I’ve been an FL user in Windows all my life, and I’ll be converting to Pro Tools on Mac soon…and this video has given me so much hype for the better shortcuts I’ll be getting that I don’t have in FL20. 😁🙏🏻 Thanks again URM Academy!!
amazing amazing amazing amazing tutorial. never edited live drums before and it’s always been a mysterious and anxiety inducing process to me, that I never learned how to do until i watched this. ty for this!
Nice video! At 29:30... (Control) + (Shift) + (=) will bring up the clip gain info. (Control) + (Shift) + (-) will bring up the clip gain line. So many shortcuts, so little time!!
You should be the one writing the Pro Tools Shortcuts Guide which is about 60 freaking pages long. What I hate about the PT Keyboard is that it uses lots of color codes and I'm color blind, so... Anyway, it is always great to see how other people do things different than I do. Very educative, and straight away I tried to apply some of these tips on my editing, pretending like I've always known them (almost all of us do the same). When I'm not the tracking engineer but, say, the recording director on a project in other studios, and I see the engineer do a magic trick that usually takes me 10 seconds to do, I'd be sneaking behind trying to steal it without being noticed. This is kinda funny because usually I'm a session director when a friend and I have written a song for a famous artist in Japan. Both of us have used Pro Tools for ages. We'd arrive to the studio, watch the guy do that something, and we look at each other eyes like "WTF was that?" and try to steal it the whole time. When it is a mixing session or mastering session we do the same. The difference is that we learn nothing.
John I can't use "control + f" and "control + d". I've always wanted to know how to fill the gaps. When I press Contol & F, it just cross fades as if I'm only pressing f. But other short cuts with control button is definately working. Can anyone help? I'm using mac.
No phase issues when moving around single drum hits with the group disenabled? Are the other instrument tracks following these edits like in Logic Flex Time?
Hey I got a question where in a studio right now and they use pro tools and the drums sound bad but where hoping in the mix down we can fix them ...I no on logic you can bring up a snare or Tom etc and tune them is pro tools like that to? Do we have that option to tune them in the mix down?
This part pissed me off so much. Ctrl + alt + f does not do the same thing on PC pro tools so this video is completely useless for us. If I'm moving back a drum part that's early.. I have no idea how to fill the f********* space without including the beginning of the original timed hit.
Hey guys what happened to the URM Podcast? Hiatus? No new episode in over a month. Just curious. Miss the pod. They help my work day cruise by and keeps me motivated for music when I'm off. GREAT TUTORIAL BTW!!! Keep up the good work! You guys are awesome!!!
Im a 20 year exp drummer. By editing by your eyes you are ending editing things that maybe are "weird" seeing the grid, but sounds completly right. Most of the original takes you edited sounded just right. If you are correcting something like 9ms, you are guided by your eyes. 9ms is not a measure anyone can distinguish. 9ms does not make a fill wrong. Please, watch out because you are not editing. You are turning a human drummer into a machine.
I know this comment is old, but I have to say one thing. When I started engineering 25 years ago I feel the same way as you and said so to a veteran producer. He quickly proved me wrong with his back to the computer as I moved things slight amounts. Fast forward about 15 years and I can without a doubt hear the difference in 9ms. Now with that said, I agree with leaving the human feel intact, but to say that 9ms is negligible is just wrong. It has been tested countless times.
They’ve been editing like this since the tape says. Except this is a lot of easier. Engineers would literally mark tape. Cut and move just as he’s doing here. Nothing new. Even the rawest recordings have been edited like this in the old days. This is how you get music to be tight. He even mentions not to snap to grid to keep the human feel in there.
If only man...A lot of times, we don't really have a choice. Time is money, and money is often tight. Gotta know the tricks to make lemonade, you know?
Picture this: you're working with a great drummer, but he broke up with his girlfriend the night before and he just isn't at his best today. But he's leaving tomorrow morning, they're out of budget, and the studio is booked the next day. What choice to do you have to make the most of what you've got? Nobody is suggesting that editing is a substitute for a great performance or that you should edit everything super tightly - it's just a tool that you will probably want to have in your toolbox in case you need it :)
You know who cares about glen ficker? No one. Does he make records for a living? Why do you clowns put so much in to what he has to say about everything? Are there people lining up around the block to do records with him? Exactly.
How amazing is this tutorial?!
It is great! Thank you guys and John Douglass for doing this!
quite amazing, would be even more so if it would be for cubase
Great, lots of great info guys!
And/Or Studio One
Make him do one in Logic aswell ! ! ! !
Watching this full screen, I instinctively hit control S to save my session
Pro Tools has unexpectedly quit!
é pesado..
I’ve been an FL user in Windows all my life, and I’ll be converting to Pro Tools on Mac soon…and this video has given me so much hype for the better shortcuts I’ll be getting that I don’t have in FL20. 😁🙏🏻 Thanks again URM Academy!!
amazing amazing amazing amazing tutorial. never edited live drums before and it’s always been a mysterious and anxiety inducing process to me, that I never learned how to do until i watched this. ty for this!
an absolute game changer - thank you kindly for, arguably, the most in-depth drum editing tutorial on the net!!
never seen an easier explanation on how to do this in PT, thanks!
Nice video! At 29:30... (Control) + (Shift) + (=) will bring up the clip gain info. (Control) + (Shift) + (-) will bring up the clip gain line. So many shortcuts, so little time!!
This is gold right here ...
AMAZING TUTORIAL. I just finished the edition of some drums using these technics and de sound is amazing. Thank you very much!
Hi, on my mac when I hit Ctrl+Option+F it does a zoom on the selection, It doesn't fill the gap, PT 2018.7, can someone tell me why? Thx in advance
me too :(
hes working on PC, control key on PC is the command key on Mac
@@andrewtillb he's clearly working on a mac
did anyone find the answer to this? cause i have the same issue
Start to Fill Selection - it's under Edit > Trim Clip. There's no shortcut for it but you can create one: th-cam.com/video/XUBuLf2zhUg/w-d-xo.html
how it is called the function you use pressing ctrl + alt + f? Im on windows and that keys are not doing anything. thanjks!
This is driving me crazy too
Control+command+R Does the work in the newest versions of pro tools.
great video, I use it to practice and I always learn something new!!
You should be the one writing the Pro Tools Shortcuts Guide which is about 60 freaking pages long. What I hate about the PT Keyboard is that it uses lots of color codes and I'm color blind, so... Anyway, it is always great to see how other people do things different than I do. Very educative, and straight away I tried to apply some of these tips on my editing, pretending like I've always known them (almost all of us do the same). When I'm not the tracking engineer but, say, the recording director on a project in other studios, and I see the engineer do a magic trick that usually takes me 10 seconds to do, I'd be sneaking behind trying to steal it without being noticed. This is kinda funny because usually I'm a session director when a friend and I have written a song for a famous artist in Japan. Both of us have used Pro Tools for ages. We'd arrive to the studio, watch the guy do that something, and we look at each other eyes like "WTF was that?" and try to steal it the whole time. When it is a mixing session or mastering session we do the same. The difference is that we learn nothing.
command option F does not fill the gaps when moving a selection back. I am in key command mode. what am I doing wrong?
Same thing here
This is amazing! thank you so much!
Good stuff. Why no collection mode, or editing smoothing?
Is this technique better than using the Elastic Audio and Warp method ?
John I can't use "control + f" and "control + d". I've always wanted to know how to fill the gaps. When I press Contol & F, it just cross fades as if I'm only pressing f. But other short cuts with control button is definately working. Can anyone help? I'm using mac.
No phase issues when moving around single drum hits with the group disenabled? Are the other instrument tracks following these edits like in Logic Flex Time?
Was this before beat detective?
Good stuff!
Hey I got a question where in a studio right now and they use pro tools and the drums sound bad but where hoping in the mix down we can fix them ...I no on logic you can bring up a snare or Tom etc and tune them is pro tools like that to? Do we have that option to tune them in the mix down?
What is control+option+f and what did it do? I am having trouble finding the answer to this. Thank you.
yea i can't seem to get that figured out either
@@Jordannofun The same! If you find de answer let me know!
@@ManuelGuinand it expands your clip start and end points to fill in gaps between your selected clips
This part pissed me off so much. Ctrl + alt + f does not do the same thing on PC pro tools so this video is completely useless for us. If I'm moving back a drum part that's early.. I have no idea how to fill the f********* space without including the beginning of the original timed hit.
did you ever find anything out? I searched control option f on the list of pro tools shortcuts and got nothing...
I'm on PC too
@@DamienTheCat
Hey guys what happened to the URM Podcast? Hiatus? No new episode in over a month. Just curious. Miss the pod. They help my work day cruise by and keeps me motivated for music when I'm off. GREAT TUTORIAL BTW!!! Keep up the good work! You guys are awesome!!!
Yep, short break! They’ll be back soonish. Appreciate the support!
Legendary
Great!
Great tutorial. A lot of folks may not know what a snare or kick "ARTIFACT" is. It would be a great idea to take a moment and explain.
I keep forgetting to ask are engineer but tomarrow is are session and I will ask butcwanted to get your awnser thank you
John is a fucking beast!!!
Facts
wow !
And.. windows shortcuts??
Cmd -> ctrl
the track in the intro sounds fckin hench what is it
Great skills alas it sounded robotic at the end though.
The robotic sounding or not is just a decision... It's up to the editor.
Great tutorial but really shows why I dont use pro tools haha.
How do YOU edit drums?
Im a 20 year exp drummer. By editing by your eyes you are ending editing things that maybe are "weird" seeing the grid, but sounds completly right. Most of the original takes you edited sounded just right. If you are correcting something like 9ms, you are guided by your eyes. 9ms is not a measure anyone can distinguish. 9ms does not make a fill wrong. Please, watch out because you are not editing. You are turning a human drummer into a machine.
Yes thank you!
you have no idea how much it effects the tightness and the KICK+BASS+GUITAR relationshio. Until you are a mixer you wont understand....
I know this comment is old, but I have to say one thing. When I started engineering 25 years ago I feel the same way as you and said so to a veteran producer. He quickly proved me wrong with his back to the computer as I moved things slight amounts. Fast forward about 15 years and I can without a doubt hear the difference in 9ms. Now with that said, I agree with leaving the human feel intact, but to say that 9ms is negligible is just wrong. It has been tested countless times.
They’ve been editing like this since the tape says. Except this is a lot of easier. Engineers would literally mark tape. Cut and move just as he’s doing here. Nothing new. Even the rawest recordings have been edited like this in the old days. This is how you get music to be tight. He even mentions not to snap to grid to keep the human feel in there.
Learning this stuff for free makes me feel guilty.
Please don't chew gum when recording.
Really good tips on how to use the tools. Really bad tips on how to make music. If I were that drummer I’d be dejected. It was a good take before.
At this point, just sample it. Or make him play it again. Glenn Fricker is having a stroke somewhere.
If only man...A lot of times, we don't really have a choice. Time is money, and money is often tight. Gotta know the tricks to make lemonade, you know?
Picture this: you're working with a great drummer, but he broke up with his girlfriend the night before and he just isn't at his best today. But he's leaving tomorrow morning, they're out of budget, and the studio is booked the next day. What choice to do you have to make the most of what you've got? Nobody is suggesting that editing is a substitute for a great performance or that you should edit everything super tightly - it's just a tool that you will probably want to have in your toolbox in case you need it :)
LMAO youre a DORK. he barely did any editing.... you think thats alot???? hahah good luck bud
You know who cares about glen ficker? No one. Does he make records for a living? Why do you clowns put so much in to what he has to say about everything? Are there people lining up around the block to do records with him? Exactly.
Respect the work, but.... man, this is how you edit the life and feel out of a drum performance.
Pure noise
Why do you move like we know every little step you're doing. You need to explain a little more. Just saying
I mean, it's a free tutorial, what else do you want?