Amen to the destruction comments, even the warlock mini-bosses in the Auchindoun dungeon from WoD sacrifices the demon hes with for more power. The class fantasy of destruction to me is sacrificing everything... your demon, your life, and whatever else is necessary, to gain more power and use that power to... destroy
I love the concept of hero talents, but I do feel like some are way better thematically than others. i.e. Herald of the Sun feels like a natural evolution of Holy, and Templar feels like a natural evolution of Ret. On my Destruction Warlock, though, Hellcaller feels like Affliction and Diabolist feels like Demonology. Neither of them really feel like they are about making big explosive damage (letting me build to big soul fires/rain of fire or big chaos bolts might... and diabolist KIND of does this), they are more about either dots or summoning demons. I'll probably end up Diabolist since it's the closest to having big explosive damage, but I'm a bit let down that a set of hero talents called "Hellcaller" gives me a whole 2% fire damage. Possible ideas that probably aren't that great but sound great in my head: Have destruction able to eat the Wither stacks once they are high enough to make soul fire really big, "imbue it with shadowflame" and give soulfire a different color once Wither becomes acute and create a big bursty double damage soul fire or something. Your soul fire gets buffed like in the line above, but only while a blasphemy or an infernal is out. (perhaps multiple infernals/blasphemies add, but with diminishing returns) move away from +damage and + crit to +crit damage. Maybe it's just me, but I've always felt like destruction is about big crits, and dots were just kind of a secondary "yeah, you're still a warlock" thing.
When you said you can remember three quests from Dragonflight leveling, the one you mentioned was the first one that came to my mind. It was a good quest.
"Destruction historically has been the spec that is the most centered around building and generating and spending Soul Shards." I can't really speak for way back in the day, but I've been playing warlock (mostly Demo) since BfA, and I can tell you with confidence that since then, what you described is not true of Destruction, it's true of Demo. Demo is the only spec that has a consistent, non-RNG method of generating Soul Shards. While AoE Destruction in its current iteration definitely spends the most shards, in any other situation, Demo generates and spends the most shards BY FAR. Like it's not even remotely close Now with that said, I think every warlock was confused by the assignments of the hero talents according to name. Literally every warlock I talked to saw the names, and had absolutely no doubt in the world that Hellcaller was going to be Demo/Destruction. Then Diabolist, a name which evokes demons, would have been the Demo/Aff tree. Which would leave Soul Harvester to be Destor/Aff, which makes sense as they are the two specs who don't have consistent shard generation
Just a quick thought about the warlock section I think you're right about soul harvester but hell caller has to be destro and aff because demo doesn't have a dot (although maybe they could tie it to demon bolt like the current demo tier set) so to get soul harvester destro has to lose out on diabolist which I think is everyone favorite hero talent tree so Blizzard want to give it to the two most popular lock specs.
I may have typed the other comment before I was totally done with the video because I needed to vent about the destruction hero talents. I feel validated in the warlock section lol.
Hellcaller needs a name change. When you look at that name you expect fire and brimstone. But when you look at Wither all that the tree does, it has almost nothing to do with fire. Hellcaller is centered around Affliction way more than it has any relevance to Destro. I think that Hellcaller should be called "Misery." "To me they just change the name, and now it fits the theme of that tree more. YES! Neither of the Destruction trees feel like Destruction, like Lore said Hellcaller says yes i'm destruction, but now I act more like Affliction. Diablolist, says Yes i'm Destruction but now i'm more like Demonology. Now, that being said Diablolist looks and plays so much better than what it sounds like on paper. The demons you summon are friggin awesome, but the previous point still stands. Also they need to add a toggle in the options so that people can choose if they want to see Diablolist's demons or not. Not being able to as default just feels bad. Sure it improves the clarity of your screen, but that should be a choice that we make, and not Blizzard. Personally I am maining Retribution/Templar. But I want to be able to look over and see my guilds warlock if they are playing Diablolist going ham and spamming demon after demon. Just so I can be like "hell yeah, he's poppin off." The check box in the options would be however esstential in Open world content like "Superbloom" for example, as those demons would just be a drain on your FPS more than spells already are. But in a raid setting, I would certainly turn it back on.
Best summary.thank you. about Delves. If you put in any timer like in M+ dungeons they would destroy everything on that pillar. Then you can keep it. I was so happy that something is coming that doesn't have that fucking timer. It can be difficult for all I care, as long as I have the time to master it and don't have to master the time.
Whatever you do, for the love of god, - do not ever leave youtube!
Amen to the destruction comments, even the warlock mini-bosses in the Auchindoun dungeon from WoD sacrifices the demon hes with for more power. The class fantasy of destruction to me is sacrificing everything... your demon, your life, and whatever else is necessary, to gain more power and use that power to... destroy
I love the concept of hero talents, but I do feel like some are way better thematically than others. i.e. Herald of the Sun feels like a natural evolution of Holy, and Templar feels like a natural evolution of Ret. On my Destruction Warlock, though, Hellcaller feels like Affliction and Diabolist feels like Demonology. Neither of them really feel like they are about making big explosive damage (letting me build to big soul fires/rain of fire or big chaos bolts might... and diabolist KIND of does this), they are more about either dots or summoning demons. I'll probably end up Diabolist since it's the closest to having big explosive damage, but I'm a bit let down that a set of hero talents called "Hellcaller" gives me a whole 2% fire damage.
Possible ideas that probably aren't that great but sound great in my head:
Have destruction able to eat the Wither stacks once they are high enough to make soul fire really big,
"imbue it with shadowflame" and give soulfire a different color once Wither becomes acute and create a big bursty double damage soul fire or something.
Your soul fire gets buffed like in the line above, but only while a blasphemy or an infernal is out. (perhaps multiple infernals/blasphemies add, but with diminishing returns)
move away from +damage and + crit to +crit damage.
Maybe it's just me, but I've always felt like destruction is about big crits, and dots were just kind of a secondary "yeah, you're still a warlock" thing.
I didn't know WoW Classic: Cataclysm was bringing back Lore too but I'm all here for it. Video popped into my home feed and I'm very glad
When you said you can remember three quests from Dragonflight leveling, the one you mentioned was the first one that came to my mind. It was a good quest.
One for the algorithm! Nice vid, looking forward to the TWW updates
"Destruction historically has been the spec that is the most centered around building and generating and spending Soul Shards." I can't really speak for way back in the day, but I've been playing warlock (mostly Demo) since BfA, and I can tell you with confidence that since then, what you described is not true of Destruction, it's true of Demo. Demo is the only spec that has a consistent, non-RNG method of generating Soul Shards. While AoE Destruction in its current iteration definitely spends the most shards, in any other situation, Demo generates and spends the most shards BY FAR. Like it's not even remotely close
Now with that said, I think every warlock was confused by the assignments of the hero talents according to name. Literally every warlock I talked to saw the names, and had absolutely no doubt in the world that Hellcaller was going to be Demo/Destruction. Then Diabolist, a name which evokes demons, would have been the Demo/Aff tree. Which would leave Soul Harvester to be Destor/Aff, which makes sense as they are the two specs who don't have consistent shard generation
Just a quick thought about the warlock section I think you're right about soul harvester but hell caller has to be destro and aff because demo doesn't have a dot (although maybe they could tie it to demon bolt like the current demo tier set) so to get soul harvester destro has to lose out on diabolist which I think is everyone favorite hero talent tree so Blizzard want to give it to the two most popular lock specs.
I may have typed the other comment before I was totally done with the video because I needed to vent about the destruction hero talents. I feel validated in the warlock section lol.
Ahhh good to see you again Sir! Not sure if i should mention it, but you helped my tanking game. Gotta ask is Gary still alive lolololol
I'm really hoping that Outlaw gets the WW treatment
Scalecommander lets go!
Hellcaller needs a name change. When you look at that name you expect fire and brimstone. But when you look at Wither all that the tree does, it has almost nothing to do with fire. Hellcaller is centered around Affliction way more than it has any relevance to Destro. I think that Hellcaller should be called "Misery." "To me they just change the name, and now it fits the theme of that tree more.
YES! Neither of the Destruction trees feel like Destruction, like Lore said Hellcaller says yes i'm destruction, but now I act more like Affliction. Diablolist, says Yes i'm Destruction but now i'm more like Demonology. Now, that being said Diablolist looks and plays so much better than what it sounds like on paper. The demons you summon are friggin awesome, but the previous point still stands. Also they need to add a toggle in the options so that people can choose if they want to see Diablolist's demons or not. Not being able to as default just feels bad. Sure it improves the clarity of your screen, but that should be a choice that we make, and not Blizzard.
Personally I am maining Retribution/Templar. But I want to be able to look over and see my guilds warlock if they are playing Diablolist going ham and spamming demon after demon. Just so I can be like "hell yeah, he's poppin off." The check box in the options would be however esstential in Open world content like "Superbloom" for example, as those demons would just be a drain on your FPS more than spells already are.
But in a raid setting, I would certainly turn it back on.
Fyi, Hellcallers are a common satyr caster that they explicitly drew from for the Hero talents. It's a deep cut, but the lore is there.
Best summary.thank you. about Delves. If you put in any timer like in M+ dungeons they would destroy everything on that pillar. Then you can keep it. I was so happy that something is coming that doesn't have that fucking timer. It can be difficult for all I care, as long as I have the time to master it and don't have to master the time.
Hence why I explicitly said I didn't think Blizzard should add a timer
@@devoloreyes i know i only want to say it because It is so important to me. 😂