Luc even if Thor pulled exactly the same weight as Eddie (500) he would have to do more work than hall, reason is the bar has to travel further to lockdown for Thor than eddy Work= force x distance. And if someone is 15 cm taller then that argument of the tall persons arms are long so the deadlift range of motion will be the same is completely wrong, if Thor was only 5 cm taller then yeah u can say that, but 15cm is a-bit too much
Macgyver Smit so we ignore the fact that thor is able to get more muscle into his bigger frame? That few cm isnt that big of a deal + the length of their arms is the most significant factor
I think what's not most impressive is how the show was catered to Eddie's every need including weight jumps and resting time, while people get upset when Thor only chooses what weight to do
Woooowww no way really? Ya... we know, however took him 4 times to finally do it. Aside from the fact he broke it with 1kg .. Don’t get me wrong I cannot even lift 2 plates, kudos to him. But let’s just “forget” that Eddie broke the record by a large margin at the time. And at first try !
Michel Linschoten yeah but just because somebody broke a record by a bit doesn’t mean anything. For example Bolt is considered the record holder in 100m and the best not the person before him. So Eddie and his fans need to stfu
@@meginna8354 Ed rounds up compulsively. Weight on the bar on his past achievement reposts, and height/weight too. His insta/yt pic is photoshopped to make him look beefier than he was when the image was taken
Keep in mind Thor’s arms are wayyyy longer than Eddie’s. It’s not as if he has to lift the bar the total of the height difference between them. Which people seem to think. Thor has larger joints to bear weight loads, muscles (insertion and origin,) larger tendons, larger ligaments, thicker bones likely even. He has a massive skeletal frame which allows him to be so strong. Guys get way to hung up on height as if his massive frame has not allowed him to grow into the beast he has.
Eddie moved 500kgs on the floor easier than he moved his own 465kgs on the elephant bar. So the comparison means nothing. Eddie was the first to do 500kgs! Thor will be the second and will surpass Eddie! Both are amazing at what they do.
It is a shame Eddie didn't try to beat his record in 2017. He legitimately looked stronger (than when he did the 500 in 2016) That bar at WSM 2017 looked really stiff as well. It's true that they weren't calibrated plates though, but nobody else got passed 465kg(?), and Eddie clearly had much more him in (on that day) Good luck to Thor though, the record has stood long enough. (I've edited for clarity. I've got no intention of getting involved in the bullshit argument that's going on around the record attempt 👍😂)
The reason he didn't try to beat his own record is that its really dangerous. Eddie was bleeding from his brain and was blind for three hours after the 500kg lift.
Oddi Toddi i believe that happened because he held the weight for a lot of time. He didnt try it again because it wasnt worth the danger. He already achieved his dream, for him there is no need to risk his life again
Brian Waldner , you clearly know nothing about lifting. If you kept up with his performance. Eddie completely fresh and well prepped definitely had a shot at 520kg or even 530kg who knows. He has been known to throw an extra plate on his max so wouldn’t be that big of a surprise if he did. You thinking you could have done that with no training at all to pack that up Is super cheap. Not the same circumstance
Awesome video! Thor is just man handling these weights, not even struggling to lock out. He got the 501 in the bag and honestly I think he got 510-520 too.
if eddie didnt retire (which he should have) we might have already seen a 430 already because of how easy at 500kg was for eddie (going up not the aftermath)
@@mynameisbobtheking7896 lmao, he just got 501 and could not handle anymore bodyweight or anymore juice on his frame. Eddie had to retire bro. He could not handle the amount of anabolics he needed to take to compete at this level. He was dying. Many other guys like Thor, for example, take much less and have long careers. Guys like Thor can grow to 500lbs bodyweight and be immensely healthier than Eddie was...
A hamstring... past strongman have died younger than Thor and you're worried about his hamstring suffering a minor pull. Are you a professional arsehole or is it just a hobby?
@@csjs74 sorry the no chill demon that was in you went into my body for a brief time. Hopefully it hasn't passed on to any other guy reading this thread.
When Eddie pulled 500 - 70+ pounds over the previous WR (his also,) - it was thought to basically be impossible at the time. It was amazing and shocking. So far ahead of what any other athlete had ever been able to do. When do popular strength WR’s get demolished by such a weight jump? Just amazing.
If you look at how Eddie ate when he was competing vs how Thor eats now. You will understand why Eddie fell over on the 500kg lift. Thor is miles ahead in his nutrition from what I see
People seem to forget when Eddie pulled 500 almost everyone thought it was impossible, it was a ground breaking lift in the world of strength sports. I do think Thor will be the next guy to hold the WR Deadlift though.
@@nesamdoom eddie was on so many drugs/calories he was literally passing out from deadlifting. He has said many, many, many times if he continued lifting the way he was his doctor said he'd be dead in 1-2 years. He didn't cut back because he wanted to, he cut back because he literally had to. Thor has 3 Arnold classic wins in a row. He has WAY more world records then eddie does/ever did, and they're matched at 1 WSM title. Not to mention I believe thor has beaten/placed higher then Eddie in every competition besides 1 during their 6-8 year rivalry. In no world is/was Eddie stronger or a better athlete then thor is. If he was, he'd have more wins. It's as simple as that.
@@josephmangano3261 ok Eddie wasn't stronger, just did in fact deadlift more and beat him at wsm. Which was his goal. He retired after reaching the goal he set. And he was stronger than Thor when he retired. Fuck even last year Thor got shit on by 501, so barely got to Eddie's level if he even did.
@@nesamdoom You understand Eddie lost 2016 WSM man right? Eddie basically spent an entire year training deadlift only to hit 500kg and then the year AFTER that he won wsm 2017. Thor placed higher then Eddie did in 2016 WSM. That'a literally a fact. Not to mention it wasn't even close. Thor had 51 points to eddie's 43. As I said. Eddie literally beat thor exactly one in their entire 6-8 year rivalry. If they were boxers and fought 15x and eddie lost 14x then won once, he'd be worse by every viable metric. It's the same thing here. Thor has beaten eddie 14x+ and eddie has beaten him once. Here's a link to the ASC en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Strongman_Classic Although eddie competed at this event for ~7 years the literally never in came in top 3. Let that sink in. Not only does Thor have more major contest wins(4), but he has more major contest wins then Eddie has podium finishes(2). If we include thor's podium finishes he goes to 11. How are you going to argue 2 > 11. This isn't powerlifting. Eddie is not a powerlifter. He's a strong man.
Thor and Eddie are both animals and super strong. Not a stab at Thor at all but I do think a world record attempt should be done with the same bar and exact same set up in my opinion. Doing it in Thor’s gym or whatever is fine. But same bar needs to be used. For certain people it can make a big difference.
So Olympic records can only count if they're done on the exact same apparatus in the same location? PLing WRs can only happen if they're done with the same bar on the same.platform and the same bench? Have a think about what you're saying for just a moment 🤦♂️
LMC same bench? Lol come on man I literally said it’s fine doing it in thors gym. I’m just questioning the elephant bar which Thor will be using vs the deadlift bar Eddie used. There are a few differences between them!
CluedUp? Real fans ? Of course people from the weight lifting community are watching. But Eddie has introduced it to a bigger audience with his self promotion on various internet platforms. Which also brings in more money into the sport
@@miaumiauu23 easier? Definitely debatable. Martins says its harder. Also, thors foot slipped during the lift. He had the strength. Double also, thor has done a full prep for this lift, the EBar attempt he was training for the strongman classic
Æðöþør Sölþå Thor is stronger on that specific bar & he’s stronger without a suit. 480 raw in training. 455 x 2 easy reps. Both were done on a bar with less flex than the real elephant bar
hg_10sm not disagreeing but it’s like Eddie is better on a deadlift bar whereas Thor is on elephant it’s very hard to compare but nowadays I say Thor has the slight edge
Thor has the 501 in the bag. I'm now wondering if he will do a fourth attempt after the 501 and how much he will try to pull then. 520 is, imo, certainly within his limits.
Not really. At wsm 2017 thor lifted 460 for a speed rep yet failed 472. This speaks about his power and technique. Also last year he went for 501 and started bleeding from his forhead after barely getting it to his knees. He defenetly is strong enough to do the lift but nothing is certain so we'll just have to wait and see
Who Cares , can’t believe someone can be this stupid. Eddie supporting his body weight at that height put enormous strain on him. Being that unhealthy and successful breaking a record that nobody taller with a much better frame to maintain that mass can beat for 4 years now is beyond anything we will see for a while. I feel like your just so in love with Thor you forget to acknowledge the whole picture
@Who Cares Yeah well he almost died because he held it for a few seconds after they referee said it was a fair lift. I don't knot if hafthor wants to show ofg and hold it for another 3 seconds.
@@MrYatta831 The 501kg was on the elephant bar which Thor himself has said he finds much harder so not a great comparison.. and also the 2017 version of Thor is nothing like e is now... he's been putting all his focus onto the deadlift for months... i agree with ur last statement though... he's definitely capable but you gotta do it on that day at that time which is never easy or a given
@@jarrodgeikie870 Well majority of strong men say that elephant is a bit easier so you cant say its ALOT harder for him, maybe unconfortable. The reason i mentioned wsm 2017 is to show that theres a close line between a speed rep and a failed one. Check it out for yourself. I have a similar problem because my lower back is way stronger then upper so i can pull it fast of the ground but get stuck on the end portion of the lift
Eddie didn’t want to go higher on his deadlift,he just wanted to be the first guy to lift 500kg.There are 5 guys on the planet who were or still are capable of pulling 500+ kg
MBHerbig well Eddie already pull 500 kg Thor will most likely do it, Benedict magusson attempted it and got it off the ground,so did Pritchett so they are capable if they focused on deadlift,and a prime Brian Shaw could do it if he focuses on his deadlift but u can have your opinion and I can I mine.
My question is. Why does everyone bag on Thor for pulling on an elephant bar But never mention Eddie was pulling in a suit vs Thor raw. All things considered, they were both doing things that made their lifts "easier". Its nice Thor is just gonna pull in the exact same setup as Eddie did. Just So it's all equal now. But people are already finding reasons to complain
the elephant bar is hated because it is very much a different lift, because the weight takes so long to be fully off the floor, whereas the suit and other things that eddie uses don't actually change the movement at all but just make it easier, and are perfectly legitimate to use
@@bluestangGT2001 Both lifts are vastly different and in no way comparable. An elephant bar isn't easier or harder than a regular stiff bar. Depending on the athlete, he may have a harder time or not on either bar. A stiff bar generally helps with explosive lifters. You gain momentum as you explode upwards and complete the lift. An elephant bar will fuck your lift up if you explode off the floor due to the whip. Thor is a more static puller. And you're absolutely right. People are bitching about the bar yet excuse the use of a suit. Benni Magnusson holds the raw record but "HURRR DURR EDDIE PULLED 500 BRO DURRRRrrr".
NC DOZER Eddie’s 450 before 500 in training moved at the same speed as Thor’s 470 in training. 520 isn’t out of the question. 501 on the day once fully peaked will be easy as fuck
I think Thor maaaybe has 520 in him, but I do not believe he can do it AFTER doing 501, which I am sure he will do. (Edit: Ofc on the same day in the same session). He might do 520 if the last warm up lift is no heavier than 480.
I am not convinced Eddie is even 6'3, judging by the pics I saw with him and Larry Wheels who is 6'1 they seem to be exactly the same height, so that's what 20 cm of difference (If Eddie Hall truly is 6'1 not 6'3)
@@hg_10sm68 Nice. Also, the comparison was from 2016, right? How long had Thor had an Elephant bar then? I doubt anyone knows for sure, but it is unlikely to have been much of "a while" more than Ed, since 2016 was the first year the bar existed.
Who cares how fast a weight is lifted? Thor is always methodical even with 400lbs. If you go by speed off the the ground, Larry Wheels is deadlifting 1500lbs... and he can't. If your conclusion is based on speed you have no idea.
Don't use Eddie's deadlift at WSM 2017 for comparison, it was with bumper plates and a long bar that noone has seen before or since so don't compare it to a deadlift bar with calibrated plates
@LDN EDD even tho it's not official like Eddie's due to prevailing situation, it got acknowledged by the one person Thor really wanted, by Eddie himself. And i think the weights were calibrated and measured before the lift by the sponsors. But yea, Thor should do an official lift with official judges after this Corona virus biz. He would be able to pull that off considering how easy it looked for him. Maybe he'll go for 520kgs???!!! Idk.
Its hard to compare speed when 2 lifters have different sticking points. If 510 was an absolute max for them but they tried 520, eddie would fail mid thigh but Thor would fail just below the knee. Because of this Thor starts to slow near the knee but once above he is strong enough to lock out where as with eddie there is more of a subtle difference between an easy lift and a hard lift
To the people are talking about the height difference... Eddie and Brian did a comparison between the heights of a bar at their lock out and Eddies bar was less than an inch lower than Brian's and Brian is only 2 cm shorter than Thor so the fact that there is a 15cm difference between Eddie and Thor, doesn't seem to matter that much to how high they lift the bar off the ground. I think Thor can lift it, don't get me wrong. I do think that it should be in a comp though.
You don't see people compare Eddie to someone, yet you see everyone comparing other strongmen to Eddie. Why? because Eddie is number 1 and he's not even competing anymore. If Eddie was competing he would of beaten his 500kg lift already. No one is as strong as Eddie statically
@@aneurinaustin bullshit, that's some dumb intuitive bullshit from you, Eddie hall will be compared to everybody just like all other strongmen for years to come
@@dbjmk8083 lmao - the most corrupt competition in strongman next to Giants Live. Both are being taken over by WUS - cause the strongman are sick and tired of their bullshit - idiot.
They both deserve there props and no need to argue. Eddie's record has stood for 4 years which is amazing thinking that prior to that it got broke ever 6 months for like 5 year in a row.
You didnt just bring up height!? Its limb length not how tall you are. This totally ruined your so called expertise about "measuring" both Mens strength.
@@StrengthCentral if your just making a general statement that Thor is taller and bc hes taller he has a more diff time deadlifting then that is BS. Everyone has diff limb lengrgs , attachments etc. I know very short guys..heck im 5ft 5 and mybarms are as long as a few of my friends arms who are 5ft 9. 5 ft 10. Same w my legs. Start high up on hip. Call this short waisted. Is like saying...just bc a guy is 5ft 5 / short that doesnt mean he automatically has short arms and will b a good bench presser. You would have to measure arm length of eddie and thor. As well as leg length and were the legs attatch at insertion points to really find out if Thor has to move the bar more than Eddie at all or not.
Eddie hall is a beast. People make records and people break records. The time Eddie made the record Thor was nowhere near him. If he picks up more than Eddie good for him. Eddie got nothing to loose.
His nose bleeded bcuz he hold that 500kg for long time If she should lift and dropped it that problem wasn't issue that is being showed in thumbnail But Thor is gonna kill that Deadlift for 💯 sure
Eddie was bleeding on the way up. Check out the close-up of his face as he pulls it. Not saying that holding it didn't fuck him up, though, just that he was bleeding pretty much from the start.
@@stubones I know both metric and imperial. My point is that Eddie is not honest about his height. He's not a short guy but I doubt he's 190. I think he has some sort of bigorexia combined with an inferiority complex.
Thor's dead lift the year Eddie did 500 kg is what should be used for comparison. Thor had a lot more time to train and the standard was lower back then. Eddie raised the bar 😂 If Thor hits the 530 kg then that's when people should make the comparison because the standard was raised even higher (even though it wasn't done in competition).
@@josegarciaflores5977 I never said that Thor won't do it ,I'm pointing out that this comparison video has no meaning , Thor is probably stronger than Eddie right now. if he doesn't pull 501 while showing such strong lifts I would feel sad for him
3:35 That's not a speed rep. Eddie is just fast off the floor but struggles with lockouts. Thor has more of a strong lockout (comparatively), which you can see in some of his recent training videos. They just don't deadlift the same way. Not saying that deadlift wasn't very convincing, on the contrary, it was great. But no need for hyperbole.
That would be considered a speed rep by strongman standards. Most heavy deadlifts by strongmen often involve a lot of hitching and are very slow off the floor. While that isn't a speed rep by normal gym standards, it certainly is at that weight.
Just for the record, 2:55 Eddie's clip was 410 kg not 450 kg lmao. Bar (20kg) + 7 red (25kg) + 1 yellow (15kg) + 1 black (2,5kg) + competetion collars (2,5kg) is 410kg.
Æðöþør Sölþå are you an idiot? Suit does make a significant difference, otherwise they would’ve pulled this raw, you could potentially gain up to 50kgs or more from a suit if you sit into it correctly
Just noticed that the auto-generated caption translate:"welcome back to your favorite lifting channel" to "welcome back to your favorite lesbian channel" dont really know what to think about this
Ivo Martins you must be an idiot because bjornson is using a lifting belt with a lifting suit which makes the lift significally easier meanwhile eddie is using a soft belt with nothing else which makes non or little difference.
Not that I'm saying Eddie is stronger because I do think Thor will smoke 501, but in regards to the 465 elephant bar clips - didn't Eddie do that only minutes after doing 460? It would be interesting to see what it would have looked like if he skipped 460 (assuming Shaw did 463 already).
yeah but how strong would eddie be now...4 years later if he never stopped competing. what is right is right that 472kg eddie rep was done after the wsm qualifying and then the events before that pull in the African heat, I think thor will do 501kg but for me even if he does he is not stonger than eddie in wsm 2017, eddie the best presser, pretty much dominated the sqauiting events too, and by far the best deadlifter. also people that say 500kg almost killed eddie that because he held it at the top and had huge adrenaline rush because he had miliions riding on that deadlift
Eddie was dying of being at that bodyweight but mostly from huge amount of anabolics he had to take to compete at that level. He could not go on, so he went hard and quick. Guys like THor can pack on more bodyweight (Thor could put on 50 more pounds and be 500lbs and be much healthier than Eddie was and be able to pull 530-540) and do much less anabolics than Eddie took and have long careers.
And how is it relevant what Eddie could've done? He didn't do it. When you go into the realm of hypothetical nonsense, anything becomes possible. It's a dumb argument to make.
Eddie said in an interview that he personally feels the elephant bar deadlift is more difficult than a standard bar deadlift, which is the opposite for most strongmen. Because there is more flex in an elephant bar and the weights extend further out to the side, the lifter will be closer to lockout by the time the full weight is supported, thus making the lift easier in theory. Eddie said in his case he wasn't used to the amount of flex and had to work harder in order to keep his balance, which made the lift more difficult for him.
Yes, it is a much different lift fundamentally. You have to purposefully slow yourself off the floor, you can't just explode. Eddie is a very explosive lifter and is fast off of the floor, so the amount of flex in the bar will significantly hinder him as he will have to either go slower or be thrashed by the bouncing weights
Yeah I bet he would have done 600 at least and ofcourse it doesn't matter if theres a official pro referee with calibrated scale because we all know that if relative touches the plates it magically becomes lighter. Everyone bitching are doing it not because the home gym or father touching the plates but because now its clear that Thor surely is in Eddies category, he clearly is able to lift thatkinda weight and from the looks of it Thor is capable of lifting even more by not being half dead after.
The beast did 500kg 3 years ago In strong man eddie didn't go past 472.5 becuz he already beat thor, if eddie woud train like he did before he woud get much more
Thor practices on an elephant bar and Eddie has said on record that he hates the whip and can't deadlift as easy on the elephant bar, not saying thor can't lift the 501 or 520
@@davidkosiba624 right, I never said he wasn't, thor has had a lot of practice with the bar and its strength and repetition that helps with the elephant bar, the whip is a totally different factor. I've used a power bar and a Texas deadlift bar, when weight starts adding up it changes a lot on either of those. I can't fathom how much it changes if the bar is about 3_5 mm thinner and at least 2 ft longer than a trafional bar.
It is well known at this point that Eddie Hall is 6'1" barefoot, maybe half an inch more as peak height in the morning. As for hafthor he seems to be mid to high 6'7", maybe low 6'8" as his peak in the morning. So the difference between their height is around 17cm, that's a lot.
2:59 a "little bit" taller? you see people being 190cm everyday, 205cm is on a whole different level. being 15cm taller than an already tall guy with 190cm is fucking insane and a BIG difference.
The issue going around the internet is not the fact that Thor cannot lift 501kg. The issue is that it will be done at his home via live stream, and if he pulls the 501kg the group putting on the streaming event will push for it as a world record. I have no doubt that Thor could pull the 501kg. If Eddie had to pull 500kg at an event and the next person to attempt anything over 501kg will have to do so at an event, the record that Thor worked really hard to achieve will have a stain on it.
The 530kg would be impossible to pull, I am 100% certain that Thor wouldn't be able to pull 520kg - I'd say his max would be 510kg, definitely not beyond that. Great vid!
And will always be the first to pull 500. People seem to forget when Eddie pulled 500 almost everyone thought it was impossible, it was a ground breaking lift in the world of strength sports. I do think Thor will be the next guy to hold the WR Deadlift though.
Eddie raised the world record by a LOT at 28 years old, Thor 3 years later is still talking shit a 31 and didn't become anything close to stronger at 31 when Eddie has already retired, stronger in everything else so a 1kg bigger itching deadlift is not going to compensate Eddie's exploit and all the other fields in which he is stronger.
Difference being thor has had years to prepare for this. Eddie lifted it, competed for a year and retired. Thor has been preparing for this for a long time
with the size of The Mountain,pretty sure Halfthor would easily lift even 503kg , eddie hall just seems butthurt. The difference in their size says alot.
Thor has said several times he thinks the elephant bar is harder for him than a typical bar, especially since he's lifting the elephant bar raw with straps vs equipped
I think Eddies technique is slightly better but Thor is stronger. Thor seems to start with his hips a little low. I'm looking forward to seeing him break it with ease.
He does not have the strength advantage lol if anything he has the weight and size advantage, let’s not forget Eddie ALREADY lifted 500kg in competition smoothly.... and is stronger statically in every other lift also
Size is not an advantage for deadlift, Before the recent drama, on mark bells podcast few months ago, Eddie said that Thor is stronger in the deadlift than Eddie was
megin na how is he tho if he can’t beat him for reps or pr lol that straight up doesn’t make sense, there has never been anyone that could deadlift like Eddie and that’s just facts, the man was born for it
@@evanollen2355 Might be hard for you to wrap your head around but it's simple, who says he can't beat him for reps?, and we're talking about max strength here.
megin na bro have you watched Eddie deadlift? Name the weight and he would out lift Thor for reps every time, that just proves to me you don’t know anything lol he would put rep him on squats too
The issue around the lifting of weight and whether it should stand as a record is simple. If this is simply how much can you lift? Then it's a record. If however this is a sport? It's not a record. It's that simple. No records in sports are achieved outside of competition
Even if Thor would pull 1kg more, Eddie still did it on first attempt 4 years earlier, still is the first to ever do it and would obviously have been capable of beating his own record if he really wanted to, especially if he trained for it 3-4 extra years instead of retiring. Eddie dominated in squats, deadlift, overhead, bench, most events and always had way more static strength. Pulling 1kg more when Eddie pushed the WR so much back then is not going to mean ''He surpassed him''. Looks everywhere, Eddie had beastly PR's and maxes that Thor will never reach but all you're looking at is reasons to hate Edd because you are jealous that he was better. Eddie also attempted Log press world record with torn ligaments in his leg and broken ankle, he still managed to strict lift it overhead but could not lockout because he lost his stability due to his recent injuries. He could bench more than Thor's max for pause reps without any spot or equipment, with ease. He always had superior press, pull, more complete overall strength. He's still the only man in the world to accomplish the Deadlift Pyramid (From 1 to 10, to 1 plate deadlift). He still defeated him in WSM and many other things. Eddie raised the world record by a LOT at 28 years old, Thor 4 years later is still talking shit a 32 and didn't become anything close to stronger after all these attempts and this extra time when Eddie has already retired, stronger in everything else so an itching deadlift PR is not going to compensate Eddie's exploit and all the other fields in which he always been stronger.
Eddies 465 was a world record attempt, Thor’s 465 was 35kg less than the world record. Completely different psychological states in each lift, you can’t compare them at all. The record will get broken at some point as that’s progress but Thor should have one many world strongest men titles as he’s got the advantages of height and weight etc, but he hasn’t because he bottles it at a lot of these competitions. I hope he does break the 501, but I don’t think it’s a definite.
01:24 This is 2015 i think and the elephant bar is used since 2014. Eddie didn't have the time to train with that bar. Also 01:48 Eddie is without a belt or a suit. I like them both , talked with both but i still think Eddie is stronger at deadlift. He did 463 at 2015 then year later he decided to do 500kg. Because everyone was doing it like Thor , putting +1 to the record so the next year they can beat it easily and get some money. Also Thor was training to beat that record since 2017 when Eddie won by 1 point at Wsm. Thor put a lot of size and i think he will do it.. but i don't think he will be in good shape for wsm. As we saw at Arnold this year the wheel of pain almost killed it
Has everyone gone to see Brians Shaw's take on this. He's glad that Thor's ble to do this feat, but he thinks it should be an unofficial WR due to its in the comfortability of Thors gym, he doesn't have to worrry about the randomness of who goes next like in competition, etc. Shaw's take was a great argument and made me rethink on the legitimacy of WR of 501 in his own gym.
@Leotis Bennett yeah dont get me wrong he definitely can be the one to be the greatest deadlifter and do 501, but I will have to say that Eddie deserves the record regardless because he had to do it in competition using weights that are different than his own, his own environment and etc. If Thor gets to set the record in his own gym then it makes it more complicated to standardize the whole WR of strongmen. Go check out the vid on Shaws channel, its about 20 minutes long from about 2 weeks ago, and let me know what you think
trick361 Shaw’s argument is flawed since Eddie used his own bar & platform. He dictated weight jumps & rest periods. The event was set up for him. th-cam.com/video/Lg1RwD4nVbo/w-d-xo.html
Eddie's event was hacked more than Thor's seeing as Eddie had his own personalised bar and rest, while Thor will have the standard deadlift bar (less bend than Eddie's, more difficult lift especially for taller people) and the standard 15 mins of rest. Stop being a hypocrite, dipshit. Maybe you don't give a shit about him and how his reputation could be ruined because of a LITERAL PANDEMIC, but we do. He was going to do it in Dubai, WUS. And this IS a competition lift. It has just been moved to Thor's Power Gym to account for the, you know, GLOBAL PANDEMIC THAT HAS EVERYONE ON LOCKDOWN. Please don't forget to mention that next time the way you conveniently did here. It'll be official. You can't stop it. They'll take Big Z and Magnus Ver Magnusson's words over yours. There's 9X WSM winners in that one building to referee and calibrate the lift. Won't be official? Hah! Thank god that pathetic couch potato weasels like you who can't do anything besides envy from the sidelines aren't in charge.
@@trick361 the fact that Thor is doing it in his gym with his equipment actually makes the circumatances closer to the ones Eddie had in 2016 than they would have been in a competition. That 2016 event was a complete disgrace.
Brian Shaw is a hypocrite if you know all the things he has said about Eddie back in 2016 (deadlift) and 2017 (WSM). You obviously don't know this stuff and are basing your opinion on his latest video - which supports Eddie whom became history channel buddies with Brian after Brian shit on Eddie. This record will be much more legitimate than Eddie's for all the corruption surrounding Eddie's lift in which Brian openly spoke about. Bet you did not know that - and your just agreeing with whatever he says 'now'. How many strongman friends does Brian have besides the history channel buddies. Zero....he has zero friends cause they all think and know he is a dick. Nick does not even like him....wake the fuck up.
When you say that Thor has been training raw all his life as an explanation for why his setup is slower on the 400 set, and doesn't look as convincing as the elephant bar comparison, don't forget that Thor is also 6-7 inches taller and what this does on the deadlift setup. BTW, it is hilarious to see Eddie with his suit on under his shirt.
I'm a fan of Eddie's but Thor is just bigger and stronger.When Eddie lifted his 501 k he actually lifted way beyond what he's physically capable of.An incredible show of mental mind over matter.I take nothing from Eddie.To lift that amount is just insane.Thor is truly a giant though,who knows how much more he could do,especially if he chooses to specialize in this.
Speed has nothing to do with how much someone can pull, look at Stefi Cohen lol.. I really don’t understand how people are hyped about equipped deadlift record but talk shit about equipped powerlifting.. Blaine Sumner hit this weight on the squat and he benched 415kg but you or any channel haven’t posted nothing about it.
Considering Eddie and Thor are practically the same age, if Eddie trained until now for that deadlift I’m sure Eddie could get way more than 501 if he could get 500 4 years ago
I feel like you don't fully appreciate the difference between a five rep and a three rep set. Maybe you've never lifted heavy weights so you can't comprehend how different that is but I assure you, the extra two reps are a pretty big deal. Not saying Thor can't lift 501kg but your comparisons here are tropes. Enjoy the views I guess.
15cm is not just a little bit taller.
Luc no Eddie was an elite swimmer which means he has long arms and torso with small legs
In a world of giants it is.
Luc even if Thor pulled exactly the same weight as Eddie (500) he would have to do more work than hall, reason is the bar has to travel further to lockdown for Thor than eddy Work= force x distance. And if someone is 15 cm taller then that argument of the tall persons arms are long so the deadlift range of motion will be the same is completely wrong, if Thor was only 5 cm taller then yeah u can say that, but 15cm is a-bit too much
Eddie Hall inflates his height significantly.
Macgyver Smit so we ignore the fact that thor is able to get more muscle into his bigger frame? That few cm isnt that big of a deal + the length of their arms is the most significant factor
I think what the most impressive is how much Eddie actually beat the previous world record by
I think what's not most impressive is how the show was catered to Eddie's every need including weight jumps and resting time, while people get upset when Thor only chooses what weight to do
@@echo9567 no matter how great an achievement is, someone will always say you should of done it differently
@@leebo130 true
But Thor doesn't have the Hercules gene, so if he pulls 501kg it means he is stronger than Eddy + Hercules
@@mikeoxmaul1788 read my second comment
Am I the only one who thinks he's trying to hold in a fart while he's talking?
stop looking for attention with your piece of shit comment you piece of shit
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update: thor just lifted 501
pretty sure everyone knows this..
Woooowww no way really? Ya... we know, however took him 4 times to finally do it. Aside from the fact he broke it with 1kg ..
Don’t get me wrong I cannot even lift 2 plates, kudos to him. But let’s just “forget” that Eddie broke the record by a large margin at the time. And at first try !
@@MichelLinschoten 4 times? this is the first time he tried to pull standard deadlift record (standard bar)
Michel Linschoten and that Eddie almost died after while Thor did some interviews and played cod
Michel Linschoten yeah but just because somebody broke a record by a bit doesn’t mean anything. For example Bolt is considered the record holder in 100m and the best not the person before him. So Eddie and his fans need to stfu
15cm is a significant height difference.
it's more like 20cm, every time Eddie is with a strongman that is 6'3 they clearly have 1-2 inches on him
@@meginna8354 Ed rounds up compulsively. Weight on the bar on his past achievement reposts, and height/weight too. His insta/yt pic is photoshopped to make him look beefier than he was when the image was taken
@@eugenemurray2708 He compensate for his low self-esteem and inflates his ego.
@Kalevipoeg Nope, his morning height is 6'1.5 with socks on, even everyone who is 6'2 is taller evenif he stands straighter
Keep in mind Thor’s arms are wayyyy longer than Eddie’s. It’s not as if he has to lift the bar the total of the height difference between them. Which people seem to think. Thor has larger joints to bear weight loads, muscles (insertion and origin,) larger tendons, larger ligaments, thicker bones likely even. He has a massive skeletal frame which allows him to be so strong. Guys get way to hung up on height as if his massive frame has not allowed him to grow into the beast he has.
Eddie moved 500kgs on the floor easier than he moved his own 465kgs on the elephant bar. So the comparison means nothing. Eddie was the first to do 500kgs! Thor will be the second and will surpass Eddie! Both are amazing at what they do.
craiggrogan thank you someone who supports both of them like I do
Yes but, who is better
Rodrigo Toledo Thor might be better at deadlift but Eddie has him in a lot more events
This is Messi vs Ronaldo all over again
@@aquarterofclout5411 we all know Messi is way better😫
My wife's boyfriend also tells me that 15cm is "just a little bit taller"
Yes
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Makes no sense but username checks out
But in reality Thor is more than 15cm taller eddie lies about his height
Don’t feel too bad. Most strongmen probably have a micropenis with the amount of shit they take.
It is a shame Eddie didn't try to beat his record in 2017. He legitimately looked stronger (than when he did the 500 in 2016)
That bar at WSM 2017 looked really stiff as well. It's true that they weren't calibrated plates though, but nobody else got passed 465kg(?), and Eddie clearly had much more him in (on that day)
Good luck to Thor though, the record has stood long enough.
(I've edited for clarity. I've got no intention of getting involved in the bullshit argument that's going on around the record attempt 👍😂)
The reason he didn't try to beat his own record is that its really dangerous. Eddie was bleeding from his brain and was blind for three hours after the 500kg lift.
Oddi Toddi i believe that happened because he held the weight for a lot of time. He didnt try it again because it wasnt worth the danger. He already achieved his dream, for him there is no need to risk his life again
@Brian Waldner lmao wtf u talking about
Brian Waldner , you clearly know nothing about lifting. If you kept up with his performance. Eddie completely fresh and well prepped definitely had a shot at 520kg or even 530kg who knows. He has been known to throw an extra plate on his max so wouldn’t be that big of a surprise if he did. You thinking you could have done that with no training at all to pack that up Is super cheap. Not the same circumstance
@Brian Waldner lmaoooooo what are you saying?
Awesome video! Thor is just man handling these weights, not even struggling to lock out. He got the 501 in the bag and honestly I think he got 510-520 too.
if eddie didnt retire (which he should have) we might have already seen a 430 already because of how easy at 500kg was for eddie (going up not the aftermath)
@@mynameisbobtheking7896 u mean 530?
If he goes for 520 kg, what weight should he do before that lift? maybe 485 kg or something like that to prepare for the record lift.
@@mynameisbobtheking7896 lmao, he just got 501 and could not handle anymore bodyweight or anymore juice on his frame. Eddie had to retire bro. He could not handle the amount of anabolics he needed to take to compete at this level. He was dying. Many other guys like Thor, for example, take much less and have long careers. Guys like Thor can grow to 500lbs bodyweight and be immensely healthier than Eddie was...
@@thomasrosendahl2783 Thor said 501 and after 520 but don t think he succeed to much, burn out. Better do 510 and that s all
Regardless of Thor pulling this or not, I just want Thor to stay healthy and NOT pull a hamstring like a ton of people have done. Good luck to Thor.
A hamstring... past strongman have died younger than Thor and you're worried about his hamstring suffering a minor pull. Are you a professional arsehole or is it just a hobby?
You need to chill out bro 😂
csjs74 yeah bro chill out
Sorry bro's my chill was all out....I'm ok now.
@@csjs74 sorry the no chill demon that was in you went into my body for a brief time. Hopefully it hasn't passed on to any other guy reading this thread.
When Eddie pulled 500 - 70+ pounds over the previous WR (his also,) - it was thought to basically be impossible at the time. It was amazing and shocking. So far ahead of what any other athlete had ever been able to do. When do popular strength WR’s get demolished by such a weight jump? Just amazing.
It was beamonesque, truly
Eddie deadlifted 472kg at 2017 worlds and made it look like a speed rep (that should be in here). Just like Thor did with the 470kg. Insane numbers.
Brand dindlebury would lift twice of their max deadlift.
he would curl these weights
He does one-arm lateral raise with it. Smh
Maybe i am wrong guys ,he might train his penus with those weights.
on benchpres
And who the hell is brand dindlebury you jipsy?
If you look at how Eddie ate when he was competing vs how Thor eats now. You will understand why Eddie fell over on the 500kg lift. Thor is miles ahead in his nutrition from what I see
Eddie was also dehydrated
And Thor didn't rush it, Eddie had lifted 455 at most during his trainings and added the 45kg with his hypnosis thing
Marcin Prusinski Thor may do the same thing for his 520kg attempt
@@RedHead2003 that comment made me laugh hard man
Not an excuse he literally can do the same
People seem to forget when Eddie pulled 500 almost everyone thought it was impossible, it was a ground breaking lift in the world of strength sports. I do think Thor will be the next guy to hold the WR Deadlift though.
Also, Eddie was stronger than Thor when he retired. Dude's had years to train while Eddie cut back to enjoy life.
@@nesamdoom eddie was on so many drugs/calories he was literally passing out from deadlifting. He has said many, many, many times if he continued lifting the way he was his doctor said he'd be dead in 1-2 years. He didn't cut back because he wanted to, he cut back because he literally had to.
Thor has 3 Arnold classic wins in a row. He has WAY more world records then eddie does/ever did, and they're matched at 1 WSM title.
Not to mention I believe thor has beaten/placed higher then Eddie in every competition besides 1 during their 6-8 year rivalry.
In no world is/was Eddie stronger or a better athlete then thor is. If he was, he'd have more wins. It's as simple as that.
@@josephmangano3261 ok Eddie wasn't stronger, just did in fact deadlift more and beat him at wsm. Which was his goal. He retired after reaching the goal he set. And he was stronger than Thor when he retired. Fuck even last year Thor got shit on by 501, so barely got to Eddie's level if he even did.
@@nesamdoom You understand Eddie lost 2016 WSM man right? Eddie basically spent an entire year training deadlift only to hit 500kg and then the year AFTER that he won wsm 2017. Thor placed higher then Eddie did in 2016 WSM. That'a literally a fact. Not to mention it wasn't even close. Thor had 51 points to eddie's 43.
As I said. Eddie literally beat thor exactly one in their entire 6-8 year rivalry. If they were boxers and fought 15x and eddie lost 14x then won once, he'd be worse by every viable metric. It's the same thing here. Thor has beaten eddie 14x+ and eddie has beaten him once.
Here's a link to the ASC en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Strongman_Classic
Although eddie competed at this event for ~7 years the literally never in came in top 3.
Let that sink in. Not only does Thor have more major contest wins(4), but he has more major contest wins then Eddie has podium finishes(2).
If we include thor's podium finishes he goes to 11. How are you going to argue 2 > 11.
This isn't powerlifting. Eddie is not a powerlifter. He's a strong man.
@@josephmangano3261 lol u keep admitting Eddie outlifted him and beat him... Could Thor pull 500 when Eddie did, no. Stronger.
"Thor is just a little bit taller" 15 fckn centimeter haha
Literally about the same difference as a 5'11" compared to a 6 foot by Tinder standards
@@eugenemurray2708 No one cares about what bitches think about guys on tinder this is strongman
@@yms6892 Tinder is irrelevant haha
Who ever can eat a big mac faster would be declared stronger.
Brian oberst wins😂
Big Mac, u fucking dickhead
Eddie loses to Shutkever
Whomever can eat a load of taco bell and white castle and hold in the resulting mud slide the longest will be champ.
Thor and Eddie are both animals and super strong. Not a stab at Thor at all but I do think a world record attempt should be done with the same bar and exact same set up in my opinion. Doing it in Thor’s gym or whatever is fine. But same bar needs to be used. For certain people it can make a big difference.
He is going to use the same type of bar though. Except if you mean the exact same bar.
So Olympic records can only count if they're done on the exact same apparatus in the same location?
PLing WRs can only happen if they're done with the same bar on the same.platform and the same bench?
Have a think about what you're saying for just a moment 🤦♂️
LMC same bench? Lol come on man I literally said it’s fine doing it in thors gym. I’m just questioning the elephant bar which Thor will be using vs the deadlift bar Eddie used. There are a few differences between them!
@@mattwillis7565 - he's not using an elephant bar though. Not sure where you got that idea from 🤔
Just hope thor can lift it safely without blowing out his organs
He made 501 look easy af.
@@fuku512 road to 520 kg
It will only surprise me if a human deadlift 1000 kg
Sooooo I dont know anything about deadlifting but ..... has something like blowing out your organs ever happened before?:D
@@adhx7506 i dont think so,but theres a lot of cases where the organs were placed under high tension
I can see Thor lifting 501 kg no problem. However would we be paying all this attention to this without Eddie making it popular.
Eddie making it popular? Haha what does that even mean? Real fans of strength sports are pumped for this attempt!
People forget thor failed 501 once on elefantbar which is easier then regular
CluedUp? Real fans ? Of course people from the weight lifting community are watching. But Eddie has introduced it to a bigger audience with his self promotion on various internet platforms. Which also brings in more money into the sport
@@miaumiauu23 no it isn't moron, all strongmen pull less, Eddie´s best was 465 and he arguably didn't lock it out
@@miaumiauu23 easier? Definitely debatable. Martins says its harder. Also, thors foot slipped during the lift. He had the strength. Double also, thor has done a full prep for this lift, the EBar attempt he was training for the strongman classic
Why did you not compare Eddie’s 465 elephant bar vs Thor’s 474 elephant bar speed rep? Seems silly to choose Thor’s weakest elephant bar lift
hg_10sm also seems silly to choose eddie not at his best and on a bar he never used
Æðöþør Sölþå Thor is stronger on that specific bar & he’s stronger without a suit. 480 raw in training. 455 x 2 easy reps. Both were done on a bar with less flex than the real elephant bar
hg_10sm not disagreeing but it’s like Eddie is better on a deadlift bar whereas Thor is on elephant it’s very hard to compare but nowadays I say Thor has the slight edge
Æðöþør Sölþå Eddie isn’t better on a deadlift bar though. All will become clear May 2nd ;)
hg_10sm I mean he’s better on a deadlift bar than on elephant
Thor will annihilate the 501, no question
You think he will hit the 530 he said he will try?
@@onemorerep6597 heh, 530, wouldn't bet all my money. 515 would be safer imo
520 isnt impossible but 530 seems too much
Thor has the 501 in the bag. I'm now wondering if he will do a fourth attempt after the 501 and how much he will try to pull then. 520 is, imo, certainly within his limits.
Not really. At wsm 2017 thor lifted 460 for a speed rep yet failed 472. This speaks about his power and technique. Also last year he went for 501 and started bleeding from his forhead after barely getting it to his knees. He defenetly is strong enough to do the lift but nothing is certain so we'll just have to wait and see
Who Cares , can’t believe someone can be this stupid. Eddie supporting his body weight at that height put enormous strain on him. Being that unhealthy and successful breaking a record that nobody taller with a much better frame to maintain that mass can beat for 4 years now is beyond anything we will see for a while. I feel like your just so in love with Thor you forget to acknowledge the whole picture
@Who Cares Yeah well he almost died because he held it for a few seconds after they referee said it was a fair lift. I don't knot if hafthor wants to show ofg and hold it for another 3 seconds.
@@MrYatta831 The 501kg was on the elephant bar which Thor himself has said he finds much harder so not a great comparison.. and also the 2017 version of Thor is nothing like e is now... he's been putting all his focus onto the deadlift for months... i agree with ur last statement though... he's definitely capable but you gotta do it on that day at that time which is never easy or a given
@@jarrodgeikie870 Well majority of strong men say that elephant is a bit easier so you cant say its ALOT harder for him, maybe unconfortable. The reason i mentioned wsm 2017 is to show that theres a close line between a speed rep and a failed one. Check it out for yourself. I have a similar problem because my lower back is way stronger then upper so i can pull it fast of the ground but get stuck on the end portion of the lift
Eddie didn’t want to go higher on his deadlift,he just wanted to be the first guy to lift 500kg.There are 5 guys on the planet who were or still are capable of pulling 500+ kg
Who are the other 4?because only Thor is capable of
Eddie,Thor,Jerry Pritchett,Benedikt Magnússon,and Brian Shaw
No... Only Thor is
MBHerbig well Eddie already pull 500 kg Thor will most likely do it, Benedict magusson attempted it and got it off the ground,so did Pritchett so they are capable if they focused on deadlift,and a prime Brian Shaw could do it if he focuses on his deadlift but u can have your opinion and I can I mine.
Eddie said if he could redo his 500 kg deadlift he would have added 10 kg
Man if benni magnusson hadn’t suffered thru injuries it would’ve been amazing to see how close he would’ve gotten to breaking this record
Probably would beat thor and eddie
His raw wr deadlift under powerlifting rules is still more impressive to me than eddies 500 kg.
Terry White Jr agreed, so much smoother raw
Benni blowing out his hammy last year was heartbreaking. I genuinely wanted it to be him to break 500.
My question is. Why does everyone bag on Thor for pulling on an elephant bar
But never mention Eddie was pulling in a suit vs Thor raw.
All things considered, they were both doing things that made their lifts "easier".
Its nice Thor is just gonna pull in the exact same setup as Eddie did. Just
So it's all equal now. But people are already finding reasons to complain
the elephant bar is hated because it is very much a different lift, because the weight takes so long to be fully off the floor, whereas the suit and other things that eddie uses don't actually change the movement at all but just make it easier, and are perfectly legitimate to use
@@anthonycmiller sounds like the both do exactly the same thing.... Make the lift easier. Yet people have decided one is ok and one isn't.
@@bluestangGT2001 Both lifts are vastly different and in no way comparable. An elephant bar isn't easier or harder than a regular stiff bar. Depending on the athlete, he may have a harder time or not on either bar.
A stiff bar generally helps with explosive lifters. You gain momentum as you explode upwards and complete the lift. An elephant bar will fuck your lift up if you explode off the floor due to the whip. Thor is a more static puller.
And you're absolutely right. People are bitching about the bar yet excuse the use of a suit. Benni Magnusson holds the raw record but "HURRR DURR EDDIE PULLED 500 BRO DURRRRrrr".
This comment makes no sense
mgu0000 benni pulled 465 in a powerlifting meet (no suit or straps) but didn’t pull 500 in suit and straps so not sure what you’re getting at here
People saying Thor has 520 in him are insane, I definitely think he has 501, maybe 510, but 520 is out of the question imo
NC DOZER Eddie’s 450 before 500 in training moved at the same speed as Thor’s 470 in training. 520 isn’t out of the question. 501 on the day once fully peaked will be easy as fuck
I think Thor maaaybe has 520 in him, but I do not believe he can do it AFTER doing 501, which I am sure he will do. (Edit: Ofc on the same day in the same session). He might do 520 if the last warm up lift is no heavier than 480.
barath4545 fair point
@@barath4545 I agree. But it doesn't matter. He will do it next year then.
hg_10sm that’s not how Progression at those weights work, shits not linear lol. I still give 501 a 20-30% chance of failure
The way this guy says 'Thor' is slowly eating me up alive
Its kinda how its supposed to be pronounced
Thor is written þór and is more spoken as Tor with a slight t(h) pronunciation lol. Hes closer than most americans.
@@AurelionTheStoic ahhh I see! Never knew that man thanks 👍
I am not convinced Eddie is even 6'3, judging by the pics I saw with him and Larry Wheels who is 6'1 they seem to be exactly the same height, so that's what 20 cm of difference (If Eddie Hall truly is 6'1 not 6'3)
That's correct met Eddie in London and he was significantly shorter than me. Iam 6'4
Finally someone who gives context rather than just putting 2 clips to show who is stronger
eddie never trained with an elephant bar before the arnold and thor has been training with one for a while
treetrunk Bullshit th-cam.com/video/PKwQpqN_BXs/w-d-xo.html
@@hg_10sm68 Nice.
Also, the comparison was from 2016, right? How long had Thor had an Elephant bar then? I doubt anyone knows for sure, but it is unlikely to have been much of "a while" more than Ed, since 2016 was the first year the bar existed.
@@hg_10sm68 well done
lmao - just spewing out shit you know nothing about again..
But Eddy had the advantage of having the Hercules gene
Holly shit dude, you actually made the video!!! Thanks man!!!
Who cares how fast a weight is lifted? Thor is always methodical even with 400lbs. If you go by speed off the the ground, Larry Wheels is deadlifting 1500lbs... and he can't. If your conclusion is based on speed you have no idea.
Don't use Eddie's deadlift at WSM 2017 for comparison, it was with bumper plates and a long bar that noone has seen before or since so don't compare it to a deadlift bar with calibrated plates
Who is here after, Thor beat Eddie's WR??!!
@LDN EDD even tho it's not official like Eddie's due to prevailing situation, it got acknowledged by the one person Thor really wanted, by Eddie himself. And i think the weights were calibrated and measured before the lift by the sponsors. But yea, Thor should do an official lift with official judges after this Corona virus biz. He would be able to pull that off considering how easy it looked for him. Maybe he'll go for 520kgs???!!! Idk.
Its hard to compare speed when 2 lifters have different sticking points. If 510 was an absolute max for them but they tried 520, eddie would fail mid thigh but Thor would fail just below the knee.
Because of this Thor starts to slow near the knee but once above he is strong enough to lock out where as with eddie there is more of a subtle difference between an easy lift and a hard lift
Thor is going to crush 501. I can see him doing 520 as well
Edit: LIGHTWEIGHT BABY!!!!!!
To the people are talking about the height difference... Eddie and Brian did a comparison between the heights of a bar at their lock out and Eddies bar was less than an inch lower than Brian's and Brian is only 2 cm shorter than Thor so the fact that there is a 15cm difference between Eddie and Thor, doesn't seem to matter that much to how high they lift the bar off the ground. I think Thor can lift it, don't get me wrong. I do think that it should be in a comp though.
Who else came here after the live stream?
You don't see people compare Eddie to someone, yet you see everyone comparing other strongmen to Eddie. Why? because Eddie is number 1 and he's not even competing anymore. If Eddie was competing he would of beaten his 500kg lift already. No one is as strong as Eddie statically
dumb statment, people compare Eddie to Zydrunas all the time
@@meginna8354 no one does especially since the video came out of the heaviest pulls they've done and Eddie pulled and pushed more
@@aneurinaustin bullshit, that's some dumb intuitive bullshit from you, Eddie hall will be compared to everybody just like all other strongmen for years to come
The 472 of eddie at the end of the video, the plate are not calibrated?
That was at WSM, the most reputable competition in the sport of strongman.
@@dbjmk8083 also the most corrupt by a long shot
@@dbjmk8083 lmao - the most corrupt competition in strongman next to Giants Live. Both are being taken over by WUS - cause the strongman are sick and tired of their bullshit - idiot.
@@joebot9309 save the douchery and at least provide evidence if you know of all this corruption.
DBJMK reputable😂 the comp is a shambles. They misloaded the yoke last year by 80kg hahaha
They both deserve there props and no need to argue. Eddie's record has stood for 4 years which is amazing thinking that prior to that it got broke ever 6 months for like 5 year in a row.
Let’s just see how it turns out. Personally I don’t care for hypotheticals, though I don’t really lean either way.
Today he got 501kg what a nice time u have
You didnt just bring up height!? Its limb length not how tall you are. This totally ruined your so called expertise about "measuring" both Mens strength.
Guy doesn't understand the difficulty difference between 5 and 3 rep either. BUT THE SPEED!!!!! (kill me)
So velocity based analysis is bs?
@@StrengthCentral if your just making a general statement that Thor is taller and bc hes taller he has a more diff time deadlifting then that is BS. Everyone has diff limb lengrgs , attachments etc. I know very short guys..heck im 5ft 5 and mybarms are as long as a few of my friends arms who are 5ft 9. 5 ft 10. Same w my legs. Start high up on hip. Call this short waisted. Is like saying...just bc a guy is 5ft 5 / short that doesnt mean he automatically has short arms and will b a good bench presser. You would have to measure arm length of eddie and thor. As well as leg length and were the legs attatch at insertion points to really find out if Thor has to move the bar more than Eddie at all or not.
Eddie hall is a beast.
People make records and people break records.
The time Eddie made the record Thor was nowhere near him.
If he picks up more than Eddie good for him.
Eddie got nothing to loose.
His nose bleeded bcuz he hold that 500kg for long time
If she should lift and dropped it that problem wasn't issue that is being showed in thumbnail
But Thor is gonna kill that Deadlift for 💯 sure
Eddie was bleeding on the way up. Check out the close-up of his face as he pulls it. Not saying that holding it didn't fuck him up, though, just that he was bleeding pretty much from the start.
he was shaking like a leaf in the wind, his body would barely let him the entire way up
A very well done, to the point video, with lots of video comparisons! subscribed!
3:00 What are you smoking dude?
"Thor is just a little bit taller"...
LOL
BTW. Eddie is not more than 185-6.
BTW, Eddie is 1.9m or 6ft 3. It doesn't take a genius to to do a search for that info.
@@stubones I know both metric and imperial. My point is that Eddie is not honest about his height. He's not a short guy but I doubt he's 190. I think he has some sort of bigorexia combined with an inferiority complex.
Thor's dead lift the year Eddie did 500 kg is what should be used for comparison. Thor had a lot more time to train and the standard was lower back then. Eddie raised the bar 😂 If Thor hits the 530 kg then that's when people should make the comparison because the standard was raised even higher (even though it wasn't done in competition).
eddie was training with light belt and no deadlift suit
Yeah, the 400 with velcro belt (eddie) vs 400 with full gear (thor) isn't a fair comparison...
LOl did you not see Thor lifted 480kg with no suit
@@midori4713 elephant bar ...
@@Skrepetis just wait 2 days and see a WR get smashed
@@josegarciaflores5977 I never said that Thor won't do it ,I'm pointing out that this comparison video has no meaning , Thor is probably stronger than Eddie right now. if he doesn't pull 501 while showing such strong lifts I would feel sad for him
Eddie's correct the stress of Competition and at the world's strongest man is different than pulling weight in your gym when your ready.
Iceland has the worlds highest gravitational pull, which alone more than makes this a harder lift.
@@eugenemurray2708 myself and Eddie we dont trust Thors Icelandic teammates with a correct 501kg weight Total.
@@matt7iron Good thing I don't trust you Englandic's either.
3:35 That's not a speed rep. Eddie is just fast off the floor but struggles with lockouts. Thor has more of a strong lockout (comparatively), which you can see in some of his recent training videos. They just don't deadlift the same way. Not saying that deadlift wasn't very convincing, on the contrary, it was great. But no need for hyperbole.
That would be considered a speed rep by strongman standards. Most heavy deadlifts by strongmen often involve a lot of hitching and are very slow off the floor. While that isn't a speed rep by normal gym standards, it certainly is at that weight.
People can say whatever they want, bitch
Just for the record, 2:55 Eddie's clip was 410 kg not 450 kg lmao. Bar (20kg) + 7 red (25kg) + 1 yellow (15kg) + 1 black (2,5kg) + competetion collars (2,5kg) is 410kg.
Didn't Eddie Hall do the 400kgx5 without a suit?
Michael Concepcion yes he’s forgetting this but suit doesn’t make much of a difference
Æðöþør Sölþå are you an idiot? Suit does make a significant difference, otherwise they would’ve pulled this raw, you could potentially gain up to 50kgs or more from a suit if you sit into it correctly
Ben Anhalt where did you grab this bullshit info from
Æðöþør Sölþå men det er sant
Æðöþør Sölþå suit makes a huge difference bro
Just noticed that the auto-generated caption translate:"welcome back to your favorite lifting channel" to "welcome back to your favorite lesbian channel" dont really know what to think about this
2:40 eddie didnt use a belt neither a lifting suit.
you must be blind then, last time i check he is using a belt.
@@ivomartins1190 That's a soft belt. It is a belt, but not nearly as helpful as a leather one.
Ivo Martins you must be an idiot because bjornson is using a lifting belt with a lifting suit which makes the lift significally easier meanwhile eddie is using a soft belt with nothing else which makes non or little difference.
@@manuelalvarino9709 eddie used a suit for the 500 and a normal belt. You can see them taking the straps off when he collapses
you can see his suit poking out from his shorts
Not that I'm saying Eddie is stronger because I do think Thor will smoke 501, but in regards to the 465 elephant bar clips - didn't Eddie do that only minutes after doing 460? It would be interesting to see what it would have looked like if he skipped 460 (assuming Shaw did 463 already).
yeah but how strong would eddie be now...4 years later if he never stopped competing. what is right is right that 472kg eddie rep was done after the wsm qualifying and then the events before that pull in the African heat, I think thor will do 501kg but for me even if he does he is not stonger than eddie in wsm 2017, eddie the best presser, pretty much dominated the sqauiting events too, and by far the best deadlifter.
also people that say 500kg almost killed eddie that because he held it at the top and had huge adrenaline rush because he had miliions riding on that deadlift
Mr Rawww Thor has a 460 kg squat with 4 weeks of prep...
Eddie would be 100% dead. He did the right thing to quit eating all that food and steorids.
Eddie was dying of being at that bodyweight but mostly from huge amount of anabolics he had to take to compete at that level. He could not go on, so he went hard and quick. Guys like THor can pack on more bodyweight (Thor could put on 50 more pounds and be 500lbs and be much healthier than Eddie was and be able to pull 530-540) and do much less anabolics than Eddie took and have long careers.
And how is it relevant what Eddie could've done? He didn't do it.
When you go into the realm of hypothetical nonsense, anything becomes possible. It's a dumb argument to make.
hg_10sm , who cares?
Eddie said in an interview that he personally feels the elephant bar deadlift is more difficult than a standard bar deadlift, which is the opposite for most strongmen. Because there is more flex in an elephant bar and the weights extend further out to the side, the lifter will be closer to lockout by the time the full weight is supported, thus making the lift easier in theory. Eddie said in his case he wasn't used to the amount of flex and had to work harder in order to keep his balance, which made the lift more difficult for him.
Yes, it is a much different lift fundamentally. You have to purposefully slow yourself off the floor, you can't just explode. Eddie is a very explosive lifter and is fast off of the floor, so the amount of flex in the bar will significantly hinder him as he will have to either go slower or be thrashed by the bouncing weights
also eddies 400 for 5 is done without a suit thor has a suit on
Thor could easily do 400kgs without a suit. You're clutching at straws.
Much respect to anyone that deadlifts 500kg
wonder how much Eddie could of done in his own gym on his own time!
If his father had loaded the weights.
Yeah I bet he would have done 600 at least and ofcourse it doesn't matter if theres a official pro referee with calibrated scale because we all know that if relative touches the plates it magically becomes lighter.
Everyone bitching are doing it not because the home gym or father touching the plates but because now its clear that Thor surely is in Eddies category, he clearly is able to lift thatkinda weight and from the looks of it Thor is capable of lifting even more by not being half dead after.
probably less than 500
The beast did 500kg 3 years ago
In strong man eddie didn't go past 472.5 becuz he already beat thor, if eddie woud train like he did before he woud get much more
Good luck to thor, but the pressure can't be the same in his own garage, compared to a competition
Dont forget the boost you get with thousands of people cheerinng u on in a stadium. Thor wont have that.
@@scotpak100 you're not wrong
@@scotpak100 I hope thor goes for the 530, because 501 obviously a record, but he could smash it
Thor practices on an elephant bar and Eddie has said on record that he hates the whip and can't deadlift as easy on the elephant bar, not saying thor can't lift the 501 or 520
True but that means Thor is stronger on the elephant bar
@@davidkosiba624 right, I never said he wasn't, thor has had a lot of practice with the bar and its strength and repetition that helps with the elephant bar, the whip is a totally different factor. I've used a power bar and a Texas deadlift bar, when weight starts adding up it changes a lot on either of those. I can't fathom how much it changes if the bar is about 3_5 mm thinner and at least 2 ft longer than a trafional bar.
Yeah the guy in this video was using that example a lot and it was just a stupid comparison
3:36
You said 372.5
wow
It is well known at this point that Eddie Hall is 6'1" barefoot, maybe half an inch more as peak height in the morning. As for hafthor he seems to be mid to high 6'7", maybe low 6'8" as his peak in the morning. So the difference between their height is around 17cm, that's a lot.
Thor is 205cm so that's 6'8-3/4
Eddie is 6'1/185cm to make that clear
Pretty sure he's actually 4'3
@@mrgaudy1954 😂💀
Oh nice to know you got a hold of his doctors report
Agree
@@TheBoyfriendOfYourWife don't get mad the guy lies about it everywhere when he stood next to 6'1 larry wheels they were literally the same height.
Am I the only one who thinks thor seems to be doing it with a lot more ease? Either way respect to both.
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2:59 a "little bit" taller? you see people being 190cm everyday, 205cm is on a whole different level. being 15cm taller than an already tall guy with 190cm is fucking insane and a BIG difference.
"Thaw"
Global warming lol
The issue going around the internet is not the fact that Thor cannot lift 501kg. The issue is that it will be done at his home via live stream, and if he pulls the 501kg the group putting on the streaming event will push for it as a world record. I have no doubt that Thor could pull the 501kg. If Eddie had to pull 500kg at an event and the next person to attempt anything over 501kg will have to do so at an event, the record that Thor worked really hard to achieve will have a stain on it.
The 530kg would be impossible to pull, I am 100% certain that Thor wouldn't be able to pull 520kg - I'd say his max would be 510kg, definitely not beyond that. Great vid!
At 3:35 you say 372.5 but it’s 472.5 on the screen.
Stop tonguing thor's bum hole. Until the record is broken Eddie is the man.
And will always be the first to pull 500. People seem to forget when Eddie pulled 500 almost everyone thought it was impossible, it was a ground breaking lift in the world of strength sports. I do think Thor will be the next guy to hold the WR Deadlift though.
Eddie raised the world record by a LOT at 28 years old, Thor 3 years later is still talking shit a 31 and didn't become anything close to stronger at 31 when Eddie has already retired, stronger in everything else so a 1kg bigger itching deadlift is not going to compensate Eddie's exploit and all the other fields in which he is stronger.
Difference being thor has had years to prepare for this. Eddie lifted it, competed for a year and retired. Thor has been preparing for this for a long time
eddie also trained for it wdym
Thor won’t even deadlift 501kg so hows he going to go for more.
Someone had to be that guy😉 lol
This corona era i just want thor to lift 501 so that i die in peace..
gautam giri you got a pretty empty life bud
@@camwoods2471 ya.. Its okay because i dont believe in breaking the lockdown.. So ya life is very empty now..
with the size of The Mountain,pretty sure Halfthor would easily lift even 503kg , eddie hall just seems butthurt. The difference in their size says alot.
Thor has said several times he thinks the elephant bar is harder for him than a typical bar, especially since he's lifting the elephant bar raw with straps vs equipped
A fair comparison video! Finally!
I think Eddies technique is slightly better but Thor is stronger. Thor seems to start with his hips a little low. I'm looking forward to seeing him break it with ease.
He does not have the strength advantage lol if anything he has the weight and size advantage, let’s not forget Eddie ALREADY lifted 500kg in competition smoothly.... and is stronger statically in every other lift also
Size is not an advantage for deadlift, Before the recent drama, on mark bells podcast few months ago, Eddie said that Thor is stronger in the deadlift than Eddie was
megin na how is he tho if he can’t beat him for reps or pr lol that straight up doesn’t make sense, there has never been anyone that could deadlift like Eddie and that’s just facts, the man was born for it
@@evanollen2355 Might be hard for you to wrap your head around but it's simple, who says he can't beat him for reps?, and we're talking about max strength here.
megin na bro have you watched Eddie deadlift? Name the weight and he would out lift Thor for reps every time, that just proves to me you don’t know anything lol he would put rep him on squats too
megin na and go heavier in log
The issue around the lifting of weight and whether it should stand as a record is simple. If this is simply how much can you lift? Then it's a record. If however this is a sport? It's not a record. It's that simple. No records in sports are achieved outside of competition
.. Told you all.. He's really gonna throw the power lifting bar and the 520kg into stratosphere.. 😅😉💪
I think benni’s world record pull under powerlifting rules raw is still the most impressive deadlift of all time.
Even if Thor would pull 1kg more, Eddie still did it on first attempt 4 years earlier, still is the first to ever do it and would obviously have been capable of beating his own record if he really wanted to, especially if he trained for it 3-4 extra years instead of retiring. Eddie dominated in squats, deadlift, overhead, bench, most events and always had way more static strength. Pulling 1kg more when Eddie pushed the WR so much back then is not going to mean ''He surpassed him''. Looks everywhere, Eddie had beastly PR's and maxes that Thor will never reach but all you're looking at is reasons to hate Edd because you are jealous that he was better.
Eddie also attempted Log press world record with torn ligaments in his leg and broken ankle, he still managed to strict lift it overhead but could not lockout because he lost his stability due to his recent injuries. He could bench more than Thor's max for pause reps without any spot or equipment, with ease. He always had superior press, pull, more complete overall strength. He's still the only man in the world to accomplish the Deadlift Pyramid (From 1 to 10, to 1 plate deadlift). He still defeated him in WSM and many other things. Eddie raised the world record by a LOT at 28 years old, Thor 4 years later is still talking shit a 32 and didn't become anything close to stronger after all these attempts and this extra time when Eddie has already retired, stronger in everything else so an itching deadlift PR is not going to compensate Eddie's exploit and all the other fields in which he always been stronger.
Eddies 465 was a world record attempt, Thor’s 465 was 35kg less than the world record. Completely different psychological states in each lift, you can’t compare them at all. The record will get broken at some point as that’s progress but Thor should have one many world strongest men titles as he’s got the advantages of height and weight etc, but he hasn’t because he bottles it at a lot of these competitions. I hope he does break the 501, but I don’t think it’s a definite.
01:24 This is 2015 i think and the elephant bar is used since 2014. Eddie didn't have the time to train with that bar. Also 01:48 Eddie is without a belt or a suit. I like them both , talked with both but i still think Eddie is stronger at deadlift. He did 463 at 2015 then year later he decided to do 500kg. Because everyone was doing it like Thor , putting +1 to the record so the next year they can beat it easily and get some money. Also Thor was training to beat that record since 2017 when Eddie won by 1 point at Wsm. Thor put a lot of size and i think he will do it.. but i don't think he will be in good shape for wsm. As we saw at Arnold this year the wheel of pain almost killed it
That thumbnail though 😂😂
Has everyone gone to see Brians Shaw's take on this. He's glad that Thor's ble to do this feat, but he thinks it should be an unofficial WR due to its in the comfortability of Thors gym, he doesn't have to worrry about the randomness of who goes next like in competition, etc. Shaw's take was a great argument and made me rethink on the legitimacy of WR of 501 in his own gym.
@Leotis Bennett yeah dont get me wrong he definitely can be the one to be the greatest deadlifter and do 501, but I will have to say that Eddie deserves the record regardless because he had to do it in competition using weights that are different than his own, his own environment and etc. If Thor gets to set the record in his own gym then it makes it more complicated to standardize the whole WR of strongmen. Go check out the vid on Shaws channel, its about 20 minutes long from about 2 weeks ago, and let me know what you think
trick361 Shaw’s argument is flawed since Eddie used his own bar & platform. He dictated weight jumps & rest periods. The event was set up for him. th-cam.com/video/Lg1RwD4nVbo/w-d-xo.html
Eddie's event was hacked more than Thor's seeing as Eddie had his own personalised bar and rest, while Thor will have the standard deadlift bar (less bend than Eddie's, more difficult lift especially for taller people) and the standard 15 mins of rest. Stop being a hypocrite, dipshit. Maybe you don't give a shit about him and how his reputation could be ruined because of a LITERAL PANDEMIC, but we do. He was going to do it in Dubai, WUS. And this IS a competition lift. It has just been moved to Thor's Power Gym to account for the, you know, GLOBAL PANDEMIC THAT HAS EVERYONE ON LOCKDOWN. Please don't forget to mention that next time the way you conveniently did here.
It'll be official. You can't stop it. They'll take Big Z and Magnus Ver Magnusson's words over yours. There's 9X WSM winners in that one building to referee and calibrate the lift. Won't be official? Hah! Thank god that pathetic couch potato weasels like you who can't do anything besides envy from the sidelines aren't in charge.
@@trick361 the fact that Thor is doing it in his gym with his equipment actually makes the circumatances closer to the ones Eddie had in 2016 than they would have been in a competition. That 2016 event was a complete disgrace.
Brian Shaw is a hypocrite if you know all the things he has said about Eddie back in 2016 (deadlift) and 2017 (WSM). You obviously don't know this stuff and are basing your opinion on his latest video - which supports Eddie whom became history channel buddies with Brian after Brian shit on Eddie. This record will be much more legitimate than Eddie's for all the corruption surrounding Eddie's lift in which Brian openly spoke about. Bet you did not know that - and your just agreeing with whatever he says 'now'. How many strongman friends does Brian have besides the history channel buddies. Zero....he has zero friends cause they all think and know he is a dick. Nick does not even like him....wake the fuck up.
Also eddie didn't sniff ammonia for the 465, so no adrenaline, he only needed it for the 500
When you say that Thor has been training raw all his life as an explanation for why his setup is slower on the 400 set, and doesn't look as convincing as the elephant bar comparison, don't forget that Thor is also 6-7 inches taller and what this does on the deadlift setup.
BTW, it is hilarious to see Eddie with his suit on under his shirt.
kimaboe No. It’s simply because Thor was getting used to the suit at that point. He is much stronger on deadlift bar with suit than raw elephant bar
Why did you cut out the 500 kg deadlift of Eddie Hall?
I'm a fan of Eddie's but Thor is just bigger and stronger.When Eddie lifted his 501 k he actually lifted way beyond what he's physically capable of.An incredible show of mental mind over matter.I take nothing from Eddie.To lift that amount is just insane.Thor is truly a giant though,who knows how much more he could do,especially if he chooses to specialize in this.
Speed has nothing to do with how much someone can pull, look at Stefi Cohen lol.. I really don’t understand how people are hyped about equipped deadlift record but talk shit about equipped powerlifting.. Blaine Sumner hit this weight on the squat and he benched 415kg but you or any channel haven’t posted nothing about it.
Considering Eddie and Thor are practically the same age, if Eddie trained until now for that deadlift I’m sure Eddie could get way more than 501 if he could get 500 4 years ago
I feel like you don't fully appreciate the difference between a five rep and a three rep set. Maybe you've never lifted heavy weights so you can't comprehend how different that is but I assure you, the extra two reps are a pretty big deal. Not saying Thor can't lift 501kg but your comparisons here are tropes. Enjoy the views I guess.
Eddie was also taking longer rest, neither were doing sets to failure