sam barrett - I completely agree. It’s a shame i only discovered Shameless just recently. Amazing amazing storyline and portrayals by the actors. I am in awe and mesmerized by Cameron and Noel’s acting. So convincing and pure.
cum-fart /@Ryan Thomas Debbie was excruciating to watch the earlier seasons, but I personally think she’s one of the best actresses on the show now. I literally would skip scenes whenever she pops up lol now I’m turning the volume up and rewinding just to see some dirty Debs
For those saying Ian’s manic episode was too much or dramatic. He has Bipolar 1 disorder which means his manic episodes are much more elevated than someone who has Bipolar 2 disorder. He did an outstanding job displaying this debilitating disorder. But as someone who struggles with it I have to say watching it can be somewhat triggering because of how well they did displaying it. But Cameron Monaghan is an amazing actor and deserves tons of credit.
Agreed, most realistic portrayal I’ve ever seen, and true to the debilitating conditions of bp. Anyone saying it’s overdramatic needs to widen their knowledge of bipolar disorder (yes, even if you have it). My manic episodes are just like Ian’s, they’re the scariest shit I will ever have experienced and they don’t need to be dramatized to be dramatic.
Yeah but him pushing for mickey to come out was. Especially since he was pushing for him to do it in front of his homophobic father who raped his son and made him watch, he was aware the whole reality of the situation and that's definitely due to his mental illness. I believe the show runners talked about this
How did you deal with it? I didn't realize the parallels I had with him until I saw this and it crushed me. I was literally running miles and miles and partying just like that then crashed real hard literally bed ridden for no reason and it ruined my life.
I somehow identify with Ian, I also runaway from home but it wasn't somethig that I planned or anything I just disasioted from reality and just walk and walk and walk and didn't knew SHIT... I was found passed on at a park in my city... before that I was really just... a mess I party a lot, drank a lot, smoke a lot, but I was a cheerleader, I was in the choir, I was in theatre, I was straight A's student... I thought that I wanted to be a doctor. After the mixed episode, everyone at my school knew... it was horrible... I was then really depressed. It's all cool now but everyday is a fight... but that's life for everyone ...
I've never seen a more accurate depiction of this illness... It's something I've struggled with for my entire adult life and I've never seen it in media this way.
*aepr84* not at all. I'm not bipolar though I have suffered from chronic depression. Anyway, as a teenager I was in a psychiatric hospital for nearly a year and was exposed to many sufferers of bipolar disorder. Some of them do get really manic. This was a good representation.
I think I appreciate this show's way of having someone with a mental illness be regular person struggling with something difficult instead of like with some shows that have them snap and become criminals and murderers. That is highly inaccurate as those of us with mental illness only commit 6% of crime, but are 11 times more likely to be a victim of violent crime than the mentally healthy population. Portraying the mentally ill as ready to snap at a moment's notice and kill someone is not helpful and only serves to make lives even more difficult than they already are. It really pisses me off that writer's are so lazy as to use it as a go to in their storytelling.
6:48 this scene is so perfect because it shows that Fiona knows exactly how to at least attempt to help with bipolar because of her mum. And it also shows that she is an amazing big sister. I have so much respect for Fiona istg
The attempt to help is beautiful, but I also advocate letting the neurochemistry run their course, when it HITS, it’s extremely difficult. We are almost as in non control of our bodies as Manic. This time it’s just a dead blank feeling and no energy. I am medicated so I can’t really remember which of the two, I am, I believe one…extreme bouts of energy followed by a dramatic crash. Until the meds kick in, and begin regulating (if episode is caused by going off treatment ) or the meds begin to level you off. (For cases of deregulation of mood despite treatment/ it happens/ a particularly powerful circumstances triggers can imo overwhelm the meds) Damage control and love is the best thing, just have patience till the brain finds an even footing, constant vigilance in case of self harmful behavior as these can escalate to suicide almost in one thought. And find ways to outlet the mania to good or less destructive ways, like if they wanna pursue pottery or some random career, allow the exploration as much as possible . It’s not Likely you will talk them out of these anyway
BxGirl Blazin' I thought they did a really good job, I have two male friends who are bipolar and when they are manic, it's very similar to how they act.
The only thing I didnt agree with was showing him on lithium. People who take it have thier fucking skin fall off. I would know my mother has it and took lithium
I kinda knew something was up when Ian finally came home and he was talking with Fioana. The way he was acting just wasn't fitting me, Ian usually was calm and chill he was the less insane Gallagher. So seeing him act like a ball of energy and so pumped just gave me a weird feeling...
when you have bipolar you usually have manic episode (unusual hyper activity, feeling like you can do anything like your on top of the world, having alot of confidence, and so on), and then it usually follows by major depressive episode--like what Ian was having in this video
Jasper Barulo It's not an easy thing to deal with. I know from experience. When I wake up, I feel like the most beautiful person on this entire planet, but than a few moments pass and I start to get heavy, my once hyper mood now somber. It's frustrating. At one point I'm super loud and bubbly, than on the other point I'm super quiet and depressed.
First of all, love your profile pic. Marina is one of my all-time favorite singers! Second, I'm not bipolar (at least I highly doubt it, never been diagnosed or anything), but I know what that mood shift is like. Maybe mine isn't exactly the same, but I get 1 positive or happy thought and it's SO SO suddenly just DROWNED out by so much negativity. And the thing is, I have to focus on absolutely nothing but that one positive feeling with EVERYTHING I've got or it goes away. Do you know how difficult it is to grab tight onto something that isn't physical? It sucksss. I don't understand
It's hard having unmotivated feelings/moods. You don't know If you wake up the next morning feeling like you are on cokaine or If you wake up wishing you didn't. It's also a heavy topic to talk about, normal people can't relate and it makes it so much harder to go through it alone.
@@Project32HMT32 There are multiple forms of bipolar disorder. If you have it, it sounds like either a ziklothymia where you are basically very moody for a while (going up down, up down, wake, tired, and so on), bipolar 2 where you get manic (hypomania) features for a while then an extended depression (often a major one), or you are in the mixed spectrum of type 2. It's hard to sometimes exactly pinpoint what form one has, what can be clearly called is type 1, because the fullblown manic phase is very lifethreatening and obvious. You totally lose control which you most often dont do with a hypomania.
This show educated me so much on what bipolar disorder is. If I'm honest, before I knew I was quite ignorant and didn't realise It was such a major mental healthy issue and effected people in such a way. This is what i love about shameless, it shows people the truth, even if it's disturbing.
me tooo , i though (and i strongly apologize for what i'm about to say) that people with bipolar disorder were crazy and just changes mood all the time but it's not that at all it's deeper than that and much more
Same! I had an ex who would get extremely manic and be immersed in these crazy projects for days. He wouldn’t sleep, he’d talk just like this, always full of energy. I never saw the depressive side, I’m not sure if that’s always part of the disorder
@@ameliafoley9569 im bipolar and i suffer more of like what ian does the busyness and hyperactivity and the rush to get up and go then out of nowhere i crash and i sleep for a week straight and dont eat anything and don't talk.. idk the exact name but bipolar disorder can be either just the depressive shit, just the manic shit or both..
I’m glad the show is helping people understand it more... most portrayals are really unrealistic and frankly offensive to those of us who actually suffer from BP. I was young when I was diagnosed (15) and it felt like everywhere I looked it was awful, hurtful characters, and since I was so young it made me feel like everyone thought I was awful and hurtful because that’s what they were watching. Ian’s portrayal is so great to me because it shows the raw awfulness of the disorder without making Ian himself seem like a bad person. Besides that, they really went hardcore with symptoms, and it hurts to watch but it’s the real shit.
As someone who struggles with bipolar disorder II (the depressive type) the last thing we want when we are depressed is for people to be hounding us to get up. We want to be left alone. BUT, please, please, do not leave us alone. You can only do so much persuading, I understand, but after a decent amount. leave us alone while still being around. Maybe make us at least lie down on the couch. We may not be able to get up, but we might. Make us drink water, try to have us eat. Again, all this persuasion may be futile, but it helps, believe it or not. And as annoyed as we may be at the moment, when we start to feel better again, believe we will appreciate you forever. Even if we are no longer close.
NGC4622Spiral This is so true. I also have Bipolar II. I've got it pretty severe too. It hurts, seeing the way I impact myself and the people around me..
There’s someone out there for you . I have bipolar disorder and OCD and have been with the love of my life for the past two years about to be three . Mental disorders don’t stop because you are in love but it definitely makes you feel better that you aren’t alone when you feel that way in your mind .
I am also bipolar. I have been with my husband for 9 almost 10 years. He has been through with my manic and severe depressive episodes. It takes a lot of work but it can be done.
I like how they even delve into it deeper throughout the season just because he’s taking the pills doesn’t mean he’s magically cured I love how the show really gets it right
yess, i see a lot of people saying that him blowing up a van or the gay jesus thing was out of character, but the way i see it, it kinda reminds you that he still IS bipolar after all.
Ian is so good at playing a bipolar person. I'm bipolar myself and I relate so much to his struggles with anger, depression and the hypermaniac episodes.
@@peysullyy1057 yea he did really well as jerome and jeremiah i feel like jerome is the energetic and happy version of ian but psychotic and jeremiah is the really calm and slow version of ian
the knife to the throat, the quick decisions, the constant look for a thrill and adrenaline. not wanting to get out of bed, telling people to leave you alone, no food, just laying there. I relate he did an amazing job portraying this illness
@@milastefanovic4538 she ran away and abandoned Liam. She left Debbie in a similar position that Monica and Frank left her in. She is so much like them. Given I understand leaving a toxic situation is what's best for you but it was really wrong of her to abandon Liam like she did knowing how dysfunctional her family was... Fiona did the same shit her parents did to her to Liam more than once.
When I first saw Ian’s bipolar I thought it was dramatic, but after seeing someone (my sister’s boyfriend) throw his bipolar meds out the window, talking enthusiastically about all his business ideas, buying things, getting paranoid that the government/FBI was following him, that my family was working for the government agents going after him, run away to California, point a gun at random people, get pulled over for reckless driving in New Mexico, getting arrested for threatening a cop with a firearm, and attempting suicide…I think Ian’s actor did a great job.
@@SweetSword Ian was the one who said that in the pilot episode when Fiona saw him sitting in the living room trying to throw spitballs into passed out Frank's mouth. I don't recall Mickey ever saying that.
Kye face you will feel better knowing its because if bi polar i remember hating myself for years thinkin im just a weirdo but since i figured its bi polar i somehow feel more normal lol
he plays it so well, that feeling when you are on top of the world and everyone else feels like boring old farts is so relatable and then the crash sleeping for days having people tell you to get up when you are just drained Jesus, he definitely did his research.
this show really got me when Ian was diagnosed as Bipolar. I was diagnosed years ago and thanks to this show, i felt like for once it was accurately depicted and didn’t make me feel so bad about myself. i used to be embarrassed, i would isolate because my family would tell me i was “crazy”. This show showed me to accept myself for it and get the help i need. And to all those out there dealing with it as well, you are not crazy, you are not a bother, you are important and loved. getting help can be scary but i swear it’s worth it.
OMG its legit the same for me my family calls me a crackhead crazy Irritable its so dumb im just as likely a person and im trying to be a better person improve myself
I've been researching bipolar disorder for a few months and I started noticing something was different about Ian when I was watching the show on Netflix and I came here to get some more info and this is really heartbreaking. What I adore about this show is that it's realistic to the point and it does not glamorize mental illness. I read somewhere that men start with a manic episode. That might very for some people.
As someone who suffers from bipolar it's heartbreaking to see how accurate he portrays someone suffering from it. Some days I feel like I'm on top of the world and I can do anything, but some times I can lie in bed for weeks and not move. I wish more people could understand what it was like. I feel so alone sometimes.
Mickey is one of my favorite characters of the show, Noel plays him so well, I love the sense that he’s a wise guy, a tough guy but has a heart deep down, he just arcs so well in the outline of the series and of course isn’t able to do this without Ian
Cameron Monaghan has true talent. He put a lump in my throat in the last two minutes. The transition from his happy and excitable attitude to his depressed state reminded me of one of my family members who also suffers from bipolar disorder. Pure and beautiful talent
i suffer from bipolar disorder 1 and watching this is literally like fuck this is how I am when im manic. after hearing the shit I did while manic its awful. then the depression hits like a fucking train
i have bipolar type 2. thats exactly how i`d act during extreme manic episode. it does get alot better over time and with age if u accept it and open to treatment. it takes a very long time to get meds just right. but it does get alot better with good care and a good support system. my whole family has it. i got hit with it at the age of 22. i`m 33 now and doing way better. under close care. it took me 8 years to get my meds right. i had seizures from too much serotenine from bad meds. it takes a very long time and close care from doctor`s. that is if u have a good doctor.
I've lived with people with bipolar disorder and it's kind of scary how accurate this is but I will say he has amazing acting ability he plays it so well
I’m so happy that they ended Ian’s character with him understanding his disorder, and finally becoming happy and content with himself. Being bipolar is not easy and sucks everyday. I really love the character development. Hopefully I’m next.
My little sister has bipolar mania with (manic episodes). The way Ian plays this is to a tee how my sister is during a manic phase. The highs are extremely high and the lows are devastating. Great acting. Made me tear up thinking about the time we found my sister walking barefoot in the snow 2 am downtown having sit downs with homeless guys and “tracking a pigeon” that she had a connection with. There’s many more but that 1 stood out.
Seeing Ian go through the same thing I did was hard. no one truly understands how draining having Bipolar is. I have type one and these are the kind of symptoms I experienced. So to relate to him and Monica on the bipolar got me in this show. If any of you are struggling reach out to someone. There is someone who is willing to be there and help. I am glad you are still here and your fighting. This world gets harder and harder everyday. I love you all and hope you all are staying safe🤍
As a gay male with bipolar disorder at 20 years old this is the first time I’ve ever seen myself portrayed on screen. It was an emotional rollercoaster for me, but brought a lot of healing🧡
5:56 the moment when your like LEAVE ME ALONE, but also at the time like 'dont go'. You want to be left alone, but you dont want to be alone.. its conflicting and I totally feel for him. (My mom has bipolar 1 and I have learned how to care for her during these times. (I've also been effected by deppresion a few time) so the way they portrayed bipolar disorder in this show, hit pretty close to home for me.) Tip: never call anybody with a mental illness 'crazy'.
My dad was bipolar and this show showed me what it must have been like behind closed doors for him. The fact that him and people with bipolar disorder have to go through this is insane.
I don't struggle from bipolar disorder but, watching Cameron act, its making me be in his shoes.. jumping around giving out drinks, punching the crap out of people then staying in bed... depressed, waiting for death to take me seeing everyone I love or loved walk away like into the sunset and never coming back...
i see the birth of joker here HAHAHAH."i have a ton of energy" i can relate, and it's only cyclothymia and it alr sucks so much. manic state freaks me out cause i find it harder to control my emotions but then depressive state ain't prety either. that aside, cameron is so dreamy i cant
When Ian hits the depressive low and he whispers for his family to go away, that hit hard, because sometimes I get so depressed I can hardly talk as well :((
The scene of him in the club when we hadn’t seen him for a few episodes scared me, I didn’t think it was bipolar until he had that depressive episode but I thought he was on a lot of drugs or something.
It's insane how accurate this is. The emotional highs and the lows. The mania. All of it. The episodes of mania are even scarier because you have your emotional hi which leaves you feeling amazing and like you're on top of the world and then more severe cases having a psychotic break and In my case just feeling amazing and hyper focusing on like everything but then you start to fall which makes you feel normal and then you fall even more into a dark deep depression which makes it feel like you're suffocating with all the negativity by that I mean like Suicide is always on your mind self harm seems like an option to every minor inconvenience. And you can go months feeling great and then bam you're hit with another bipolar influenced hypo or even just manic episode. Mental illness, isn't it great?
To me, Ian is the Gallagher sibling I loved the most. He really just wanted to make his own life. Bipolar disorder is so tricky. Until the meds are right it is a nightmare. I was so glad this show really made his mental health as real as it could be and let him have his dignity. They pulled no punches with his story.
Acting like a person with biopolar sorry if I spelt it wrong anyway acting like a person with biopolar is hard but Cameron did it sooo well he deserves an Oscar
TW// diagnosed with BP 1 manic depressive dis. This is making me cry because the first part made me so thrilled like I felt it all in my body that same rush Ian is feeling, then I started to think to myself.. this is very familiar. I’ve been drinking excessively talking extremely fast trolling over my words, having plans of bleaching my hair getting piercings and tattoos. Lol as I’m writing this out I’m just realizing I’ve been manic this whole past 2-3 weeks. Literally watching the second half of the depression made me cry because my family had to resort to those tactics to me too... I always feel so guilty for seeing me like that but sometimes it’s just so so hard too hard to speak it’s so exhausting and I just can’t move the lack of energy is profound.
when they showed his manic side it made my heart drop because i understood it and it just broke my heart because this is all very real. I had an incredible week. a fantastic fucking week some time last year and i was so energized i wasn't sleeping very well. and i thought yes, i'm finally getting better. but that wasn't the case. i went a month without leaving my room for anything other than food or using the bathroom the morning after it all happened. i wasn't speaking to anyone and i couldn't be outside. i became so sensitive to light (because i'd be laying in the dark for hours) i had to wear sunglasses indoors. that was just a few months ago. I'm 16 and I was diagnosed not too long ago. I still experience mania and it's pretty bad. but recently i started therapy so this is actually kind of motivating me to get better
I just have monopolar depression (more accurately I have experienced extreme acute depressive phases amidst general disthymia from an anxiety disorder, so a rather different diagnosis), and this still hit me really hard.
Seeing this actually makes me sad how much I relate to this... I’ve been diagnosed but I’ve been in denial because of the stigma surrounding it but nope this is what I go through regularly
i was re watching series, and i see that too , i think monica is misunderstood i think she just wanted to cram her high episodes with all her fun and happiness before she has a down episode
It's hard to find people who are willing to deal with someone with bipolar type 1 or 2. Even though it's a show I'm glad that they showed support from both family and relationships especially between Ian and Mickey
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It’s actually crazy how good all the shameless actors are
sam barrett - I completely agree. It’s a shame i only discovered Shameless just recently. Amazing amazing storyline and portrayals by the actors. I am in awe and mesmerized by Cameron and Noel’s acting. So convincing and pure.
except for debbie
Debbie's acting is bad. Watch her fight with Carl's gf...
I've still gotta watch the show, but I love watching all the scenes on TH-cam my favorite character is Carl Gallagher so far.
cum-fart /@Ryan Thomas
Debbie was excruciating to watch the earlier seasons, but I personally think she’s one of the best actresses on the show now. I literally would skip scenes whenever she pops up lol now I’m turning the volume up and rewinding just to see some dirty Debs
He legitimately scared the shit out of me in this show. Hes a great actor.
Hells Bells watch him in gotham
Have you watched Gotham?
You should see Gotham, he can be more scary
you need to see gotham
i mean i was gonna say watch gotham, but i think you already know
For those saying Ian’s manic episode was too much or dramatic. He has Bipolar 1 disorder which means his manic episodes are much more elevated than someone who has Bipolar 2 disorder. He did an outstanding job displaying this debilitating disorder. But as someone who struggles with it I have to say watching it can be somewhat triggering because of how well they did displaying it. But Cameron Monaghan is an amazing actor and deserves tons of credit.
So does he acc have bipolar in real life?
Chanel Cephas No, as far as I know he doesn’t.
Thank you. I have bipolar 1 and I completely agree with this.
Mrs. Valeska I'm bipolar 1
Agreed, most realistic portrayal I’ve ever seen, and true to the debilitating conditions of bp. Anyone saying it’s overdramatic needs to widen their knowledge of bipolar disorder (yes, even if you have it). My manic episodes are just like Ian’s, they’re the scariest shit I will ever have experienced and they don’t need to be dramatized to be dramatic.
Ian beating up Terry wasn't a bipolar moment, it was an "I always hated my bf's dad, here's my chance" moment
Yeah but him pushing for mickey to come out was. Especially since he was pushing for him to do it in front of his homophobic father who raped his son and made him watch, he was aware the whole reality of the situation and that's definitely due to his mental illness. I believe the show runners talked about this
YUP
Do you know what episode it was when they were at the bar
@@raylynnworld12 season 4 episode 11. one of my favorite episodes.
super weenie hut jr’s I met when they were in the strip clup
as someone with bipolar disorder, seeing a character i already loved dealing with it really helped me, especially how mickey was there for him.
How did you deal with it? I didn't realize the parallels I had with him until I saw this and it crushed me. I was literally running miles and miles and partying just like that then crashed real hard literally bed ridden for no reason and it ruined my life.
I somehow identify with Ian, I also runaway from home but it wasn't somethig that I planned or anything I just disasioted from reality and just walk and walk and walk and didn't knew SHIT... I was found passed on at a park in my city... before that I was really just... a mess I party a lot, drank a lot, smoke a lot, but I was a cheerleader, I was in the choir, I was in theatre, I was straight A's student... I thought that I wanted to be a doctor. After the mixed episode, everyone at my school knew... it was horrible... I was then really depressed. It's all cool now but everyday is a fight... but that's life for everyone ...
Chloe Kessock what if you have to piss
Paula Porras part of bipolar disorder is the impulsive behavior sometimes dangerous. I hope you get the help you need to stay safe
Nah he’s gay
Mickey never left his side when he was going through this. Long live Gallavich.
THEY GOT MARRIED!!
Kuro Ghost well shit thanks for the spoiler
@@bangtanobsessed964 you are welcome
Kuro Ghost THE SPOILER OMFG 😭
I love those two.
I've never seen a more accurate depiction of this illness... It's something I've struggled with for my entire adult life and I've never seen it in media this way.
+Amber wasn't he a bit too manic?
*aepr84* not at all. I'm not bipolar though I have suffered from chronic depression. Anyway, as a teenager I was in a psychiatric hospital for nearly a year and was exposed to many sufferers of bipolar disorder. Some of them do get really manic. This was a good representation.
If you are interested in series dealing with those problems watch Skam 😊
I think I appreciate this show's way of having someone with a mental illness be regular person struggling with something difficult instead of like with some shows that have them snap and become criminals and murderers. That is highly inaccurate as those of us with mental illness only commit 6% of crime, but are 11 times more likely to be a victim of violent crime than the mentally healthy population. Portraying the mentally ill as ready to snap at a moment's notice and kill someone is not helpful and only serves to make lives even more difficult than they already are. It really pisses me off that writer's are so lazy as to use it as a go to in their storytelling.
I'm not bipolar but I have BPD and strongly relate to this too much
I think it’s so sad when Mickey brings Debbie in and she just knows :(
that part made me cry so hard
For the life of me I can’t remember what episode it is! Do you know? 😂
Season 4 episode 5
@@AllyTaylor1 4x12 :)
It was a Code Pink
6:48 this scene is so perfect because it shows that Fiona knows exactly how to at least attempt to help with bipolar because of her mum. And it also shows that she is an amazing big sister. I have so much respect for Fiona istg
Same
Episode?
She made mistakes, but never maliciously. And in comparison to her parents' "mistakes" she is still far better.
The attempt to help is beautiful, but I also advocate letting the neurochemistry run their course, when it HITS, it’s extremely difficult. We are almost as in non control of our bodies as Manic. This time it’s just a dead blank feeling and no energy. I am medicated so I can’t really remember which of the two, I am, I believe one…extreme bouts of energy followed by a dramatic crash.
Until the meds kick in, and begin regulating (if episode is caused by going off treatment ) or the meds begin to level you off. (For cases of deregulation of mood despite treatment/ it happens/ a particularly powerful circumstances triggers can imo overwhelm the meds)
Damage control and love is the best thing, just have patience till the brain finds an even footing, constant vigilance in case of self harmful behavior as these can escalate to suicide almost in one thought. And find ways to outlet the mania to good or less destructive ways, like if they wanna pursue pottery or some random career, allow the exploration as much as possible . It’s not Likely you will talk them out of these anyway
@@lionsjourney29 I completely agree. I have EUPD and bipolar
This is very realistic. How sad.
BxGirl Blazin' I thought they did a really good job, I have two male friends who are bipolar and when they are manic, it's very similar to how they act.
It is I deal with this daily his manic is higher then mine but I still do reckless things and I still clam up and shut down
@@xxTheCatsMeow hmmj
I go through this all the time. It's fucking sad and add schizophrenia into the fold, doesn't make it any better.
The only thing I didnt agree with was showing him on lithium. People who take it have thier fucking skin fall off. I would know my mother has it and took lithium
I kinda knew something was up when Ian finally came home and he was talking with Fioana. The way he was acting just wasn't fitting me, Ian usually was calm and chill he was the less insane Gallagher. So seeing him act like a ball of energy and so pumped just gave me a weird feeling...
IKR!
I just saw how he was acted and in my soul something said. Something is going on this ain’t Ian
Yeah same. For me it was at the club in the first scene because even then something wasn’t right.
Brazenly Me same
I could tell right away (from all the foreshadowing) and it just completely broke my heart
when you have bipolar you usually have manic episode (unusual hyper activity, feeling like you can do anything like your on top of the world, having alot of confidence, and so on), and then it usually follows by major depressive episode--like what Ian was having in this video
Jasper Barulo It's not an easy thing to deal with. I know from experience. When I wake up, I feel like the most beautiful person on this entire planet, but than a few moments pass and I start to get heavy, my once hyper mood now somber. It's frustrating. At one point I'm super loud and bubbly, than on the other point I'm super quiet and depressed.
First of all, love your profile pic. Marina is one of my all-time favorite singers! Second, I'm not bipolar (at least I highly doubt it, never been diagnosed or anything), but I know what that mood shift is like. Maybe mine isn't exactly the same, but I get 1 positive or happy thought and it's SO SO suddenly just DROWNED out by so much negativity. And the thing is, I have to focus on absolutely nothing but that one positive feeling with EVERYTHING I've got or it goes away. Do you know how difficult it is to grab tight onto something that isn't physical? It sucksss. I don't understand
It's hard having unmotivated feelings/moods. You don't know If you wake up the next morning feeling like you are on cokaine or If you wake up wishing you didn't. It's also a heavy topic to talk about, normal people can't relate and it makes it so much harder to go through it alone.
I learned that from Skam!
@@Project32HMT32 There are multiple forms of bipolar disorder. If you have it, it sounds like either a ziklothymia where you are basically very moody for a while (going up down, up down, wake, tired, and so on), bipolar 2 where you get manic (hypomania) features for a while then an extended depression (often a major one), or you are in the mixed spectrum of type 2. It's hard to sometimes exactly pinpoint what form one has, what can be clearly called is type 1, because the fullblown manic phase is very lifethreatening and obvious. You totally lose control which you most often dont do with a hypomania.
This show educated me so much on what bipolar disorder is. If I'm honest, before I knew I was quite ignorant and didn't realise It was such a major mental healthy issue and effected people in such a way. This is what i love about shameless, it shows people the truth, even if it's disturbing.
me tooo , i though (and i strongly apologize for what i'm about to say) that people with bipolar disorder were crazy and just changes mood all the time but it's not that at all it's deeper than that and much more
Same! I had an ex who would get extremely manic and be immersed in these crazy projects for days. He wouldn’t sleep, he’d talk just like this, always full of energy. I never saw the depressive side, I’m not sure if that’s always part of the disorder
@@ameliafoley9569 im bipolar and i suffer more of like what ian does the busyness and hyperactivity and the rush to get up and go then out of nowhere i crash and i sleep for a week straight and dont eat anything and don't talk.. idk the exact name but bipolar disorder can be either just the depressive shit, just the manic shit or both..
Jason Anderson having just one or the other is called “unipolar”
I’m glad the show is helping people understand it more... most portrayals are really unrealistic and frankly offensive to those of us who actually suffer from BP. I was young when I was diagnosed (15) and it felt like everywhere I looked it was awful, hurtful characters, and since I was so young it made me feel like everyone thought I was awful and hurtful because that’s what they were watching. Ian’s portrayal is so great to me because it shows the raw awfulness of the disorder without making Ian himself seem like a bad person. Besides that, they really went hardcore with symptoms, and it hurts to watch but it’s the real shit.
As someone who struggles with bipolar disorder II (the depressive type) the last thing we want when we are depressed is for people to be hounding us to get up. We want to be left alone. BUT, please, please, do not leave us alone. You can only do so much persuading, I understand, but after a decent amount. leave us alone while still being around. Maybe make us at least lie down on the couch. We may not be able to get up, but we might. Make us drink water, try to have us eat. Again, all this persuasion may be futile, but it helps, believe it or not. And as annoyed as we may be at the moment, when we start to feel better again, believe we will appreciate you forever. Even if we are no longer close.
You explained our feelings so well... It sux. Alot of times my family thought I was on drugs... Which I aint gonna lie about. I used to...
Yeah! It's true
NGC4622Spiral
Damn. Inneed to show this comment to my family.
NGC4622Spiral This is so true. I also have Bipolar II. I've got it pretty severe too. It hurts, seeing the way I impact myself and the people around me..
Everything u just said was true. I wanna be left alone but I don't want to be left alone. I think im crazy
I'm bipolar and seeing how Mickey's there for him it shows me that u could still find love
There’s someone out there for you . I have bipolar disorder and OCD and have been with the love of my life for the past two years about to be three . Mental disorders don’t stop because you are in love but it definitely makes you feel better that you aren’t alone when you feel that way in your mind .
Same
I am also bipolar. I have been with my husband for 9 almost 10 years. He has been through with my manic and severe depressive episodes. It takes a lot of work but it can be done.
So true
I like how they even delve into it deeper throughout the season just because he’s taking the pills doesn’t mean he’s magically cured I love how the show really gets it right
yess, i see a lot of people saying that him blowing up a van or the gay jesus thing was out of character, but the way i see it, it kinda reminds you that he still IS bipolar after all.
That's something Mickey just didn't understand...he wanted Ian to be ok again so badly that he wasn't listening to what they were telling him
Cameron is sooo talentend omg
*talented
Yes he got better every season
Honestly true
Watched him in Gotham as the Joker and I had to throw him his flowers💯💐 he's a phenomenal actor.
Ian is so good at playing a bipolar person. I'm bipolar myself and I relate so much to his struggles with anger, depression and the hypermaniac episodes.
You mean Cameron Monaghan? I agree
I started crying when debbie went in the room knowing whats wrong with him :(
What episode was it?
@@unusgang8512 s4ep2 or 12 I think
when he smiles while eating the sandwich all i see is the joker
Hector Arredondo When Cameron smiles,laughs,or holds a knife to someone’s throat,all I see is The Joker.
Ahhhh him I’m Gotham gon make me act up
@@peysullyy1057 yea he did really well as jerome and jeremiah i feel like jerome is the energetic and happy version of ian but psychotic and jeremiah is the really calm and slow version of ian
the knife to the throat, the quick decisions, the constant look for a thrill and adrenaline. not wanting to get out of bed, telling people to leave you alone, no food, just laying there. I relate he did an amazing job portraying this illness
still shocks me that cameron didn't win any awards for playing ian. he's truly amazing
Agreed. Emmy Rossum, too. Both definitely did enough to at least win once each.
@@procrastinator99to win an Emmy? Nah, there's better performances out there. These are definitely nomination worthy but not winnig worthy
Or the Joker in Gotham.
Idk if Ian beating up mickeys dad was bipolar. It was literally something long overdue lol
In fact it wasn’t 🌝
The way he was acting before that.
Crazy how Ian is exactly like Monica and Lip is exactly like Frank
Prob cuz frank isn't Ian's dad
@@thefox2348 i found it so funny when they found ian’s real dad 😂💀
I mean Fiona is just like frank too 😂
@@yesshh2952 she got better
@@milastefanovic4538 she ran away and abandoned Liam. She left Debbie in a similar position that Monica and Frank left her in. She is so much like them. Given I understand leaving a toxic situation is what's best for you but it was really wrong of her to abandon Liam like she did knowing how dysfunctional her family was...
Fiona did the same shit her parents did to her to Liam more than once.
When I first saw Ian’s bipolar I thought it was dramatic, but after seeing someone (my sister’s boyfriend) throw his bipolar meds out the window, talking enthusiastically about all his business ideas, buying things, getting paranoid that the government/FBI was following him, that my family was working for the government agents going after him, run away to California, point a gun at random people, get pulled over for reckless driving in New Mexico, getting arrested for threatening a cop with a firearm, and attempting suicide…I think Ian’s actor did a great job.
Jesus man, hope he got the help he needs.
He grew so tall and handsome. Damn
@Happy Thoughts He is
@Happy Thoughts 😂 i’m dead
2:07 when i first watched this scene that laugh reminded me of the joker and now look at him.
funny thing, Mickey said "You ain't seen nothing yet" exactly like Ian's character in gotham did in the show.
Same here. He reminded me of the joker lol
I will always see him as Jerome
@@SweetSword Ian was the one who said that in the pilot episode when Fiona saw him sitting in the living room trying to throw spitballs into passed out Frank's mouth. I don't recall Mickey ever saying that.
djd723 he did when he had franks other daughter tied up
Cameron is such a talented actor. Ian has become one of my favorite characters
3:57 when u trying 2 be ian but jerome coms out
i laughed harder than i should at this comment
jas lmfaaaoio
Ha ha
The fuck? I love you
Lol
being manic feels like you're out of control. underneath I feel panicky. I feel others being put off by it, so I can just try really hard to shut up.
Yes......
Honestly I love it. But I don’t have it too bad anyway.
For me it makes me do impulse and reckless things, mixing drugs, play with guns, drive at high speeds etc.
I think I have bipolar sometimes I feel the same way
Kye face you will feel better knowing its because if bi polar i remember hating myself for years thinkin im just a weirdo but since i figured its bi polar i somehow feel more normal lol
he plays it so well, that feeling when you are on top of the world and everyone else feels like boring old farts is so relatable and then the crash sleeping for days having people tell you to get up when you are just drained Jesus, he definitely did his research.
Props go to the scenario writers. The actor didn't come up with the text
this show really got me when Ian was diagnosed as Bipolar. I was diagnosed years ago and thanks to this show, i felt like for once it was accurately depicted and didn’t make me feel so bad about myself. i used to be embarrassed, i would isolate because my family would tell me i was “crazy”. This show showed me to accept myself for it and get the help i need. And to all those out there dealing with it as well, you are not crazy, you are not a bother, you are important and loved. getting help can be scary but i swear it’s worth it.
OMG its legit the same for me my family calls me a crackhead crazy Irritable its so dumb im just as likely a person and im trying to be a better person improve myself
I've been researching bipolar disorder for a few months and I started noticing something was different about Ian when I was watching the show on Netflix and I came here to get some more info and this is really heartbreaking. What I adore about this show is that it's realistic to the point and it does not glamorize mental illness. I read somewhere that men start with a manic episode. That might very for some people.
As someone who suffers from bipolar it's heartbreaking to see how accurate he portrays someone suffering from it. Some days I feel like I'm on top of the world and I can do anything, but some times I can lie in bed for weeks and not move. I wish more people could understand what it was like. I feel so alone sometimes.
Mickey is one of my favorite characters of the show, Noel plays him so well, I love the sense that he’s a wise guy, a tough guy but has a heart deep down, he just arcs so well in the outline of the series and of course isn’t able to do this without Ian
4:01 mandy looks absolutely hopeless doesnt even act like a Milckovich anymore
Yeah you’re right 😔
This is apparently what I'm like when I'm manic. I'm recently diagnosed as bipolar.
The Hatter
I am sorry. Mental illness sucks. I hope things go well for you !
+The Hatter having fun yet???
Good luck
I’m really sorry, how are you doing now?
Hope youre doing great right now
The "we know what this is" just makes me cryy
I never really understood the meaning of bipolar until Ian here showed it to me in the best way possible now THATS GOOD acting
Cameron Monaghan has true talent. He put a lump in my throat in the last two minutes. The transition from his happy and excitable attitude to his depressed state reminded me of one of my family members who also suffers from bipolar disorder. Pure and beautiful talent
haha, love how Kevin is all like "OOOMMMM* zen moment at 4:35
xD
Sara N he's like aaaaaaaah, I waited for this to happen FOR SO LONG, now I shall feel the zen of the Gallaghers..., lmao!
"Now I shall feel the zen of the gallaghers" lmfaooo
Ingrid Al is that in a good way or a bad way..., lol (god hope it's in a good way). was just wondering if I made a shit comment #fml
Tayyibah Ayub
I meant it in a good way that was really funny lol
As someone who had untreated bipolar for years this is like watching yourself. Amazing acting
This is why he's the jocker in Gotham
The Jocker?🤔
lol who the hell is the jocker is that a new villain in gotham
@@REDisKING lmao
Jocker?
i suffer from bipolar disorder 1 and watching this is literally like fuck this is how I am when im manic. after hearing the shit I did while manic its awful. then the depression hits like a fucking train
more like a tsunami
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i have bipolar type 2. thats exactly how i`d act during extreme manic episode.
it does get alot better over time and with age if u accept it and open to treatment. it takes a very long time to get meds just right. but it does get alot better with good care and a good support system.
my whole family has it. i got hit with it at the age of 22. i`m 33 now and doing way better. under close care. it took me 8 years to get my meds right. i had seizures from too much serotenine from bad meds. it takes a very long time and close care from doctor`s.
that is if u have a good doctor.
i love that mickey is ruthless but when it comes to ian he’s a bb ;(
Cameron is so talented
this vid really makes me sad for reasons I don't understand
Same here! Seriously I cried the whole 7 minutes of this. So weird.
same i wanna cry i feel so bad for him
seen it irl, can't look at it anymore....
ian is accurate...
I've lived with people with bipolar disorder and it's kind of scary how accurate this is but I will say he has amazing acting ability he plays it so well
I’m so happy that they ended Ian’s character with him understanding his disorder, and finally becoming happy and content with himself. Being bipolar is not easy and sucks everyday. I really love the character development. Hopefully I’m next.
It's scary how accurate he is. You can become an entirely different person then forget almost all about it when you come back
4:36 Kevin trying to stay calm always kills me! 😂
My little sister has bipolar mania with (manic episodes). The way Ian plays this is to a tee how my sister is during a manic phase. The highs are extremely high and the lows are devastating. Great acting. Made me tear up thinking about the time we found my sister walking barefoot in the snow 2 am downtown having sit downs with homeless guys and “tracking a pigeon” that she had a connection with. There’s many more but that 1 stood out.
This is so accurate it actually hurts
Do you know what episode they were at the bar
Seeing Ian go through the same thing I did was hard. no one truly understands how draining having Bipolar is. I have type one and these are the kind of symptoms I experienced. So to relate to him and Monica on the bipolar got me in this show. If any of you are struggling reach out to someone. There is someone who is willing to be there and help. I am glad you are still here and your fighting. This world gets harder and harder everyday. I love you all and hope you all are staying safe🤍
I live with two bipolar people, I've seen them unmedicated and medicated. He portrays it so so well it's almost scary
As a gay male with bipolar disorder at 20 years old this is the first time I’ve ever seen myself portrayed on screen. It was an emotional rollercoaster for me, but brought a lot of healing🧡
5:56 the moment when your like LEAVE ME ALONE, but also at the time like 'dont go'. You want to be left alone, but you dont want to be alone.. its conflicting and I totally feel for him. (My mom has bipolar 1 and I have learned how to care for her during these times. (I've also been effected by deppresion a few time) so the way they portrayed bipolar disorder in this show, hit pretty close to home for me.)
Tip: never call anybody with a mental illness 'crazy'.
Great storyline to a very entertaining series.
My dad was bipolar and this show showed me what it must have been like behind closed doors for him. The fact that him and people with bipolar disorder have to go through this is insane.
I don't struggle from bipolar disorder but, watching Cameron act, its making me be in his shoes.. jumping around giving out drinks, punching the crap out of people then staying in bed... depressed, waiting for death to take me seeing everyone I love or loved walk away like into the sunset and never coming back...
i see the birth of joker here HAHAHAH."i have a ton of energy" i can relate, and it's only cyclothymia and it alr sucks so much. manic state freaks me out cause i find it harder to control my emotions but then depressive state ain't prety either. that aside, cameron is so dreamy i cant
Cameron is A REALLY awesome actor!!!!
Ian is sooooo cute
It was so crazy seeing Ian go from the nice quiet guy and how upbeat and manic he could go when he had episodes
2:18 ME AT SCHOOL. JUST LAUGHING FOR NO REASON
When Ian hits the depressive low and he whispers for his family to go away, that hit hard, because sometimes I get so depressed I can hardly talk as well :((
I was raised with my bipolar mom through my whole life and he reminds me a lot of her, he’s such a great actor
I cried so hard when they found out ian has bipolar😭😭😭😭😭
I’ve been dealing with bipolar disorder for 4 years now, even though mine wasn’t as extreme as Ian’s, this was a pretty accurate portrayal.
The scene of him in the club when we hadn’t seen him for a few episodes scared me, I didn’t think it was bipolar until he had that depressive episode but I thought he was on a lot of drugs or something.
It's insane how accurate this is. The emotional highs and the lows. The mania. All of it. The episodes of mania are even scarier because you have your emotional hi which leaves you feeling amazing and like you're on top of the world and then more severe cases having a psychotic break and In my case just feeling amazing and hyper focusing on like everything but then you start to fall which makes you feel normal and then you fall even more into a dark deep depression which makes it feel like you're suffocating with all the negativity by that I mean like Suicide is always on your mind self harm seems like an option to every minor inconvenience. And you can go months feeling great and then bam you're hit with another bipolar influenced hypo or even just manic episode.
Mental illness, isn't it great?
To me, Ian is the Gallagher sibling I loved the most. He really just wanted to make his own life. Bipolar disorder is so tricky. Until the meds are right it is a nightmare. I was so glad this show really made his mental health as real as it could be and let him have his dignity. They pulled no punches with his story.
This is so accurate it hurts oh my goodness. Cameron is such an amazing actor.
Acting like a person with biopolar sorry if I spelt it wrong anyway acting like a person with biopolar is hard but Cameron did it sooo well he deserves an Oscar
boy do i relate
+Jacie Cotton You do know Ian ain't real and Cam Monaghan won't answer you, right? XD
We Are Number One But Baggy Trousers By Madness m
Normal people expressing I love u: I love u
Shameless: *punches*
TW// diagnosed with BP 1 manic depressive dis.
This is making me cry because the first part made me so thrilled like I felt it all in my body that same rush Ian is feeling, then I started to think to myself.. this is very familiar. I’ve been drinking excessively talking extremely fast trolling over my words, having plans of bleaching my hair getting piercings and tattoos. Lol as I’m writing this out I’m just realizing I’ve been manic this whole past 2-3 weeks. Literally watching the second half of the depression made me cry because my family had to resort to those tactics to me too... I always feel so guilty for seeing me like that but sometimes it’s just so so hard too hard to speak it’s so exhausting and I just can’t move the lack of energy is profound.
The way Fiona comforts him is so awesome. I love her
Cameron Monaghan is an incredible actor 👏
when they showed his manic side it made my heart drop because i understood it and it just broke my heart because this is all very real. I had an incredible week. a fantastic fucking week some time last year and i was so energized i wasn't sleeping very well. and i thought yes, i'm finally getting better. but that wasn't the case. i went a month without leaving my room for anything other than food or using the bathroom the morning after it all happened. i wasn't speaking to anyone and i couldn't be outside. i became so sensitive to light (because i'd be laying in the dark for hours) i had to wear sunglasses indoors. that was just a few months ago. I'm 16 and I was diagnosed not too long ago. I still experience mania and it's pretty bad. but recently i started therapy so this is actually kind of motivating me to get better
As someone with bipolar, it’s scary how accurate this is
"you seem a little caffeinated!.."
"i quit smoking."
honestly the best depiction of bipolar ive ever seen on tv. This is unbelievably accurate.
I hate to see him so sad. Even though he looks happy. You can just look in his eyes.. ugh.
Its called acting
same
it’s so hard not to cry watching this, he does an amazing job in portraying someone that is bipolar
Love his acting during these scenes, amazing acting and actor 😍😍👏👏👏
This show is incredible. The way it reflects the charecters in such a real and raw way is just insane. I love it.
The actor portrays it really well especially with his eyes
I just have monopolar depression (more accurately I have experienced extreme acute depressive phases amidst general disthymia from an anxiety disorder, so a rather different diagnosis), and this still hit me really hard.
3:09 Bruh Ian predicted esports
Fiona loves her siblings so much.
him being so hyper makes me laugh i freaking adore ian
Seeing this actually makes me sad how much I relate to this... I’ve been diagnosed but I’ve been in denial because of the stigma surrounding it but nope this is what I go through regularly
Cameron is by far one of the most underrated actors out there
this makes me sad tho
5:25 reminds me of monica in season 2 after she spent all the Gallaghers squirrel fund money and shes just in bed all day
i was re watching series, and i see that too , i think monica is misunderstood i think she just wanted to cram her high episodes with all her fun and happiness before she has a down episode
do you know which episode this was in not monica’s thing but ian laying in bed
It's hard to find people who are willing to deal with someone with bipolar type 1 or 2. Even though it's a show I'm glad that they showed support from both family and relationships especially between Ian and Mickey
3:57 this is so scary. the way the anger drains out of his face when mickey tells him to look at him. cameron did an amazing job.
1:02 Debbie knows, I can see the years turning
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My sister has Bipolar and this is the best depiction of it. The way they try to help has helped me in someways coping with my sister