Thanks! I greatly appreciate it. The break was nice and I spent some time working with another individual on a pretty big project (video of that project hopefully coming soon!). I truly do appreciate the comment and kind words. Thanks again!
I haven't tried the line-in option yet, but am also interested in possibly trying on of those line-in to I2S boards to see how the LEDs react. Thanks for watching... and for the comment!
Great to see another video today glad that you survived the vacation. I would have guessed the digital mic to be the best when you began but I was surprised how far apart they were.
Thanks Rodney! I think you can tweak the analog mic for a particular situation, but as soon as something changes (type/tempo of music, effect, distance, etc.), you have to tweak the mic settings again... and each time thereafter. But with the digital mic, it pretty much works will little-to-no changes to its settings. Glad to be back... and glad to hear from you again!
I use the same digital mic on a few of my led strips after seeing it on one of your previous videos. It works very well. You can adjust the sensitivity to use leds to light up a room when a pin drops if you want to.
Yeah, in some of my older videos, I used the analog MAX9814. But since then, I've discovered the digital mic and how much better it works. So I decided to make this video in the hopes that anyone that might have seen one of my older videos with the analog mic might also stumble across this one and see how much better the digital version can be. Thanks for watching... and thanks for the comment!
Thanks! I haven't tried the line-in option (yet), but I think the easiest way would be to just pick up one of those line-in to I2S adapters. Then it would be wired much like the INMP441. It's something I may take a look at down the road. Thanks for watching... and for the comment!
Thanks for the nice video. Your videos help a lot to get into the topic of WLED! :) Just one thing that I noticed when I use audioreactivity on WLED is that I often have the impression that it lags behind the sound a lot. In your video it also seemed to lag behind the sound a bit. What do you think about that or do you have an idea on how to improve the reactivity?
Yeah... there is (and probably always will be) a very short lag. I don't know if this could ever be precisely in sync as the microphone has to pick up the sound, send it to the ESP which has to process that signal, then send a signal onto the LEDs. This process will always introduce at least a slight delay between what your ears hear and what your eyes see. I haven't tried it, but using the line-in option might reduce this lag slightly. To be honest, when I have rather loud music playing and a lot of different WLED displays reacting, I generally don't really notice the lag unless I'm specifically looking for it. I think the only way to get perfect synchronicity would be with something like the Hue Syncbox, where the signal is received and processed for light output BEFORE it is sent to the actual display that your eyes see.
I guess they are both analog microphones. But using different 'front ends'. Would be interesting to see how they perform when just te microphones are switched?
I'm not sure I follow. The MAX9814 is analog and communicates via an analog pin on the ESP32. But the INMP441 is definitely digital and uses I2S to "talk" to the ESP32. And not sure what you mean by different 'front ends'. Both controllers and the LED displays are identical, and both controllers are using the exact same version of the WLED firmware. The 'front end' is identical for both. The only difference between the two setups are the microphones that are connected to each of the controllers... and of course the microphone configuration in WLED is different for each. Otherwise, it is an apple-to-apple comparison as only the mics are different. Maybe I am misunderstanding to what you are referring as the 'front end'.
@@ResinChemTech Most likely on the 'digital microphone board' there is an old fashion analog microphone. With the 'front end' on the digital board i meant the chip that converts the analog signal from the microphone into a digital signal (A to D converter, ADC) and after that in an I2C data signal. On the 'analog microphone board' most likely there is only an amplifier and the ADC is done in the ESP32. My comment has nothing to do with the WLED processing. Hope this clarify my suggestion.
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Nice comparison.
Welcome back!
Thanks! Good to be back... and good to hear from you!
Hello from Ireland. Good to see you back. Great video as always. Eddie
Thank you! I appreciate it. It was a nice break, but it's good to be back as well.
Hope you had a good break, it's good to see you back!
Thanks! I greatly appreciate it. The break was nice and I spent some time working with another individual on a pretty big project (video of that project hopefully coming soon!).
I truly do appreciate the comment and kind words. Thanks again!
Wow, great video, glad I stayed to the end, I have been wanting to try line-in on one of my projects, thanks for the schematic!
I haven't tried the line-in option yet, but am also interested in possibly trying on of those line-in to I2S boards to see how the LEDs react.
Thanks for watching... and for the comment!
Great to see another video today glad that you survived the vacation. I would have guessed the digital mic to be the best when you began but I was surprised how far apart they were.
Thanks Rodney! I think you can tweak the analog mic for a particular situation, but as soon as something changes (type/tempo of music, effect, distance, etc.), you have to tweak the mic settings again... and each time thereafter. But with the digital mic, it pretty much works will little-to-no changes to its settings.
Glad to be back... and glad to hear from you again!
I use the same digital mic on a few of my led strips after seeing it on one of your previous videos. It works very well. You can adjust the sensitivity to use leds to light up a room when a pin drops if you want to.
Yeah, in some of my older videos, I used the analog MAX9814. But since then, I've discovered the digital mic and how much better it works. So I decided to make this video in the hopes that anyone that might have seen one of my older videos with the analog mic might also stumble across this one and see how much better the digital version can be.
Thanks for watching... and thanks for the comment!
Great video as usual! I would be interested in the line-in solution as well...
Thanks! I haven't tried the line-in option (yet), but I think the easiest way would be to just pick up one of those line-in to I2S adapters. Then it would be wired much like the INMP441. It's something I may take a look at down the road.
Thanks for watching... and for the comment!
Thanks for the nice video. Your videos help a lot to get into the topic of WLED! :) Just one thing that I noticed when I use audioreactivity on WLED is that I often have the impression that it lags behind the sound a lot. In your video it also seemed to lag behind the sound a bit. What do you think about that or do you have an idea on how to improve the reactivity?
Yeah... there is (and probably always will be) a very short lag. I don't know if this could ever be precisely in sync as the microphone has to pick up the sound, send it to the ESP which has to process that signal, then send a signal onto the LEDs. This process will always introduce at least a slight delay between what your ears hear and what your eyes see. I haven't tried it, but using the line-in option might reduce this lag slightly.
To be honest, when I have rather loud music playing and a lot of different WLED displays reacting, I generally don't really notice the lag unless I'm specifically looking for it. I think the only way to get perfect synchronicity would be with something like the Hue Syncbox, where the signal is received and processed for light output BEFORE it is sent to the actual display that your eyes see.
I guess they are both analog microphones. But using different 'front ends'. Would be interesting to see how they perform when just te microphones are switched?
I'm not sure I follow. The MAX9814 is analog and communicates via an analog pin on the ESP32. But the INMP441 is definitely digital and uses I2S to "talk" to the ESP32. And not sure what you mean by different 'front ends'. Both controllers and the LED displays are identical, and both controllers are using the exact same version of the WLED firmware. The 'front end' is identical for both. The only difference between the two setups are the microphones that are connected to each of the controllers... and of course the microphone configuration in WLED is different for each. Otherwise, it is an apple-to-apple comparison as only the mics are different.
Maybe I am misunderstanding to what you are referring as the 'front end'.
@@ResinChemTech Most likely on the 'digital microphone board' there is an old fashion analog microphone. With the 'front end' on the digital board i meant the chip that converts the analog signal from the microphone into a digital signal (A to D converter, ADC) and after that in an I2C data signal. On the 'analog microphone board' most likely there is only an amplifier and the ADC is done in the ESP32. My comment has nothing to do with the WLED processing. Hope this clarify my suggestion.
Sir I make wled project on vehicle, I need an idea 😅 ( on motorcycle) my idea is 3 channel which each channel have some segment, but i still have a problem on setting welcome light