When you bowl a 279 and LOSE...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- If you bowl a 279 against your opponent, you would expect to win the match quite convincingly. However, in this CRAZY PBA telecast, a 279 game was not enough to win the match. Today we break down the entire show as it was absolutely insane!
How would you feel if you bowled a 279 game and lost?
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I'm not a hundred percent on the details but either that day or years later they asked Parker about the ten pin and he said himself there was blatent interference and he had no issue with the do over. Absolutely class act
You are correct
I’m going to ask Parker about that later today. Definitely a crazy rule that Pete would have loved.
@@joluma09
Two completely different personalities The 3RD is an awesomely awesome human being, where as "PDW" is a POG worst person i ever met
I've found that most professionals would rather lose in a fair fight than win in an unfair one.
That's not to say there aren't pros who would sell their own grandmother for a 0.1% advantage...
I remember watching this match live and yeah Parker absolutely said years later he was interfered with, and had no issue.
I know haters will hate, but I think that telecast was just amazing. I wouldn't want the scores to be that high most of the time, but it's really fun to watch every once in a while.
in china you can also lose even with 300 score
because china has 11 pins
I watched this live telecast. Bob Learn Jr. was unstoppable!
I thought they were in a liplock!😂3:13
This wasn't the first time this has happened on on TV, either. Gotta go back 3 years prior to the 1993 Wichita Open, where David Ozio shot 279 and lost to Mike Aulby (who shot 300). Also, in the 1994 True Value Open, Norm Duke shot 280 and lost to Bryan Goebel (who shot 296). Those were both incredible matches as well!
The first telecast with PBA back on ESPN had Pete weber vs Michael Haugen jr and I remember Pete shooting a 299 vs Haugen's 290 or 279
This same tournament the year before in 1995 also produced some ridiculous scoring. Wiseman and Edwards in particular in match two, I would recommend you check that tournament out.
@@tackywacky99 289 Pete Weber, Michael Haugen Jr. 279.
Amazing bowling. I remember bowling behind Randy when he was still a youngster. He got the first 11 strikes and sat down next to me and said “how are you doing?” I smiled and said “just fine, Randy”. Unfortunately, he left a ten pin on the last ball for a 299. But it was a very exciting and memorable night for me. My score? I don’t remember other than I was inspired by Randy and it was over 200. 😄
1129 series for 4 games and the title. Arguably the greatest title in the history of the PBA
I saw a friend of mine lose with a 299 game in a tournament. It was an awesome match to watch.
Some pins will go down for some but not others unfortunately, I guess that's just the nature of bowling, must have felt devastated of the outcome, but can be proud that he was apart of a high scoring game that not many people have achieved, kudos to him!
That is absolutely insane
Erie in 1996 was an extreme outlier but a lot of those arena finals in that era had very high scoring paces. You can tell the PBA and ABC were starting to hurt a bit on the ratings side around this era (and this borne out as true as 1997 was the last year ABC did the PBA); they needed to get some more flash into these telecasts, and having a brutal pattern in front of 3 or 4 thousand people wasnt' the answer. From what I understand, these arena lanes were often as close to being tricked up while still being legal (really lively pin decks, shallow flat gutters to allow for good pin carry and couple that with some pretty serious miss room, relative to what these boys would get in an actual house). Btw, this is taking nothing away from Learn who was possessed that day and repeated as well as anyone I have seen in terms of shot-making. He was called Mr. 300 for a reason. He had something like 60 of them at that point in time where 300 was still kind of uncommon (at least relative to today's rates of honour scores).
So basically, a THS for pros.
@@mtrithartTHS?
@@planetx1595 Typical House Shot. Basically heavier oil in the middle and tapered lighter as it gets to the gutter. Allows a bowler to miss right or left and ball will still get to the pocket.
@@mtrithart Thanks
I watched that telecast. Amazing bowling by all competitors that day.
The do over on the 10 pin is definitely controversial. I disagree with the rule because it’s easy for a pro to say that he was distracted by someone in the crowd, hence how we still don’t know who Pete Weber was really talking to, or if he just made them up. However, if it was a proper distraction then I can understand it, but I think either way it makes much more sense today that once the ball is in play, there’s no going back no matter what. I mean that’s why it’s within a players judgement to bawk right?
Bawk? 🙂
I think the controversy also was because some of the tin-foil hatters were claiming there was a bit of home team call to it. Remember, Bob Learn Jr. is from Erie. I don't think the call was off base, if you look at those arena set ups at the time people were surrounding you on all sides and were very close to you compared to how shows are set up in a bowling centre.
I remember watching that live on TV . Learn was unconscious that day . Incredible performance by all of them . The sad thing was it marked the end of 3 legendary HOF commentators Bo Burton Chris Schenkel and Jim McCay ABCs wide world of sports
I've saved this hopefully. My favourite thing to watch when I'm feeling down . One of the best matches ever, even though PB3 is one of my favourite bowlers.
My oldest son was born on this day. I still watched it. Randy Petersen was the only one to ever miss the pocket. He missed once.
I bowled a 279 and lost to a woman with a 115 average who bowled a 204 because of handicap. It was a tough day.
Wow I actually bowled at Eastway Lanes for the first time this past season
Went from 147 to 164 average this year..
Love that place, the people who own/run the place are very friendly and care about maintaining the lanes an house in general
Wow though that 10pin reshot made all the difference, was that person who caused the distraction removed from the place?
For any bowlers in the NY/PA area highly recommend Eastway Lanes
To average a 283.5 just is amazing although I don't think oil patterns were an issue back then
About 2 years ago in my league, on the pair next to the one I was on, one guy threw a 299, and LOST(!!) when his opponent shot a 300!!
I remember watching this live, great show
Could you please make a video on whos made the most major championship shows within the last decade? That would be awesome! We can see whos been under the radar good.
I watched this live when it happened. Bob Learn was locked in like I’ve never seen. It was crazy.
Start ot the offset cores and scores went up at all levels. Great bowling...
I remember watching that live. Was a hell of a day.
Norm Duke lost a title match with a 280 against Bryan Goebel back in 1994 😵💫
And I think David Ozio lost 300-279 to Mike Aulby in a title match.
Yep. 280 is the highest losing score in a televised title match. 300-279 is the highest combined score on a TV title match
I believe Goebel shot 296
@@Stormsfury777 Yes your right! 👍🏻✌🏻
The Right Lane
Some have speculated the reason there were Arena finals/high scoring conditions was that it was a way for ABC to get more viewers; as ratings for the PBA tour were falling dramatically in the 90's. Plus they wanted to appeal to a younger demographic.
That's why in Erie they call it Easyway lanes.
I watched this, when it happenned. It was later learned, that the lanes were especially set up for ultra high scoring...not really an honest contest. Lots of oil inside, and little on the outside.
TAKING DOWN ALL THOSE LEFTIES! AWESOME TO THE MAX! BOB LEARN JUNIOR SHOWS YOU HOW!
Good vid mate , remember when I needed a 300 for us to win the point and got 299 for a draw 😂
I remember that tournament.
Great job on everyone
I beat a dude during a pro-am match 300-279 back in 1998, also against a local home town favorite. The crowd tried their best to disrupt me...Nope. beat him then missed final match by 5 pins. My hand was torn up and bloody, had issues with release, that was my demise. I ended up 3rd for the tournament. Best finish I ever had.
To this day you cant convince me they weren't bowling on some manner of house shot. Everyone had 3 boards that day
I think this is when reactive bowling balls first started coming out. The shot was basically easier than a house shot because of reactive. It was because of this tournament, the PBA started implementing tougher oil patterns.
@@zacharytackett6957 this was in 1996, around the beginning of what I like to call the "wild west" era of reactive balls. Some of these balls you could literally over power lanes with reactive, and you could do it how you pleased.
one of my favorite balls to this day is still in my bag, Brunswick Red Alert Nightflash. Got it when I was 16 - 24 years ago.
While I do not exactly what this pattern was I bowled my first PBA regional in 99. I heard the East region tournament director Russ Mills saying the pattern for this event was the same as the national tour stop from Erie where all the scoring records were set.
While I did not start out so hot. Once I got lined up the pattern was pretty soft. If I knew what I know now about bowling when I bowled my first regional I probably would have made the top 16 matchplay for that event.
But if what Russ Mills said was true about the pattern being used from Erie ask the people who bowled A squad that day if we we're bowling on a House Shot. Nobody from A squad made the top 16 for match play.
Great video. What a show that must have been live.
You asked what Petraglia would be feeling to lose with 279? Since Petraglia was already a PBA legend, and was already among the (then) small group of PBA bowlers with a televised 300 game, I'd say he was happy for Learn Jr. He certainly seemed to be so on the telecast.
Johnny Petraglia shot 300 in his prior TV appearance. He became the first bowler to shoot 300 on TV, AND have 300 shot at him on TV.
Years back I lost a match shooting 290 against my opponents 300 in tournament play. 😢
Kellie Kraft versus VIrginia Norton match play Kraft strikes out for 279 and so does Norton. bummer for both of us.
WHAT THE BARNACLES!?!?!? -🦀⛵ 📣 3:12
Very interesting video!
Incredible bowling.I once shot a 300 and lost to a guy who shot 305 with his handicap lol
I bowled a 308…. I bowled a 300, then went out to eat!!!😂🤪
I bowled a 301 (300 and won)
George Santos?
I remember seeing a game where they tied at over 290, i think it was martin larsson
Spellcheck be damned. It is candlepin.
Bob had such a good day
3:40 - 4:15
That rule should still be in effect. Sure, spectators of a match should cheer and enjoy themselves, but they need to have courtesy at the same time.
They should get rid of laneside seating. It's an obvious distraction and has cost players titles. See Chris Barnes at the 2017 Oklahoma Open as an example.
Petraglia is a class act anyway but was especially happy for Learn having shot a $100K 300 game himself within the past year at Imperial in Toledo.
3:12-3:13 MWAAAAH!
Now kith
Greatest PBA Tournament of All Time.
That was some good bowling but Bob misses that 10pin and that that !!
The ads are coming closer and closer together. When I first stopped watching bowling on youtube? This is why. Will stop watching again.
Norm duke versus Brian Goebell in Peoria in the final match.
1987 in a junior tournament team event in San F rancisco I lost my point 268 to 279 to Chris Barnes' wife Linda Norrie (at the time)
I can't figure out how the shot never appeared to change. It's like the oil never moved or was removed.
Bowling doesn't need cheerleaders dude. I guess golf will have them next.
AMF Pearl RPM ❤️
Bottom line none of that happens if they don’t give him the only do over in national television history. Period
Do you actually know that there have never been any other do-overs?
having cheerleaders is crazy now lmfao😅 he made it worth it tho he went off
Welp it does happen
How about bowling a 289 and losing? I shot 290 my opponent shot 289 with the front 10.
Which means you were behind in the match from frame 2, until your opponent left a single pin in the 11th. Way to stay with it! 👍
@@pamelabarbee2487 he left the 10 pin lol
What was your leave in the 2nd? 10 pin?
@@pamelabarbee2487 7 pin in the first
I got swept shooting 279- 750 by 300 - 800
Norm Duke shot 280 in a title match once and lost to Bryan Goebel who shot a 296
If i adverage. A 279. I would be a Superstar.
Imagine a 257 was the lowest score 😮.
YOU HAVE TO CHEAT TO WIN. IF THE BALL GOES IN THE GUTTER. YOU DON'T BOWL AGAIN.
What if instead of throwing the front 11 Mika won the match with a 101
101-100 would certainly be something
Glad to see no one is complaining about the one handed style of Learn like so many do of Belmonte.
Bob Learn’s approach was unique, in that he cupped/cradled the ball, but when he was on target, he was unstoppable
Didn’t Aulby beat Ozio 300-279 in 1997 too?
yes. Northrock Lanes
Wow, I actually urinated in my pant while watching this. ! I'm a serious bowler!
It's actually 92/100 you win. 1/100 you tie 7/100 you lose.
Everyone brought THEIR A GAME and still lose. Nothing to be ashamed of.
That 10 pin re-do was BS. Nowadays fans are yelling, clapping, and cheering when players are making their approach. Doesn't seem to 'distract' them.
When I was a kid, my whole family would watch bowling every week. I thought $30K was a crazy amount of $.
They cant even buy a Great used car today.
Back then it was
30k back then is worth about 60k now
🎳 Bob Learn Jr. Was the man that day I watched that match on TV and I could not believe what I was watching it was totally off the chain.
I beat armondo Godoy 300-279 for $20
and bowling has been going downhill ever since.
Nice seeing real bowling with one hand and not this 2 hand crap
Bro averaged 282 and won 130k….
From start to finish on this Telecast, Bob Learn shot
300
270
279
280
He averaged 280 a game, And his opponents were not slouches either, their total games averaged to about 271 a game. And he only missed 4 strikes the entire telecast, meaning that he threw 44/48 Strikes, a 91% Strike percentage
This was one of the highest scoring PBA events in history. And it shattered records.
This show was so bogus. Learn was crowned based on this show alone, and if not for that do-over he wouldn’t even have won.
Dude bowled a 279 and lowered his average by a pin lmao.
I bowled a 299.5 and lost once by half a point
Demand four pound pins
not good enough rannndy
modern pins balls and lanes have made bowling junk
Great recap, but as others have noticed there are similar, high-scoring legendary matchups! One that comes to mind is Pete Weber vs. Michael Haugen Jr
That was amazing by all!
I remember that telecast. Very electric. They all made it look like a house pattern. Incredible display..