also, what Khaenri'ah did to Vedrfoldnir was wild. they blinded him because he foretold a prophecy. wth! no wonder he didn't save the nation when he became a Sinner
@@starlight14673 It's the implied interpretation of events from the new glider. Although we've heard before that Khaenriah's royalty was warned that something bad was coming if they continued their forbidden acts but they ignored it, (iirc this was first said in the Mocking Mask in Pale Flame artifact set which describes Pierro's past)
@@KatsuImagitianIndeed. The King and highest of royalty were warned many a time, yet they never pay heed to any of the warnings they received, and, as divine punishment, Khaneri'ah was rent asunder and smeared for eternity.
I was blown away when I read the lore on Reddit. Like holy crap. It makes me wonder if the Vinster King was attempting to use Lumine as a Loom of Fate, because the they thought she was a descender.
The reason they'd give such a lore bomb here is probably because by 5.3 there's going to be a big lore reveal regarding Khaenriah. To give such implied details for once they must be ready to start revealing the big stuff. No surprise with Sneznaya coming and Natlan was the nation hinted that the Pyro Archon would reveal a secret to the Traveler.
The Traveller always seemed dodgy about their title of royalty and were the only suvivors of their alien race. And Lumine's character card description says that she is the more pessimistic of the siblings and laments the loss of her home. Maybe that's why the Abyss Sibling was resentful toward Dain, because couldn't believe that he was willing to slay his own blood.
Our twin Is a hypocrite though saying every thing is dains fault yet teams up with his brother who did nothing to help stop what happened unlike dain who did fight and Try and stop what happened to the people of khaenri'ah
@@AyatosBobas Did they team up with Vedrfolnir? There doesn't seem to be any information about this in the game, Vedrfolnir kinda was reason why Abyss Order appear because he helped Caribert and his father, but after that he just disappeared and we don't know if Sibling met him after.
Oh forgot mention the gender does indeed change depending on which twin you pick. Its wild! So say you have Lumine then it'll say Prince. But if you have Aether it says Princess and so on.😮👀
ahahah they finally fixed it! when I first started playing genshin they kept misgendering the traveler for the whole time, I miss that actually 😆 it was confusing but funny
@@Painroses They still referred to the traveler by the wrong gender ocassionally. I use Lumine, and had no problem. But when I was watching Brandonline play through act 3 of 5.1 (after I'd finished my act 4), I noticed Paimon called Aether a "her" and referred to him as "she" a time or two there. Though Bran was talking to chat when that happened, so I don't think he noticed (might have been in act 4, can't remember. I just know it was voiced by Paimon and in 5.1 somewhere and I did a double take since I know Bran uses Aether, lol). Also the BP cinematic was recently removed, but up until its removal the pronouns never changed there, either. Whatever that means. I'm one of the players who never believed that referred to the traveler twins. I have my reasons for that, but I got into those in another comment response here somewhere. And typing is painful due to spine surgery I had at the end of Oct. So I won't get into my reasons for thinking that, here. But I thought I should mention that those pronouns never changed, since we were talking about pronoun uses.
@windeen lmao~ funny to hear they still have issues with that after all these time! I choose lumine too and I did the mondstadt quests like 3 years ago, it was hilarious because they were rotating between she, he, her and him the entire time it was like paimon, jean, kaeya, amber and venti were all drunk or something 😆
It seems it was less that the king wanted lumine to contain abyss energy like the traveler but instead wanted her to become a vessel for the will of the abyss,
That’s grounds for the MC to really HATE Khaenrhi’ah and its Despicable behavior, wasn’t said in the description of either The Wings of Descension or The Sword of Descension that they had a history of being Subjugated and such? Yet again their people are being used by others for Evil!
Looks at the BP story narrated by Venti: WHAT DO YOU KNOW EHE ARCHON Man Dains guilt must be tremendous but this also kinda answers why the Abyss twin blames Dain in We Will be Reunited
Lol I was playing Genshin when you dropped this video I had to hop off the game to check out this lore! Major shouts out to you for this awesome video!!!
@@miskis6322 I'm not the thread starter you were talking to. But: Ah, thank you! I was confused. I had thought that was the case, but couldn't remember if it was lantern rite or this patch. So I checked my main American server account and my baby Asian server account, lol.
Dainsleif has confirmed previously that he has a "it" that helps his keep himself in one piece to some degree Also it would've been really funny if the Aranara called the traveller the "Blonde Nara" instead of the holden Nara
There were hilichurls(sp?) around before Khaenri'ah's fall. So its hard to say which ones came from there. We can assume the 3 tribes in Mondstadt are from Khaenri'ah. But elsewhere its hard to say which ones were around before it fell. Also, I mentioned the reason for this in another comment to you. But again: sorry for the likely typos im missing.
All hilichurls are from Khaenri’ah. It’s just that the ones from before the cataclysm are people who left by their own will, while the hilichurls who came after the cataclysm were ones who left due to the danger of staying. It is said that the hilichurl population had a massive increase after Khaenri’ah’s destruction.
@@Yuxi_knows_nothinonly the last part of what you said is true. Nothing states that other people couldn’t receive the curse of the wilderness, only that it was given on those who weren’t pure-blooded Khaenri’anhs
@@Yuxi_knows_nothinI recommend going to Sal Vindagnyr (Dragonspine), which was before Khaenri'ah, and reading their lore, namely the lore of one Frostarm Lawachurl named Ukko, which can be found there. Hilichurls appeared BEFORE the existence of Khaenri'ah, and the curse of wilderness is not related to them, it was from the very beginning created for those who renounced the gods, like Ukko who cursed the gods before his transformation, or non pure blood Khaenri'ah who renounced their gods for life in Khaenri'ah.
That's what I think it even says here that they used to be scions of a glorious kingdom. Same description. I don't think the BP was meant to confuse people so much it was supposed to be clear that it's the travelers but now you had to figure out what happened and what is the Genesis pearl and who deceived her. It's not even like they are hiding the fact that they fully consider Lumine the Abyss twin. I personally believe the moon is the Genesis pearl.
Sure here they are in the oder that they played Obscure Obsession Where Dreams Putrify Unfulfilled Aspirations Dance with Fireflies A Shard from Past Glories Whispers of Immensity (one of my favorites) Destined Parting Hope that helps 😁
The BT cinematic gender doesn't change with your MC choice with means the characters on that cinematic can not be the traveler / sibling. Btw, they removed the cinematic recently. I wander if its just because no one wants to watch it for the thousand time or if there is more to it.
That explanation really doesn't hold up. All official animation about the travelers has Lumine as the Abyss twin. Including the video I used alot for this one, road not taken. Same goes for the Teyvat storyline preview and anniversary stuff. So thats hardly a reason not to believe the BP one. I'm also inclined to think they took it out because people fussed. Kind of a shame to be honest. It was nostalgic and you could easily skip it after a few seconds
@@theunlikelygenshingamer I also don't think the BP talks about them. Sorry. Hoyo is so careful to change the pronouns in the game, and not there. I think they wouldn't be so careful with the pronouns in the BP because we would expect it to be the same as the official stuff. But they didn't change the pronouns in it, when they could have (Hoyo said both traveler's are canon years ago and that they used just Aether (one very short promo cinematic does use Lumine as traveler with Paimon) because their audience in China was getting confused. But by the time HSR came, they had learned to not worry about confusing players, it seems - they had used just Aether for so long that it would confuse players now if they suddenly stopped). So until I see solid proof that the twins are the characters in the BP I'm going to believe Hoyo that they are both canon travelers. I think the BP is hiding other info and that the lack of a change in pronouns is a clue to it (though not going there, typing too much is painful- explained below). That said, I try to respect the opinions of others, and hope that they respect mine. So while it seems to you to be a shallow reason to not consider the BP- I think it's something else because they could have easily changed the pronouns in the BP since it's in game and we would have all assumed it was the traveler it was talking about. But until they do something else with it to prove that it would be the traveler's, then I'm going to continue thinking it is something else. Something bigger. Also, sorry for any bad typos. I had spine surgery on the 25th of October and am still recovering - my hand doesn't always obey me at the moment (the spine surgery was for fixing an issue that caused problems using my arm), and also my eyes were messed up by the general anesthesia (as well as the vice they had my head in for the surgery, that stabalized my spine). So my sight is also not great at the moment - between that and my hand, I might have missed some typos! So: Thank you for reading that wall of text to us! Even when I get the wings in 5.3 I'm not sure my sight ir my hand will be better. Waiting to go to the eye doctor till my spine surgeon clears me. As it is in having a bit of a time with reading unvoiced text that flashes up at the bottom of the screen when world quest stuff starts showing up from Paimon while I'm moving along. But I'm still trying, lol. Anyway, again: Thanks for reading this out for us .
@@theunlikelygenshingamer "All official animation" outside the game. All in game references to the traveler / sibling changes with your choice. I believe the Princess in the cinematic is the head/ruler of the Abyss with is not the sibling. In the cinematic Venti refers to her as the "Queen" of Darkness not the "Princess" of Darkness. And one of the Dains quests confirmed that there is a entity above the sibling in the Abyss. With is most likely the "Queen".
@@theunlikelygenshingamer literally what are you on abt??there is no canon traveler even hoyo has said it themselves, aether is just the poster boy. I can't believe ppl still argue abt this in 2024 💀💀
1:34 "in her brief life" so what does this mean? the princess can't be that young because it's mentioned later about them having "too-long lives" or something or maybe there's rebirth happening? 🤔 is that why the abyss sibling is recorded in the irminsul?
Well back when he knew her at that age she was no where near 500 yet. Both of them eventually lived just super long lives but at that point they could have been normal aged
In the Chinese text for the wind glider, it's mentioned that the brief life is related for how long she stayed in Khaenri'ah, the twins are probably way older than 500 yo.
I realize the wings say the Sibling is young but we know they are not. A better question would be why did the Sibling lower themselves to help out such a minor nation. It would be like going from being president of the USA to afterwards becoming the mayor of a small town. I guess she just took pity on them with their insane King. The wings do NOT say the Sibling was corrupted by the Abyss. In fact we can deduce that they never did get that Abyssal power because if they did then they'd be able to beat Dainsleif in a sword fight, right? So where did that Abyssal energy end up? Well we know a group of "young" people who helped Dain defy King Irmin's decree (to lock up Vedrfolnir), four or five leading lights of the younger generation of Khaenri'ah like Dain. They ended up flooded with Abyssal energy enough to end a world. Wonder where they got that from, eh? Same reason Sibling did NOT get all the energy? And now we know what event Dain did that Sibling blames him for the entire mess. He killed king Irmin. Or something like that. He and his "Sinner" buddies were already up for treason the moment they decided to free Vedrfolnir of course (reversing the king's orders). Yeah I can see how regicide might make a difference to the unfolding events. And yet in Dain's mind this was a righteous act because Irmin was insane (which is hinted at in the Arlecchino stuff - the weapon I think). Sounds like killing Decarabian, or Och Kan, or any of the other insane dictators. -------------------------------- So the pureblood obsessed Khaenri'ahns accepted a stranger as the heir who had no ties to Khaenri'ah or it's pure blood. Why? Because they were a Descender of course, the very type of femi-god like being they had been searching for thousands of years. But perhaps it's more. Does the Sibling in fact in some respects have similar blood to the royal bloodline due to the primordial Khaenri'ahn's blood heritage on their mother's side? And yes, Dain is a nobody after all. He's not older than about 500-550 years old. He has no special secrets it seems. Anfortas still seems to jump the gun on his regency. Now he had a king AND an heir missing, although it seems the Sibling was only missing for a little while. Shouldn't Anfortas have known the heir was around and due to return? I guess he didn't and wanted some sort of chain of command? I don't see why he needed to jump to creating a regency. So presumably the energy absorption thing has something to do with Sibling becoming a not-Descender? But this doesn't seem to give a reason for them escaping from the Unknown God so quickly, or the Sibling lying by omission to the Traveler as to their purpose in attacking the Unknown God (they certainly were NOT trying to just leave Teyvat). You could argue maybe the Unknown God just puts Sibling back in Teyvat because they "belong" there so are supposedly chained by their "fate" and therefore not a threat -- all evidence against that not withstanding? They did just come and attack you dude. Yeah I don't think that theory is right. Dain hates the Sinners his former buddies in the map cap little scheme to nip down to the lowest levels of Khaneri'ah and rescue his bro. He does not hate the Sibling though. We're told that in Bedtime Story. So Dain does NOT think that the Sibling abandoned Khaenri'ah as he says of his former comrades. Dain does NOT blame Sibling but Sibling blames Dain. Maybe the issue is that the while Dain and pals were journeying down wards to save Vedrfolnir, which they managed I guess, they happened to bump into the Prince and Irmin coming from having a ton of Abyssal energy absorbed - which had worked and everything was fine. Then something happens and it's Dain's fault. Perhaps it's his fault because he's the reason the "Sinners" were down there to begin with? Or because he kills Irmin? Or because for some reason the "Sinners" end up absorbing massive Abyssal energy from the Sibling? Energy that was needed for protecting Khaenri'ah perhaps? Perhaps defending Khaenri'ah from an attack that Vedrfolnir had predicted? The "Sinners" got the energy but for whatever reason were unable to control it or use it or were unwilling (Dain's view, which seems unlikely). Thus Sibling blames Dain correctly and Dain does not blame Sibling. ---------------------------- No, this answers more questions than it asks. Or rather the questions that are raised were always around. It's a confirmation of what was suspected in large part.
@theunlikelygenshingamer yh for suuure. controversial and we get to so your opinion on the matter. it lets us engage with you as a player and enjoyer of lore rather than just you as a lore narrator
Celestia did nothing wrong your honor!! They just wanted to maintain the world of their sherrished humans your honor! Khaenrih'a royalty rock the foundation of the world and let in the Abyss and cause all the chaos of the Abyss your honor
We are some of those few people who think that Celestia did what it needed to. You can tell that's why Dain isn't eager to revive the homeland either. Yes innocents were lost who should not have been but. That nation was messing with some bad bad mojo
Been a Celestia defender my whole life, it feels good to be vindicated😌 No matter how much we prove that Celestia IS NOT BAD, people would still rather claim they are
@@carlospedro7050Like, Celestia is not good either. To usurp an alien planet and genocide their inhabitants, stealing their power and teraforming their world is NOT a good thing.
@@iosis9324 they conquered Celestia fair and square aaaaaages ago, but they never genocided ANYONE, besides obviously when they had to drop the nails to stop the abyss. But that's moreso the populations fault. Celestial is neutral but they love humanity and all of the human realm
if you have a xbox series x or s login on it and get it from the mail. if you have gamepass ultimate you can login through pc or wait till 5.3 when they'll be available for everyone
You know... What if what I'm about to say is true: - The Abyss twin died during the cataclysm, that's why Nahida could only access their information up to a certain point - Dain is carrying and using the twins remains to stop the curse from spreading, since those curses are abyssal in nature and elemental energy and phlogiston cancels out the abyss and since they are starts, they are the most purest source and medium for that type of energy - The encounters we've had up to this point with the twin are just projections and memories of themselves used by the abyss to mimic them, like the most sophisticated version of the mimiflora and the whooperflower albedo. - Dain feels like he failed her and wants to bring her back to life but he also wants to rescue his brother and change the world Edit: - Also, what if the destroyed celestial body beyond the firmament of natlan is the twins original world
Yeah that'll probably explain why irminsul doesn't consider the twin as descender, because they're just a copy made by the abyss, the specialty of the abyss
First of all, what is the name of the track that plays at 0:10? Second, I also had my suspicions that there was something strange with the travelers, since the moment Canotila called them "Beast capable of devouring the world" I always suspected that it had something to do with the Abyss, and now that these wings have come out, what has been revealed to us in the new mission of 5.2 has made me think that the Twins are actually some kind of Lovecraft-type entity. Also, something that I find curious is that both the traveler and Paimon are immune to the effects of the Abyss without having serious side effects, however, the latter was affected by the residue of gods, as happens in the factory of Delusions and the power of Raiden when leaving Tenshukaku, the same with the powers of the dragons, because the traveler after resonating with Hydro was just as sensitive as Neuvillette and was able to speak with the Oceanid of the Fontana Lucine, apart from the fact that he has Phemuma alignment, also, without counting the Melusines, the Traveler was able to listen and enter the mind of Elynas who is another being of the Abyss. Therefore I think that the Twin who is a descendant came from the sea of stars (The same Place of the Narval and maybe Goysothot) and the one who belongs to Teyvat is a clone or its reverse copy, since since 4.8 the emphasis was being placed on the subject of mirrors and reflections with everything in Simulanka.
Thanks for sharing this information, as Hoyo didn't seem to be going to do it 😒 Seriously, what kind of “genius“ came up with the idea to cram such a story into a limited random item?!!
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also, what Khaenri'ah did to Vedrfoldnir was wild. they blinded him because he foretold a prophecy. wth! no wonder he didn't save the nation when he became a Sinner
Hm? Did they actually do that? From what i knew vedrfolnir betrayed khaneriah why? Bcz of abyss it was stated might be new info tho
@@starlight14673 It's the implied interpretation of events from the new glider. Although we've heard before that Khaenriah's royalty was warned that something bad was coming if they continued their forbidden acts but they ignored it, (iirc this was first said in the Mocking Mask in Pale Flame artifact set which describes Pierro's past)
It was the King Irmin who punished him for a prophecy perhaps gone wrong
@@KatsuImagitianIndeed. The King and highest of royalty were warned many a time, yet they never pay heed to any of the warnings they received, and, as divine punishment, Khaneri'ah was rent asunder and smeared for eternity.
So he let millions die because a few refused to hear him? Great...
I was blown away when I read the lore on Reddit. Like holy crap.
It makes me wonder if the Vinster King was attempting to use Lumine as a Loom of Fate, because the they thought she was a descender.
The reason they'd give such a lore bomb here is probably because by 5.3 there's going to be a big lore reveal regarding Khaenriah. To give such implied details for once they must be ready to start revealing the big stuff. No surprise with Sneznaya coming and Natlan was the nation hinted that the Pyro Archon would reveal a secret to the Traveler.
I was expecting the v5.2 as the final Archon Quest of Natlan and got disappointed... looks like I have to wait till 1 Jan now😂
isnt it spelt snezhnaya
It’s your problem actually. In livestream 5.0 they anonced story in 5.0, 5.1 and 5.3
The Traveller always seemed dodgy about their title of royalty and were the only suvivors of their alien race. And Lumine's character card description says that she is the more pessimistic of the siblings and laments the loss of her home.
Maybe that's why the Abyss Sibling was resentful toward Dain, because couldn't believe that he was willing to slay his own blood.
Our twin Is a hypocrite though saying every thing is dains fault yet teams up with his brother who did nothing to help stop what happened unlike dain who did fight and Try and stop what happened to the people of khaenri'ah
@@AyatosBobas at this point no one is trust worthy. We wouldn't know if she's right or wrong
@@AyatosBobas Did they team up with Vedrfolnir? There doesn't seem to be any information about this in the game, Vedrfolnir kinda was reason why Abyss Order appear because he helped Caribert and his father, but after that he just disappeared and we don't know if Sibling met him after.
Oh forgot mention the gender does indeed change depending on which twin you pick. Its wild! So say you have Lumine then it'll say Prince. But if you have Aether it says Princess and so on.😮👀
On the wings?
@@vitor900000 yes
ahahah they finally fixed it! when I first started playing genshin they kept misgendering the traveler for the whole time, I miss that actually 😆 it was confusing but funny
@@Painroses
They still referred to the traveler by the wrong gender ocassionally.
I use Lumine, and had no problem.
But when I was watching Brandonline play through act 3 of 5.1 (after I'd finished my act 4), I noticed Paimon called Aether a "her" and referred to him as "she" a time or two there. Though Bran was talking to chat when that happened, so I don't think he noticed (might have been in act 4, can't remember. I just know it was voiced by Paimon and in 5.1 somewhere and I did a double take since I know Bran uses Aether, lol).
Also the BP cinematic was recently removed, but up until its removal the pronouns never changed there, either.
Whatever that means. I'm one of the players who never believed that referred to the traveler twins.
I have my reasons for that, but I got into those in another comment response here somewhere. And typing is painful due to spine surgery I had at the end of Oct.
So I won't get into my reasons for thinking that, here.
But I thought I should mention that those pronouns never changed, since we were talking about pronoun uses.
@windeen lmao~ funny to hear they still have issues with that after all these time!
I choose lumine too and I did the mondstadt quests like 3 years ago, it was hilarious because they were rotating between she, he, her and him the entire time it was like paimon, jean, kaeya, amber and venti were all drunk or something 😆
The way I have work in 15 minutes yet I'm watching this
It seems it was less that the king wanted lumine to contain abyss energy like the traveler but instead wanted her to become a vessel for the will of the abyss,
That’s grounds for the MC to really HATE Khaenrhi’ah and its Despicable behavior, wasn’t said in the description of either The Wings of Descension or The Sword of Descension that they had a history of being Subjugated and such? Yet again their people are being used by others for Evil!
Looks at the BP story narrated by Venti: WHAT DO YOU KNOW EHE ARCHON
Man Dains guilt must be tremendous but this also kinda answers why the Abyss twin blames Dain in We Will be Reunited
Same reaction I have after reading this lore yesterday.
This still doesnt make sense
Lol I was playing Genshin when you dropped this video I had to hop off the game to check out this lore! Major shouts out to you for this awesome video!!!
Thanks! I was so surprised I knew I had to dig deeper and make a video. Thanks for the watch😁
Say what! Sounds like the princess was the original loom of fate.
ikr, its sounds like that was the original plan but then it basically became like opening pandora's box and they perished instead.
All these exclusive stuff has the best lore god damn, take WINGS OF DECENSION as an example.
the xbox wings will be coming for everyone next patch
@@miskis6322
I'm not the thread starter you were talking to.
But:
Ah, thank you! I was confused. I had thought that was the case, but couldn't remember if it was lantern rite or this patch.
So I checked my main American server account and my baby Asian server account, lol.
Hmm wing of descension, and the traveller is a descender, they have planned it from a long time
Dainsleif has confirmed previously that he has a "it" that helps his keep himself in one piece to some degree
Also it would've been really funny if the Aranara called the traveller the "Blonde Nara" instead of the holden Nara
I think it has to do something with leylines
@killsthelight5511 why?
He talk about ring
There were hilichurls(sp?) around before Khaenri'ah's fall. So its hard to say which ones came from there.
We can assume the 3 tribes in Mondstadt are from Khaenri'ah.
But elsewhere its hard to say which ones were around before it fell.
Also, I mentioned the reason for this in another comment to you.
But again: sorry for the likely typos im missing.
All hilichurls are from Khaenri’ah. It’s just that the ones from before the cataclysm are people who left by their own will, while the hilichurls who came after the cataclysm were ones who left due to the danger of staying. It is said that the hilichurl population had a massive increase after Khaenri’ah’s destruction.
@@Yuxi_knows_nothinonly the last part of what you said is true. Nothing states that other people couldn’t receive the curse of the wilderness, only that it was given on those who weren’t pure-blooded Khaenri’anhs
@@Yuxi_knows_nothinI recommend going to Sal Vindagnyr (Dragonspine), which was before Khaenri'ah, and reading their lore, namely the lore of one Frostarm Lawachurl named Ukko, which can be found there. Hilichurls appeared BEFORE the existence of Khaenri'ah, and the curse of wilderness is not related to them, it was from the very beginning created for those who renounced the gods, like Ukko who cursed the gods before his transformation, or non pure blood Khaenri'ah who renounced their gods for life in Khaenri'ah.
Couldnt it be that the original bp thing, was the last planet they were part off
That's what I think it even says here that they used to be scions of a glorious kingdom. Same description. I don't think the BP was meant to confuse people so much it was supposed to be clear that it's the travelers but now you had to figure out what happened and what is the Genesis pearl and who deceived her. It's not even like they are hiding the fact that they fully consider Lumine the Abyss twin.
I personally believe the moon is the Genesis pearl.
When Khaenri'ah chapter drops, y'all will see that the Traveller has huge Abyss resistance in the stats while the other characters might not
finally you covered this ❤
Hymn of the Gnostic Pearl go brrrr!!!🐍
Hi does anyone know the name of the music tracks played throughout this video.
I'm sorry I don't know much
Sure here they are in the oder that they played
Obscure Obsession
Where Dreams Putrify
Unfulfilled Aspirations
Dance with Fireflies
A Shard from Past Glories
Whispers of Immensity (one of my favorites)
Destined Parting
Hope that helps 😁
@theunlikelygenshingamer
Omg thank you so much!!!
The BT cinematic gender doesn't change with your MC choice with means the characters on that cinematic can not be the traveler / sibling.
Btw, they removed the cinematic recently. I wander if its just because no one wants to watch it for the thousand time or if there is more to it.
Or the story was Irminsul-proofed to the point it doesn't match the real gender.
That explanation really doesn't hold up. All official animation about the travelers has Lumine as the Abyss twin. Including the video I used alot for this one, road not taken. Same goes for the Teyvat storyline preview and anniversary stuff.
So thats hardly a reason not to believe the BP one. I'm also inclined to think they took it out because people fussed. Kind of a shame to be honest. It was nostalgic and you could easily skip it after a few seconds
@@theunlikelygenshingamer
I also don't think the BP talks about them. Sorry.
Hoyo is so careful to change the pronouns in the game, and not there.
I think they wouldn't be so careful with the pronouns in the BP because we would expect it to be the same as the official stuff.
But they didn't change the pronouns in it, when they could have (Hoyo said both traveler's are canon years ago and that they used just Aether (one very short promo cinematic does use Lumine as traveler with Paimon) because their audience in China was getting confused. But by the time HSR came, they had learned to not worry about confusing players, it seems - they had used just Aether for so long that it would confuse players now if they suddenly stopped).
So until I see solid proof that the twins are the characters in the BP I'm going to believe Hoyo that they are both canon travelers.
I think the BP is hiding other info and that the lack of a change in pronouns is a clue to it (though not going there, typing too much is painful- explained below).
That said, I try to respect the opinions of others, and hope that they respect mine.
So while it seems to you to be a shallow reason to not consider the BP- I think it's something else because they could have easily changed the pronouns in the BP since it's in game and we would have all assumed it was the traveler it was talking about. But until they do something else with it to prove that it would be the traveler's, then I'm going to continue thinking it is something else. Something bigger.
Also, sorry for any bad typos.
I had spine surgery on the 25th of October and am still recovering - my hand doesn't always obey me at the moment (the spine surgery was for fixing an issue that caused problems using my arm), and also my eyes were messed up by the general anesthesia (as well as the vice they had my head in for the surgery, that stabalized my spine).
So my sight is also not great at the moment - between that and my hand, I might have missed some typos!
So:
Thank you for reading that wall of text to us!
Even when I get the wings in 5.3 I'm not sure my sight ir my hand will be better.
Waiting to go to the eye doctor till my spine surgeon clears me.
As it is in having a bit of a time with reading unvoiced text that flashes up at the bottom of the screen when world quest stuff starts showing up from Paimon while I'm moving along. But I'm still trying, lol.
Anyway, again:
Thanks for reading this out for us .
@@theunlikelygenshingamer "All official animation" outside the game.
All in game references to the traveler / sibling changes with your choice.
I believe the Princess in the cinematic is the head/ruler of the Abyss with is not the sibling.
In the cinematic Venti refers to her as the "Queen" of Darkness not the "Princess" of Darkness.
And one of the Dains quests confirmed that there is a entity above the sibling in the Abyss. With is most likely the "Queen".
@@theunlikelygenshingamer literally what are you on abt??there is no canon traveler even hoyo has said it themselves, aether is just the poster boy. I can't believe ppl still argue abt this in 2024 💀💀
Now do McDonalds glider wings lore 💀
you know i just might :D that one and the KFC wings are quite interesting and i think they prove that Alice is a hoyoverse employee
@@theunlikelygenshingamerWoooo! 🥰
1:34 "in her brief life" so what does this mean? the princess can't be that young because it's mentioned later about them having "too-long lives" or something or maybe there's rebirth happening? 🤔 is that why the abyss sibling is recorded in the irminsul?
Well back when he knew her at that age she was no where near 500 yet.
Both of them eventually lived just super long lives but at that point they could have been normal aged
In the Chinese text for the wind glider, it's mentioned that the brief life is related for how long she stayed in Khaenri'ah, the twins are probably way older than 500 yo.
I realize the wings say the Sibling is young but we know they are not. A better question would be why did the Sibling lower themselves to help out such a minor nation. It would be like going from being president of the USA to afterwards becoming the mayor of a small town. I guess she just took pity on them with their insane King.
The wings do NOT say the Sibling was corrupted by the Abyss. In fact we can deduce that they never did get that Abyssal power because if they did then they'd be able to beat Dainsleif in a sword fight, right? So where did that Abyssal energy end up? Well we know a group of "young" people who helped Dain defy King Irmin's decree (to lock up Vedrfolnir), four or five leading lights of the younger generation of Khaenri'ah like Dain. They ended up flooded with Abyssal energy enough to end a world. Wonder where they got that from, eh? Same reason Sibling did NOT get all the energy?
And now we know what event Dain did that Sibling blames him for the entire mess. He killed king Irmin. Or something like that. He and his "Sinner" buddies were already up for treason the moment they decided to free Vedrfolnir of course (reversing the king's orders). Yeah I can see how regicide might make a difference to the unfolding events. And yet in Dain's mind this was a righteous act because Irmin was insane (which is hinted at in the Arlecchino stuff - the weapon I think). Sounds like killing Decarabian, or Och Kan, or any of the other insane dictators.
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So the pureblood obsessed Khaenri'ahns accepted a stranger as the heir who had no ties to Khaenri'ah or it's pure blood. Why? Because they were a Descender of course, the very type of femi-god like being they had been searching for thousands of years. But perhaps it's more. Does the Sibling in fact in some respects have similar blood to the royal bloodline due to the primordial Khaenri'ahn's blood heritage on their mother's side?
And yes, Dain is a nobody after all. He's not older than about 500-550 years old. He has no special secrets it seems.
Anfortas still seems to jump the gun on his regency. Now he had a king AND an heir missing, although it seems the Sibling was only missing for a little while. Shouldn't Anfortas have known the heir was around and due to return? I guess he didn't and wanted some sort of chain of command? I don't see why he needed to jump to creating a regency.
So presumably the energy absorption thing has something to do with Sibling becoming a not-Descender? But this doesn't seem to give a reason for them escaping from the Unknown God so quickly, or the Sibling lying by omission to the Traveler as to their purpose in attacking the Unknown God (they certainly were NOT trying to just leave Teyvat). You could argue maybe the Unknown God just puts Sibling back in Teyvat because they "belong" there so are supposedly chained by their "fate" and therefore not a threat -- all evidence against that not withstanding? They did just come and attack you dude. Yeah I don't think that theory is right.
Dain hates the Sinners his former buddies in the map cap little scheme to nip down to the lowest levels of Khaneri'ah and rescue his bro. He does not hate the Sibling though. We're told that in Bedtime Story. So Dain does NOT think that the Sibling abandoned Khaenri'ah as he says of his former comrades. Dain does NOT blame Sibling but Sibling blames Dain. Maybe the issue is that the while Dain and pals were journeying down wards to save Vedrfolnir, which they managed I guess, they happened to bump into the Prince and Irmin coming from having a ton of Abyssal energy absorbed - which had worked and everything was fine. Then something happens and it's Dain's fault. Perhaps it's his fault because he's the reason the "Sinners" were down there to begin with? Or because he kills Irmin? Or because for some reason the "Sinners" end up absorbing massive Abyssal energy from the Sibling? Energy that was needed for protecting Khaenri'ah perhaps? Perhaps defending Khaenri'ah from an attack that Vedrfolnir had predicted? The "Sinners" got the energy but for whatever reason were unable to control it or use it or were unwilling (Dain's view, which seems unlikely). Thus Sibling blames Dain correctly and Dain does not blame Sibling.
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No, this answers more questions than it asks. Or rather the questions that are raised were always around. It's a confirmation of what was suspected in large part.
Yippee!
Didn’t capitano say he would like to know how he looks like he dose. Also could capitano be his bro
So they are giving the gliders to everyone, just letting Xbox have it early is what I heard…why does PS get exclusives but no one else does?
Make a video on your opinion on whether celestia was wrong or right
Interesting, do you think folk would want to see that?
@theunlikelygenshingamer yh for suuure. controversial and we get to so your opinion on the matter. it lets us engage with you as a player and enjoyer of lore rather than just you as a lore narrator
Celestia did nothing wrong your honor!! They just wanted to maintain the world of their sherrished humans your honor! Khaenrih'a royalty rock the foundation of the world and let in the Abyss and cause all the chaos of the Abyss your honor
We are some of those few people who think that Celestia did what it needed to. You can tell that's why Dain isn't eager to revive the homeland either. Yes innocents were lost who should not have been but. That nation was messing with some bad bad mojo
Been a Celestia defender my whole life, it feels good to be vindicated😌
No matter how much we prove that Celestia IS NOT BAD, people would still rather claim they are
@@carlospedro7050Like, Celestia is not good either. To usurp an alien planet and genocide their inhabitants, stealing their power and teraforming their world is NOT a good thing.
@@iosis9324 they conquered Celestia fair and square aaaaaages ago, but they never genocided ANYONE, besides obviously when they had to drop the nails to stop the abyss. But that's moreso the populations fault. Celestial is neutral but they love humanity and all of the human realm
@@iosis9324 they didn't teraform the planet either. They made a brand new realm
How do you get this glider?
as of rn you can only get it if you play on Xbox, but in 5.3 all players will receive it in their mail
@ oh okay thanks, I knew everyone would get it but wasn’t sure when/how
THE SCOND GLIDER HAS HIT THE TOWER‼️
Once again, Hoyo dropping lore bombs on the most casual, skippable items ever 💀
No switch?
what do youthink about capitano being the sentinal knight
Dainsleif also hold title Captain......but recent 5.2 archon quest capitano reveal his face
@@wingz7656 have played quest yet. I intend to today if rl gives me a chance so no spolers plz 🙂
ORORO CAME HOME🎉
Wait, how do we get it?
if you have a xbox series x or s login on it and get it from the mail. if you have gamepass ultimate you can login through pc or wait till 5.3 when they'll be available for everyone
pulled chasca and ororon in the same 10 pull only had to make 2 10 pulls🙌
I got Qiqi and Ororon in the same ten pull =(
🫂💙
You know... What if what I'm about to say is true:
- The Abyss twin died during the cataclysm, that's why Nahida could only access their information up to a certain point
- Dain is carrying and using the twins remains to stop the curse from spreading, since those curses are abyssal in nature and elemental energy and phlogiston cancels out the abyss and since they are starts, they are the most purest source and medium for that type of energy
- The encounters we've had up to this point with the twin are just projections and memories of themselves used by the abyss to mimic them, like the most sophisticated version of the mimiflora and the whooperflower albedo.
- Dain feels like he failed her and wants to bring her back to life but he also wants to rescue his brother and change the world
Edit:
- Also, what if the destroyed celestial body beyond the firmament of natlan is the twins original world
Yeah that'll probably explain why irminsul doesn't consider the twin as descender, because they're just a copy made by the abyss, the specialty of the abyss
Soo what does this have to do with xbox 💀 lmao
so dain x lumine frfrrrrr
First of all, what is the name of the track that plays at 0:10?
Second, I also had my suspicions that there was something strange with the travelers, since the moment Canotila called them "Beast capable of devouring the world" I always suspected that it had something to do with the Abyss, and now that these wings have come out, what has been revealed to us in the new mission of 5.2 has made me think that the Twins are actually some kind of Lovecraft-type entity.
Also, something that I find curious is that both the traveler and Paimon are immune to the effects of the Abyss without having serious side effects, however, the latter was affected by the residue of gods, as happens in the factory of Delusions and the power of Raiden when leaving Tenshukaku, the same with the powers of the dragons, because the traveler after resonating with Hydro was just as sensitive as Neuvillette and was able to speak with the Oceanid of the Fontana Lucine, apart from the fact that he has Phemuma alignment, also, without counting the Melusines, the Traveler was able to listen and enter the mind of Elynas who is another being of the Abyss. Therefore I think that the Twin who is a descendant came from the sea of stars (The same Place of the Narval and maybe Goysothot) and the one who belongs to Teyvat is a clone or its reverse copy, since since 4.8 the emphasis was being placed on the subject of mirrors and reflections with everything in Simulanka.
The song is Obscure Obsession
Lumine best princess!
Lumine best traveler!
What about aether?😢
Thanks for sharing this information, as Hoyo didn't seem to be going to do it 😒
Seriously, what kind of “genius“ came up with the idea to cram such a story into a limited random item?!!
It is not that limited tho as it will be given to all players during 5.2
@@minhhuytruong8667*5.3, not 5.2
@@minhhuytruong8667 5.3, but people who join after that patch probably couldn't get an access to them
@@minhhuytruong8667 Do you mean really all players or those who have an X-box? I understand that these wings are a gift especially for the X-box
I accidentally but happily pulled Chasca. I am Fischl's #1 fan (#9283710) but i am looking forward to this like a motha censored