+Alvin Lee he destroyed Avatar so hard , they will speak of this disaster in centurys... so sad... but still you are right. Signs was good except the last 5 Minutes. And Unbreakable and Sixth Sense are really good Movies.
+Alvin Lee Unbreakable is great, Signs is... OK-ish, but he's had too many terrible films (The Village, The Happening, The Last Airbender, etc.) to call him hit and miss.
+Alexandre Ramos Unbreakable is as good as 6th sense, or even slightly better. The Village is a good movie as well. It was The Sign that started Shyamalan downfall.
***** Signs, I can understand a little more than The Last Airbender. It irks me because, as a fan of the show, it is nothing like the show and is nowhere near an accurate adaptation. Fan-made movies with little to no funding are more faithful than Shyamalan's.
I'm sick of people calling Joel Shumacher a bad director just because of his Batman movies. Sure, they were bad, but the tone was turned into more light hearted films because of Warner Bros. The guy has done plenty of good movies and Falling Down isn't the only one. The Lost Boys, The Phantom of the Opera, Phone Booth. He even directed a couple of episodes of House of Cards. I'm sick of biased hatred. Warner Bros. deserves all the crap he has gotten for years.
@@captainspyder6754 Out of all of Joel Schumacher's movies. His best effort will always be 8MM with Nicolas Cage. He knows how to take a dark content seriously. His two Batman movies maybe an abomination in his filmography, but most of his later films are precisely handled well like The Lost Boys and Phonebooth etc...
@@captainspyder6754 True. Of course I find Batman Forever alright. It was not perfect but if it weren't for the family friendly direction and stayed in tone with the Tim Burton style in the first two films. The deleted scenes of Batman Forever would have saved that movie. But nevertheless it is better than Batman And Robin
Kyle Dwayne Luna Absolutely and while the movie had a family friendly tone, I thought it never went that route with its story as it has dark moments too, Batman & Robin on the other hand was just a train wreck
+Schwipmannen Unbreakable, Signs, Sixth Sense. The Village also wasn't bad, it just had a pointless middle finger to whites ending that didn't need to be there. The hate the guy gets is beyond pedantic at this point. Also the list of "good" movies is HIGHLY questionable.
+Shawnee Anderson Signs was alright up until the end, but the big giant gaping plot hole ruined the whole movie for me. Their weakness is water? Really? It was just too stupid to forgive.
And the Village was even worse. At that point I realized the director was just blatantly lying to me with the sort of movie he was making. It's like he pranked the audience and we really didn't enjoy the prank. It -could- have been an awesome monster movie, but instead "oh yeah, the mentally retarded guy killed someone and.. oh shiiiii, maybe there's a monster after all!! Oh wait no, it's the mentally challenged guy again in a bad costume, and oh yeah we're in the modern day and trying to be ultra-Amish in a truly unbelievable way and uggghh.."
It all starts with the screenplay; the best director in the world cannot make a great movie with a bad screenplay. And yet directors get blamed for a movie that was doomed from the start because of its bad screenplay. Writers don't get enough credit. At least M. Night Shyamalan writes his own screenplays.
+Sizeet That's not really true, many productions give the director lots of discretion on story and script edits, and many movies come out with a great vibe despite dialogue that, when looked at on its own, is subpar. Also, you can just as easily flip that and say that the best screenwriter in the world is gonna look terrible if his script is stuck in the hands of an incompetent director.
antourte1, given that what I stated has proven true time and time again, I don't see how one can state that it's not true. Your points are not bad; there's some good reasoning there. But I'll stick with my opinion "It all starts with the screenplay." There's a reason that various writers and directors state that; I didn't realize how many of them state that until I Googled it after I stated it. And writers indeed generally do not get enough credit. People often make it all about the director; this is another aspect covered in reliable sources discussing the film business, including the fact that writers used to get all the credit.
*****, when I stated, "At least M. Night Shyamalan writes his own screenplays.", it had nothing to do with praise. My stating that he writes his own screenplays had/has to do with the fact that at least if a film he directed fails as a film, the full blame can validly go to him. You know, since he wrote and directed the film, as opposed to a decent or good director who happened to direct a film based on a bad script. When a bad script is involved, I do not blame the director for the bad film unless the director wrote it. I stated that "It all starts with the script." And I stand by that "the script must be good first, or at least mediocre" view. As for M. Night Shyamalan not deserving credit, he deserves credit for his good films, bad films and mediocre ones. EDITED: To change "it had nothing to do with the main points I was making" to "it had nothing to do with praise."
*****, so you can tell me what I am claiming? Okay. The positive side is exactly what I stated above: He gets full credit for his films being good or bad. If the film is good, he gets writing and directing credit. If the film is bad, then it's better that he is blamed for it than someone else being blamed for it. Nowhere did I state that it's best that M. Night Shyamalan write all of his films; and I didn't mean to imply that. We clearly disagree on what is a positive side in this case. And I don't need you to educate me on M. Night Shyamalan, as if I am unfamiliar with his work and what a lot of people state about him. In my opinion, despite his number of bad films, he is nowhere close to being the worst writer or director. "The Sixth Sense" was not a fluke; the script and film were brilliant, and critically praised. He had other solid stories after that. He then went on a losing streak. Now a lot of people think he is recovering from that losing streak because they like "The Visit" or feel that "The Visit" is decent. Blah, blah, blah. Chris Stuckmann and others have been over (addressed) all of this.
Ummmm Joel Schumacher directed The Lost Boys. It doesn't make up for Batman and Robin but he had some decent flicks under his belt besides Falling Down.
+MrsB055 PHONE BOOTH and TIGERLAND spring to mind but yes some clunkers along the way someone else posted ST ELMO's fire on that list but I'm pretty sure that was JOHN HUGHES !!
+pvtrichter88 A quick IMDb search reveals that Joel Schumacher wrote and directed St. Elmo's Fire with absolutely no involvement from John Hughes whatsoever.
He also directed "8mm". Love that film. very haunting audio/visual atmosphere with that dark ethnic music by Mychael Danna while searching for clues in the underworld of holywood's illigal adult industri.
So judging by this comment thread, Schumacher isn't a bad director. He's just very inconsistent. P.s I respect him more for saying sorry about Batman and Robin.
"Bad" directors is too harsh. How do you think they would feel if they saw this video? The fact that they made at least one good movie proves they deserve more respect than this.
Yea it aint easy to make one average movie...let alone classics like these. That's one more than any commenter or watchmojo host. I understand the want to make this list, but I feel like the follow up commentary by the host is unfair.
M Night Shyamalan is a one of the few directors working in modern days who really knows about filmmaking before going insane. Signs and Unbreakable are also good. Shdn't say he's a bad director.
+Pink Floyd is the Best Band of All Time he arguably did more good/decent movies, than bad movies. Wide Awake is a decent kid movie, both The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable are masterpieces, Sings is a good thriller partially spoiled by it's ambiguous ending, The Village is a good and underrated movie, The Lady In The Water is a mediocre fairy tail movie with some absurd moments, both The Happening and The Last Airbender are horrible movies, After Earth is a boring bad sci-fi flick, The Visit is a good comedy-horror movie and Split is surprisingly a top-notch thriller. 7 good or awesome movies vs 3 bad movies and 1 mediocre flick don't make Shyamalan a bad director, dude.
InsomniacHS Good movies: Split Great Movies: The Sixth Sense Unbreakable Bad Movies: The Village The Visit Pretty Bad Movies: Wide Awake Praying with Anger Horrible Movies: Signs Worst Movies of All Time: The Last Airbender The Happening Lady In The Water After Earth Film Count: 1 Good, 2 Great, 2 Bad, 2 Pretty Bad, 1 Horrible, And 4 Of The Worst Movies Ever Made.
I would agree with you, if your taste of your films would be a normal or if you knew at least something about movies. Maybe I generalized the Shyamalan's movies, but you generalized his movies with an ignorance.
Joel Schumacher did a lot of excellent movies: The Lost Boys, Flatliners, Falling Down, The Client, A Time to Kill, 8mm. His problem is that the dark parts of Batman Forever were axed by the producers (The Goofy parts were influenced by 60's Batman and let's admit Buton's Batman films had their share of goofiness as well) and he went all 60's Batman's with Batman & Robin, and it was a disaster.
jack lloyd Unfortunately, Rocky Maivia was still a rising star in the WWF when that movie came out. I'm sure he'll be in the sequel if they ever make one. Signed, KG
Good suggestion. And yes, Sandler's 'Punch Drunk Love' should be included (although, 'Funny People' is a close runner-up), but my vote for #1 would HAVE to go to Sly Stallone for the original 'Rocky.' Also, I'd include Mickey Rourke for 'The Wrestler,' and Christian Slater for 'True Romance.'
Johnny Skinwalker Yeah, that's a valid point. He did do some great stuff in the 80s. He had faded into semi-obscurity before 'The Wrestler,' and kind of came out of nowhere to deliver a powerhouse performance...but you're absolutely right. I withdraw that nomination. Stallone is arguable, too...I mean, *is* he technically a bad actor? Or how about Arnold? it's all very, very subjective, of course.
MrDunedon Not to forget Kevin James for King of Queens, Marlon Wayans for Requiem For A Dream, Eli Roth for Inglourious Basterds, Kristen Stewart for Still Alice, Eddie Murphy for Dreamgirls & of course Tommy Wiseau for The Room
MJosephB Speed Racer is god awful and the Matrix sequels were a disappointment. Reloaded has one amazing highway scene and the rest of the movie is forgettable. Revolutions is terrible. ***** they also produced it.
Not really. They still got the magic. It's just that Matrix managed to hide it's eccentricity well enough, while Jupiter Ascending didn't care to. Just look at Matrix Revolutions ending. Too unconventional for a blockbuster, and the people left in confusion.
Nah, they're more of a hit or miss duo. The Matrix and V for Vendetta were great. The Matrix sequels, Cloud Atlas, and Speed Racer are pretty divisive. Jupiter Ascending is just... ...bad.
i have an idea for a top 10: Top 10 Good directors making bad movies with good actors but bad acting but good sound effects but bad video effects but good plot but bad scenery
Denis Kartachov Top 10 good movies with bad sountrack, good sountrack in bad movies, good movies with awful comstumes, bad movies with awesome constumes, good movies with bad camera, bad movies with good camera... Boy, watchmojo have unlimitied source of stupid top 10s.
Am I the only one who thinks M. Night Shyamalamadingdong's best work was Unbreakable? I mean the Sixth Sense was good and all but I think it's pretty overrated...Unbreakable was just fantastic and it's very underrated too. Everything from the performances (especially Samuel L. Jackson) to the score and even to the plot twist was just excellent.
Count me in as one who agrees with you. Really enjoyed 'Unbreakable' -- and, unlike 'Sixth Sense,' it can actually be enjoyed for more than one viewing.
Ah C'mon!!!! Joel isn't a bad director. Sure he made one of the worst comic book movies ever. But he also made Lost boys. Flatliners. Phone Booth. The dude is freakin awesome. You gotta blame freakin Warner Bros for the Batman & Robin atrocity.
Pandorum is fucking awesome. Admittedly, once you have watched it once, much of the tension is reduced but still it is a great fit with a great ending.
Irvin Kershner was a respected director of small character driven dramas. That's why he was chosen to direct the Empire Strikes Back. He shouldn't even be on this list.
M.NIGHT's GOOD FILMS SIGNS UNBREAKABLE THE 6th SENSE THE VISIT SCHUMACHER's GOOD FILMS PHONE BOOTH LOST BOYS ST. ELMO's FIRE FLATLINERS FALLING DOWN VERONICA GUERIN TIGERLAND
Why is Pandorum considered bad? It blended visceral violence, the howling horror of empty space, and the descent of man to a subhuman form...just like Event Horizon.
+Floyd Palmer Yeah, I was surprised by the commentary, I mean: "produced single tears of horrors". Pandorum is a lot better than Event Horizon actually.
+Justin Flack I have to disagree with you guys. Event Horizon was superior to Pandorum, deeper, more interesting characters, better chemistry between the actors... But I'll defend Pandorum as a good film too. Less psychological horror, more viscera but still, the plot worked well and the ending was great.
All these directors did good ones before and after the ones mentioned. The only Joel Schumacher movie I didn't like was 8mm because of the subject matter, but I liked how he kept the mood very dark and moody, and not lighthearted. With Michael Bay, Armageddon was good, but somewhat overrated, and the Transformers sequels could've been worse. Event Horizon and Pandorum had similar storylines, but both good on their own. Independance Day by Roland Emmerich, Stargate wasn't a favorite, Universal Soldier was good as were some of his disaster ones, cheesy or not. M. Night Shylaman hasn't done many bad ones to me, but the Happening was very abstract. Jan DeBont of Speed, after Twister and even The Haunting, could still come up with some new stuff. One last thing about J S, the first movie I saw by him was FlatLiners, at a very young age, I liked it, but the sexual content and language was somewhat overdone, though by today's standards it was seem rather tame. But these are my opinions...
Peter Segal - Tommy Boy..... I love Tommy Boy and I looked up Segal's filmography....he's done a lot of good stuff, familiar movies....but yeah...he fell off after Tommy Boy.
Why so much hate for M. Night Shyamalan? The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, Signs (up until the last few minutes), the Village and Lady in the Water were all pretty good movies.
patch0file Agreed!!! It was Airbender and Happening that sucked XP NEVER fully got why people hated the Village. If you watch it as a drama instead of a horror it's a really good movie! =)
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1) Andrew Davis is an awesome example; because The Fugitive has always been a favorite of mine, but the dude hasn't done anything interesting besides this one. 2) Pandorum isn't a bad movie. 3) The Box was a failure but was nonetheless very interesting. 4) Schumacher also did Flatliners and Tigerland, so his case isn't that simple. 5) Red Dragon was a bad movie, a lot closer to Hannibal than Manhunter or Silence of the Lambs. 6) Totally agree about The Rock, the only really awesome movie that Bay directed. 7) Unbreakable is better than Sixth Sense, which is essentially remembered for its final twist.
I liked Pandorum... It captured what I like in certain films and animation that take place beyond earth's atmosphere; that "cold, dark, and alone" feeling. I experienced a rare and distinct sense of tension and suspense from that movie.
10. Good Director: Happy Gilmore Bad Director: Jack and Jill, Grown-Ups 2, and many more 9. Good Director: The Fugitive Bad Director: Unknown? 8. Good Director: Event Horizon (I Love That Movie) Bad Director: More Resident Evil Series 7. Good Director: Speed Bad Director: Speed 2 & The Haunting 6. Good Director: Donnie Darko Bad Director: Southland Tales 5. Good Director: Independence Day Bad Director: More Disaster Movies 4. Good Director: Falling Down, The Lost Boys, and Phone Booth Bad Director: Batman & Robin 3. Good Director: Rush Hour, The Family Man, and Red Dragon Bad Director: X-Men 3, Rush Hour 3, and Hercules 2. Good Director: The Rock Bad Director: Transformers sequels 1. Good Director: The Sixth Sense & Unbreakable Bad Director: The Happening, The Last Airbender, and After Earth
Here's my top 10 bad directors did good movies: 10. 500 Days of Summer, Directed by Marc Webb (His Bad Endorsement of The Amazing Spider-Man 2) 9. Pretty Woman, Directed by Garry Marshall (His Bad Endorsement of The Princess Diaries, Georgia's Rule, Valentine's Day, and New Year's Eve) 8. Pineapple Express, Directed by David Gordon Green (His Bad Endorsement of Your Highness & The Sitter) 7. Thirteen & Lords of Dogtown, Directed by Catherine Hardwicke (Her Bad Endorsement of Twilight & Red Riding Hood) 6. Scary Movie, Directed by Keenan Ivory Wayans (His Bad Endorsement of Scary Movie 2, White Chicks, and Little Man) 5. The Devil Rejects, Directed by Rob Zombie (His Bad Endorsement of Two Halloween Remakes) 4. The Wedding Singer, Directed by Frank Capra (His Bad Endorsement of The Waterboy, Click, Zookeeper, and Blended) 3. Mean Girls, Directed by Mark Walters (His Bad Endorsement of Ghost of Girlfriend's Past, Mr. Popper's Penguins, and Vampire Academy) 2. The Fast and the Furious, Directed by Rob Cohen (His Bad Endorsement of The Mummy 3, Alex Cross, and The Boy Next Door) and... 1. The Matrix, Directed by The Wachowski Brothers (Their Bad Endorsement of The Matrix Revolutions, Speed Racer, and Jupiter Ascending)
"Postal" - Uwe Boll. It was a total mess, sure but it had some genuinely funny moments (intentional or not, I'm unsure), decent acting, decent action scenes. I think it captured the spirit of the source material very well and IMO it's very watchable.
I absolutely don't understand Schumacher's inclusion. I'd rather call him 'inconsistent', but definitely not bad overall. And I'd also shy away from using the two Batman films he did as examples since like almost everybody knows, obviously apart from WatchMojo, that the studio is the main candidate to be blamed and Joel acted in those two instances more as a director for hire, though he certainly also could not go away from this with a clean slate. Apart from Falling Down, which is one of my most favourite films of all time, he also did Tigerland, The Client, A Time to Kill, Phone Booth, 8mm, The Lost Boys, all great films. Plus Flatliners, Flawless and Veronica Guerin were decent. This sounds like more than enough to me.
Michael Bay gets hated on for no reason. Just becasue you're not into his movies doesn't mean he's a bad director. A bad director is simply someone who doesn't know how to direct
***** Yeah, the fact that he achieve over US$ 5 billions in revenue with less than 10 movies, while most "Oscar winners" never achieved US$ 1 billion in their entire careers shows how bad Michael Bay is.
+Andre D'Arisbo That may well be true, but he got very lucky with Empire. If you listen to his audio commentary it does seem as though most of the best bits came about more by accident, rather than by design.
+Andre D'Arisbo My 16-year-old dog is a better director than Lucas. His first feature is due out this summer, it's called "I Ate Daddy's Nikes And He Still Loves Me." The critics are all agog.
Event Horizon. ^_^ Not a huge film but I loved it. I really, really did. It was scary in a whole different way than you see in a lot of sci-fi horrors. Pandorum was another great one nobody really knows about. :)
My List : Andrew Davis - Under Siege (1992), Paul W.S. Anderson - Shopping (1994), Joel Schumacher - Phone Booth (2002), Renny Harlin - Mindhunters (2004), Brett Ratner - X Men the Last Stand (2006), Michael Bay - Pain & Gain (2013) and MCG - 3 Days to Kill (2014).
The Sixth Sense, Signs, The Visit, Devil, After Earth... I disagree with this video, M. Night Shyamalan is definitely NOT a poor director. His problem is that he couldn't top The Sixth Sense. Critics seem to unfairly compare ALL of his movies to his ghost masterpiece. I also didn't find "The Happening"to be the big disaster people claim it was. I thought it was rather inventive. Even "Unbreakable" has a solid following and has been called genius for it's originality. Critics, in my opinion, are what kills a lot of M. Night's box office success.
Totally disagree Bro, I've seen a lot worse. Even if you did not care for his storyline, subject matter, or genre, M Night's direction is tight and his movies move along in a cohesive story telling fashion. Though he stays within the genre of Sc-Fi, Fantasy and Horror, he can also direct comedic moments which most directors will tell you is difficult. He can create moments of horror or awe or unbearable suspense. Again- whether you like his finished product or not, he is a talented Director and should not be on this list.
+MAP Agree to disagree I suppose that at the end of the day it's really subjective but I have to say if you make a shit fest like After Earth and The Last Airbender I'm sorry but I can't call you a good Director
I want to know why Stephen Hopkins is not on the list. He took great opportunities like Lost in Space, Blown Away, The Ghost and the Darkness, The Reaping and Predator 2 and turned them into a Bore-fest. Particularly The Ghost and the Darkness which is a true story and could have been an awesome movie. Or Michael Bay who directs such ham-handed choreographed scenes. Especially intimate or romantic material that leaves any normal adult cringing or blushing with embarrassment. Like his many eye-rolling moments in Armageddon, such as- After the US being responsible for blowing up the Russian space station early in the film, by the end, we see Russian's waving American flags. Or Ben Affleck toying with Liv Tyler's bra while singing "I'm leaving on a jet plain" as she balls her eyes out in an embarrassingly bad scene. Or the Lady who tells her kids that the man at the door is a salesman. Then 10 minutes later, when she finds that the man is going to try and stop the meteor, tell's her children "That man is no salesman - that's your daddy" Both of these action Directors incorporate multi angle, fast cuts into their films, most of which leave the viewer not knowing what the hell is going on on-screen. These cheap editing tricks are suppose suffice as action. I guess the old saying is true; If you can't dazzle then with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit. The crime is that these "Directors" have been richly rewarded for their efforts and are highly regarded even though M. Night Shyamalan is twice the director they are.
I wouldn't call Shamalyn or Shumacher bad directors. Just mixed, Shamalayn has The Sixth Sense, Signs, Unbrakable, The Visit and Split, while Shumacher has The Lost Boys, Falling Down, Phone Booth and A Time To Kill
Of all the movies I've seen from M.Night Shyamalan, I had to say that the main problem of some are the "twist plot" But Shyamalan direction it's always so good, even when the movie is not as good as we want.
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Joel Shulmucker has the same amount of good movies as Francis Ford Coppola The Lost Boys Phone Booth A Time to Kill 8mm Tigerland Falling Down He's not really a terrible director he just did 2 horrible Batman movies and a couple of mediocre movies later on.
Good movies by bad directors in my opinion. 5. Inception- Christoph Nolan 4. Deep Blue sea- Renny Harlin 3. Red Corner- Jon Avent 2. Clover field- JJ Abrams 1. Jeannot Szwarc- Jaws 2
I saw it twice, it was decent, it like trying to be a David Lynch movie except without any profundity. It's just weird without having a real message. Or whatever message is in there is stupid.
Both Michael Bay and M. night shyamalan have in my opinion a 50/50 split of good/bad movies. So I think it's unfair to out them on the list. Especially since Unbreakable and The Sixth Sense are two of the best movies I have ever seen...
Def make another top ten bc there are more surprisingly Michael Bay (Bad Boys 1, 2, or armageddon) M Night (Unbreakable or Signs) Joel Schumacher (Phone Booth, Lost Boys, Tigerland, or A Time to Kill) Renny Harlin (Die Hard 2 or Cliffhanger) Dennis Dugan (Big Daddy) Roland Emmerich (The Patriot) That's all I can think of at the top of my head
Kyle O'Bryan A director can go overboard on the art intelectual stuff, make Movies that are shown only on a handfull artfilm festivals around the World. Is the art of making a Movie to entertaine the public or a few hippsters.
+Exploatores The art of making a movie is to stay true to yourself. I like Tarantino's look on it in an interview. "I make movies that I would like to go see in the theater". That's not the exact quote but it's something down that line.
Exploatores I geus that could be. Although some quotes from interviews might suggest otherwise. like one of his responses to critical backlash: "I make movies for 13 year old boys...what a crime". However it is not up to me of course to tell him what to do, even if I don't like his movies. I would rather life in a world where filmmakers can make whatever they want to make instead of being forced to make a particular type of movie just because people tell them to.
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It's very unfair calling Shyamalan a bad director after directing films ligh Unbreakable, The Village or Sings... he's got bad films, but the good ones are really top!
Shyamalan has made 2 great movies: 6th Sense and Unbreakable. 4 Decent ones: Signs, wide awake, the Village, the Visit. The rest of his filmography sucks. The Last Airbender and The Happening are particularly terrible. I'd still watch his movies over any of Michael Bay's crap, though. That clown is to good films what Justin Bieber is to good music, and The Rock is a dime a dozen popcorn movie, just because it's better than the rest of Bay's shallow trash doesn't make it a great film.
+vance astrovik Man, people get so upset about commercial stuff like Bay and Bieber. It's not made for film/music fans, that's like somebody who's on a healthy diet getting upset that Oreos exist.
M night shyamalan is about 50/50 I liked the 6th sense, unbreakable, and signs, the visit and split were okay but devil, the village, the last airbender, lady in the lake and the happening were an insult. it's not that his directing is all that bad but a lot of the screenplay are just plain shit and since he does that too its his own fault.
"Films that are generally considered to good, either through their mix of popularity, critical, or commercial success." Independence Day was popular and had a commercial success, therefore, it's in the list; whether you consider it good or not.
Paul Anderson, you son of a bitch, you ruined The Three Musketeers -_- Joel Schoemaker, you son of a bitch, you ruined Batman -_- Brett Ratner, you son of a bitch, you ruined X-Men -_-
+Thomas Baron Totally, dude! haha...especially Batman! To this day, I personally think Tim Burton's original two Batman's were the best Bat-flicks ever. I hate it when people associate Joel Schoemaker's two bat films with Burton's. The only things which the 4 of those movies had in common were Michael Gough's Alfred, and Pat Hingle's Gorden. EVERYTHING else (short of the WB logo) was different. They were in fact two different series's with two different directors with two different visions, cast, crews, and inspirations: Burton's original two were based on the original dark and Gothic comic-books; whereas Schoemaker's follow-up two were based on the campy TV-show of the 1960's. Batman (1989) and Batman Returns (1992) were comic-book masterpieces with an homage being paid to the 'film noire' of the 1940's as well as Burton's flare of the dark, gritty depressive, and creepy-mystical almost subtly fantastical elements mixed into gloomy everyday realism (which these attributes in particular was expounded upon in Chris Nolan's realism of his Dark Knight Trilogy many years later). With Danny Elfman's masterful music score, Michael Keaton's perfect casting as Batman/Bruce Wayne, The supporting cast for these 2 motion pictures, the crew...etc., and the perfect balance between dark fantasy and gritty realism, Tim Burton's original two comic-book hero feature films are the greatest Batman movies ever made. Batman Forever (1995) and Batman & Robin (1997) are major comic-book failures, even if they were just paying homage to 1960's camp or cartoons.The only really good or arguably 'cool' thing to take away from those 2 movies was Jim Carey's Riddler. I admit that I am a big fan of Carey's humor, but here even his twisted embodyment of Edward Nygma was nearly perfect; especialy' for that type of film. Everything else about those 2 films sucked (for lack of a better insult, ha).
AftermathRebel yes, I do believe Tim Burton did it right! Schomaker even admitted in an interview that he made it more kid friendly to sell toys. he turned Batman into a sales pitch :P Tim Burton's Batman films along with Danny Elfman's score were perfect. since Schoemaker killed it, I couldn't stand Batman movies. thank the gods for Christopher Nolan.
Uh Paul W.S Anderson directed and written other franchise and oldies that are butchered like Resident Evil, Alien vs Predator, a Death Race remake with his highest rating on Rotten Tomato at 46%, and he still gets work and hasn't done anything original since Soldier starring Kurt Russell but he directed some decent films like Mortal Kombat which everybody likes, Event Horizon which has a cult following that influence many horror movies and games like Dead Space, and the first Resident Evil movie which was okay but the sequels are crap and Afterlife is the worst.
I think shyamalan is really harshly maligned. I've seen this criticism of signs, and even if true about the water plot hole, it's still SO watchable, come on! Plus, is it such a bad plot hole?? Loads of alien films talk about how the alien's world is dying and they're desperate for a new home. Maybe they know water is bad for them but they have to come here anyway. They stay away from water (says it in the film) and they try to take over in a surprise attack, probably trying to avoid the water problem... Anyway, that aside, the village was also good and beautifully shot, in my opinion; i know many others didn't feel the same, i just think people were getting sick of his twist shtick, which is fair enough, but there's a lot else to like about that film. And there is unbreakable, which i think is a massively underrated film, and possibly one of the best comic book related films ever made. And I know I'm not the only one. Seen a few articles (in 'respected' magazines/websites,) since the marvel takeover of the cinemas, saying that unbreakable is the counterpoint to that, the thinking man's comic/superhero film. Sure, he's done some bad films, but holding him up as a "bad director" when he's done some really good/great films is too much, in my opinion...
LKeet6 well the aliens in Signs aren't even really aliens, they're just representations of demons that haunt Graham and his family. That's why the movie is told from that one family's perspective.
The Fugitive is a fantastically well-directed movie. The performances of Ford and Jones rank among the absolute best of their careers. It's hard to accept the idea that Davis is a "bad director," when there might be a lot more involved in his later work-- the producer, for example. "Holes" was a pretty convincing comedy, too, and all of the performances in that were enjoyable.
+bullsquid42 I think The Sixth Sense is a masterpiece, and Signs, The Village, and Unbreakable are good. But that's where his good movies end for me, because the rest is just a load of crap.
to call somebody, who made a movie people liked, "bad" is an extremely bold statement... Nobody without talent could pull it off and it got absolutely nothing to do with luck.
Who put Irvin Kershner on here? Hoodlum Priest, Eyes of Laura Mars, The Empire Strikes Back, Never Say Never Again, Robocop 2? Hardly a bad director, just unknown.
I knew all along that "The Sixth Sense" was going to be #1 And I'm sorry, Independance Day might be entertaining to some, but it's still a piece of shit movie
+Raven Zeitemann I'm glad to see I'm not alone here. It's a really bad movie and I can't believe it's getting a second part. I agree with The Rock being a decent movie by a horrible director (fuck you Michael Bay) but Independance Day is just pure American patriotism that would make anyone with half a brain cringe.
I think people consider Independence Day as a good movie because 1) Will Smith, 2) Jeff Goldblum, and 3) Bill Pullman. It wasn't afraid to blow stuff up as well, but the above three actors had charisma. I actually didn't like Will Smith in ID4, I cannot stand him in his machismo, uber-testosterony mode, but a number of folks did, so... some of the effects work in ID4 were great, but the explosions.. the explosions were bad. Even for 1996 special effects, those were bad bad fire effects. They tried to use some fractal effects to create fire, and it was definitely not ready for prime time.
Richard Kellys movies are great and M. Night Shyamalan... he's is the best horrormovie director of them all. The only bad movie I know is The last Airbender but this was another genre as well. In horror he's the unbeaten king!
outsidelookinginprod I never get why everybody think that The Happening is a horrormovie, because it's not! It's an disaster movie just like The Day After Tomorrow or sth like that. And for a disaster movie it was scary. And yes I saw Southland Tales and it's trashy but I liked it. It wasn't logical or sth but it was fun to watch.
Thebestbuddy1986 that just sounds racist bad boys 1&2 is far superior than Batman and robin ...which is considered one of the worst films ever made...i saw it as a kid and hated it!!
Ans: I dont agree with your list. How could Shyamalan be bad director? He has just failed. He has made some unforgettable movies. Other directors too are fascinated with him.
I blame Batman & Robin on Warner Bros. Joel didn't get all the creative control he wanted. He actually wanted to do a Batman: Year One & Batman Beyond film but Warner Bros wanted a campier film because it was easy to market
M.Night Shyamalan also directed Unbreakable and Signs - both fantastic movies. He's got hits and misses but I wouldn't classify him as a bad director.
+Alvin Lee he destroyed Avatar so hard , they will speak of this disaster in centurys... so sad... but still you are right. Signs was good except the last 5 Minutes. And Unbreakable and Sixth Sense are really good Movies.
+D. Akr by any chance do u mean the last airbender....i agree that most of the avatar was shot at night(in d movie) but none of it was shot by night
+puneet gulati ofc do i mean the Last Airbender which is based on the Avatar Cartoon.
yes i agree! btw i took film analysis
+Alvin Lee Unbreakable is great, Signs is... OK-ish, but he's had too many terrible films (The Village, The Happening, The Last Airbender, etc.) to call him hit and miss.
I wouldn't count M.Night Shyamalan because he was a good director turned bad, not the other way around.
+Alexandre Ramos Unbreakable is as good as 6th sense, or even slightly better. The Village is a good movie as well. It was The Sign that started Shyamalan downfall.
+Robson Waterkemper
And The Last Airbender made the downfall permanent.
*****
Signs, I can understand a little more than The Last Airbender.
It irks me because, as a fan of the show, it is nothing like the show and is nowhere near an accurate adaptation. Fan-made movies with little to no funding are more faithful than Shyamalan's.
*****
Really!? You never heard of Avatar: The Last Airbender?
+Alexandre Ramos The Visit (2015) was great, though.
I'm sick of people calling Joel Shumacher a bad director just because of his Batman movies. Sure, they were bad, but the tone was turned into more light hearted films because of Warner Bros. The guy has done plenty of good movies and Falling Down isn't the only one. The Lost Boys, The Phantom of the Opera, Phone Booth. He even directed a couple of episodes of House of Cards. I'm sick of biased hatred. Warner Bros. deserves all the crap he has gotten for years.
T I L B Thank you! And hell I’m in the minority who actually loved Batman Forever
@@captainspyder6754 Out of all of Joel Schumacher's movies. His best effort will always be 8MM with Nicolas Cage. He knows how to take a dark content seriously. His two Batman movies maybe an abomination in his filmography, but most of his later films are precisely handled well like The Lost Boys and Phonebooth etc...
Kyle Dwayne Luna I like batman Forever but no doubt batman and robin was an abomination, the lost boys and his other work are awesome
@@captainspyder6754 True. Of course I find Batman Forever alright. It was not perfect but if it weren't for the family friendly direction and stayed in tone with the Tim Burton style in the first two films. The deleted scenes of Batman Forever would have saved that movie. But nevertheless it is better than Batman And Robin
Kyle Dwayne Luna Absolutely and while the movie had a family friendly tone, I thought it never went that route with its story as it has dark moments too, Batman & Robin on the other hand was just a train wreck
Come on wtf shyamalan also made Unbreakable.
+Schwipmannen Unbreakable, Signs, Sixth Sense. The Village also wasn't bad, it just had a pointless middle finger to whites ending that didn't need to be there. The hate the guy gets is beyond pedantic at this point.
Also the list of "good" movies is HIGHLY questionable.
Look at the bad movies though, an innumerable amount.
+Shawnee Anderson Signs was alright up until the end, but the big giant gaping plot hole ruined the whole movie for me. Their weakness is water? Really? It was just too stupid to forgive.
And the Village was even worse. At that point I realized the director was just blatantly lying to me with the sort of movie he was making. It's like he pranked the audience and we really didn't enjoy the prank. It -could- have been an awesome monster movie, but instead "oh yeah, the mentally retarded guy killed someone and.. oh shiiiii, maybe there's a monster after all!! Oh wait no, it's the mentally challenged guy again in a bad costume, and oh yeah we're in the modern day and trying to be ultra-Amish in a truly unbelievable way and uggghh.."
Twitchy Studios good joke bro
Joel Schumacher has had more than one good movie like Flatliners and Phone Booth and The Lost Boys
I totally agree, 8 MM is my favourite
i never knew he made phone booth
So true!!!!
Batman Forever was awesome
I'm guessing The Rock for Michael Bay and the Sixth Sense for M. Night Syamalamadingdong.
what about m night shitface?
Why doesn't he just go by M Night? Lol.
SuperLordGaming he's no rapper, maybe thats why
Michael Bay is a better producer
TVBnine Or M.Night SHAMEaladingdong.
Some lame director named George Lucas made some alright stuff back in the 70s, including a space opera that ended up being a pretty big deal.
He made American Graffiti and Thx so he is not an overall bad director.
+negativeletter Which he only produced. Director was Willard Huyck.
+Ryan England Revenge of the Sith is IMO underrated, though EP II was shit.
+kingmatt2563 Graffity is boring like sh.t.
margus kiis What! Well your opinion I guess, I thought it was a great film.
It all starts with the screenplay; the best director in the world cannot make a great movie with a bad screenplay. And yet directors get blamed for a movie that was doomed from the start because of its bad screenplay. Writers don't get enough credit. At least M. Night Shyamalan writes his own screenplays.
+Sizeet That's not really true, many productions give the director lots of discretion on story and script edits, and many movies come out with a great vibe despite dialogue that, when looked at on its own, is subpar.
Also, you can just as easily flip that and say that the best screenwriter in the world is gonna look terrible if his script is stuck in the hands of an incompetent director.
antourte1, given that what I stated has proven true time and time again, I don't see how one can state that it's not true. Your points are not bad; there's some good reasoning there. But I'll stick with my opinion "It all starts with the screenplay." There's a reason that various writers and directors state that; I didn't realize how many of them state that until I Googled it after I stated it. And writers indeed generally do not get enough credit. People often make it all about the director; this is another aspect covered in reliable sources discussing the film business, including the fact that writers used to get all the credit.
*****, and?
*****, when I stated, "At least M. Night Shyamalan writes his own screenplays.", it had nothing to do with praise. My stating that he writes his own screenplays had/has to do with the fact that at least if a film he directed fails as a film, the full blame can validly go to him. You know, since he wrote and directed the film, as opposed to a decent or good director who happened to direct a film based on a bad script. When a bad script is involved, I do not blame the director for the bad film unless the director wrote it. I stated that "It all starts with the script." And I stand by that "the script must be good first, or at least mediocre" view.
As for M. Night Shyamalan not deserving credit, he deserves credit for his good films, bad films and mediocre ones.
EDITED: To change "it had nothing to do with the main points I was making" to "it had nothing to do with praise."
*****, so you can tell me what I am claiming? Okay. The positive side is exactly what I stated above: He gets full credit for his films being good or bad. If the film is good, he gets writing and directing credit. If the film is bad, then it's better that he is blamed for it than someone else being blamed for it. Nowhere did I state that it's best that M. Night Shyamalan write all of his films; and I didn't mean to imply that.
We clearly disagree on what is a positive side in this case. And I don't need you to educate me on M. Night Shyamalan, as if I am unfamiliar with his work and what a lot of people state about him. In my opinion, despite his number of bad films, he is nowhere close to being the worst writer or director. "The Sixth Sense" was not a fluke; the script and film were brilliant, and critically praised. He had other solid stories after that. He then went on a losing streak. Now a lot of people think he is recovering from that losing streak because they like "The Visit" or feel that "The Visit" is decent. Blah, blah, blah. Chris Stuckmann and others have been over (addressed) all of this.
Ummmm Joel Schumacher directed The Lost Boys. It doesn't make up for Batman and Robin but he had some decent flicks under his belt besides Falling Down.
+MrsB055 PHONE BOOTH and TIGERLAND spring to mind but yes some clunkers along the way someone else posted ST ELMO's fire on that list but I'm pretty sure that was JOHN HUGHES !!
I believe he directed, perhaps Hughes wrote it only? He did work as a screenwriter for others.
I agree
+pvtrichter88 A quick IMDb search reveals that Joel Schumacher wrote and directed St. Elmo's Fire with absolutely no involvement from John Hughes whatsoever.
He also directed "8mm". Love that film. very haunting audio/visual atmosphere with that dark ethnic music by Mychael Danna while searching for clues in the underworld of holywood's illigal adult industri.
Michael Bay also directed The Island.. in my opinion an incredibly underrated thriller and also his best film
"Falling Down" wasn't Schumacher's only good movie.
Lost Boys for sure
I find PhoneBooth quite an enjoyable film as well.
And Lost Boys is a classic 80's film
Yea I keep seeing people saying they really like Phone Booth me not so much but meh whatever
***** Yea thought about mentioning that one as well
So judging by this comment thread, Schumacher isn't a bad director. He's just very inconsistent. P.s I respect him more for saying sorry about Batman and Robin.
"Bad" directors is too harsh. How do you think they would feel if they saw this video? The fact that they made at least one good movie proves they deserve more respect than this.
Adam Lmao Watchmojo keeps it real
Oh no, we'll hurt the feewings of some mega rich people who are bad directors.
Yea it aint easy to make one average movie...let alone classics like these. That's one more than any commenter or watchmojo host.
I understand the want to make this list, but I feel like the follow up commentary by the host is unfair.
From what I’ve heard even Joel Schumacher said he hated Batman & Roben, so I’m sure some of these people wouldn’t be so offended
M Night Shyamalan is a one of the few directors working in modern days who really knows about filmmaking before going insane. Signs and Unbreakable are also good. Shdn't say he's a bad director.
hahahahahahahahahahaha good joke.
+Pink Floyd is the Best Band of All Time he arguably did more good/decent movies, than bad movies. Wide Awake is a decent kid movie, both The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable are masterpieces, Sings is a good thriller partially spoiled by it's ambiguous ending, The Village is a good and underrated movie, The Lady In The Water is a mediocre fairy tail movie with some absurd moments, both The Happening and The Last Airbender are horrible movies, After Earth is a boring bad sci-fi flick, The Visit is a good comedy-horror movie and Split is surprisingly a top-notch thriller. 7 good or awesome movies vs 3 bad movies and 1 mediocre flick don't make Shyamalan a bad director, dude.
InsomniacHS Good movies:
Split
Great Movies:
The Sixth Sense
Unbreakable
Bad Movies:
The Village
The Visit
Pretty Bad Movies:
Wide Awake
Praying with Anger
Horrible Movies:
Signs
Worst Movies of All Time:
The Last Airbender
The Happening
Lady In The Water
After Earth
Film Count:
1 Good, 2 Great, 2 Bad, 2 Pretty Bad, 1 Horrible, And 4 Of The Worst Movies Ever Made.
I would agree with you, if your taste of your films would be a normal or if you knew at least something about movies. Maybe I generalized the Shyamalan's movies, but you generalized his movies with an ignorance.
InsomniacHS "with an ignorance" Wow. I know I am dealing with retards now.
Joel Schumacher did a lot of excellent movies: The Lost Boys, Flatliners, Falling Down, The Client, A Time to Kill, 8mm. His problem is that the dark parts of Batman Forever were axed by the producers (The Goofy parts were influenced by 60's Batman and let's admit Buton's Batman films had their share of goofiness as well) and he went all 60's Batman's with Batman & Robin, and it was a disaster.
At least Batman Forever/& Robin are fun. Batman Fanboys cannot take it, but I don't care.
M. Night's The Village and Unbreakable are also good.
Signs is pretty good
The village and signs were meh. But, Unbreakable was an art
WHAT, a film call the rock didn't star Dwayne "the rock" Johnson
jack lloyd Unfortunately, Rocky Maivia was still a rising star in the WWF when that movie came out. I'm sure he'll be in the sequel if they ever make one. Signed,
KG
I guess Michael Bay made Pain & Gain with The Rock to make up for that
Jesus Christ, Marie
jack lloyd They clearly didn't know "WHAT THE ROCK… IS COOKIN'!".
jack lloyd because... the rock on that film is the alcatraz prison?
TOP 10 good performances by bad actors
Adam Sandler in.Punch-Drunk-Love at #1
Good suggestion. And yes, Sandler's 'Punch Drunk Love' should be included (although, 'Funny People' is a close runner-up), but my vote for #1 would HAVE to go to Sly Stallone for the original 'Rocky.' Also, I'd include Mickey Rourke for 'The Wrestler,' and Christian Slater for 'True Romance.'
Johnny Skinwalker
Yeah, that's a valid point. He did do some great stuff in the 80s. He had faded into semi-obscurity before 'The Wrestler,' and kind of came out of nowhere to deliver a powerhouse performance...but you're absolutely right. I withdraw that nomination.
Stallone is arguable, too...I mean, *is* he technically a bad actor? Or how about Arnold? it's all very, very subjective, of course.
MrDunedon Not to forget Kevin James for King of Queens, Marlon Wayans for Requiem For A Dream, Eli Roth for Inglourious Basterds, Kristen Stewart for Still Alice, Eddie Murphy for Dreamgirls & of course Tommy Wiseau for The Room
ChrosTV
Tommy Wiseau for the win. ;-)
Name any good movie by Wachowski sliblings, aside of Matrix... please....
Innersoulwithinme Cloud Atlas
V for Vendetta.
Speed Racer and calling The Matrix's Reloaded and Revolutions bad, is a way over exaggeration.
Goggalor1990 They didn't direct V For Vendetta. . .only wrote it.
MJosephB Speed Racer is god awful and the Matrix sequels were a disappointment. Reloaded has one amazing highway scene and the rest of the movie is forgettable. Revolutions is terrible. ***** they also produced it.
I think argument can be made that The Matrix was a good movie by bad directors.
+Tal Moore definitely
Not really. They still got the magic. It's just that Matrix managed to hide it's eccentricity well enough, while Jupiter Ascending didn't care to.
Just look at Matrix Revolutions ending. Too unconventional for a blockbuster, and the people left in confusion.
The warkowski's are more talented in tv and they deserve the top spot ...y'all seen speed racer?🙈🙉🙊
Bound is also a fucking masterpiece from the Wachovskis.
Nah, they're more of a hit or miss duo. The Matrix and V for Vendetta were great. The Matrix sequels, Cloud Atlas, and Speed Racer are pretty divisive. Jupiter Ascending is just...
...bad.
Soldier is actually underrated IMO.
+Maximillianrex Carpediem YES! It's so different, but still totally badass and fun!
Yeah and Pandorum.
Maximillianrex Carpediem It is on my guilty pleasure list.
i have an idea for a top 10: Top 10 Good directors making bad movies with good actors but bad acting but good sound effects but bad video effects but good plot but bad scenery
Do it :D
How much for the drugs ur on?
Denis Kartachov Top 10 good movies with bad sountrack, good sountrack in bad movies, good movies with awful comstumes, bad movies with awesome constumes, good movies with bad camera, bad movies with good camera...
Boy, watchmojo have unlimitied source of stupid top 10s.
Tim Burtons alice in wonderland!.. I give you the remaining 9 later
Watch Mojo has done every list possible soon so don't be too suprised if this becomes a video.
Am I the only one who thinks M. Night Shyamalamadingdong's best work was Unbreakable? I mean the Sixth Sense was good and all but I think it's pretty overrated...Unbreakable was just fantastic and it's very underrated too. Everything from the performances (especially Samuel L. Jackson) to the score and even to the plot twist was just excellent.
Count me in as one who agrees with you. Really enjoyed 'Unbreakable' -- and, unlike 'Sixth Sense,' it can actually be enjoyed for more than one viewing.
Unbreakable>sixth sense
No his best dilm is the last airbender lol no jk i hate that movie with a passion
I love Unbreakable.
C. Pasta I'm with you. I've only seen that and the movie we don't talk about.
Ah C'mon!!!! Joel isn't a bad director. Sure he made one of the worst comic book movies ever. But he also made Lost boys. Flatliners. Phone Booth. The dude is freakin awesome. You gotta blame freakin Warner Bros for the Batman & Robin atrocity.
I think M. night is alright, he obviously is attracted to plot twists, which are hard to make. Split was his comeback imo
Pandorum is fucking awesome. Admittedly, once you have watched it once, much of the tension is reduced but still it is a great fit with a great ending.
Irvin Kershner was a respected director of small character driven dramas. That's why he was chosen to direct the Empire Strikes Back. He shouldn't even be on this list.
Donnie Darko is one of my favorite movies of all time.
M.NIGHT's GOOD FILMS
SIGNS
UNBREAKABLE
THE 6th SENSE
THE VISIT
SCHUMACHER's GOOD FILMS
PHONE BOOTH
LOST BOYS
ST. ELMO's FIRE
FLATLINERS
FALLING DOWN
VERONICA GUERIN
TIGERLAND
+Chris Rembert Don't forget Batman & Robin
+Chris Rembert Unbreakable: you got to be kidding!
+Chris Rembert Time to kill for Schumacher
You are forgetting A Time to Kill by Joel Schumacher. That was a Brilliant Film.
Chris Rembert EHM.. SPLIT
"The Island" ft. Ewan McGregor and Scarlett Johansson was pretty damn good and it was directed by Michael Bay.
i love that movie!
Why is Pandorum considered bad? It blended visceral violence, the howling horror of empty space, and the descent of man to a subhuman form...just like Event Horizon.
Right! Pandorum was a really good science fiction film. It was way better than event horizon.
+Floyd Palmer Yeah, I was surprised by the commentary, I mean: "produced single tears of horrors". Pandorum is a lot better than Event Horizon actually.
+Justin Flack I have to disagree with you guys. Event Horizon was superior to Pandorum, deeper, more interesting characters, better chemistry between the actors... But I'll defend Pandorum as a good film too. Less psychological horror, more viscera but still, the plot worked well and the ending was great.
Yeah, these are certainly the most crucial attributes that make a film great................ NOT!!!!
I also think Event Horizon is the better movie but there is nothing wrong with Pandorum. They're both good.
Pandorum wasn't bad.
I liked pandorum too
Mike Fitch I mean, it came out the same week as surrogates and I remember having a really fun time watching Pandorum!
And it had Daryl Dixon in it.
*****
Pandorum was an excellent sci-fi flick! I have no idea what WatchMojo was on about there...
***** Its got some good stuff in it, but it falls apart in a lot of ways. Quaid is terrible in it.
All these directors did good ones before and after the ones mentioned. The only Joel Schumacher movie I didn't like was 8mm because of the subject matter, but I liked how he kept the mood very dark and moody, and not lighthearted. With Michael Bay, Armageddon was good, but somewhat overrated, and the Transformers sequels could've been worse. Event Horizon and Pandorum had similar storylines, but both good on their own. Independance Day by Roland Emmerich, Stargate wasn't a favorite, Universal Soldier was good as were some of his disaster ones, cheesy or not. M. Night Shylaman hasn't done many bad ones to me, but the Happening was very abstract. Jan DeBont of Speed, after Twister and even The Haunting, could still come up with some new stuff. One last thing about J S, the first movie I saw by him was FlatLiners, at a very young age, I liked it, but the sexual content and language was somewhat overdone, though by today's standards it was seem rather tame. But these are my opinions...
Am I the only one who liked Pandorum?
Shamalayn directed unbreakable, which is an underrated masterpiece
Peter Segal - Tommy Boy.....
I love Tommy Boy and I looked up Segal's filmography....he's done a lot of good stuff, familiar movies....but yeah...he fell off after Tommy Boy.
Why so much hate for M. Night Shyamalan? The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, Signs (up until the last few minutes), the Village and Lady in the Water were all pretty good movies.
patch0file Agreed!!! It was Airbender and Happening that sucked XP NEVER fully got why people hated the Village. If you watch it as a drama instead of a horror it's a really good movie! =)
Not trying to defend Brett ratner cause he did direct some awful movies but he did do rush hour and horrible bosses
ikamts2 He didn't do Horrible Bosses...
Luke Ellis he produced it. yes but i count that as a win for him
Rush Hour is ok, its like bottom tier for Jackie Chan tho. Horrible Bosses sucks. Ratner should be put on trial for how bad X-Men 3 is.
Brandon Hudson and a time travel
I thought "Tower Heist" was a slick movie that didn't get the attention it deserved.
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1) Andrew Davis is an awesome example; because The Fugitive has always been a favorite of mine, but the dude hasn't done anything interesting besides this one. 2) Pandorum isn't a bad movie. 3) The Box was a failure but was nonetheless very interesting. 4) Schumacher also did Flatliners and Tigerland, so his case isn't that simple. 5) Red Dragon was a bad movie, a lot closer to Hannibal than Manhunter or Silence of the Lambs. 6) Totally agree about The Rock, the only really awesome movie that Bay directed. 7) Unbreakable is better than Sixth Sense, which is essentially remembered for its final twist.
I liked Pandorum... It captured what I like in certain films and animation that take place beyond earth's atmosphere; that "cold, dark, and alone" feeling. I experienced a rare and distinct sense of tension and suspense from that movie.
10. Good Director: Happy Gilmore
Bad Director: Jack and Jill, Grown-Ups 2, and many more
9. Good Director: The Fugitive
Bad Director: Unknown?
8. Good Director: Event Horizon (I Love That Movie)
Bad Director: More Resident Evil Series
7. Good Director: Speed
Bad Director: Speed 2 & The Haunting
6. Good Director: Donnie Darko
Bad Director: Southland Tales
5. Good Director: Independence Day
Bad Director: More Disaster Movies
4. Good Director: Falling Down, The Lost Boys, and Phone Booth
Bad Director: Batman & Robin
3. Good Director: Rush Hour, The Family Man, and Red Dragon
Bad Director: X-Men 3, Rush Hour 3, and Hercules
2. Good Director: The Rock
Bad Director: Transformers sequels
1. Good Director: The Sixth Sense & Unbreakable
Bad Director: The Happening, The Last Airbender, and After Earth
Here's my top 10 bad directors did good movies:
10. 500 Days of Summer, Directed by Marc Webb (His Bad Endorsement of The Amazing Spider-Man 2)
9. Pretty Woman, Directed by Garry Marshall (His Bad Endorsement of The Princess Diaries, Georgia's Rule, Valentine's Day, and New Year's Eve)
8. Pineapple Express, Directed by David Gordon Green (His Bad Endorsement of Your Highness & The Sitter)
7. Thirteen & Lords of Dogtown, Directed by Catherine Hardwicke (Her Bad Endorsement of Twilight & Red Riding Hood)
6. Scary Movie, Directed by Keenan Ivory Wayans (His Bad Endorsement of Scary Movie 2, White Chicks, and Little Man)
5. The Devil Rejects, Directed by Rob Zombie (His Bad Endorsement of Two Halloween Remakes)
4. The Wedding Singer, Directed by Frank Capra (His Bad Endorsement of The Waterboy, Click, Zookeeper, and Blended)
3. Mean Girls, Directed by Mark Walters (His Bad Endorsement of Ghost of Girlfriend's Past, Mr. Popper's Penguins, and Vampire Academy)
2. The Fast and the Furious, Directed by Rob Cohen (His Bad Endorsement of The Mummy 3, Alex Cross, and The Boy Next Door)
and...
1. The Matrix, Directed by The Wachowski Brothers (Their Bad Endorsement of The Matrix Revolutions, Speed Racer, and Jupiter Ascending)
Felipe Rico Signs was good why no mention of that? Stargate was cool from the guy who did Ind Day.
Felipe Rico Click was good,Wedding Singer was crap however.
Even Quentin Tarantino says Unbreakable was considered to be a "Masterpiece"
Felipe Rico Yeah Click's in a completely different league to Waterboy and Zookeeper. The ad makes it look horrible but it's really not bad at all.
The clicking sound when the WM logo pops up is really annoying.
Yeah.
I honestly prefer it to the mediocre graphics before.
"Postal" - Uwe Boll. It was a total mess, sure but it had some genuinely funny moments (intentional or not, I'm unsure), decent acting, decent action scenes. I think it captured the spirit of the source material very well and IMO it's very watchable.
I absolutely don't understand Schumacher's inclusion. I'd rather call him 'inconsistent', but definitely not bad overall. And I'd also shy away from using the two Batman films he did as examples since like almost everybody knows, obviously apart from WatchMojo, that the studio is the main candidate to be blamed and Joel acted in those two instances more as a director for hire, though he certainly also could not go away from this with a clean slate. Apart from Falling Down, which is one of my most favourite films of all time, he also did Tigerland, The Client, A Time to Kill, Phone Booth, 8mm, The Lost Boys, all great films. Plus Flatliners, Flawless and Veronica Guerin were decent. This sounds like more than enough to me.
Joel Schumacher also directed The Lost Boys, one of the real great horror comedies. Give him a break!
Making a wholly inferiorr copy of Michael Mann's Manhunter (with a much bigger budget) should not get you on this list.
+Snowflake Pillow you mean Red Dragon?
Yeah, that's what I'm referring to.
Michael Bay made some good movies like:
Bad Boys
The Island
Bad Boys 2
Transformers 2007
Michael Bay gets hated on for no reason. Just becasue you're not into his movies doesn't mean he's a bad director. A bad director is simply someone who doesn't know how to direct
Like Michael Bay?
***** He doesnt have a ton of bad movies.
***** Yeah, the fact that he achieve over US$ 5 billions in revenue with less than 10 movies, while most "Oscar winners" never achieved US$ 1 billion in their entire careers shows how bad Michael Bay is.
***** Thats really subjective
Have you seen Transformers 2-4? Pearl Harbor? The Island?
I know grease was a big hit but for me my eyes and ears were bleeding after watching it. God that movie/musical sucked.
I hated it!!
@@Trund27 I liked the Creased Lightning, that was a beautiful 1948 Ford
Irving Kershner is a better director than George Lucas...
+Andre D'Arisbo That may well be true, but he got very lucky with Empire. If you listen to his audio commentary it does seem as though most of the best bits came about more by accident, rather than by design.
+Denni Bryant but he do also never sey never and robocop 2
Kacpecx Fghcdj I'm pretty sure citing Robocop 2 is actually strengthening my argument.
+Andre D'Arisbo My 16-year-old dog is a better director than Lucas. His first feature is due out this summer, it's called "I Ate Daddy's Nikes And He Still Loves Me."
The critics are all agog.
Which one is a two-time Oscar nominee for best director again?
What about a "Top 10 Film Posters"? :D
Jona de Bona We have Top 10 Sci-fi Movie Posters in the works.Signed,
KG
WatchMojo.com Nice! Thanks for the reply, love your vids! :D
Omg I read that wrong I thought you said "Top 10 Pornstars" XD
Alyssia LaChance yeah you read that because you want to see that don't you?
Jona de Bona Wow, you're so clever.
Schumacher and Bay aren't bad directors, both have missed the mark at times but both have also made several good flicks.
Event Horizon. ^_^ Not a huge film but I loved it. I really, really did. It was scary in a whole different way than you see in a lot of sci-fi horrors. Pandorum was another great one nobody really knows about. :)
My List :
Andrew Davis - Under Siege (1992),
Paul W.S. Anderson - Shopping (1994),
Joel Schumacher - Phone Booth (2002),
Renny Harlin - Mindhunters (2004),
Brett Ratner - X Men the Last Stand (2006),
Michael Bay - Pain & Gain (2013) and MCG - 3 Days to Kill (2014).
M Night Shamalyn go back too your roots please i beg of you
1. The Sixth Sense - 7/10
2. Unbreakable - 9/10
3. Signs - 6.5/10
The Sixth Sense, Signs, The Visit, Devil, After Earth...
I disagree with this video, M. Night Shyamalan is definitely NOT a poor director. His problem is that he couldn't top The Sixth Sense. Critics seem to unfairly compare ALL of his movies to his ghost masterpiece. I also didn't find "The Happening"to be the big disaster people claim it was. I thought it was rather inventive. Even "Unbreakable" has a solid following and has been called genius for it's originality. Critics, in my opinion, are what kills a lot of M. Night's box office success.
After Earth was shit along with the last Airbender The happening the village and devil M Night Shyamalan made one above-average film 17 years ago😂😂
After Earth was shit along with the last Airbender The happening the village and devil M Night Shyamalan made one above-average film 17 years ago😂😂
Totally disagree Bro, I've seen a lot worse. Even if you did not care for his storyline, subject matter, or genre, M Night's direction is tight and his movies move along in a cohesive story telling fashion. Though he stays within the genre of Sc-Fi, Fantasy and Horror, he can also direct comedic moments which most directors will tell you is difficult. He can create moments of horror or awe or unbearable suspense. Again- whether you like his finished product or not, he is a talented Director and should not be on this list.
+MAP Agree to disagree I suppose that at the end of the day it's really subjective but I have to say if you make a shit fest like After Earth and The Last Airbender I'm sorry but I can't call you a good Director
I want to know why Stephen Hopkins is not on the list. He took great opportunities like Lost in Space, Blown Away, The Ghost and the Darkness, The Reaping and Predator 2 and turned them into a Bore-fest. Particularly The Ghost and the Darkness which is a true story and could have been an awesome movie.
Or Michael Bay who directs such ham-handed choreographed scenes. Especially intimate or romantic material that leaves any normal adult cringing or blushing with embarrassment. Like his many eye-rolling moments in Armageddon, such as-
After the US being responsible for blowing up the Russian space station early in the film, by the end, we see Russian's waving American flags.
Or Ben Affleck toying with Liv Tyler's bra while singing "I'm leaving on a jet plain" as she balls her eyes out in an embarrassingly bad scene.
Or the Lady who tells her kids that the man at the door is a salesman. Then 10 minutes later, when she finds that the man is going to try and stop the meteor, tell's her children "That man is no salesman - that's your daddy"
Both of these action Directors incorporate multi angle, fast cuts into their films, most of which leave the viewer not knowing what the hell is going on on-screen. These cheap editing tricks are suppose suffice as action. I guess the old saying is true; If you can't dazzle then with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
The crime is that these "Directors" have been richly rewarded for their efforts and are highly regarded even though M. Night Shyamalan is twice the director they are.
The Deer Hunter should've been on this list. It's a classic, but Michael Cimino was a K-Mart director.
Why is Joel Schumacher on here?
yes...he has made some wanky films, but he has made many good films as well.
Lost Boys! Frak anyone who speaks ill of the 'Macher!
Batman & Robin is quite fun if you forgive some of the dialogue and embrace the weirdness of it all.
I wouldn't call Shamalyn or Shumacher bad directors. Just mixed, Shamalayn has The Sixth Sense, Signs, Unbrakable, The Visit and Split, while Shumacher has The Lost Boys, Falling Down, Phone Booth and A Time To Kill
Of all the movies I've seen from M.Night Shyamalan, I had to say that the main problem of some are the "twist plot" But Shyamalan direction it's always so good, even when the movie is not as good as we want.
When they said Paul W.S. Anderson at first I was thinking of Paul THOMAS Anderson and I was like "What?! He's a great director" XD
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What!? i cant do it!!
***** Never.
Joel Shulmucker has the same amount of good movies as Francis Ford Coppola
The Lost Boys
Phone Booth
A Time to Kill
8mm
Tigerland
Falling Down
He's not really a terrible director he just did 2 horrible Batman movies and a couple of mediocre movies later on.
i agree all those you listed are pretty good
DreDaDon__ yeah, but comparing him to Coppola :D:D:D single Godfather movie is WAY better than all of this movies combined....
Good movies by bad directors in my opinion.
5. Inception- Christoph Nolan
4. Deep Blue sea- Renny Harlin
3. Red Corner- Jon Avent
2. Clover field- JJ Abrams
1. Jeannot Szwarc- Jaws 2
"Directors Who Quickly Lost Their Mojo" would have been a better title for this video.
If that was the case, it wouldn't have specific movies
Am I the only one who likes Southland Tales?
To me it's a modern day Citizen Kane , Richard Kelly is a genius.
***** Pimps don't commit suicide = Rosebud
THANK YOU I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE LOL
I saw it twice, it was decent, it like trying to be a David Lynch movie except without any profundity. It's just weird without having a real message. Or whatever message is in there is stupid.
Leonardo Mello "Boxer Santeros?" *Big smile and wave* "Hi, officer." "Get the fuck outta here."
#1 is obviously Indiana Jones 4 by Steven Spielberg. Outstanding movie by an infamously shitty director
Your attempt at trolling is awful
Outstanding is not the opposite of slightly above average.
***** No, not. Good trolling is when people don't know it's a troll. It should be controversial but subtle enough not to be obvious.
Yea but all jokes aside Spielberg is shit
Both Michael Bay and M. night shyamalan have in my opinion a 50/50 split of good/bad movies. So I think it's unfair to out them on the list. Especially since Unbreakable and The Sixth Sense are two of the best movies I have ever seen...
Def make another top ten bc there are more surprisingly
Michael Bay (Bad Boys 1, 2, or armageddon)
M Night (Unbreakable or Signs)
Joel Schumacher (Phone Booth, Lost Boys, Tigerland, or A Time to Kill)
Renny Harlin (Die Hard 2 or Cliffhanger)
Dennis Dugan (Big Daddy)
Roland Emmerich (The Patriot)
That's all I can think of at the top of my head
wildinthestreets101 I liked the first transformers movie
Bay ain´t a bad director, he gives pepole what they want. it might not be the most inteligent and well made. but it works.
+Exploatores Michael Bay is a very good director who intentionally makes very bad movies because he likes making films for teenage boys.
Kyle O'Bryan A director can go overboard on the art intelectual stuff, make Movies that are shown only on a handfull artfilm festivals around the World. Is the art of making a Movie to entertaine the public or a few hippsters.
+Exploatores The art of making a movie is to stay true to yourself. I like Tarantino's look on it in an interview. "I make movies that I would like to go see in the theater". That's not the exact quote but it's something down that line.
MrPinbert
then i gues we know what Michael Bay wants to see at the theater
Exploatores I geus that could be. Although some quotes from interviews might suggest otherwise. like one of his responses to critical backlash: "I make movies for 13 year old boys...what a crime".
However it is not up to me of course to tell him what to do, even if I don't like his movies. I would rather life in a world where filmmakers can make whatever they want to make instead of being forced to make a particular type of movie just because people tell them to.
Cinematic swag?
Seriously what the hell was that?
Justin Fung
swag
swaɡ/
noun
noun: swag
1.
a curtain or piece of fabric fastened so as to hang in a drooping curve.
a decorative garland or chain of flowers, foliage, or fruit fastened so as to hang in a drooping curve.
plural noun: swags
"swags of holly and mistletoe"
a carved or painted representation of a swag of flowers, foliage, or fruit.
"fine plaster swags"
2.
informal
money or goods taken by a thief or burglar.
"their homes offer tempting swag for burglars"
So either a cinematic curtain or piece of fabric, or cinematic stolen money.
I see Jake Gyllenhaal in the thumbnail, I click.
It's very unfair calling Shyamalan a bad director after directing films ligh Unbreakable, The Village or Sings... he's got bad films, but the good ones are really top!
Shyamalan has made 2 great movies: 6th Sense and Unbreakable. 4 Decent ones: Signs, wide awake, the Village, the Visit. The rest of his filmography sucks. The Last Airbender and The Happening are particularly terrible. I'd still watch his movies over any of Michael Bay's crap, though. That clown is to good films what Justin Bieber is to good music, and The Rock is a dime a dozen popcorn movie, just because it's better than the rest of Bay's shallow trash doesn't make it a great film.
+vance astrovik Man, people get so upset about commercial stuff like Bay and Bieber. It's not made for film/music fans, that's like somebody who's on a healthy diet getting upset that Oreos exist.
I put signs up there with unbreakable and sixth sense
vance astrovik Yeah Shyamalan is a good filmmaker, overall. He's only made a few bad films. He's even admitted to it. I am excited for Split, though.
M night shyamalan is about 50/50 I liked the 6th sense, unbreakable, and signs, the visit and split were okay but devil, the village, the last airbender, lady in the lake and the happening were an insult. it's not that his directing is all that bad but a lot of the screenplay are just plain shit and since he does that too its his own fault.
He's overral a good director.
I'm very please that 'The Rock' made the list. I fucking love that movie.
Independence Day is not a good film
ChrosTV It may not be good, but it IS a fun and entertaining film.
"Films that are generally considered to good, either through their mix of popularity, critical, or commercial success."
Independence Day was popular and had a commercial success, therefore, it's in the list; whether you consider it good or not.
***** So comedy movies are not good?
ChrosTV it would've failed without Will Smith
Agreed. I saw it again recently and I thought it was a lame movie.
I haven't seen the video yet, but I'm betting the Sixth Sense is number one.
Can I call it or what?
Yup.
Paul Anderson, you son of a bitch, you ruined The Three Musketeers -_- Joel Schoemaker, you son of a bitch, you ruined Batman -_- Brett Ratner, you son of a bitch, you ruined X-Men -_-
+Thomas Baron Totally, dude! haha...especially Batman! To this day, I personally think Tim Burton's original two Batman's were the best Bat-flicks ever. I hate it when people associate Joel Schoemaker's two bat films with Burton's. The only things which the 4 of those movies had in common were Michael Gough's Alfred, and Pat Hingle's Gorden. EVERYTHING else (short of the WB logo) was different.
They were in fact two different series's with two different directors with two different visions, cast, crews, and inspirations: Burton's original two were based on the original dark and Gothic comic-books; whereas Schoemaker's follow-up two were based on the campy TV-show of the 1960's.
Batman (1989) and Batman Returns (1992) were comic-book masterpieces with an homage being paid to the 'film noire' of the 1940's as well as Burton's flare of the dark, gritty depressive, and creepy-mystical almost subtly fantastical elements mixed into gloomy everyday realism (which these attributes in particular was expounded upon in Chris Nolan's realism of his Dark Knight Trilogy many years later). With Danny Elfman's masterful music score, Michael Keaton's perfect casting as Batman/Bruce Wayne, The supporting cast for these 2 motion pictures, the crew...etc., and the perfect balance between dark fantasy and gritty realism, Tim Burton's original two comic-book hero feature films are the greatest Batman movies ever made.
Batman Forever (1995) and Batman & Robin (1997) are major comic-book failures, even if they were just paying homage to 1960's camp or cartoons.The only really good or arguably 'cool' thing to take away from those 2 movies was Jim Carey's Riddler. I admit that I am a big fan of Carey's humor, but here even his twisted embodyment of Edward Nygma was nearly perfect; especialy' for that type of film. Everything else about those 2 films sucked (for lack of a better insult, ha).
AftermathRebel yes, I do believe Tim Burton did it right! Schomaker even admitted in an interview that he made it more kid friendly to sell toys. he turned Batman into a sales pitch :P Tim Burton's Batman films along with Danny Elfman's score were perfect. since Schoemaker killed it, I couldn't stand Batman movies. thank the gods for Christopher Nolan.
Uh Paul W.S Anderson directed and written other franchise and oldies that are butchered like Resident Evil, Alien vs Predator, a Death Race remake with his highest rating on Rotten Tomato at 46%, and he still gets work and hasn't done anything original since Soldier starring Kurt Russell but he directed some decent films like Mortal Kombat which everybody likes, Event Horizon which has a cult following that influence many horror movies and games like Dead Space, and the first Resident Evil movie which was okay but the sequels are crap and Afterlife is the worst.
Thomas Baron Yeah my profile picture haha.
22martinez1 O_O
Don't forget Michael Bay also did The Island which was decently good. Also The Village by M. Night Shyamalan was pretty good too.
“The Killing Fields” by Roland Joffe. What a absolute masterpiece. Too bad his body of work is nowhere near that level now.
I think shyamalan is really harshly maligned. I've seen this criticism of signs, and even if true about the water plot hole, it's still SO watchable, come on! Plus, is it such a bad plot hole?? Loads of alien films talk about how the alien's world is dying and they're desperate for a new home. Maybe they know water is bad for them but they have to come here anyway. They stay away from water (says it in the film) and they try to take over in a surprise attack, probably trying to avoid the water problem...
Anyway, that aside, the village was also good and beautifully shot, in my opinion; i know many others didn't feel the same, i just think people were getting sick of his twist shtick, which is fair enough, but there's a lot else to like about that film.
And there is unbreakable, which i think is a massively underrated film, and possibly one of the best comic book related films ever made. And I know I'm not the only one. Seen a few articles (in 'respected' magazines/websites,) since the marvel takeover of the cinemas, saying that unbreakable is the counterpoint to that, the thinking man's comic/superhero film.
Sure, he's done some bad films, but holding him up as a "bad director" when he's done some really good/great films is too much, in my opinion...
LKeet6 well the aliens in Signs aren't even really aliens, they're just representations of demons that haunt Graham and his family. That's why the movie is told from that one family's perspective.
@@evannesbitt7852 so it was holy water
Red Dragon was crap compared to Manhunter ...
+pianoandkeys Red Dragon was crap. Period.
NO
Shut the fuck up bitch Red Dragon>>>>>>>>>>>Manhunter
They are nearly the damn movie. Anthony Hopkins gives Red Dragon the edge
Red dragon is a reallt good movie
Soldier and Pandorum were both good movies. Not great by any means but still good. Paul W. S. Anderson is not a bad director,
The Fugitive is a fantastically well-directed movie. The performances of Ford and Jones rank among the absolute best of their careers. It's hard to accept the idea that Davis is a "bad director," when there might be a lot more involved in his later work-- the producer, for example. "Holes" was a pretty convincing comedy, too, and all of the performances in that were enjoyable.
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The way she says ‘explosions’ is really funny.
if independence day was a good movie, then day after tomorrow, godzilla and 2012 can be considered equivalent as well.
Emmerich also directed Stargate.
Where's Sandstorm by Darude?
idk
Because it's not a movie.... It's a way of life
William Mcmeekin Thank you for knowing that.
Shut the fuck up.
I don't know about M.Night Shyamalan ...
I thought Unbreakable and The Village were pretty good.
+bullsquid42 I think The Sixth Sense is a masterpiece, and Signs, The Village, and Unbreakable are good. But that's where his good movies end for me, because the rest is just a load of crap.
to call somebody, who made a movie people liked, "bad" is an extremely bold statement... Nobody without talent could pull it off and it got absolutely nothing to do with luck.
Who put Irvin Kershner on here? Hoodlum Priest, Eyes of Laura Mars, The Empire Strikes Back, Never Say Never Again, Robocop 2? Hardly a bad director, just unknown.
Roland Emmerich directed The Patriot which was incredible. Better than Independence Day.
I knew all along that "The Sixth Sense" was going to be #1
And I'm sorry, Independance Day might be entertaining to some, but it's still a piece of shit movie
+Alberto de Tena Rojas Independence Day is a rare case of a Good piece of shit movie.
+Thiago Consolaro I guess to us europeans that don't get independance day (as in, the holiday) it's just a peace of shit
+Alberto de Tena Rojas As a Canadian, I concur. I am not swayed by cartoony American patriotism.
+Raven Zeitemann I'm glad to see I'm not alone here. It's a really bad movie and I can't believe it's getting a second part. I agree with The Rock being a decent movie by a horrible director (fuck you Michael Bay) but Independance Day is just pure American patriotism that would make anyone with half a brain cringe.
I think people consider Independence Day as a good movie because 1) Will Smith, 2) Jeff Goldblum, and 3) Bill Pullman. It wasn't afraid to blow stuff up as well, but the above three actors had charisma. I actually didn't like Will Smith in ID4, I cannot stand him in his machismo, uber-testosterony mode, but a number of folks did, so... some of the effects work in ID4 were great, but the explosions.. the explosions were bad. Even for 1996 special effects, those were bad bad fire effects. They tried to use some fractal effects to create fire, and it was definitely not ready for prime time.
Richard Kellys movies are great and M. Night Shyamalan... he's is the best horrormovie director of them all. The only bad movie I know is The last Airbender but this was another genre as well. In horror he's the unbeaten king!
+Conrad Schmidt As proven by how scary he made wind in The Happening, right?
And did you even see Southland Tales? That movie is really bad.
outsidelookinginprod I never get why everybody think that The Happening is a horrormovie, because it's not! It's an disaster movie just like The Day After Tomorrow or sth like that. And for a disaster movie it was scary. And yes I saw Southland Tales and it's trashy but I liked it. It wasn't logical or sth but it was fun to watch.
Joel Schumacher isn’t a bad director. He's only hated for the two awful Batman movies he made. He has quite a few good action movies under his belt.
Did anyone else notice the wires on the actor at 8:38? :P
Should we care?
Michael Bay's Pain and Gain was also pretty great.
Batman & Robin isn't a horrible movie at all. And Michael Bay has directed many great movies, like Bad Boys I & II.
Thebestbuddy1986 that just sounds racist bad boys 1&2 is far superior than Batman and robin ...which is considered one of the worst films ever made...i saw it as a kid and hated it!!
Joel Schumacher made one REALLY bad movie, but has made several great movies. He doesn't deserve to be here.
Ans: I dont agree with your list. How could Shyamalan be bad director? He has just failed. He has made some unforgettable movies. Other directors too are fascinated with him.
I blame Batman & Robin on Warner Bros. Joel didn't get all the creative control he wanted. He actually wanted to do a Batman: Year One & Batman Beyond film but Warner Bros wanted a campier film because it was easy to market