Considering what's happened with this case lately it's really interesting to hear all the other names before Rex is targeted. Your profile of being bullied when younger and not fitting in is perfect. Spooky to hear all the connections
He got caught because police zeroed in on three things: 1 Geography (where he lived and worked). 2 His burner phones & his real phone in connection with that geography. 3.And finally because a witness described seeing a car (Avalanche) where one of the victims was last seen. That last one was ignored for many years. But once the police looked again they narrowed down their list of suspects by who owned this kind of vehicle at the time and place of the murders. Once they had their prime suspect, the police got his DNA from a discarded pizza box he threw away and then compared it to some DNA left at the crime scene. Once it matched, he was toast and the monster was arrested.
It wasn't ignored... the dude had a drug, and thieving problem. PS ladies, Amber's business model of stuffing clients after taking their money is a really bad idea.
We called him the Gilgo Beach killer. I used to surf at Gilgo Beach. When we would get there in the morning the cops would be searching in the taped off areas. It was a wild time.
So the victim with the tattoo on her breast wasn’t bitten. It was a tattoo of a peach drawn with a bite taken out of it. If I recall correctly it made the peach look like a heart. This victim is generally referred to as “peaches”.
I hope they catch him. I live on Long Island and one of his victims' "peaches" was found in a park two blocks from my previous home. Her child's body was and the rest of her remains were found near Jones Beach. I still can't believe no one came forward to identify them.
It's disgusting and depraved to take a life. And that of an innocent child just goes beyond evil. These poor women are out there on the streets because they are lost, feel unloved, were raped, kicked out at a young age, misled by some false promise of love by a partner, and they're just trying to survive. I don't understand how anyone can look at a prostitute and not want to hold them and tell them "you are so much more than you see."
It was rumored online between the websleuths back in 2014 that peaches was from Connecticut. A guy from from a tattoo place said he remember doing her peach tattoo and that she went inside the tattoo shop N she was probably Hispanic she went in with her mom or grandma, not sure how true that is that ,police never investigated the rumor either.
This is a sad case. Any time sex workers are involved I just find them heart breaking. Lost & lonely. Thank you as always for this kind & considerate analysis, Dr. Grande.💖
the compassion for sex workers is good, the assumption all sex workers are lost and lonely, not as much -- all just in my opinion, but maybe I'm reading too much into your words. cheers
@@Zach-h2l indeed, you sound full of compassion & someone who has vast knowledge from the other side perhaps on the lives of sex workers. Yes, you "may be reading too much into it." Those that are murdered are often deserving of compassion. Conversely, those that are young, posting on Craigslist, & in the throes of addiction may not be living their best life, thus lost & lonely.
@@Zach-h2l Ha! So the privileged few who sell themselves on social media should control the narrative and represent the THOUSANDS of drug addicted or trafficked women forced into this lifestyle for many different reasons both personal and societal? Bullshit! Prostitution is slavery, sex work is not work.
I grew up in long island during the murders, and lived right next to Gilgo Beach, we were all scared to go to the beach after the sun went down in case this killer came for us
This case is so bizarre I can’t even keep the story straight. Have watched several different stories/documentaries and they all tell a slightly different story, like this thing almost became a legend of sorts. Enjoyed this video Dr. Grande, as I do all your others. Keep up the good work!
Solved it before you knew it once again..this is why I love and respect you..and your calming tones with bad, straight faced puns that are soooo good! Thank you, and keep up the great work!
Dr. Grande is amazing. This video goes back 2 years ago, and Dr. Grande had tons of great analysis. I had not even heard of the Gilgo Beach up till two weeks ago. I hope for more insight from Dr. Grande regarding this case coming up.
Ahhhh!!! I’m from LI so thank you for covering this case, Dr. G! Many of us here think it was that Bittrolff guy. Word has it that he did some handyman carpentry work in Gilgo Beach back in the day too (although that doesn’t necessarily mean anything on its own). Several others think it smacks of a Suffolk County Police Dept willfully blind coverup kind of like the Stephanie Lazarus case by the LAPD. One of the most negligent things was how the Suffolk Police did not ask for or get the camera footage at the entrance of the Gilgo Beach community Shannan called 911 from until months later when the videotape was already overwritten. Negligent much? 😖 I would not be surprised if they had stuff written down in crayon and cereal killer in their files. 🤣 It’s kind of a disgrace given that Suffolk Police make a ton of money courtesy of county property taxes. My colleague’s husband is on the force and he earns about $300K per year no joke. No disrespect to the hardworking government officials here who do exist, but generally Long Island is very very corrupt and usually the police are never in any hurry to use their manpower to solve crimes. “What are they waiting for? They’re really playing the long game here. Maybe they’re hoping to catch the killer when he’s in his 80s. I don’t know why that would be advantageous.” 🤣🤣🤣 Another classic Dr. G line. Thanks for the daily dose of humor and education!
I'm a Suffolk County "Lifer" and you are 100% on point. The SCPD are so inept imo I don't know of a single big investigation that they didn't botch and their indifference to crimes like this one is mind-boggling! Knowing they make that kind of money is even more sickening since they do little more than give out traffic citations. We are one of the most expensive places to live b/c of extreme property tax rates and these cops are making 6 figures?? For what? I'd really like to know!
When they were covering news back then and mentioned burlaps..... I wondered if it was stagehands that lived in LI and worked in the city. They have easy access to burlap. Most stagehands are corrupt sleezy predators and criminals
I too believe it was possibly all done by Bittrolff. Funny thing is I can't find any info on him. Just his company and house. Not really any neighbors or family, friends commenting on him. Where did you find out he did handy work there? I wouldn't be surprised if Bittrolff knew Burke either. LI is probably the biggest place for gossip but I haven't heard much.....very strange.
Wow Dr. Grande, you’re spot on with Rex H. I find it terribly coincidental that the small stretch of beach where The victims were found would have more than one serial killer working at the same time. God bless those peoples souls and their family members . Being sexually tortured then murdered… I can’t think of a worst way to die. Great job on your analysis. 🙏🕊
Damn, Assange has balls of steel. The last bastion of honest reporting, regardless of the cost he has to personally endure. I don’t know how he hasn’t cracked. But nothing he’s published has ever been false. Best track record out there. And being tortured for it, no less! Not surprised the trump administration is gung ho on keeping his torture going. Poor man 😔
I want him to profile dr york, he was charged with the biggest pedo charge in american history .. he started a cult and built a whole compound in georgia, its crazy what the human mind and tongue can make others do
Shannon called 911 call for 20 minutes, yet she drowned ! Ridiculous... knocking on doors and sounds like she is recording the call, not on drugs! The 911 operator gave this girl no comfort that she even had concern. I'm disgusted
This case has been my obsession for almost 10 years and I am so happy to see you address it! A few thoughts… - John Bittrolff: Prior to the discovery of The Gilgo Beach 4, the killer of the dismembered victims had been dubbed “The Manorville Butcher.” This is another piece that points in the direction of Bittrolff… at least as it pertains to those specific victims. - Bittrolff was likely responsible for a third murder even though he was only convicted of two. All three victims were posed, and their left shoes were removed. He was convicted through a DNA match found in semen left on or in two victims. One could reasonably assume, therefore, that DNA was NOT found with The Gilgo 4. Otherwise, Bittrolff would have been identified or ruled out as the killer of those victims. - Many people have questioned whether Bittrolff could also be The Eastbound Strangler, who murdered four prostitutes in Atlantic City, NJ, removed their shoes and socks, and posed them facing east. - It was reported very early on that The Gilgo 4 were all strangled and found completely nude. (Shoes removed.) - After following this case for nearly a decade, I tend to think that Bitrolff is definitely the Manorville Butcher, but not necessarily the killer of The Gilgo 4 (or the Eastbound 4)... although I could easily be convinced he killed all of them. - Calling Melissa's sister: There is a convincing theory that LISK called Melissa’s sister because he directed Melissa not to bring her cell phone and she disobeyed him. Therefore, he “punished” her by calling her sister. (It was also reported that he told the sister Melissa was alive and being tortured.) - Lastly, you could do a whole video on the mental health and personality factors of Peter Hackett alone! That guy complicated this case in so many ways. I would not be surprised if he was the killer of The Gilgo 4, and Shannon Gilbert. Hackett was ruled out as a suspect, but we don’t know how he was ruled out, and the police department was proven to be corrupt at the time he was ruled out. Thanks for covering this case! I also appreciate your thoughts on organized/disorganized serial killers. I find that topic fascinating. Maybe that alone is worth a whole video? :)
I agree that Bitrolff is a very strong contender for the manorville bodies. But the killer of the gilgo 4 also called Maureen's friend Sara and taunted her using the same whorehouse terms and reference. I believe that the remains of the gilgo 4 were found skeletonised, if that is the case then it is highly unlikely that the cops have DNA. I also doubt the g4 killer has stopped, my guess is that he has just evolved, changed his dumping ground / disposal method or moved away. At least that's how I see it.
I find your comment very interesting and I have a strong interest in this case as well! Wondering if you'd be open to sharing more of your thoughts on this case, as I have some thoughts myself...
I find your comment very interesting and I have a strong interest in this case as well! Wondering if you'd be open to sharing more of your thoughts on this case, as I have some thoughts myself... I replied to the other commenter when I really meant to reply to yours...it caught my attention because you stated you have been following the case for the past 10 years and so have I...
That's interesting that you lean towards Peter Hackett. He is the only one with the initial h or m/w, that were on the belt found near victims. So maybe the belt buckle is W H. Maybe his father/grandfather/great grandfather had a first name starting with W, or even he himself may have a nickname starting with W.
I believe this guy was still active this entire time and just changed his MO. He has apparently been still actively harassing the victims families and using the burner phones he contacted the girls with. So glad they didn’t let the victims and families down.. this case has been a roller coaster!
Also he dumped the last body 2 months before the police discovered everything. I don't think he stopped either, I think he stopped using Gilgo Beach after they found the victims.
@@EricK-tb2dndefinitely a different killer altogether. They are linking them together to be able to get funds for familial dna so they can get identification if noting more to give them back their names.
Dr. Todd Grande, the world would not be the same without you. I can tell that you are very adept in your area and it is fascinating to listen to your observations. Thanks so much-👍
I’ve wondered if it’s that or if they’ve died or become debilitated. If dna is available, then we can rule out the “best suspect” because his dna has been checked.
Angel Blue are you familiar with that area? I always just assumed it was a place where people walk their dogs and the retired cop was just more observant than the average bear. But if it’s not an area where people walk dogs, I can see how that might be suspect.
@@angelblue314 The killers are not cops or protected by cops. The officer that found the first body was not retired. He was on duty and running a training session with the dog.
Thank you Doctor for all the work you do! I'm always pleased to see your bright and happy face! Hope you can relax and have some fun during the coming holidays! You and yours, stay well!
Dr. Grande, I thought of a great person for you to remark on....Tiny Tim! He is from the past, maybe your viewers don't know of him. But what an odd and unique personality to talk about!
I'd love to hear your analysis of Samuel Little, serial killer. How could this guy talk about his victims as though he was reminiscing about a picnic in the park? I'd love to understand the dimensions of this guy.
Dr. Grande, in a documentary I saw, it stated that the supposed killer called the victim's sister from an a highly populated area which suggests knowledge on how to avoid being located by satellite. So, rather than suggest carelessness and low conscientiousness, the context suggests otherwise, according to the documentary. It was suggested that he may have been, or still is, a police officer.
Wow you were seriously right on about what the person was like. Holt crap. Good analysis. Fascinating and super scary too. Hopefully now that he has been caught that community can rest a bit easier. Wow.
So, like Doc G said ...he's either in prison or dead. Or, he hasn't finished coloring in all his books, and he will continue his killing spree once he's done coloring! Another great analysis from Doc G💯😊
Great video - I love the True Crime aspect. Criminal profiling has been a fascination of mine for a while. I enjoy your fictional profiles too. How about the movie American Psycho? Your opinion on that would be really interesting to hear.
Thank you, Dr. Grande. This subject horrifies and saddens me. I was just listening the a podcast yesterday evening about the Missing Women of Juarez. Another massive amount of violence & brutality against regular women and girls. Both in Long island and in the Mexican dessert, the police were confronted with "mass" graves, that were strewn across the same site as many other victims' bodies. I feel more in charge of my horror & fear when I listen to your videos. Thank you for that, as well as everything else you do. Sometimes I just don't understand why women are so expendable in our (and other) cultures. It's like a burning coal in my chest that I can never seem to be able to let go...but your videos do help me categorize the difference between my feelings and the actual evidentiary facts. Take care and I hope you are staying safe and doing very well.
Could you watch and reassess psychiatric interviews from the 60s? I'm curious to know how much of the diagnostic criteria those psychologists were using was based on prejudices at the time. Especially with regards to female, black, and gay patients.
Toucan Sam seems kinda shady in terms of potential cereal killers. Perhaps the LISK was getting bolder with the taunting behavior? Many killers seem to lose touch with what made them hard to find in the first place after getting away with a few. Interesting one Doc!
Today is the day I found you, Dr. Grande. I just watched 4 videos and I think you’re a wonderful speaker. So easy to listen to. And so thorough in your research. You have just gotten a new sub. I moved to Nassau County 4 years ago, from Manhattan. Creepy to think the LISK could be a neighbor. Going to sleep with a weapon tonight.
Hi Dr. Grande, would you consider doing an analysis video on the mental health and personality of Varg Vikernes? He is an infamous Norwegian black metal artist who was imprisoned for the murder of Euronymous of the band Mayhem, as well as the arson of three churches and a planned fourth arson. The reason behind the murder is highly disputed, some speculate it was the result of a financial dispute. Vikernes claimed that Euronymous was planning to torture and kill him, and he wanted to get to Euronymous before he could get to him. After Vikernes' arrest, police found 150 kg of explosives and 3000 rounds of ammunition in his home. He was planning to blow up a radical leftist/anti-fascist/anarchist enclave in Oslo, the capital of Norway. All of this made him and the black metal scene Norway's bogeyman for a while, and has made him the most infamous black metal artist of all time. It would be fascinating to hear your analysis of his mental health and personality. Additionally, it would be interesting to take a look at the black metal scene and how people within the scene perpetuated hateful ideologies such as white supremacy and fascism.
Checking back to see what you said two years ago, before we knew of Rex Heuermann. Interesting… it sounds like Shannon Gilbert was added to the list. I wonder why this thought was changed. Best-
On different note Kenneth Copland’s behavior toward the journalist seemed like magical thinking. He pointed his imaginary wand at the reporter as if he annihilated him hence the satanic smile afterward. Well, that was my two cents on Copland.
Thank you Dr.Grande! Great video as usual !!! Perhaps -“Catch Me If You Can” about Frank Abagnale Oak beach / Giligo is very close to me it’s on a deserted stretch of highway going from Nassau county to Suffolk called Ocean Parkway .... right on Atlantic Ocean coast it’s a beautiful drive I must say but there are no police cruisers over there so it would make it a good dump ground The whole story with Shannon is very unclear and disturbing
Oh no I thought I heard some thing about this. As if what we went through with Joel Rifkin wasn’t enough. My cousin Lorraine was killed by him. I’ve done a couple of interviews to give her a voice but this is just so disturbing.
Prevent PA Prayers out to you and your family! I just can't imagine how strong you'd have to be to get through such devastating events!... Sincerely hope you and your family continue to heal and that you all stay strong together🌷
As always, interesting analysis Dr. Grande. This guy had to be scary calm to pull over to the side of the road and dig those holes with a dead body in his car. Would have only taken one cop to investigate why he is pulled over. I find the burial method so strange and intriguing. Buried in a burlap bag in the fetal position and all pointing in the same direction. My theory is they are facing towards his house and he possibly sees them as his children, or maybe his possessions.
Interesting point .The sort of way their warped minds would work too. He definitely imo lives very close or did before the case blew open to the magnitude it is today . I hope and pray for the victims and family he or they are found ASAP 🙏
Please do a mental health evaluation of Max Cadey (Robert DeNero) from Cape Fear. His character has always fascinated me and he does an extraordinary job in this film.
This was great! I live on Long Island and I remember when all this unfolded so I knew some of the information, but certainly not to this extent! Love your content!!👏🏽😄
Dr grande can you do a video and profile on the new Bedford serial killer?....that's one from the late eighties that was never solved.....I'd like to know your thoughts and profile on that one
Dr Grande, I was surprised to see that you haven't done an analysis of Alyssa Bustamante. Truly a unique and unsettling case with many implications of the modern psychiatric system and youth culture.
Thanks for the redirect Dr. Grande. I’ve been quite caughtup with this election. The only good part about being gone so long. Is that i get to have a DrGrande binge. 🤓❤️✝️ You’re the Best! ❤️
Doctor, since I'm a strict believer in parts of psychodynamic theory, I will from now on support that you analyze serial and other killers so often. I thought a while about this, and came to the following conclusion: If this keeps your own life jail-free*, I absolutely support any video on such topics in the future. Even though I don't like them that much myself. Greetings and a good night to your Id. 🧡 *To me, you and these killers - this is a symbiosis.
Wow, straight binging through these. I'm a former CI student and these are tremendous! Also I am from Long Island so I'm glad you covered this. Keep up the excellent work
Could you please do a video on what the hell might be going on with Rudy Giuliani? Love your videos! Binged watched even more videos last night and really appreciate your response to that "mental health" guy who tried to take advantage of your help with his youtube channel. This is my favourite youtube channel by far!
Oh my goodness, I remember this!!! Really horrendous... Dr. Grande, would you consider reviewing the case of Lucy Letby? I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on it. However, this is a sensitive case and I completely understand if you decide to refrain from it. Thank you as always!❤️
I really enjoyed your criminal profile! These cases fascinate me. Idk much about this one, but I'll do a little research. Thank you for this ongoing - and maybe a little cold - case study!
You should redo this video… they recently released Shannon Gilbert’s 9/11 call. It’s 23 mins long. Maybe we can have your thoughts on what her mindset was during the call? I hope I’m wording this right. Anyways, thank you for the amazing video like always!
Another fantastic vid, thanks Dr Grande for your expert & informed opinion 👌🏻👏🏻👍🏻😊, could you please kindly do a video on both the Isdal murder mystery & the 'who put Bella in the Witch Elm' murder mystery❓❓. Both unknown killers are probebly long gone but it would be hugely satisfying to have you anaslyse there personality... 🍻 Cheers from London 🇬🇧... I ❤️ your vids over here from across the 'pond' 🌍😄
It is rare to go years without but it's been done by a few serial killers taking a long break. BTK comes to mind. He would use the memories he had of what he did to his victims in order to go years in between.. My education being Forensic Psychology and Applied Behavior and I'm leaning towards profiling and in my last year..
Thank you for your excellent analysis of various cases, Dr. Grande, particularly during this pandemic where you've taken the time to make many more videos and on a wide variety of topics. As an INTJ, I particularly appreciate both your focus on scientific objectivity mixed with your deadpan delivery of humorous observations and the wide range of subjects you cover. Would you perhaps be able to take a look at the murder of Australian Tara Costigan, mother of three (3) who was savagely murdered with an axe wielded by her ex-partner as she was actually holding their week-old baby in her arms? I've recently bought the Kindle and Audible book about the murder titled, "The First Time He Hit Her" by Heidi Lemon which goes into detail about the case and the domestic violence which preceded the murder: Tara had taken out an interim domestic violence order just the day before the murder. The book is excellent but I would really appreciate your analysis of the case, both the murderer, Marcus Rappel, and the victim, Tara Costigan and the issues the case raises about domestic violence and the safety of women who take out DV orders.
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Back where in 2023. I’m so proud of you Dr Grande ! Been a fan since day 1. You’re amazing
Considering what's happened with this case lately it's really interesting to hear all the other names before Rex is targeted. Your profile of being bullied when younger and not fitting in is perfect. Spooky to hear all the connections
He got caught because police zeroed in on three things: 1 Geography (where he lived and worked). 2 His burner phones & his real phone in connection with that geography. 3.And finally because a witness described seeing a car (Avalanche) where one of the victims was last seen. That last one was ignored for many years. But once the police looked again they narrowed down their list of suspects by who owned this kind of vehicle at the time and place of the murders. Once they had their prime suspect, the police got his DNA from a discarded pizza box he threw away and then compared it to some DNA left at the crime scene. Once it matched, he was toast and the monster was arrested.
It wasn't ignored... the dude had a drug, and thieving problem. PS ladies, Amber's business model of stuffing clients after taking their money is a really bad idea.
Whenever I have a bad day, at least I know I can look forward to one of Dr. Grande's videos everyday :)
Yep
Whenever I have a bad day I think it could be worse, I could be a serial killer! Then I don't feel so bad :)
I agree ! Same here
As much as I agree with everyone (so nice to have daily videos from the good Doctor!) I hope he takes time off to relax!
Love that Dr Grande is branching out into profiling
We called him the Gilgo Beach killer. I used to surf at Gilgo Beach. When we would get there in the morning the cops would be searching in the taped off areas. It was a wild time.
Girl surfers quit going there .. yup. Bizarre times
So the victim with the tattoo on her breast wasn’t bitten. It was a tattoo of a peach drawn with a bite taken out of it. If I recall correctly it made the peach look like a heart. This victim is generally referred to as “peaches”.
I hope they catch him. I live on Long Island and one of his victims' "peaches" was found in a park two blocks from my previous home. Her child's body was and the rest of her remains were found near Jones Beach. I still can't believe no one came forward to identify them.
It's disgusting and depraved to take a life. And that of an innocent child just goes beyond evil. These poor women are out there on the streets because they are lost, feel unloved, were raped, kicked out at a young age, misled by some false promise of love by a partner, and they're just trying to survive. I don't understand how anyone can look at a prostitute and not want to hold them and tell them "you are so much more than you see."
It was rumored online between the websleuths back in 2014 that peaches was from Connecticut. A guy from from a tattoo place said he remember doing her peach tattoo and that she went inside the tattoo shop N she was probably Hispanic she went in with her mom or grandma, not sure how true that is that ,police never investigated the rumor either.
I saw it in a post I'm 100% sure I saw it, but can't remember all the details.
@@939wepa4 was she from New Haven Connecticut by any chance?
Caught now... he cried when arrested
This is a sad case. Any time sex workers are involved I just find them heart breaking. Lost & lonely. Thank you as always for this kind & considerate analysis, Dr. Grande.💖
the compassion for sex workers is good, the assumption all sex workers are lost and lonely, not as much -- all just in my opinion, but maybe I'm reading too much into your words. cheers
Ever heard of Jack the Ripper
@@Zach-h2l indeed, you sound full of compassion & someone who has vast knowledge from the other side perhaps on the lives of sex workers. Yes, you "may be reading too much into it." Those that are murdered are often deserving of compassion. Conversely, those that are young, posting on Craigslist, & in the throes of addiction may not be living their best life, thus lost & lonely.
@@SkyandMoon909 Hey Carolyne! I think you scared the Wrathful Warlock away! Good on ya! lol. 💕
@@Zach-h2l Ha! So the privileged few who sell themselves on social media should control the narrative and represent the THOUSANDS of drug addicted or trafficked women forced into this lifestyle for many different reasons both personal and societal? Bullshit! Prostitution is slavery, sex work is not work.
Dr. Todd Grande fulfilling the needs of followers everywhere! Thank you again for such intriguing dissemination of information!
I grew up in long island during the murders, and lived right next to Gilgo Beach, we were all scared to go to the beach after the sun went down in case this killer came for us
Just don't call the police....
@@We_Are_All_Vultures well not ALL the police are bad ... it’s those few rotten tomatoes 🍅 that are cray cray
So scary!!!
I lived in bellmore until 2004. It’s crazy how nobody during that time even knew of his existence.
I would be so scared if I were you tbh
This case is so bizarre I can’t even keep the story straight. Have watched several different stories/documentaries and they all tell a slightly different story, like this thing almost became a legend of sorts. Enjoyed this video Dr. Grande, as I do all your others. Keep up the good work!
Ask most locals. They know.... remember that what was known at the time is different from how things get reported today.
Solved it before you knew it once again..this is why I love and respect you..and your calming tones with bad, straight faced puns that are soooo good! Thank you, and keep up the great work!
Dr. Grande is amazing. This video goes back 2 years ago, and Dr. Grande had tons of great analysis. I had not even heard of the Gilgo Beach up till two weeks ago. I hope for more insight from Dr. Grande regarding this case coming up.
Ahhhh!!! I’m from LI so thank you for covering this case, Dr. G!
Many of us here think it was that Bittrolff guy. Word has it that he did some handyman carpentry work in Gilgo Beach back in the day too (although that doesn’t necessarily mean anything on its own). Several others think it smacks of a Suffolk County Police Dept willfully blind coverup kind of like the Stephanie Lazarus case by the LAPD.
One of the most negligent things was how the Suffolk Police did not ask for or get the camera footage at the entrance of the Gilgo Beach community Shannan called 911 from until months later when the videotape was already overwritten. Negligent much? 😖 I would not be surprised if they had stuff written down in crayon and cereal killer in their files. 🤣 It’s kind of a disgrace given that Suffolk Police make a ton of money courtesy of county property taxes. My colleague’s husband is on the force and he earns about $300K per year no joke. No disrespect to the hardworking government officials here who do exist, but generally Long Island is very very corrupt and usually the police are never in any hurry to use their manpower to solve crimes.
“What are they waiting for? They’re really playing the long game here. Maybe they’re hoping to catch the killer when he’s in his 80s. I don’t know why that would be advantageous.”
🤣🤣🤣 Another classic Dr. G line.
Thanks for the daily dose of humor and education!
I'm a Suffolk County "Lifer" and you are 100% on point. The SCPD are so inept imo I don't know of a single big investigation that they didn't botch and their indifference to crimes like this one is mind-boggling! Knowing they make that kind of money is even more sickening since they do little more than give out traffic citations. We are one of the most expensive places to live b/c of extreme property tax rates and these cops are making 6 figures?? For what? I'd really like to know!
It’s gotten to the point where calling them for help is a mistake
When they were covering news back then and mentioned burlaps..... I wondered if it was stagehands that lived in LI and worked in the city. They have easy access to burlap. Most stagehands are corrupt sleezy predators and criminals
I too believe it was possibly all done by Bittrolff. Funny thing is I can't find any info on him. Just his company and house. Not really any neighbors or family, friends commenting on him. Where did you find out he did handy work there? I wouldn't be surprised if Bittrolff knew Burke either. LI is probably the biggest place for gossip but I haven't heard much.....very strange.
@@fireflies735 Cuộc đời của mỗi chúng ta là một màn kịch vô cùng quan trọng.
Right on with the age, alleged killer arrested today is 59 years old. And narcissistic as well.
And a hoarder! What a charmer.
Man now that the suspect is in custody you kind of nailed it, pretty accurate if you ask me 👍
Yes. Glad this creep is off the streets. I am impressed that the cops never stopped.
In light of the recent arrest of this serial killer, I find this personality profile to be eerily correct.
Wow Dr. Grande, you’re spot on with Rex H. I find it terribly coincidental that the small stretch of beach where The victims were found would have more than one serial killer working at the same time. God bless those peoples souls and their family members . Being sexually tortured then murdered… I can’t think of a worst way to die. Great job on your analysis. 🙏🕊
Can you do a profile on Julian Assange, the founder of Wikileaks?
yes! i've been requesting julian for months; he's too fascinating. i really hope dr. grande picks him to analyze one day. 🤞🏻
Damn, Assange has balls of steel. The last bastion of honest reporting, regardless of the cost he has to personally endure. I don’t know how he hasn’t cracked. But nothing he’s published has ever been false. Best track record out there. And being tortured for it, no less! Not surprised the trump administration is gung ho on keeping his torture going. Poor man 😔
The guy went crazy.
Eh. Sounds like he always was. Leaking was a great cover fir his normal douchebaggery.
I want him to profile dr york, he was charged with the biggest pedo charge in american history .. he started a cult and built a whole compound in georgia, its crazy what the human mind and tongue can make others do
I like the serial killer videos, keep doing them.
THIS!
I think he typically has a "cooldown" period before he makes more serial killer videos.
@@Fahrenheit4051 kinda think it maybe 2 killers, sense theres been no more victims,
@@Fahrenheit4051 are you suggesting that he is creating some sort of serial serial killer serial?
Shannon called 911 call for 20 minutes, yet she drowned ! Ridiculous... knocking on doors and sounds like she is recording the call, not on drugs! The 911 operator gave this girl no comfort that she even had concern. I'm disgusted
I'd like to see you discuss the West Mesa Bone Collector next.
Do you think Lorenzo Montoya was the West Mesa Bone Collector?
That is probably the 2nd coolest serial killer name behind The Servant Girl Annihilator
@@mysteryjunkie9808what about the night stalker
This case has been my obsession for almost 10 years and I am so happy to see you address it! A few thoughts…
- John Bittrolff: Prior to the discovery of The Gilgo Beach 4, the killer of the dismembered victims had been dubbed “The Manorville Butcher.” This is another piece that points in the direction of Bittrolff… at least as it pertains to those specific victims.
- Bittrolff was likely responsible for a third murder even though he was only convicted of two. All three victims were posed, and their left shoes were removed. He was convicted through a DNA match found in semen left on or in two victims. One could reasonably assume, therefore, that DNA was NOT found with The Gilgo 4. Otherwise, Bittrolff would have been identified or ruled out as the killer of those victims.
- Many people have questioned whether Bittrolff could also be The Eastbound Strangler, who murdered four prostitutes in Atlantic City, NJ, removed their shoes and socks, and posed them facing east.
- It was reported very early on that The Gilgo 4 were all strangled and found completely nude. (Shoes removed.)
- After following this case for nearly a decade, I tend to think that Bitrolff is definitely the Manorville Butcher, but not necessarily the killer of The Gilgo 4 (or the Eastbound 4)... although I could easily be convinced he killed all of them.
- Calling Melissa's sister: There is a convincing theory that LISK called Melissa’s sister because he directed Melissa not to bring her cell phone and she disobeyed him. Therefore, he “punished” her by calling her sister. (It was also reported that he told the sister Melissa was alive and being tortured.)
- Lastly, you could do a whole video on the mental health and personality factors of Peter Hackett alone! That guy complicated this case in so many ways. I would not be surprised if he was the killer of The Gilgo 4, and Shannon Gilbert. Hackett was ruled out as a suspect, but we don’t know how he was ruled out, and the police department was proven to be corrupt at the time he was ruled out.
Thanks for covering this case! I also appreciate your thoughts on organized/disorganized serial killers. I find that topic fascinating. Maybe that alone is worth a whole video? :)
I agree that Bitrolff is a very strong contender for the manorville bodies.
But the killer of the gilgo 4 also called Maureen's friend Sara and taunted her using the same whorehouse terms and reference.
I believe that the remains of the gilgo 4 were found skeletonised, if that is the case then it is highly unlikely that the cops have DNA.
I also doubt the g4 killer has stopped, my guess is that he has just evolved, changed his dumping ground / disposal method or moved away.
At least that's how I see it.
I find your comment very interesting and I have a strong interest in this case as well!
Wondering if you'd be open to sharing more of your thoughts on this case, as I have some thoughts myself...
I find your comment very interesting and I have a strong interest in this case as well!
Wondering if you'd be open to sharing more of your thoughts on this case, as I have some thoughts myself...
I replied to the other commenter when I really meant to reply to yours...it caught my attention because you stated you have been following the case for the past 10 years and so have I...
That's interesting that you lean towards Peter Hackett. He is the only one with the initial h or m/w, that were on the belt found near victims. So maybe the belt buckle is W H. Maybe his father/grandfather/great grandfather had a first name starting with W, or even he himself may have a nickname starting with W.
The doctor Peter Hackett could either be the killer or he could just be an attention seeker, I am not so sure.
Can't wait to see your update on this case. They caught a likely suspect recently!
I believe this guy was still active this entire time and just changed his MO. He has apparently been still actively harassing the victims families and using the burner phones he contacted the girls with. So glad they didn’t let the victims and families down.. this case has been a roller coaster!
Also he dumped the last body 2 months before the police discovered everything.
I don't think he stopped either, I think he stopped using Gilgo Beach after they found the victims.
It also sounds like he was decapitating victims prior to 2007 and then stopped. Maybe it was too much risk vs reward to him.
Yes. More victims. More recently.
@@EricK-tb2dndefinitely a different killer altogether. They are linking them together to be able to get funds for familial dna so they can get identification if noting more to give them back their names.
Dr. Todd Grande, the world would not be the same without you. I can tell that you are very adept in your area and it is fascinating to listen to your observations. Thanks so much-👍
Sounds like he is in Prison and a DNA match is the only way to resolve it. The police appear to have given up on it.
I’ve wondered if it’s that or if they’ve died or become debilitated. If dna is available, then we can rule out the “best suspect” because his dna has been checked.
@@angelblue314 I agree!
Angel Blue are you familiar with that area? I always just assumed it was a place where people walk their dogs and the retired cop was just more observant than the average bear. But if it’s not an area where people walk dogs, I can see how that might be suspect.
@@angelblue314 The killers are not cops or protected by cops. The officer that found the first body was not retired. He was on duty and running a training session with the dog.
Shannon Gilbert disappearance was how they discovered Gilgo Beach bodies searching area for her with dogs.
Your profile turns out to have been pretty spot on. 'High in conscientiousness' organized, OCD
Thank you Doctor for all the work you do!
I'm always pleased to see your bright and happy face!
Hope you can relax and have some fun during the coming holidays!
You and yours, stay well!
Interesting watching this video after the arrest. Thanks for the great work!
Cereal killers are indeed the bane of grains. If only we had some kind of bowel to contain them. Ty Dr. Grande, entertaining as usual.
Clever!
@@erikparent8176 :) In these times, we must find ways to entertain ourselves in the context of community imo.
Cool statement..love it!!
Bowl? Sorry I am British. We are brought up as grammar Nazis.
@@ambercrombie789 Bowls? Bools? Bowling? Bowels? Movements? Ahhrrgh; We are indeed trapped in the intestines of our minds! lol :D
Dr. grande is very intelligent and always has different perspective on issues, which is amazing
Dr. Grande, I thought of a great person for you to remark on....Tiny Tim! He is from the past, maybe your viewers don't know of him. But what an odd and unique personality to talk about!
That is a good call.
Hey, Handsome!!! I’m so glad you are covering this! This case keeps is so interesting 🧐
Maybe he's not active in RI anymore, but is somewhere else.
Ny
@@chrisdambrosia2468 I knew I'd get it wrong!
Rhode island, Long island, the Hawaiian island's, Prince Albert in a can. It's pretty much all the same 😉
I'd love to hear your analysis of Samuel Little, serial killer. How could this guy talk about his victims as though he was reminiscing about a picnic in the park? I'd love to understand the dimensions of this guy.
Dr. Grande, in a documentary I saw, it stated that the supposed killer called the victim's sister from an a highly populated area which suggests knowledge on how to avoid being located by satellite. So, rather than suggest carelessness and low conscientiousness, the context suggests otherwise, according to the documentary. It was suggested that he may have been, or still is, a police officer.
Yes!The killer called from Penn Station. The girls would often take the train to meet their clients.
He's prolly an architect, works on commercial building codes...just a guess
@@crede9427 Lol. I see what you did there.
The profiles in this case were spot on.
Wow you were seriously right on about what the person was like. Holt crap. Good analysis. Fascinating and super scary too. Hopefully now that he has been caught that community can rest a bit easier. Wow.
Plzzzzz Dr. G, analyze Anthony Bourdain!
My friends sister was a victim. Maureen. My friend crashed his motorcycle after and passed away. I feel so bad for their mother.
Glad it looks like the sister will have vengeance. I believe the right guy has been caught.
They have the suspect now in custody & hopefully they can link Maureen to him.
Oh, I’m on it. Been following this case very closely. it’s personal.
Dr. Grande is a hidden gem of TH-cam.
So, like Doc G said ...he's either in prison or dead. Or, he hasn't finished coloring in all his books, and he will continue his killing spree once he's done coloring! Another great analysis from Doc G💯😊
Great video Dr. Grande, can't get enough of your videos.
Doc, you upload so many videos, thanks for all the hard work
Great video - I love the True Crime aspect. Criminal profiling has been a fascination of mine for a while. I enjoy your fictional profiles too. How about the movie American Psycho? Your opinion on that would be really interesting to hear.
You hit some points really nicely on the head now that we know more.
Thank you, Dr. Grande. This subject horrifies and saddens me. I was just listening the a podcast yesterday evening about the Missing Women of Juarez. Another massive amount of violence & brutality against regular women and girls. Both in Long island and in the Mexican dessert, the police were confronted with "mass" graves, that were strewn across the same site as many other victims' bodies. I feel more in charge of my horror & fear when I listen to your videos. Thank you for that, as well as everything else you do.
Sometimes I just don't understand why women are so expendable in our (and other) cultures. It's like a burning coal in my chest that I can never seem to be able to let go...but your videos do help me categorize the difference between my feelings and the actual evidentiary facts.
Take care and I hope you are staying safe and doing very well.
'Not bad, not bad at all'...knowing what is being reported now you've done it again Doc, nailed it.
I enjoy your channel, it's quickly becoming one of my favorites! Thank you so much!
Could you watch and reassess psychiatric interviews from the 60s?
I'm curious to know how much of the diagnostic criteria those psychologists were using was based on prejudices at the time. Especially with regards to female, black, and gay patients.
I am so glad you are looking at this case. The police need all the help they can get. Thanks
An analysis of Walter White from
“Breaking Bad” would be greatly appreciated.
ooooh that would be a really great one!
He already did it a year ago.
Go up to the Search and enter "Dr. Todd Grande Walter White"
@@rullmourn1142 He also did Saul Goodman from "Better Call Saul."
Yasssss!!!
Wow. You nailed it. Loner with vulnerable narcissism, bullied, mom issues. Well done sir
I especially like your big 5 breakdown. Absolutely
hey doc, whats your take on the freshly deceased 'Yorkshire Ripper' ?
Toucan Sam seems kinda shady in terms of potential cereal killers.
Perhaps the LISK was getting bolder with the taunting behavior? Many killers seem to lose touch with what made them hard to find in the first place after getting away with a few.
Interesting one Doc!
Tony the tiger cereal killer biggest suspect his family were notorious for attacking from behind.
Always here for my daily dose of Dr.Grande 😄
Today is the day I found you, Dr. Grande. I just watched 4 videos and I think you’re a wonderful speaker. So easy to listen to. And so thorough in your research. You have just gotten a new sub. I moved to Nassau County 4 years ago, from Manhattan. Creepy to think the LISK could be a neighbor. Going to sleep with a weapon tonight.
Hi Dr. Grande, would you consider doing an analysis video on the mental health and personality of Varg Vikernes? He is an infamous Norwegian black metal artist who was imprisoned for the murder of Euronymous of the band Mayhem, as well as the arson of three churches and a planned fourth arson. The reason behind the murder is highly disputed, some speculate it was the result of a financial dispute. Vikernes claimed that Euronymous was planning to torture and kill him, and he wanted to get to Euronymous before he could get to him. After Vikernes' arrest, police found 150 kg of explosives and 3000 rounds of ammunition in his home. He was planning to blow up a radical leftist/anti-fascist/anarchist enclave in Oslo, the capital of Norway. All of this made him and the black metal scene Norway's bogeyman for a while, and has made him the most infamous black metal artist of all time. It would be fascinating to hear your analysis of his mental health and personality. Additionally, it would be interesting to take a look at the black metal scene and how people within the scene perpetuated hateful ideologies such as white supremacy and fascism.
Now that he's been arrested, I'd say you did a pretty good analysis
Checking back to see what you said two years ago, before we knew of Rex Heuermann. Interesting… it sounds like Shannon Gilbert was added to the list. I wonder why this thought was changed. Best-
Dr. Grande you were spot on in your profiling of who this serial killer would be. Excellent analysis.
Almost! Dr though dude would have a big criminal record
On different note Kenneth Copland’s behavior toward the journalist seemed like magical thinking. He pointed his imaginary wand at the reporter as if he annihilated him hence the satanic smile afterward. Well, that was my two cents on Copland.
Thank you Dr.Grande! Great video as usual !!! Perhaps -“Catch Me If You Can” about Frank Abagnale
Oak beach / Giligo is very close to me it’s on a deserted stretch of highway going from Nassau county to Suffolk called Ocean Parkway .... right on Atlantic Ocean coast
it’s a beautiful drive I must say but there are no police cruisers over there so it would make it a good dump ground
The whole story with Shannon is very unclear and disturbing
Thank you! I SO look forward to every video you upload. And i still haven’t even finished binge watching each of your older vids. ❤️
Oh no I thought I heard some thing about this. As if what we went through with Joel Rifkin wasn’t enough. My cousin Lorraine was killed by him. I’ve done a couple of interviews to give her a voice but this is just so disturbing.
Prevent PA Prayers out to you and your family!
I just can't imagine how strong you'd have to be to get through such devastating events!...
Sincerely hope you and your family continue to heal and that you all stay strong together🌷
As always, interesting analysis Dr. Grande.
This guy had to be scary calm to pull over to the side of the road and dig those holes with a dead body in his car. Would have only taken one cop to investigate why he is pulled over.
I find the burial method so strange and intriguing. Buried in a burlap bag in the fetal position and all pointing in the same direction. My theory is they are facing towards his house and he possibly sees them as his children, or maybe his possessions.
Interesting point .The sort of way their warped minds would work too. He definitely imo lives very close or did before the case blew open to the magnitude it is today . I hope and pray for the victims and family he or they are found ASAP 🙏
The area is remote no one driving around at night especially in winter off season.
Please do a mental health evaluation of Max Cadey (Robert DeNero) from Cape Fear. His character has always fascinated me and he does an extraordinary job in this film.
Dr. Grande, you are a voice of sanity crying in the wilderness if craziness. Please keep doing what you do
This was great! I live on Long Island and I remember when all this unfolded so I knew some of the information, but certainly not to this extent! Love your content!!👏🏽😄
Dr grande can you do a video and profile on the new Bedford serial killer?....that's one from the late eighties that was never solved.....I'd like to know your thoughts and profile on that one
Great video Dr Grande! On that note, I'd love to know your opinion on Wayne Williams. Thank you ♡
Hello Dr. Grande. Still loving your channel!! Keep up the good work.
Dr Grande, I was surprised to see that you haven't done an analysis of Alyssa Bustamante. Truly a unique and unsettling case with many implications of the modern psychiatric system and youth culture.
Please do either Tony Soprano from The Sopranos or Olivia Benson from Law And Order: SVU
Do Tony ! Do Tony!!
Clicked so dang fast 💨
Same! 😏
Every time.
Work can wait 😇
Me too since I haven’t watched his videos for awhile
@@yocland8841 ⁰
No one grinds harder than Dr. Grande
We need an update!
Make an analysis of the Whitechapel Murders. I'd like to hear your opinion.
Very concise description of the background to this case.
Thanks for the redirect Dr. Grande. I’ve been quite caughtup with this election.
The only good part about being gone so long.
Is that i get to have a DrGrande binge. 🤓❤️✝️
You’re the Best! ❤️
I need to see Dr. Grande, I have a problem . I'm addicted to this channel 😀🤣🙏🏻✝️♥️
Fascinating to watch after the arrest. Good job overall, quite impressive.
Doctor, since I'm a strict believer in parts of psychodynamic theory, I will from now on support that you analyze serial and other killers so often. I thought a while about this, and came to the following conclusion: If this keeps your own life jail-free*, I absolutely support any video on such topics in the future. Even though I don't like them that much myself. Greetings and a good night to your Id. 🧡
*To me, you and these killers - this is a symbiosis.
Wow, straight binging through these. I'm a former CI student and these are tremendous! Also I am from Long Island so I'm glad you covered this. Keep up the excellent work
Just got back from New Mexico bday trip and Dr. Grande comes through with another super awesome video just as I hit my bed ☺️🙂☺️
The ‘oldest profession’ is also the most dangerous.
I feel so badly when people feel their only option is prostitution.
Farming?
Not even close, but nice try.
What is the second oldest profession
@@deroxanlit4181 butcher
Could you please do a video on what the hell might be going on with Rudy Giuliani? Love your videos! Binged watched even more videos last night and really appreciate your response to that "mental health" guy who tried to take advantage of your help with his youtube channel. This is my favourite youtube channel by far!
Oh my goodness, I remember this!!! Really horrendous...
Dr. Grande, would you consider reviewing the case of Lucy Letby? I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on it. However, this is a sensitive case and I completely understand if you decide to refrain from it.
Thank you as always!❤️
I think you've done well, considering we know about him now. I know he's a loner, hard to get aling with but seems to be fairly successful.
But wasn't he married and had kids? His wife just filed for divorce after his arrest.
Requested this a while back, thank you, Dr. G!
I really enjoyed your criminal profile! These cases fascinate me. Idk much about this one, but I'll do a little research. Thank you for this ongoing - and maybe a little cold - case study!
You should redo this video… they recently released Shannon Gilbert’s 9/11 call. It’s 23 mins long. Maybe we can have your thoughts on what her mindset was during the call? I hope I’m wording this right. Anyways, thank you for the amazing video like always!
Another fantastic vid, thanks Dr Grande for your expert & informed opinion 👌🏻👏🏻👍🏻😊, could you please kindly do a video on both the Isdal murder mystery & the 'who put Bella in the Witch Elm' murder mystery❓❓. Both unknown killers are probebly long gone but it would be hugely satisfying to have you anaslyse there personality... 🍻 Cheers from London 🇬🇧... I ❤️ your vids over here from across the 'pond' 🌍😄
DR Grande could you look at the case of potential serial killer ADAM STRONG in Canada 🍁
It is rare to go years without but it's been done by a few serial killers taking a long break. BTK comes to mind. He would use the memories he had of what he did to his victims in order to go years in between.. My education being Forensic Psychology and Applied Behavior and I'm leaning towards profiling and in my last year..
Not forgetting the photos of himself cross-dressed, semi buried, strung up...
I’m glad I found your channel. Very informative and interesting. Keep up the good work.
Hi Doctor Grande can you do an analysis of the German Serial Killer Peter Kürten AKA The Vampire Of Düsseldorf.
Thank you for your excellent analysis of various cases, Dr. Grande, particularly during this pandemic where you've taken the time to make many more videos and on a wide variety of topics. As an INTJ, I particularly appreciate both your focus on scientific objectivity mixed with your deadpan delivery of humorous observations and the wide range of subjects you cover. Would you perhaps be able to take a look at the murder of Australian Tara Costigan, mother of three (3) who was savagely murdered with an axe wielded by her ex-partner as she was actually holding their week-old baby in her arms? I've recently bought the Kindle and Audible book about the murder titled, "The First Time He Hit Her" by Heidi Lemon which goes into detail about the case and the domestic violence which preceded the murder: Tara had taken out an interim domestic violence order just the day before the murder. The book is excellent but I would really appreciate your analysis of the case, both the murderer, Marcus Rappel, and the victim, Tara Costigan and the issues the case raises about domestic violence and the safety of women who take out DV orders.
One of my favourite topics, yayyy! Thanks for always making my day doc! 😄❤️