@@astrangerontheinternet1 100 percent fake news . show me one time a feature marketed as pro was ever shipped on a base device across any apple product
This "people don't care about 120Hz" attitude needs to change. Apple is profiting off people's ignorance at this point. 120Hz is no longer a premium feature-it's become a standard. Including it would have made more sense than adding the Camera Control feature to the base iPhone 16.
d1 crashout academy head ahh its a mf feature u can live without go cry about it (i got the 16 and am mad but tbh fomo doesnt exist without it so who gaf)
120 Hz, though, uses a LOT of battery power, even with variable refresh rate. There's a reason why even the basic Samsung Galaxy S24 has a 4,000 mAh battery.
@Sacto1654 Not much, actually. There's a misconception that 120Hz runs all the time, but that's not true. It only kicks in while scrolling, in games that need it, or in other areas where smoothness is required. When you watch a video or perform other tasks, it automatically adjusts to 60Hz or whatever framerate is needed to play the content. So, the percentage of time 120Hz is active is minimal, but it makes a huge difference in day-to-day use. That's also why the impact on battery life is minimal, though smartphones today require daily charging anyway. My point is that this feature has become standard and shouldn’t be overlooked by a company like Apple. Rumors suggest Apple will bring 120Hz to all iPhones next year, and I’m sure everyone will suddenly notice the real difference it makes.
If the 16 could natively support raw photos I would get it. It doesn't and so it's immediately disqualified for me. I find it such an odd intentional handicap from Apple. Samsung phones down to their A series can take raw photos (I know this because I owned an A20 4 years ago which introduced me to the format). Why a phone that expensive can't, despite being plenty more powerful than the iPhone 13 pro which debuted RAW is beyond me. Excellent video as always Kyle!
Forget the pro?? No freaking way i'm going back to a 60Hz display no matter how great a phone is. All base iPhones from iPhone 12 and above are great phones EXCEPT for the 60Hz refresh rate. I see comments calling us nerds and that 120Hz is not a big deal... you're fooling yourselves. You don't see a big difference cause you never owned a pro.... once you get used to it it's a night and day difference! I would gladly own a base iPhone 17 with 120Hz even if it's aluminium, 2 cameras, worse battery life, etc.... but until then a 13 pro is way way better to use than a base iPhone 16.
@@SyedZaid06 what u said… ion know why ppl make a big about 60hz vs 120hz… most apps don’t have a 120hz output, majority of the apps with use produce at 60hz
@@AmirrOnru25TH-camrs hype 120 hz while most people can't detect the difference. Meanwhile, some people aren't happy in life after watching a ton of hype videos and seem to only feel better about themselves after boarding the 'Hype Train'. They don't realize that a majority of the time they are scrolling at 80 hz ~ fact. 😂
@@MikeV-n6e I have iphone and Android, i don't know how you guys aren't feeling the difference. The difference is actually huge. My friend has pro variant, but apple never actually runs on 120Hz they limit it even giving it a feature. Please try 120Hz on Android
I had a 15 Pro Max and have switched to the standard 16. The primary motivation is size and weight. I came from an Xr and never got used to the size or weight of the Max. Apple made my decision easy by making the phone features fairly equal. The only thing I will miss is the telephoto lens. Being able to just handle the phone with one hand is just so worth it to me. I decided against the 16 Pro because it’s still fairly heavy and the price isn’t worth it to me. I see the 60hz vs 120hz but it’s not important to me at all.
I’m in your boat. Any other impressions had with swap. Wanna pick your brain about the change. This was my first max and love the bigger screen, but thinking of going back to standard size
Same here, I have the 15 max now but I’m really thinking about doing the regular 16….. wonder if 6.1 screen size vs 6.3 will make a high difference and also the 16 pro is still kinda heavy ….. I think was worried that this would be a downgrade but after your comment I might just go from the 15 max to regular pink 16 🤔
@@citysbarbershop2015 how good is the pink… I mean SALMON… the ultramarine is also on short list it pull the trigger. But hard to pass that pink, and get my first clear case lol
The thing that I dislike about the iPhone 16 is the 60hz display. I hate a choppy display and when I am using some other iPhone than my 15 Pro Max or a Pro model, I can instantly tell. I'm thinking about upgrading to the base model iPhone 17 when it comes out, but if it doesn't have the 120hz display, I'm not going to. 😭
If you’re a social media scrolling nut then yes you’re going to complain about the 60 hz display. But the rest of us who use a phone as a productivity device, this is the best base iPhone in a long time. It basically closed the gap between it and the pro models. 95% of the population doesn’t need all the other “Pro” features
Yep people complaining about a feature available in any 200$ phone not present in a 800$ phone are nut jobs. Apple is literally trying to punish it's customers for not spending more for pro version, it would be inexpensive for them to make 120hz screen on 16.
Fr man couldn’t have said it better. It’s way better than my 13 I upgraded from! The dynamic notch, the camera control, APPLE INTELLIGENCE I MIGHT ADD. And yeah it’s a nice phone !!
It’s a there 120hz is there the 16 and 16 pro have to same fucking screen there’s no reason not to just enable it in the software I’m sure apple is getting a bunch of use out of the 16 cents there saving from not paying an employee to enable it for the base model
This is the era of the base iPhone. 😆 The iPhone 17 is rumoured to be getting a 6.3” ProMotion screen just like the 17 Pro and 48MP cameras front and back. 🍿
I have the 15 Pro now and I want to stop being a "Pro" user, for a personal decision I want to be able to feel good using a basic iPhone 16. Something like living a slightly more minimalist lifestyle and asking myself: "Do I really need the most expensive and technological phone if one that costs 200 or 300 dollars less is more than enough for me?" Plus I set my current iPhone to 60Hz and it's not the end of the world, it's just a little different. I think I can live with that, so I'll buy the non-Pro model this year. Thanks for the video!
why would you set it to 60hz? that’s the dumbest shit i’ve heard. especially on a phone that adapts the refresh rate. paying that much money for a base iphone for me anyway, is a massive dealbreaker
i’m in the exact same situation! i consider myself a minimalist too and i decided to switch to the iPhone 16 (non pro) for a while and see how it goes. Gonna pick it up today!
@@astrangerontheinternet1 I too am very minimalist, I decided to sell one of my Ferrari’s today as having multiple just didn’t suit my minimalist lifestyle
they always say its the newest battery when its prolly a placebo, today i ran a 10 mile jog at 1-5 am and usually on an iphone XR (2018 model) it gets down to 60% charge but the iphone 16 got down to 75%, and thats after it coming out of the box 2 days ago so idk if the charge is actually better or even the same as old models but people think its better cuz its just fresher but will end up the same.
I lose interest, when a review of a phone turns into a camera review. When I get serious about photography, I use my actual (mirrorless) camera. It has a better & larger sensor, more sophisticated post processing options, more detail, better lenses, it's still super light weight, and it's... 8 years old. The camera in the iPhone is amazing and always accessible, but for what I use it for, it's been amazing for years. These incremental improvements (especially given the size and form factor) are great, but for me, they are not a selling point or a reason to upgrade.
Sorry, unless your a prof photographer, phones have replaced cameras, unless you live with a go pro stuck to your forehead. Thus the review is very appropriate for MOST users. By the way, if you expect any smartphone review not to detail the camera then your expectations are not realistic. Happens on this model, one of the changes is centred around better control over picture taking........... one would think you would be interested in that........... All in all your comment is bogus.
Same for me - the camera on my SE gen 2 is more than adequate for me; like you, I use cameras for photography and have no interest in iPhone camera feature adds.
@@Anavllama My comments may not be relevant to you, but they’re not “bogus”. My 8 year old camera takes better images with finer detail and WAY more data for things like editing and printing. Things that more than just a professional might want and need. For quick shots and casual use, the iPhone is great, but it’s been great (or more than good enough) for years. Compared to my 14 Pro, there is nothing in the 16’s motivating me to upgrade.
@@daveed4475 This is the dichotomy. As a photographer, I love the features they are adding to the iPhone, but they are NOT reasons for me to upgrade. When I upgrade my phone it's because of things like better build quality, battery life, WiFi, cell radios, etc. Things Apple rarely mentions, even when they add them. When I need better image quality and a photographic experience, I use my actual camera. Am I an anarchistic dinosaur? Probably. Does Apple care about me as a customer? Clearly not.
I see a difference took me a min when I'm using a 60hz I can tell instantly it's all choppy when scrolling & lag when I'm using 120hz it's smooth when scrolling no choppiness you would have too use a 120hz phone for a few months in order too tell I'll never go back too a 60hz
@@dewaneadams2023u can’t tell the day… I can tell that you listen to a lot of TH-cam content creators… my 60hz iPhone 16 plus is perfect I wasn’t that slow to pay a extra $400 for another 60hz Apple can have the carbon copy 120hz 16 pro/pro max
I asked several of my friends that are not into tech, aka average consumers, and they cant even tell the difference between the 2 screens. No wonder why people just dont care about the pro enough. The 60hz on the regular iphone is still so smooth most average people cant tell. I can't even tell either until i really focus into it. People are out here focusing too much on refresh rates like they're playing CS and COD. It's a phone, get over it.
I still have my iPhone 12 Pro Max, my husband and kids trade in every other year. I still don’t see a major difference, enough for me to actually want to upgrade. I’m considering leaving Apple all together. The price tags just don’t match the “upgraded specs”
I really dont care about 120hz, my 11 pro is 60,, i am really fine with it. People who say in 2024 blablabla, really, like we could say in 2024 you have to get an electric car because it is so SO SO SMOOTH, or you cannot have a car with manual gear because automatic gear is so good now. Really who cares, just buy what you want or needs. I dont need a new phone, instead i will buy something i dont have and want.
I'm not convinced. Camera control is pointless, not useless but pointless and 60hz in 2024? There's just no excuse for that. They should've just sold the Pro models because we all know that's the one they want you to buy, otherwise you're being dumb. Well most Apple users are anyways.
120 hz display doesn’t matter to people like me.I am quite busy in my work and productivity.no one cares about 60hz display.If you just use your phone while fucking day then sure you will need 120hz display.
5:59 The camera control is a nice idea but in general I kinda just wish it was finger print open with some other functions. I rather use the normal camera controls. Also I rather have the silence switch, but I’ll admit the change could be helpful. They do need to move it further up because it’s no longer a switch, it’s a button.
No what's hilarious is you having no clue how much in the minority you are in ! Of course you notice it . If you don't and your not a very mild user tho get your eyes checked my friend
I have a 16 pro however I have seen the 16 colours in the apple store and I love the blue and pink ones. Deffo apples best colours for a while on the normal iPhones
what you're looking at is when things are pushed to max output, and don't really reflect everyday use, but both actually have the roughly same temperature output under sustained stress, because that's what the phone throttles to. In this case, you can clearly see the heat disperses across the entire phone on the 16 rather than just one area, allowing it to run more efficiently with a higher level of performance. Essentially, you can push the 16 more because of the heat dispersion.
just dont use ur phone like a 6 year old ipad kid? get an ipad for gaming or even a mf console/pc, better use for ur phone is to keep the storage space for only pics/messages anyways i mean its not a mf playstation, idk how kids get ts heated when its legit a P H O N E
I’m using 14 plus for two years now since launch , I am averaging 2 hours a day more than my partner using 15 pro max since x-mas 9 months ago , and yet my battery health is 91% vs my partner 90% ! Shocking 9 months vs 2 years & 2 hours more extra a day ? Is the 120hz killing the battery health?
I'm using a S21 almost for 3 years as my personal phone, and a S10e for almost 5 years (firstly as my personal phone and now as a professional/banking device that stays almost always at home). Despite having 120hz, I use the S21 most of the time in 60hz because: 1 - I don't game on my phone. 2 - It saves some battery. 3 - I simply don't care having this super "fluidity" just to scroll menus and social media feeds. If 120hz is important to you, fine. But not everyone needs it or actually care for it. And I consider myself as kind of a in between intermediary/heavy user.
Its less about if you need it or not and more about, for what your paying it really should be your decision on if you want to use 120hz or not and not Apples. If the base model had 120hz i would pick it over the pro easily. But im used to high refresh screens (even office monitors get higher refresh rates now) which makes 60 hz less clear to me. Again you dont need 120hz but you should be the one deciding if you want it or not.
@@ChrisBa303 I agree with you on this. Apple has been using the argument that "the average user don't want this feature" because the averahe iPhone (non pro model) buyer really doesn't care for this, but if they had the option, perhaps their opinion on this would change. Still, people usually don't complain for the lack of features they don't understand or think they don't need, so it generates kind of a strange situation.
Switching back from 120hz to 60hz is something you only notice for like 1-2days MAX. I went from iPhone 15 pro max to iPhone 16 and I adjusted so quickly. It’s not bad at all
Depending on what you're using the iPhone for. If you need the best videos and you plan on editing them, then you need 15 pro to be able to shoot in ProRes. If you don't need that kind of stuff, than definitely iPhone 16.
I understand the 60Hz argument, but it’s a non issue for me. I’m blessed to afford any iPhone, but I chose the 16 Plus. To me, the weight and one handed usability for a large phone is more important.
Very informative review. I can live with 60 hz as the base model has all i need. I'll upgrade in 2 or 3 years when120 hz comes to the base model. I think ' Pro Motion' is overrated as most of the time your looking at 80 hz (unless intense gaming is involved) ~ fact. I spend 98% of my time actually viewing content: TH-cam, Netflix, News, etc. versus scrolling or gaming at extreme FPS to experience that occasional 120 hz hit. Subscribed. 👍
The new iPhone looks great, especially Teal, but it's photo's are too bright. I've seen comparisons to the 13 and the 13 has better exposure. But this is minor, you can adjust it yourself or maybe Apple will fix it with an OS update
I can absolutely see the difference between 60 and 120 fps displays. And it doesn’t bother me tbh. The regular 16 SHOULD have 120 hz display, but it is still a good phone without it.
Great video Kyle! Question for you on the actual modem on the base iPhone 16: Question - Does the base iPhone 16 use the Qualcomm Snapdragon X75 modem? I read only the 16 Pro models get the upgraded (and better!) modem? Thanks man and please keep the awesome video's coming! =)
120Hz isn't just for smoothness, it's also about touch response. The screen is insanely more touch responsive and reactive while scrolling I'm not even kidding, it is very noticeable. On 60Hz it feels like it drags along and you have to keep your finger more on the screen for it to register. The 16 costs 1100€ for the 256 GB model and the 16 plus 256 GB over 1200€ in Germany which is outrageous for 60Hz phones
The Camera Control button is, in my opinion, the worst feature this year. It is terribly fiddly and awkward to use. It seems totally superfluous and unnecessary. And the biggest downside? It actually *slows* down your picture-taking task! It's much faster just to use the on-screen controls. This button was ill-conceived. Instead of *removing* buttons from the iPhone, Apple decided to *add* new buttons such as the Action button and the Camera Control button. Steve Jobs must be spinning in his grave like a lathe. I sincerely hope they remove this feature in the next iteration of the iPhone (17 or 18) after users express their displeasure.
can anyone tell me how to do iCloud whatsapp back up ? my WhatsApp backup has been stuck at 83kb out of 5.6 gb for the past 12 hours. 1st time iPhone user here. i even subscribed to iCloud storage thinking the free storage of 5gb is small as compared to my backup file.
AI doesn't come to EU sadly. :( So sad that we won't get it. Hopefully they're going to make some changes so we could get it but I doubt it a lot. iPhone 16 Pro Max was the best options still for me. Wanted a bigger battery than with 13 Pro so decided to go bigger and I really like it.
Paying a premium for a phone and then compromising thinking most won't care enough. I'm not sure if this is even a review. Please also mention downsides charging them down rather than compensating it yourself. We while buying take too many wrong decision as we are not informed properly. It happened with iphone 15 and now 16 is no different. 15 had heating issue, 16 has that camera button disabling touch no one talks about. Please would request you all to not just glorify premium phones.
60hz at that price point ist just atrocious. its just a scam imo. i really like the apple system and animations but im not willing to pay a liver when i can get a samsung s24 (or s23 in regions with exynos s24 xd) for HALF the money of a normal iphone ?!
I get what yall saying but 60hz isnt that big of a deal tbh like if u have never used 120 hz u dont need it so just stick with 60hz or u will become ungrateful. Sure apple probably should add 60 hz to regular phones but all we can do is complain
Could be running 30hrtz and people would still buy because of brand. The vast majority of people who buy apple products don't buy for power they buy for status and simplicity these people don't pay attention to how many hertz it is or if they can customise every little thing.
Who cares about spatial video??? Very few people have the VR headset. Personally, I have no use for the Action button. The only feature of any significance to me is the macro photography, but that's not enough reason to upgrade.
Everyone demonstrates the 60hz screen in slow motion so we can tell the difference. I would love to have 120hz for the variable refresh rate and always on display, but I don’t really care about the fluidity. 60hz already looks super smooth to the human eye. Box office films are shot at 24hz.
Honestly, as someone who used the R 360° Stand case for almost a year, I can say, it’s the best case I’ve ever used. It feels sturdy, the MagSafe is really strong but never to the point where it’s annoying, I’ve dropped the phone many times and didn’t get a single scratch, and the stand is really handy for my use cases. The only thing that is annoying is the hinge of the stand wears off too quickly. It stopped being strong enough to hold a phone after a little bit more than half a year. So you may need to buy another one if you use it a lot.
I just hope the portless iphone crap doesn't turn out to be true. Like its just pointless, and cables are better. Just because apple has wireless garbage to sell doesn't mean that wired audio equipment that has better quality should be forgone. Not to mention, cable charging has absolutely 0 things wrong with it - wireless charging uses cables and still makes it worse.
120 hz is only noticeable while swiping through ui and if you do gaming for everything else there is no difference other than the price you pay to get it, I bought 16pm and just returned it and ordered 16 plus due to the price performance ratio also 16pm is heavy and taller so hard to fit in my pocket
Once the nonpro iphones get high refresh rate screen I probably will never buy a pro again. Barely use any of the “pro features”, I just really like having a high refresh rate display.
Honestly i dont really care about 120hz, give me any resident evil, change the camera layout instead of the usually square with 3 cameras and a long lasting battery and im sold
Went from a 15 pro max to a 16 and I love it . Only reason I “down graded “ was for a new redesign. I got tired of the basic 3 camera design . I’ve had it since the 11 pro and tired of it .
apple will never ship base iphone with 120hz since they have decided to call it pro motion it will never ever apppear on base phone this is true for all apple products no feature marketed as pro has ever appeared on a base product before
I feel like most of us get excited about the coolest and newest features only to play with it in the beginning and don't really incorporate it in our daily lives
I can tell you that when I worked at the Apple store less than 1% of customers even knew what refresh rate is nor could they tell me which phone had it by looking at it. The fact is the Pro phones rarely run at more than 60fps. Most of the time they a re running at 60fps or lower. Also, all these videos show the difference in slow motion because otherwise you would not even notice it. Unless you play games you really won't miss it.
I have been pondering for a long time weather to get the 16 or 16 pro, searching through endless videos to get to a conclusion. this comment may well have solidified my decision, the only reason i would have gone for the pro this year is because of the 120hz. i am coming from an iPhone 12 mini, and have never had a brand new top of the range phone before, so was really torn. i know i would never use most of the pro features any way. but now i know that about the 60hz that you have explained, i think ill just go for the base model 16 and save myself a couple of hundred £, thank you
120hz eats up battery and makes the phone work harder. 60hz genuinely doesnt look bad, still smooth animations and movement. Is their a clear difference? For sure but at the cost of battery life and a few hundred more dollars, no thanks
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At $799, its high time they ship 120Hz. I'm an iPhone user since 3GS but its about damn time.
apparently the iphone 17 is gonna have 120hz, but i’m not 100% sure if this is true or not
@@astrangerontheinternet1 100 percent fake news . show me one time a feature marketed as pro was ever shipped on a base device across any apple product
@@astrangerontheinternet1 This is said every year lol
@@zohairua they don’t need to. Buy a pro if you need 120Hz
@@Das_Germaican at that price, they have to
This "people don't care about 120Hz" attitude needs to change. Apple is profiting off people's ignorance at this point. 120Hz is no longer a premium feature-it's become a standard. Including it would have made more sense than adding the Camera Control feature to the base iPhone 16.
d1 crashout academy head ahh its a mf feature u can live without go cry about it (i got the 16 and am mad but tbh fomo doesnt exist without it so who gaf)
120 Hz, though, uses a LOT of battery power, even with variable refresh rate. There's a reason why even the basic Samsung Galaxy S24 has a 4,000 mAh battery.
i gave my brother a 250$ samsung and it have a 120hz, like on an entry phone, the 60hz just killed the non Pro 16 for me
@Sacto1654 Not much, actually. There's a misconception that 120Hz runs all the time, but that's not true. It only kicks in while scrolling, in games that need it, or in other areas where smoothness is required. When you watch a video or perform other tasks, it automatically adjusts to 60Hz or whatever framerate is needed to play the content. So, the percentage of time 120Hz is active is minimal, but it makes a huge difference in day-to-day use. That's also why the impact on battery life is minimal, though smartphones today require daily charging anyway.
My point is that this feature has become standard and shouldn’t be overlooked by a company like Apple. Rumors suggest Apple will bring 120Hz to all iPhones next year, and I’m sure everyone will suddenly notice the real difference it makes.
@@KevinKevin-qp1lg enjoy the scam of apple not giving you a basic feature due to your ignorance.
If the 16 could natively support raw photos I would get it. It doesn't and so it's immediately disqualified for me. I find it such an odd intentional handicap from Apple. Samsung phones down to their A series can take raw photos (I know this because I owned an A20 4 years ago which introduced me to the format). Why a phone that expensive can't, despite being plenty more powerful than the iPhone 13 pro which debuted RAW is beyond me.
Excellent video as always Kyle!
60Hz in 2024 is a disgrace. It’s like lcd vs oled.
@@Garret141076 get pro dude
@@BabeiIlie dw bout him bro hes off his meds n going into his tuition free d1 crashout academy
@@BabeiIlie$900 phone should have 120 lol don’t blindly defend apple
Yes but if it’s important, people get a Pro or another brand: simple.
People have to take accountability for giving power to Apple.
Forget the pro?? No freaking way i'm going back to a 60Hz display no matter how great a phone is. All base iPhones from iPhone 12 and above are great phones EXCEPT for the 60Hz refresh rate. I see comments calling us nerds and that 120Hz is not a big deal... you're fooling yourselves. You don't see a big difference cause you never owned a pro.... once you get used to it it's a night and day difference! I would gladly own a base iPhone 17 with 120Hz even if it's aluminium, 2 cameras, worse battery life, etc.... but until then a 13 pro is way way better to use than a base iPhone 16.
The phone usually doesnt even run at 120hz its 80hz sometimes for some reason
Forget 120 hz? No, thx
i hv 15 pro for a year almost..turned off 120 hz to sv battery...
@@BabeiIlie Does it really save battery? I thought it was adaptive 120 Hz, so it's 120 Hz when it's moving and lower Hz when not
They should’ve made all the phones 120hz and saved the camera control features for the pro models.
You mean actually 80hz 😂
@@av-ru-mi okay, call up tim cook and tell him
I tried the 16 vs the 16 pro side by side and that 120 hertz felt much better and not cheap or lagging so the pro is what I got. It’s much smoother
Loving my 16 Plus.
@@SyedZaid06 what u said… ion know why ppl make a big about 60hz vs 120hz… most apps don’t have a 120hz output, majority of the apps with use produce at 60hz
@@AmirrOnru25TH-camrs hype 120 hz while most people can't detect the difference. Meanwhile, some people aren't happy in life after watching a ton of hype videos and seem to only feel better about themselves after boarding the 'Hype Train'. They don't realize that a majority of the time they are scrolling at 80 hz ~ fact. 😂
@@MikeV-n6e I have iphone and Android, i don't know how you guys aren't feeling the difference. The difference is actually huge. My friend has pro variant, but apple never actually runs on 120Hz they limit it even giving it a feature.
Please try 120Hz on Android
Regular 16 here almost got the plus cuz of the bigger battery but just couldn’t imagine using a big ass phone for a couple years straight 😂
what has the battery life been like for you? also, if you’re coming from a smaller phone, how are you finding the size?
has cell phone reception and call quality improved? thanks
I got the plus ultramarine I love it ❤
I had a 15 Pro Max and have switched to the standard 16. The primary motivation is size and weight. I came from an Xr and never got used to the size or weight of the Max. Apple made my decision easy by making the phone features fairly equal. The only thing I will miss is the telephoto lens. Being able to just handle the phone with one hand is just so worth it to me. I decided against the 16 Pro because it’s still fairly heavy and the price isn’t worth it to me. I see the 60hz vs 120hz but it’s not important to me at all.
I’m in your boat.
Any other impressions had with swap. Wanna pick your brain about the change.
This was my first max and love the bigger screen, but thinking of going back to standard size
Same here, I have the 15 max now but I’m really thinking about doing the regular 16….. wonder if 6.1 screen size vs 6.3 will make a high difference and also the 16 pro is still kinda heavy ….. I think was worried that this would be a downgrade but after your comment I might just go from the 15 max to regular pink 16 🤔
@@citysbarbershop2015 how good is the pink… I mean SALMON… the ultramarine is also on short list it pull the trigger. But hard to pass that pink, and get my first clear case lol
Same! I’m digging that pink! And plus I want a smaller phone I’m debating between the 16 pro or 16 pink 🤔
Its a much better value than the 16 pro, but agh 60hz!
Protip: Avoiding wireless charging leads to a healthier and longer lasting battery for long-term use
Upgraded from the 13 mini (but kept it haha) I’m loving my pink 16. 😌
That’s the exact combination I want 13 mini and 16 regular, kinda regret buying 15 pro max
The thing that I dislike about the iPhone 16 is the 60hz display. I hate a choppy display and when I am using some other iPhone than my 15 Pro Max or a Pro model, I can instantly tell. I'm thinking about upgrading to the base model iPhone 17 when it comes out, but if it doesn't have the 120hz display, I'm not going to. 😭
The camera button only makes sense to use it in landscape...holding the phone upright and taking a picture using the button looks uncomfortable
ive seen people even have cases for the iphone 13 pro and up, blocking the camera control button on the side like what-
I don't understand why they can't compromise with at least 90hz. 60hz is in the 100$ Android territory
If you’re a social media scrolling nut then yes you’re going to complain about the 60 hz display. But the rest of us who use a phone as a productivity device, this is the best base iPhone in a long time. It basically closed the gap between it and the pro models. 95% of the population doesn’t need all the other “Pro” features
Yep people complaining about a feature available in any 200$ phone not present in a 800$ phone are nut jobs. Apple is literally trying to punish it's customers for not spending more for pro version, it would be inexpensive for them to make 120hz screen on 16.
you'll be happy with iphone Xr as a productivity device.
Don't upgrade it.
For people who want to upgrade they need 120Hz.
Fr man couldn’t have said it better. It’s way better than my 13 I upgraded from! The dynamic notch, the camera control, APPLE INTELLIGENCE I MIGHT ADD. And yeah it’s a nice phone !!
It’s a there 120hz is there the 16 and 16 pro have to same fucking screen there’s no reason not to just enable it in the software I’m sure apple is getting a bunch of use out of the 16 cents there saving from not paying an employee to enable it for the base model
Im usually on social media and dont mind the 60hz, imo ots like a bonus that im not too bothered about
This is the era of the base iPhone. 😆
The iPhone 17 is rumoured to be getting a 6.3” ProMotion screen just like the 17 Pro and 48MP cameras front and back. 🍿
no.
my 200 dollar xiaomi shit chinese phone has 120 hz and a 800 dollar brand new 2024 iphone doesn't. It's a big scam.
One plus nord 30 ,200usd also have 120hz too😂
I have the 15 Pro now and I want to stop being a "Pro" user, for a personal decision I want to be able to feel good using a basic iPhone 16. Something like living a slightly more minimalist lifestyle and asking myself: "Do I really need the most expensive and technological phone if one that costs 200 or 300 dollars less is more than enough for me?" Plus I set my current iPhone to 60Hz and it's not the end of the world, it's just a little different. I think I can live with that, so I'll buy the non-Pro model this year. Thanks for the video!
why would you set it to 60hz? that’s the dumbest shit i’ve heard. especially on a phone that adapts the refresh rate. paying that much money for a base iphone for me anyway, is a massive dealbreaker
If you really wanted to be minimalist you could just not upgrade from a 15 pro after a year of use😂
i’m in the exact same situation! i consider myself a minimalist too and i decided to switch to the iPhone 16 (non pro) for a while and see how it goes. Gonna pick it up today!
@@ConorJ99was thinking the exact same thing lmao
@@astrangerontheinternet1 I too am very minimalist, I decided to sell one of my Ferrari’s today as having multiple just didn’t suit my minimalist lifestyle
Battery is good ofc its brand new compared to ip15pro. No 120 hz display for 800 usd phone is just insult to customers 😅
they always say its the newest battery when its prolly a placebo, today i ran a 10 mile jog at 1-5 am and usually on an iphone XR (2018 model) it gets down to 60% charge but the iphone 16 got down to 75%, and thats after it coming out of the box 2 days ago so idk if the charge is actually better or even the same as old models but people think its better cuz its just fresher but will end up the same.
Basic model It's enough for ordinary users. It's my personal opinion. And I love my 15 Pro.
I lose interest, when a review of a phone turns into a camera review. When I get serious about photography, I use my actual (mirrorless) camera. It has a better & larger sensor, more sophisticated post processing options, more detail, better lenses, it's still super light weight, and it's... 8 years old. The camera in the iPhone is amazing and always accessible, but for what I use it for, it's been amazing for years. These incremental improvements (especially given the size and form factor) are great, but for me, they are not a selling point or a reason to upgrade.
Sorry, unless your a prof photographer, phones have replaced cameras, unless you live with a go pro stuck to your forehead. Thus the review is very appropriate for MOST users. By the way, if you expect any smartphone review not to detail the camera then your expectations are not realistic. Happens on this model, one of the changes is centred around better control over picture taking........... one would think you would be interested in that........... All in all your comment is bogus.
Same for me - the camera on my SE gen 2 is more than adequate for me; like you, I use cameras for photography and have no interest in iPhone camera feature adds.
@@Anavllama My comments may not be relevant to you, but they’re not “bogus”. My 8 year old camera takes better images with finer detail and WAY more data for things like editing and printing. Things that more than just a professional might want and need. For quick shots and casual use, the iPhone is great, but it’s been great (or more than good enough) for years. Compared to my 14 Pro, there is nothing in the 16’s motivating me to upgrade.
@@daveed4475 This is the dichotomy. As a photographer, I love the features they are adding to the iPhone, but they are NOT reasons for me to upgrade. When I upgrade my phone it's because of things like better build quality, battery life, WiFi, cell radios, etc. Things Apple rarely mentions, even when they add them. When I need better image quality and a photographic experience, I use my actual camera. Am I an anarchistic dinosaur? Probably. Does Apple care about me as a customer? Clearly not.
The best video about the iPhone 16 I've seen on TH-cam. Thank you from Brasil.
I don't see a difference between 60 hz and 120 hz. So regular models are good enough for me.
I see a difference took me a min when I'm using a 60hz I can tell instantly it's all choppy when scrolling & lag when I'm using 120hz it's smooth when scrolling no choppiness you would have too use a 120hz phone for a few months in order too tell I'll never go back too a 60hz
@@dewaneadams2023 I have been using Samsung A52s for 3 years.
me too
@@dewaneadams2023u can’t tell the day… I can tell that you listen to a lot of TH-cam content creators… my 60hz iPhone 16 plus is perfect I wasn’t that slow to pay a extra $400 for another 60hz Apple can have the carbon copy 120hz 16 pro/pro max
Same
you can feel the 60hz buy the pro , i changed mine!
fr, i hoped for 90hz on the base models...
Out of all the video I’ve watch you’ve convinced me to get that Torres case
I asked several of my friends that are not into tech, aka average consumers, and they cant even tell the difference between the 2 screens. No wonder why people just dont care about the pro enough. The 60hz on the regular iphone is still so smooth most average people cant tell. I can't even tell either until i really focus into it. People are out here focusing too much on refresh rates like they're playing CS and COD. It's a phone, get over it.
I still have my iPhone 12 Pro Max, my husband and kids trade in every other year. I still don’t see a major difference, enough for me to actually want to upgrade. I’m considering leaving Apple all together. The price tags just don’t match the “upgraded specs”
Exactly.. well said…
I really dont care about 120hz, my 11 pro is 60,, i am really fine with it. People who say in 2024 blablabla, really, like we could say in 2024 you have to get an electric car because it is so SO SO SMOOTH, or you cannot have a car with manual gear because automatic gear is so good now. Really who cares, just buy what you want or needs. I dont need a new phone, instead i will buy something i dont have and want.
I'm not convinced. Camera control is pointless, not useless but pointless and 60hz in 2024? There's just no excuse for that. They should've just sold the Pro models because we all know that's the one they want you to buy, otherwise you're being dumb. Well most Apple users are anyways.
120 hz display doesn’t matter to people like me.I am quite busy in my work and productivity.no one cares about 60hz display.If you just use your phone while fucking day then sure you will need 120hz display.
I dig this design and colors but I cant stand 60hz. The pro is too expensive and boring design. I'd rather go with Pixel 9.
I was waiting for your review =)
what about the cameras themselves. I didn’t really understand. Like how does the iphone 16 base model compare to the 15 pro and/or 16 pro?
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The camera control is a nice idea but in general I kinda just wish it was finger print open with some other functions.
I rather use the normal camera controls.
Also I rather have the silence switch, but I’ll admit the change could be helpful. They do need to move it further up because it’s no longer a switch, it’s a button.
I still dont like the camera button tho
May I ask why? 🤔
well don’t use it
@@jayson2650 big brain moment
Everyone complaining about 60hz is hilarious😂 you barely notice it. I had a 15PM and it doesn’t bother me one bit on my 16 Plus
No what's hilarious is you having no clue how much in the minority you are in ! Of course you notice it . If you don't and your not a very mild user tho get your eyes checked my friend
@@MartyHarrison-cx4gu I bet you’re a lot of fun at parties.. 😂
An iterative update over the 15 at best…these used to be the ‘S’ models. I’ll stick with my 15 thanks.
I have a 16 pro however I have seen the 16 colours in the apple store and I love the blue and pink ones. Deffo apples best colours for a while on the normal iPhones
So the 17 hopefully will be a whole new phone, all the 16s have the same stuff (besides 120 htz)
In the temperature comparison
15 max temp 38.5
16 max temp 42.5
Then how is it better
what you're looking at is when things are pushed to max output, and don't really reflect everyday use, but both actually have the roughly same temperature output under sustained stress, because that's what the phone throttles to. In this case, you can clearly see the heat disperses across the entire phone on the 16 rather than just one area, allowing it to run more efficiently with a higher level of performance. Essentially, you can push the 16 more because of the heat dispersion.
just dont use ur phone like a 6 year old ipad kid? get an ipad for gaming or even a mf console/pc, better use for ur phone is to keep the storage space for only pics/messages anyways i mean its not a mf playstation, idk how kids get ts heated when its legit a P H O N E
forget the whole 16 series so that iphone will innovate and force 120hz on iphone 17
So besides 120 hz on base model 16, what else would you add to say the Iphone 16 Pro models? What other innovation do you have in mind? 🤷♂️
@@MikeV-n6e Next Gen Battery, remove the dynamic island, atleast 50w fast charging, not ground breaking but atleast a 900usd phone would have.
@@bedscenez I'd take that! 👍
@@bedscenez If they removed the Camera Control button...I wouldn't miss it. 📸
Hey i liked ur video ❤
16 is so trash people already talking about how the 17 gonna be better😂
I’m using 14 plus for two years now since launch , I am averaging 2 hours a day more than my partner using 15 pro max since x-mas 9 months ago , and yet my battery health is 91% vs my partner 90% ! Shocking 9 months vs 2 years & 2 hours more extra a day ? Is the 120hz killing the battery health?
Yes ,that why I love plus 😂pro max battery run fasting becuz120 hz ,so they have to charge the battery more than plus ,kill the battery healthy
"Forgot this year iphone and wait for iphone 17" there fixed it for you
i kept my 15 pro max cus its better than the 16 still
Did i miss the part where you say ‘forget the pro’?
< 120Hz = Inadequate
I'm using a S21 almost for 3 years as my personal phone, and a S10e for almost 5 years (firstly as my personal phone and now as a professional/banking device that stays almost always at home). Despite having 120hz, I use the S21 most of the time in 60hz because:
1 - I don't game on my phone.
2 - It saves some battery.
3 - I simply don't care having this super "fluidity" just to scroll menus and social media feeds.
If 120hz is important to you, fine. But not everyone needs it or actually care for it. And I consider myself as kind of a in between intermediary/heavy user.
💯Same, I set my phone to auto refresh rate to save on battery. I find most apps don't run at a full 120Hz all the time anyway.
Its less about if you need it or not and more about, for what your paying it really should be your decision on if you want to use 120hz or not and not Apples. If the base model had 120hz i would pick it over the pro easily. But im used to high refresh screens (even office monitors get higher refresh rates now) which makes 60 hz less clear to me. Again you dont need 120hz but you should be the one deciding if you want it or not.
@@ChrisBa303 I agree with you on this. Apple has been using the argument that "the average user don't want this feature" because the averahe iPhone (non pro model) buyer really doesn't care for this, but if they had the option, perhaps their opinion on this would change.
Still, people usually don't complain for the lack of features they don't understand or think they don't need, so it generates kind of a strange situation.
Loving my SE Gen 2 😂
Bro nice haircut ❤❤❤
nuh uh
-120hz
-telephoto
-pro chip
-more battery
-bigger screen
-usb 3
-4k 120fps
-proraw
-Always on Display
-48mp UltraWide
-night mode portraits
-Log video
-ACES
-quad mic
-Prores
-LiDAR
Switching back from 120hz to 60hz is something you only notice for like 1-2days MAX. I went from iPhone 15 pro max to iPhone 16 and I adjusted so quickly. It’s not bad at all
What will you recommend between Iphone 15 pro and iphone 16 if both same price? 120hz is no big deal with me I prefer battery.
16 for sure
Depending on what you're using the iPhone for. If you need the best videos and you plan on editing them, then you need 15 pro to be able to shoot in ProRes. If you don't need that kind of stuff, than definitely iPhone 16.
I understand the 60Hz argument, but it’s a non issue for me. I’m blessed to afford any iPhone, but I chose the 16 Plus. To me, the weight and one handed usability for a large phone is more important.
Very informative review. I can live with 60 hz as the base model has all i need. I'll upgrade in 2 or 3 years when120 hz comes to the base model. I think ' Pro Motion' is overrated as most of the time your looking at 80 hz (unless intense gaming is involved) ~ fact. I spend 98% of my time actually viewing content: TH-cam, Netflix, News, etc. versus scrolling or gaming at extreme FPS to experience that occasional 120 hz hit. Subscribed. 👍
The new iPhone looks great, especially Teal, but it's photo's are too bright. I've seen comparisons to the 13 and the 13 has better exposure.
But this is minor, you can adjust it yourself or maybe Apple will fix it with an OS update
I can absolutely see the difference between 60 and 120 fps displays. And it doesn’t bother me tbh. The regular 16 SHOULD have 120 hz display, but it is still a good phone without it.
Great video Kyle! Question for you on the actual modem on the base iPhone 16:
Question - Does the base iPhone 16 use the Qualcomm Snapdragon X75 modem? I read only the 16 Pro models get the upgraded (and better!) modem?
Thanks man and please keep the awesome video's coming! =)
120Hz isn't just for smoothness, it's also about touch response. The screen is insanely more touch responsive and reactive while scrolling I'm not even kidding, it is very noticeable. On 60Hz it feels like it drags along and you have to keep your finger more on the screen for it to register. The 16 costs 1100€ for the 256 GB model and the 16 plus 256 GB over 1200€ in Germany which is outrageous for 60Hz phones
The Camera Control button is, in my opinion, the worst feature this year. It is terribly fiddly and awkward to use. It seems totally superfluous and unnecessary. And the biggest downside? It actually *slows* down your picture-taking task! It's much faster just to use the on-screen controls.
This button was ill-conceived. Instead of *removing* buttons from the iPhone, Apple decided to *add* new buttons such as the Action button and the Camera Control button. Steve Jobs must be spinning in his grave like a lathe.
I sincerely hope they remove this feature in the next iteration of the iPhone (17 or 18) after users express their displeasure.
can anyone tell me how to do iCloud whatsapp back up ? my WhatsApp backup has been stuck at 83kb out of 5.6 gb for the past 12 hours. 1st time iPhone user here. i even subscribed to iCloud storage thinking the free storage of 5gb is small as compared to my backup file.
AI doesn't come to EU sadly. :( So sad that we won't get it. Hopefully they're going to make some changes so we could get it but I doubt it a lot. iPhone 16 Pro Max was the best options still for me. Wanted a bigger battery than with 13 Pro so decided to go bigger and I really like it.
Paying a premium for a phone and then compromising thinking most won't care enough. I'm not sure if this is even a review. Please also mention downsides charging them down rather than compensating it yourself. We while buying take too many wrong decision as we are not informed properly. It happened with iphone 15 and now 16 is no different. 15 had heating issue, 16 has that camera button disabling touch no one talks about. Please would request you all to not just glorify premium phones.
60hz at that price point ist just atrocious. its just a scam imo. i really like the apple system and animations but im not willing to pay a liver when i can get a samsung s24 (or s23 in regions with exynos s24 xd) for HALF the money of a normal iphone ?!
I get what yall saying but 60hz isnt that big of a deal tbh like if u have never used 120 hz u dont need it so just stick with 60hz or u will become ungrateful. Sure apple probably should add 60 hz to regular phones but all we can do is complain
Could be running 30hrtz and people would still buy because of brand. The vast majority of people who buy apple products don't buy for power they buy for status and simplicity these people don't pay attention to how many hertz it is or if they can customise every little thing.
Who cares about spatial video??? Very few people have the VR headset.
Personally, I have no use for the Action button.
The only feature of any significance to me is the macro photography, but that's not enough reason to upgrade.
Does the regular 16 have LiDAR? I don’t have any Pro use cases, but I do use my phone for measurements quite a bit and appreciate the LiDAR accuracy.
Everyone demonstrates the 60hz screen in slow motion so we can tell the difference. I would love to have 120hz for the variable refresh rate and always on display, but I don’t really care about the fluidity. 60hz already looks super smooth to the human eye. Box office films are shot at 24hz.
This phone’s refresh rate is UNACCEPTABLE for it’s price! Such a shame cause the design is sleek!
Honestly, as someone who used the R 360° Stand case for almost a year, I can say, it’s the best case I’ve ever used. It feels sturdy, the MagSafe is really strong but never to the point where it’s annoying, I’ve dropped the phone many times and didn’t get a single scratch, and the stand is really handy for my use cases.
The only thing that is annoying is the hinge of the stand wears off too quickly. It stopped being strong enough to hold a phone after a little bit more than half a year. So you may need to buy another one if you use it a lot.
I just hope the portless iphone crap doesn't turn out to be true. Like its just pointless, and cables are better.
Just because apple has wireless garbage to sell doesn't mean that wired audio equipment that has better quality should be forgone.
Not to mention, cable charging has absolutely 0 things wrong with it - wireless charging uses cables and still makes it worse.
120 hz is only noticeable while swiping through ui and if you do gaming for everything else there is no difference other than the price you pay to get it, I bought 16pm and just returned it and ordered 16 plus due to the price performance ratio also 16pm is heavy and taller so hard to fit in my pocket
At least 90hz on the base and plus models and maybe a 4000 mAh battery on the base model would have been great. Btw not bad!
Once the nonpro iphones get high refresh rate screen I probably will never buy a pro again. Barely use any of the “pro features”, I just really like having a high refresh rate display.
Apple knows if they add 120hz to normal models everyone will forget the pros
Honestly i dont really care about 120hz, give me any resident evil, change the camera layout instead of the usually square with 3 cameras and a long lasting battery and im sold
Apple should ditch the camera button. Its not usable with a cover, and has bad control. Same with action button, waste of innovation.
Apple fanboys trynna justify apple giving less for more and calling people nutjobs over other people complaining is another level of delusion
Tbh this design is basically a samsung galaxy with one less camera.
Went from a 15 pro max to a 16 and I love it . Only reason I “down graded “ was for a new redesign. I got tired of the basic 3 camera design . I’ve had it since the 11 pro and tired of it .
Can’t do 60 hz unfortunately. Cmon Apple give us 120 hz on the non pro phones!
i remember obsessing over kyles video when the iphone 15 came out.
I can get a like new 15pm that's like similar price of the regular 16. But I might get 16 pro.
Does change in power in chipsets matter anymore? Even iPhone 12 can withstand any day to day operations.
apple will never ship base iphone with 120hz since they have decided to call it pro motion it will never ever apppear on base phone this is true for all apple products no feature marketed as pro has ever appeared on a base product before
I feel like most of us get excited about the coolest and newest features only to play with it in the beginning and don't really incorporate it in our daily lives
Nice balanced review. Can you share all of the games from the video?
I got a 14….will it make sense me upgrading to 16?
If the non-pro had Log recording then I'd strongly consider it. Till then it's not even an option for me!
Cool video, but where's that shirt from? Looks super comfy 👀
Gotta say, your cinematography is beautifully crafted ❤
Thanks for the review Kyle. That new camera control is an appealing new feature.
Even the pixel 8Aa has 120 and it's 499.
LOL.
I can tell you that when I worked at the Apple store less than 1% of customers even knew what refresh rate is nor could they tell me which phone had it by looking at it. The fact is the Pro phones rarely run at more than 60fps. Most of the time they a re running at 60fps or lower. Also, all these videos show the difference in slow motion because otherwise you would not even notice it. Unless you play games you really won't miss it.
I have been pondering for a long time weather to get the 16 or 16 pro, searching through endless videos to get to a conclusion. this comment may well have solidified my decision, the only reason i would have gone for the pro this year is because of the 120hz. i am coming from an iPhone 12 mini, and have never had a brand new top of the range phone before, so was really torn. i know i would never use most of the pro features any way. but now i know that about the 60hz that you have explained, i think ill just go for the base model 16 and save myself a couple of hundred £, thank you
120hz eats up battery and makes the phone work harder. 60hz genuinely doesnt look bad, still smooth animations and movement. Is their a clear difference? For sure but at the cost of battery life and a few hundred more dollars, no thanks
Samsung galaxy has better battery life ay 120hz. So how does that work?