NEW Leica D-Lux 8 vs D-Lux 7 vs Leica Q3 vs NEW Panasonic Lumix S9

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  • In this video I introduce the just announced new Leica D-Lux 8. Market launch for this camera will be the 2nd of July. I compare the new D-Lux 8 with the Leica D-Lux 7, with the Leica Q3 and with the also just announced new Panasonic Lumix S9 which is a full frame sensor system camera in the L-Mount Alliance. The video explains everything you need to know about the new Leica D-Lux 8.
    Additional note: the new Panasonic Lumix S9 has no EVF - likely not a problem for videographers but certainly for photographers. This is the big disadvantage of the new Lumix S9. Its possible that there will be an accessory EVF available in the future like we have it in the Leica world (Visoflex 2) but for the time being image composition will have to happen via the rear LCD screen if you shoot an S9.
    What material is the Leica D-Lux 8 made of:
    Full metal housing: magnesium die-cast, leatherette covering
    Leica also brings new accessories for the D-Lux 8 to market. Go here and scroll to the bottom of the website:
    leica-camera.com/en-int/photo...
    What's in the box if you purchase the Leica D-Lux 8:
    - Leica D-Lux 8
    - Flash unit
    - Lens cap with safety tie
    - Hand strap
    - Lithium-ion rechargeable battery Leica BP-DC15
    - Quick Start Guide
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  • @jimt7292
    @jimt7292 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Finally a channel that has the Lux 8 and provides a comparison to the Lux 7 and the Q3. Well done. Thank you.

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My pleasure!

    • @sallhame
      @sallhame 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@mathphotographer Who makes the D-Lux 7 and D-Lux 8? Is it Panasonic? I have been looking for a D-Lux 7, but Now I am up for a D-Lux 8.

  • @gzramiro
    @gzramiro 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    The design is amazing, the simplified menus and the true mini Q vibe is alluring. I'm ok with the lens but I can't accept a 6 y/o sensor given the gigantic leap that panasonic did with the 25mpx phase detection capable sensor. This is nuts :(

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Let's see what the sensor really is about, as said in the video, Leica has not yet published an official specs sheet. At least its a CMOS sensor whereas the D-Lux 7 has an MOS sensor.

    • @marckyokay
      @marckyokay 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@mathphotographer Image quality and ISO comparison would be great... The megapixel are alright but it would really be great to have image quality improvements to make me upgrade from the Lumix LX100 II

  • @user-gh6ep8rg1q
    @user-gh6ep8rg1q 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you so much really informative and well presented video, I am going to get one in July and super excited, thanks again from Lincolnshire uk

  • @nielsscholtens7931
    @nielsscholtens7931 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video. Keep up the good work. You've probably said it before but wat is the brand of the matte screen protector you use on the d lux 7 and other Leica's?

  • @domipro123
    @domipro123 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    The problem with the S9 it has no EVF !!! (Sun???) Good explanation and comparison 👌🏻

    • @juergenstrapko7159
      @juergenstrapko7159 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Exactly my thought thats the reason i own the A7cr…. Same size but with grip and EVF and better AF and better lens choice and yes 60 MP means i got with my 35mm 1.4 also a 50mm 2.1…. Option i like it

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks. And yes, the missing EVF of the S9 is a problem.

  • @domipro123
    @domipro123 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Can you set a MONOchrome set-up (EVF and screen), in DNG, and the color space in Adobe RGB? Can set-up different custom profiles like the Q3?

  • @SamChihabi
    @SamChihabi 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I had a bad experiance with D-Lux 7 in regards to sensor dust that gets in and cannot be cleaned, I hope they are able to resolve this problem.

    • @daviddb4858
      @daviddb4858 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      This is a problem with the fixed lens compact cameras that are not weather and dust sealed. One needs to be very careful with use and storage. Leica care will clean the sensor, but it's always better to avoid the problem if one can. (I've had this issue, too.)

    • @rickyzagalo
      @rickyzagalo 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      .

    • @Cthames123
      @Cthames123 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is the main reason why I have stayed away from the DLUX 7 and LX100mii. Dust ingress on the sensor is an inevitable fact of life. Better to get the GX9 in this regard as it is easy to take off the lens and blow away any debris that happens to get on the sensor. Not really excited about the DLUX8.

    • @michaeld5888
      @michaeld5888 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@daviddb4858 The LX100 has a far larger reported problem than most with this. I have had many compacts and a couple of Panasonic zooms the only ones that had dust problem. One had dust in it from new. I think it rather unfair to damn all compact cameras with this problem. I have a Casio compact and Canon SX620 which are pretty long in the tooth with no trace of dust visible.

  • @brads.3674
    @brads.3674 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very thorough and informative. Thank you! (I giggled a little when you called the Q3 a compact camera though :) )

  • @Footski1
    @Footski1 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    An excellent comparison. Thank you.

  • @retinaky
    @retinaky 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Man I love the D Lux 7 and Lumix LX100 m2 so it makes me sad to see so little effort put into an upgrade by Leica/Panasonic. No 4K 60? Still has a significant crop in video? Still with 49 area contrast detect AF? It is no wonder why no one is talking about the specifics of this camera.

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We will see finally everything when Leica publishes specifications, so far its not clear what the details are on this camera.

    • @Cthames123
      @Cthames123 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My point exactly! There really doesn’t seem to be anything compelling about the DLUX 8…Nothing at all. The best thing is that the price on the DLUX 7 should go down now that the “newer” model is out.

  • @archbus
    @archbus 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    The dlux8 is underwhelming to me. I would probably choose the Fuji X100vi. Q3 owner here

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Stay happy with your Q3 :) Does not fit in the pocket of your jacket but is one of the best cameras you can get and shoot!

    • @wss327
      @wss327 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I have seen shops quoting 7 months delivery for the X100VI... 😞

    • @David.Murdoch
      @David.Murdoch 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The x100vi is 1000 more for places that have it in stock.

    • @andreaskaphengst8121
      @andreaskaphengst8121 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Why upgrade if the image quality will be the same? I prefer the extra buttons and the exposure compensation dial. I will stick to my dlux type 109.

    • @Uwe-wy9nl
      @Uwe-wy9nl 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@andreaskaphengst8121 I think so too, even the jpgs of the 109 are very, very usable.

  • @user-nz9rj2kw4v
    @user-nz9rj2kw4v 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I think that Leica has missed a trick here: if it had an APS sensor, it would blow the Fuji vi out of the water and I would buy it. However, MFT is IMO not quite enough. Otherwise it looks excellent. Perhaps it is the ideal camera for e.g. a cycling or hiking trip.

    • @Tigerex966
      @Tigerex966 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Mft is way more than.enough...for most

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I agree, for people in sports, reportage, hiking, etc. this is a small lightweight camera you can take with you everywhere and will get good photos with good enough image quality for larger prints ... this camera will find its buyers, I am sure :)

    • @user-nz9rj2kw4v
      @user-nz9rj2kw4v 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Tigerex966 I accept that but my main point was that the Fuji e100vi which has an APC sensor, seems to be sweeping all before it at the moment. Imagine if Leica had made this camera with an APC sensor and the equivalent zoom lens. I suspect that it would be selling like hot cakes.

    • @Tigerex966
      @Tigerex966 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@user-nz9rj2kw4v well you maybe right but at their prices I don’t think any Leica will sell like hot cakes.
      It is true apc sensor is the perfect balance between full frame and m43.
      Ironically critics think Panasonic should have made the s9 a m43 camera.

  • @steinergraphie
    @steinergraphie 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you check, if it´s possible to use the Grip from D-Lux 7 on D-Lux 8. Thanks you

  • @grjlynch
    @grjlynch 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Very informative thank you. I have a Q3 and a D-Lux 7 and I use them excactly as you said in the video. I am attracted by the ‘mini Q3’ because I always have to think twice when using the D-Lux and hate Micro USB, but are the changes enough to get me to upgade? Not sure they are for the cost involved (including having to buy a new grip).

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for your positive feedback on the video. I will upgrade from D-Lux 7 to D-Lux 8 for sure but some time later when Leica likely launches another special edition like they did for the D-Lux 7 - I showed both special limited editions in the video :) Then its even more fun to upgrade.

  • @JodyCortes
    @JodyCortes 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Will the added hand grip of the seven fit on the new eight?

  • @robd2467
    @robd2467 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Very good comprehensive review. Agree also - the Q3 is best camera I have used as an all rounder. I will be getting a d-lux 8 based on your review. Thanks.

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @Cthames123
      @Cthames123 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But what about the specs? They haven’t released the specs for the DLuX 8 yet? I’m not impressed (disappointed) with what I’ve seen in the DLUX 8, as I really wanted to see what they were going to come with. I like the DLUX 7 better. I don’t have a DLux 7. Maybe the price will go down now that the DLUX 8 is out. There doesn’t seem to be anything earth-shatteringly better about the DLUX8 over the 7.

  • @craigkoch4585
    @craigkoch4585 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice job! Thank you

  • @Households1234
    @Households1234 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wonderful video review as always. You speak English very well, and I appreciate that you are well manicured as many people don’t consider this important aspect in their videos.

  • @zosick16377
    @zosick16377 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi, can you make a video for hasselblad X2D and 907X the new version 3.2.0

  • @kurtkramer4706
    @kurtkramer4706 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The two customizable buttons a the top of the back of the camera: Can one of them be customized to be a back focus button? I have loved using back focus on Canon and Olympus cameras, with which you can focus and the camera maintains the focus distance until you choose to re-focus.

  • @domipro123
    @domipro123 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As the lens didn't change, is the image-quality (lens-quality) the same with the D-Lux 7 and the Lumix LX100II ?

  • @rsharma5901
    @rsharma5901 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you for the comparison! What is the body of the D-Lux 8 made of? Is it magnesium alloy, or some enhanced plastic for the body and the lens?

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks, please find this information in the infobox of the video, I dropped a comment there so everyone can read it :)

    • @rsharma5901
      @rsharma5901 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@mathphotographer- Thank you!

  • @nik0wat
    @nik0wat วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can the lens focus ring be used as manual zoom when in autofocus mode?

  • @acliffalay
    @acliffalay 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Its nice to see the physical differences between the two. I would be interested in what the reason was to increase the size in all dimensions. If it is better materials/better sealing/build quality, that would be a nice addition. I was using my Dlux-7 today and was appreciating how fun it is to use.

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We will see finally everything when Leica publishes specifications, so far not all details are clear yet. Curious in the same way as you are :)

  • @Brightsparks1960
    @Brightsparks1960 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Super review - thank you. We are now seeing rumours that Panasonic will be announcing a MFT camera on 5th June. I wonder if this will be the LX100iii - DLux 8 variant?

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Most likely you are right :) And thanks for the positive feedback, much appreciated.

    • @Cthames123
      @Cthames123 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe Panasonic will release the specs on it.

  • @royprasad
    @royprasad 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for a useful review. BTW, all MOS has been CMOS for the past 40 years. MOS started in two flavors, PMOS (made with P-type transistors) and NMOS (made with N-type transistors). By the late '70s, most of MOS was NMOS. But around 1980, the industry started transitioning to CMOS, which included both P and N type transistors. By the mid-1980s, pretty much all MOS was made in CMOS, and since then, MOS and CMOS have been pretty much synonymous. Both the DLUX7 and and the DLUX8 are made with CMOS sensors, as are all other digital cameras today, ranging from smart phones to the Phase One IQ4.

  • @Shawn2nd
    @Shawn2nd 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does DLUX 8 have a hyperlocal scale so one can zone focus?

  • @JohnGalt539
    @JohnGalt539 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very nice review, I bought D-lux 7 in mint condition for $700, 4 years ago from a local seller, I still have it and it’s still mint condition like the day I bought it, honestly I’ve been neglecting it and mostly using my iPhone pro, even a small camera is still to big to carry around unless I have a specific purpose, I also think my balck and silver D7 just looks better like an old school film camera, I personally see no reason to upgrade at all, I’m quite surprised Leica did it at all.

  • @sorwerk
    @sorwerk 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Design is great with the exception of the play button position which seems to me to be too close to where you will place the thumb. Very nice review as always.

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks a lot for the kind feedback.

  • @juergenstrapko7159
    @juergenstrapko7159 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    Dlux 8 would be an option with the new 25 MP Sensor..with effective 17 Mp and the old Sensor its outdated

    • @rolloffilm1996
      @rolloffilm1996 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      +

    • @MuhammadKharismawan
      @MuhammadKharismawan 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's just a re-rehash with panasonic LX100ii.

    • @HatefYaminiOnline
      @HatefYaminiOnline 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lost opportunity for Leica.

    • @alf1ash9
      @alf1ash9 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Shame that there is not much of an upgrade here. Same old 17MP 4/3 sensor! Really? Give us a 24-70mm (35mm equivalent) with a 33MP APS sensor, please!

  • @rudigerwolf9626
    @rudigerwolf9626 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Agree completely. Camera is for people who value the consistency of the interface. Like photographic “b” camera. And, let’s not forget, the entry camera into the Leica brand.

  • @benp9211
    @benp9211 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for the comprehensive video. Does the Leica D-lux 8 have the same AutoFocus as Leica Q3 or still the same old AutoFocus like D-Lux 7? And does the Leica D-Lux 8 have the Film style/Leica Looks like Q3 or none at all?
    I also notice Dlux 7 was made in China but D-lux 8 is made in Germany.
    The big factors for me would be the Autofocus, picture quality, and dynamic range.

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We will see finally everything when Leica publishes specifications, so far its not clear what all the details are, Leica just did not disclose the details yet.

  • @stanpowers600
    @stanpowers600 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very good review! I loved my LX100 until it sucked in a dust bunny that impacted every image for then on. I hope Pan/Leica has resolved this issue - but given that the camera is not touted as weather sealed, I worry. Still, may just cross my fingers and order one. Ticks so many boxes!

  • @eugenheller4182
    @eugenheller4182 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cool Video. Machst du noch ein Video mit ein paar Bildern? Beziehungsweise hast du ein paar Bilder gemacht? Das würde mich echt noch interessieren. Für Street finde ich die ziemlich cool.

  • @JMSobrevilla
    @JMSobrevilla 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Will the small flash that the Lux comes with be compatible with the Q3?

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good question. I will find out, thanks for asking.

  • @acliffalay
    @acliffalay 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The port cover design is quite different, and has ridges. Is there any gaskets which would suggest better weather sealing?

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Need to check, thanks for pointing out.

  • @classicboy97
    @classicboy97 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Let’s hope this gets Panasonic’s new PDAF lol

    • @TomWangArt
      @TomWangArt 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Let’s hope ot doesn’t. PDAF is sacrificing image quality for focusing. I’d rather have manual focus only and 100% sensor performance instead.

    • @duhbiyung
      @duhbiyung 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TomWangArt I'd prefer get less quality but perfectly focused image to perfect quality misfocused image

    • @TomWangArt
      @TomWangArt 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@duhbiyung I have no issues at all using manual focus only on my M11 but I also don't listen to TH-cam influencers who are forcing you to believe that you cant't take a single picture without a buttload of computational aids anymore. Apart from that contrast AF is actually more accurate than PDAF without sacrificing image quality, it's just not quite as fast... 🤷🏼

  • @daviddb4858
    @daviddb4858 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    In comparing the D-Lux 7 with the D-Lux 8, I am wondering about the dynamic range of each and whether they have the same processor. Since the D-Lux 7 has come out I have been using it as an everyday coat/jacket pocket camera for the days when I am not out doing more serious photography. (I would never use it on a tripod so the cable release option is not an issue, that's for my higher resolution cameras.) For me, I think the Lumix S9 is a better option to the D-Lux 8, since it can utilize all of the L mount glass. But I'll still keep the D-Lux 7 also. Thanks for the excellent overview, as always.

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We will see finally everything when Leica publishes specifications, so far its not clear what the sensor really is. Looks like kind of the same as before but CMOS instead of MOS.

  • @baraaamir7891
    @baraaamir7891 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Is there any improvement in image quality, does it have a new processor that may aid in that?

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We will see finally everything when Leica publishes specifications, so far its not clear.

    • @drs-Rigo-Reus
      @drs-Rigo-Reus 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No….. no in all aspects. Exactly the same as 7 years ago. It’s just another outer, for those in need of a ‘Leica dot’. The camera market is rotting…. Badly.

    • @Cthames123
      @Cthames123 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@drs-Rigo-Reus Not sure why one would go,with the DLUX8. Not really impressed.

  • @PixelGuy22
    @PixelGuy22 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi. Thanks for another informative video. Oddly enough I have been using the Nikon Zf for a few months now. I'm in the market for something smaller to complement my Zf. Several days ago I pre ordered both the S9 and the D-Lux 8 because I believe that they both could be in short supply. I'm primarily a photographer so the lack of an EVF on the S9 concerns me. But I've read where the screen has a very bright setting. On the other hand the full frame sensor really appeals to me.

  • @fraserharban1105
    @fraserharban1105 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice review but astonishing you don't mention the huge difference on the top that you have the manual stop adjust on the DLux 7 which is then missing in Dlux 8. I have mixed feelings about this....its wonderful to have this there as a manual disk avoiding having to go into the digital menu again ..but i could never understand why this didn't have a lock as countless times i knocked it by accident. ...

  • @Leptospirosi
    @Leptospirosi 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The D-Lux7 viewfinder is the old (2013) sequential line Panasonic viewfinder which is 16/9 native and process RGB one refresh per time. Same as on all the GX7/9 and on the LX100 line.
    The D-Lux8 has a standard 4/3 Oled which means the frame resolution is the same except cropped on the sides, which is completely inconsequential on a 4/3 sensor

  • @Joe-kw8hq
    @Joe-kw8hq 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great review. I had the original D'Lux type 109. Compared to other digicams of its time, it gave great image quality and was a pleasure to hold. However, I sold it because it was a dog of a camera to use. It was very sluggish in use, slow focus lock, proned to freezing. When reviewing images in quick successing, on reaching the 5th or 6th, it freezed and had to wait for the buffer to recover. To prevent this, I used to count to 5 before moving to the next image to review, seriously.
    To see that after almost ten years and how little they did against the enormous strides in other technologies such as cameras in smartphones, it is unforgivable. It is for Leica devotees, a little like Apple devotees, who would put up with any shortcomings of their preferred brand and pay for the asking price...
    Having said all that...I must say that the aesthetic is lovely, just like a mini Q3, an object of desire...like a Rolex watch.

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for your comment. I like in particular your last point which is spot-on: this one is beautifully designed, still capable enough for serious photography and feels a bit like an iconic piece to own, as you said, an "object of desire". Very well said!

  • @user-ms8qg2rz5s
    @user-ms8qg2rz5s 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    First, hope can see some accessory in the video.
    How Leica will keep the compact camera line with big coms, and maybe 16-50mm F1.4-2.8 lens version, and 24-280mm F2.8-5.6, RX-10 type version (with M43 cmos)

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I posted a link to all accessories in the infobox of the video.

    • @user-ms8qg2rz5s
      @user-ms8qg2rz5s 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mathphotographer thx

  • @kuau714
    @kuau714 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Which “RED” shutter release are you using

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Its from a non-brand, definitely not from Leica. It was a side gift with some other unrelated order and I forgot where I got it from, sorry. Leica sells more fancy ones, maybe worthwhile to explore in a Leica boutique.

  • @GuillaumeLefevre-zr8gm
    @GuillaumeLefevre-zr8gm 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    great video my friend :)

  • @jayrider3754
    @jayrider3754 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I need a second camera, I hesitate btw this D lux 8 and a ricoh griii, prime lense but apsc sensor, and smaller size…

  • @cameraz99
    @cameraz99 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have 3 batteries for my Panasonic GX85 that are the same size and specs of the D-Lux 8 batteries. I'm sure I will be able to use them in the Leica.

  • @ArminHirmer
    @ArminHirmer 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would have wished that Leica would have put a little more new stuff into the 8. Sensor is so so, IBIS... Lumix S9 lacks just an EVF, then it would be perfect

  • @rbmads5619
    @rbmads5619 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hmmm... 17 mp vs 60mp....what to pick?

  • @patrickkonstanz9512
    @patrickkonstanz9512 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    anybody know, if the camera is dust and weather proof?

  • @glennsak
    @glennsak 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    One thing not mentioned: The cable door has changed from a solid, spring loaded door to a rubberized, hinged flap.

  • @jcarloshugo
    @jcarloshugo 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    f you own a dlux-7, please do some side by side shots. thank you

  • @21jlxi
    @21jlxi 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So the D-Lux 8 with small sensor or S9 with no EVF, both seem to miss the mark for photographers.

  • @haarsager
    @haarsager 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for another informative video. I have the Q3 and three other recent Leica bodies plus a D-Lux 4. But the 8, S9, Fuji's VI all are what can be done in a small form factor. Toward that end, I recently got the Xiaomi+Leica 14 Ultra with photography kit, which I'm finding very interesting. It has four Sumilux lenses on the hardware side and the software side seems to be a Pro channel that seems to be influenced by Leica and the normal side which is consistent with the mobile phone community. Each side can do things that the other can't. But it can produce some great images, often in situations that I would normally think a mobile phone couldn't handle. There are many TH-cam reviews of this phone, but none I've found are done from a Leica perspective. I've seen enough to believe that the photo technology included in this phone in particular, but also other mobile phones, is going to find its way to cameras such as the ones you've featured in this overview.
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    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience, much appreciated.

  • @enigmabletchley6936
    @enigmabletchley6936 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My first Leica camera was the D-Lux 2! It was a great, great little camera and I shot the hell out of it until I got my Leica M8. However, since then Leica has lost its value to me. However, I have to say this little D-Lux 8 has a lot of very nice features, especially the MFT lens which is very similar to the Olympus m43rds system I now use. I could see how this would be a great all round second body.

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks and indeed, exactly for what you said the D-Lux 8 will find its buyers, I am sure about that :)

    • @enigmabletchley6936
      @enigmabletchley6936 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mathphotographer I have my pre-order in. I just hope Leica make enough of them and don't make us wait a year to get one.

  • @rickyzagalo
    @rickyzagalo 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mine D-Lux 7 after two and a half years started to show spots on the pictures.
    Although the Guarentee was for two years, Leica Germany didn't hesitate to clean it for no cost. Yes, it's a problem, not just from these cameras, but at least Leica gives full support to fix it.
    Now I use a leather case, a very nicely made and wonderful smelly and I hope it will help to keep the lens more protected from dust during transport.
    Before I used the grip, which was absolutely necessary to handle comfortably, now with the leather case, there is no place for the grip, but as its depth increased, there's no need anymore.
    It is not perfect, if ever there's such a camera, but it's high quality, very well built, and gives very good results. A pleasure.
    And although the main characteristics are the same, I intend to trade my 7 for this new 8, because it has small but important upgrades.

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for sharing your experience.

    • @drs-Rigo-Reus
      @drs-Rigo-Reus 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What upgrades exactly??

    • @rickyzagalo
      @rickyzagalo 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      To me, there's nothing wrong with the sensor resolution. Also, I never get a blured picture, so there is no problem with IBIS. But a tilt LCD would be an important upgrade. Nevertheless, Leica made quite a number of small upgrades, which, on the whole, make a very positive development.
      - exterior cover - premium look
      - back and buttons - premium look and more user-friendly
      - EVF Oled - better use
      - USB-C - practicality
      - LCD resolution - better use
      - Shutter release button for cable release
      - CMOS sensor - maybe the same results. Anyway, it's an upgrade.
      - Bluetooth 5.0
      - Menu structure and design
      They didn't just change the name. Watch the video

  • @markielinhart
    @markielinhart 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pity we didn’t see the telescopic attributes of the lens. A critical factor in choice…✌️

  • @Julianpms
    @Julianpms 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Too many points dependent on Leica publishing full specs. It wold have been better to wait until those specs are available. Also, what is the image quality like? Not enough to say that it's very close to the D-Lux 7, I didn't follow those reviews at the time. Sorry if I seem harsh, but this could have been a much better review.

  • @astudent1109
    @astudent1109 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting

  • @WingMan1964
    @WingMan1964 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The fact that it is made in China is a deal breaker for me.

  • @NikCan66
    @NikCan66 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Always a highlight of my weekend

  • @2003merc1
    @2003merc1 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Too bad it is only M4/3 and not aps-c for example. I need my small depth of field sometimes

  • @derrickdu
    @derrickdu 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sounded like it is a D-Lux 7 with a few minor upgrades. Picture quality is the same too.

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We will see finally everything when Leica publishes specifications, so far not all details are disclosed.

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Kids11111 Pointless to test image quality, its exactly the same image quality as I get out of my two D-Lux 7 cameras since nothing material changed w.r.t. lens and sensor. I had to give the camera back to Leica, had it only for a short time.

  • @fmiranda66
    @fmiranda66 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why was the Baby Q Made in China? They couldn't be manufactured and assembled in Germany? So why pay $1600 US that's made in China? Great storytelling but what is your great tie-down to purchasing a camera? I am not sold on it. it's just a beautiful new camera. You would think that Leica might reach out to Canadians to assemble a manufacturer of this beautiful camera in North America.

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Fair comment. Thanks for sharing.

  • @khkenny2
    @khkenny2 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    D lux 8 design looks nice but the spec quite a let-down

  • @SMGJohn
    @SMGJohn 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Imao, less buttons and a different menu, laughable 'update'

  • @ldmndz4652
    @ldmndz4652 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thank you for this..oh wow why did they go down to shutter speed of only 1/2000th? on the Lux-8 when the previous model went up to 1/4000th..thats kinda disappointing....no built in ND filter?.oh man I didn't know this is a micro 4/3 camera going in to watching this video or any info on this Leica D-Lux8...wow..its a no for me bc it is a micro 4/3 camera..lol at least I was hoping this was an APSC camera..lol to compete with the X100 bodies..lol

  • @TheObscurelord
    @TheObscurelord 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love all the negative comments on D Lux 8 so maybe i can afford to buy it in few months before the stocks go sold out ahah

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol :)

    • @TheObscurelord
      @TheObscurelord 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mathphotographer However I hope Leica doesn't use the "Fuji-strategy" of stock shortage.

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Kids11111 Haha - so much emotion for nothing :) I did not pay a single dollar for the camera since I got it as a loan from Leica, its back at the Leica Store by now :) And by the way, "suckers" is not a word we use on my channel :)

  • @corkymiller
    @corkymiller 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m sorry but no flip up screen is a deal killer for me.

  • @berkanyalcindag8730
    @berkanyalcindag8730 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Leica D Lux 8 = Leica D Lux 7 = 👎🏻

  • @rolloffilm1996
    @rolloffilm1996 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice camera for 2016.
    S9 is much interresting with 26mm lens is very compact and - 1497 $.
    D lux is more like leica - its nice... But, seriosly...
    I whant 24-70 lens with New 25mp sensor with full lens cover, with phase detect, better battery. That will be cool! But this... No... Thanks.

  • @frits1463
    @frits1463 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's a D-lux 7 with a facelift. A very expensive one. I own a Q3 and an x100v for street.

  • @andrewcrossley2448
    @andrewcrossley2448 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So order an x100VI. Bigger sensor, larger resolution, IBIS, ND, leaf shutter etc. far better value and quality….the D8 is a basic Panasonic….

  • @drs-Rigo-Reus
    @drs-Rigo-Reus 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No specs publicized? Why in Oskar Barnacks stool not?
    ‘You can take your photos, no one will notice’. Jeeeez.
    The lens should have been upgraded, this smells of selling old warehouse stock…..

  • @audizzang
    @audizzang 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    아쉽지
    1.6 크롭은 써줘야하지 않나

  • @eagleeyephoto8715
    @eagleeyephoto8715 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hmmmm spec of the camera on the left side is same as on a right side , altough you don’t need to wear camuflage uniform when shooting on street.No one will notice you in camuflage uniform on street , so I’m worried with black version. Is there any plan at Leica to remove that ugly red batch and make camera more stealt?

  • @richardh9818
    @richardh9818 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How do we say in Germany: Ei sink ei hier not reit!

  • @DavidGBlair
    @DavidGBlair 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The lack of a tilt screen kills it for me. I want to take street photos from waist level

  • @lensman5762
    @lensman5762 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Besides the new clothing on a 7 year old design, what exactly has this camera have to offer that the previous version couldn't do? The provision of the DNG is not enough, and if we believe that this camera is marketed at the kids with mobile phones on social media, an almost irrelevant feature. This camera reminds me of Hollywood actors who go under plastic surgery to rejuvenate their appearance, but underneath the hands of time has done what it always does and the age is showing. The S9 is a full frame, 25 MP camera with full phase detection AF and also low light capabilities, and it is almost as good looking as this ' new ' Leica D-Lux8. What is the point of this camera, but to cash in on the sudden popularity of the ' red cicrle '?

  • @michaeldixon8424
    @michaeldixon8424 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    fur coat no knickers!!!

  • @optikum100
    @optikum100 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What kind of pocket do you have? 😂

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Haha lol, large ones on two jackets 😂

  • @bradl2636
    @bradl2636 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Missed opportunity by Leica. I hate digging through menus for settings. Hard pass.

  • @drs-Rigo-Reus
    @drs-Rigo-Reus 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1/2000……. So 2009……

  • @henrytong8707
    @henrytong8707 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is an obvious money grab. It's the same camera from 2018 with a new body. Such a cynical marketing strategy will hurt the Leica Brand.

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes and no, I think this camera will find its buyers for sure. The aesthetics is intriguing and the "minor updates" make a big difference in practice like USB-C instead of Micro-USB, etc. :)

  • @TheDvoros
    @TheDvoros 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can’t stand you constantly picking up each camera and slamming them down.

  • @henrytong8707
    @henrytong8707 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Leica should get rid of the screen. Call it a photography only camera. Sell it for $2000.00 with a mark-up for the "Leica experience". Leica fan boys will be lining up to get it.

  • @DA-yd2ny
    @DA-yd2ny 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Looks like an overpriced 20 years old point and shoot toy.

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes and no, the overseeable upgrades make perfectly sense although the known specs look like really gradual. We will see finally everything when Leica publishes specifications, so far its not fully clear.

  • @Tekrel
    @Tekrel 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This reaks of a cash grab.

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not so sure :) Let's see how the waiting lists will get populated soon :)

  • @Benjamin_Jehne
    @Benjamin_Jehne 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The D-Lux8 is targeted directly against the Fuji X100VI. The S9 looks nice, but it feels cheap. This is a video centric camera, the D-Lux is like the Fuji, photo centric.
    So at the end you decide between the Leica, the Fuji or the Ricoh GR.
    You‘re view is to much out of the Leica box.
    The S9 just wants to look cool, but it isn’t.
    It would’ve been nice to get the new 25mpix sensor, but for what it is, the 21mpix is good enough. By the way, the new sensor is not on the low noise side. It needs the iso100.
    From my perspective, this camera will sell like hot cakes and Fuji will think about its low production strategy, when the D-Lux 8 will hit the market. These cameras are sone kind of accessories for people who by the Fuji, and the Leica brand has more prestige and is way more beautiful. So yeah, Leica steps into an intersting market situation.

    • @mathphotographer
      @mathphotographer  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Spot-on comment in your conclusion which starts with "From my perspective ...", thanks Benjamin. This market is super hot and super hyped and the D-Lux 8 will hit the nerve of that market.

    • @Benjamin_Jehne
      @Benjamin_Jehne 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mathphotographer I work for Sony, so I get directly in touch with the customers. The demand for this type of camera is just huge. We only have the RX100VA/VII but even these compacts are on high demand. A year ago, just older customers asked for these cameras, now it’s the complete range of ages.