im just a simple man and this is way beyond my intelligence but i love watching you explain the theory's you have while showing the results. keep up the good work my friend you inspire me too think. you are a professor of your own university! A+
Today I don't say "hi friend" , but "hi my brother". I don't know exactly what implies in english, but here in Spain it means an UPPER level of bond. Your story touched me. I know zero about chemist, physics, etc. No matters. You inspire better and more important things aside that stuff. Keep on your way. Thanks to be there. Btw: yeah: "beeing right make people hate you" , and "negative people have a problem for every solution" XD
The burner has only one small flaw. And that's because it gets blocked with carbon after a fairly short time. I see that as a pretty big problem. Those who claim that it's not hydrogen are going to be pissed off.
Hello Friend , in practice the carbon will be burned out as the burner is shut down air will be added into the red hot chamber burning and maintaining the burn heat . They do this very process in regenerative hydrogen producers used by the military's for weather balloons . They use 2 chambers for continual gas production .One is in a reducing state removing Rust while the other is in an oxidizing state making h 2 gas from red hot iron and steam
@@NOBOX7you can probably 3d print 2 gas circuits in the same burner. Oxidize one at the same time that the other one is cracking. Then switch them back and forth and never have carbon buildup.
When you have time you should experiment with preheating air. With a giant preheater that has all of the flame go directly thru it I am melting the surface of silicon carbide crucibles using waste oil. It also melts ceramic stove glass. Its quite bulky, but works good for certain applications
What about insulating the outer section of the chamber? I know it was glowing red on the previous burner. Might keep a little heat in the unit. Also what about some fins inside the burner to absorb and transfer some additional heat to the chamber? Might also give some IR radiation as well? Also re inconel can you buy sheet and roll and weld it? Might be cheaper. I have seen this done for some exhaust manifolds.
It may be quite a stupid idea, but what if you make the counter flow tubing from a standard steel but coated, in appropriate way, with the thermal paste you have created. In this way you control the thickness and even you can experiment with several patterns of coating.
@NOBOX7 Love that channel! Been watching for years! You are brilliant. What happens to an intelligent kid with no outlet? Schools are there do dumb people down and stop them from asking why? I'm glad to see the programming did not work on you. You are a motivated freethinker. It's refreshing and always interesting.
Might get better results by forming the chamber into a rocket engine shape, but not at all sure lol just a thought. I like your style, everyone calls the inventors crazy until they succeed. Also i realize that getting 3-D metal printed parts isn't easy or cheap
For the record, I dug story time. Thank you. If I didn't have surfing as a teenager I might have got locked up too. So much buzz involved but after 4 hours of paddling getting pounded by big waves, and up to 4 hours of driving per day (rallying gravel roads for some of the way), you are so spent, one beer and zzzzzz. Chilled unit. But re this cracking business, what if you had co-flow and counter-flow in the same burner? Like a double layer cracking chamber. Or a longer cracking tube, along with forcing a spiral somehow. And alternatively, how hot is your HHO flame on that type S thermocouple? Because GE E T fuel reformers crack any hydrocarbon into H. Even crude oil and seawater will crack. The book of G E E T can be easily found online and has complete instructions. Imagine having cheap H on demand? Vacuum and heat exchange is required to produce the effect. Usually with an adapted ICE engine but could be made in other ways. i.e. exhaust from furnaces; tesla turbines to pull the vacuum.
Storytime was great.... Explains a few things 😀👍 Cool design. Was thinking it would be nice to make inner and outer tubes so they can slide apart for cleaning.... just the sealing is the problem.... maybe the carbon would help seal the 2 joints. If it was machined .
Hello friend Im thinking about doing a burn out cycle at teh end of each run , just pumping air into the red hot pyrolyzer chamber should start a self sustaining cook off . Carbon is very hard to burn despite popular belief . I triedto burn a piece with a lighter and it wont stay lit
Dear what if you place the inner tube with little thicker to avoid melting. Yes you did it but what I saw was that it was straight tube shape what if you give some conical shape something like making jet effects I think it will get heated enough and will not melt. This is just idea you may disagree or you may have already done it maybe I missed that. But keep it don't get disappointed if you fail. I believe it wants to be successful we should fail first Regards
A monoatomic atom [any gas or solid] is called a 'singlet'. Some singlets will exist in this reaction. When singlet hydrogen reacts, it does release more heat energy. The only problem is, that over time, solid carbon [coke] builds up inside the system and has to be cleaned out. Also, mathematically, while there is more heat coming out of your burner, a lot of energy is being lost/wasted because it is not being burned. Therefore, its a trade-off between concentrated heat energy, and total gross energy.
Can you explain the chemical reaction of adding water to an oil flame? I have always wondered if it was a hydrogen flame, but now I believe it is probably just flash steam.
If you could find a way to use HHO gas without preignition it will give you the hottest flame as that gas comes with all the oxygen it needs for complete combustion.
I was thinking that also.. takes quite a big unit to make enough gas. But actually not that expensive to buy, the Severs youtube channel demos the units they sell out of Belarus. Quite a big flame for only a couple of grand. I totally trust that operator. Genuine good dude and clever. I burnt the plates on my last big HHO electrolizer and those Severs units are on my wishlist. But bro here is in the business of selling burners, not HHO units.
@@waynoswaynos Ah ok, seems he's after heat though so that would be an excellent choice, I wonder if the energy cost in electricity is higher than the gas cost, or if it's lower....
@@bogganalseryd2324 I recall $12 worth of liquid propane in the first successful experiment but he didn't say how many grams were consumed. One of the Severs HHO units makes 650 litres per hour of gas at 2.4 kW. But you'd need to melt 336g of drill bits with both methods side by side to really know. My money would be on the HHO. It doesn't have the endothermic hydrocarbon cracking issue cooling the flame we learned about in this video for one. And for two it burns pure oxygen with the monatomic H. A torch and a gas bottle certainly have lower start up costs. If I had $3K in an HHO system it would take me 90 (in my country) bottles of liquid propane to catch up if the torch cost $300. But I could do more stuff with HHO IMO.
@@waynoswaynos yeah I agree, it probably won't be on an order of magnitude cheaper but as long as it is a bit cheaper it could be worth it, especially if you can build the hho generator yourself, maybe even from parts you have laying around.
@@bogganalseryd2324 Depends on how you value your time, brother. I literally spent months designing and fabricating a 128-plate wet-cell electrolyser on 230VAC and 3kw (I'm in NZ), designing and building the entire system, housing, electronics, plumbing. There were several iterations as each weak point failed and required more thought and rebuilding. Making something that can be taken apart again many times and still hold pressure and not break is also an art, if this is not your field of expertise, will be a challenge. My budget was fairly tight but after maybe a year of tinkering with this in my spare time, I have something that is presently broken. And, it cost me way more than if I had just bought one outright from overseas! I'm not lamenting this too much because I learnt so many amazing new life skills (and I love designing and inventing). But Seriously, buy one off the shelf! Take it apart and do some reverse engineering if you need to, and save yourself a lot of time. Find the Eagle Research channel here on youtube and look at the health benefits of HHO. Its not just for melting stuff. Also, Hydrogen embrittlement may be a thing if cutting, welding or brazing steel with HHO. Weakening parts and potentially making them unsafe. Confirmation required here.
Inconnel is what you want to look for it's perfect stuff for flame submerged situations when you don't want oxygen and hydrogen destroying your part over time.
I don't think you're stupid. I actually think your burner is very creative, but i think you would get better performance from a perfectly tuned propane flame in a more insulated refractory combustion chamber vs the regen cooled cracker thermally conductive one
Respectfully, you haven't been stupid since no matter how young you haven't learned what life is, you learn the most from mistakes, then there are those who make stupid mistakes in others but you learn from it :O)
So true about mistakes , in succes you may be an inch from destruction and never no it but in the midst of failure its crystal clear what will or wont work
Letting ones expression out does not qualify one as being a JERK NOBOX7... What is your view of using INCONEL metal for burner material. ??? Good luck fella too. vf
@@NOBOX7 From what I know, INCONEL is the GOLDEN STANDARD for high heat. Most internals of jet engines use the material. The trick they use to keep things from melting is the coatings. Believe it or not, that is what they use NOBOX7. I would bet that this is the trick you are looking for your burners to reflect that immense heat. Good luck fella. Peace vf
Build your own printer with mig welder in sealed cabinet there's some very exotic wires for mig !!! If you can find who actually buys that high $ tubing then there's bound to be scrap !!!
you need to dumpster dive at elons. he wastes inconel at galactic rates but, seriously you talk truth. or we are both crazy either way i appreciate our 1st amendment. go USA
A++ God bless . i love story time i get it with the adults being drones lemmings its a mess man 1000 wonder more of us were not in your situation .yea i hope kim clement was right on what he was you know the hypnotic novermber and joy christmas one they play on his channel
Hey Brother your comment about Kim elevated you in my world . Even if he isnt real the fact you are looking for the truth is of a higher order of existent to me . Thanks for saying that
You kept your wild energy but now you use it more wisely. Like your videos.
im just a simple man and this is way beyond my intelligence but i love watching you explain the theory's you have while showing the results. keep up the good work my friend you inspire me too think. you are a professor of your own university! A+
White lab coat and a bowtie will solve all naysayer problems... story time was great, we all learn from making mistakes.
Don’t need a hydrogen torch but in here for your chaotic energy. Also more stories please like the prison thing.
Today I don't say "hi friend" , but "hi my brother". I don't know exactly what implies in english, but here in Spain it means an UPPER level of bond. Your story touched me. I know zero about chemist, physics, etc. No matters. You inspire better and more important things aside that stuff. Keep on your way. Thanks to be there.
Btw: yeah: "beeing right make people hate you" , and "negative people have a problem for every solution" XD
Hey man. Arrogance goes around but you aren't one that's for sure! You're a legend with this, keep it up
"They eventually got a sharp knife from maintenance"
That's some kind of comedy in itself.
Man so greatfull to learn from nobox. Thank you.. my gold smelting hard rock been more efficient effective effortless with this man in ur corner
The burner has only one small flaw. And that's because it gets blocked with carbon after a fairly short time. I see that as a pretty big problem. Those who claim that it's not hydrogen are going to be pissed off.
Hello Friend , in practice the carbon will be burned out as the burner is shut down air will be added into the red hot chamber burning and maintaining the burn heat . They do this very process in regenerative hydrogen producers used by the military's for weather balloons . They use 2 chambers for continual gas production .One is in a reducing state removing Rust while the other is in an oxidizing state making h 2 gas from red hot iron and steam
@@NOBOX7 That sounds interesting. I'm already looking forward to the next video.👍
@@NOBOX7you can probably 3d print 2 gas circuits in the same burner. Oxidize one at the same time that the other one is cracking. Then switch them back and forth and never have carbon buildup.
When you have time you should experiment with preheating air. With a giant preheater that has all of the flame go directly thru it I am melting the surface of silicon carbide crucibles using waste oil. It also melts ceramic stove glass. Its quite bulky, but works good for certain applications
What about insulating the outer section of the chamber? I know it was glowing red on the previous burner. Might keep a little heat in the unit. Also what about some fins inside the burner to absorb and transfer some additional heat to the chamber? Might also give some IR radiation as well?
Also re inconel can you buy sheet and roll and weld it? Might be cheaper. I have seen this done for some exhaust manifolds.
Keep doing what you man, great story man.
Love your story time!! Don’t ever,EVER LET anyone slow you or you’re working down brother!!! We got your back!!❤🙏🏻💪🏼🔥🔥🔥🚀
Mądry człowiekiem jesteś .
It may be quite a stupid idea, but what if you make the counter flow tubing from a standard steel but coated, in appropriate way, with the thermal paste you have created. In this way you control the thickness and even you can experiment with several patterns of coating.
What you need is a visible light spectra of the flame, cant argue with line emission spectra.
you are on point bro
@NOBOX7 Love that channel! Been watching for years! You are brilliant. What happens to an intelligent kid with no outlet? Schools are there do dumb people down and stop them from asking why? I'm glad to see the programming did not work on you. You are a motivated freethinker. It's refreshing and always interesting.
Might get better results by forming the chamber into a rocket engine shape, but not at all sure lol just a thought. I like your style, everyone calls the inventors crazy until they succeed. Also i realize that getting 3-D metal printed parts isn't easy or cheap
For the record, I dug story time. Thank you. If I didn't have surfing as a teenager I might have got locked up too. So much buzz involved but after 4 hours of paddling getting pounded by big waves, and up to 4 hours of driving per day (rallying gravel roads for some of the way), you are so spent, one beer and zzzzzz. Chilled unit. But re this cracking business, what if you had co-flow and counter-flow in the same burner? Like a double layer cracking chamber. Or a longer cracking tube, along with forcing a spiral somehow.
And alternatively, how hot is your HHO flame on that type S thermocouple? Because GE E T fuel reformers crack any hydrocarbon into H. Even crude oil and seawater will crack. The book of G E E T can be easily found online and has complete instructions. Imagine having cheap H on demand? Vacuum and heat exchange is required to produce the effect. Usually with an adapted ICE engine but could be made in other ways. i.e. exhaust from furnaces; tesla turbines to pull the vacuum.
Thanks for the feedback friend.
Hey thats a great idea , we have never tested the hho flame on the S type thermo
Storytime was great....
Explains a few things 😀👍
Cool design.
Was thinking it would be nice to make inner and outer tubes so they can slide apart for cleaning.... just the sealing is the problem.... maybe the carbon would help seal the 2 joints. If it was machined .
Hello friend
Im thinking about doing a burn out cycle at teh end of each run , just pumping air into the red hot pyrolyzer chamber should start a self sustaining cook off . Carbon is very hard to burn despite popular belief . I triedto burn a piece with a lighter and it wont stay lit
Dear what if you place the inner tube with little thicker to avoid melting. Yes you did it but what I saw was that it was straight tube shape what if you give some conical shape something like making jet effects I think it will get heated enough and will not melt. This is just idea you may disagree or you may have already done it maybe I missed that.
But keep it don't get disappointed if you fail. I believe it wants to be successful we should fail first
Regards
A monoatomic atom [any gas or solid] is called a 'singlet'.
Some singlets will exist in this reaction.
When singlet hydrogen reacts, it does release more heat energy.
The only problem is, that over time, solid carbon [coke] builds up inside the system and has to be cleaned out.
Also, mathematically, while there is more heat coming out of your burner, a lot of energy is being lost/wasted because it is not being burned.
Therefore, its a trade-off between concentrated heat energy, and total gross energy.
Can you explain the chemical reaction of adding water to an oil flame? I have always wondered if it was a hydrogen flame, but now I believe it is probably just flash steam.
McMaster Carr sells custom lengths of all sorts of exotics.
If you could find a way to use HHO gas without preignition it will give you the hottest flame as that gas comes with all the oxygen it needs for complete combustion.
How about graphite which is used in amateur rocket motors.
So the flame temp is so hot the hydrogen is emitting in the paschen series? That's quite hot
Doesn't hho burn even hotter?
I was thinking that also.. takes quite a big unit to make enough gas. But actually not that expensive to buy, the Severs youtube channel demos the units they sell out of Belarus. Quite a big flame for only a couple of grand. I totally trust that operator. Genuine good dude and clever. I burnt the plates on my last big HHO electrolizer and those Severs units are on my wishlist. But bro here is in the business of selling burners, not HHO units.
@@waynoswaynos Ah ok, seems he's after heat though so that would be an excellent choice, I wonder if the energy cost in electricity is higher than the gas cost, or if it's lower....
@@bogganalseryd2324 I recall $12 worth of liquid propane in the first successful experiment but he didn't say how many grams were consumed. One of the Severs HHO units makes 650 litres per hour of gas at 2.4 kW. But you'd need to melt 336g of drill bits with both methods side by side to really know. My money would be on the HHO. It doesn't have the endothermic hydrocarbon cracking issue cooling the flame we learned about in this video for one. And for two it burns pure oxygen with the monatomic H.
A torch and a gas bottle certainly have lower start up costs. If I had $3K in an HHO system it would take me 90 (in my country) bottles of liquid propane to catch up if the torch cost $300. But I could do more stuff with HHO IMO.
@@waynoswaynos yeah I agree, it probably won't be on an order of magnitude cheaper but as long as it is a bit cheaper it could be worth it, especially if you can build the hho generator yourself, maybe even from parts you have laying around.
@@bogganalseryd2324 Depends on how you value your time, brother. I literally spent months designing and fabricating a 128-plate wet-cell electrolyser on 230VAC and 3kw (I'm in NZ), designing and building the entire system, housing, electronics, plumbing. There were several iterations as each weak point failed and required more thought and rebuilding.
Making something that can be taken apart again many times and still hold pressure and not break is also an art, if this is not your field of expertise, will be a challenge. My budget was fairly tight but after maybe a year of tinkering with this in my spare time, I have something that is presently broken. And, it cost me way more than if I had just bought one outright from overseas!
I'm not lamenting this too much because I learnt so many amazing new life skills (and I love designing and inventing). But Seriously, buy one off the shelf! Take it apart and do some reverse engineering if you need to, and save yourself a lot of time. Find the Eagle Research channel here on youtube and look at the health benefits of HHO. Its not just for melting stuff.
Also, Hydrogen embrittlement may be a thing if cutting, welding or brazing steel with HHO. Weakening parts and potentially making them unsafe. Confirmation required here.
what is the inco nail the metal you need do you know what it is called in the eu is the tungsten tube you are missing
Inconnel is what you want to look for it's perfect stuff for flame submerged situations when you don't want oxygen and hydrogen destroying your part over time.
Whole Lotta hydrogen in those carbons
Awesome job man forget about the shit talker keyboard warriors from a fellow fabricator !!🤘🏻
I don't think you're stupid. I actually think your burner is very creative, but i think you would get better performance from a perfectly tuned propane flame in a more insulated refractory combustion chamber vs the regen cooled cracker thermally conductive one
Yes tuning is an issue , the slightest bit of extra air can cool the flame
Respectfully, you haven't been stupid since no matter how young you haven't learned what life is, you learn the most from mistakes, then there are those who make stupid mistakes in others but you learn from it :O)
So true about mistakes , in succes you may be an inch from destruction and never no it but in the midst of failure its crystal clear what will or wont work
Letting ones expression out does not qualify one as being a JERK NOBOX7...
What is your view of using INCONEL metal for burner material. ??? Good luck fella too. vf
I was looking realy hard at Inconlel 600
@@NOBOX7 From what I know, INCONEL is the GOLDEN STANDARD for high heat. Most internals of jet engines use the material. The trick they use to keep things from melting is the coatings. Believe it or not, that is what they use NOBOX7. I would bet that this is the trick you are looking for your burners to reflect that immense heat.
Good luck fella. Peace vf
Build your own printer with mig welder in sealed cabinet there's some very exotic wires for mig !!!
If you can find who actually buys that high $ tubing then there's bound to be scrap !!!
Do you mean thesis?
Oh nvm
you need to dumpster dive at elons. he wastes inconel at galactic rates but, seriously you talk truth. or we are both crazy either way i appreciate our 1st amendment. go USA
A++ God bless . i love story time i get it with the adults being drones lemmings its a mess man 1000 wonder more of us were not in your situation .yea i hope kim clement was right on what he was you know the hypnotic novermber and joy christmas one they play on his channel
Hey Brother your comment about Kim elevated you in my world . Even if he isnt real the fact you are looking for the truth is of a higher order of existent to me . Thanks for saying that
I think kim was a real profit things he said are coming true , alot of people say he isnt because he died . Ive seen alsmost all of his stuff