20 kw is about 26 hp, which im also not sure that the stock ultra motor and battery goes over 18kw which would be 24hp, but after a battery you could go way higher. I dont know the stock motor limits though. After a full power train upgrade you can run 40+kw or about 60hp so
Matt check out the dust hightail. It’s more ultra bee sized and good power. Cool people too. I think you’d like it bcs it’s almost like a slightly smaller stark.
I read the Dust won't ship until late 2025. Bummer, but it sounds like it will be well sorted by launch. Almost a perfect bike IMO as it's the size of the Ultra Bee but with updated tech and better specs more similar to a Stark.
Do you think I should sell my 2024 surron for a etm rtr? I like it but I’m only 13 and it’s a little big, and seems like an endless money whole when getting new needed parts, so it’s really hard to pick
take the peak output of motor divided by 750 will give you the horse power of the motor. the 20kw you mentioned would look like 20000 divided by 750 equals 26.67 horse power.
@@motomatt224i was wondering if i should go for the RTR or save a little more for the rawrr mantis x, because i could get double the range and it comes with a horn and a headlight.
Also what’s your thoughts on the dust moto hightail in my opinion it’s Alr it’s heavy and range is 👎 looks kinda like a mini stark tho idk what’s ur thought on it. I remember u talked abt it a while ago in a past vid also they might give u a discount unlike Surron who doesn’t work w anyone
@ ya I totally agree it’s the price and parts ratio for me for 10k! It needs to be a fully upgraded out ultra and wayyy lighter with more range the power is there but everything thing else especially the price it not crazy for electric dirt bikes now a days
Honestly after thinking about it for a bit. I think if you never wanted to hit a full size motocross track or hit massive dirt jumps. That Dust Moto is probably going to be the best bike ever made. Same exact specs to Zays Ultra bee but looks like a stark. I basically described it without realizing it in the video 😂
@@motomatt224 ya but the cost though the ultra only is around the same price because he’s buying better suspension better battery controller etc and replacing the stock parts so in reality it would be a couple grand cheaper if someone made a bike but already upgraded with those parts without the cost of stock parts I have no hate on the dust but the reviews from some of the vids on it already have been ok I think you can’t get much better then a ultra with the chi battery and serrius suspension combo and controller it’s mainly the range is really bad on the dust at 40 hp witch is its max and for a 210 pound bike more hp feels like less power to weight ratio so 40 hp is nessicery but running at that all the time will drain that battery pretty fast all in all it’s not a horrible option but in my personal opinion it’s gonna be the best option for the next couple months but after that I’m sure they’ll either refine it or someone else will come out w something better
that frig woking wooo tha fast my hands got sweaty watching Great vid my G
Ayyy glad ur back and feeling better man 👍
@@MXL_Rides thanks bro! 👊🏻That was a ruff one
@@motomatt224 what happened to you? I'm asking 'cause I fell of an ultra bee and since then I am f scared to jump back on any of these
just bought an RTR with your code ty for the videos
Hell yah! Congrats! 🔥🔥🔥
That RTR is gonna be fun af
I‘m trying to get the road legal stark in 2025 💯
That would be sick
i order mine on monday
Always watch when new vid comes out
Thanks bro! 👊🏻
❤ You guys were having a Blast.. love it. 💯
Were you using a chin mount in this video? It came out really good!
What’s that at 6:29
@@Arsen_._s not sure, what are you looking at? The massive ditch?
20 kw is about 26 hp, which im also not sure that the stock ultra motor and battery goes over 18kw which would be 24hp, but after a battery you could go way higher. I dont know the stock motor limits though. After a full power train upgrade you can run 40+kw or about 60hp so
Then maybe just the torque was similar to the 45hp, Cause that ultra bee had more power than the stark on that track.
@@motomatt224 thats pretty cool, Ive ridden a ultra with a controller and they are soooo nice super torquey, the stark is very smooth
I just ordered the Blue XXX yesterday when Luna released it looks sooo clean
Matt check out the dust hightail. It’s more ultra bee sized and good power. Cool people too.
I think you’d like it bcs it’s almost like a slightly smaller stark.
Yah, that bike looks rad! Hopefully I can ride one soon 🤞🏻
I read the Dust won't ship until late 2025. Bummer, but it sounds like it will be well sorted by launch. Almost a perfect bike IMO as it's the size of the Ultra Bee but with updated tech and better specs more similar to a Stark.
Hahah “holy freaking Toledo” that’s where I’m from🤣🤣😭
Do you think I should sell my 2024 surron for a etm rtr? I like it but I’m only 13 and it’s a little big, and seems like an endless money whole when getting new needed parts, so it’s really hard to pick
I would 100% make the switch. Bikes dialed and needs nothing. Also will fit you better now and moving forward will always be an epic pitbike.
I think the Varg yearns for the open desert. It just needs a little more range.
100%
It's better than a-kit, its SIRRIS Suspension 🚀
😂
That Suspension is top tier! I couldn’t believe how well it performed! 🔥
yoooo wsggg matt
@@fw.yandel finally not sick. 🙌🏻
Sick boys!
take the peak output of motor divided by 750 will give you the horse power of the motor. the 20kw you mentioned would look like 20000 divided by 750 equals 26.67 horse power.
Multiple kw my 1.34 cause 1 kw =1.341 HP
Solid info 🔥
Matt i finally saved enough for the rtr!
@ElliottComerford hell yah!! That’s awesome bro! 🔥
Code “MotoMatt” will knock of another $158 too 🙌🏻
@@motomatt224i was wondering if i should go for the RTR or save a little more for the rawrr mantis x, because i could get double the range and it comes with a horn and a headlight.
@@motomatt224also happy new year!
@ElliottComerford I would get the RTR. You’re going to have more fun, and it comes fully ready to rip.
What did the battery end up being on the ultra bee and stark
After the full day of riding the ultra bee had 48% battery and I’m pretty sure the stark at was 64%
@@motomatt224Thanks man🤘🏽have you seen the 81volt? Might take a stark with that👀
Also what’s your thoughts on the dust moto hightail in my opinion it’s Alr it’s heavy and range is 👎 looks kinda like a mini stark tho idk what’s ur thought on it. I remember u talked abt it a while ago in a past vid also they might give u a discount unlike Surron who doesn’t work w anyone
@@MXL_Rides I think the Dust Moto will be the ultimate around town fun bike. Wayyy cooler looking than the ultra bee too. Performance looks solid!
@ ya I totally agree it’s the price and parts ratio for me for 10k! It needs to be a fully upgraded out ultra and wayyy lighter with more range the power is there but everything thing else especially the price it not crazy for electric dirt bikes now a days
Honestly after thinking about it for a bit. I think if you never wanted to hit a full size motocross track or hit massive dirt jumps. That Dust Moto is probably going to be the best bike ever made. Same exact specs to Zays Ultra bee but looks like a stark. I basically described it without realizing it in the video 😂
@@motomatt224 ya but the cost though the ultra only is around the same price because he’s buying better suspension better battery controller etc and replacing the stock parts so in reality it would be a couple grand cheaper if someone made a bike but already upgraded with those parts without the cost of stock parts I have no hate on the dust but the reviews from some of the vids on it already have been ok I think you can’t get much better then a ultra with the chi battery and serrius suspension combo and controller it’s mainly the range is really bad on the dust at 40 hp witch is its max and for a 210 pound bike more hp feels like less power to weight ratio so 40 hp is nessicery but running at that all the time will drain that battery pretty fast all in all it’s not a horrible option but in my personal opinion it’s gonna be the best option for the next couple months but after that I’m sure they’ll either refine it or someone else will come out w something better
cant wait for another rtr video when do you think that will be posted
Friday 😎
@@motomatt224 alr thanks
What brakes u rubbing on ub
Stock, which is wild
@ brakes are that good? I assume they are cause on my test ride I felt like god of thunder was striking me with stopping power
I got UB. Coming
How many miles did you get?
talaria dragon
😮😮😮😮damn my rawrr mantis x ain't got shit on these😮😮😮😮!!!
ALTIS SIGMA BEST BIKE!!! 😂😂😂
Stand up more on that bike bro😊
If you enjoy your electric bike so much! Why are you making 2stroke noises all the time. 2bangas are only way too really ride. Avagud1
I’ve Still got my 125 2 stroke, I need to ride it again. It’s just been collecting dust
@@motomatt224 i`ve jost got a strg vreg
Electric bikes are good for stuff like this you won’t get in trouble for driving on the street and it’s tones of power
@@ezytrip25 sick! Congrats bro! 🔥