The Sound of the Proto-Germanic language (Numbers, Vocabulary & Story)

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  • @jeffkardosjr.3825
    @jeffkardosjr.3825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +834

    Words are quite recognizable even with modern English.

    • @Luger0312
      @Luger0312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      Yes, alot of them. Even more in german. Sometimes for the same word, there is one that sounds like tje mordern english word and one that sounds like the modern german word.

    • @jasperzanjani
      @jasperzanjani 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      No they are not

    • @NaudizAshildr
      @NaudizAshildr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      ​@@jasperzanjani yes they are! I learned fuþark a while ago and got the majority from just reading the middle column, while covering the left and right side. I also made a long text document with every single one that is a cognate to modern English or Swedish (Mostly english because my Swedish blows).

    • @jasperzanjani
      @jasperzanjani 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@NaudizAshildr I challenge you to play this audio without subtitles to any modern English speaker and find anyone who would claim to recognize even 5 words. you might be able to thread the needle because of your knowledge, but not many others have it

    • @somedude151
      @somedude151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you can undertsand every single word until its said

  • @jsv8898
    @jsv8898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    King -> Kuningaz (Proto-Germanic) -> Kuningas (Finnish)
    Ruler -> Druhtinaz (Proto-Germanic) -> Ruhtinas (Finnish)
    Wise -> Wīsaz (Proto-Germanic) -> Viisas (Finnish)
    Ring -> Hrengaz (Proto-Germanic) -> Rengas (Finnish)
    There are countless words in Finnish that end with "-as" and they are almost always directly borrowed from Proto-Germanic.

    • @noahtylerpritchett2682
      @noahtylerpritchett2682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Loanwords always get preserved better from a language. Also this debunks the idea of Uralic people not being contemporary of Germanic people mean they must of arrived at Scandinavia at the exact same time

  • @raylue6273
    @raylue6273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    I'm German and I love seeing all those 'unnecessary' writing irregularities make sense when you see how they were written and/or pronounced in Proto-Germanic.
    A lot of the vocabulary shown here still is in the German language.
    "ubilaz", for example, was very interesting to me because in German the general word for bad is "schlecht" but we do also have "übel" meaning almost the same thing.
    This is just a guess but I also made the connection "übel" > "evil" in English because the pronounciation is so so similar and meaning wise it also makes a lot of sense :)
    edit: I just checked and they are indeed all related. That is soo interesting. I really love how looking back makes you grab the logic and also the irregularities of languages so much more.

  • @Dara-qv8wn
    @Dara-qv8wn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +228

    Some similar words with Iranian languages:
    1. stōraz [big]
    stōrg (Middle Persian)
    2. skurtaz [short]
    kurt (Kurdish)
    3. mōdēr [mother]
    mâdar (Persian)
    4. fadēr [father]
    pedar (Persian)
    5. standaną, stāną [to stand]
    istâdan (Persian)
    stân (Kurdish)
    6. wrībaną [to rub]
    robudan (Persian)
    ? farib [cheat] (Persian)
    7. bindaną [to tie]
    bandidan, bastan (Persian)
    bandin (Kurdish)
    8. mēnô [moon]
    mânga (Avesta)
    mâng (Kurdish)
    9. sternō [star]
    stârag (Middle Persian)
    setâre (Persian)
    strêra (Kurdish)
    10. erþō [earth]
    ard (Kurdish)
    erde (Armenian)
    11. snaiwaz [snow]
    snezag (Middle Persian)
    12. brinnaną [to burn]
    beryândan [to grill] (Persian)
    13. dagaz [day]
    tâg, dâg, tâk (Middle Persian)
    14. niwjaz [new]
    nawa (Avesta)
    now (Persian)
    15. namō [name]
    nâman (Avesta)
    nâm (Persian)
    I also found some words just with the same roots.

  • @stonefaceBRC
    @stonefaceBRC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +929

    English: Woman
    Proto-Germanic: Queen 🥺

    • @anderzzzzz
      @anderzzzzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +216

      Modern Swedish: Kvinna

    • @stonefaceBRC
      @stonefaceBRC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@anderzzzzz how interesting!

    • @charbelyounes5188
      @charbelyounes5188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +237

      English: man
      Proto Germanic: simp

    • @snoogkies
      @snoogkies 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      You are my world, my angle, don’t treat me like potato

    • @benny704
      @benny704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Dass yew guurlll !

  • @LukasAndalus
    @LukasAndalus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +464

    It’s impressive to see how so much core modern English is still recognizably close to its Proto-Germanic roots!

  • @ZombolicBand
    @ZombolicBand 3 ปีที่แล้ว +272

    If i travel back in time to germania, lile, 300 bc, and count to 10 in Swedish, they will understand me. Its amazing.

    • @nereus246
      @nereus246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      In Germany it's basically the same.

    • @beyondrecall9446
      @beyondrecall9446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      well, in almost any Indo-european language. as a slavic language speaker, I was,back in high school, amazed to hear numbers in sanskrit .. so similar yet so far away .. even with germanic languages, when you go back in time, you realize more and more similarities .. it's amazing.. linguistics is so full of secrets and languages and writing is something that we should all be into, just to learn how amazing all of our histories are and that we should learn to respect each other's histories, traditions because, if you go waaaay back, we share something from the past that we will sadly never know .. I've always loved the north, unlike all of my peers who dream about going to the Caribbean islands or some hot places, I've always dreamt of visiting and even living North... such beauty in the snowy forests and mountains. One love for Sweden from Serbia

    • @RobbeSeolh
      @RobbeSeolh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Some dialects still say fimf for 5 in Germany.

    • @GhTamas
      @GhTamas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RobbeSeolh where is this ü come from in the neogermanic languages?

    • @sehabel
      @sehabel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@RobbeSeolh My Austrian grandmother says "femf"

  • @sven1161
    @sven1161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Wow, so "Hwat" was actually the correct pronunciation all along.

  • @TenorCantusFirmus
    @TenorCantusFirmus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +548

    On one side, you can still very clearly see the kinship with Latin, Greek and other Indo-European language.
    On the other, if some people still had doubts about English being a "fully" Germanic language, here it is: not only its syntax and grammar is clearly closer to that of the other Germanic languages than it is to Romance ones, but its "core" vocabulary also clearly has a fully Germanic origin.

    • @stonefaceBRC
      @stonefaceBRC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Yes 1000 times. As an English speaker you might be surprised how much you can understand from the other Germanic languages if you listen closely

    • @choonbox
      @choonbox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      When you compare English to another Western Germanic tongue (NL/BE) you can see striking similarities. Also it's been said Dutch/Flemish & Afrikaans would be the easiest language to learn as an Anglophone:
      some examples:
      friend - vriend
      fingers - vingers
      chin - kin
      school - school
      Self - Zelf
      Smuggle - Smokkel
      What do the following sentences mean in English?
      - Dat is goed nieuws!
      - De beer dronk bier.
      - We relaxen in de zon.
      BONUS: Frisian is a sister language of English, originally spoken along the Northwestern coast of Europe. English is in the anglo-frisian group:
      - Butter, Brea & Grien Tsiis is goed Engels an goed Frysk
      - Butter, Bread & Green Cheese is good English and good Frisian.
      _Apart from 'Engels' and 'Frysk' it's pronounced exactly the same_

    • @jeffkardosjr.3825
      @jeffkardosjr.3825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Nah. Don't so easily disregard modern English's Latin origins.

    • @independentthought3390
      @independentthought3390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      ​@@jeffkardosjr.3825 Not so much latin, but later French additions. Also, Norwegian is pretty close to English.

    • @westelaudio943
      @westelaudio943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@choonbox
      True, but cognates of "school" are used in both Latin and Germanic languages and they most likely stem from Greek. Probably because the Greeks introduced the concept of school to the rest of Europe.
      So there is no truly Germanic word for school except for later descriptions or slurs.
      "Relax" is also from French/Latin.

  • @huttonmoon
    @huttonmoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    I’m super impressed by the pronunciation and quality here. Thank you!

  • @frzferdinand72
    @frzferdinand72 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    There are so many Modern English words you can recognize. "Husband" is bridegroom. "Bird" is fowl. "Dog" is hound. "Flower" is bloom. "Bark" is both bark and hide. "Smell" is both smell and reek. "Die" is both die and starve. "Tie" is bind. "Road" is way. "Black" is also swarthy. "Dull" is slow. Many of these other words I can't immediately recognize also exist in rural UK dialects.
    It's interesting to see how some of the original Proto-Germanic words changed meanings in English. The word for "river" ended up becoming "flood" in Modern English. "Animal" now means just deer.

  • @SongbirdAlom
    @SongbirdAlom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    I love that you plural is "juz." It gives hearing people say "Hey yous guys," a historical context.

    • @gunnara.7860
      @gunnara.7860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Wait, do people actually say "yous" in plural like that? I'm not a native English speaker, so I don't know.

    • @fidenemini111
      @fidenemini111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The same in Lithuanian juz=jūs. Then ainaz = vienas, Þrīz = trys.

    • @yaelthesnail
      @yaelthesnail 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@gunnara.7860 Only in certain American dialects, specifically from the Northeast. It's considered an amusing feature of their speech by other English speakers.

    • @326Alan
      @326Alan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@yaelthesnail (and in British English and Irish English dialects)

    • @EdsondoCarmoOoO
      @EdsondoCarmoOoO 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gunnara.7860 is Just a comparison

  • @jojo.s_bekaar_adventures
    @jojo.s_bekaar_adventures 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    the -aną suffix for infinitives is actually also used in some Indo-Aryan languages as -na suffix, e.g. in Hindustani
    to eat - khána
    to bathe - nahána
    to call - bulána
    to tease - satána
    to wake - jagána

  • @dragondov
    @dragondov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    Beautiful languages, lands, cultures and people. Love Germania.

    • @connorgioiafigliu
      @connorgioiafigliu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      no doubt

    • @sylamy7457
      @sylamy7457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I still cringe till this day when people say all the germanic languages come from German. Because they share a similar name, Germanic is the region, and German is the modern language that resides in that region.

    • @sylamy7457
      @sylamy7457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      By the way, I'm not accusing you, I'm just saying that because you saying Germania reminded me of people that get simple things mixed up.

    • @luciathesylveon8082
      @luciathesylveon8082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@sylamy7457 Yes that's true. English, Germans, Swiss, Austrians, Swedes, Danes and Norse ppl lived once in one region till they developed their own language, made a language shift and wandered around till they got where they are now.
      Anglish from the land of Angels how it was called back then turned once into England. They spoke old English and then the Vikings invaded their country and the Vikings had influenced the English language. So England took many words from the Vikings old norse. Baka means back. And there are more words like that.
      Danish and Swedish people lived once in Denmark and Sweden, both countries were just called Denmark till they had war and then they got their own divided countries: Sweden and Denmark.
      I don't know how it was with Americans or other countries like New Zealand, Australia or Canada I wished I know.
      The German language comes from Old High German. There is still a song written in Old High German, it's called Hildebrandslied the song of Hildebrand. There are many versions of that song.
      The Old High Germans battled with spear's. The country they lived in were once called spearland. They spoke old high german and wrote in runes.
      They were a pagan folk. They celebrated the solstice and the winter turn. They believed in norse gods and wrote magic spells with runes.
      I find this as a German very interesting. Also the Old High German had once a word shift and the letters changed quite a bit and then the language evolved into Middle High German
      Which I find quite nice except the word foot 👣 sounds like vuoz, which in modern German sounds like "Pfurz" "fart" in english but it actually meant foot back in that day. Except that, I like the intonation of the language and there were many beautiful words that were erased from the modern High German.
      Sometime Swiss and Austria had their own countries but we never had a war with them if I recall correctly.
      Germania was a region were Old High German lived in.
      But it got into Deutschland in the end of the middle High German epoch, when Martin Luther translated the Bible into German he dissolved the Middle High German and created High German which it's spoken till this days.

    • @luciathesylveon8082
      @luciathesylveon8082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @dragondov you are right Germany was called Germania even if English, Danes, Swedish and Germans lived all together the region was later called what it is today Germany.

  • @matteo91ization
    @matteo91ization 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I love your work! I come from Lusern, a little town in Trentino-SouthTyrol (Italy). The people of Lusern are the last people in the World that speak in Cimbrian, a old bavarian dialect. We are a minority language and our language have 700 years old.

  • @markusass
    @markusass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The reason why English resonates more is because it still uses the runic sounds for wyn (w) and thorn( th). They've been lost in all the other west germanic languages.

  • @ANTSEMUT1
    @ANTSEMUT1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Loving the Futhark script.

    • @jojo.s_bekaar_adventures
      @jojo.s_bekaar_adventures 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that looks like a curse word😂😂

    • @hakanstorsater5090
      @hakanstorsater5090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@jojo.s_bekaar_adventures Seems like runic writing actually was used already in the late stages of Proto-Germanic/ Common Germanic. Very few comprehensible inscriptions are preserved from that era, though.

    • @ANTSEMUT1
      @ANTSEMUT1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@hakanstorsater5090 if it's anything like say later early Norse it would have been used for short inscriptions like a name of a place or a famous warrior's name. Never a whole corpus of text which is a shame, it would have been so cool to read Proto-Germanic sagas.

  • @MajesticSkywhale
    @MajesticSkywhale 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    holy shit "youse guys" might be archaically correct, how about that

    • @NaudizAshildr
      @NaudizAshildr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lmao thats what I thought

  • @voicelessglottalfricative6567
    @voicelessglottalfricative6567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    gumo = homo
    kweno = gwen = queen
    kinþa = kinder

  • @andreiii204
    @andreiii204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    Gothic might be the closest Germanic language to proto Germanic

    • @williamramsey9140
      @williamramsey9140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Makes sense, as it's the oldest substantially recorded Germanic language (and therefore the least removed from Proto-Germanic).

    • @ktx1234
      @ktx1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Very difficult question.That Scandinavian substrate. Proto Germanic should sound more like Indo-European.

    • @dunnohow2live997
      @dunnohow2live997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Proto-Norse (ancestor for all north-germanic languages) is the oldest attested germanic language actually, but has much lesser remaining inscriptions. Possibly it's other one written germanic language (apart gothic and other attested east-germanic inscriptions) that also has unchanged "-az/-as" ending in words.

    • @duwang8499
      @duwang8499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Actually it's Proto-Norse.

    • @blothhundssbh1055
      @blothhundssbh1055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Proto-Norse, although only attested in few rare inscriptions, was probably even closer... compare PGmc *hurną, Gothic haúrn, Proto-Norse horna, or PGmc *þewaz, Gothic þius, Proto-Norse þewaz.

  • @smiedranokatirova5987
    @smiedranokatirova5987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    Plz do more proto-languages
    Love from Iraq

    • @beyondrecall9446
      @beyondrecall9446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      one love from Serbia! I am curious if you can tell me about the Arabic languages .. In iraq, you speak Standardized Arabic but the Arabic speaking region is so big so can you understand someone from Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Lybia, for example? does the language change very much through different countries ? Being from Serbia, in school, I was thought some Old Slavic and the letter system of that period, our languages were just dialects at time .. they are different languages now but not so different as, like german and english or icelandic .. it was very easy for me to have a basic conversation with a slovak after a few months living in Bratislava .. the further you go, the more different it gets .. so I was always wondering how is it with Arabic, can you understand people from different arab countries?

    • @masterjunky863
      @masterjunky863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Smerdano in italian means "they ruin everything" lol

    • @martinokhalil4900
      @martinokhalil4900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@beyondrecall9446 Arabic dialects are as different as Romance languages because each dialect is so affected by the original language of the country before Arabic

    • @charbelyounes5188
      @charbelyounes5188 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have the written/read Arabic (unchanged), and the spoken (usually casual) Arabic, which differs from country to country. I'm from Lebanon, I might understand most of the Syrian and Iraqi dialect, but be a bit confused with the Egyptian/North African one, cz casual/slang words are misunderstood.

    • @smiedranokatirova5987
      @smiedranokatirova5987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@beyondrecall9446 understanding other Arabic dialects for Iraqis is as easy for an Old church Slavonic to understand Slavic languages, but Arabs understanding Mesopotamian Iraqi is as hard as a half Czech half German trying to understand Russian
      It’s more diverse as Romance or Slavic languages
      Also Salute to Slavonian Srbija from Mesopotamian Irak 🇮🇶🇷🇸♥️

  • @bernhardwall6876
    @bernhardwall6876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    How amazing it is that, in cases where the speaker gave two translations of one word, you can see how one translation became a modern English word, and the other modern German.

    • @gilbeer.t
      @gilbeer.t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes,also in dutch
      Proto-germannic.raukoz,smaukiz
      Engels. Smoking
      Dutch.roken

    • @robertyoung9611
      @robertyoung9611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@gilbeer.t raukoz became English reek

    • @Luger0312
      @Luger0312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@robertyoung9611
      Or dutch roken and german rauchen.

    • @westelaudio943
      @westelaudio943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@robertyoung9611
      Nope.
      "reukana" became English "reek" and German "riechen"

    • @Dai_Abdurrahman
      @Dai_Abdurrahman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ja schau mal bei beinem Germanischen Sprachen Video vorbei dann sollte dir das besser klar werden:)

  • @luciathesylveon8082
    @luciathesylveon8082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I'm German and I recognize many words from German but also English words. It's interesting to see how the language changed and how it once was spoken.

  • @danielvanmiddeldijk5711
    @danielvanmiddeldijk5711 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Even 2000+ years later we Germans can still hear many of the words and even some grammar from Proto-Germanic!
    It is intriguing to see how our language and numerous dialects/cultures have evolved over time…

  • @fidenemini111
    @fidenemini111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ok, so what I managed to find is following:
    ainaz = vienas
    twai = dveji
    þrīz = trys
    fedwōr = keturi
    fimf = penki
    sehs = šeši
    sebun = septyni
    ahtōu = aštuoni
    newun = devyni
    tehun = dešimt
    ek = aš
    þū = tu
    iz = jis
    jūz = jūs
    hiz = šis
    hwaz = kas
    hwar = kur
    ne = ne
    anþeraz = antras (modern meaning "second" with synoniming meaning "other")
    stōraz = storas (meaning "thick")
    anguz = ankštas
    gumô = žmogus (žmuo - reconstructed neutral form - progenitor of masculine "žmogus" and feminine "žmona" - derives from "žemė" - "erth" "ground")
    weraz = vyras
    mōdēr = moteris (meaning "woman")
    wurmiz - kirmis (kirmėlė, kirminas)
    laubą = lapas
    ausô = ausis
    tanþs = dantis
    naglaz = nagas
    þarmaz = žarnos
    hnakkô = kaklas
    spīwaną = spjauti (spjaunu - I spit, for „vomit“ we have „vemti“)
    dailijaną = dalinti
    hnīpaną = gnybti, gnaibyti
    siwjaną = siūti
    sagjaną = sakyti
    sōwulō = saulė
    mēnō = mėnuo
    raukiz - rūkas (rūkti, rūkyti - to smoke)
    raudaz = raudonas (raudas - reddish brown)
    gelwaz - geltonas, geltas
    nahts = naktis
    kaldaz = šaltas
    niwjaz = naujas
    in = į (in - an older form, still used in dialects)
    awiz = avis
    exwōz = ašvos (plural, "ašva" - singular, an old form, still used in dialects)
    wullō - vilnos (Genitive, "vilna" - Nominative)
    gumanų = žmogų (Accusative)
    sagdē = pasakė (Past Indefinite tense)
    hauzi = klausyk (Imperative mood)
    awi = avie (Vocative)
    ne isti = nesti (ne esti) - an old form, still used in dialects

  • @umashi4437
    @umashi4437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    Can you do Proto-Turkic or comparaison between Proto-Turkic and Proto-Mongolic please ? It would be very interesting.

    • @sandu-vd7fi
      @sandu-vd7fi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Also interesting is to compare Proto-Japonic, Proto-Tungusic and Proto-Koreanic with this 2 languages.

    • @DoctorDeath147
      @DoctorDeath147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Altaic

    • @umashi4437
      @umashi4437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@sandu-vd7fi I don't think these languages were very similar, even if they are maybe related. Maybe Proto-Japonic and Proto-Korean in a next video.

    • @sandu-vd7fi
      @sandu-vd7fi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@DoctorDeath147 , Altaic languges are rejected by many linguists , because they affirm that similarities between these languages(japonic, koreanic, turkic, mongolic and tungusic languages) it is due to the long contact between the speakers of these languages.
      But, when japonic and turkic people interacted? I believe never, because area occupied by japonic people is far away from area of turkic languages' native speakers. The single mood to explain the similarities is the common origin.
      In conclusion, Altaic languages exist.

    • @Nomadicenjoyerplus
      @Nomadicenjoyerplus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@DoctorDeath147 there is no such thing as Altaic

  • @WobblyCube
    @WobblyCube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    As a Belgian who speaks Dutch, I could understand nearly al words. If they didn't sound Dutch (or German, the languages are very similar) then I could understand based on English. It's surprising how close our languages still are to Proto-Germanic.

  • @Celtjak7
    @Celtjak7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    This is almost like a combination of Dutch and English, so for a Dutch like me, I can understand almost everything haha

    • @kame9
      @kame9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      en ook een duitse

    • @gilbeer.t
      @gilbeer.t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@kame9 klopt dit is als een combinatie van alle Germaanse talen bv.nederlands,duits, Engels en de Scandinavische talen ✔️

    • @JustAToeBee
      @JustAToeBee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      i mostly hear german in it, but it's not that i say "germans are the OG germanics" thats just because it is my native language and humans will try to make sense of it by comparing it with something they already know.

    • @Luger0312
      @Luger0312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@JustAToeBee
      As german who did learn some dutch in school, almost all words that sound german to you also sound dutch. The languages aren't that far apart. Some of the things that sound english, also sound dutch, as dutch and german are very close but dutch and english have some similar words, too.

    • @r.v.b.4153
      @r.v.b.4153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It's a combination of all Germanic languages, because that's how it was created. They compared all modern Germanic languages and all documented Germanic languages throughout history (e.g. runic inscriptions and medieval manuscripts of monasteries). By seeing the differences throughout time and between regions, they can make reliable argumentations as to why a certain word must have been pronounced in a certain way. There are uncertainties here and there, but we can be sure about some linguistical changes.

  • @gula_rata
    @gula_rata 3 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    They should have used this language in the Netflix series BARBARIANS.

    • @MMadesen
      @MMadesen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      This language is even more ancient, than the series.
      The Barbarians would speak a form of west germanic.
      But since the Germans didnt write much, its mostly reconstructed and woudnt be really accurate to the actual tongue spoken back then.
      The latin on the other hand comes from written sources from this time period and is pretty accurate to actual latin spoken in that era.

    • @adlerzwei
      @adlerzwei 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Barbarians is a german show. The primary audience are germans not ancient proto germanic tribes. -.-

    • @markiec8914
      @markiec8914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@adlerzwei exactly...They would need to have subtitles for their own modern German speaking audiences to understand it 😂

    • @dannicron
      @dannicron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@MMadesen Not unlikely that the West Germanic languages at the time were still fairly close to Proto Germanic, don't you think?

    • @hansmahr8627
      @hansmahr8627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah it would still have been very close to Proto-Germanic. It's very likely that at that time there was still a large degree of mutual intelligibility between all the Germanic dialects. The earliest runic inscriptions in Proto-Norse were still very similar to Proto-Germanic even centuries later.

  • @DaliwolfBacon
    @DaliwolfBacon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I speak English, and some modern German, and I was surprised that I understood so much of the proto Germanic language! Thanks for making this video! It was very interesting :)

  • @jjclauslegos1999
    @jjclauslegos1999 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks to this channel I can now speak with my proto-germanic grandparents in their native tongue

  • @MSS47Ag
    @MSS47Ag 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    As a native Dutch speaker (Nederlands), proto-Germanic sounds quite “natural” to me😄

  • @herrbonk3635
    @herrbonk3635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    For a swede like me, it all sounds very qute with that voice, especially wurmiz :)
    We use a lot of "childish" words that ends like that (dagis, loppis, mjukis, sötis, kompis, snackis, ...)

  • @teachervitors.5694
    @teachervitors.5694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Proto-Celtic is definitely closer to Proto-Italic!! As someone has previously said... the Germanic does seem like a fusion of a sibling group of the Italo-Celtic to a Satem language group, maybe the Baltics or even a Pre-Indo-European language descending from the Anatolian and Middle Eastern farmers in the North!

  • @GrandeSalvatore96
    @GrandeSalvatore96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    As a native speaker of Olde Anglisc from the kingdom of Wessex, I find this very easy to understand.

  • @chinmaybhogilal6459
    @chinmaybhogilal6459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Can you do Proto-Indo-Aryan or Proto-Dravidian?

    • @No0r_.
      @No0r_. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      proto indo Iranian would be interesting

    • @jefferygoldmann2643
      @jefferygoldmann2643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Something is telling me you are from India

    • @chinmaybhogilal6459
      @chinmaybhogilal6459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@No0r_. Yea, they did that on their old channel, but it got deleted when the whole channel went under. They did Schleicher's fable like they do for all the proto-languages in the Indo-European family.

    • @chinmaybhogilal6459
      @chinmaybhogilal6459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@jefferygoldmann2643 Nice try, but the people there don’t know the difference between the two families and think that all languages originate from Sanskrit.

    • @adityanawani8134
      @adityanawani8134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chinmaybhogilal6459
      Are you not from india,bro?
      And Btw,you are so correct about mother of all languages part.😄

  • @Luger0312
    @Luger0312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm German. I speak german, english, some decent dutch and some french. It is easy to see that english, dutch and german didn't get a heavy latin influence. Basically all those words have a very similar word in modern german (by far the most), english or dutch (which are mostly the same proto-germanic words that are close to modern german words, as the languages aren't that far off each other). Didn't know that german was still this "close" to it.

    • @flutterwind7686
      @flutterwind7686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      English gained French (and Latin by extension) synonyms as well. We have Pretty (Germanic) and Beautiful (French). So English kind've has both Germanic and French vocabulary, and the less formal is Germanic and more formal/fancy is French usually.

  • @SarimFaruque
    @SarimFaruque 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The number 4 in Germanic (fedwor) is similar to Welsh (pedwar)

    • @galacticman4656
      @galacticman4656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Celto-germanic

    • @tonit4233
      @tonit4233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wasn't it celto-italic

    • @luciathesylveon8082
      @luciathesylveon8082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's similar but it's written with p

    • @hakanstorsater5090
      @hakanstorsater5090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@luciathesylveon8082 Germanic initial F generally corresponds to initial P in many other Indo-European language groups. Grimm's Law.

    • @weirdlanguageguy
      @weirdlanguageguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@hakanstorsater5090 actually, this case is slightly different because the originally root was kwetwor, not petwor. Kw became p regularly in welsh, but only became proto Germanic f in this one instance.

  • @simenbendikwilberg8711
    @simenbendikwilberg8711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    What a wonderful video. As a native speaker of Norwegian I recognized so many words. Also interesting to see different variants of the same words where only one is recognizable to me, and the other looking like another language. One thing i found interesting is the word for husband. In Norwegian the groom is called "brudgom", very similar to "brudigomo" which is proto-germanic for husband. However, the Norwegian word for bride is "brud". Why is "brud" (bride) not on your list of vocabulary? And do you know the proto-germanic word for groom (as in bride and groom)? Thanks again for the great video!

    • @hakanstorsater5090
      @hakanstorsater5090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *Gomo originlly meant man/ person, if I remember it correctly. So, the man of the bride...

    • @hakanstorsater5090
      @hakanstorsater5090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The intrusive -r- in English was due to mixup with the unrelated verb "grooming", I believe...

    • @domsjuk
      @domsjuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very interesting! I was wondering, if *gomo was actually preserved in some modern languages and couldn't think of any examples.

    • @killerbee2562
      @killerbee2562 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bride is brūdiz in proto Germanic

  • @valiwidrirson475
    @valiwidrirson475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It's just awesome how I as a German can understand most of it

    • @dan74695
      @dan74695 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'm Norwegian and I can also understand most of it.

  • @jer8036
    @jer8036 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Similarities with dutch:
    English - germanic - dutch
    Two - twai - twee
    I - ek - ik
    Here - her - hier
    What - hwat - wat
    Long - langaz - lang
    Man - mano - man
    Mother father - moder fader - moeder vader
    Dog - hundaz - hond
    Flower - blomo - bloem
    Grass - grasa - gras
    Eye - augo - oog
    Tooth - tanths - tand
    Tongue - tungo - tong
    ana is en in dutch
    Drink - drink - drink
    Eat - et - eet
    Sleep - slep - slaap
    Die - sterb - sterf
    Fall - fall - val

  • @itryen7632
    @itryen7632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is legitimately awesome. Thanks for reccomending me this, TH-cam.

  • @UnknownGuy8652
    @UnknownGuy8652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Super this is old language is awesome

  • @Paguo
    @Paguo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Etymology is a rad thing. Just found out "queen" has the root in "kwen" that just means woman

    • @gabriellima7900
      @gabriellima7900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And they are cognates with greek "Gyne".

  • @gabrieljusto6104
    @gabrieljusto6104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very accurate pronunciation. I love it.

  • @obinator9065
    @obinator9065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Many words at the start sounded close to the German equivalent. But then it all faded into the west Dutch /English.

    • @josephkolodziejski6882
      @josephkolodziejski6882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      More likely the other way round, German, despite its name, is more innovative.
      Remember that most Germanic peoples don't call themselves Germans

    • @obinator9065
      @obinator9065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@josephkolodziejski6882 Yeah Deutsche, western German goes to duits or düütsch like Dutch but we call them niederländisch like the English equivalent.

    • @12tanuha21
      @12tanuha21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      High german, originated from middle-south germany, have some sound shifts that have not happened in the northern Germany. That is why low german is nearer to old german than high german.

  • @Qdude10
    @Qdude10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow, I can even understand some of these as an English Speaker. Crazy.
    I've also noticed that most if not all verbs seem to end with "na"

  • @cuckoo61
    @cuckoo61 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Please do Proto Uto Aztec and Proto Eskimo Aleut :D

    • @sandu-vd7fi
      @sandu-vd7fi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope that Andy will make a video for each proto-language.

  • @kwayyernorge7436
    @kwayyernorge7436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Proto-germanic dads when they come back from a hunt: b-b-baka!

    • @AhJauBut
      @AhJauBut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You know that Baka word came from Indo European language

    • @doriannamjesnik3007
      @doriannamjesnik3007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @attilakreisz baka in some Slavic languages means grandmother.

    • @blamethelag4992
      @blamethelag4992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @attilakreisz That's the joke...
      Edit: On second thought, you might've been contributing to the joke. I sound like an asshole with this comment. Sorry.

    • @fuehrer_tb5597
      @fuehrer_tb5597 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tsundere dad 😁

    • @luciathesylveon8082
      @luciathesylveon8082 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Japanese has another language tree it's not germanic.

  • @saarbrooklynrider2277
    @saarbrooklynrider2277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Interesting how it is a mix between English, Swedish and German.

  • @ijansk
    @ijansk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    English: lake.
    Proto-Germanic: lakō
    Spanish: lago

    • @12tanuha21
      @12tanuha21 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe the Goths brought that word to spain

  • @danborggren6608
    @danborggren6608 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    We still say "brudgum" for groom (husband) in Swedish. Smal in Swedish means thin, but it is a cognate of small. It is a little bit sad that different Germanic languages are not mutually intelligible anymore. In Scandinavia we have retained intelligibility between our different languages, but the moment we cross the Danish/German border.... nope.

  • @snaiwa
    @snaiwa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, I've been waiting for this video since the start of your channel!

  • @axisboss1654
    @axisboss1654 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s so cool that most words in English and German can be traced back to the same root.

  • @klaushuber4446
    @klaushuber4446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man sieht die Verbindung zu modernem Deutsch. Was auch auffällt: Wenn Deutsch und Englisch zwei unterschiedliche germanische Worte benutzen, erscheinen diese hier in ihrer angenommen Urform nebeneinander. Anders ausgedrückt: Wenn hier für einen Begriff mehr als ein protogermanisches Wort angegeben wird, ist häufig eines dieser Wörter der Vorgänger des englischen, das andere des deutschen Wortes.

  • @iicarlyx3643
    @iicarlyx3643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you! Was just searching for this!

  • @richlisola1
    @richlisola1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I hear bits of English, German, and believe it or not Latin! In Proto-Germanic. The word for horse is Ekwas or something sounds like Equis. The Latin word for horse 🐴

    • @theprinceofdarkness4679
      @theprinceofdarkness4679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Бегемот-г6м actually no
      ehwaz was only one of at least 6 words used for horse in protogermanic
      English horse and German Ross come a different protogermanic word
      ekwos was the approximate pronunciation of the proto-indo-european word that gave Latin equus and protogermanic ehwaz due to the first consonant shift
      German Ross and English horse go back to protogermanic hrussan
      The an in hrussan is actually spelled a with a mark underneath it to indicate nasalization of the a
      In the video the person pronouncing the words seemed a little off because the nasalization of certain vowels were not distinguishable as well as several other characteristic pronunciations of other phonemes
      In other words a native speaker of protogermanic would have considered the person a foreign speaker
      Now that's according to my understanding of how protogermanic should be pronounced
      Unfortunately there is a probability of differences in pronunciation and protogermanic was not really a language frozen in time
      It is of course the best approximation of what we can reconstruct

    • @c.norbertneumann4986
      @c.norbertneumann4986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The more you go back in time, and the older Indo-European languages are, the more similar they are.

  • @tirididjdjwieidiw1138
    @tirididjdjwieidiw1138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the reason this sounds very similar to a lot of modern germanic languages is due to the fact that it has been reconstructed from old norse, gothic, old english, old high german and several other old germanic languages.

  • @arth423
    @arth423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Can you do Proto-Finno-Ugric?

  • @alphaundpinsel2431
    @alphaundpinsel2431 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    From words like “ahtau” Latin, “Octo”, “ek” Latin, “ego”, “exuos” Latin, “equus” you can see the connection

  • @gabrielpr03
    @gabrielpr03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    brūdigumô (husband) -> Bräutigam

    • @BrandydocMeriabuck
      @BrandydocMeriabuck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      There is also the term bridegroom in English

    • @stonefaceBRC
      @stonefaceBRC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I know several people with Brautigam as a surname!

    • @rexx23ify79
      @rexx23ify79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's "Brudgumme" in Swedish still

    • @choonbox
      @choonbox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bruidegom in Dutch-Flemish.

    • @simenbendikwilberg8711
      @simenbendikwilberg8711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brudgom in Norwegian

  • @ethanpearson853
    @ethanpearson853 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Does ANYONE know where to find the Middle English poem of The Wren? I have physical evidence of it's onetime TH-cam existence from when I wrote it and yet I can't find it anymore.

  • @LadetJahonen
    @LadetJahonen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is superb! Thank you so much!

  • @anglishbookcraft1516
    @anglishbookcraft1516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For these everyday words I think English is the nearest to proto-Germanic. The sounds and the words of choice are the same. The others have other Germanic words instead. Yes the Latin is heavy in English (mostly as a choice) but English’s normal Wordstock is so old.

  • @Smitology
    @Smitology 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A good way of predicting cognates is that the long O sound in English usually comes from Proto Germanic "ai" and will be "ei" in German. Words pronounced with the long E sound and spelt "ea" in English usually comes from Proto Germanic "au" and will usually be "o" or "o" (umlaut) in German.
    Combine that with the High German consonant shift (th --> d --> t --> ss or z) and you can usually guess pretty well

  • @jeffondrement160
    @jeffondrement160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Language at the end of the video is not Proto-Germanic but Pre-Proto-Germanic.
    Proto-Germanic was closer to Gothic. Pre-Proto-Germanic was PIE with Germanic sounds.

  • @raffer807
    @raffer807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey, this flag is amazing!

  • @joshuafuller1464
    @joshuafuller1464 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Knowing Dutch & English, you really feel the similarities. I have to say I think there are more similarities with dutch than english, makes you realize why words are the way they are in other germanic languages.

  • @jackpw2005
    @jackpw2005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The power of *, spoken by my ancestors in Germania.

  • @muiscnight
    @muiscnight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    German really is the root of the English language. I know thats painfully obvious but if there were any doubters they are no more.

  • @snoogkies
    @snoogkies 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Between speaking English and learning German, this was pretty easy to understand. 🤭

  • @stjou4268
    @stjou4268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What a beautiful tongue. Wish we could somehow revive it.

  • @watchmakerful
    @watchmakerful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Flaiski" (meat) = "flesh" in modern English?

  • @almosthilarious9639
    @almosthilarious9639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oo Would be awesome to hear Proto-Kartvelian!

  • @applelayla4532
    @applelayla4532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    THIS is what the actors should have spoken in Netflix "Barbarians"! NOT German! Thank you so so SO much for this video and the work you do!

  • @PiroKUSS
    @PiroKUSS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sounds similar to Gothic. Makes sense.

  • @karlscheuring3179
    @karlscheuring3179 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    but for real thank you for posting been waiting on this for a big minute

  • @yassies9640
    @yassies9640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm a bit stunned with how many words are recognizable with their modern dutch equivalent. I thought it would sound far more removed

  • @prestonpizzaxd2344
    @prestonpizzaxd2344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As a English person I actually understand this a bit. By the way I speak some Dutch and German

    • @Pac-cm3xx
      @Pac-cm3xx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Only a bit? Nearly every word is a cognate. Words that aren't a cognate are the exception.

  • @louisrobertbrown
    @louisrobertbrown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Felt especially Welsh at numbers 4 and 5 (fedwor vs pedwar and fimf vs pump, which is pronounced pimp)

  • @MagnusItland
    @MagnusItland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I was taken aback by how much of the first pages that sounded like the west Norwegian dialect I grew up with.

  • @Zovlanov
    @Zovlanov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    nouns end with "z"
    verbs end with "na"

    • @unraed
      @unraed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      masculine nouns to be precise)

  • @Supernimo735
    @Supernimo735 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Proud to have German ancestry 👏🇩🇪

  • @samyrandome425
    @samyrandome425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would love it if y'all could do proto-Afroasiatic

  • @xetra1155
    @xetra1155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks for that content! Where do you have your sources from?

  • @Truthseeker447
    @Truthseeker447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I once searched that Dutch language is the closest to proto Germanic, Dutch speakers how do you find it familiar with your language today ?

  • @Muhammedthemaverick
    @Muhammedthemaverick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am a South African and I can speak Afrikaans and English
    Which are Germanic languages

  • @AJos17
    @AJos17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello, I like your videos, can you do a video on "Picard" I'm from picardy region and i'd like to compare it with normand and french.

  • @germandestroyzeppelin4432
    @germandestroyzeppelin4432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beautiful language

  • @BreadWinner330
    @BreadWinner330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Proto-Germanic sounds like English without the Great vowel shift and German without the Second consonant shift.

  • @vetar3372
    @vetar3372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How to make Proto-Germanic: Take words from Germanic languages and add iz and az

  • @jeffondrement160
    @jeffondrement160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sounded like Lithuanian

  • @General_Popo
    @General_Popo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Me: "I speak a modern germanic language and a bit of Old Norse. I will probably understand a bit of a sentence"
    5:20: "Hahaha, no."

  • @MrAllmightyCornholioz
    @MrAllmightyCornholioz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    0:31 I TELL YOU *HWAT

  • @igiveup12
    @igiveup12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just watched a video from this channel on the proto urgic language, went to the comments, and read a few how they could understand some words. I get what they're talking about now!

  • @rodolfovittoriomarin182
    @rodolfovittoriomarin182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hey, if you need a native speaker for Ligurian language I'm happy to help you

  • @johanneskiefer6912
    @johanneskiefer6912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am I the only one having the impression that most of the time they give two different translations, it is bc they trailed back both the current English and German words?
    It is like this with skin (*skinþa + *hūdiz->Haut) and bone (*bainą + *knukô-> Knochen) & many more examples...
    That doesn't mean there's only West Germanic vocab traced back, I also saw the word for "big" resembeling Swedish "stor", but I guess it would make sense to have the most examples based on vocabulary out of the two most prominent Germanic languages today, which are clearly English and German on 2nd place, with Dutch as a middleground between them to and at least in linguistics sometimes also referred as a low German dialect with its own writing style...

    • @hakanstorsater5090
      @hakanstorsater5090 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, I guess one would use the oldest preserved texts of all the sub-groupings, and then see which words would be the most frequently found, and then assume they would likely be the closest to the proto-form... Something like that...

  • @whichoneispink5967
    @whichoneispink5967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Doctor: So where does it hurt?
    Germanic People: B-Baka! OwO

  • @mpforeverunlimited
    @mpforeverunlimited 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why was this not used in the show Barbarians?

  • @dalubwikaan161
    @dalubwikaan161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When it comes to the basic vocabulary, it is similar to English.