquisite. She talks about those Star Wars fans that didn’t talk to defend the show, apparently they also didn’t watch the show. Because its cancelation was a business decision.
When ever I have to listen to a quote from Stenberg, Kennedy or Headland.
It feels like someone is sticking nails in my ears.
obviously she doesnt understand business and betting. They attacked existing customers overestimating the interest of their target audience and their ability to write something other than self-insert mary sue fan fiction, and in the end it was a commercial failure. There is no silent majority, there is no one to judge them watching in their own home, no one to stop from watching, but no one wanted to, it was hot garbage and hostile to the existing fanbase and existing customers. Demanding privilege, gaslighting on the agenda and the open misandry and hatred for the original creation. Leslie doesnt have enough talent to write her own hit space saga, instead having to destroy star wars from pure spite and jealousy. RIP Acolyte, and bye bye Leslie, I will be avoiding all of yours and Stenberg's projects. I will not feed demons who hate me for existing and cannot tell a story, just regurgitate propaganda messaging.
Soneone needs to explain to Ms Stenberg that since they're begging the fans to save " The Acolyte", insulting and abusing them is not the way to go.
If she's trying to appeal to "the silent majority", she needn't bother, they couldn't be bothered to watch it either.
Go write another cringe diss track! 😂😂
But they so bored they don't f' with our discourse. Guess she'll be even more bored out of work lol what a Neo-Marxist clown
Oh God no, please, anything but; Lord have mercy! May the Apocalypse redeem us from that.
Im black. I hated the crapolyte. Am i racist too???🙆🏾♂️🙆🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🙄😮💨🥹🥹🥹
According to DEI since you are black you are not racist but you hate gays 😂😂😂
They think success is entitled to them based on skin color instead of great storytelling. Disney is in big time trouble.
Love it or hate it, "toxic fans" are the ones who will dish out the most money to support the franchise. Might as well cater to them. Pissing them off isn't the right move.
The characters were non-binary, I had no idea. Whether that was true or not doesn't change the fact that this show sucked.
I think she takes everything personally. The same way she did in the beginning mentioning racist comments, when all people did was express they were displeased with the show overall and her lame characters.
Narcissists. Mad at us because we don't like crap.
This admittedly fan fiction derived mess should have stayed on tumblr.
Disney/Lucas Films have said this show wasn’t made for men. So why are they blaming us for NOT watching?
Loud voices? Or the fans that don’t like what you like. Just because you made it doesn’t mean anyone has to watch it. I guess Hollywood forgot that fans pay the bills.
From the clips of "The Acolyte" that I saw, the show appeared:
* grim
* tragic
* uninteresting
* unfocused
Even if critics had recommended it, it still wouldn't have been for me. Even a well-written gloomy tragedy should have uplifting moments, and there weren't really any mentioned.
There's a huge difference between, saying "I don't like the story because it's boring, the actors can't act, and it's a bizarre twist on Star Wars that isn't written well enough to make me want to watch," and saying "I don't' like the story because the main characters are gay." I only hear the former statement, and not the latter.
Anybody would have to be stupid and hate money to hire this girl for any other project. Like Ziegler, she just can't keep her mouth shut and that is always a show/movie killer.
Toxic feminism is what ruined Star Wars,not the male fan base who hold true to the vision that is real Star Wars George Lucas's Star Wars.
Attacking fans seems to be her specialty.. It's probably not a good thing to do for a talentless actress.
Is it just me or does it feel like whenever Iger, Kennedy, Stenberg, or literally anyone at Disney that lashes out at people say the same thing every time? They always start with the same thing "As CEO it is my responsibility...[blah blah blah]" "As one who is part of the LBGTQ community...[blah blah blah]".
It's like they're so burnt out of creativity that they can't even make statements without barfing out the same thing over and over.
Sounds like a weak excuse for poor acting, poor script writing and poor direction. When has it been okay to blame the punters for not getting what they want. Delusional with capital D
Star wars has no sexuality maybe a kiss on the cheek or on the lips one time in 3 movies !!!! Star wars has no pronouns or lgbtq BS !!!! And they don't like it and they think there's some conspiracy out there to get them this is a joke !!!! They just can't get over that all this stuff is bad and the last decent Star wars TV show was the child !!! And let's not forget you show me one Star wars fan that asked for any of this stuff ????? You won't find one 😮
Do these people actually understand that this will haunt their lives and their careers going forward into the future and some of them will probably not be hired again to do movies or TV shows or anything else and I don’t see how they’re going to try to defend their actions when Their past will definitely come up to be judged and some of them won’t be able to get work again because this will be the career destroying that they participated in even if they’re young and stupid they know better and this will probably be on the Internet forever even if they delete it it’s still going to be on the Internet. And this is a number of reasons not to be an idiot and do stupid things that can literally destroy your career even if you don’t have one😅
A "diverse" cast and leftist ideology does not automatically make a great product; it's quite the opposite. They tried to appeal to the small minority of rainbow rejects who don't even like Star Wars and still wonder why it failed. Really hope there is a hostile takeover at Disney so they can get back to their roots of making great stories.
Willow this trash project ... Let it be forgotten, let it be unmourned
Her last name ends with berg? Like Caryn Whoopi Goldberg
Must be Brazilian
Rich white daddy.
@@I_Art_Laughing 🤷♂️/🤷 "wyte"?
@@I_Art_Laughing ryTe?
@@I_Art_Laughing ryTe?
Try not creating a story to fulfill an agenda. Just tell a goddamn story. Everything else follows.
We had to move on from George Lucas because his vision of Star Wars isn’t relevant anymore? Lucas’s version of Star Wars remains more popular than anything. Disney has put out or produced in the years since they took over the brand. What in the world is this person talking about?
They all say the same thing. Blame the fans. The same fans that they are paid millions of dollars to entertain, not humiliate.
Boo Hoo Hoo! Stenberg why don't you go to your safe room and throw your temper tantrum. Because we don't care!!!!!!!!!!! That's Hollywood baby.
I’m really tired of people playing the “minority” card (which apparently includes LGB, but I wouldn’t consider us a minority these days) as an excuse for bad acting, poor business decisions, etc. Bad acting is bad acting regardless of who you are, and fans are going to call it out without regard for the actor’s personal life… bc at the end of the day that shit doesn’t matter.
Ive come to the conclusion that them saying we hate diversity is just them saying that bad writing is diversity. We should be okay with bad writing because not every writing is good and we should contribute to the equitable society by giving people we hate our money to. Cause this show is just bad.
Let's face it. The acolyte didn't suffer representation. It suffered bad writing and even though I didn't see it, just reading the summary of each episode is more than enough to let me know that this is one terrible show with bad writing. Also, dissing the original creator of Star Wars is more than enough to set fans off. George Lucas made this show with his vision and it was his vision that everyone loved. Now they're claiming that George Lucas' vision is not only no longer relevant but also their vision now. Die-sney longer cares about how their show turns out as long as they can make a quick buck while putting in as much representation as possible. I miss the days when Disney didn't care about representation and made actually good movies like Big Hero 6. Now all I see is a corporation that has no vision or respect for anyone that isn't part of the "majority" that they like to entertain so much.
When you try to retcon the entire lore just to push your agenda, no one’s going to watch or like it let alone pay for it.
You can have your beliefs and opinions but keep them out of a FANTASY that many people have enjoyed long before this nonsense existed
😂😂 Amandla thinks the purpose of creating TV shows and movies should be advancing whatever personal politics the creators and actors like. No, Amandla, the purpose of you and the writers and everyone substantially involved is to CREATE AN INTERESTING STORY.
If there really was a large silent majority of fans it would show in the viewing figures, the truth is that they're not making a show that has mass appeal, and by most accounts, they're making it badly
Sounds like she’s mad about being irrelevant. Blaming the fan base for the bad acting and writing 😂 I’m shocked 😮
A “Silent Fan Base” that doesn’t watch the show or spend their money 😂
They are as delusional as the WNBA 😂
"Fake review from fake fans" for a fake star wars. This isn't Star Wars.
"she represents a modern woman not like George Lucas time" Well this takes place in a galaxy from a long time ago.Thats the problem, your characters don't fit in Star Wars
They crack me up calling people "Fake fans". So if I don't like YOUR show I'm a fake fan of the ENTIRE genre? I'm just not a fan of your crap. Nothing FAKE about that.
Fans, like fans of every media, will always create some backlash due to changes to the formula, but when it is done terribly coupled with toxic defensiveness from the content creators, the backlash is justified. There is a reason this is the most poorly rated show and it isn’t prejudice white males. I will give them this though. The biggest haters of Star Wars are its fans. I grew up with the prequels and if Darth Jar Jar was Lucas’ intention, I will never forgive him for not going with it and never forgive the “fans” that pressured him with their backlash.
They literally called it the gayest Star Wars ever. Now they are mad that it is canceled. That's pretty Gay.
These are some arrogant people, aren’t they?
"We want white people to cry..." Amandla Stenberg on creating The Acolyte
That was for "The Hate You Give", not "The Acolyte"
There are 1,000,000 better actresses that could have done an amazing job! This so called actress has no talent! My dog would have done a better job than 90% of the cast.
Acting isnt hard
At all
Its scarcity that keeps the worst of us enamored of their banal diversions and gives power to the worst amongst us
Romans treated them how they should be treated, like gutter dwellers and weirdos