Already did this 5 months ago with two 2500's of them and they still running strong. Ultegras are great for the price. Add Carbontex and they are awesome. 😊
In the description you listed Non-Handle Side Bearing (RD13274 or 7x11x3). In the video you talked about two worm bearings and two handel bearing. There is no mention of RD13274?
What's the point of upgrading to ball bearings if you're gonna gum them up with grease? A tiny drop of oil is all you need to keep them running smooth.
Awesome review and practical explanation! I just wonder which reel I suppose to tackle in between stradic and ultegra? Any recommendations? Thanks in advance
Hola. Me gustaría también saber las medidas de los rodamiento. El de la parte inferior lo indica. Necesitaría el superior y los de la manivela, aunque son iguales. Has podido saber las medidas?, si es asi, por favor me lo podrias decir. Gracias y saludos.
@@WestCoastFloridaFishing I agree. The Ultegra is just one step down from the Stradic. Not as smooth or refined but still excellent. It's worth upgrading to all bearings if you can. Now the Stradics are VERY worth upgrading to all bearings. I have the FL and Stella's. They are SO very close. 😉
Did you take apart the oscillating paw ? Can a bearing be put there? Also for fresh water, the bail can accomodate 2 bearings without the bushings, etc. Theoretically, you can add 2 additional bearings in addition to the ones you added. Also the Complex XR F4 is noisier than I expected. Thanks, Doc
Not sure you can add a bearing to oscilliating paw. Stella use a different bushing, spacer, and bearing goes on/in to that bushing. It might be possible if you also buy a stella bushing but it might not fit at all.
i took the bail out to clean the inside because sand got inside and when I took it apart there is a spring on the side without the line roller pop out where does it go? been looking for a video that shows how to fix or replace the bail for the ultegra but couldnt find any help!!!
Hello dear frien, Can i make the same bearing reference for a SHIMANO ULTEGRA FC 4000XG ? And can you please make a video for how to clean and maintain it from salt water ? Thank you
Hey I’m looking at getting a 4,000 or 5,000 reel unsure which size and not sure what reel to get either this 1 or the stradic or the saragossa or the daiwa bg mq. Any advice would be great.
I would like to ASSUME you would need whatever size reel you are trying to upgrade,per say like look up the replacement bearings for a 4000 Stradic if you are upgrading a 4000 Ultegra and so on.
I still can't wait to get my hands on one even though I don't need it right now. This thing is like a Penn Battle III tier improvement over the previous gen. Is the worm gear also a change from last gen? I have never had an Ultegra.
Hey, great video. Thank you. Today I got Ultegra C3000HG (2021 version). Is it normal to feel micro movement in the reels handle at the rate every 2nd circle it travels a circle? Or is that a reel defect and i should replace with another Ultegra reel? Hope for your reply, cheers.
What's the difference between the "HG" model and the "FC" model of that reel? Anyway, is that Shimano reel grease good to be used for all of the internal parts of the reel and is good for other brands of reels as well?
I know the HG Model is the High Gear model but not sure about the FC other than Far Cast? Maybe? I use that grease for all of my reel parts! Great stuff!
Worm gear front bearing 2x5x2.5 RD11578 Worm gear rear bearing 3x6x2.5 RD11018 Handle bearings 4x7x2.5 RD13269 Not sure why RD13274 is listed there because it is the spool shaft bearing of stella and not possible fit to ultegra as far as I know.
I was going to get an FK but since people are asking the same as new,even with a new rendition of the Stradic out already,I am going to get an Ultegra 4000. Have you found any upgrades you can make to the new Nasci or Fuego LT ? So far for the Fuego all I see is the line roller bushing to bearing,and 2 bearings to the knob. But I am scared to open the reel and mess with it since its MagSealed.
Being able to open the reel body without messing with the anti reverse clutch is HUGE..!! Exploding one of those is NOT fun. Tell me what the new Ultegra feels like with added bearings. A Stradic for $50 less???
It was a HUGE find that I had!!!! It really does feel like a damn Stradic… for me I’d say I’d rather spend 50$ and get the Stradic with some of the upgrades components
Hey great vids enjoy them a lot. If you upgraded to Swiss ceramic bearings well there sick. I have them on my my.bike. Marketed by DT but made by Hugh but could be Boca. Bearings come in standard sizes so interchangeability is easy . Saw one test on a Islander Centerlpin reel spun forever. Just saying. Keep up good work
Another difference is a C2000S Stradic FL is lighter compare to 20 Ultegra size 1000 Edit: I made a mistake Stradic FL C200S is 185g. 20 Ultegra 1000 is 180g.
The only gripe I have with this reel is the weight, but that goes with the size of the reel th-cam.com/users/postUgkxM68VkfsQhHaabDce1IwOCXuvumcpbZ_k . I brought this salmon fishing up in Oswego, NY. I coupled it with a Cabela's Whuppin Stick. I had no problem pulling in a 14lb salmon. I will probably use this for surf fishing this summer and downgrade to a 3500 series Battle II next salmon season to save my wrists. All of the operations are butter smooth and the bail is nice and thick and has a solid flip to it. Everything about this reel is sturdy and strong. The drag system held up to the salmon and was also super smooth. I did use a scale to set the drag properly before going out to the river and this worked out tremendously. A bunch of other guys on the river would hook up and snap almost immediately. Just because you have a good drag system doesn't do anything if you don't set it correctly.
An Ultegra will never be a Stradic no matter how many bearings you put in it. The Stradic has a much stronger aluminum body. The Ultegra has a light body and a heavy rotor. If that was ideal that is how Snimano would have made the Sustain but it is just the opposite of the Ultegra. Instead the Sustain has an aluminum body and a light MGL rotor. Adding bearings to an Ultegra gives you something more along the lines of a sluggish Vanford with more startup inertia as the heavier rotor turns. I mean no disrespect but there are far more important differences between all Shimano reels than simply the number of bearings.
Hi ! Thank you for this very instructive video. I just order a new 2021 Shimano Ultegra 1000. Could you tell me the bearings size and/or numbers to upgrade it same four that you replace on your 2500)
JUST DID THIS UPGRADE IN THE HANDLE KNOB ON MY NEW ULTEGRA.. BUT it doesnt fit... the bearings rae the same as lineroller bearings so i took from my vanford spareparts and one more exat same... used the same schim.. but when i tighten it it doesnt go as it shoulkd... bushings are more quiet. but i want bearings in the knob .. it had to much play but my ood its so much smoother tahn fucking overrated crapford
Ayy he's back! I'm excited for this video!
Thanks for the support buddy!
Do you still have the exact details of those bearings? Inner diameter X Outer diameter X Width.
@@petcha6186 Worm gear front bearing 2x5x2.5 RD11578
Worm gear rear bearing 3x6x2.5 RD11018
Handle bearings 4x7x2.5 RD13269
Is the stradic worth the extra over the Ultegra
Already did this 5 months ago with two 2500's of them and they still running strong. Ultegras are great for the price. Add Carbontex and they are awesome. 😊
Awesome man! Luckily the 3000 already has carbon fiber drags!! Great reels!
@@WestCoastFloridaFishing Yes agreed!
@@WestCoastFloridaFishing Yes!
Wish you could also show us hot to change the line roller bearing
In the description you listed Non-Handle Side Bearing (RD13274 or 7x11x3). In the video you talked about two worm bearings and two handel bearing. There is no mention of RD13274?
Dude idk if you remember me but you’re the one who fixed my stradic drag that got melted onto the spool by a tarpon! Just found you’re channel 🤙
How could I forget that melted drag 😂😭 welcome to my channel man! I got some new videos recorded I just have to edit and upload them!
Hello, just wanted to know if you are going to do an upgrade video on the new shimano sustain fj 2500 hg when it comes out.
Yes that is 100% in the works.
@@WestCoastFloridaFishing ok thanks, I can't wait!
What's size are the worm gear bearings?
Please, can you tell me the measurements of the RD11018 and RD13269 bearings. Thanks and regards.
All measurements are located in the video description! Thanks!
This or the new nasci fc???
Ahhhhhh if you have the extra it’ll last you forever
@@WestCoastFloridaFishing ? what's extra?
@@fdsaffff like $55
What's the point of upgrading to ball bearings if you're gonna gum them up with grease? A tiny drop of oil is all you need to keep them running smooth.
Awesome review and practical explanation! I just wonder which reel I suppose to tackle in between stradic and ultegra? Any recommendations? Thanks in advance
The Stradic is still slightly better than the Ultegra in my opinion! Thanks for commenting!
Awesome Video as usual! I follow both you guys FishingLaVida and you.
Awesome thanks for the follow man!! Thanks for the nice comment as well!
Im your number 1 fan I always watch your videos
The bearings for the c5000xg are the same size?
Not all of them. Check the video description for the bearing sizes.
Son los mismo para el 2500 hg Podrías poner las medidas de cada rodamientos.muchas gracia desde españa
Hola.
Me gustaría también saber las medidas de los rodamiento. El de la parte inferior lo indica. Necesitaría el superior y los de la manivela, aunque son iguales. Has podido saber las medidas?, si es asi, por favor me lo podrias decir. Gracias y saludos.
Hey, you would not have a parts list for a 5k upgrade would you?
better stradic fl 2019 or ultegra 2021?
The better reel is definitely the Stradic FL 2019 but the ultegra 2021 is a close one!
@@WestCoastFloridaFishing I agree. The Ultegra is just one step down from the Stradic. Not as smooth or refined but still excellent. It's worth upgrading to all bearings if you can. Now the Stradics are VERY worth upgrading to all bearings. I have the FL and Stella's. They are SO very close. 😉
@@Sweetaccord Is ultegra good for big catfish?
@@miyamotomusashi692 You can use it for catfish sure.
itts a vanforsd i nside same parts or the fit another
What size is Rd11018 ??
Great video!!!thank you very much. Please can you upgrade saragosa? thank you very much .
Great video idea! Thanks for the comment!
@@WestCoastFloridaFishing Please Please do an upgrade for the 2020 saragosa swa 6000..
Did you take apart the oscillating paw ? Can a bearing be put there? Also for fresh water, the bail can accomodate 2 bearings without the bushings, etc. Theoretically, you can add 2 additional bearings in addition to the ones you added. Also the Complex XR F4 is noisier than I expected. Thanks, Doc
I did not replace the oscillating pawl. I felt it wasn’t a large enough improvement to play with. Thanks for the extra info doc!!!
Not sure you can add a bearing to oscilliating paw. Stella use a different bushing, spacer, and bearing goes on/in to that bushing. It might be possible if you also buy a stella bushing but it might not fit at all.
Can I do this to my spheros sw 4000?
He already did that one. See this video: th-cam.com/video/gntoBdnl9Yw/w-d-xo.html
Yes and like David replied I already created that video!!
@@david-iam thank you David!
How do you know what size bearings and how many you need ?
I remove the bushings and size them up with replacement bearings!
Hey bro,where can I order the bearings for ultegra 4000 also what size of bearings should I order for it
You can order them with my links in the description! They are the same bearing parts listen for the Stradic!
those parts will work for ulgerta 3000?
Where can I find the part number for the 5000 one?
I haven’t done the 5000 yet!
Would it be possible to put the woven drag from the stradic fm in this reel?
Hugi not Hugh but Enduro is another Swiss bearing as well as the skateboard brand Abec ect.
I’m a little lost? 🤔
i took the bail out to clean the inside because sand got inside and when I took it apart there is a spring on the side without the line roller pop out where does it go? been looking for a video that shows how to fix or replace the bail for the ultegra but couldnt find any help!!!
Hola.
Por favor, me puede decir las medidas del rodamiento que va alojado en la parte inferior del carrete. Gracias y saludos.
No hablo espanol! Lo seinto!
What does this upgrade contribute to the reel? Is it to make it nicer to use? More durable? Faster?
It just feels a tiny bit smoother and is a very slight upgrade and for a tiny bit of money if you like to tinker it’s worth it!
Good Work and greetings from Vienna😮
Can I bypass the anti reverse on the stradic STC5000XGFL as well, when changing the bushing, to ceramic bearings?
I believe you can to a degree, depending on what you are wanting to work on.
Hey man, just got this reel. Would you say this upgrade is worth it? How much of a difference would you say it made over the stock reel?
No. These folks just like spending extra money for no ROI.
Is it possible to replace the plastic clicker with a "metal" one?
It's there any upgrade videos for the sustain c5000 xg fj?
Hello dear frien,
Can i make the same bearing reference for a SHIMANO ULTEGRA FC 4000XG ?
And can you please make a video for how to clean and maintain it from salt water ?
Thank you
Is there any upgrades you con recommend for the new Nasci FC ?
I have a video in the works on this! Should be out very soon so stay tuned and make aure to subscribe so you can see it!
Probably the same I don’t see any difference
Thank you for this perfect video and I want to ask you which big EVA knob suitable for this reel bt install direct, not drilling?
The one that I actually put in the description for the gomexus on eBay is perfect for this reel without any drilling!
Will you do the shimano sustain 21 sa4000GX.Thank you.
which ones better the stradic or the ultegra cant figure out all these mechnaics i just go fishing
u have video for upgrade ultegra 5500xtc?if have cant i get all parts for this
Can you say why the Shimano Stradic 1000 is the same size as the Ultegra 2500 and 3000, the Shimano sizing is madness.
Can i do this with 5000 version?
Worth the wait! Would you be interested in a Complex F2000 F4 for disassembly? It is disappointing and about the same as a Vanford. Thanks Doc
I don’t know What that reel is actually! Send me some info about it!
@@WestCoastFloridaFishing Go to Digitaka and Look for Complex XR Shimano New 2021
@@WestCoastFloridaFishing I've used it several times and it is as smooth as silk!
Hey I’m looking at getting a 4,000 or 5,000 reel unsure which size and not sure what reel to get either this 1 or the stradic or the saragossa or the daiwa bg mq. Any advice would be great.
Hi can the ULTEGRA 4000 fit this bearing? or should i get the bearing for the STRADIC 4000?
Thank you. Love from MALAYSIA
I would like to ASSUME you would need whatever size reel you are trying to upgrade,per say like look up the replacement bearings for a 4000 Stradic if you are upgrading a 4000 Ultegra and so on.
In the description you have RD11018 for the worm gear bearing but use RD11578 in the video. Which should it be?
I still can't wait to get my hands on one even though I don't need it right now. This thing is like a Penn Battle III tier improvement over the previous gen. Is the worm gear also a change from last gen? I have never had an Ultegra.
The worm gear is the same style used in a Stradic! It’s an awesome reel for the money!
Hi and thank you for the video! Is it the same bearing size for c5000xg please?
hi..what is the diameter worm gear lower bearing?
please make it happen I need it the most
Ultegra change bearing size 4000 same like size 2500??
Stradic FL more better or Ultegra?
FL is better than the Ultegra.
Great videos, just ordered a new 2021 shimano twin power 3000xg, wondering which stella components I could add to upgrade. 🤙
Hmm I haven't upgraded that reel before. Your best bet is to compare the part schematics from fishshop.shimano.com good luck!
stradic fl vs ultegra which one much better?
He Stradic is still better but they definitely closed the gap!
Can the same bearings be installed with 2021 Shimano Ultegra c5000xg
bearing sizes ?
All the bearings I used are in the description!
Hey, great video. Thank you.
Today I got Ultegra C3000HG (2021 version).
Is it normal to feel micro movement in the reels handle at the rate every 2nd circle it travels a circle? Or is that a reel defect and i should replace with another Ultegra reel?
Hope for your reply, cheers.
same with me , i got ultegra 2500shg
Awesome vid! Do you know if the bearings are the same size if I want to upgrade a 2500 Ultegra? Thanks!
Yes they are the exact same size!!
@@WestCoastFloridaFishing awesome, thanks!
What's the difference between the "HG" model and the "FC" model of that reel? Anyway, is that Shimano reel grease good to be used for all of the internal parts of the reel and is good for other brands of reels as well?
I know the HG Model is the High Gear model but not sure about the FC other than Far Cast? Maybe? I use that grease for all of my reel parts! Great stuff!
Very nice video, but may i ask that which one should i get?
The Stradc FL or the Ultegra FC?
Thanks a lot !
Stradic FL is a better reel for sure! Thanks for commenting!
In the 5000 size diference between a Stradic and Ultegra is about 35 euros.
Just ordered one. PUMPED
Which is better stradic fl or this ultegra 2021??? Please anyone??
Stradic FL has my vote!!
Hello brother if we compare do shimano ultegra 2021 and shimano Stradic FL which one you will prefer please let me know
I want to buy this kind of reel the 2000HG series
Is this reel better than the old stradic fk?
Tough call there...
Worm gear front bearing 2x5x2.5 RD11578
Worm gear rear bearing 3x6x2.5 RD11018
Handle bearings 4x7x2.5 RD13269
Not sure why RD13274 is listed there because it is the spool shaft bearing of stella and not possible fit to ultegra as far as I know.
I was going to get an FK but since people are asking the same as new,even with a new rendition of the Stradic out already,I am going to get an Ultegra 4000.
Have you found any upgrades you can make to the new Nasci or Fuego LT ? So far for the Fuego all I see is the line roller bushing to bearing,and 2 bearings to the knob. But I am scared to open the reel and mess with it since its MagSealed.
Yeah I completely get it I’d hate to ruin my favorite reels I have a new nasci upgrading video coming out very very soon!
Hi West Coast can I order you this kind of reel in our country? I want to buy this reel the 2000HG series
Being able to open the reel body without messing with the anti reverse clutch is HUGE..!! Exploding one of those is NOT fun. Tell me what the new Ultegra feels like with added bearings. A Stradic for $50 less???
It was a HUGE find that I had!!!! It really does feel like a damn Stradic… for me I’d say I’d rather spend 50$ and get the Stradic with some of the upgrades components
Hey great vids enjoy them a lot. If you upgraded to Swiss ceramic bearings well there sick. I have them on my my.bike. Marketed by DT but made by Hugh but could be Boca. Bearings come in standard sizes so interchangeability is easy . Saw one test on a Islander Centerlpin reel spun forever. Just saying. Keep up good work
I will definitely need to try some ceramic bearings soon!! Thanks for the tip and the awesome comment!!
Hello I am toorrn between spherroos and ultega, I mostly do inshore saltwater fishing which one should I get.
When you work on it its knot new any more cant tell any different
Another difference is a C2000S Stradic FL is lighter compare to 20 Ultegra size 1000
Edit: I made a mistake
Stradic FL C200S is 185g.
20 Ultegra 1000 is 180g.
Is that really true?? I’d like to see that for myself one day!
@@WestCoastFloridaFishing
Please see my previous post, my apologies
@@vire559 no problem my friend!!! I was confused a little because the ultegra has a Ci4+ Side plate and that’s lighter than the Stradic FL
If only the Ultegra had the same drag clicker sound as the Stradic 🙁 that’s the only thing that lets it down
It definitely doesn’t sound as good that’s for sure!
@@WestCoastFloridaFishing can the clicker be changed out ?
@@jameelsmith3566 not to make it sound like the Stradic unfortunately no…
Very cool! :)
Awee thank you so much ☺️
The only gripe I have with this reel is the weight, but that goes with the size of the reel th-cam.com/users/postUgkxM68VkfsQhHaabDce1IwOCXuvumcpbZ_k . I brought this salmon fishing up in Oswego, NY. I coupled it with a Cabela's Whuppin Stick. I had no problem pulling in a 14lb salmon. I will probably use this for surf fishing this summer and downgrade to a 3500 series Battle II next salmon season to save my wrists. All of the operations are butter smooth and the bail is nice and thick and has a solid flip to it. Everything about this reel is sturdy and strong. The drag system held up to the salmon and was also super smooth. I did use a scale to set the drag properly before going out to the river and this worked out tremendously. A bunch of other guys on the river would hook up and snap almost immediately. Just because you have a good drag system doesn't do anything if you don't set it correctly.
An Ultegra will never be a Stradic no matter how many bearings you put in it. The Stradic has a much stronger aluminum body. The Ultegra has a light body and a heavy rotor. If that was ideal that is how Snimano would have made the Sustain but it is just the opposite of the Ultegra. Instead the Sustain has an aluminum body and a light MGL rotor. Adding bearings to an Ultegra gives you something more along the lines of a sluggish Vanford with more startup inertia as the heavier rotor turns. I mean no disrespect but there are far more important differences between all Shimano reels than simply the number of bearings.
From what I have read the stradic and uktegra both have a ci4 body?
@@mystoryhisglory9438 stradic hagane vs ultegra ci4
This is not the correct way - metal plate immediatly after ball bearing (18:12). There must be a shim. And there is too much grease, man!
This CRAFTSMAN Precision 18-Piece Bi-material Handle Set Multi-bit Screwdriver Set is actually a craftsman and not a Husky brand.
Hi ! Thank you for this very instructive video. I just order a new 2021 Shimano Ultegra 1000. Could you tell me the bearings size and/or numbers to upgrade it same four that you replace on your 2500)
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JUST DID THIS UPGRADE IN THE HANDLE KNOB ON MY NEW ULTEGRA.. BUT it doesnt fit... the bearings rae the same as lineroller bearings so i took from my vanford spareparts and one more exat same... used the same schim.. but when i tighten it it doesnt go as it shoulkd... bushings are more quiet. but i want bearings in the knob .. it had to much play but my ood its so much smoother tahn fucking overrated crapford
Bad job. You will destroy worm shaft. You mast put enother shim on biger ball bearing outside on on outer ring of ball bearing.
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Thanks for the comment!! 😁
mky ulktegra is superior tto crapford now days i hate vanford 3 of them broke dowbn after max 6 montths,,., ultegra just go and go and smoother
The money you spent to upgrate Ultegra you buy a Stradic...
gloves, this isnt a body operation,, really
Do modelu 4000 łożyska będą takie same i inne wymiary?
Can i also upgrade my shimano nasci 4000xg 2021 model. To stradic?
Close but not all the way unfortunately...