It always crashes due to engine oil leaks. It would be safer to drive a car then in a unsafe, unreliable and cracks in half every 100 flights. I would rather fly in a boat or something. Or even a CRJ700 would be nice
That was great and really funny! Even though they had an unintended dual engine failure, there certainly would have been value in letting the F/O take her in as far as possible (before imminent impact). But hey, great fun nonetheless!
+Adritho Zaifar Neither Boeing, Airbus or other manufacturers have procedures when it comes to dual engine failure on takeoff. It is considered to never happen due to the reliability of the engines. And because of weight, speed and low altitude there is no time to do anything but to slam it on the remaining runway i guess.
+Travis Nelson What you wrote doesnt make any sence. This is a video showcasing the CRM cockpit procedures if an engine fail. I said there is no procedures if there is a dual engine failure during rotation (No QRH procedures) like they guy said "What if both engine fail when it rotates?" I said, there are no procedures for that kind of situation because you simply dont have any time. You are left with the skill and experience of flying the aircraft.
+spiff3n You are both right to some extent. There's no procedure in the manual because there's no time to work on it. But there's still training for total power failure. Two engines out and no APU running at low speed isn't even going to leave the RAT as an option so you'd have to hope the engines are still in one piece and you can run the hydraulics off their residual energy while you pick the least bad place to crash. If you suffered catastrophic failure of both engines just after Vr you may have what's left in the accumulator and not much else.
+cageordie If i remember correctly from my ATPL studies in Airframes and Systems there was mentioned in the hydraulics chapter that there are reservoirs that are being pressureized once the engine starts. They store hydraulic fluid under pressure and is activated if there is insufficient pressure in the system. I dont know how long or how much you can use it. (suppose it is only being "drained" when flight controls are being used) I guess there are regulations as to how much or how long this must be available, for example a total power loss from cruise you should still manage to have enough hydraulic power to fly safely down and land.
Thanks. Quite an amusing event. Two minds might think alike, but also dissimilarly at the same time. BTW: A small corrective amendment might be wise in the dialogue panel above: "..the right engine to fail at 80 knots...". Cheers.
It's funny enough that they failed both engines. If this really happened, you're screwed, just crash straight ahead and hope most people survive. If you loose both engines below 3000ft you're screwed.
@@_Andrew2002 Scandinavian Airlines 751 suffered dual-engine failure caused by massive ice ingestion into the engines shortly after take-off, and all on board survived. It all depends on speed, lift, and control surface operation. And a pinch of good luck to augument the flight crew's experience.
Dual engine failure on takeoff is not necessarily death to everyone. The drill is to fly the plane, keep the wings level, and fly straight ahead picking your least disastrous landing point. Why not laugh? It is going to help you relax and think more clearly.
I really can't appreciate the way they handles this. The purpose of sim time is to practice what can occur in real life. Why not continue and practice the crash landing and then have a laugh after a debrief. I don't know may have been pointless. Just thinking aloud.
+uriahms I get what you are saying and i would have prefered to see them continue as well (just to see what happens). The simulator registers every crash the same, so there is no reliable way to grade it and identify ways to improve. When it comes to crashing the aircraft into the small valley past the end of the runway (R16 at YMML) there will be no correct way to do it other than obviously slowing down as much as possible before hand
+Jamenator1 True. Two crashes come to mind. Air Midwest 5481 and BA 38. In both crashes there was nothing the crew could do but they did take action that saved lives. I just thought they would have still made an attempt at minimizing damage as much as they could and laugh about it later.
uriahms the reason for that is possibly that they were not doing any specific training at the time, it was just spare sim time so they may have just been having a bit of fun anyway, pilots quite often muck around with spare sim time. In that case they paused it coz there it is very obvious what is going to happen, and really nothing they can consciously do to change the outcome, it would be mainly based on luck, and the outcome (extent of the damage) would be a total unknown because the sim doesn't simulate an impact sequence. So it was probably of no benefit to run it anyhow, but it would have been interesting to see how fast they went off the end. Midwest 5481 there was nothing really they could do, similar to this situation. BA38, they just had to clear the fence, so good airmanship got them over. In this case it doesn't matter what they do, they are going into a valley at very high speed and full of fuel
Rotating with dual engine failure at rotating speed will end in a crash no matter what, also that was not the purpose of this training, it was actually only meant for one engine to fail so that the guy flying, on the right, would rotate, lift off and safely land again, you can't do that when you lose both engines at rotation, you're most likely going to either die, at best survive the crash. The funny thing about all of this was that the guy on the left took it upon himself to fail the engine manually, but he failed the left engine when it already was programmed in the sim that the right engine was gonna fail slightly after V1. All in all it was poor communication, the whole ''manually failing the engine'' was a funny and bootleg way of failing an engine, if a pilot actually did that in real life he'd be suicidal or a psychopath. As said that Captain on the left manually shut off the engine because he didn't know that it was already going to be simulated in the right engine.
+Mir “Videostudio Mir” studio The worst time for a second engine failure? At V1 is worst case for one. after Vr is really bad, but from then on depends on where the nearest soft spot is. And whether you can reach it.
I see a lot of "well what if this happened in real life" type comments, followed by "its impossible" type replies. I would prefer to say "its highly unlikely" rather than impossible. Lets not forget the titanic was unsinkable... That said, one thing that IS impossible is to prepare for EVERY possible situation. Theres a virtually in infinite amount of ways something can fail, and we can mitigate them to a point, but eventually you reach a point of diminishing returns. Basically, if you never want to be on an airplane that can crash, dont fly. Course, you can still get hit on the ground by a plane that does crash so....
@@outwiththem while I'm inherently biased in wanting to agree with my own comment, I'm curious... what exactly is incorrect? The claimed ubsinkability of the titanic? The impossibility to prepare for everything? Or the possibility of getting hit by a plane on the ground? I got Wikipedia and Google links on standby and eagerly await your response!
When i was a DC3 copilot, the PF also handled the throttles. PM only put hand behind throttles, trim them and monitor gauges and instruments.. And DC3's have heavy controls. WTF. It is like PF is not in control of throttles too. This make very Weak pilots that can only do limited piloting and depends on a helper to fly.
I feel little uncomfortable knowing those two little black switchers are so close to their human hands during the take off and stumble to them over our own death ... mmh Engineering 100/100
M Don't worry, it's not that easy to move. You have to pull the switch first and then lower it to the cutoff position. It's not like "oops I put my arm on the switches and the engines are now dead". Also, I'm not aware of a crash that happened because someone shut down the engines on takeoff.
icyacdc The guy on the left took it upon himself to simulate an engine failure by shutting off the fuel to the engine. 1:07. What he didn't know was the guy running the sim, who is sitting behind them on a computer, had already programmed an engine failure on the other engine 1:13. At the beginning it said they had some free time and were just messing around that's why they were laughing and not taking it so serious.
Me lembrou o acidente da TransAsia com um ATR-72-600, 1 dos motores falharam logo após a decolagem, o comandante então o desligou para evitar um possivel incendio, só que ele desligou o motor errado, desligou o outro motor que estava funcionando perfeitamente, resultado falha dos 2 motores e crash total.
Ma Fer It's a sim and you can see they have some fun in there. They wouldn't laugh nor stop the whole plane in the air if that would've happened in real life. You people are unbelievable...
Is this a game to them? Extremely unprofessional. If if happens to them in real life, do they plan on yelling "stop" and bursting out laughing as well?
It explains in the description. They had set Engine 2 to fail after V1, and Ken (In the captains seat) didn't know. Decided he would do a manual failure by shutting down Engine 1. The results being that both engines shut down on the Rotation. So they paused the simulation and reset I expect.
***** If this was a real flight, everyone would die, because of lose of hydraulic and electrical power to the aircraft due to a dual engine failure at 180kts.....
These are both fully qualified pilots who are making training videos for the company. The reason the simulator was stopped wasn't because the pilot couldn't handle it - it was because of the unintentional dual failure
Yeah, it isent that hard, you play it out and upload it under a other title and make the other video afterwords, this just put them in a bad light.. they should fire the companies PR manager for allowing this to happen on video
fire a pr manager because the pilots laughed at a mistake in setting up the simulation? btw the plane would have crashed with dual engine failure after v1 whilst rotating not enough energy to sustain a positive climb rate so playing it out wouldnt have done much
Bro thats literally what they did. It was going to be a single engine failure so they uploaded it under a different title, because something went wrong. ????????????DENSE FUCK HEAD
Ok... let's cut the engine to see if he handles it properly ! What ? It was already programmed on the other engine ? In simulator: lol 🤣 In reality: Air crash investigation séries 2...
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I love how the captain just casually sets the fuel control switch for Engine 1 to cutoff and calls engine failure. ;)
;)
After looking at the comments, I'm pretty sure you have to be a pilot to really understand why this is funny
+777coletrain youre god damn right xD
+777coletrain Not really. You can be like me and understand just fine.
+777coletrain Remember, the way you train, is how you will perform. I can't wait for the audio from the black box :D
+777coletrain both pilots were going to test eachother by failing an engine without telling one another. they failed both at the same time
Joe Stein I know what happened, I was just saying that because of all the people freaking out in the comments. Thanks though
Just love how captain turns engine off :D
And in a very calm way says: "Engine failure, rotate!"
the pilots were laughing so hard that they forgot to fly the plane but everyone died peacefully.
should be titled DUAL PILOT FAILIURE
18Mortus18 😂😂😂😂
The next episode of air crash investigation in the making?
mewantbrains The NTSB will be listening to the pilots laughing while the plane is crashing
@@bustinlooseracing7144 they’ll be saying in some dark shadowy room “what we’re thinking?!”
F/O: We’re going Dow-hahahahahahah
Captain: Hahahahahha bye bye wife and kids hahahahaha
*beeb beeb beeb beep*
F/O: loss of hydraulic pressure hahahahahahahah
Captain: were screwed hahahahah
Funnily enough you could still use this as a training video to illustrate the importance of crew communication :)
They don't laugh if that happens in a real world! :D
+Anton Zuykov british airways crash 777 double engine failure seconds apart
Yeah but 777 crash all the time. Its very unsafe since its launch in 1964
It always crashes due to engine oil leaks. It would be safer to drive a car then in a unsafe, unreliable and cracks in half every 100 flights. I would rather fly in a boat or something. Or even a CRJ700 would be nice
They would not have done that in the real world
1964??? What aircraft are you talking about?
That was great and really funny! Even though they had an unintended dual engine failure, there certainly would have been value in letting the F/O take her in as far as possible (before imminent impact). But hey, great fun nonetheless!
I'd have liked to see the exercise continue...just for the fun of it!!! Great stuff.
The good thing about the sim is you can have some fun!!
Yep, I've heard you can fly a 777 with one engine under the Golden Gate bridge lol
I'm sure that's what real pilots would do in a situation like that
more or less and hope there is some flat ground in front
Or just laugh off their inevitable death
Guys this isn't the 80's anymore update the music but other than that +1
The moment he called out "stop" When airborne and it paused xD
This is what's known in aviation as "A classic stitch up"
What if both engine really failed when it rotates?
+Adritho Zaifar
Neither Boeing, Airbus or other manufacturers have procedures when it comes to dual engine failure on takeoff. It is considered to never happen due to the reliability of the engines. And because of weight, speed and low altitude there is no time to do anything but to slam it on the remaining runway i guess.
+spiff3n Land straight ahead an hope someone lives through it.
+Travis Nelson
What you wrote doesnt make any sence. This is a video showcasing the CRM cockpit procedures if an engine fail. I said there is no procedures if there is a dual engine failure during rotation (No QRH procedures) like they guy said "What if both engine fail when it rotates?" I said, there are no procedures for that kind of situation because you simply dont have any time. You are left with the skill and experience of flying the aircraft.
+spiff3n You are both right to some extent. There's no procedure in the manual because there's no time to work on it. But there's still training for total power failure. Two engines out and no APU running at low speed isn't even going to leave the RAT as an option so you'd have to hope the engines are still in one piece and you can run the hydraulics off their residual energy while you pick the least bad place to crash. If you suffered catastrophic failure of both engines just after Vr you may have what's left in the accumulator and not much else.
+cageordie If i remember correctly from my ATPL studies in Airframes and Systems there was mentioned in the hydraulics chapter that there are reservoirs that are being pressureized once the engine starts. They store hydraulic fluid under pressure and is activated if there is insufficient pressure in the system. I dont know how long or how much you can use it. (suppose it is only being "drained" when flight controls are being used) I guess there are regulations as to how much or how long this must be available, for example a total power loss from cruise you should still manage to have enough hydraulic power to fly safely down and land.
Just saying all that laughing will be on the cockpit voice recorder when it’s recovered lol
How do I get to watch the private ones?
Thanks. Quite an amusing event. Two minds might think alike, but also dissimilarly at the same time. BTW: A small corrective amendment might be wise in the dialogue panel above: "..the right engine to fail at 80 knots...". Cheers.
why hit they the pause key???? The funny part is missing!!! :D
It's funny enough that they failed both engines. If this really happened, you're screwed, just crash straight ahead and hope most people survive. If you loose both engines below 3000ft you're screwed.
Andrew Depends on your location.
@@_Andrew2002 Scandinavian Airlines 751 suffered dual-engine failure caused by massive ice ingestion into the engines shortly after take-off, and all on board survived. It all depends on speed, lift, and control surface operation. And a pinch of good luck to augument the flight crew's experience.
What would you do if both engines failed in real life after V1 or after rotating?
Why is the VR speed 180 knots? Is this normal on the 777 or are they trolling?
In America if you have a Dual Engine Failure, you pause the time and start laughing with your copilot.
Dual engine failure on takeoff is not necessarily death to everyone. The drill is to fly the plane, keep the wings level, and fly straight ahead picking your least disastrous landing point. Why not laugh? It is going to help you relax and think more clearly.
you cant fly the plane up if it loses both engines after shortly after v1
Perhaps "fall with style" is a better term?
@@dusterl1472 No it wont. It will fly better than a light plane with low inertia. Just push nose down and try to stop on runway ahead.
"oh no engine failure gorge! oh fuck he is lifting off!!!HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA " ** in the background
Nice Dynasty style music.
I really can't appreciate the way they handles this. The purpose of sim time is to practice what can occur in real life. Why not continue and practice the crash landing and then have a laugh after a debrief. I don't know may have been pointless. Just thinking aloud.
+uriahms I get what you are saying and i would have prefered to see them continue as well (just to see what happens). The simulator registers every crash the same, so there is no reliable way to grade it and identify ways to improve. When it comes to crashing the aircraft into the small valley past the end of the runway (R16 at YMML) there will be no correct way to do it other than obviously slowing down as much as possible before hand
+Jamenator1 True. Two crashes come to mind. Air Midwest 5481 and BA 38. In both crashes there was nothing the crew could do but they did take action that saved lives. I just thought they would have still made an attempt at minimizing damage as much as they could and laugh about it later.
uriahms the reason for that is possibly that they were not doing any specific training at the time, it was just spare sim time so they may have just been having a bit of fun anyway, pilots quite often muck around with spare sim time. In that case they paused it coz there it is very obvious what is going to happen, and really nothing they can consciously do to change the outcome, it would be mainly based on luck, and the outcome (extent of the damage) would be a total unknown because the sim doesn't simulate an impact sequence. So it was probably of no benefit to run it anyhow, but it would have been interesting to see how fast they went off the end.
Midwest 5481 there was nothing really they could do, similar to this situation. BA38, they just had to clear the fence, so good airmanship got them over. In this case it doesn't matter what they do, they are going into a valley at very high speed and full of fuel
Rotating with dual engine failure at rotating speed will end in a crash no matter what, also that was not the purpose of this training, it was actually only meant for one engine to fail so that the guy flying, on the right, would rotate, lift off and safely land again, you can't do that when you lose both engines at rotation, you're most likely going to either die, at best survive the crash.
The funny thing about all of this was that the guy on the left took it upon himself to fail the engine manually, but he failed the left engine when it already was programmed in the sim that the right engine was gonna fail slightly after V1. All in all it was poor communication, the whole ''manually failing the engine'' was a funny and bootleg way of failing an engine, if a pilot actually did that in real life he'd be suicidal or a psychopath. As said that Captain on the left manually shut off the engine because he didn't know that it was already going to be simulated in the right engine.
The worst time to engine failure after V1.
+Mir “Videostudio Mir” studio The worst time for a second engine failure? At V1 is worst case for one. after Vr is really bad, but from then on depends on where the nearest soft spot is. And whether you can reach it.
They don't have this fun at my local training simulators.
And the EICAS goes nuts...
CRM failure in the entire is good for CRM purposes 👌
what is rudder
No, real crew from a real airline doing demonstrations for cabin crew training purposes
I see a lot of "well what if this happened in real life" type comments, followed by "its impossible" type replies. I would prefer to say "its highly unlikely" rather than impossible. Lets not forget the titanic was unsinkable...
That said, one thing that IS impossible is to prepare for EVERY possible situation. Theres a virtually in infinite amount of ways something can fail, and we can mitigate them to a point, but eventually you reach a point of diminishing returns. Basically, if you never want to be on an airplane that can crash, dont fly.
Course, you can still get hit on the ground by a plane that does crash so....
incorrect
@@outwiththem while I'm inherently biased in wanting to agree with my own comment, I'm curious... what exactly is incorrect?
The claimed ubsinkability of the titanic? The impossibility to prepare for everything? Or the possibility of getting hit by a plane on the ground?
I got Wikipedia and Google links on standby and eagerly await your response!
If this how real pilots do in thèse situation in real Life pls
Bo, just no
Nope, dont worry
1:07 how did he know, that there is left engine failure? N1 didn't decrease, neither EGT.
It said at the beginning that he was going to manually fail it at v1
He shut the engine down on his own and called it an engine failure.
Wait this is not failure simulator gameplay
Gotta love rookies
When i was a DC3 copilot, the PF also handled the throttles. PM only put hand behind throttles, trim them and monitor gauges and instruments.. And DC3's have heavy controls. WTF. It is like PF is not in control of throttles too. This make very Weak pilots that can only do limited piloting and depends on a helper to fly.
RIGHT... weak pilots.
1:07 BUSTED - fuel cutoff
what is the music?
hahaa, when he just cuts off the fuel and calmly says "engine failure."
Was this a real crew from an airline?
You think that pilots doesnt have sense of humor? They have a lot!
I feel little uncomfortable knowing those two little black switchers are so close to their human hands during the take off and stumble to them over our own death ... mmh
Engineering 100/100
Jermaine Andrews
I still believe 1 command to kill a plane is not so great.. at least 3 lever would be good , or 2 if it is really necessary
M Don't worry, it's not that easy to move. You have to pull the switch first and then lower it to the cutoff position. It's not like "oops I put my arm on the switches and the engines are now dead".
Also, I'm not aware of a crash that happened because someone shut down the engines on takeoff.
Fs777
Mmh ok, if so, I feel little better
M Great 😊
i don't really understand what happened. Can someone explain to me?
icyacdc The guy on the left took it upon himself to simulate an engine failure by shutting off the fuel to the engine. 1:07. What he didn't know was the guy running the sim, who is sitting behind them on a computer, had already programmed an engine failure on the other engine 1:13. At the beginning it said they had some free time and were just messing around that's why they were laughing and not taking it so serious.
Me lembrou o acidente da TransAsia com um ATR-72-600, 1 dos motores falharam logo após a decolagem, o comandante então o desligou para evitar um possivel incendio, só que ele desligou o motor errado, desligou o outro motor que estava funcionando perfeitamente, resultado falha dos 2 motores e crash total.
Yes
That's ridiculous. Are this guys real pilots or computer-gamblers?
Ma Fer It's a sim and you can see they have some fun in there. They wouldn't laugh nor stop the whole plane in the air if that would've happened in real life. You people are unbelievable...
Especially nice outcome, if this happens in real life at, say, EDDI/EDBB...
I want to say just one word: GG!!
WHY FUNNY AIRPORT
Is this a game to them? Extremely unprofessional. If if happens to them in real life, do they plan on yelling "stop" and bursting out laughing as well?
They laughed it off because it wasn't the plan to have both engines fail, that's why you hear "a little bit more coordination" at the end lol
Outro music??
The hell happened?
It explains in the description. They had set Engine 2 to fail after V1, and Ken (In the captains seat) didn't know. Decided he would do a manual failure by shutting down Engine 1. The results being that both engines shut down on the Rotation. So they paused the simulation and reset I expect.
If this was a real flight, everyone would die, because of laughing pilots.
***** If this was a real flight, everyone would die, because of lose of hydraulic and electrical power to the aircraft due to a dual engine failure at 180kts.....
+FlightAce100 and the fact they were 100 ft of the ground
Dylan Cotton Well yes, that too.
MR COURIER Raising the flaps with no engines at 100ft ain't a good idea haha
FlightAce100 No I meant to keep the flaps srry I forgot to mention. You need to get the best lift u can
Great job...9/11 would watch again.
for does who doesnt understand why its funny read the description
Wow, so pilots just quit the simulation when something does go as planned. What the fuck aint the purpes to be trained on random situations ?
These are both fully qualified pilots who are making training videos for the company. The reason the simulator was stopped wasn't because the pilot couldn't handle it - it was because of the unintentional dual failure
Yeah, it isent that hard, you play it out and upload it under a other title and make the other video afterwords, this just put them in a bad light.. they should fire the companies PR manager for allowing this to happen on video
Do you honestly think this is how they always train? Let them have some fun....
fire a pr manager because the pilots laughed at a mistake in setting up the simulation? btw the plane would have crashed with dual engine failure after v1 whilst rotating not enough energy to sustain a positive climb rate so playing it out wouldnt have done much
Bro thats literally what they did. It was going to be a single engine failure so they uploaded it under a different title, because something went wrong. ????????????DENSE FUCK HEAD
Why captain cut of fuel lever ? XD
•• напекаша •• simulate engine failure
I mean "these guys"
i dont even know why am i laughing
Really? What was so comical?
Steve Holsten did you not read the description at the beginning?
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, All 247 souls on board are dead!!!
Haha that was great! Keep the vids coming!
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Ok... let's cut the engine to see if he handles it properly !
What ? It was already programmed on the other engine ?
In simulator: lol 🤣
In reality:
Air crash investigation séries 2...
LOL WE ALL DIED
Idiots... I love u guys....♡
lmao the end xDDD
Ut of the plane
A-HOL. LOL ;-)
To, too, two funny !!
Lol we all died
CRM at its best! :D
LOL, that was awesome.
Hahahahahaa :-)
fake it
lol this is so funny
the way they are laughing
that was funny
that was funny lol
What's so funny?
The Captain shutdown the left engine at V1 as a joke.
Rob Schleiger And the second one failed seconds later
Lol
Hahaha that's great
Cool! LOL
Not very funny, but it happens sometimes.
LOL kkkk
何で大笑いしてるの?
Not professional at all
Lol
Lol
Lol