I'm so glad I found this. I was seeking for dps edits, but youtube recommended this video. I'm only 14, and even though my future still very unclear to me, I've been having those thoughts about becoming a teacher someday. A place where I can be passionate about what I love, and inspire people. And if I do, I'll take this advices by heart. Thank you :))
Aw, what a sweet comment to receive! I do hope you'll keep it in mind as you grow and develop. It speaks highly of your maturity that you're already thinking about these things!
For your interest in the DPS, I'd highly suggest checking out a book by the guy who has been called the Thoreau of music writing. Victor Wooten and his book The Music Lesson. much respect on your journey!
Mr. Keating isn't only a brilliant teacher, he also is a dad and a friend for his students. This couldn't be learnd... this is the personality... he lives and loves teaching. And he is aware, he can!❤🎉
Mark, I want to offer my personal and professional thanks for this excellent video and for your wonderful treatment of some of my thoughts about education. I’ve been sharing the video with my colleagues, and one of them just sent me this note: "What a brilliant treatise re. your work on teaching. He nailed it! I am excited to use this video in my work with teachers and administrators. Thank you so much for sharing with us!” I’m sure there will be more notes along these lines. With real gratitude and all good wishes for your continuing work as a dedicated teacher and creative moonlighter! -- Parker
Wow! Needless to say, I feel so blessed and affirmed to hear from you, Parker! I admit I was hoping that the video would somehow make its way to you. Thank you for your kind words, and of course, thank you for your wisdom and work.
Wow!. That was really good. I had never heard of Parker Palmer but I think I lived his ideas intuitively. I was a trainer of critical thinking, structured analysis, writing and briefing for military intelligence for US, NATO, and allied forces for decades. And I thrived on being in the classroom. Even though I earned an MS.Ed, learned more about teaching by listening to the students than my professors; I learned as much from them as they did from me. My classes were always full of many nationalities and languages, males and females, civilians and military, junior troops to the highest ranking officers and yet, despite all the fears of looking 'wrong' or being embarrassed, we had FUN in the classroom. I always believed that the more noise in the classroom (students talking and sharing) the more learning was actually happening. The less noise (just a talking head at the front; me) the least amount of learning was happening. It is my greatest personal achievement that many students told me I had changed their lives. I always told them, no, you changed it. I just helped you get there. On a cinematic note, notice in the film that in his most earnest moments, he takes a knee so that the students look down on him, not the other way around. Just that perspective change empowers students. Nobody likes to be towered over and looked down upon from on high. I always taught from the side or the back of the classroom as much as from the front. It kept them looking around and did not allow any students to 'hide' in the anonymity of the back row. Thanks for this essay. It assures me that my life's work was well lived.
This video is 15 minutes long, but I watched it for more than 4 hours. Hundreds of thoughts, enlightenments, conclusions made up a mini-book that I will carry with me. What a strange responsibility that with one film you can change someone's life path. Thank you. I am a student of one of the existing John Keatings. I know i will never be able to fully express my gratitude for his efforts.
Sounds like you had one hell of a teacher. My best teacher was Mr. Keating. Pretty much had to go it alone after seeing this and realizing why I didn't like my schools and why I learnt so much better on my own than with them. Much respect on your video. The DPS lives on FOREVER!!!
Watching this, I thought about a story from another youtuber who recalled his time in highschool, and how one kid had mentioned being so excited to leave school so that he could finally stop learning. The teacher stopped him right there and said approximately "You do not hate learning, learning is amazing. You hate how schools teach you in such an awful manner, and I apologize for it, but never say that you hate learning." That phrase sticks with me so heavily because of the fact that I genuinely felt the same way, even refusing to pick up hobbies due to fear of failure, despite the fact that no one would see me fail and that failing itself is truly just learning in action. I wish more classrooms would embrace the "You got the question wrong, you can try again!" mindset, instead of shaming the student. I'm only recently 20 now, out of highschool for 2 years, but I've had a positive growth mindset for most of that time and it feels like a self evident truth that the moment I am able to step out of the confinement of (mostly) shaming teachers/system, I am able to flourish beyond what I previously thought possible. I now accept failure in my day to day life as a friend in learning. Also really grand breakdown of Dead Poets Society, although I've never seen it before your pull apart of it, it has me super curious.
I'm a current education student and this video was fantastic! Mr Keating has such an interesting classroom because his pedagogy reinforces the importance of relationships between the student and teacher, even if romnticized. Lovely movie and the comparisons with Palmer were great. I've added Palmer's books to my reading list and I hope to read them soon!
Awesome video Mr. Mark! I'd never thought about why Mr. Keating's class was so compelling: how even though the details are romanticised, Mr. Keating's foundation and pedagogical philosophy are very real. The idea of molding the classroom into an open community that still has clear influences in traditional pedagogy is extremely fascinating and you articulated that point very well!
Thank you for doing this video. I will never forget my secondary school's range of teachers and why Dead Poets Society resonates with me as much as it does. My first Science (Double) teacher was the science version of Mr. Keating. He was passionate, energetic, and he wanted us to have the same passion and love for his subject that he did. It didn't matter that he had problems writing (he was a teacher who owned his spelling and grammar difficulties) or that the subject didn't appeal to all of us, only that we students had to try our best. We also had a History teacher who did the same - the disciplinarian you always wanted to make proud and never disappointed - and even an English teacher - who acted as an adult friend. A guiding hand into the subject but who could "shoot the shit" with you after the bell and listen to your personal ramblings while never making it feel like you were wasting his time. Unfortunately, they either got moved on (Science), died (History), or we were put with another teacher in the following years (English). To say there was a sharp change would be an understatement. Science became something that was driven into our skulls and if we didn't understand something, that was our fault; English became dry reading and solo deconstruction of work without any teacher involvement, passion, or aid; and History turned into a "read this book for the year" chore that ruined our GCSE's because said book didn't have 75% of the subject matter on the exam. A Maths had literally been distilled into a formula for what level of work each student was supposed to be taught, regardless of their actual ability level. So yes, I ran the range of teachers those five years, and could not agree more with Palmer on his points. To find this video recommended to me after I rewatched an 'O Captain, My Captain' homage to Robin, and it be done by a teacher... I wanted to say thank you. Thank you for still being the type of teacher who had me fall in love with learning.
Thank you for this wonderful video -- I'm glad I found this! I'm a current high school senior who intends to major in English to become an English teacher. This video echoes my sentiments towards teaching exactly! I was fortunate to have a teacher like Mr. Keating -- one who inspired and supported me to write & create my own stories/poetry. I aspire to be a teacher just like her. I found a home within her classroom and I sincerely hope my future students find a home within mine.
Aw, thanks so much for sharing that! So glad the video was helpful to you. Sounds like an awesome teacher! I became a teacher because of some awesome teachers in my life too :)
A thought-provoking, gentle video. I’ve never heard of Palmer, but some of his ideas here warrant more digging. I particularly appreciated the second chapter in your video, as well as the discussion of the significance of Keating’s first act being to take the students outside the boundaries of what they’re accustomed to, literally and so figuratively. Good stuff. I’m no longer an English teacher myself - gave that up just under a decade ago - but I always have my hand in (I run a Zoom film club ever Wednesday night and have since the pandemic began) and treasure the friendships I’ve kept with certain teachers of mine and certain students I’ve had. For future reference: Buechner’s name is pronounced “beek-ner.” I used to mispronounce it in the same way as you, so don’t sweat it.
Loved this video. I think my best teachers are the ones that know how to make school work fun. I'll always remember Mrs. Cooper my science teacher. We got to watch movies with science in it. We did fun projects. Oh and had a fantastic English teacher.
Thank you for this video. As in the years that followed the release of Dead Poets Society, some reviews questioned the teaching methods of Keating, contradicting the aim of the teaching of humanities, it is interesting to have an argumented alternative point of view, supported by the theories of Mr Palmer. Additionally, your video highlights the level of care and attention that Peter Weir placed in his direction, nuancing the impact of Keating on his students: Rather than idolizing a single figure, punctuating his arch with random litterary quotes, the screenplay shows how Keating reveals the inner wealth of each student, allows them to extract a buried richness, hence, enables them to face learning with stronger tools. Afterall, Keating is still conscious of the limits allowed by the rigidity of Welton. And the students (see Todd, standing on his table but delimited by the frames of a student's legs - hence, framed himself in some ways) will need to continue their curriculum in a traditional institution. But the communicative passion from Keating, the capacity to take a step back, the consciousness of their conviction, will stay with them forever. Great work!
Wonder how applicable your theory is to the class in The Blackboard Jungle instead of DPS. Which of the two schools presented would you call more real? Then we can measure the greatness of a teacher.
An interesting question! It's hard to measure the "realness" of schools, of course, but I've found that students across wildly different contexts are still quite similar.
I'm so glad I found this. I was seeking for dps edits, but youtube recommended this video. I'm only 14, and even though my future still very unclear to me, I've been having those thoughts about becoming a teacher someday. A place where I can be passionate about what I love, and inspire people. And if I do, I'll take this advices by heart. Thank you :))
Aw, what a sweet comment to receive! I do hope you'll keep it in mind as you grow and develop. It speaks highly of your maturity that you're already thinking about these things!
We need many good teachers who truly love teaching, especially for young students.
For your interest in the DPS, I'd highly suggest checking out a book by the guy who has been called the Thoreau of music writing. Victor Wooten and his book The Music Lesson. much respect on your journey!
This man can only speak facts, 👏🏻
Mr. Keating isn't only a brilliant teacher, he also is a dad and a friend for his students. This couldn't be learnd... this is the personality... he lives and loves teaching. And he is aware, he can!❤🎉
We need teachers like Keating. I don’t even know the first thing about poetry, and even Keating makes me wanna learn about it.
Outstanding. It's an honor to work with you, Mark.
Likewise, brother!! :)
Mark, I want to offer my personal and professional thanks for this excellent video and for your wonderful treatment of some of my thoughts about education. I’ve been sharing the video with my colleagues, and one of them just sent me this note: "What a brilliant treatise re. your work on teaching. He nailed it! I am excited to use this video in my work with teachers and administrators. Thank you so much for sharing with us!” I’m sure there will be more notes along these lines. With real gratitude and all good wishes for your continuing work as a dedicated teacher and creative moonlighter! -- Parker
Wow! Needless to say, I feel so blessed and affirmed to hear from you, Parker! I admit I was hoping that the video would somehow make its way to you. Thank you for your kind words, and of course, thank you for your wisdom and work.
Wonderful video.
Wow!. That was really good. I had never heard of Parker Palmer but I think I lived his ideas intuitively. I was a trainer of critical thinking, structured analysis, writing and briefing for military intelligence for US, NATO, and allied forces for decades. And I thrived on being in the classroom. Even though I earned an MS.Ed, learned more about teaching by listening to the students than my professors; I learned as much from them as they did from me. My classes were always full of many nationalities and languages, males and females, civilians and military, junior troops to the highest ranking officers and yet, despite all the fears of looking 'wrong' or being embarrassed, we had FUN in the classroom. I always believed that the more noise in the classroom (students talking and sharing) the more learning was actually happening. The less noise (just a talking head at the front; me) the least amount of learning was happening. It is my greatest personal achievement that many students told me I had changed their lives. I always told them, no, you changed it. I just helped you get there. On a cinematic note, notice in the film that in his most earnest moments, he takes a knee so that the students look down on him, not the other way around. Just that perspective change empowers students. Nobody likes to be towered over and looked down upon from on high. I always taught from the side or the back of the classroom as much as from the front. It kept them looking around and did not allow any students to 'hide' in the anonymity of the back row. Thanks for this essay. It assures me that my life's work was well lived.
Thanks for this thoughtful comment! It's great to hear from a kindred teacher spirit. So glad you enjoyed the video!
Have you ever heard of John Taylor Gatto?
Now that was a teacher.
This video is 15 minutes long, but I watched it for more than 4 hours. Hundreds of thoughts, enlightenments, conclusions made up a mini-book that I will carry with me. What a strange responsibility that with one film you can change someone's life path. Thank you.
I am a student of one of the existing John Keatings. I know i will never be able to fully express my gratitude for his efforts.
Wow, thanks for sharing!! So sweet to hear it resonated so much :)
Sounds like you had one hell of a teacher. My best teacher was Mr. Keating. Pretty much had to go it alone after seeing this and realizing why I didn't like my schools and why I learnt so much better on my own than with them. Much respect on your video. The DPS lives on FOREVER!!!
Just bought 'The courage to Teach'... looking forward to reading it. Thanks
It's amazing! :)
Watching this, I thought about a story from another youtuber who recalled his time in highschool, and how one kid had mentioned being so excited to leave school so that he could finally stop learning. The teacher stopped him right there and said approximately "You do not hate learning, learning is amazing. You hate how schools teach you in such an awful manner, and I apologize for it, but never say that you hate learning." That phrase sticks with me so heavily because of the fact that I genuinely felt the same way, even refusing to pick up hobbies due to fear of failure, despite the fact that no one would see me fail and that failing itself is truly just learning in action. I wish more classrooms would embrace the "You got the question wrong, you can try again!" mindset, instead of shaming the student. I'm only recently 20 now, out of highschool for 2 years, but I've had a positive growth mindset for most of that time and it feels like a self evident truth that the moment I am able to step out of the confinement of (mostly) shaming teachers/system, I am able to flourish beyond what I previously thought possible. I now accept failure in my day to day life as a friend in learning.
Also really grand breakdown of Dead Poets Society, although I've never seen it before your pull apart of it, it has me super curious.
I'm a current education student and this video was fantastic! Mr Keating has such an interesting classroom because his pedagogy reinforces the importance of relationships between the student and teacher, even if romnticized. Lovely movie and the comparisons with Palmer were great. I've added Palmer's books to my reading list and I hope to read them soon!
Ahh so glad you want to dig into Palmer's stuff! Thanks for the encouragement!
Awesome video Mr. Mark! I'd never thought about why Mr. Keating's class was so compelling: how even though the details are romanticised, Mr. Keating's foundation and pedagogical philosophy are very real. The idea of molding the classroom into an open community that still has clear influences in traditional pedagogy is extremely fascinating and you articulated that point very well!
Aw thanks - that means a lot, Prin! Miss you tons, man!!
Thank you for doing this video.
I will never forget my secondary school's range of teachers and why Dead Poets Society resonates with me as much as it does. My first Science (Double) teacher was the science version of Mr. Keating. He was passionate, energetic, and he wanted us to have the same passion and love for his subject that he did. It didn't matter that he had problems writing (he was a teacher who owned his spelling and grammar difficulties) or that the subject didn't appeal to all of us, only that we students had to try our best. We also had a History teacher who did the same - the disciplinarian you always wanted to make proud and never disappointed - and even an English teacher - who acted as an adult friend. A guiding hand into the subject but who could "shoot the shit" with you after the bell and listen to your personal ramblings while never making it feel like you were wasting his time.
Unfortunately, they either got moved on (Science), died (History), or we were put with another teacher in the following years (English). To say there was a sharp change would be an understatement. Science became something that was driven into our skulls and if we didn't understand something, that was our fault; English became dry reading and solo deconstruction of work without any teacher involvement, passion, or aid; and History turned into a "read this book for the year" chore that ruined our GCSE's because said book didn't have 75% of the subject matter on the exam. A Maths had literally been distilled into a formula for what level of work each student was supposed to be taught, regardless of their actual ability level.
So yes, I ran the range of teachers those five years, and could not agree more with Palmer on his points. To find this video recommended to me after I rewatched an 'O Captain, My Captain' homage to Robin, and it be done by a teacher... I wanted to say thank you. Thank you for still being the type of teacher who had me fall in love with learning.
Such a thoughtful comment -- so glad you were blessed by the video!
Thank you for this wonderful video -- I'm glad I found this! I'm a current high school senior who intends to major in English to become an English teacher. This video echoes my sentiments towards teaching exactly! I was fortunate to have a teacher like Mr. Keating -- one who inspired and supported me to write & create my own stories/poetry. I aspire to be a teacher just like her. I found a home within her classroom and I sincerely hope my future students find a home within mine.
Aw, thanks so much for sharing that! So glad the video was helpful to you. Sounds like an awesome teacher! I became a teacher because of some awesome teachers in my life too :)
A thought-provoking, gentle video. I’ve never heard of Palmer, but some of his ideas here warrant more digging. I particularly appreciated the second chapter in your video, as well as the discussion of the significance of Keating’s first act being to take the students outside the boundaries of what they’re accustomed to, literally and so figuratively. Good stuff. I’m no longer an English teacher myself - gave that up just under a decade ago - but I always have my hand in (I run a Zoom film club ever Wednesday night and have since the pandemic began) and treasure the friendships I’ve kept with certain teachers of mine and certain students I’ve had. For future reference: Buechner’s name is pronounced “beek-ner.” I used to mispronounce it in the same way as you, so don’t sweat it.
Thanks for the thoughtful comment (and helpful advice!). So glad you enjoyed it.
Excellent video Mr. Mark! This is definitely my favorite you've created!
Aw thanks, Austin! Missing you!!
What I found funny was when he drew the chart for poetry, and even in the chart itself. The letters BS are right in the middle
Loved this video. I think my best teachers are the ones that know how to make school work fun. I'll always remember Mrs. Cooper my science teacher. We got to watch movies with science in it. We did fun projects. Oh and had a fantastic English teacher.
Thank you for this video. As in the years that followed the release of Dead Poets Society, some reviews questioned the teaching methods of Keating, contradicting the aim of the teaching of humanities, it is interesting to have an argumented alternative point of view, supported by the theories of Mr Palmer. Additionally, your video highlights the level of care and attention that Peter Weir placed in his direction, nuancing the impact of Keating on his students: Rather than idolizing a single figure, punctuating his arch with random litterary quotes, the screenplay shows how Keating reveals the inner wealth of each student, allows them to extract a buried richness, hence, enables them to face learning with stronger tools. Afterall, Keating is still conscious of the limits allowed by the rigidity of Welton. And the students (see Todd, standing on his table but delimited by the frames of a student's legs - hence, framed himself in some ways) will need to continue their curriculum in a traditional institution. But the communicative passion from Keating, the capacity to take a step back, the consciousness of their conviction, will stay with them forever. Great work!
Very well said! 😁
Brilliant. Inspirational. True. Congrats!
Thanks, my friend!!
"Understanding What Makes A Great Teacher"
By: J. Evans Pritchard, Ph.D.
Just saw your Hamilton lyrics video, which was honestly quite well made! Will you do a second part anytime soon? Would love to see that! ^^
Brilliant. Thank you for making these connections and re-examining how and why I went into teaching.
Oustanding video.
I'm using this as a reference for my paper now. Peer Appraisal and Peer Review while using Dead Poets Society because I use pop-culture references.
Tremendous video thank you so much. ❤
Great video! keep up the good work
Great!
this video is so good, keep it up man 🙆🌟
A heart for teaching
Brilliant 👍👍👍
Wonder how applicable your theory is to the class in The Blackboard Jungle instead of DPS. Which of the two schools presented would you call more real? Then we can measure the greatness of a teacher.
An interesting question! It's hard to measure the "realness" of schools, of course, but I've found that students across wildly different contexts are still quite similar.
hamilton rhymes taken down?
It's back up :)
A great teacher does not
commit suicide later in life.
Huh what??? Are you talking about the author?
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@@judithvangelder5795 Robin Williams was not a teacher.
serious skill issue