Marijuana usage suppresses testosterone levels in men. So, as marijuana becomes more widely accepted and used, male testosterone levels will continue to decrease and along with that many "male" characteristics in our society will fall into disfavor. One positive aspect of the new stoned nation is hair retention in men - ever notice the locks on Willie Nelson?
@@christianh5826 Inflation accounts for some of the price hike. However, truck prices have increased roughly 67% since 2016 and inflation has increased 15.24%. The truck companies are putting more features in their trucks and charging for them. It’s called math.
@@christianh5826 I think it's called capitalism. As long as folks are willing to buy them at that price point, car makers will be happy to take their money. I'll stick with my 2001 Yukon until there is more inventory on the lots and I can let the dealers compete against one another and the car makers offer incentives.
@@ktpinnacle How is that capitalism, when capitalism makes goods and services cheaper via increasing the productivity? It was capitalism that allowed Henry Ford to make vehicles cheaper and available to average people, remember? Good thing you started by saying, "I think..."
Wow, all those bells and whistles on the KR! Watching I kept thinking, "that'll break, that'll break, that'll break". $$$$. I remember test driving a used high end F-150 4 years back. The electrically actuated fold away step bars weren't working, and the power adjustable steering wheel made gear slipping noises when I tried to use it. It's more than a $25k difference between trucks - the repairs are going to be that much more as well.
I want an XLT just for the remote start, because it's not available on the XL, though I'm thinking of getting an STX and installing an aftermarket remote start, but I'd also want leather seats because vynil gets REALLY hot In texas summers and cloth isn't what you want in a mechanic's truck.
I really don't think the electronic items are as prone to failure as people think they will be. I've driven decade+ old American and Japanese cars in desert summer heat for years at a time and everything worked, even if it was electro-mechanical. If a car is even decently taken care of and not just completely beat on, the baubles will continue working. Anything that didn't work was down to it getting bashed or moisture getting into the wrong places. The only exception in my ownership history was - of course - European electronics in a Volkswagen which had a bad airbag sensor ($3-400), a trigger-happy check engine light that you never were sure if it was a false or true positive ($whatever the cost could be), and one other issue I'm forgetting. What I'm more concerned with is my 2017 F350 Lariat having the exact same creaky-squeaky loud door retainers and hinges as the 2007 Ford Explorer EB I had previously. I suspect that both these F150s, regardless of price, will have unbelievably squeaky doors by year 2. Same goes for random exterior trim pieces like Ford's black plastic rain rails that break at fastener points and flop around.
90% of my truck driving is towing and hauling, the STX trim level is my friend. Use the $25-$30K toward my second non truck vehicle. Plus I'd feel bad for beating on a $80K truck.
First thing you get is HALF the working payload, if not worse (subtract passenger weight and camper top, etc,). That tow rating of 12,000 pounds is WORTHLESS as it can't handle the tongue weight. Figure 13% of trailer weight for tongue, so a 10,000 pound trailer gives you 1,300 pound tongue weight. Oops, out of payload! Better. not have anything in the bed, or a passenger, or a pet. Since it is a FIVE passenger truck, it just doesn't work. Bonus points on the XL. for the cloth seats.
I prefer cloth vs leather seats. I also prefer normal stereo vs infotainment screen. Double-din slot is handy for mounting one of my ham radio transceivers in-dash, under the stereo. Certainly don’t need or want brightly lit big screens, since a majority of my driving is at night..
I always get the F150 XLT with 302A package. We don’t like leather seats so it gives us a few more creature comforts without going to leather. Just wish it had auto 4wd.
302A in this generation feels like the sweet spot. I’m still contemplating adding leather seats. While the cloth is surprisingly very nice, leather immediately improves a vehicles desirability to me.
Great video and you guys make a great duo! I currently own a 19 F150 Lariat and after owning an XLT for years I love all the extra features. Whatever you can afford and whatever you need you cant go wrong either way.An F150 is one heck of a versatile vehicle
I just went on Autotrader and found several older King Ranch F-150s 2012-2014 for 22k-25k with a little over 100k miles. Further proof that new trucks (especially luxury models) are a waste of money even in this current market. Let others pay the huge cost and take advantage of their depreciation later.
Not disagreeing but the fully loaded king ranch back then was also only like 50k. Which is still absurd to think they've drop to 50% but it's important to remember it's not the same 77k truck they're talking about.
@@jthomp997 Yeah and that's in this current inflated market too. This 77k truck will be worth a fraction in 10 years simply because it'll be a few generations behind and not the newest and greatest.
I think the XLT power boost is the cheapest model you can get the LED headlights and that honestly is the only other option I would want over what Andre has with his XL grade truck
What you forgot to mention is the XLT and up models have laminated front windows too. I got a couple of work truck spec and a fully loaded one, and let me tell you the road noise in the fully loaded one is like a Range Rover, and the work truck spec transfers a bunch of road noise. Now I'm not 100% sure on this, but I believe the fully loaded/luxury models have a hydraulic dampener at the body mounts too. I know the Tundra has it in their higher end packages, but comparing the work truck and fully loaded F150 is night and day in terms of quiet and comfort. My 21 PB Limited registers 58-62 db at 70 w/o lumber rack, 64-65db with a lumber rack. My 16 work trucks registers 70-75db at 70.
Wish Ford would put '78 Lincoln MK5 seats in the high trim F150. The current seats are NOT luxurious seats. I have F150 Platinum and I wish I had 1978 seats.
Have a ‘19 KR Ultimate 350 DRW we use to tow the fifth wheel. On those long stretches the massaging seats are amazing. The vent/heat seats are amazing too. I’ll never be able to go back now. Also prefer the KR Ultimate over platinum as the interior is way better looking.
You guys missed one of the most functional towing features. The smart Navigation you put in your trailers length,width, height and weight and it only directs you on routes that your trailer can go very helpful for hauling travel trailers
I agree with Andre 100% that the preferred gear shift selector for an automatic is on the column. It just makes sense. Some of us are old enough to recall the movement from the floor to the column. Also, cloth is much more comfortable than leather.
You have to factor in the upgrade to the King Ranch model, then all the options on it. Dual Panel moonroof, 4X4, Max Towing package, fully reclining seats, etc... I purchased a 2021 King Ranch with the 3.5L Twin Turbo, FX4 and chrome package, stickered at $74,900. Got great discounts and a dealer discount too. Paid $68K.
@@paulhunter9613 Nope, tax was $1300 in my state. If you can't afford it, don't buy it!!! All I'm saying. I could afford it and bought it...what I wanted.
Wow, that King Ranch is really nice. I like that Western style more than I do the Platinum's style. Still, the price is just absurd. No way would I ever spend that much on a truck.
If you plan on towing anything with significant tongue weight like a camper or plan on getting a heavy topper, winch bumper, etc., the base/lower trims make a lot more sense. Having an extra 400 lbs. of payload, even if this particular XL's towing capacity is slightly lower than the King Ranch, gives you a lot more usable trailer tongue weight headroom. Once you step up to a 3/4 ton, this becomes less of an issue, but in a 1/2 ton, a 400 lbs. difference is huge.
I love seeing all the coments saying these trucks are way too much money. It's not too much money for the people that buy them. Do you people look at a $300k Ferrari and think "I would nver pay that much?" That car's not for you.
The King ranch might be able to tow more but that payload is going to be a limiting factor if you want to carry anything in your bed while towing heavy, seems pointless to rate it higher when it probably won't actually be able to tow that much with passengers
People that buy these trucks usually get a new one every few years, they don’t give a crap what happens to that truck when it’s 10 years old and stuff is breaking left and right
Just curious, those self /continuously adjusting shocks, do you have to replace them every couple years or do they last for the lifetime of the truck? And how much do they cost to replace?
Look at all that crap that will go wrong. Have fun dealing with Ford dealership horrendous service dept, and ridiculously frustrating customer service !!! 😆
15:33 not sure that the Red Zone is the safety zone. My money is on the green: The red zone means your hitch weight is too low. Under 10 percent is no bueno. 10+ up to 15% brings you in the Green. It should not be hard to remember: Green means go. Red means stop ;-)
Xlt 302a and add Katzkins is the best medium. That’s what I did on my 2017. Of course these prices and market today is bonkers. I’m holding to mine for a long time.
This is very illustrative of how manufacturers make a killing off of higher end pickups... there’s no way that that King Raunch costs Ford twenty plus thousand dollars more to manufacture than the XL version, which is very similar except for the goodies. Fat options are where the dollars are at. If you can put up with “plebeian” cloth seats and less creature comforts, you get all of the capability for far less.
400lbs is a decent difference, but I think the smaller and lighter wheels on the xlt truck make a big difference too, takes a good amount of torque to get rolling, and smaller diameter wheels work like higher gearing to help low speed acceleration.
In todays market it would be worth about 50k after 4 years. In a normal market it would of been worth 35-40k. These prices on trucks are out of control and seem to be getting worse and worse every year.
@@jthomp997 I did say you can't find a decent house for that price. Which pretty much means you can't find anything at that price range at all worth living in. You might be able to find a nice shed though.
I would have loved to hear more about the technology like lane keep assist/adaptive cruise control and blind spot warning. I just purchased a new Ram Laramie and had no idea that blind spot warning was not standard. Awesome video guys as always.
I Love the adaptive cruise control. Lane keep assist I usually keep it turned off all it did on my Super Duty is vibrate the wheel, my Expedition it will steer you back into your lane. Adaptive cruise keeps the spacing from the vehicles in front of your, and if it stop and go it will bring you to a stop in traffic and re accelerate when the traffic starts moving.
If you keep a truck 15 to 20 years like I do that extra 26k will only get you about $1000 more on trade in totally not worth it to me but to each there own in the end you have to be happy with what you buy
Only reason I’d like a bigger screen in my XL is for the backup camera, specifically hitching up to my trailer. I can get the job done, but would be nice having a bit more resolution to see, especially in low light or super bright washed out lighting situations.
You want heated mirrors and it jacks up the price by 6000$. Something that cost less than than 100$ to make. Those packages are so stupid. However those xl are nice nowadays.
After a lot of comparing of Lariats and XLT and STX. I bought an XLT 302A. Obviously if I didn’t care about money at all I would go for a king ranch or Lariat, but all things considered a lot of the features on the king ranch just don’t feel essential.
Again Ford must think we’re all stupid. What good is having 12,000 pounds of towing capacity when 10% of your tongue weight equals 1200 pounds. That means only a 150 pound person can drive the vehicle with nothing else in it, If your payload is 1300 pounds. What a joke!
That insulation under the hood is the first thing that comes off it just collects dust. I wish you could but the options individually not in all the stupid packages because truck dont need carpet
I remember in high school Driving my beat up Nova through the car lot....thinking I would never be able to afford a $5,400 79 Firebird Formula...Brand New.... 100k for a pick up....they used to be cheaper than cars
I’m leaning more towards the XL work truck than the King Ranch. All those fancy baubels/farkles will eventually break and cost $$$ to get them working again. I mean really - who needs an auto lower/raise tailgate on a truck that you’re actually going to use?
You absolutely lost me at $77,000. I would Absolutely never pay that much for a truck, let alone a half ton. These prices are absolutely ridiculously high. Then, even though they're hybrids, gas prices are ridiculously high right now, so I wonder with the combined prices of the trucks and the gas prices, when are people going to stop paying these goofy amounts for trucks and suvs.
Absolutely mind boggling how expensive trucks are today 🤦🏻♂️ hell a Tacoma is only 5k cheaper than a trail boss and 77k for a truck just again mind boggling
$97,600 for a tremor here in Canada. For $30,000- $40,000 above the xlt model I could do a lot of mod’s to the truck. It’s absolutely crazy the cost of new trucks.
I've never had the slightest desire for heated seats, steering wheels or sheet metal, or tires, or door handles... How about a heated touch screen? I never wanted a touch screen at all. I LIKE having a key. I don't need theater lighting. I don't want a sun roof.
Does make me wonder why you don't find heated cloth seats. I feel like the only reason heated and cooled seats are included in a leather trim of any vehicle is because you burn your junk in the summer and freeze it during the winter.
man, now I'm kind of regretting putting the order in for the Mustang Mach E... my old work truck isn't nearly this fancy or have this kind of towing capacity as well as gas mileage.
Crazy that people spend that kind of money on a truck. Ford making those fully loaded trucks does not surprise me because it is all profit for them but what does surprise me is that people actually buy them.
The more i look at these trucks, the more i feel like the best thing to do, is get a base model, as barebone as you can, while having the powertrain you want, and juat add the rest later by yourself. I've seen videos of poeple swapping dashes and what not from wrecked trucks into theirs. Lots of stuff you can find at junkyards. Some things wont work, because a lot is controlled by computers and stuff, but many things are just relays and servos that just require power.
That’ll end up costing a lot more money in the long run. Used, people will not value the Frankenstein truck as much as they would say a higher trim level truck that came from the factory with those features.
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Marijuana usage suppresses testosterone levels in men. So, as marijuana becomes more widely accepted and used, male testosterone levels will continue to decrease and along with that many "male" characteristics in our society will fall into disfavor. One positive aspect of the new stoned nation is hair retention in men - ever notice the locks on Willie Nelson?
Do I wish my XL had more? Yes. Does the XL do everything I need and more? Also yes.
Exactly
Also happy with my xl 3.5 max tow 4x4 for 41k.
In 2014 the F150 King Ranch fully loaded and fully optioned was $56,000. This is beyond ridiculous.
I remember our family’s Yukon XL Denali fully loaded was like $45k? back in 2001 or so.
Yea well it’s called inflation…
@@christianh5826 Inflation accounts for some of the price hike. However, truck prices have increased roughly 67% since 2016 and inflation has increased 15.24%. The truck companies are putting more features in their trucks and charging for them. It’s called math.
@@christianh5826 I think it's called capitalism. As long as folks are willing to buy them at that price point, car makers will be happy to take their money. I'll stick with my 2001 Yukon until there is more inventory on the lots and I can let the dealers compete against one another and the car makers offer incentives.
@@ktpinnacle How is that capitalism, when capitalism makes goods and services cheaper via increasing the productivity? It was capitalism that allowed Henry Ford to make vehicles cheaper and available to average people, remember? Good thing you started by saying, "I think..."
No doubt that, for the money, the XL would be my choice over and over. I bought the 2019 XLT 250.
Exactly what we needed.
That tail light payload indicator is actually pretty cool. Never knew that was a thing.
Haha. Yeah, I think we all knew about the scale but never knew about the taillights. Very cool, indeed!
The fact that an XL is $50,000+ is proof that trucks cost WAY to much
Agree. Inflation has run wild, but not so wild that the XL has gone from $30k to $50k in less than 5 years. Smh Ford.
You can get an xl for cheaper. This has a hybrid engine and other features. It still is crazy, but 50k isn’t the base price.
@@soliddrake11 even with that said, there should be way more for 50k
@@Please_Enter_A_Name7078 Like a Lariat with 2.7 Ecoboost? Just depends on what you're preferences or needs are.
Wow, all those bells and whistles on the KR! Watching I kept thinking, "that'll break, that'll break, that'll break". $$$$. I remember test driving a used high end F-150 4 years back. The electrically actuated fold away step bars weren't working, and the power adjustable steering wheel made gear slipping noises when I tried to use it. It's more than a $25k difference between trucks - the repairs are going to be that much more as well.
I want an XLT just for the remote start, because it's not available on the XL, though I'm thinking of getting an STX and installing an aftermarket remote start, but I'd also want leather seats because vynil gets REALLY hot In texas summers and cloth isn't what you want in a mechanic's truck.
I really don't think the electronic items are as prone to failure as people think they will be. I've driven decade+ old American and Japanese cars in desert summer heat for years at a time and everything worked, even if it was electro-mechanical. If a car is even decently taken care of and not just completely beat on, the baubles will continue working. Anything that didn't work was down to it getting bashed or moisture getting into the wrong places. The only exception in my ownership history was - of course - European electronics in a Volkswagen which had a bad airbag sensor ($3-400), a trigger-happy check engine light that you never were sure if it was a false or true positive ($whatever the cost could be), and one other issue I'm forgetting.
What I'm more concerned with is my 2017 F350 Lariat having the exact same creaky-squeaky loud door retainers and hinges as the 2007 Ford Explorer EB I had previously. I suspect that both these F150s, regardless of price, will have unbelievably squeaky doors by year 2. Same goes for random exterior trim pieces like Ford's black plastic rain rails that break at fastener points and flop around.
That's why I love my lariat package. It's a nice balance between both worlds
@@Prestiged_peck XLT w/ 302A package and leather installation ($1500) at the dealership. Best value from what I have seen.
@@kyleweeks2941 traded my 16 XLT 301 for a 20 Lariat 502a....absolutely perfect!
90% of my truck driving is towing and hauling, the STX trim level is my friend. Use the $25-$30K toward my second non truck vehicle. Plus I'd feel bad for beating on a $80K truck.
Buy an optioned xl with vinyl seats for what I need and get some nice toys or pay half on a mini excavator or skid steer for that insane price
First thing you get is HALF the working payload, if not worse (subtract passenger weight and camper top, etc,). That tow rating of 12,000 pounds is WORTHLESS as it can't handle the tongue weight. Figure 13% of trailer weight for tongue, so a 10,000 pound trailer gives you 1,300 pound tongue weight. Oops, out of payload! Better. not have anything in the bed, or a passenger, or a pet. Since it is a FIVE passenger truck, it just doesn't work. Bonus points on the XL. for the cloth seats.
I prefer cloth vs leather seats. I also prefer normal stereo vs infotainment screen. Double-din slot is handy for mounting one of my ham radio transceivers in-dash, under the stereo. Certainly don’t need or want brightly lit big screens, since a majority of my driving is at night..
Well they do have something called *adjustable brightness*
They are both infotainment screens, no more old school radios in 21s
@@jthomp997 Still can be very bright
I always get the F150 XLT with 302A package. We don’t like leather seats so it gives us a few more creature comforts without going to leather. Just wish it had auto 4wd.
That's the only thing I wish my 302a had was the auto 4wd. Other than that it's all ill ever need
302A in this generation feels like the sweet spot. I’m still contemplating adding leather seats. While the cloth is surprisingly very nice, leather immediately improves a vehicles desirability to me.
Agreed. Ford did a really nice job with this new generation. I have the "sport" package and am a fan of the cloth.
Wish the King Ranch had a column shifter.
Great video and you guys make a great duo! I currently own a 19 F150 Lariat and after owning an XLT for years I love all the extra features. Whatever you can afford and whatever you need you cant go wrong either way.An F150 is one heck of a versatile vehicle
The cheaper truck way to go, less things to break in the long run.
Hear hear. Just picked up a simple, low mileage 2014 F-150 XL with 5.0 V8. Simple is best!
(Although the 2021 XL has a LOT of electronics!)
@Tyler Holt same thing when I test drove a Tacoma and a new ranger. That ecoboost is amazing. I went home with the ranger
Andre actually purchased his Ford while Nathan's just hyping a loaner vehicle.
Just part of the job, they both work for the same place lol
Not sure what your point is. I'd say the King Ranch is probably the higher sale volume truck especially with that powertrain
Your point?
I just went on Autotrader and found several older King Ranch F-150s 2012-2014 for 22k-25k with a little over 100k miles.
Further proof that new trucks (especially luxury models) are a waste of money even in this current market. Let others pay the huge cost and take advantage of their depreciation later.
Not disagreeing but the fully loaded king ranch back then was also only like 50k. Which is still absurd to think they've drop to 50% but it's important to remember it's not the same 77k truck they're talking about.
@J L I learned something new, Thanks!
@@jthomp997 Yeah and that's in this current inflated market too. This 77k truck will be worth a fraction in 10 years simply because it'll be a few generations behind and not the newest and greatest.
@J L in 2022 to get genuine leather you need the 86k limited trim. Lmao 86k for an f150
I think the XLT power boost is the cheapest model you can get the LED headlights and that honestly is the only other option I would want over what Andre has with his XL grade truck
Yeah but they're not the projector headlights. To get those you need at least the highest package on the lariat.
Are those LED modules? Or are they bulbs that you can replace when they go out? I think the modules that come from Ford are very very expensive
What you forgot to mention is the XLT and up models have laminated front windows too. I got a couple of work truck spec and a fully loaded one, and let me tell you the road noise in the fully loaded one is like a Range Rover, and the work truck spec transfers a bunch of road noise.
Now I'm not 100% sure on this, but I believe the fully loaded/luxury models have a hydraulic dampener at the body mounts too. I know the Tundra has it in their higher end packages, but comparing the work truck and fully loaded F150 is night and day in terms of quiet and comfort. My 21 PB Limited registers 58-62 db at 70 w/o lumber rack, 64-65db with a lumber rack. My 16 work trucks registers 70-75db at 70.
Now compare an XL super Duty gas to the Platinum SD Diesel the difference in payload is shocking.
My xl super duty gas has 3655 lb payload
@@kenj.8897
My 2012 Ford F-250 has 3400 lb payload. He deciding factor between the Ford and Toyota Tundra.
@@kenj.8897 my f 250 Platinum diesel has 1900 lb payload, less that an F150 xl
I wonder when (not if) that popup gear selector breaks how much it's going to cost to repair it? I'd much rather have the column shifter.
$1000 for the part. I've seen them fail
Wish Ford would put '78 Lincoln MK5 seats in the high trim F150. The current seats are NOT luxurious seats. I have F150 Platinum and I wish I had 1978 seats.
Have a ‘19 KR Ultimate 350 DRW we use to tow the fifth wheel. On those long stretches the massaging seats are amazing. The vent/heat seats are amazing too. I’ll never be able to go back now. Also prefer the KR Ultimate over platinum as the interior is way better looking.
Loved it! I pick the work truck! Not a huge fan of hybrid trucks, but the XL was the clear winner.
You guys missed one of the most functional towing features. The smart Navigation you put in your trailers length,width, height and weight and it only directs you on routes that your trailer can go very helpful for hauling travel trailers
I agree with Andre 100% that the preferred gear shift selector for an automatic is on the column. It just makes sense. Some of us are old enough to recall the movement from the floor to the column.
Also, cloth is much more comfortable than leather.
I never saw 26k worth of options.
You have to factor in the upgrade to the King Ranch model, then all the options on it. Dual Panel moonroof, 4X4, Max Towing package, fully reclining seats, etc... I purchased a 2021 King Ranch with the 3.5L Twin Turbo, FX4 and chrome package, stickered at $74,900. Got great discounts and a dealer discount too. Paid $68K.
@@Mustgtcs07 it was sarcasm. None of that is worth the price of another truck
@mustgtc
And then what, another $4-5000 in tax? That’s not for me, enjoy the truck
@@paulhunter9613 Nope, tax was $1300 in my state. If you can't afford it, don't buy it!!! All I'm saying. I could afford it and bought it...what I wanted.
@@Jay-bw3fl It is for a lot of us. Just saying.
Wow, that King Ranch is really nice. I like that Western style more than I do the Platinum's style. Still, the price is just absurd. No way would I ever spend that much on a truck.
If you plan on towing anything with significant tongue weight like a camper or plan on getting a heavy topper, winch bumper, etc., the base/lower trims make a lot more sense. Having an extra 400 lbs. of payload, even if this particular XL's towing capacity is slightly lower than the King Ranch, gives you a lot more usable trailer tongue weight headroom. Once you step up to a 3/4 ton, this becomes less of an issue, but in a 1/2 ton, a 400 lbs. difference is huge.
@ed Rico
Or get the Hd payload pkg for the f150
Love that there’s no big dumb moonroof
Give me the XL and a Maverick.
I love seeing all the coments saying these trucks are way too much money. It's not too much money for the people that buy them. Do you people look at a $300k Ferrari and think "I would nver pay that much?" That car's not for you.
Ones made for the masses the other is a very small niche car. Apples and oranges.
@@fritty9927 It comes across like people think the higher end trucks should be the price of a XL or XLT.
I'll take a lightly-optioned 4WD XL. All day. Every day.
Love these budget friendly reviews!
I love how $50k is considered budget
@@protectme4278 it's an XL. That $50k is deductible.
@@clearcut6818 that's facts
That antimatter blue is phenomenal.
For longevity reasons, the XL is the smartest choice. Everything electronic will fail at some point.
And y'all were crying about the new tundra pricing.
The King ranch might be able to tow more but that payload is going to be a limiting factor if you want to carry anything in your bed while towing heavy, seems pointless to rate it higher when it probably won't actually be able to tow that much with passengers
The folding shifter is the dumbest thing ever. Wait till the mechanism gives out
People that buy these trucks usually get a new one every few years, they don’t give a crap what happens to that truck when it’s 10 years old and stuff is breaking left and right
Part alone is $1100
Luxury is nice! But I'm with Andre on the xl! It would meet my needs better.
Just curious, those self /continuously adjusting shocks, do you have to replace them every couple years or do they last for the lifetime of the truck? And how much do they cost to replace?
$$$ wears faster
Power windows, doors, AC and cruise. That's what I care about.
No way will I consider an F-150 until fully-reclining third-row seats and flip-down breastfeeding stations are standard.
Look at all that crap that will go wrong. Have fun dealing with Ford dealership horrendous service dept, and ridiculously frustrating customer service !!! 😆
Way to throw shade on Roman boys. Love it. You two make a great team.
I've had the basic truck for years. To step up to a different level of trim is nice. Not that all of the things are used as much.
15:33 not sure that the Red Zone is the safety zone. My money is on the green: The red zone means your hitch weight is too low. Under 10 percent is no bueno. 10+ up to 15% brings you in the Green. It should not be hard to remember: Green means go. Red means stop ;-)
Exactly right.
You are 100% on the money Andre I hate, hate, hate, consoles they are a complete waste of space and comfort.
Give me an XLT with the old max tow/haul package. To hell with all these digital screens and computers.
That 5.8 0-60 was pretty impressive. It’s still stupid how much trucks cost now!!
Another great show! Great entertainment!
Chevy Tahoe base 4x4 = 54k. Loaded Escalade $119k. The luxury / content upcharge in vehicles is insane now.
Stupid people don't bother to care about price when they only see branding. Just like spending over $1000 on a phone every year
The LED bed lights, hooks could have been optioned the XLT level 302A. Most of what you're paying for is the trim name.
Lot of soccer moms love those high end f150’s. I would rather have old blue !
From my experience, they actually love driving the suv's, not the pick up trucks.
Ford should just charge the extra couple hundred dollars for the cost for the 4A mode. If it even cost that . Nice comparison.
Xlt 302a and add Katzkins is the best medium. That’s what I did on my 2017. Of course these prices and market today is bonkers. I’m holding to mine for a long time.
Pricey. Paid 53k for a 2500HD Z71 LT L8T 6.6L gasser. Way more truck than that base F150. 14450 towing, 3598 payload, 16620 5e or gooseneck.
This is very illustrative of how manufacturers make a killing off of higher end pickups... there’s no way that that King Raunch costs Ford twenty plus thousand dollars more to manufacture than the XL version, which is very similar except for the goodies. Fat options are where the dollars are at. If you can put up with “plebeian” cloth seats and less creature comforts, you get all of the capability for far less.
400lbs is a decent difference, but I think the smaller and lighter wheels on the xlt truck make a big difference too, takes a good amount of torque to get rolling, and smaller diameter wheels work like higher gearing to help low speed acceleration.
It’s tire diameter that affects gearing, not the wheel.
$77,000 for a pickup truck! unbelievable that's more than I paid for the first house I bought. What's it going to be worth in 5 years?
Well you can't find a decent house for that cheap anymore either.
In todays market it would be worth about 50k after 4 years. In a normal market it would of been worth 35-40k. These prices on trucks are out of control and seem to be getting worse and worse every year.
@@pacman1789 not even a decent. Just a liveable house is worth more than 77k
@@jthomp997 I did say you can't find a decent house for that price. Which pretty much means you can't find anything at that price range at all worth living in. You might be able to find a nice shed though.
@@pacman1789 just depends where you live and how big of house you want.
I would have loved to hear more about the technology like lane keep assist/adaptive cruise control and blind spot warning. I just purchased a new Ram Laramie and had no idea that blind spot warning was not standard. Awesome video guys as always.
I Love the adaptive cruise control. Lane keep assist I usually keep it turned off all it did on my Super Duty is vibrate the wheel, my Expedition it will steer you back into your lane. Adaptive cruise keeps the spacing from the vehicles in front of your, and if it stop and go it will bring you to a stop in traffic and re accelerate when the traffic starts moving.
I had blind spot monitoring in my 2021 ranger and it’s my favorite technology I’ve ever had in a truck
If you keep a truck 15 to 20 years like I do that extra 26k will only get you about $1000 more on trade in totally not worth it to me but to each there own in the end you have to be happy with what you buy
Every person that has the smaller screen version always says “I don’t need the bigger screen” but wishes they did. me being every person 😂
Not me
Only reason I’d like a bigger screen in my XL is for the backup camera, specifically hitching up to my trailer. I can get the job done, but would be nice having a bit more resolution to see, especially in low light or super bright washed out lighting situations.
I've never met one person in my life who wanted bigger and more screens in vehicles. Not one.
Ouch!! "MSRP price"?
That's like VIN number.
Or CDL license.
It doesn't work!!
$25K gets you another Ford Focus to park next to your Ford F150.
Or as they said, a maverick
Thanks guys, another great video. Andre would you please list your trucks exact specific options so that I can duplicate it when I purchase mine.
Great video guys! We all like the bells and whistles but do we really need them?
You want heated mirrors and it jacks up the price by 6000$. Something that cost less than than 100$ to make. Those packages are so stupid. However those xl are nice nowadays.
Cool video. As someone who is getting ready to buy an Xl i approve this. The only poweboost i can find is used and 75k.... no thanks.
After a lot of comparing of Lariats and XLT and STX. I bought an XLT 302A.
Obviously if I didn’t care about money at all I would go for a king ranch or Lariat, but all things considered a lot of the features on the king ranch just don’t feel essential.
Again Ford must think we’re all stupid. What good is having 12,000 pounds of towing capacity when 10% of your tongue weight equals 1200 pounds. That means only a 150 pound person can drive the vehicle with nothing else in it, If your payload is 1300 pounds. What a joke!
That insulation under the hood is the first thing that comes off it just collects dust. I wish you could but the options individually not in all the stupid packages because truck dont need carpet
Great job. Miss Roman Rant. Should be a weekly series.
That black and white still at the end is classic. It’s like what you get when you tell two five years olds to smile for a pic. Very nice job boys
im wary of buying anything too fancy because there are more things to break down the road.
I remember in high school Driving my beat up Nova through the car lot....thinking I would never be able to afford a $5,400 79 Firebird Formula...Brand New....
100k for a pick up....they used to be cheaper than cars
Don't need all those creature comforts that come with the Lariat trim and above but I do prefer the XLT over the XL. XLT is the sweet spot for me.
I’m leaning more towards the XL work truck than the King Ranch. All those fancy baubels/farkles will eventually break and cost $$$ to get them working again. I mean really - who needs an auto lower/raise tailgate on a truck that you’re actually going to use?
“If you want a peasant sitting next to you” 😂 . Both of these trucks are beautiful. Great review guys.
You absolutely lost me at $77,000. I would Absolutely never pay that much for a truck, let alone a half ton. These prices are absolutely ridiculously high. Then, even though they're hybrids, gas prices are ridiculously high right now, so I wonder with the combined prices of the trucks and the gas prices, when are people going to stop paying these goofy amounts for trucks and suvs.
i think its easier to justify if you plan to keep it for 8-10 years.
Andre and Nathan make a great team. Nathan is so much fun to watch, and love the Roman jokes lol
You have shown the trim levels over and over. I suggest compare between brands. Show what you get for $50/$60k/$70k for RAM/Ford/GM/Nissan!
77 🤣🤣these truck prices are funny . People are going broke to look good love it
Absolutely mind boggling how expensive trucks are today 🤦🏻♂️ hell a Tacoma is only 5k cheaper than a trail boss and 77k for a truck just again mind boggling
Let’s have a regular bed vs flatbed comparison
$97,600 for a tremor here in Canada. For $30,000- $40,000 above the xlt model I could do a lot of mod’s to the truck. It’s absolutely crazy the cost of new trucks.
I've never had the slightest desire for heated seats, steering wheels or sheet metal, or tires, or door handles... How about a heated touch screen? I never wanted a touch screen at all. I LIKE having a key. I don't need theater lighting. I don't want a sun roof.
Exactly. And I don't know of anyone who wants all that garbage either
I'd pick branches over small ponds. Ill never forget that nose diving moment. 😅
Does make me wonder why you don't find heated cloth seats. I feel like the only reason heated and cooled seats are included in a leather trim of any vehicle is because you burn your junk in the summer and freeze it during the winter.
man, now I'm kind of regretting putting the order in for the Mustang Mach E... my old work truck isn't nearly this fancy or have this kind of towing capacity as well as gas mileage.
Crazy that people spend that kind of money on a truck. Ford making those fully loaded trucks does not surprise me because it is all profit for them but what does surprise me is that people actually buy them.
They build them because people buy them... plain and simple. The high price of luxury trucks is the consumer's fault.
Wow! The weight load measurement system is very impressive! SHOULD help keep many folks out of trouble.
I like the fact that the exhaust is already rusting
Just another option ford has for the fish...
@@rickreese5794 my 1988 has the stock exhaust still granted im in florida but still shows
I noticed that as well ..
The more i look at these trucks, the more i feel like the best thing to do, is get a base model, as barebone as you can, while having the powertrain you want, and juat add the rest later by yourself.
I've seen videos of poeple swapping dashes and what not from wrecked trucks into theirs. Lots of stuff you can find at junkyards. Some things wont work, because a lot is controlled by computers and stuff, but many things are just relays and servos that just require power.
That’ll end up costing a lot more money in the long run. Used, people will not value the Frankenstein truck as much as they would say a higher trim level truck that came from the factory with those features.
The Lariat is fine for me.
You 2 make the best truck/cars review videos. 👏. Keep up the good work guys!
Just pause the vid @21:47 that picture says it all. You guys are Great 😆
That XL is a real man's truck, the King Ranch is for people with low testosterone so it's awesome they put the ad in with it
Even the base model has way more than I need or even want.
The XL costing over $50k is already laughably stupid and way too expensive. I wont even being to comment on the King Ranch.
Agreed. But people buy them, so Ford is just maximizing profits. Blame it on people taking out 7 year loans 😔😅
If you order your truck it'll be cheaper.
Paid $70k out the door tax included for my lariat f350.
Love the Antimatter Blue on the King Ranch, but love the blue on Andre's truck too!