This was all made up in 1973 by the WEF. The plan worked beautifully through media pushing it, shows pushing it, and then uneducated people believing it.
AEMO should never be given the powers to shut off solar power. That is dooms day plan if AEMO shut off solar. Millions of Australian households who have installed solar panels will lose. Australia is a sunny country. The world is adding more solar and wind everyday. Solar is growing exponentially worldwide. Even developing countries are adding solar. Listen to Tony Seba: Oil, gas and nuclear will be obsolete by 2030. Keep up with the real news and world news.
@@TerrenceBosworth Guys they are likely Lawyers those two and if not we pay our Gov lawyers to draft this rort up so there is no legal ramifications for them . Pretty sure thats how it goes , terrible to say the least ! We need to get One Nation in there as a majority to expose these pigs at that dollar trough of legal games of monopoly. The other independents outside of One Nation have mining interests and will fool plenty to vote i see but One Nation is the best of the bunch with Pauline integrity at the wheel.
@@vivrowe2763 Yep and signed us up to the UN an unelected body of so called elites then the Paris accords ect, they even changed to Constitution to the Marine Constitution and very few people noticed. Basically we now have a foreign entity controlling OUR country, sad but true .
After WWII, Australia was self sufficient in food production, Energy and manufacturing. We produced everything from Aircraft to Electronics, our Energy resources were world leading, our Food production world class. Successive Governments have dragged this Country to third world status, with food shortages, a collapse in manufacturing, an unreliable Energy supply and reliance on imports. While our Medical and social security systems decline, we invite and support more immigrants and the crime rate soars. Our community is divided by Government Policies and our former high standard of living and Christian based culture is collapsing under the same policies.
Australia exports 70% of food production, so no shortage of food in Australia Manufacturing is attracted to Asian countries where their governments offer tax incentives and cheaper labour. Australia leads the world in medical research cancer, melanoma etc. Far more important than putting a nut on a bolt.
"What if a small group of world leaders were to conclude that the principal risk to the Earth comes from the actions of the rich countries?... In order to save the planet, the group decides: Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" - Maurice Strong (First Director of the United Nations Environment Program)
Canada and Australia need to be kept under heel or they can upset the entire global order with their massive resource reserves. Believe it or not Venezuela and Argentina are the same.
"What if a small group of world leaders were to conclude that the principal risk to the Earth comes from the actions of the rich countries?... In order to save the planet, the group decides: Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" - Maurice Strong (First Director of the United Nations Environment Program)
@@JoyMartin-rk4pm Lots of Pubs in Australia are not going to celebrate Australia day, turns out they are owned by the Chinese. Which politician allow that? All of them?
The Monarch of the uk is making a prity penny from his share of the crown estate that’s getting the rent from leasing out the sea floor for these windmills.
@@Fantabiscuit i’ve predicted it in New Zealand as well- the cost will go up and up to make electricity unaffordable and yet the reliability and availability of it will diminish
As an engineer it certainly seems that the failure is deliberate. There is a massive investment in doing things a particular way and this makes it impossible to fix the problem without harming someone.
Interesting. I am half way around the world, but people respond to incentives, once you separate companies, finally well-tuned to work. One company to make solar power, and one company to bill consumers and transmit it; then fire everyone in the second company that does not agree with the political/green/religious ideas of he first company, one runs into problems.
100% it gas to be a terrorist action like everything Labor is pushing It all appears to be purposefully destructive to Australians and our way of life. The locking up of our resources indicates They are keeping them on behalf of someone else likely China to use when they decide to
You got it all wrong, didn't he say in the last election, "If you Vote for me, I will give Every Australian a $150 rebate on there monthly power Bill", or something like that. I am Soooooo Glad he is our Prime Minister, because my power bill could have been way way worse under the current Inflation and he is giving me a $150 rebate on my power bill. Thank God for Saint Albo, the Australian Peoples Saviour, just be thankful, it could be worse if he did not give the $150 rebate. - Hehe.
@@mrdbooks7285 half of our population thinks namely this way. Glory to our great saviours and feeders, beloved labs who prevent me from hunger, cold, heat, ozone and earthquake!
And there lies the truth...the green energy can provide supplemental power but requires investments in the trillions for "battery" backup. It should never be considered the primary.
what means backup? The same 30GW generation which will stand still, consume fuel to stay in 30min reserve, pay wages to full 24h staff, and do nothing, earn zero? Ah, yes, it can be used as display "look, kids, how expensive is thermal generation comparing to our precious green bs!".
@@antontsau No sure what you're arguing, but one thing about "backups", same can be said for emergency services: police and EMTs. Basically for every gigawatt of green power you need you need at least 100% of standby "backup" generation (coal, gas, nuclear) capability to ensure the grid can be maintained.
@@BWolf00 did you ever hear about "use factor"? What you think it is for police, ambulance or even fire brigade? And how you estimate it for such a backup generation, couple of hours not every day? Oh yes. Namely. All this green bs requires 100% reserve controllable power with uf 10% max. For network (ie ours, consumers) expense, not pv/wind generator account.
Come to narara eco village for open day. It works. On small scale 100 houses with our own energy setup and shared generators and electrician in charge. The same system could be delivered per subburb through council involvement... we feed energy back into your grid too....
@@thedevilsworkshop7720Of course it's renewable as it has to be replaced when it fails, renewal at extreme cost but it doesn't matter its only tax payers money
I warned of this in NZ 4 years ago - yes - 4 years ago --- and now, last week, the NZ Commerce Commision has warned of MASSIVE INCREASES in POWER COSTS - particularly due to the needed grid upgrades... yada yada due to all the reasons stated here... this is infuriating...
Call me a cynic but I bet it will be the unavoidable 'supply' part of your electricity bill that the increase will be tacked onto, not the 'consumption' part. Because people can control their consumption if they really have to. And if you can't control and afford the massive 'supply' part of your bill, you will have to sell your house. "You will own nothing, and be happy" - WEF 2016.
This is a problem everywhere, on windy days half the windmills are standing still too. It would be the same if everyone drove electric cars, the powergrid just can't handle the loading. But if you ask a green politician how they plan to solve this, they just say: "that's a challenge for the future". Because they are totally clueless.
There are going to be no cars and electric cars can be stopped, blown up, etc. Look at what they are building Leisure Cities for the fools who will fall for the sales pitch. It's worldwide and people out to find that out, it's not just this dump.
Grid has not really a serious problem with EVs, grid has a problem with short peakloads, but that problem is getting smaller the more EVs are in service, most people still do not understand that. EVs DO NOT contribute to peakload, the help mitigating that.
Well he works for Murdoch and wants his job you see. But he would be on a site like most people who speak truth are. Why are you surprised, because you wait for the MSM to tell you every lie they have for years.
Reality begins to bite. I always wondered when this tipping point would be reached. Looks like we are here. I believe Perth has been close to this point frequently where instability becomes the issue.
We need to know the names of the most evil ones who were pushing the energy lies for decades and also the weaklings who should and must be responsible for what they have done!
Politicians and ideologues running any infrastructure is bad enough but when they apply their baseless “knowledge” to a complex and already working system… well, this is what you can expect.
This is what happens when you allow Cults and Lobby Groups to hijack Infrastructure problems . Rather than set a Brief " This is the Problem . Attempt a Rational Solution " and present said Brief to the ENGINEERS .
@@vivrowe2763. What's " Really Going On " , is that a Country that SHOULD be a Power Exporter is have " Brown Outs " due to Successive Incompetence in handling the Power Infrastructure , along with quite a few Other things too . Too much Pandering to Lobby Groups , Special Interest Groups (Cults) and playing " Popularity Politics " instead of PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE . Both of the Major Political Parties are EQUALLY GUILTY over this .
@@lloydsingline340It used to be on the news how powe went down all the time. People throwing out food all the time. Most people got a generator, but they are to be banned.
Most of the Money went into "Consultants" - Australia Needs a - "Department of Government Efficiency" - D.O.G.E. ------- Make Elon, Australia's first President of the Australian Republic. He will get the Shit happening.
Green energy they said. It’s the solution they said. The unreliable power is the future they said. Ignore that every country that moved to heavy renewables it has failed. Intermittent power grid and higher prices.
Is anyone really surprised that this has turned into a cluster f ??? Anything Bowen has had anything to do with has turned to s..t Albanese only wants to make his mark and make a world headline - it's got nothing to do with what is best for Australia.
True and they or there Corp buddies are raping and pillaging the billions of green dollars . Bowen is very well aware what he has done , for the Corps while our media , one of the many Corps do not expose anything. Grubby grubby lib lab green teal , just different protected rorts without sharing with the public .
This isnst just a man with an agenda, Australia produces far too much resources and threatens the global price fixing. We just gave away 150 bill of gas for free.
Not quite. This is where you are FORCED to Lease Batteries from Government approved suppliers with Government approved connection to the Grid so They can suck your batteries dry when ever they want. Why? Because Batteries are DANGERIOUS and the Government are "Keeping you safe"
That's what you get for letting Bowen and Al-pinocchio loose on energy😂😂😂the ALP 's policy is a disaster!! Forget renewables fantasy 😈 😇 😂😂😂go "noook-leear" and develop gas and coal😂😂😂😂😂
Yes there will be big piles of unrecyclable solar panels and wind turbine blades and massive concrete foundations covering x farm land that now cannot be farmed.
The solution is simple, allow people to disconnect from the grid and be energy dependant, you forced this issue upon yourselves and still want to blame the people you blackmailed into still having to be connected for you own errors.
offgrid is very expensive and very inconvenient. It was the very idea of grid creation 100 years ago - demand averaging and generation concentration reduces energy cost several times.
@@alanakafang6143 you? Yes. How much costs 10KW offgrid system with 30KWh battery? And its the very minima to provide reliability and quality comparable to simpliest 1ph 63A mains connection - power available and reserve for at least 2 days.
@antontsau mate with your mindset towards using power it's no wonder the grid is failing. And 100 years ago no one was thinking about generating their own power, the technology wasn't advanced enough then. If you do go off grid, you minimise how much electricity you need to use.
@@alanakafang6143 Yes I do not want to think about power usage. Power is just power, switch it on and it is working. ALWAYS, in any conditions, when I need it, not when I may. So requirements for simple modern dwelling are well known - 63A mains (its standard house connection), 10-20KWh/day consumption (average, you can see it in bills, retailers have to publish it). Adding offgrid unreliability we receive requirement for battery, at leas 2 day consumption to cover (very short!) - 30 KWh capacity. Now your turn to sound the price. 100 years ago, in 1924, Sydney already built electric train network, not talking about trams, lights and so on. In opposite, everybody had to power up himself, any business requiring electricity had to generate it, as no global grid existed. Or continue to use hand power. Oh yes. Minimise. Live in forest, pray to the wheel. Own nothing, be poor by your own choice. Awesome plan.
I have been saying this for years. You need rotating machines on the system to provide inertia when riding through power swings, system faults, and frequency stability. This is a time bomb globally. Get accountants and politicians out of this industry!
They have been having this problem at a solar farm near Oakey, QLD for a number of years. If they are not quick enough to turn it off it blows the fuse. Then they need a crane to replace the fuse box which weighs about 8 tonnes.
Just some bloke from the USA. The solution to this is flywheels. Massive, huge, simple flywheels. Flywheels are the best way to store energy and it dumps it back into the system whenever needed.
In some place they use 2 dams, the top dam is filled at night by pumping water up during low energy demand, during peak load, the top dam lets water flow in turbines to the bottom dam, it is a battery but on a much bigger scale, however the energy losses are high because pump efficiency is not that good.
The announcer needs to give a few seconds for the interaction with the guest. He just hears nothing and feels he needs to speak. How do they not know how the communication system works? It just irritates the mud out of me.
Yeah well look up his name and find the guy he is interviewing. Every thought of doing something to see what is coming. I did in 2020 and it will blow you mind.
Informative but the interview was very poorly presented with Andrew Bolt rambling on over the point that his guest was attempting to put across. Andrew, you are not an expert in the field, so stop trying to take control.
The "shadow generators" needed to make renewables work are becoming visible. For every MW of renewable power you need a MW of shadow gas, coal or nuclear power. That's a very expensive way to build an electricity generation system. And for those who are shouting "batteries, idiot" they're even more expensive to build. Just look at the pumped hydro "battery" for starters.
The hydro battery is ok when you have nuclear energy you can use it when demand is low rather than waste it pumping water back to the reservoir , solar panels on your house in sunny areas may work to save you.money but. The cost and long term replacement I have my doubts, solar hot water and solar panels in one unit , but not in the UKs cold and dark damp winter weather.
As an Engineer this guy sounds correct in his concern on 100 % renuables without major base load such as Nuclear or Gas that will cost Australia's more in the long run to keep light on
That is why they need it from the people. It has to be kept very cold always and it uses a heap of energy. As AI is going to replace people in many things people are not important. You need to find out everything and really talk to your family.
When you build without a business plan first, followed by an implementation plan with pert checkpoints this is what you get when no project management plan was created first...government incompetence and no real oversight or person responsible...
Also all these roof top solar panels push up the mains voltage to the extent that some devices will shut off due to the voltage being too high. In my area the mains voltage goes into the mid 250s volts during sunny days when its suppose to be only 230 volts.
INTERMITTENT… NOT BASELOAD… you don’t need to be an engineer to understand this, you need commonsense. Yet our pm said we could charge ev’s overnight… THAT TELLS YOU A LOT ABOUT HIS INTELLECTUAL UNDERSTANDING.
These issues were foretold more than 2 years ago, when blackout Bowen was trumpeting solar and windmills not sending out any invoices for power. What a moron, and now the truths are all coming home to roost, and they will not go away, we are already in too deep. At this late stage in this game, there is just one available path forward, build new, more efficient, coal fired power stations, as quickly as possible, and hope we can build them fast enough, to stay ahead of the curve. (no chance this will happen of course). Yes, of course gas would be better, but we are so well organized we already do not have enough available deliverable gas to meet current demand, never mind adding new power stations on top. New gas wells to tap available reserves are 5 years out, if we begin now, but we are not even thinking about beginning now. So, in our infinite wisdom?? we are now importing gas, from overseas. OMG we are just so smart in our green-ness. Hey I know what, lets get city councils to pay the green protesters $22,000 to make a meaningless protest somewhere, follow that Sydney City Council lead. If Bowen had one more grain of common sense, it would be lonely.
Well it was way before then actually but people can't be bothered listening to anything but the news on TV and sport. They know how easily people are kept like they are
Engineers were warning ⚠️ that this approach to energy availability and stability is with renewables in the current configurations and £ constraints not 🚭 possible. Yet many politicians from Labour and all from the greens were pushing it. Will there be any consequence for these totally irresponsible politicos any penalty and prison terms?
Our Enemies didn’t even need to fire a shot. Just needed to pay off a few Politicians to say “WHATS THE COST IF WE DO NOTHING” at a fraction of the cost of even a single missile.🤮
I said it was a frawd when this solar crap started. A friend gets 5 cents KW discount for 8 panels. Each panel in good sun creats many more KWs providers getting at least $2 panel per KW from one panel x by 8 equals $16 per hour. You get 5 cents. My estimates may vary but it gives you the picture. Frawd
@@vivrowe2763 I don't know of any public available simulators. You may find looking at various energy documents boring. Not a good analogy, but say you lived in a cabin on a 10k elevation mountain. Town is in the valley. About half the year, it will snow/ice up, with the rest being good weather. I would allege that the first vehicle that you buy is a 4x4 truck. Sure, you can drive that year around/everyday, but if you can afford it, then you also buy a car. (basically, a vehicle that is less expensive insurance, oil changes and better gas mileage). Sure, you can't haul as much and can't handle snow/ice, but you don't need that every day. Does this make any sense? (A little real world is that I like owning a solar farm but its supplemental and know that I'm useless if there are storms and nighttime. Devastated if it hails)
Australia's first renewable energy farm was the White Cliffs Solar Power Station, which was built in 1981 in New South Wales. Australia's first commercial wind farm was the Salmon Beach Wind Farm, which was built in 1987 in Western Australia. How many times were these energy farms renewed to keep them going?
& in the meantime, how many coal & gas fired power stations have been built, rebuilt & repaired? Everything wears out, so trying to make out that it's a phenomenon that only applies to solar & wind generation is disingenuous.
Solar can produce as much as it wants, but it doesn’t have enertia to maintain a balance in frequency. Reserve batteries come in or out they cannot supply continuously at hi depletion rate on high grid demand load.
We are doing silly stuff like this in canada too. British Columbia and Quebec has some of the biggest baddest hydro electric generation on the planet, we still cant keep up with baseload without having some other reliable source of intermittent generation.
Good luck with your white goods warranties when the motors are destroyed by hertz fluctuations. You shouldn't need to be an engineer to understand hertz are best delivered by rotating mass, like steam turbines.
Go home of a evening and do no washing , low air con , seems like with all the sun we are over heating. What about the sun changing getting hotter , Revelation 16: better read whole chapter.
Yes revelation. It foretells the times we are living in right now. God forewarns us in the bible of what is to come. The bible has been taken away so people don’t know the truth.
Yeah, this is a very bizarre yet major problem. In simple terms we need power that is consistent in terms of grid stability, meaning not too much or tooo little. I'd say fly wheel batteries are best, but any kind of big battery would work.
It’s time to incarcerate Bowen for the BS he has fed the Australian people. You can’t make this shit up.
This was all made up in 1973 by the WEF. The plan worked beautifully through media pushing it, shows pushing it, and then uneducated people believing it.
He did... and most people are gullible.
a cess pit in par-liar-ment
AEMO should never be given the powers to shut off solar power. That is dooms day plan if AEMO shut off solar. Millions of Australian households who have installed solar panels will lose.
Australia is a sunny country.
The world is adding more solar and wind everyday. Solar is growing exponentially worldwide.
Even developing countries are adding solar.
Listen to Tony Seba: Oil, gas and nuclear will be obsolete by 2030.
Keep up with the real news and world news.
Bullshit Bowen.
Why is it that Albonese and Bowen are not charged for criminal intent
because NWO is in charge.....
I agree. Albanese promised in his election campaign that he would accept responsibility.
@@TerrenceBosworth Guys they are likely Lawyers those two and if not we pay our Gov lawyers to draft this rort up so there is no legal ramifications for them . Pretty sure thats how it goes , terrible to say the least ! We need to get One Nation in there as a majority to expose these pigs at that dollar trough of legal games of monopoly. The other independents outside of One Nation have mining interests and will fool plenty to vote i see but One Nation is the best of the bunch with Pauline integrity at the wheel.
probably because they're both too thick for to be classed as 'intent'!
Who's going to bring that charge, nobody I've asked has ever answered that question,
The Dream Police maybe?
That happens when Gov. operators follow deliberate faulty WEF instructions.
They signed up to sell out I can go back to Hawke and Howard days for this.
@@vivrowe2763 Yep and signed us up to the UN an unelected body of so called elites then the Paris accords ect, they even changed to Constitution to the Marine Constitution and very few people noticed. Basically we now have a foreign entity controlling OUR country, sad but true .
After WWII, Australia was self sufficient in food production, Energy and manufacturing. We produced everything from Aircraft to Electronics, our Energy resources were world leading, our Food production world class. Successive Governments have dragged this Country to third world status, with food shortages, a collapse in manufacturing, an unreliable Energy supply and reliance on imports. While our Medical and social security systems decline, we invite and support more immigrants and the crime rate soars. Our community is divided by Government Policies and our former high standard of living and Christian based culture is collapsing under the same policies.
Hit the nail on the head. Exactly right...
Yes I have watched it all turn to garbage and I never wanted any of these people not the selling off of a country where we were self sufficient.
💯 % spot on ,it’s beyond criminal 😡
Nailed it mate 😕
Australia exports 70% of food production, so no shortage of food in Australia
Manufacturing is attracted to Asian countries where their governments offer tax incentives and cheaper labour.
Australia leads the world in medical research cancer, melanoma etc. Far more important than putting a nut on a bolt.
Billions of our taxpayers money going to this scam
Will be trillions if it continues .
@@stewatparkpark2933 : The estimated cost of the current renewables infrastructure (poles and wires) is $1.5 Trillion.
Because we cannot use Nuclear, we are not smart enough according to Labor and everybody knows, Nuclear is bad, according to Labor.
"What if a small group of world leaders were to conclude that the principal risk to the Earth comes from the actions of the rich countries?... In order to save the planet, the group decides: Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" - Maurice Strong (First Director of the United Nations Environment Program)
@@stewatparkpark2933
I suspect it already is.
Economic suicide. Australia should be one of the richest nations on earth
The plan is working - it's just not the plan they have been gaslighting us with as they empty our collective wallet
Canada and Australia need to be kept under heel or they can upset the entire global order with their massive resource reserves. Believe it or not Venezuela and Argentina are the same.
@@dootdoot1867 Argentina ,is quickly breakly away from its' socialist / communist past . The other 3 are a continual fail.
Don’t tell the Northern Territory that.
They just have away $150 billion worth of gas for free!
"What if a small group of world leaders were to conclude that the principal risk to the Earth comes from the actions of the rich countries?... In order to save the planet, the group decides: Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" - Maurice Strong (First Director of the United Nations Environment Program)
There are a bunch of people lining their pockets with this, including politicians.
Oh 💯%
Politicians Super Funds invest in ????
Imagine getting money for selling your country down the drain. Should be a capital offence.
@@JoyMartin-rk4pm Lots of Pubs in Australia are not going to celebrate Australia day, turns out they are owned by the Chinese. Which politician allow that? All of them?
The Monarch of the uk is making a prity penny from his share of the crown estate that’s getting the rent from leasing out the sea floor for these windmills.
Many Australians saw this coming, and a tragedy politicians didn't listen to the engineers and real experts.
What a gross waste of taxpayers $$
You didn't see a thing
@@FantabiscuitI did because I was a reader and also try to warn people.
@@Fantabiscuit i’ve predicted it in New Zealand as well- the cost will go up and up to make electricity unaffordable and yet the reliability and availability of it will diminish
@@malcolmwhite6588 your tripping.
@@vivrowe2763 you read nothing but rubbish
As an engineer it certainly seems that the failure is deliberate. There is a massive investment in doing things a particular way and this makes it impossible to fix the problem without harming someone.
Interesting. I am half way around the world, but people respond to incentives, once you separate companies, finally well-tuned to work. One company to make solar power, and one company to bill consumers and transmit it; then fire everyone in the second company that does not agree with the political/green/religious ideas of he first company, one runs into problems.
100% it gas to be a terrorist action like everything Labor is pushing It all appears to be purposefully destructive to Australians and our way of life. The locking up of our resources indicates They are keeping them on behalf of someone else likely China to use when they decide to
It's remarkable how quickly Labor has managed to turn a somewhat messy and outdated grid into an unreliable and expensive disaster.
You got it all wrong, didn't he say in the last election, "If you Vote for me, I will give Every Australian a $150 rebate on there monthly power Bill", or something like that. I am Soooooo Glad he is our Prime Minister, because my power bill could have been way way worse under the current Inflation and he is giving me a $150 rebate on my power bill. Thank God for Saint Albo, the Australian Peoples Saviour, just be thankful, it could be worse if he did not give the $150 rebate. - Hehe.
@@mrdbooks7285 Haha, love it.
@@mrdbooks7285 i almost missed the irony mate... was about to rip you a new one!!
😅👍
@@mrdbooks7285 half of our population thinks namely this way. Glory to our great saviours and feeders, beloved labs who prevent me from hunger, cold, heat, ozone and earthquake!
How could we ehat know this was going to happen.
LOOK what they did with the NBN!
And how much that has overblown the budget!
Bungling Bowen will do some serious damage to Australia
What do you mean do, he's already done it. !
Will do ?
'has done.'
@Prognosis : Why don't you ever condemn the CCP ?
@@buildmotosykletist1987 You still flogging this dead horse then?
"Renewables" is a misnomer, they should be renamed DISPOSABLES
You are to them and they are going to do what they want to you just like they did in 2020. Weak people
Renewables = Unreliables
If every green energy system needs backup to work, just build the backup, a massive money saver. The scams have to stop.!
And there lies the truth...the green energy can provide supplemental power but requires investments in the trillions for "battery" backup. It should never be considered the primary.
what means backup? The same 30GW generation which will stand still, consume fuel to stay in 30min reserve, pay wages to full 24h staff, and do nothing, earn zero? Ah, yes, it can be used as display "look, kids, how expensive is thermal generation comparing to our precious green bs!".
@@antontsau No sure what you're arguing, but one thing about "backups", same can be said for emergency services: police and EMTs.
Basically for every gigawatt of green power you need you need at least 100% of standby "backup" generation (coal, gas, nuclear) capability to ensure the grid can be maintained.
@@BWolf00 did you ever hear about "use factor"? What you think it is for police, ambulance or even fire brigade? And how you estimate it for such a backup generation, couple of hours not every day? Oh yes.
Namely. All this green bs requires 100% reserve controllable power with uf 10% max. For network (ie ours, consumers) expense, not pv/wind generator account.
@@BWolf00You need gas and there lies the problem with not giving us gas and giving it away to other countries.
No honest electrical engineer will say renewables can work.
There's nothing renewable about any of it.😅
Only an idiot would say so, obviously renewables are the future, and it requires an astonishing level of stupidity to still not understand that.
Come to narara eco village for open day. It works. On small scale 100 houses with our own energy setup and shared generators and electrician in charge. The same system could be delivered per subburb through council involvement... we feed energy back into your grid too....
@@thedevilsworkshop7720Of course it's renewable as it has to be replaced when it fails, renewal at extreme cost but it doesn't matter its only tax payers money
@robertcampbell6521 fair enough .
Can't supply power?
Then I'll be pushing my supplier for a discount on my bill seeing that the " supply charge " makes up a fair chunk of the bill.
Supply charge is the biggest part of their scam.
Good luck with that.
I warned of this in NZ 4 years ago - yes - 4 years ago --- and now, last week, the NZ Commerce Commision has warned of MASSIVE INCREASES in POWER COSTS - particularly due to the needed grid upgrades... yada yada due to all the reasons stated here... this is infuriating...
All planned
The green activists push for this but in all the virtue signalling they always fail to mention the huge cost.
Ignored profit
Well wait for big inflation on everything from a loaf of bread to literally everything.
Call me a cynic but I bet it will be the unavoidable 'supply' part of your electricity bill that the increase will be tacked onto, not the 'consumption' part. Because people can control their consumption if they really have to. And if you can't control and afford the massive 'supply' part of your bill, you will have to sell your house. "You will own nothing, and be happy" - WEF 2016.
This is a problem everywhere, on windy days half the windmills are standing still too. It would be the same if everyone drove electric cars, the powergrid just can't handle the loading. But if you ask a green politician how they plan to solve this, they just say: "that's a challenge for the future". Because they are totally clueless.
There are going to be no cars and electric cars can be stopped, blown up, etc. Look at what they are building Leisure Cities for the fools who will fall for the sales pitch. It's worldwide and people out to find that out, it's not just this dump.
Grid has not really a serious problem with EVs, grid has a problem with short peakloads, but that problem is getting smaller the more EVs are in service, most people still do not understand that. EVs DO NOT contribute to peakload, the help mitigating that.
The greatest wilderness in Australia is between a greenies ears in my humble opinion.
@@hanswallner2188 explain how they mitigate it? If everyone gets home and likes their car in that’ll add to the load
“Green” politicians really are the lowest of the low, bottom of the toilet people. I despise them and the misery they are inflicting on people…
And at the end , we will not have made one iota of difference to the path of ongoing natural climate change..
So why are we doing it ?
At this stage of the con you are really asking that?
To keep Adam Bandt happy.
Captain Obvious.
What climate change, and where/when in the modern era (since 1880). NOWHERE!
Control
Money and control
If there is too much solar now, why are the government still pushing for more large scale solar farms on fertile farm lands
To get rid of farms, that is why
A few years ago, politicians became medical doctors. Now they are engineers:)
LOL!! 😀
And the police became the stasi.
Man oh man I wish we could listen to Dr Paterson without the urgency to talk over the top of him.
Well he works for Murdoch and wants his job you see. But he would be on a site like most people who speak truth are. Why are you surprised, because you wait for the MSM to tell you every lie they have for years.
Lets hear more from Dr Patterson, and this time let him speak and finish a sentence.
No it's Sky News, you do realise it's media.
Reality begins to bite. I always wondered when this tipping point would be reached. Looks like we are here. I believe Perth has been close to this point frequently where instability becomes the issue.
They have gas they are fine. It's the whole east coast that has problems
Australian politicians making the world of Mad Max a reality.
We might be better off
We need to know the names of the most evil ones who were pushing the energy lies for decades and also the weaklings who should and must be responsible for what they have done!
Politicians and ideologues running any infrastructure is bad enough but when they apply their baseless “knowledge” to a complex and already working system… well, this is what you can expect.
Andrew there's no bloody point in inviting an expert then talking over the top of him.
This is what happens when you allow Cults and Lobby Groups to hijack Infrastructure problems .
Rather than set a Brief " This is the Problem . Attempt a Rational Solution " and present said Brief to the ENGINEERS .
Get caught up with what is really going on. You are so far behind the truth it scares me how people can't or don't want the truth.
@@vivrowe2763. What's " Really Going On " , is that a Country that SHOULD be a Power Exporter is have " Brown Outs " due to Successive Incompetence in handling the Power Infrastructure , along with quite a few Other things too .
Too much Pandering to Lobby Groups , Special Interest Groups (Cults) and playing " Popularity Politics " instead of PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE .
Both of the Major Political Parties are EQUALLY GUILTY over this .
Who would've thought, too much solar is causing problems and destabilizing the grid.
You can't run anything without gas and coal.
The electrical engineers have been saying it for years but Albo and Bowen are so much smarter than the experts, just ask them.
Renewables will never be paid for because the renewables will forever require renewing.👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎
Intergenerational perpetual debt. Bowens legacy of total incompetence.
" the sun goes down at night as it tends to do .."😂😂😂😂
The sun is white, or have you not noticed that. It used to be yellow. The sky spraying is doing all that plus our water is poison
You made that up.
@clydesimpson1462 The sun really does go down at night.
Malinauskas renewables scam in South Australia is a nightmare
Could we get some more detail on that?
Most (more than 50%) of SA's power is not 'renewables', it's diesel, gas and coal.
@@buildmotosykletist1987 and the other 50% comes from Victoria!🤣🤣
@@buildmotosykletist1987 no coal there anymore, since Pt Augusta station closed. Only gas station in Pt Adelaide + turbines + diesels.
@@lloydsingline340It used to be on the news how powe went down all the time. People throwing out food all the time. Most people got a generator, but they are to be banned.
Yes, nor 'leadership.' Far from it. Please let this man speak without interruption.
Would love to see a costing of albos net zero.. and exactly where every cent has gone
Bowen " We're not going to show you costings, but whatever they are, nuclear is more expensive"
Most of the Money went into "Consultants" - Australia Needs a - "Department of Government Efficiency" - D.O.G.E. ------- Make Elon, Australia's first President of the Australian Republic.
He will get the Shit happening.
@@mrdbooks7285 100% , shifty Lawyer grubs stealing in business through Government
And then what
@@mrdbooks7285 Canberra has a shit load of bureaucrats on $1 million plus salaries, these are the very people that should be involved.
The worst sham ever
Laughed about it years ago, but the people needed to become dumber, here we are
Green energy they said. It’s the solution they said. The unreliable power is the future they said. Ignore that every country that moved to heavy renewables it has failed. Intermittent power grid and higher prices.
But people don't want power because the earth is coming to an end. 😂
Is anyone really surprised that this has turned into a cluster f ???
Anything Bowen has had anything to do with has turned to s..t
Albanese only wants to make his mark and make a world headline - it's got nothing to do with what is best for Australia.
True and they or there Corp buddies are raping and pillaging the billions of green dollars . Bowen is very well aware what he has done , for the Corps while our media , one of the many Corps do not expose anything. Grubby grubby lib lab green teal , just different protected rorts without sharing with the public .
I think if I'm Albo in a few years' time I would prefer to be missing in action as this will be a huge embarrassment.
he makes everything best for him. For Australia - who cares, let those helots repent and pay!
This isnst just a man with an agenda, Australia produces far too much resources and threatens the global price fixing. We just gave away 150 bill of gas for free.
Albanese is following in Andrews footsteps, Bankrupting the State/Country with BS Spending pandering to the CC Morons and Alphabet noodle people.
This is where the black mail starts for every one is forced to bye BATTERY'S
Not quite. This is where you are FORCED to Lease Batteries from Government approved suppliers with Government approved connection to the Grid so They can suck your batteries dry when ever they want.
Why? Because Batteries are DANGERIOUS and the Government are "Keeping you safe"
Idiocracy
Ludicrous Bowen.
I am so tired of these news hosts who invite someone on for an interview and then interrupt them and end up talking more than the experts.
He ain't new, he's been here for years and writes in the paper. He doesn't want to lose his job.
That's what happens when you have WEF telling politicians how to run Australia. We are going down hill 😞.
They are getting their palm greased to laugh at you all.
That's what you get for letting Bowen and Al-pinocchio loose on energy😂😂😂the ALP 's policy is a disaster!! Forget renewables fantasy 😈 😇 😂😂😂go "noook-leear" and develop gas and coal😂😂😂😂😂
It's been going on since they signed up to the WEF plan.
They keep shipping coal to China, though. Fortunately that CO2 warms a different planet. 😅 What a clown show.
We contribute 1.3% globally of emissions. You tell me why we are so stupid
@@vivrowe2763 Only politicians are stupid. Mr + Mrs average can see through this bullshit.
Used to make solar panels 😊
Organised crime.
Stop this and bull dose the crap from the land and grow food. There is no sauce that makes solar panels taste better
Too late. They are doing terrible things to your food.
At the end of the day all that money will be spend and nothing to show for it
Yes there will be big piles of unrecyclable solar panels and wind turbine blades and massive concrete foundations covering x farm land that now cannot be farmed.
...but drive electric cars.... ? Do you see it yet?
WEF should be WTF!
No, it's all been out in the open, but people need a two seconds of MSM or it's not true.
Just in case the customers do not conform to our rules….we want control of their off buttons.
They already have that because it's connected to the meter. Why are people so thick
The solution is simple, allow people to disconnect from the grid and be energy dependant, you forced this issue upon yourselves and still want to blame the people you blackmailed into still having to be connected for you own errors.
offgrid is very expensive and very inconvenient. It was the very idea of grid creation 100 years ago - demand averaging and generation concentration reduces energy cost several times.
@antontsau stop talking utter nonsense
@@alanakafang6143 you? Yes. How much costs 10KW offgrid system with 30KWh battery? And its the very minima to provide reliability and quality comparable to simpliest 1ph 63A mains connection - power available and reserve for at least 2 days.
@antontsau mate with your mindset towards using power it's no wonder the grid is failing.
And 100 years ago no one was thinking about generating their own power, the technology wasn't advanced enough then. If you do go off grid, you minimise how much electricity you need to use.
@@alanakafang6143 Yes I do not want to think about power usage. Power is just power, switch it on and it is working. ALWAYS, in any conditions, when I need it, not when I may. So requirements for simple modern dwelling are well known - 63A mains (its standard house connection), 10-20KWh/day consumption (average, you can see it in bills, retailers have to publish it). Adding offgrid unreliability we receive requirement for battery, at leas 2 day consumption to cover (very short!) - 30 KWh capacity. Now your turn to sound the price.
100 years ago, in 1924, Sydney already built electric train network, not talking about trams, lights and so on. In opposite, everybody had to power up himself, any business requiring electricity had to generate it, as no global grid existed. Or continue to use hand power.
Oh yes. Minimise. Live in forest, pray to the wheel. Own nothing, be poor by your own choice. Awesome plan.
Essentially "We want the power to shut down the 'Green' dream we've been creaming on you" 😂
Well you don't listen and enjoy what is not discussed here because this is a news company you only listen to.
Bolt always talks over the experts he has on. Its annoying as hell.
I like Bold but I found myself saying "Let the expert speak!!!"
Sounds drunk tonight ffs
That was no expert in my opinion.
@@aaronlambert9297I can't stand him. Two faced he is.
@@soarer282Nobody wants your opinion
I have been saying this for years. You need rotating machines on the system to provide inertia when riding through power swings, system faults, and frequency stability. This is a time bomb globally. Get accountants and politicians out of this industry!
They have been having this problem at a solar farm near Oakey, QLD for a number of years. If they are not quick enough to turn it off it blows the fuse. Then they need a crane to replace the fuse box which weighs about 8 tonnes.
And you don't ask yourself how do they turn them all off.. they flick a switch. They go up in flames too! People don't ask questions they really don't
Just some bloke from the USA. The solution to this is flywheels. Massive, huge, simple flywheels. Flywheels are the best way to store energy and it dumps it back into the system whenever needed.
In some place they use 2 dams, the top dam is filled at night by pumping water up during low energy demand, during peak load, the top dam lets water flow in turbines to the bottom dam, it is a battery but on a much bigger scale, however the energy losses are high because pump efficiency is not that good.
@@michaelalldritt7649 Flywheels are nearly lossless. Yes, there is no such thing as 100% lossless, but they are the closest we have ever seen.
The announcer needs to give a few seconds for the interaction with the guest. He just hears nothing and feels he needs to speak. How do they not know how the communication system works? It just irritates the mud out of me.
Yeah well look up his name and find the guy he is interviewing. Every thought of doing something to see what is coming. I did in 2020 and it will blow you mind.
How about battery storage systems to store that excess power for when the sun goes down?
Every time the expert tries to talk the interviewer talks over him? Learn some manners, Andrew!
He's a useless know it all this Bolt.
Informative but the interview was very poorly presented with Andrew Bolt rambling on over the point that his guest was attempting to put across. Andrew, you are not an expert in the field, so stop trying to take control.
He is a big nothing Bolt
The "shadow generators" needed to make renewables work are becoming visible. For every MW of renewable power you need a MW of shadow gas, coal or nuclear power. That's a very expensive way to build an electricity generation system. And for those who are shouting "batteries, idiot" they're even more expensive to build. Just look at the pumped hydro "battery" for starters.
The hydro battery is ok when you have nuclear energy you can use it when demand is low rather than waste it pumping water back to the reservoir , solar panels on your house in sunny areas may work to save you.money but. The cost and long term replacement I have my doubts, solar hot water and solar panels in one unit , but not in the UKs cold and dark damp winter weather.
As an Engineer this guy sounds correct in his concern on 100 % renuables without major base load such as Nuclear or Gas that will cost Australia's more in the long run to keep light on
What about the MASSIVE power requirements for AI and all those data centres? No wonder there's no power left for you and I
That is why they need it from the people. It has to be kept very cold always and it uses a heap of energy. As AI is going to replace people in many things people are not important. You need to find out everything and really talk to your family.
Turn our coal back on and stop messing with our grid. We bought it you never had any right to touch that
Got my Fuel generators on standby 👍🏽🥃
G'day @Prognosis how's all your bots going the your bot farm ?
They don't work without fuel and also are going to be banned.
Why are we being told to turn our electricity off,drive through any major town in australia and every building has all lights on all night..
It’s not a disaster but a bonanza for the solar industry making trillions from tax payers subsidies and sales .
If you fell for something connected to the smart meter you are as dumb as they come.
All made in China!
Nothing wrong with brind new coal-fired power station ever Australia got to get rid of net zero emissions crape
Australians voters doing what they do best, voting themselves into oblivion
Is there NOBODY who has the cojones to tell AEMO, Albanese and Bowen that their system does not work!
There is a big difference between as needed power and as available power. And consumers expect as needed power.
Well it will be like South Africa, they get a text to say power is out between this and that time. It's off 12 hours at the minimum a day.
So this is what being a “renewable energy superpower” looks like ? Spare me.
You were warned but called doubters names
Why aren't the people being paid millions to make these crappy decisions for our country EVER held accountable?
When you build without a business plan first, followed by an implementation plan with pert checkpoints this is what you get when no project management plan was created first...government incompetence and no real oversight or person responsible...
You only have to look whose running the clown show to know that a lack of qualifications will always end in cost overrun and disaster.
Wait until they get you to plug your electric car in so they can drag power from it when the system is under pressure
Yeah that's fine.
Also all these roof top solar panels push up the mains voltage to the extent that some devices will shut off due to the voltage being too high. In my area the mains voltage goes into the mid 250s volts during sunny days when its suppose to be only 230 volts.
Who cares.
@@vivrowe2763 Will care when your appliance shuts down or has a shorter life !
INTERMITTENT… NOT BASELOAD… you don’t need to be an engineer to understand this, you need commonsense.
Yet our pm said we could charge ev’s overnight… THAT TELLS YOU A LOT ABOUT HIS INTELLECTUAL UNDERSTANDING.
Tells me more about the people today actually. You can't think anymore, no brains.
Think I'm the only one in my street that hasn't installed the toxic, useless crap.
Your neighbours are guilty as everyone I saw getting it done. But you will be forced by council soon, because they are foreign owned.
This is why Venture Capitalists never got involved decades ago……
Shut off the politicians electricity first
ACT - off thermal generation grid! In whole!
Also do not deliver oil and meat to there.
They will never go without. They will be able to have everything you don't.
These issues were foretold more than 2 years ago, when blackout Bowen was trumpeting solar and windmills not sending out any invoices for power. What a moron, and now the truths are all coming home to roost, and they will not go away, we are already in too deep. At this late stage in this game, there is just one available path forward, build new, more efficient, coal fired power stations, as quickly as possible, and hope we can build them fast enough, to stay ahead of the curve. (no chance this will happen of course). Yes, of course gas would be better, but we are so well organized we already do not have enough available deliverable gas to meet current demand, never mind adding new power stations on top. New gas wells to tap available reserves are 5 years out, if we begin now, but we are not even thinking about beginning now. So, in our infinite wisdom?? we are now importing gas, from overseas. OMG we are just so smart in our green-ness. Hey I know what, lets get city councils to pay the green protesters $22,000 to make a meaningless protest somewhere, follow that Sydney City Council lead. If Bowen had one more grain of common sense, it would be lonely.
Well it was way before then actually but people can't be bothered listening to anything but the news on TV and sport. They know how easily people are kept like they are
Engineers were warning ⚠️ that this approach to energy availability and stability is with renewables in the current configurations and £ constraints not 🚭 possible. Yet many politicians from Labour and all from the greens were pushing it. Will there be any consequence for these totally irresponsible politicos any penalty and prison terms?
Dude. Let the guest speak! U keep interrupting him!
He doesn't read the comments, only AI does
🤣🤣🤣🤣Well done Albo!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🥳🥳🥳I love it! WAKE UP SHEEP! WHAT A CIRCUS!
Our Enemies didn’t even need to fire a shot. Just needed to pay off a few Politicians to say “WHATS THE COST IF WE DO NOTHING” at a fraction of the cost of even a single missile.🤮
Yes Australia is finished and you will see it more next year.
A. Remove solar from grid for energy independence.
remove ACT from thermal generation grid.
Australia, is it bad enough yet?
Not yet. Still too many watching MSM listening to the PROPAGANDA.
I said it was a frawd when this solar crap started.
A friend gets 5 cents KW discount for 8 panels. Each panel in good sun creats many more KWs providers getting at least $2 panel per KW from one panel x by 8 equals $16 per hour. You get 5 cents.
My estimates may vary but it gives you the picture.
Frawd
And it's connected to the smart meter, which they can use all the power and get nothing off soon. Absolute joke
I'm a pedant. Fraud!
Bolt are you talking or is the expert talking?
Oh he knows everything just ask him.
hence, why solar and wind are 'supplemental' power generation sources and not 'base' power sources.
So why have them if they still need what we already had in the first place?
@@vivrowe2763 I don't know of any public available simulators. You may find looking at various energy documents boring. Not a good analogy, but say you lived in a cabin on a 10k elevation mountain. Town is in the valley. About half the year, it will snow/ice up, with the rest being good weather. I would allege that the first vehicle that you buy is a 4x4 truck. Sure, you can drive that year around/everyday, but if you can afford it, then you also buy a car. (basically, a vehicle that is less expensive insurance, oil changes and better gas mileage). Sure, you can't haul as much and can't handle snow/ice, but you don't need that every day. Does this make any sense?
(A little real world is that I like owning a solar farm but its supplemental and know that I'm useless if there are storms and nighttime. Devastated if it hails)
Australia's first renewable energy farm was the White Cliffs Solar Power Station, which was built in 1981 in New South Wales. Australia's first commercial wind farm was the Salmon Beach Wind Farm, which was built in 1987 in Western Australia. How many times were these energy farms renewed to keep them going?
& in the meantime, how many coal & gas fired power stations have been built, rebuilt & repaired? Everything wears out, so trying to make out that it's a phenomenon that only applies to solar & wind generation is disingenuous.
Solar can produce as much as it wants, but it doesn’t have enertia to maintain a balance in frequency. Reserve batteries come in or out they cannot supply continuously at hi depletion rate on high grid demand load.
Greenouts.
We are doing silly stuff like this in canada too. British Columbia and Quebec has some of the biggest baddest hydro electric generation on the planet, we still cant keep up with baseload without having some other reliable source of intermittent generation.
It wasn't meant to work told everyone that for damn years.
It BS and we all are seeing it.
Our lights went off twice today in Adelaide....happens all the time
Hmmm. Batteries?
Good luck with your white goods warranties when the motors are destroyed by hertz fluctuations.
You shouldn't need to be an engineer to understand hertz are best delivered by rotating mass, like steam turbines.
Oh they are plastic crap today anyway.
The engineers are doing an excellent job of dealing with the transition.
Go home of a evening and do no washing , low air con , seems like with all the sun we are over
heating. What about the sun changing getting hotter , Revelation 16: better read whole chapter.
Maybe Mr Space X could build some rockets to push the earth a couple of thousand km"s futher away from the sun.🤷♂️
Yes revelation. It foretells the times we are living in right now. God forewarns us in the bible of what is to come. The bible has been taken away so people don’t know the truth.
@@nomyafiftyonefifty8081They are spraying across the sun why do you think it's white, not yellow.
Yeah, this is a very bizarre yet major problem. In simple terms we need power that is consistent in terms of grid stability, meaning not too much or tooo little. I'd say fly wheel batteries are best, but any kind of big battery would work.
Australia is cooked
Never.
Yeah finished actually.