Tips and Tricks for Buying Your First Truck (Owner Operator, Brands, Old vs New, Beginner Truck)
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- We ask our drivers for their tips on what to look for when buying your first truck and transitioning into an owner-operator. The answers we received covered quite a large variety of topics and ideas, super informative for those thinking of purchasing their first truck.
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Soundtrack:
Sun Dog - Tiger Gang
Pop Filter - Alternate Endings
Sliver Lining - Brent Wood
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:02 Eventually your truck will break down and you need to have money saved
01:23 Find out how well the truck was maintained before you buy
01:44 Be realistic when choosing your truck
02:50 Take the time to learn the ins and outs of everything
03:53 Be prepared to repair an old truck frequently
04:28 Driver chooses freightliner because it's most popular, more mechanics are familiar
04:56 Used truck may be cheaper but then you could have many problems
06:11 Extra add ons for older trucks
06:50 Get the oil tested and sampled
07:19 Recommended fast trucks are Freightliner or Volvo
07:52 Cost of repairs inside truck, air conditioner cost
08:05 Newer engines in newer trucks- better fuel efficiency
09:00 Every truck needs to be maintained and taken care of regardless of age
09:20 Trucking business vs business of trucking
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I'm an old retired guy, but if I were to decide to come out of retirement and get back into the business. I would go to work as a company driver with dedicated equipment and save my money then buy an older truck Probably a 359, old model W900, or a Marmon, then rebuild it from front to back. Once I was satisfied I would put it to work, possibly with the company I hired on to as a company driver, if they were straight up guys.. I would stay with Cummins or an old school Cat. Those old engines when correctly built and set up are capable of allot of power, and got decent fuel milage, if you were a driver and not a cowboy. Plus they would run 750,000 to 1.5 million miles with proper preventive maintenance and tune ups. My reason for the old model is I can still do any repair neccessary and not have to pay a shop that may or may not do first class work. If you consider the fact when you're broke down you're not making any money so it would behoove you to do your own repair and save the shop rate. I always carried my tool box and spare parts that I thought I might need. Granted my light weight was a little higher but I mostly hauled oversized so it really didn't matter. Personally I would run from an electronic truck, because I'm a dinasaur and don't understand all the computerized crap the regulators have forced down the industry's collective throat. A truck driver doesn't need a computer to tell him how to run the truck, whats a safe following distance, how hard to brake, or when to shift gears. Just my two cents
Glad your not on the road anymore, sir
@@jaeinnmoon3279 Me Too, stay safe if you're a driver bud. Keep "er between the ditches and the bears off your britches. If you have a truck designed for the Monfort Lane, get a good CB, Radar detector, and a good signal absorption device. Stay safe and the greasy side down.
@Thomas Chisholm Sorry you feel that way pilgrim. It appears you have consumed too way much cool aid. You should have stayed a computer geek instead of going to a driving school and terrorizing the hiways. Have a great day Bud. hopefully your guardian Angle will keep you safe for your family (if you have one). But more importantly protect Real drivers with families from the likes of you . Keep the greasy side down hopefully long enough to become a real truck driver.
@Thomas Chisholm Pilgrim all I can say to you is I must have hit a nerve. Hopefully you will grow from that . Sadly I won't hold my breath. You are displaying your ignorance trying to insult my intelligence. So please have a great day in your cool aid phantasy land your two firing braincells reside in Bud.
@@braunreinhold6020 lol grumpy old man. welcome to the intranet haters everywhere
These trucks break down because people don't do the proper preventative maintenance or even pre-trips.
this sounds intresting to know, i am buying a semi. what do you mean by pre-trips? like a warm up for the truck
@@ecapone4389 think he means oil checks popping the hood looking at the engine maintaining fuel :oil filters , regular oil changes etc Good luck 👍 what type of truck are you looking to buy?
@@ecapone4389 pre trip inspection. Like things you could have caught if you inspected it beforehand.
I would go with new Freightliner as I already know 2020 Volvo and 2020 Peterbilt.
I consider the new Freightliner bcz of fuel mpg and the slick design plus the cost of repairs.
It's always interesting to see how people go about getting into owning their own trucks. I bought my first truck, a brand new 389, in 2018. I'm now on my second 389. You can manage to start with a new truck, but it's definitely more work out of the gate.
Is it better to buy new and not have to worry about it blowing up for awhile
@@chaserogers4632 - if owning a pre-emission truck was the way to go, all the megacarriers will be running those old trucks, but they don't and their business model works
Really it depends on what you as an owner/ operator wants. I tend to flip my trucks when they run out of warranty, so new works for me. Some people prefer to keep a truck for a long time, so older tends to work better for them. Older trucks are becoming more limited in what states they can legally travel to, which can create issues as well.
@@jaeinnmoon3279 no they wouldn’t. Pre emission engines in older trucks hold their value. The megas run new plastic pieces of shit because their cheap.
@@mopar_runner2284 - and they stay in business while you ain't.
I really love the new Cascadias. Like the guy said on the video. Cheaper to repair and find parts. I feel that’s very important if you’re going to be on her later. I don’t have my class A just yet but I’m learning so much from your channel. Please keep it up. Awesome Chanel
You guys are doing a good job for people like us who are planning to take to trucking as a second life lob experience.
I've been watching multiple videos that you guys put up I really do appreciate these as somebody who's looking at my first attempt to go out on my own I'm still torn but I'm feeling like if I can afford the down payment getting a new truck it's going to be much better in the long run since I'm not going to have a ton of cash up front so at least I'll have a warranty to help me out to get through that first 6 months or a year to get some money put back....🤔
Any thing pre-emission will serve you better then def trucks.
know your trucks and pre-emission trucks will serve you for the rest of your life. Be ignorant and disloyal and the repairs will catch up your ass
I’ve been seeing this a lot. What year are pre emissions?
@@olmanclifton any truck before 2008
@@olmanclifton 2007 and older, and even some 2007 you have to do an egr delete
@@lilripstaSSF4 until you're in the shop every weekend with your 350k peterbilt
It also matters how much experience you have and where you plan on driving. Have a plan. Take notes.
Great wee video
Great video! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for your positive feedback!
I sold my Pete because it cost a lot to repair and it took forever to get it into a shop.... With Freightliner, the cost of the repair is less expensive and I've found that I'm in and out of the shop faster...
I get that. But now you have to feel every rock and pothole, even normal patchwork on the highway as catastrophic re-entry into earth's orbit events! That's a lot of bouncing around and vertebrae twisting trauma! Hopefully you at least took the seat out and lit it on fire in place of a new custom seat to make driving this truck bearable???
Thank you for sharing this information. I am quite new to this business.
Looking to buy my first truck this fall, cash. Very excited.
My favourite truck is the 2014 Freightliner Cascadia single axle day cab!
Thank you So Much about This It's a very good video people should watch this when you're looking to become an IC
Thank you for watching and sharing!
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A Volvo 780 2006 D12 it's an RV hauler. I love the info on your site. Thanks!
I have always liked the Freightliner trucks. I am currently driving a 2020 Cascadia and I would love to get one with a walk away lease!
What’s a walk away lease
Ha guys!!! I've been beng watching your videos. I'll be purchasing my 1st truck. I'm aiming for a 2016 780 Volvo. I'll give a comfortable payment with a good amount of money set aside for maintenance. Yea y'all funny to. I'm not finished yet. I'll be watching some more
Love this video.It promotes the individual’s mindset to know what you want and be patient and don’t leap into an uncomfortable situation you’re going to regret later.That’s as far as I have gotten in becoming an owner operator, is the pre-decision process,however some days that’s my frustration also.Again thanks for the great videos 🚚🚚🚚🚚🚚
Go get that bread brother!
Nice video. I run a 23 Volvo now for my company, but I’ve been thinking a lot of buying a truck and leasing somewhere. Preferably Volvo or freighter
Awesome
I'd like to get a western star 4700. Good if you're running GTA to Montreal or Northern Ontario because it's flat and most would be one night in the sleeper. Probably with the Cummins X12 for fuel economy
I’ve been working as a company driver for 10 years and I’m looking to get my first truck. It will be a brand new or practically new. I don’t care what paper work a used truck comes with, I’ve seen too many idiots with a class one license over the years.
Nice Video.
I have a 2019 Volvo VNL 760.
I had to change a rubber seal on the driveshaft and one a rear wheel, also got in to a ditch once (driver played hero and dozed off) and got a speed sensor squashed and broke some plastics under the bumper. The plastics costed me more than 600$ and the sensor was less than 100.
What do you guys think about buying from a leasing company? I know they are well maintained and they should have records showing the maintenance.
Thank you
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Sure, there's a lot of freightliner dealerships out there. But you will have to wait at least a week on the average after you check in will they look at your truck. 9 out of 10 freightliner shops will tell you there's 50 trucks in line ahead of you... most freightliner shops will invoice you for the warranty work they just completed.
Peterbilt and kenworth are beautiful , but I would prefer a freightliner or Volvo because the accessible possibility with both of them ( price and Efficient machines ) 🤩☝️🙏 !!!
Thanks for sharing!
Volvo's appear to have the quietest truck engine among Detroit, Cummins, Paccar, etc. Just stand next to it in the fueling island and you can hear the quietness.... they just hmmm.
Thanks
I’m looking to purchase a 48” sleeper Mack Anthem. Reason 1) when you ask an a mechanic what his opinion is on the Mack and the 15 year veteran says, idk, can’t say I have ever really worked on one. The maintenance is pretty simple on them but as for repairs, I haven’t done it
Peterbilt 379 early 2000s pre emissions and they work hard
99 379 pre emissions pre eld
2010 Volvo VNL 1.1 millon miles
$26k with a 48ft trailer $14k repairs and permits I it wasn't to bad will see what happens
Hey Ronen, no offense but here's a little style recommendation.
Why not add a precious metal chain around the neck, some rings on the fingers? Would complement the bossy shirt and the watch.
98 T800 kw n14 10sp 260" w.b. mid roof 72 sleeper 120ga fuel tanks .it would be spec for steel hualing/ any thing u can put on the deck. Tl 53' spread axle..
I’m looking for a truck what do you think the best truck is and why?
I prefer an older rig.....however I’m buying a newer one simply because of the warntys that come with it. KE or Peterbilt.....freightliner and Volvo have always been super cheap made in my opinion
dont forget the rough ride that will kill your back cheap seats what a shame
It really don’t matter it’s all about how you look at things. Older trucks gonna spend way more time in the shop which means you’re not gonna be making money. At least with a new truck the odds of you breaking down are way lower and it’s covered under warranty. In three yes time you should have at least 40k in your maintenance account and enough to cover truck note, trailer note, insurance and household expenses for an month if the truck is in the shop that long
Did you really say older trucks breakdown more than older trucks 🤣 I might get 1-3 small breakdowns a year in my 04 W9, my friend bought a newer truck 2 years ago and his truck in 1 year been in the shop more than mines in 5 years. Older engines are a lot easier to maintain
@@lilripstaSSF4 man stop it. You have an 04 you probably have rebuilt the engine 2-3 time and replaced every vital part on the truck. You also probably stayed on top of the maintenance. I have a 2020 an haven’t been in the shop once.
I think there was some damn good points made their I think it boils down to the the owner and how he maintains his equipment new or used really I think there's a good points and bad points on all of them good video though
love the older cascadias with a manual trans and the DD15. i won't spend no more than 30 k on a truck once it blows up buy another and move on
Do you have a vid on why there are so many different configurations for trucks?
No. But it is a good idea. We always appreciate requests for future videos!
I have a question
Whats better efficient wise
The long nose or the newer trucks more aerodynamic trucks
Thats a question for me
The cheaper the truck the quicker you have to save up for an engine rebuild. I'd buy a freightliner cascadia dd15 or volvo with a volvo engine and manual trans.
20/40k vs 170k is a big deal. I'm in construction and I'm thinking about finding a office job and im really interested about getting into trucking.
still trying to figure out if its flat/long haul or local. cement company i know is always looking for drivers here in vancouver.
stay frosty and honest
I definitely prefer an older truck. Everything is mechanical and simple to work on.
Why would it matter to someone that is not going to repair their own truck if they just want the freedom of owning the truck and keeping it maintained I believe that getting anew truck would be a wise decision….no?
@@s_tonykills26_s78 All depends on the person. I like working on my own stuff, and I personally just like older trucks better.
@@plumbingstuffinoregon2471 that’s understandable but for me 17 that is trying to get into the business I think it would be better to buy a new truck and learn to keep it running and go from there no?
@@s_tonykills26_s78 new does not mean always better , a lot of sensors are on back order at the moment
All depends on what kind of work will you do....local-regional-48 states&Canada..??
Should you get a pre-purchase inspection?
Don't buy one that blows up on the 6th load at least it was still under warranty, guess I should have watched this before I bought my first truck
I guess hp does effect your work. If you pulling a heavy haul on the mountains. it's a good idea to have 500 hp on mountains otherwise you will have a problem with the engine
I guess the biggest clue of the Most economical truck to fix would be to buy and truck that rental companies use.
I wish there were Glider Volvo trucks available
No def
Old cat or cummins
No elogs
Man i would make a good money with that kind of truck
I am just used to Volvo cabin
Good comfort and visibility
ELOGs won’t let u run hard
I would purchase a 2013 or 2014 Freightliner Cascadia sleeper cab truck if I was an owner operator. This truck would allow me to learn the business, make money, and give me an affordable truck payment.
Here is the problem one I will not buy cheaper truck because one it's uncomfortable seats. Two I am driving for hours and I dont need to have backproblems. So I would buy a Kenworth t680 because they have the rome in the truck they have more conformable seats and I will not have backproblems. Two I like the style of the truck better than freightliner. Three I would pay more for the Kenworth T680 to have a better quality truck than a cheap quality truck.
So I found a company that guarantees I can net anywhere from 4K to 7K after all expenses so here's the dilemma.. it's o t r and pretty much my areas will be Midwest some South and east coast or Northeast so with that said and done what would be my best bet as a new owner operator what kind of truck should I get should I get a older model truck Freightliner with the Detroit 60 series a Kenworth a Volvo or Peterbilt or should I get something new? I want something that's very very reliable and won't be in the shop every week or every month please help me out guys I need all the support I can thank you
i had back pain to the point that i was gonna leave trucking got a new job new peterbilt back pain is gone! Freightliner is rough cheap seats screwed up ride besides that nice driving truck what a shame they dont care about driver at all
A little freightliner for all of the reasons mentioned
Problems with older trucks - safety. Most US trucks have drum brakes. And crash wise arent very safe for the driver. So I would choose a truck which is at least 2010 and above.
Have fun with the def systems from 2010-2015
Does anybody know excellent websites to purchase a used Freightliner?
Considering Freightliner
basically any truck with DPF is a bad truck.
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I own a 1997 freightliner fld 1#0 with a square hood with a 65 inch ablebody sleeper, with 12,7 Detroit
I know every inch of this tractor
I'm a truck mechanic by trade learn how to fix it yourself. I bought it 14 years ago older trucks ar3 the way to go
Am in Jamaica and need to buy a used truck I would like some information please help me out
Thanks for your youtube. I am planning to purchase a used Freightliner Cascadia 125. Would you please let me know your advice on which one is better to purchase for the OTR of the owner-operator? *2016 Freighliner Cascadia 125 SLP Evolution: Manual, 375,000 miles, $60,000 vs *2017 Freightliner Cascadia 125SLP: Auto, 455,000 miles, $69,000
I know its a little late but i would always go for the manual.. they last longer and are cheaper to service. Its cheaper to replace a clutch than it is to rebuild and automatic.
Volvo VNL, same as a Mack but less expensive to repair and can pull a heavy load…
I'm looking at 3 trucks one Peterbilt 579 with paccar engine, second Volvo with d13, and last international with Cummins isx15 they're all 500 horses and 10 speed, miles about the same on the lower 500 thousand. Please any advice on wish one will you guys recommend . Thank you very much keep up the good job educating us we appreciate your help.
The lower 500k is the midlife of a truck, so obviously it's gunna have some midlife crisis, so you'd expect to do major repairs soon, such as the emission components replacement or clutch or in worst case an inframe , so if you are In the market for a truck make sure whatever you buy has all the components service done and has proper for the price you are paying. Trust me you don't wanna buy someone else's problem. All the best
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Mack 2022 claim their mileage is 10 to 11 mpg, is that real?
I have the same question too?
I’m looking to buy a kenworth t680 or Peter ikr 579 because both have nice interiors and I disagree with the guy in the video you do live in the truck you spend more time away from home in your truck at least I do and I’d much rather have a nicer interior then what freightliner offers. My dream truck I plan to get in a few years is a w900 I want that horsepower and the comfort of that big sleeper.
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TESLA EV big rig has a million mile breakdown guarantee. Elon is saying the motors should last 1 million miles w/o a breakdown...that alone is worth the cost of the rig.
See it, experience it, to believe it
Also, downhill on gradient under load should be interesting, cost to charge vs fuel (especially if able to charge while eating or example, but infrastructure changes would have to be full spectrum) and whether it will involve an armoured cab with sentry and a vault mode for enhanced safety (attractive feature for some who can’t legally carry for example)… any way you view this, its going to be an radical vehicle.
U may spend more time charging. Time is money.
@@brianu4303 just charge when ur sleeping
The motors on EV might last bit the lithium batteries will degrade after 5 years and will by 10 years will be at 15% capability. Replacing those batteries will cost way way way more that replacing a diesel motor
I scrolled through comments. Does anybody making comments here actually drive? Or just play Playstation? I"ve done years of line haul, now back to city. Kenworth cabs are so cramped. Going back in time, and yes I know their reliability was crap, was the old Sterlings. Also a fan of old Western Stars. Anyone vouce for them?
I don't think buying old used truck is a good idea 🤔. I have never been into trucking industry and I don't even own a truck but there's a business man near my place, he got two old or used trucks man... Sometimes I even get stressed as if they are mine 🙃. Those trucks 🚚 are always on the pick-up, the mechanic is always on them , the bin always full of unwanted boxes from new bought parts. I would prefer new cheaper truck until I get enough cash to purchase reliable trucks e.g Mercedes.
Freightliner after 500k miles falls apart, it will feel like a bucket, cheap low quality interior and exterior, but the engine and transmission are good, peterbilt and kw are way better quality but the old model freightliners are reliable
Most freighters start falling apart at 150k miles, aw I know, mine is a 2019 model I bought with 4 miles on the odometer. You call the dealer and complain your getting check engine light and you got 175k miles on the odometer, he will tell you your truck has served you well... exceptionally well 😳😳😳
If all the successful large carriers are buying a brand I'm sure it's not because they want fancy crap for the company drivers
The company I drive for sells off their new trucks at under 500k miles...if you can't figure out why then you shouldn't buy one
Im looking at 2010 era peterbilt 387. Pre def with cummins isx.
Def came in at 2007. You need to look pre 2007 to avoid def.
@@Montoya1991 i drove a 2010 that I didn't have to put def into. I presumed that truck was def free?
@@timackerman688 I could be wrong but could be deleted.many delete them now days
@@timackerman688 I think def fluid came in around 2011 but 2007 was the year they started putting those emission crap into trucks
@@Montoya1991 yeah, that ive heard of. I think there is some kinda filter that needs replacing every 3 or so month's? Or a good cleaning anyway..
Peterbilt with a 379 cat
I love the shape of Peterbilt,but be realistic,if I buy a truck maybe I'll buy a freightliner.
99 w900
Stay away from reefer the rates higher but too much bs and heavy and trailer cost twice as much dry van and need more mantiace and more to go wrong. My first truck has twelve foot sleeper
With food cost and convince it wips out turning down heavy loads. I cook for health. I have six hundred gallons fuel Dave's log book time over three thousand miles of range. I can get there quicker company trucks with 150 gallons of fuel and they have stopp at redturent and fuel eats up time I chug along at 55 they fly at 70. Being thirty years old I log paper and series 60 Detroit is simple engine no crap like new engines
I will buy a new freightliner with dt 15 gen5 1850 torque with 455hp
A 2-year-old Freightliner
Good morning guys. I have a question for you all... i am looking to buy my first truck and i have 2 choices right now. Both truck are Volvo VLN 670, the first one is a 2008 with 1,5 million at 8k$ and the other is a 2012 with 1,5 million at 25k$. The first is pre-DEF and the second is a second generation DEF installation. Both are in pretty much the same condition... What do you suggest?
don’t buy either, you will regret it in cost, add 20k to 25k and but a decent 2018 or 2019 truck with around 400k miles
@@Henry-jy1hp sorry, but a 2018,2019 at 50k$ and 400kkm doesnt exist... 75k$ .
Very good video. But I’m not a driver, I think buy a new truck or buy a lower than 200,000 miles used truck is better. Because truck is making money machine, if it waste time on the road that is waste money.
Please make a video explain how many miles when engine and transmission need rebuild . Thank you
My truck needed a bottom end rebuilt at 497,000 previous owner did not take care of the truck probably a fleet truck. DD15 Motor
@@truckingwithcliff watched this videos will help me improve English skills. Thank you for comment me.
If a truck has a fridge & a microwave or not would be the absolute last of my concerns. Like who gives a shit about $100 appliances
Didn’t help someone who don’t know stuff about trunks
Rule # 1 for buying a new or used truck: Never, ever buy a truck (or anything for that matter) from anyone who has an Eastern European accent.
Old
Fuck! Learned nothing bought f550 with a 5th wheel can’t haul shit!
Here is the best trip for buying a truck and being an owner operator. Don't ever do it! Click off this video and go find a good company to drive for
That dude said volvo are easier to drive lmao how s is he a owner op
Ya pumjabi u guys dont like elog because u guys cheat a lots driving mor the 15 hours a day
With paperlog.
Don't do it! You will regret it.
I would buy around 100000 miles used truck, Freightliner Cascadia. Why? Think why! 🤓
Caskedia. Frightliner..